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Please, for the love of God, stop using these words in your diaries.  You're hurting the country.  If your diary is good and interesting, we'll recommend it.  If not, we won't.  Shilling your diary doesn't make any difference.

If you want, use this thread to post other annoying diary, comment or open thread habits.

That's all.  Thank you. Update [2004-11-13 0:20:12 by jsmdlawyer]: OK, real, and scary, update. This diary is now #3 on the recommended diary list. That is highly amusing . . . .

Originally posted to jsmdlawyer on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 08:34 PM PST.

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  •  thank you (n/t) (none)

    All the snark that's fit to...er...pixelate? liberal street fight

    by Joan McCarter on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 08:29:25 PM PST

  •  I came just Soooo close. . . (4.00)
    to recommending this diary.
  •  Can you add "UPDATED!!" to the list? (none)
    And then I'll recommend your updated and still breaking diary.... :)

    "Quit covering up your lies with half-truths and gorilla dust!" - Bill McNeil (Phil as Bill)

    by The Free Man on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 08:33:04 PM PST

  •  No, thank YOU! (none)
    LOL, cool diary.
  •  Can I add two more words? (4.00)
    meme
    framing (or any other derivation of "frame")
    •  Oh, why meme? (none)
      I like meme.  It's fun to say and write!
    •  Meme? (none)
      I thought a meme was a concept that spreads like a disease. Then I joined LiveJournal and over there, a meme seems to be a quiz.. you know, "What kind of X are you?" where you answer some questions and some Javascript classifies you. Besides not being funny any more, and not being documented at LJ, what the heck connection is there between the two meanings of meme?
      •  Genes and memes (none)
        The word 'meme' arose as the social version of 'gene'.  Some evolutionary biologists like to look at people as the vehicles by which genes perpetuate themselves.  Genes that contribute to survival and reproduction are transmitted in larger numbers to the next generation (because that's just what surviving and reproducing gets you).  Genes that inhibit survival and reproduction, on the other hand, don't make it to the next generation and eventually vanish.  

        One could also look at people as vehicles for the propagation of ideas.  Some ideas propagate themselves easily and widely (Saddam was responsible for 9/11) while others don't (pick some random boring technical fact from condensed-matter physics).  While being true can increase the ability of a meme to spread, the above contrast should show that other factors often play an important role.   When understood in this context, the ideas are called 'memes.'  I went through all that evolutionary junk because the term 'memes' was invented by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, a big proponent of the 'selfish gene' theory that I've alluded to in the above paragraph.   He intended 'memes' to be the social analog to how genes worked on his theory.  

        •  Not social. (none)
          While it has social aspects, a meme is simply a concept.

          It usually conotates some form of memetic (as opposed to genetic) replication, usually accomplished through some form of language, but it doesn't even explicitly have to replicate.

          •  how do you pronounce "meme"? (none)
            i've only ever seen it in writing.

            All extremists are irrational and should be exposed

            by SeanF on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 11:02:40 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

          •  Snow Crash (none)
            Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash (the best science fiction book I've read, though I've not read that many science fiction books) has an interesting riff on the meme concept, though I'm not sure he uses the word.

            Some books (like, say, the bible) are kind of like viruses in that they are long strings of information that interact with living beings, who become changed and then create replicas of the long string of information.

            So these books are kind of self-replicating and likey to keep replicating as long as the "symbiote" species lives.

            Even the concepts of mutation and speciation apply, if you consider all the variants on the bible, the koran, the Mormon bible, the King James bible, etc...

            •  If you liked Snow Crash (none)
              read Cryptonomicon -- it's Stephenson's absolute best.  One of the best 2 or 3 books I've read in the past five years -- and I read a lot.

              I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

              by jsmdlawyer on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 05:47:30 AM PST

              [ Parent ]

            •  famous book (none)
              Snow Crash was discussed in a pretty serious way when it came out. I remember being annoyed with all the attention it was getting.
  •  What about the always serious (none)
    ACTION ALERT!! I swear sometimes I think I'm watching Fox News.
  •  You may be on to something. (none)
    I heard that Cheney is ugly.

    Developing...

    •  Ooooh good one (none)
      I completely forgot the "Drudge is just making shit up" abbreviation.  Hate it.

      I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

      by jsmdlawyer on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 08:39:06 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Well, sometimes you just need to (4.00)
    get peoples
     
    ATTENTION!  (w/POLL)

    I talk to God, but the sky is empty - Sylvia Plath ~ I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman - Homer Simpson

    by PBJ Diddy on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 08:39:37 PM PST

  •  And, in my own bit of (none)
    stubborness equal to the Red Staters who resent Hollywood for 'trying to tell them what to do,' someone asking me to recommend their diary makes me less likely to do so.
  •  ALL CAPS... (none)
    also drives me crazy.

    Also, multiple exclamation points just make you look desperate.

    "No shit, Mr. President? How long should we let the inspections drag on, Mr. President? What about those goddamned French, Mr. President?"

    by social democrat on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 08:45:21 PM PST

  •  Fuck (none)
    is definitely over-used. And yes, I know, I just used it. Sorry for the fuck up! Fuck, I just did it again. Damn!

    The Unavoter...manifesto coming soon! Be the first kid on your blog to visit Fahrenheit 11/2.

    by unavoter on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 08:47:42 PM PST

    •  I have to fucking disagree (4.00)
      I fucking believe that the appropriate use of the word "fuck" is very fucking useful in making one's fucking point more fucking clear to our fellow fucking Kossacks.  Fucking got that?

      I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

      by jsmdlawyer on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 08:50:05 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  since you're a fucker who went to a jesuit school. (4.00)
        ...and a lawyer at that, you might appreciate this one.

        A pediatrician, a lawyer and a priest find themselves on the Titanic as it is sinking.

        The pediatrician says "the children!  We have to save the children!"

        The lawyer says "every man for himself!  Fuck the children!"

        The priest says "do we have time?"

        Proud Member, Controversial Daily Kos Extremist Group

        by DC Pol Sci on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 09:16:18 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Now that's funny (none)
          speaking as a non-Catholic graduate of a Jesuit university.  If I do say so myself, that's really fucking funny.

          I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

          by jsmdlawyer on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 09:18:32 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

      •  Best. Use. Ever. (none)
        Here is the best use of the word Fuck ever.

        When your opponent is drowning, throw the son of a bitch an anvil. - James Carville

        by sgilman on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 09:40:36 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Use it often. It adds to your prestige. (none)
          Our most versatile word

          Perhaps one of the most interesting and colourful words in the english language is the word "fuck." It is the one magical word which by just its sound can describe pain, pleasure, hate and love.

          "Fuck" falls into many grammatical categories. It can be used as verb both transitive (John fucked Mary) and intransitive (Mary was fucked by John). It can be an active verb (John really gives a fuck), or a passive verb (Mary really doesn't give a fuck), or a noun (Mary is a fine fuck). It can be used as an adjective (Mary is fucking beautiful). It should be obvious now that there are not many words as versatile as "fuck."

          Besides its sexual connotation, this lovely word can be used to describe many situations:

                  Fraud:           I got fucked by my insurance agent.
                  Dismay:          Oh, fuck it!
                  Problem:         I guess I'm fucked now.
                  Aggression:      Fuck you.
                  Passive:         Fuck me.
                  Confusion:       What the fuck?
                  Difficulty:      I can't understand this fucking business.
                  Despair:         Fucked again.
                  Philosophical:    Who gives a fuck?
                  Religious:       Holy Fuck.
                  Incompetence:    He's all fucked up.
                  Laziness:        He just fucks about.
                  Displeasure:     What the fuck is going on?
                  Rebellion:       Fuck off!
                  Surprise:        Fucking Incredible!

          It can be used in descriptive anatomy - He's a fucking asshole.

          It can be used to tell time - It's five fucking thirty.

          It can be used in business - How did I get this fucking job?

          It can be a prediction - Oh, will I get fucked.

          It can have maternal connotations - as in "Mother Fucker."

          It can be nautical - Fuck the Admiral.

          It can be political - Fuck Reagan.

          It can open the door to wonderful relationships - "let's fuck."

          It can be used to enhance the meaning of a word - as in Beautifuckingful, Terfuckingific or Absofuckinglutely.

          The mind is fairly boggled at the many many creative uses. How could anyone be offended when you say "fuck?" Use it in your daily speech! It adds to your prestige.

          Today tell someone "Fuck You."

          Fuckin' A!

      •  Overuse (none)
        This is like riding the city bus around 3:00 pm, watching out for the back-packs and trying to figure out what teen-agers are saying in between the 'fuck' usage.

        You missed the thing that gets my attention from a diary header:

        The number of comments, or maybe you didn't and that's why you padded this one. :-)

      •  I'll give you fucking appropriate (none)

        So if "liberals" are an "elite", how come we aren't in charge?

        by Pam in MA on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 09:15:47 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Morals and values (none)
      I have no fuckin morals and have been told i am valueless.

      Now with less naivete!

      by lapin on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 10:25:28 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  BEG to disagree (none)
      And here's the last word on the subject:

      The F Word and It's Many Uses

  •  Jonathan, this is (none)
    a much needed laugh break.  Thanks for posting this diary.  I've had MORE than a rotten week, and it's good to vent and have fun.
  •  Now I know how Carville felt... (none)
    "hurting the country" ??  how pompous of you.
  •  I know this one habit is an internet thing... (3.50)
    (or internets)

    ... but I really, really hate it when people don't use apostrophes when they should.

    Let me illustrate.

    I dont know whats right for the country.  Maybe its just what theyre saying over in the red states but its not what I think.

    Worse: no capitalization.

    i dont know whats right for the country.  maybe its just what theyre saying over in the red states but itsn not what i think.
    •  Hm (none)
      The apostrophy thing doessn't bother me at all- I generally type well, but sometimes get going to fast and don't feel like correcting that.  But the ee cummings no capitolization thing drives me BONKERS!  Part of it is that punctuation disappears quite often, and it makes just blocks of text without any breaks.

      Of course, I usually over puncutate using commas and dashes- but thats just me.

    •  Yikes! (none)
      I'm USUALLY guilty of that first one... I shall work on it for you- it's just laziness on my part. (bolding apostrophes is a waste of time, I now see)
      •  well, it depends (none)
        on what you are writing. If you are writing a diary, i think capitalization and punctuation are crucial. otherwise you look like an idiot. If you're just doing a silly post, an informal email, or chatting, who cares? i don't.

        But here's the rub - it's only ok to violate the rules in those informal moments when it's obvious you are flaunting them. unself-aware sloppiness is a definite party foul!

        The only rule I always follow is USE PARAGRAPHS! nothing is more annoying than a great big blob of run-on text. I never read those.

        All extremists are irrational and should be exposed

        by SeanF on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 11:14:18 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  I Still Feel (none)
          that my ONLY serious flaw lies in ignoring the apostrophes. Certainly, there are many in the world who would likely ADD to this list of my shortcomings, but at least I can name more than the Preznit can!
    •  My Typing is bad (none)
      and then there's their they're's
    •  OK, who messed with PPage's mojo? (none)
      Not that she needs any help from me, but she is one of the best posters on dKos.  Do not mess with her.  Them's fightin' words.

      I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

      by jsmdlawyer on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 10:12:51 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  im sorry (none)
      it wont happen again

      Now with less naivete!

      by lapin on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 10:21:47 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  And remember this... (none)
      ...paragraphs breaks are your friends.

      Grafs stretching a couple hundred words or so make my eyes glaze over--glaze over more, some would argue.

      I ain't got no damn job. Need a writer/editor/Web guy? robert.hough@gmail.com. Have brain, will travel.

      by rghojai on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 10:52:09 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  or use apostrophe's where they shouldn't n/t (none)
    •  I don't like (none)
      people who write long paragraphs withouth proper spacing and punctuation. I mean it drives me crazy.people who write long paragraphs withouth proper spacing and punctuation. I mean it drives me crazy.people who write long paragraphs withouth proper spacing and punctuation. I mean it drives me crazy.people who write long paragraphs withouth proper spacing and punctuation. I mean it drives me crazy.people who write long paragraphs withouth proper spacing and punctuation. I mean it drives me crazy.

      I'm a member of a minority group: the reality-based community.

      by Unstable Isotope on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 06:21:06 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  The gold standard of apostrophe usage (none)
      is explained here

      So if "liberals" are an "elite", how come we aren't in charge?

      by Pam in MA on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 09:23:49 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  tee-hee! (none)
    this reminds me of a bit of an inside joke my friend and i had, a holdover from running around grateful dead show lots.  as i'm sure many of you know, a dead lot is an amazing thing.  you need it?  you can find it.  usually for a price, sometimes for a barter.  wacky fun, those dead lots!

    so, anyhoo...everywhere you turn you hear people hawking whatever's getting them to the next show - beads, tie-dyes, stickers, jewelery, etc. etc. ad infinitum.  the most entertaining was always the food.  you couldn't take a step without hearing "icy cold soda" or "bomb vegan gooblissballs" or "dank veggie <fill in the blank>."  and, of course, everything was "kind."  

    and so forever after, my friend and i used "icy cold kind veggie" as a descriptor for everything, especially when we were on the lot.  "who wants my icy cold kind veggie extra ticket?!"  "icy cold kind veggie hair wraps!!!"  

    three cheers for the easily amused!

    and um, just to stay on topic, how about a script that makes it impossible to do titles in all caps?

  •  Alternatives (4.00)
    Fire in the newsroom! Details at 11. (Actually seen on WCAU, Philadelphia in the seventies during a newsbreak.)
    Yo, this is the Bomb!
    Advocate this journal! (For the snobs)
    9 out of 10 Kossacks voted to bump this up!
    RAPTURE to those who recommend!
    BREAKING! Okay, Okay, slightly cracked, but news anyway!
    MUY CALIENTE!
    I didn't Break it, but I need some love/mojo today, okay?
    SHAMELESS WHORING!
    world ending soon said ee cummings
  •  I've gone on a couple rants about this (none)
    But you succintly stated what I was long winded about.  Good job.

    "We will fight them, sir, until hell freezes over. And then, sir, we will fight them on the ice."

    by Raybin on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 09:25:11 PM PST

  •  sadly... (none)
    saying "please recommend" probably actually does help increase the number of people who will at least read the diary...  bleah

    that's the flaw of this community system - it doesn't necessarily reward quality diaries, as much as it rewards the diaries that the community is collectively in the mood to read at that particular moment.

    I think some of the people that kos trusts should count triple when they press the recommend button... and then their friends should count double... get a little trust metric going here.

    New! dKos Local - sign up to meet up with local kossians.

    by tunesmith on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 09:30:43 PM PST

  •  Here's another one (4.00)
    "Ohio"

    I don't want to see that word in a diary again until there is ACTUALLY SOME FUCKING (there's that word again) REAL NEWS TO REPORT.

    I do have some lovely new friends in Columbus, however.  Though my best friend Rebecca is apparently having a bad week.  :-(  Hope all this silliness is helping her cheer up.

    I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

    by jsmdlawyer on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 09:33:53 PM PST

    •  You are a sweetheart. (none)
      On the same day that I get invited to apply for a big ole job in Illinois, the sellers who had resisted coming down in price on the ridiculously overpriced house we'd fallen in love with, called to say they were going to come way down to our offer...

      so on top of the ratfuck election, and feeling numb for a FULL FOUR DAYS, and then entering the anger stage (which I don't have any plans to leave until all the votes are counted), then getting sick from stress, and a hellish week with a 4 year old whose stars don't seem to be aligned right now (must be picking up on his moms' dirge-like conversations over the dinner table)-- I get presented with the following choice:  consider moving to a blue state, or consider moving to our dream house?

      But that's enough about me.  Let's talk about you.  What do YOU think of my #$!*&% Ohio secretary of state?

      --oh no, I said Ohio!

      •  You DID say Ohio (none)
        so I have to buzzer you for that.

        However, as to the SOS of that unmentionable state, I think he is very scared.  Those votes aren't shaping up the way he wants them to, and he's trying to dump them.  Not to mention the 93,000 undervotes that Cobb/Badnarik's recount will ensure get counted.  I think the next week could get very interesting. . . . .

        As to your blue state/dream house dilemma, I told you before:  move to Maryland.  Takoma Park is as lefty as it gets, and you'd be very welcome there (it's about 2 minutes down the road from me).  Lots of universities (Maryland, Georgetown, George Washington, American, Catholic, George Mason, just to name a few for starters, plus a shitload of smaller schools), lots of really nice crunchy, lefty granola people.  Think about it.  Although our housing prices are even more ridiculous than yours.

        I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

        by jsmdlawyer on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 09:51:36 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  I hope you're right (none)
          about the recount.  I want to see it happening.

          There are going to be two forums/fora (don't know which one is the right one in English-- knowing what the correct one is in Latin doesn't help) on voter fraud, run by the Dean people here today and Monday.  We are going to go to one of them.  I'm looking forward to finding out what will be said, what people will announce and comment, what will be organized (if anything).

          As to moving to Maryland-- yes, we'd love to.  But I need a job offer.  Unfortunately, there are not that many jobs in my field.  And I can't just pick up and go somewhere and hope to find a job, because I'm in a pretty specialized field.  

          Hey, I didn't say the "O" word!  You're right, it makes me feel better already not to say it.

          •  Specialized job? (none)
            As specialised as adobe house builder?  I claim status as the ONLY adobe builder on dKos!

            don't always believe what you think

            by claude on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 07:12:48 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  I love adobe houses (none)
              May your business prosper.
            •  Nope, you've got me beat there-- (none)
              and more power to you.  Blessings on your head.  What a wonderful thing to do.  How did you learn to do it?
              •  osmosis (none)
                I've always built things; seems to be family gene. As a counterculture kind of guy, who got to New Mexico in 1971, living in mountain villages built over centuries with mud, rocks and logs, it was inevitable that I got into adobe construction.  I just started and learned from trial and error and observation; do that for thirty years and you get pretty good at it.  Fortunately, Santa Fe attracts the kind of money that can support these efforts nowadays.  

                Once you build with adobe, nothing else seems quite real.  Adobe is the universal building material: something like two thirds of humans live in some sort of mud houses.  It's 5000 year old tech and we in northern New Mexico have pretty much perfected it's integration with modern materials and mechanical systems. In this market, adobe is seen as THE material of choice for the finest homes and yet it is still practised on a vernacular level daily by local people building or adding on to their own homes.

                I could go on at great length...

                don't always believe what you think

                by claude on Sun Nov 14, 2004 at 07:25:45 AM PST

                [ Parent ]

          •  I know JS' Right About MD! (none)
            Well, for one reason, because he lives about 4 blocks from me, and he's absolutely right about this little part of MD being pretty progressive.  Its funny that you mention specialized careers, b/c I had to pack up and move here when I left school to find a job in my specialized field.  After having bumped around the Baltimore/Washington corridor a couple of times, the DC inner suburbs are quite a comfortable place to settle...and with the Fed Gov't in out backyard, there is quite a market for work that isn't found everywhere in the US, with reasonably stable employment (and hopefully the relocated Montreal Expos) to boot.  Of course, the possibility of a match with your field completely depends on your field.  

            jsmdlawyer....sorry I haven't figured out a way to get and touch and meet for real.  Of course, I went away from dkos for a few days to mourn and heal, and now that I come back, I see you're causing trouble!

      •  Just wait (none)
        Don't be Blue,
        Your in a Blue
        state it's true,
        They'll Show you
        when the count is through
      •  4343 (none)
        dreamhouse.  all the way.  
  •  Had to recommend (none)
    I just love irony.  By the way, I completely agree.
  •  Recommend This Dairy (4.00)
    Maple View Farm outside of Chapel Hill (in the sticks of Orange Co.) has probably the best chocolate milk and homemade ice cream I've ever tasted in my entire life.

    I highly recommend that dairy.

    "If you want to say, 'Hey! Look at me! I wrote a sentence!' take up graffiti."

    by Aragorn for America on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 09:49:47 PM PST

  •  I thought... THIS ONE went too far (none)
    funny.

    I want more subdued headlines myself... to make a susinct well put title is art but just marketing makes it harder to use diaries as news aggregator.

    I think BREAKING:, however, is fine...  for one, people could search on that before posting breaking news.

  •  Shameless, shameless promotion... (none)
    ...seems only fitting here. Thus:

    Greed Kills: A NC Case Study

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/12/233831/06#30

    Thank you.

  •  NEW! IMPROVED! MORE! BIGGER! BETTER! (4.00)
    FASTER! NOW! EXTREME! COOL!

    What a great parody, I love it! When a friend from West Africa first moved to the States to attend grad school it was the same period during which my skepticism about our conditioned-consumer culture ripened to its mature cynicism.  

    His coming from the right ethnic group and qualified by fluency in French along with several important regional dialects, my friend was on-track to leadership when he'd return.  But in those first few months he was so enamored of our commerical culture that I'd plead with him against his aim to import it all back to Abidjan when he would be President!

    In Cote d'Ivoire apparently, state-run broadcast media were not enriched with the creativity required of our own ads to recondition the buying reflex on a turn of the new product cycle.  It became my solemn duty to sift the commercial lexicon in discovery of the stimuli essential to induction of that reflex to consume.  

    My product, the mantra on the subject line of this comment, became acutely necessary one day when I found still-running on his desk, a Walkman that I hoped would be playing King Sunny Ade or some other Afropop anthology.  

    Yikes! Instead, as I ripped the headphones off in horror, I found myself listening to his recording of a typical commercial broadcast stream.

    But my shock was not response to pop tunes, as there were none.  The bomb he'd left me to discover was that he'd stripped the broadcast stream of its entire pop content and left me to 'enjoy' his compilation of the 'best-of' commercial advertizements!!!

    URGENT! MORE BIGGER BETTER FASTER NOW, indeed ;-)!  

    Mission(ary Position) Accomplished!

    by luaptifer on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 11:07:19 PM PST

  •  Can we add Lakoff and Franks? (none)
    Great guys, great books - but one more "LAKOFF GOT IT RIGHT!" type post, and I'm gonna scream.

    And I loved "What's the matter with Kansas.." but I'm gonna stop quoting it 'cause it's way overused.

  •  IT'S THE <LAMEASS ISSUE>, STUPID! (none)
    Lord, I sah-wear, if I ever run into Carville, I'm gonna slap him from here to Sacramento for that gawdawful phrase... and its bastard offspring.

    <sigh>

    Feel better now.

    And please notice I didn't say "Bitch-slap" as my consciousness has been raised and I now know that that is just another misogynistic means of putting down my sisters.  So there.

    Insert trenchant political observation here

    by 40 and Fabulous on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 04:31:13 AM PST

  •  Be sure to link to a URL... (none)
    ...without explaining why.

    Read this now and everything will be clear. (Opens in new window)

    •  How deliciously (none)
      ironic.  I assure you I was just looking to vent and have a little fun.  Accomplished both, and now "irony" is #1.  He he.

      Hmmmm.  Maybe we need a permanent "Humor Open Thread."  A person can only take so much news from the Bush junta before breaking down in tears.

      I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

      by jsmdlawyer on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 05:51:11 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Speaking of Hoyas (none)
    Allen Iverson hit the first game winning shot of his pro career last night.

    He may be a little guy, but that man sure has heart.

    And it sure is fun to watch him play.

  •  another vote for memes being OK (none)
    I first heard of memes in the early 90s when I got into a street corner philosophy argument with a guy half my age--one of those things that only happens in Harvard Square or similar areas where intellectuals with time on their hands hang out people watching.  I think some people in the crowd thought we were performance art or something.  We should have put out a tip jar.

    Anyway, what this kid told me (and I still haven't read the book, and he must be way over 30 now) was that ideas are living things.  As such they have a drive to reproduce themselves.  They feed, they grow, they reproduce, and they will attach themselves to anything and anyone that will help them feed grow and reproduce.  (Faux News, anybody?)  They are not organic material made up of genes, they are thought material made up of memes.  Many memes together make a meta meme, and the very concept of memes is itself a meta meme.

    All of us on the good guys side have an obligation to act as cultural surgeons to kill cancerous memes that are sweeping the country and causing great harm (e.g. "9/11 was caused by Saddam Hussein", "Bush is doing a good job as President", etc.)  Even to repeat them in this context by saying "they are destructive so don't repeat them", repeats them, and so is counter productive.  Just don't repeat them--even as I did here just to make that point!  That-does-not-compute-steam-is-coming-out-of-my-robot-brain-because-of-that-paradox...

    Our side MUST come up with alternative ways of saying things so that we do not EVER use the language of the dark side even to criticize how bad it is.  The only way to kill cancerous memes is to ignore them--don't feed them, don't repeat them, and they die.  Replace all propagandistic language with alternatives that promote and spread truth.

    Others on this thread have said they are tired of Lakoff but I can't stop encouraging people to read Lakoff until the day comes that large numbers of people on our side automatically reject and reframe the language promoted by the Followers of Voldemort.  We must squirt the verbal equivalent of Weed-B-Gon on every toxic turn of phrase the GOP puts out there as soon as it sprouts up, and replace them with words and ideas of our own.  There are still more of us than there are of them, but we are not as organized as they are.  I believe the best thing about this and other Blue communities is the way we can encourage each other in the care and feeding of progressive memes.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.

    by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 06:03:18 AM PST

  •  This is a stupid diary . . . (none)
    I don't understand why people invest so much energy in trying to control what other people post.  

    Don't put Recommend in your title, don't talk about vote fraud without evidence, the Daily Kos isn't a site for Diaries about baseball . . .

    Chill the F-ck out, let people write what they want to write.  If you don't like it when people ask for rec's, the don't read it or post to their diary that you find it obnoxious.  But this snyde superiority is irritating.

    The reality is that newer authors who people don't recognize have no choice but to use those words in their titles.  

    If people would take more time to review the nonrecommended diaries then people would be so desperate to get recommended.  The underlying issue here is that there is so much content on this site a lot of good stuff isn't getting read.

    Do you have suggestions for that issue, or just snyde put downs?

    "Freedom is Everyday Low Prices" Graffiti 2003, Anonymous

    by dbratl on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 07:56:37 AM PST

    •  Then why (4.00)
      Then why are you telling jsdmlawyer what not to write??
    •  Whoah (none)
      major bummer alert.  This diary was a throwaway effort at humor, with a little friendly gibe at those who scream "LOOK!!!!!  MY DIARY IS GREAT!!!!!  OVER HERE!!!!"  If you read the thread, everybody seems to have had a little bit of late Friday/early Saturday fun.

      It was not, I assure you, an effort to get recommendations.  I'm too old and too busy to care whether people think I'm cool.  I love this place a whole lot, and I have written some serious posts too (of course, those tend to get ignored and this one gets noticed -- go figure -- apparently, I'm better at comedy than drama).

      While it's nice, the whole recommended thing was unintentional, and amusing, and ironic.

      Fun, amusing and ironic seem a little beyond you right now.  What's got your panties all up in a bunch?  Chill.

      I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

      by jsmdlawyer on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 08:45:58 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I really need to get more (none)
        up to speed on some of this techie stuff.  How do you do that?  I want to put the punch in the face on some of my e-mails to opposing attorneys . . . .

        While you're at it, can someone tell me how to put a photo (1) in a diary (2) in a comment?  Help!

        I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

        by jsmdlawyer on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 02:29:16 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Including graphics in a post (none)
          I'm pretty much a nitwit when it comes to this stuff, and humbled by the webmeisters who frequent this place, but I'll share what little I know, since no one else has so far.  Well, that and also because I lived in DC through the 80's and came to be a closet Hoya fan during the Ewing and, more importantly, the Sleepy Floyd days, even as I never did figure out what exactly a Hoya is.  Oh, I digress.  Gasp.

          I don't think there is a way to upload the graphic directly to kos -- can you imagine the bandwidth we would waste!!? Instead you simply link to a pre-existing graphic on a different website somewhere.

          E.g., the Alan Iverson pic that someone posted above comes from:

          http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/PXC10411130205.jpeg

          The html code used to make this graphic show up in the comment is:
          ((img src="http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/PXC10411130205.jpeg"))

          I used the wrong "(( ))" brackets in this example; otherwise it would display the image itself there. You would use these: <  and >, of course.

          I can never remember how to do this, since I use it only rarely, so I have to hit view source in my browser and search for the code that inserts the image.  It would be smarter to bookmark a decent html guideline page somewhere, but I'm too lazy.. heh.

          Here's a "barebones" html guide.  Others here no doubt can recommend better.  Or just google html guides and find one you like.

    •  I suggest (none)
      new reading glasses. Reading glasses are the best for reading fine print on a computer screen.
    •  I'll stick with my original comment . . . (none)
      shrug.

      "Freedom is Everyday Low Prices" Graffiti 2003, Anonymous

      by dbratl on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 03:34:32 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  (n/t) belongs in the title, not the comment! (none)
    (n/t)
    •  I only learned how to do that on (none)
      this diary.  I thought I did it right, but apparently not.  BTW, what does it mean?

      I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

      by jsmdlawyer on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 08:59:00 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  no text (none)
        It means there's no text in the comment, that the title says it all.
        Some of the display modes just show the titles of comments (for example, Dynamic Threaded just shows titles of all but top-level comments), so it's nice to know there's no point in opening up the comment.
  •  Good morning. (none)
    If I put the words fraud, Ohio, and recount in addition to breaking and PLEASE RECOMMEND in a diary title, what is the chance it will wind up on the recommended list?

    </sarcasm>

  •  Okay, Okay, OKAY (none)
    This has been on the recommended diary for 24 hours now,  or at least it seems like 17 years.

    The point is made, let's get this off the recommended diary now--because there is a lot of important news coming down the pike--BREAKING--even if we don't use that word for it.

    Un-Recommend.  The point has been made!

    Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

    by Einsteinia on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 10:13:19 AM PST

    •  As the author (none)
      of this tomfoolery, I agree that it jumped the shark about five hours ago.  However, there is no such thing as an unrecommend button (thought it has been suggested).  The recommended status of this diary will have to die the slow, agonizing death of the passage of time.  It did give people a few good laughs, though.

      Developing . . . . .

      I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

      by jsmdlawyer on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 02:41:37 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  You could delete it (none)

        "Freedom is Everyday Low Prices" Graffiti 2003, Anonymous

        by dbratl on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 03:35:56 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  If I delete it (none)
          all the comments go with it.  That's not fair to the people who took the time to comment.  All of whom, but you, found at least some humor in it.

          I find it ironic (that word again!) that you accuse me of "trying to control" what others write, then demand that I take down an entire diary that doesn't please you.  So who's controlling now?

          I never woulda dreamed in a million years I'd see so many motherfuckin people, who feel like me . . . . It's like a fuckin ARMY marchin in back of me

          by jsmdlawyer on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 03:47:28 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Glad I read this (none)
            before I went and did something completely nutty and wrote my first diary!

            (Just kidding..I just found this so funny, I had to say something)

            Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

            by Revel on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 04:23:48 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

          •  I'm not controlling . . . (none)
            just suggesting.  You're the one who said you couldn't do anything about it.

            You don't want to delete it, its entirely up to you.

            "Freedom is Everyday Low Prices" Graffiti 2003, Anonymous

            by dbratl on Sat Nov 13, 2004 at 04:28:07 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

  •  All is well. (none)
    You can relax now.

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