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This diary condenses the huge and detailed timeline laid out in the previous diary "Plame leak timeline II".

It lays the case for the leak of the classified 2002 CIA memo to Gannon.

For all interested, please read the original diary as it contains facts, sources, etc.

Thanks to all for your help compiling this, thanks to Ambassador Wilson for filling in some holes and special thanks to Kiw for all her help tracking down leads.

And of course, SusanG, who started the ball rolling and continues to dig for the larger story.

As the Iraq war raged and as the truth surrounding the forged documents that claimed Saddam attempted to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger emerged, a website and news organization came into being... Talon News (March 29, 2003)... owned by GOPUSA.com. Within days `Jeff Gannon', a man with no journalism experience secured White House briefing room press credentials (April 3, 2003).

As the hunt for the supposed WMDs kept going to no avail, Ambassador Joseph Wilson wrote a NYTimes Op-Ed entitled "What I didn't find in Africa" (July 6, 2003). On July 7, 2003 the White House retracted their Niger claim, which was their sole admission to date that the justification for war was not accurate.

Within a week Robert Novak (July 14, 2003) wrote a column and `outed' Joe Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame as a CIA operative and claimed she was responsible for the decision to send Mr. Wilson to Niger. It was quite clear that Novak was trying to discredit the CIA at the behest of "two senior administration officials" by silencing any critics and making the claim that the CIA sent a diplomat vs. an intelligence operative to verify the yellowcake documents for patronage reasons. Novak's CIA source however would not confirm that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA.

Two Newsday reporters, with CIA contacts, attempt to verify that Ms. Plame was an undercover operative, and they do so. They also interview Mr. Novak and he claims that "I didn't dig it out, it was given to me," he said. "They thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it."

Two days later, JeffGannon.com debuts online (July 24, 2003).

Mr. Wilson was interviewed on a few shows and mentioned that if what Novak alleged was true, then as David Corn in the Nation wrote, a crime might have been committed. For months the news is filled with angry ex-CIA officials and journalists covering the outing of an undercover operative for political reasons by the administration. The CIA files a `crime report' with the Department of Justice and finally calls for an investigation.

The Department of Justice decides an investigation is warranted on September 26, 2003. After that point Mr. Wilson begins to appear in the news regularly and to openly denounce the administration for using his wife and potentially endangering other operatives for political purposes.

On September 28, 2003 a source inside the administration tells the Washington Post that at least 6 other journalists were contacted with the leak and claims: "Clearly, it was meant purely and simply for revenge." He stated that he was sharing the information because the disclosure was "wrong and a huge miscalculation, because they were irrelevant and did nothing to diminish Wilson's credibility."

Things are heating up for Novak and the Bush administration. The meme is not spreading according to plan and there is a criminal investigation beginning. Time to provide cover and quick.

On September 29, 2003 Clifford May in NRO tries to insert the claim that Valerie Plame's name "was common knowledge" and that he did not include it in his article on July 11th because he didn't see how it added value to the story. This is obviously a false claim since it definitely would have made a difference in helping to discredit the CIA and push the partisan and patronage claims. No other reporters step forward to verify they knew Valerie Plame worked for the CIA or had anything to do with sending Mr. Wilson to Niger.

Karl Rove's potential involvement is raised by numerous news sources and Novak on CNN continues to push the partisan politics of Wilson, claiming he was a supporter of Clintons.

The White House press briefing is quite contentious on September 30, 2003 with reporter after reporter hammering away at Scott McClellan about who knew what when and what was being done about the leak. And then Jeff Gannon asks his question:

Q Scott, a quote coming out of this controversy is that the real story is why Ambassador Wilson was chosen for this mission. Has the White House asked the CIA why they've sent somebody who was so vehemently opposed to the administration's position on Iraq?

MR. McCLELLAN: Not that I'm aware of. We made it clear that we weren't aware of his trip before we saw it in the media reports, and that still stands. (bold emphasis in WH press release)

Perfect timing on Jeff's part... push the `real story' of why Wilson was chosen. However, it also shows that Gannon has no inside knowledge of the memo purporting to `prove' why Wilson was chosen.

Joe Wilson on Nightline reveals that a journalist (confirmed later as Chris Matthews) called him and said: `I just got off the phone with Karl Rove. He tells me your wife is fair game.'

On October 1st Novak writes a column and contradicts his earlier statements surrounding Wilson and how he came to leak Plame's name. He continues to push that Wilson was a partisan by tying him to the Clinton administration, while neglecting to re-iterate that he himself wrote Wilson was a hero in the H.W. Bush administration in his July 14th column. He also admits that the CIA official he spoke with asked him not to use Plame's name as it "might cause difficulties".

The pressure continues to mount and more people begin to question Rove's role in the leak, including two of his biographers.

On October 2nd, the White House begins to change its tone and push the idea that nothing illegal occurred because Plame's name was `common knowledge'. And this is where Gannon becomes extremely useful. Novak and NRO are well known "conservative" mouthpieces and therefore their claims to have known all about Plame can be questioned. But if a new, fresh off the boat journalist at an unknown news organization knew about her too... well, then it was common knowledge and therefore no crime was committed by leaking her identity. But it takes a bit of time to get him up to speed on the plan... and boy do they need to do damage control, and soon, because journalists are all over the issue and the public believes a crime has been committed.

As well, on October 2nd, the investigation is extended to the Departments of Defense and State and it is revealed that Rove worked on three of Ashcroft's campaigns in the 1980's and 1990's. Further, Jack Oliver, Ashcroft's former chief of staff is now the deputy finance chairman of President Bush's 2004 reelection campaign.

Other operatives may have been put in harms way with the exposure of Plame's name and the front company she used as cover, as reported on October 4th... and of course Novak's column of October 4th reveals the front companies name to the world, as well as confirms that he knew Plame was working under official cover... he also continues to push the partisan politics aspect of Wilson's appointment by revealing that both Plame & Wilson gave $1000 to Gore's election campaign.

On October 6th, Gannon weighs in again and confirms by his tone that he still doesn't know more than what has been in the press reports, but, he knows enough to push the partisan politics meme with this statement:

It was after his article appeared that columnist Robert Novak revealed his wife's name, calling her a "CIA operative." Novak discussed the possibility that Wilson was selected for the assignment in Africa because of the position and influence of his wife at the CIA.

It is still unknown as to the reason Wilson was sent on the February 2002 mission to Niger, but allowed that it could have been at his wife's suggestion. Some have suggested that his clear partisanship cast doubt on the findings in his report.

Yet, between 15 and 21 days later when Gannon conducts a phone interview with Wilson, Gannon references the 2002 CIA memo definitively.

October 7th is an interesting day for the story when it is revealed that before the internal investigation has even begun the White House has ruled out Karl Rove, vice presidential chief of staff Lewis Libby, and National Security Council senior director Elliott Abrams as possible sources for the news leak. It is also revealed that in December 1975, Novak got a classified leak, that President Ford and Secretary of State Kissinger were ready to make concessions to the Soviet Union to save the SALT II treaty. Donald Rumsfeld, then, as now, the secretary of defense, intervened to block Kissinger. The main leak suspect then was Richard Perle, then an influential aid to Senator Henry Jackson (D-Wash.) and at that time a member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board and a confidant of neoconservatives in the Bush Administration.

The news continues with the information in circulation until October 17th when David S. Cloud from the WSJ mentions the 2002 CIA memo. The first mention other than Novak. Cloud writes:

An internal government memo addresses some of the mysteries at the center of the White House leak investigation and could help investigators in the search for who disclosed the identity of a Central Intelligence Agency operative, according to two people familiar with the memo.

The memo, prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel, details a meeting in early 2002 where CIA officer Valerie Plame and other intelligence officials gathered to brainstorm about how to verify reports that Iraq had sought uranium yellowcake from Niger.

Ms. Plame, a member of the agency's clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested at the meeting that her husband, Africa expert and former U.S. diplomat Joseph Wilson, could be sent to Niger to investigate the reports, according to current and former government officials familiar with the meeting at the CIA's Virginia headquarters. Soon after, midlevel CIA officials decided to send him, say intelligence officials.

Classified memos, like the one describing Ms. Plame's role, have limited circulation and investigators are likely to question all those known to have received it. Intelligence officials haven't denied Ms. Plame was involved in the decision to send Mr. Wilson, but they have said she was not "responsible" for the decision.

Cloud is relying on "two people" who had seen the memo, but presumably not himself. And the intelligence officials he spoke with subsequently did not deny (which also means would not go on the record to confirm) she was involved, but would go on the record to say she was not responsible for the decision.

He then goes on...

According to current and former officials familiar with the memo, it describes interagency discussions of the yellowcake mystery: whether the reports of Iraq's uranium purchases were credible; which agency should pay for any further investigation; and the suggestion that Mr. Wilson could be sent to check out the allegations. Other officials with knowledge of the memo wouldn't say if it mentions Ms. Plame by name as the one who suggested Mr. Wilson, or if her identity is shielded but obvious because of what is known now about the mission. Operations officers like Ms. Plame are sometimes identified only by their first names even in interagency meetings.

I interpret this is as: Cloud was told of the memo by "two people" who had seen it and then tried to get confirmation from sources at the CIA who would not confirm that Plame was even mentioned by name in said memo. This means, the only person to have potentially seen the memo was Novak, and even he doesn't claim he actually saw it, only that "two senior administration officials" told him of its contents.

At some point during the week leading up to October 28th, Gannon interviews Wilson by phone. The contents of that interview are astonishing.

TN: An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?

Gannon also continues to push the partisan politics meme.

TN: You have mentioned that you are not partisan. Doesn't that appear to be the case considering the candidates you've supported?

Wilson: Including Bush. When Ed Gillespie was running around doing his little schpiel, he knew that I contributed to the Bush campaign but decided he would selectively use information on candidates I have supported to bolster a case that simply cannot be made. I contributed to the Bush campaign, the Gore campaign, and I contributed to the campaign of Ed Royce on several occasions. He is a conservative Republican from Orange County, California, and I have contributed to a number of other candidates. I contributed to the Kerry campaign after I made my trip out to Niger -- well after that. Almost a year and a half after that. But I will tell you this: I reserve the right to participate in the political process of my country just like any other citizen.

I was named ambassador to Gabon by George Herbert Walker Bush. One of the highlights of my professional career was serving a charges d'affair in Baghdad in the run up to the gulf war. When I came back to Washington and was introduced to the war cabinet, President Bush introduced me as a true American hero, and I take great pride in that.

TN: Your activities of late have some suggesting that there's certainly a partisan motivation.

....

TN: The so-called neo-cons, who do you think that they are?

As detailed by Cloud above, the CIA (presumably, because he just says "intelligence" officials) would not confirm that Plame suggested this or even that she was identified by name. Neither would Novak's CIA source. So how is Gannon able to make this claim definitively... he may not have seen the memo, but someone definitely told him about it. It is possible that he just decided to use the info from Novak and Cloud to paint Wilson into a corner, but there is no way he would have known that this was indeed accurate and then his "gotcha" moment (i.e. Wilson lied to me) would have been for naught since no one went on the record (other than Novak's "two senior administration officials") to verify the claim. This is also the first time Gannon drops all qualifiers - i.e according to reports, some say, etc.

Except, once Gannon thought the storm had passed, he reveals that he was leaked the memo, or at least told of its contents... (sometime last year in an article on his website "Joe Wilson Lied and Owes George W. Bush and America (and Me) an Apology". There is no date stamp on the article)

A memo written by an INR (Intelligence and Research) analyst who made notes of the meeting at which Wilson was asked to go to Niger sensed that something fishy was going on.  That report made it to the outside world courtesy of some patriotic whistleblower that realized that a bag job was underway.

....

The classified document that slipped out sometime after the meeting put her name before the public, albeit a small group of inside-the-beltway types, but effectively ended the notion that she was still covert.

....

I raised all of these questions with Wilson in October 2003 in an interview for Talon News. Since I was aware of the INR report, I confronted him about it.

What is difficult to understand is the reason that the CIA would want to discredit this report.  The first clue came when the agents from the FBI came to my home in March 2003 to question me in connection to the leak probe.  I was flattered to think that I was important enough to be included among the luminaries like Andrea Mitchell, Tim Russert and Chris Matthews who were also named in a Justice Department subpoena of records from the White House.  But most of the questions were about the INR report.  They wanted to know where I got it and what I knew about it.  Of course, as a journalist there wasn't much I could say without revealing my sources.  I'm sure they were not satisfied, but it made me wonder why they were so interested in a document the CIA said was false.

So how is it that a journalist who only set up shop in March 2003 and received WH press credentials on April 3, 2003 and posts regularly on the FreeRepublic.com bulletin boards, was "in the loop" enough to have knowledge of a classified CIA memo by October 2003, that supposedly only "inside-the-beltway types" knew about and no one at the CIA would confirm? There is only one conclusion. He was planted by, and used to help, the administration.

On November 3rd, Part III of the Wilson/ Gannon interview is posted. And now the agenda is to discredit the CIA and push the story that Plame's name was already known so there was no crime in disclosing it.

TN: Nicholas Kristoff wrote in the New York Times recently that the CIA believes that Aldrich Ames may have betrayed your wife to the Russians prior to his arrest in 1994. That would make her not an undercover operative for the CIA in effect.

Wilson: I don't know where Kristoff got that. I think that there is a fair amount of material in the public record to suggest that there is a lot of concern that Mr. Ames betrayed a number of American operatives during his spying.

TN: Including your wife?

Wilson: I don't know about that. I can't tell you anything about that.

TN: But if that is in fact true, then the leak is not necessarily a leak.

Wilson: Let me put it to you this way, I don't believe that the CIA would refer this to the Justice Department frivolously, if they thought it was a frivolous matter or if it was not a leak that might be a violation of the Intelligence Agents Identification Act.

TN: There are some who are skeptical that the CIA is fully on board with our actions in Iraq.

Wilson: Well, the CIA is not a policy organization, the CIA is paid to provide the best intelligence information it can.

TN: So you don't believe the CIA has an agenda that's different from that of the White House?

Wilson: Well in the particular piece of this that I own, the trip to Niger, the CIA produced my report, but there were two other reports produced that said that "Gee this story of uranium going to Iraq is just bogus." Subsequent to that we now know this particular "16 words" were the subject of a number of telephone conversations and a couple of memoranda that somehow were lost in the system or forgotten about. But the two uncontested facts in this matter are the following: The 16 words in the State of the Union did not rise to inclusion in the State of the Union, that's the White House's statement. Had my report or the other two reports been accepted instead of this information that was based as we know on forgeries and even at the time didn't pass the smell test for an Italian weekly tabloid, then the President would not have found himself in this predicament. That is not a CIA betrayal of the political system, that is if anything a political betrayal of the intelligence assessment process.

And the second uncontested fact is that a national security asset's name was leaked to the American public in what may have been a crime but certainly is considered to be of sufficient concern to the CIA that they referred the matter to the Justice Department. Now in neither of those it seems to me do you have nefarious CIA involvement unless you are prepared to make the argument that the CIA would have "outed" one of its own, which seems to me to be highly, highly unlikely.

Gannon is definitely being the good soldier here. Call into question the patriotism and partisan politics of the CIA and help to build the case that Rummy needs a new spy agency (which he formed at some point in 2003) and keep pushing the case that there was no crime in the leak because Plame's name was common knowledge.

Finally, on December 26th, the leak to Gannon is mentioned in the Washington Post.

Sources said the CIA is angry about the circulation of a still-classified document to conservative news outlets suggesting Plame had a role in arranging her husband's trip to Africa for the CIA. The document, written by a State Department official who works for its Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), describes a meeting at the CIA where the Niger trip by Wilson was discussed, said a senior administration official who has seen it.

CIA officials have challenged the accuracy of the INR document, the official said, because the agency officer identified as talking about Plame's alleged role in arranging Wilson's trip could not have attended the meeting.

"It has been circulated around," one official said. CIA and State Department officials have refused to discuss the document.

On Oct. 28, Talon News, a news company tied to a group called GOP USA, posted on the Internet an interview with Wilson in which the Talon News questioner asks: "An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?"

Interestingly, these reporters weren't leaked the memo either... they just relied on a "senior administration official" who had seen it to provide all the background. And once again, the CIA would not discuss the document.

On December 30th two bombshells are dropped. The first is that AG Ashcroft has recused himself from the investigation and the second is that at some point in 2003 Rove (who historically did not agree to interviews with anyone) sat down for a chat with Bobby Eberle of GOPUSA.com.

Early 2004 the investigations continue and grand jury subpoenas are issued (included to Gannon).

On March 9, 2004 Gannon gets into a heated exchange with another poster on FreeRepublic.com regarding the Grand Jury subpoena... and Gannon sticks to his talking points - Plame wasn't covert.

To: Peach

You are kind. What is interesting about this is that I have become ensnared in this matter because I asked questions of my government.

This may a chilling effect on freedom of the press.

All this commotion, but the central question has yet to be answered: At the time that Robert Novak's column was published, was Valerie Plame a "covert operative"?

The CIA has refused to comment on this very important point.

If she was not, then no crime has been committed and all communications between the administration and reporters is just gossip.  ---Jeff Gannon

....

To: Jeff Gannon

That is simply not true, Jeff.

You are ensnared because you made reference to a government document, which appears to have been a forgery. You need to tell the Grand Jury who made you privy to that document. ---JohnGalt

To: Jeff Gannon

What was the document you referred to in the interview with Wilson? ---JohnGalt

To: JohnGalt

I disagree with your characterization of the document itself, but that aside, I maintain that I am under no obligation whatsoever to reveal my sources. That is a fundamental element of maintaining a free press. ---Jeff Gannon

In that exchange Gannon makes a sloppy mistake. How can you disagree with the characterization of a classified document that you hadn't seen? Looks like he was leaked it after all... or he must really trust his source.

In conclusion:

Jeff Gannon was planted by the administration to disseminate their talking points unfettered by any journalism ethics or investigation shortly after the Iraq war, when the failure to find WMDs was becoming apparent. He became incredibly useful in L'Affaire Plame to continue to push the dual stories that a) Plame's name was already common knowledge and therefore `outing' her was not a crime and b) to continue to help discredit the CIA and Wilson.

Based on the evidence, I believe the 2002 CIA memo was leaked to Gannon when Novak became unusable and when the `mainstream' reporters with CIA contacts were not pushing the WH's preferred story line. They needed cover, and they got it.

And as is evidenced by his remarkable access to Scott McClellan and President Bush in the White House press room, to this day, he was rewarded handsomely...

And it continues as business as usual... until today when he became expendable and `resigned' from Talon News.

Comprehensive timeline: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/5/212837/3714

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:04 PM PST.

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  •  Hopefully this makes sense (4.00)
    and is easier to follow than the huge timeline.

    Again, thanks to everyone for their help putting this together!

    Jaded Reality... I've had enough spin for today thanks...

    by spiderleaf on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 04:08:00 PM PST

    •  Yes, it does. (4.00)
      Thank you for all the work you and all those involved in exposing this subterfuge have put into this.  Can we nominate SusanG for a Pulitzer Prize in investigative journalism?  Certainly no one from the mainstream press deserves it anymore.
      •  NOT ONLY DOES IT MAKE SENSE, (4.00)
        it builds our increasingly massive and irrefutable case that will haunt the Rethuglicans for a long, long time.

        There have always been those who believe that oppressing gays is OK, that oppressing the poor is OK, that oppressing women is OK.

        We will continue to meet them on their ground and, though we won't convince everybody, we certainly can get the facts out, get our pro-tolerance, pro-equity, and anti-discrminatory message out, and let the people decide as they wish which is the more valid, moral, and correct stance.

        But things like Propagannon are a doozy.

        We have a fake news station set up, with a fake reporter who gets premium access...

        while all along the way being involve in some of the shadiest, seediest shit anyone's ever heard of.

        This isn't Jack Ryan shit.

        This is Michael Jackson shit, except it's not a washed-up pop performer, it's a full-fledged darling of the right and friend of the White House.

        And you have succinctly developed the entire story.

        To all the freepers out there: go ahead, you Rethuclican fucktards. Debate us on issues of fair housing and fair wages. Spew your shit and your hate and your immoral banter. But don't pretend for a second that your side didn't fuck up, REAL, REAL, REAL BAD this time.

        We got you fair and square.

      •  Pulitzer? (4.00)
        Maybe, but SusanG and the PropaGannon team isn't done yet.  There's more gold in this stream than just one overrated gigolo.  
      •  Susan Deserves Pulitzer (none)
        Yes she does......and what terrific investigative reportage! It is clear that the GOP plays with a stacked deck, and Rove is the dealer. Gannon bragged on CNN tonite that he has "quite a few job offers", and that he quit his gig because "people" were following him and threatening his "family" [mom and pop]. No mention [of course] from Blitzer about gay websites, or any other hard questions, and Gannon was allowed to invent his credibility. Blitzer did a repellently lame Q&A, and allowed Gannon to snow anyone not aware of real facts.  Expect Gannon to resurface as a "journalist" for some other sludgepub. He should not get away with this.
    •  Very well written, (none)
      cogent and concise!

      Thank you all once again for your amazing work.

    •  amazing (4.00)
      i can't thank you enough, spiderleaf.  for some reason i have been unable to load any of the gannongate threads that have over twenty or so comments.  plus i got the flu and have been under the weather for the past few days.  i'm just now emerging from the fog.  so basically, i've been totally in the dark on this whole thing.

      i would like to personally thank you for taking the time to write up this summary - it's a great help.  seriously - i can't thank you enough.

      now here's my question - this is for everybody:  what assignments are currently open regarding gannongate and the plame leak?  please don't leave me a link to one of the massive threads; i won't be able to load it.  but if there's a dkosopedia entry you could point me to, that would be great.

      "Democrats: Always standing up for what they later realise they should have believed in." -Jon Stewart, the Daily Show

      by anna on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 04:53:24 PM PST

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    •  Looks like Jeff got a little full of himself (4.00)
      Thanks everyone for all the work; a truly heroic bit of collective digging.

      It sounds like Rove created Jeff (now where would he have met this character or gotten in touch with him?  Who was the intermediary?  There is a story here).  But then Jeff started to get a little full of himself, bragging to the frat brothers, puffing himself on various blogs etc.  That let the whole thing unravel with a couple of week's serious digging that the Lazy lapdog Media wouldn't tough for fear of compromising their "access" to the lap.  

      He left too many clues, but I don't think this was by design, rather by Jeff's sloppiness and excessive self-regard.

      If you're going in the wrong direction and you stay the course, where, exactly, do you wind up?

      by Mimikatz on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:18:24 PM PST

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      •  ken mehlman? (4.00)
        maybe they hooked up on hotmilitarystuds...

        (sorry, i couldn't resist)

        "Democrats: Always standing up for what they later realise they should have believed in." -Jon Stewart, the Daily Show

        by anna on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:22:06 PM PST

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        •  I wouldn't be surprised (3.80)
          I always thought that Unca Karl was a bit of a "funny uncle," if you know what I mean...

          Not that there's anything wrong with that (between consenting closeted gay-hating Republican adults.)

          I've driven in the middle of the road, and in the ditch. You meet a lot more interesting people in the ditch- Neil Young

          by ctami on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:48:28 PM PST

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        •  Military Studs? (none)
          Nothing would surprise. AND I would look everywhere and in every Turkish Bath. There are some really romantic threads to be found, I'm sure.
      •  Nah, don't let the thugs off that easy! (4.00)
        This isn't just about Gannon getting careless and full of himself - it's about the puppetmaster(s) being that way. They've gotten accustomed to the SCLM and the general public swallowing whole the surface stories they spin.

        I have not been able to tear myself away from this unraveling in the public eye of what appears to be a repeat of Nixonian hubris! But this time, rather than a couple of dogged reporters with an inside source, we're showing the power of a truly involved citizenry.

        Kudos to every single person who's been involved in this in any way - especially including Joe and Valerie Wilson, who have suffered the most for simply honoring their country and doing their jobs, and SusanG, whose diligence and commitment have set a new standard to which we all can aspire.

      •  He got a little too cute (none)
        with his "Democrats not in touch with reality" question.  He had attracted notice before that with his softballs.

        I'm a member of a minority group: the reality-based community.

        by Unstable Isotope on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:16:55 PM PST

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      •  Someone today found a little link (none)
        between jeff and karl Rove.  It was a the republican Blackman, I believe, who runs the instant 2-day journalism school.  He knew jeff, and He knows karl Rove.  this person earlier linked to a telephone call, I believe.  I did not follow the link but someone mentioned it should be gross posted to a major diary.

        I hope it was.  but is was definitely today that I read it.  Of course, there are tens of diaries about Gannon today, so it might be a bit of a search.

      •  the intermediary (none)
        morton blackwell.  friend of rove's (per the salon article, i believe) and he runs the "journalism" school gannon claims as an alma mater.
      •  Time for Woodward & Bernstein (none)
        Really, if investigative journalism still exists in this country, this is a killer story.  You know this has to go deeper than just "Jeff Gannon."  Where's the next Woodward and Bernstein?

        Obvious sources of information include:


        1. Phone records connecting "Gannon," Bobby Eberle, or GOPUSA with White House personnel.
        2. Credit card receipts for "Gannon" and Eberle, showing trips to Washington around the time "Talon News" was created.
        3. Further ISP, DNS, and traceroute information linking "Gannon," Eberle, Talon News, and GOPUSA with other organizations.
        4. Dun & Bradstreet and Secretary of State filings on all of the above.
        5. Backup and archive copies of the "articles" that disappeared from the Talon News and GOPUSA web sites.

        Someone with subpoena power needs to get hold of these documents and more.  This requires a civil lawsuit or a criminal investigation.  Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation of the Plame outing is an obvious choice, and his office should be made aware of all this information.  But is there another avenue?

        This guy was an obvious plant.  How did he go unnoticed for so long?  Who else in the White House press corps is a plant?

        We need an analysis of the questions asked; who else is a "lifeline" for the Administration?  Let's look at the order of who gets called on.  (Thanks, Holden, for your obsession.)

        Why aren't the responsible journalists in the WH press corps standing up for the integrity of the process?  Why aren't they policing themselves better?  Why aren't they holding the Administration's feet to the fire?  This whole situation makes them look terribly bad.  Their credibility is on the line, and they'd better start to realize that.

      •  Gannongate (none)
        Look at the military blogs, gay blogs, [and comments he received], and there are threads that will tie to his past. Rove dug him up from somewhere. What did he do before GOP found him?  That would be interesting.
    •  Chosen quote (4.00)
       There are some who are skeptical that the CIA is fully on board with our actions in Iraq.

      Not the Admintrations actions, or the actions of the U.S. goverment, but our(s). Next thing you know will be seeing that graphic of the American Eagle tranforming itself into an missile firing F-15A in all the media outlets.

      Note to GWB, numbers don't lie, unless you lie about the numbers.

      by Ralfast on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:28:42 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Nice catch. (4.00)
        This Gannon guy is starting to remind me of that dumb CIA guy, Colonel Flag, on M*A*S*H*.
        •  I admit I watch to much FauxNews (none)
          for a liberal. They do this all the time.

          For example:

          When they refer to American troops, they say "our" troops.

          When they talk about the insurgents, they always call them "terrorist" regardless of who they may actually be.

          When the refer to U.S. in battle, they say that they "are fighting the good fight."

          And so on...

          It like that SNL character, Mr. Subliminal, but nowhere near as funny....

          Note to GWB, numbers don't lie, unless you lie about the numbers.

          by Ralfast on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:09:44 PM PST

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    •  You just forgot one thing: the joke summary (4.00)
      "Journalist"'s cover is "blown" as he's "outed" as a "whoring" for the White House. Congresswoman calls for "probe".

      --- If I were employed, my opinions would be my own and not my employer's.

      by Aexia on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:16:57 PM PST

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    •  YEAH BAYBEE! (none)
      You got some serious mojo.

      :-)

    •  Not only does this make sense ... (4.00)
      ...it's the luminous culmination of an exceptional occurrence, a pack of hard-working blog denizens breaking a fresh, original major story with profound political implications in full public view, exactly the kind of thing we need if we are to save our democracy from some folks who don't give two shits about our civil liberties or whether they kill family members in foreign countries for made-up reasons.

      To everybody, who worked on this, especially SusanG, kudos. To you, spiderleaf, I have to say that it's been a long time since I've seen anything like your analysis put together so clearly and persuasively, with such style. I don't mean on the blogs. I mean, anywhere. Nice job.  

      •  wow (none)
        coming from you Meteor, that just has me blushing... thank you!

        Jaded Reality... I've had enough spin for today thanks...

        by spiderleaf on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:02:15 PM PST

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      •  Mr Blades! (4.00)
        Great to read from you.
        And as usual, I can't find a quibble. As I've said elsewhere, this might be the greatest piece of citizen journalism I have ever seen.
        I say that because it used to be that a 'citizen journalist' would break a story and the 'real journalists' would complete it.

        Spiderleaf and SusanG - and the incredible cooperation of DKos cohorts - broke a complete story. Simply incredible. Thank gawd too, because 'real journalists' seem to be on the verge of extint species status.

    •  spiderleaf.... beautifully written (4.00)
      your analysis adds so much to the narrative. and thanks for your thanks... and email.

      something hit me this time that didn't before: october 03.
      that's when a further leak occurred. cloud at wsj and 'gannon' were told or shown a memo naming plame as an agent. it changes the story from 'common knowledge' [novak] to 'named in a memo' [cloud and gannon]. changing the story that way removes grounds for the crime.

      is that evidence of a conspiracy to cover up the original crime? are federal conspiracy charges possible here? here's the thing that jumped.... because of the circumstances of the second leak would federal conspiracy charges be easier to bring than charges under the Intelligence Identies Act?

      any lawyers out there?

    •  Plame Assignment 8 -- Timeline -- summary (none)
      This is one of the CategoryPlameAssignment diaries, CategoryPlameAssignment8 I think.
    •  Nice work (none)
      By the way, call me a cynic, but it seems like an amazing coinky-dink that a da*ning report from the 9/11 commission would come out the same day Gannon quits.  This will ensure the Gannon story is a one day story...

      Seems like there is a there there if someone is willing to ask the right questions...

    •  Outstanding work, spiderleaf... (none)
      thank you so much for this.  The ultimate recap of everyone's work...and so much information to sift through.  This is the journalism the ME (Media Establishment) has refused to do.

      /sound of thunderous applause in the background

      "Off we go into the Wild New Yonder"

      by NYBri on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 05:24:59 AM PST

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  •  RECOMMEND this diary... (4.00)
    It's a piece of the puzzle starting to fit in. This is the piece that should be looked into greater detail.

    What's madness but nobility of the soul at odds with circumstance?

    by slinkerwink on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 04:22:26 PM PST

  •  Thanks Spiderleaf (4.00)
    What a job!

    This is so absolutely timely to remind everyone why people here started investigatiing Gannon in the first place.

    One quibble about how you worded things.  You wrote: "Yet, between 15 and 21 days later when Wilson conducts a phone interview with Gannon, he references the 2002 CIA memo definitively."

    This is confusing as to whether it is Gannon or Wilson who references the memo.

    May I suggest:
    "Yet, between 15 and 21 days later when Gannon conducts a phone interview with Wilson, Gannon references the 2002 CIA memo definitively."

  •  Excellent analysis... (4.00)
    ...it seems very clear now.

    However, are we any closer to those "senior administrative officials" who so casually and callously threatened our national security out of petty revenge?

    "Our particular principles of religion are a subject of accountability to God alone."--Thomas Jefferson

    by hopesprings on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 04:42:47 PM PST

    •  They told us already (4.00)
      It was the three who they definitively said WEREN'T involved--Rove, libby and Abrams.  Hide them, in plain sight.  Who is going to contradict if they say they weren;t involved?  Up is down.

      Trust no one, at least so one affiliated with the Bush Administration.

      If you're going in the wrong direction and you stay the course, where, exactly, do you wind up?

      by Mimikatz on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:20:42 PM PST

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    •  I'm not (4.00)
      sure it was for petty revenge.  This was a coordinated attack to distract from Bush's 16 words in the SOTU as well as discredit the CIA for being partisan/agenda driven.  Gannon's actions per Bush admin. orders (most likely) helped achieve both of these things.  In addition, it opened the door to allow Rumsfeld et. al. to create a secret military intelligence agency (the SSB) that could act independent of the CIA on his orders to help realize their (PNAC) political agenda which the CIA would not do.  Maybe they didn't plan the Niger yellowcake lie to escalate as much as it did, and maybe some of this was damage control, but I find it hard to believe that they thought they could get away with something so easily proven false.  It smacks of being sloppy and the neo-cons didn't get where they are by being sloppy.  
      •  Good point re: not revenge, (none)
        but I think they are arrogant and uber-confident and (God willing) sometimes that leads to big mistakes...

        "Our particular principles of religion are a subject of accountability to God alone."--Thomas Jefferson

        by hopesprings on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:31:52 PM PST

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      •  Don't forget the Niger docs were forgeries (4.00)
        They may also be hiding an underlying operation. Don't forget that the Niger documents were forgeries leaked by the Italian Intelligence service (we know this from Josh Marshall's scoop that got pre-empted by the TANG memos).

        So they forged documents to get us into war (Niger documents) and then forged documents to cover up for their first forgery.

        •  you said (none)
          So they forged documents to get us into war (Niger documents) and then forged documents to cover up for their first forgery.

          I'm going to have to think on this.  How does this help Italy?  Or did this admin simply pay for services rendered?  Who has moved up (or down) in Italian government since then?

          •  How it helps Italy (4.00)
            I'm not sure (not sure if JMM knows either).

            Most logical suggestion is that Berlusconi and Bush just see eye to eye.

            But it's probably also part of an "alliance" to carry out a plan to dominate oil supplies. Aznar was in, Blair, Berlusconi, Kwasniewski, and, well, us. I've heard, for example, that Aznar was sponsoring the Equatroial Guinea coup. So it could be that these thugs have a plan whereby the US does the heavy lifting in Iraq, while Spain (before Aznar fucked up) and Italy and UK take out smaller countries as they can.

            Although I think Blair has been playing both sides here, and with his efforts to make a deal with Iran he's actually working the other side more actively now.

            One more thing. IIRC, some of Chalabi's fradulent lies went through Italian intelligence. So it might be a good conduit for us. A way to give plausible deniability. And a good proto-fascist media mogul who is willing to have it done for us.

    •  I'm curious (none)
      Who the INR official is. That one seems fairly traceable. It sounds like someone who'd work for John Bolton.
  •  Does the (4.00)
    Eberle/Rove interview exist on-line (or anywhere else, for that matter)?  That looks like must reading, but I don't see it readily available.
  •  Kudos for Spiderleaf! (4.00)
    Very well done & RECOMMENDED!

    What I see as a very important aspect of the story is left out.  Not only is the security of Plame and others she may have associated with compromised.  Ms. Plame was perhaps the only covert operative tracking the ability of certain states in the region to produce WMD.  The network that she put in place took years to build, and will take years to replace.

    Gannon/Guckert, Novak & high ranking WH operatives were involved in treasonous treachery of the highest order.

    peace

    "Happy New Year Let's hope it's a good one Without any fear" -- Lennon, Ono

    by peace voter on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 04:49:50 PM PST

  •  Terrific summary! (none)
    It's a complicated story and you made it clear and easy to follow.  Many thanks again to you and all the others doing this work -- you are simply amazing!
  •  How did you guys catch him? (none)
    What was the first clue?  Who was the first to think "who is this guy"?  Was anyone tipped off?

    Just curious.

    "A little bit of inefficiency is called culture." - Me

    by dbratl on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 04:57:45 PM PST

    •  I think it was Media Matters (4.00)
      discussing how a White House reporter repeated a Rush Limbaugh lie as a quote by Senator Reid. Then Rush went into effusive braggadacio about how he was quoted by a White House reporter, Jeff Gannon.

      To thine own self be true - W.S.

      by Agathena on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:10:41 PM PST

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  •  Olbermann (4.00)
    Just credited DailyKos for helping break the story.

    "All humans are out of their f*cking minds -- every single one of them." -Albert Ellis

    by JSH26 on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:00:23 PM PST

    •  Nice! (none)
      I'm watching Smallville right now; I'll catch the rerun at midnight.

      "You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it." -Malcolm X

      by PsiFighter37 on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:03:14 PM PST

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    •  Everyone catch Olberman TONIGHT... (4.00)
      He did the best SCLM piece I've seen since, well, uh.....You get the picture.

      It started with a video montage of "Gannon's" greatest hits.  One inane ass-kissing clip after another in rapid fire sequence, bludgeoning both "Gannon" and the White House with incontrovertable evidence of a scam.

      Then he brought on a "legit" journalist, Dana Millbrook of WaPo who called it a scandal and part of a pattern of disinformation by this administration.  He directly linked McL saying he knew Gannon was using a fake name.

      Watch it, then write Keith to thank him for paving the way for others to return to reality if they want to.  

    •  MediaMatters and dKos (none)
      singled out on NPR story.  There's also an extended interview with JD on the NPR website.

      I'm a member of a minority group: the reality-based community.

      by Unstable Isotope on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:20:04 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  NPR story link (none)
        Amazing, 22:37 long. Conservative Reporter Resigns Amid Controversy

        Listening to this, I can only think that these people  (Guckert and Eberle) have no respect for the role of a free, open, transparent media in a democracy, they have (to echo Barbara Boxer) no respect for the truth. "Journalism isn't all that rigorous," he tells the NPR interviewer. shit.

        I've got to hit the rundown and find out how it finally played on air, this interviewer let Guckert tell his story/hang himself.

  •  How is the Plame investigation going? (none)
    I just assumed that Fitzgerald shut the whole thing down...anyone know?

    I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

    by Volvo Liberal on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:02:19 PM PST

    •  Investigation (none)
      Last reference I could find was something at the end of November that I gave to Spyder.  Haven't searched since (only a couple days ago).

      Foremost, I'm a Mom. Secondarily, I'm a Geek - have been for almost 25 years.

      by kfred on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:14:33 PM PST

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    •  case update-FWIW (4.00)
      The grand jury's term is for 18 months, which means it will be finished by this June.  The investigation is continuing.
      Reporters Matthew Cooper and Judith Miller were both subpoenaed (sp?) to testify, they've fought it, lost round one and have appealed.  Things are kind of at a standstill until that issue is resolved.
      Keep the faith.
       

      It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

      by TheOtherWashington on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:15:31 PM PST

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      •  What happens (none)
        If the stonewalling and appeals go on beyond the length of the Grand Jury? Does Abu G have an opportunity to not renew the Grand Jury? (If so, we need to start seeding public demand for its renewal NOW.)

        And do you have any idea whether "Gannon" ended up testifying, or is he still appealing?

        •  Appeals process (none)
          As I understand it, appellate judges understand the time limitations in these cases.  The last court date was Dec. 8th, so we should hear a decision soon.  Cooper and Miller may have more appeals available to them yet (I'm not a lawyer, I just follow this case closely) so a final ruling on their testimony may not come for a while.

          Gonzales recused himself from the case. As White House counsel he may have been questioned regarding the leak.  

          I don't know anything about Gannon's status.

          It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

          by TheOtherWashington on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 06:35:34 AM PST

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      •  A question about reporters (none)
        What will the Grand Jury's definition of reporter be? Will Jeff 'Gannon' be considered a reporter? The reporters who looked into giving Jeff a 'hard' pass to WH Briefing did not consider him a  legit reporter. I can't wait to see what the Grand Jury says.
        Has anyone gotten any responses on getting a daily pass to the WH yet? I'm watching CNN this morning, and they are trying to say that it is very difficult to get the pass. I think that we and the terrorists learned how easy it was this week.
  •  I hope you're all watching Keith Olbermann (4.00)
    KEITH IS QUOTING YOU!

    Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

    by SusanHu on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:05:11 PM PST

  •  Great job! (3.57)
    We've won the battle, but lost the framing.

    Anderson Cooper just did a wretched, horrible feature on the controversy, crediting an unnamed "liberal blogger."  But the essence of it was "should a White House reporter be forced out because he's conservative?"  Had I not known the details, I would have come away from the story angry at those hypocritical liberals.

    Rep. Slaughter was interview, but was borderline incoherent, and did nothing to change the framing.

    •  Man . . . (none)
      You would really have to exert some serious effort to frame this story as that one.  Anderson Cooper must have put his thinking cap on.

      "A little bit of inefficiency is called culture." - Me

      by dbratl on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:27:27 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  "thinking" hehe (4.00)
        "Thinking cap," as in: "Hey intern!  Where are those Republican talking points I asked for?"

        Supposedly Kurtz had a similar "did liberal blogs go too far?" take, but I missed it.  Then again, it wouldn't be Howie if the phrase "did [xx] go too far?" wasn't involved.  Tool.

        •  Do they all just (4.00)
          . . . reflexively check in with the White House to see how they are supposed to respond any new story?  Maybe they have a standing conference call ready.

          What's astonishing is that they aren't furious with this guy.  Gannon is essentially the Journalistic equivilent of a union-busting scab. He deligitimizes the industry by creating the appearance that "they all are just partisan hacks".

          So called mainstream journalists like Cooper have a lot to fear if the White House is able to create the impression that "their is no news, only opinions and views".  Their franchise is in jeopardy, they should be reaming this guy with all they've got.

          "A little bit of inefficiency is called culture." - Me

          by dbratl on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:37:32 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  Kurtz (4.00)
          Yes, to paraphrase Kurtz, he said something to the effect that this is just a case of the Dems attacking Gannon and wanting him out of the WH group because he was a conservative, and that wasn't fair because the liberals have plenty of representation there. And that the blogs have taken this way too far because they've gotten way too personal, and it's a scary thing. That's the general gist of it.

          Olbermann's the only one so far to see the reality of the situation and give it proper and thorough coverage, even including the Plame connection.

    •  Too bad. (none)
      That's what happens when the staff writes the letters, but the boss has to be the talking head.
    •  That's the attempt (none)
      The NPR story I heard was the same deal.  It was all about having a "conservative" reporter.  sigh

      Fortunately, I think this story has more legs than that.

      A lot of people don't have much food on their tables, but they got a lot of forks and knives, and they gotta cut something. - Bob Dylan

      by ShadowRunning on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:32:03 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  The Scandal That Keeps On Giving (4.00)
    That was spoken by Keith Olbermann giving lead story coverage to the scandal.

    He has oil. He tried to kill my daddy.

    by kensa on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:05:48 PM PST

  •  Amazingly skillful work, THANK YOU (none)
    I'm going to sit down with a drink and slowly read this epic.

    To thine own self be true - W.S.

    by Agathena on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:06:48 PM PST

  •  NPR on Gannon--no Plame mention (4.00)
    just heard a report on NPR's All Things Considered about the Gannon affair--no mention of the Plame Affair.  some good stuff in an interview with Gluckert/Gannon, but also lots of things along the lines of "but Helen Thomas is liberal!"

    story link:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4492778

  •  Semi-related (4.00)
    Atrios mentions that there's already a new turd in the press pool.  I wonder who this guy might be...

    Also, I sincerely worry about the backlash.  We've become a significant thorn in the side of the Executive branch, which is about the best thing we could have hoped for (after a Kerry victory, obviously).  If they stay true to form the friendly folks at Powerline or LGF will cast around for a scalp of their own, and they have the enthusiastic support of the Executive branch on their side.  

    Take care guys.  And please, no matter what, keep doing what you're doing!  If they react then it means they fear you.  

  •  B E A U T I F U L ! (none)
    Awesome work.

    Someone get this to Senator Boxer ASAP.

    Nail. Those. Motherfcukers.

  •  It's 2005 (4.00)
    and the American Press is still loaded with spooks, the administration is still loaded with Nixon people, and Åmerica is still loaded with fear: so it's the early 1970s?

    Good work with this timeline.

    •  it's psy-ops, i swear! (4.00)
      who among us think this might be part of the bush administration's psy-ops program?  

      see this link in which a retired air force colonel says the us & britain relied on psyops in the runup to the war:

       A new report by a retired Air Force Colonel who teachers at the National War College charges the U.S. and Britain relied on information warfare and psychological operations to inform the public in the lead-up and during the invasion of Iraq.

      While the fictional aspects of the Jessica Lynch story have been widely reported, the new report by Col. Sam Gardiner suggests the Lynch story was one of only 50 stories that appeared in the U.S. media that was either purposely false or misleading.

      Gardiner poses the question: "What was true and who was affected by the non-truth?

      He concludes, "Never before have so many stories been created to sell a war. And they probably didn't need it."

      this stinks to high heaven.  gannon was a plant... it's so painfully obvious.

      "Democrats: Always standing up for what they later realise they should have believed in." -Jon Stewart, the Daily Show

      by anna on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:20:58 PM PST

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      •  Psy-ops ? (none)
        Hmmm, Do you suspose they want the press to cover this as they get tough with Iran ?

        Bush and Rice has made some pretty hardliner statments regarding Iran today.

        •  White House Iraq Group (none)
          Better known as WHIG.  It's psyops to sell war to us.  Here's an excerpt from an 08/10/03 Washington Post article.  I'm sorry for the long cut-n-paste, but I feel this is being overlooked.  The players are even named.  

          Systematic coordination began in August, when Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. formed the White House Iraq Group, or WHIG, to set strategy for each stage of the confrontation with Baghdad. A senior official who participated in its work called it "an internal working group, like many formed for priority issues, to make sure each part of the White House was fulfilling its responsibilities."

          In an interview with the New York Times published Sept. 6, Card did not mention the WHIG but hinted at its mission. "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August," he said.

          The group met weekly in the Situation Room. Among the regular participants were Karl Rove, the president's senior political adviser; communications strategists Karen Hughes, Mary Matalin and James R. Wilkinson; legislative liaison Nicholas E. Calio; and policy advisers led by Rice and her deputy, Stephen J. Hadley, along with I. Lewis Libby, Cheney's chief of staff.

          The first days of September would bring some of the most important decisions of the prewar period: what to demand of the United Nations in the president's Sept. 12 address to the General Assembly, when to take the issue to Congress, and how to frame the conflict with Iraq in the midterm election campaign that began in earnest after Labor Day.

          A "strategic communications" task force under the WHIG began to plan speeches and white papers. There were many themes in the coming weeks, but Iraq's nuclear menace was among the most prominent.


          washingtonpost

          And here's even MORE!

          Karen Hughes and her actions have fallen under the scrutiny of the prosecutor. The Plame grand jury has subpoenaed records created by the White House Iraq Group in July 2003, the same month Plame was outed in the Novak column. Hughes was a member of the White House Iraq Group, an internal body that coordinated strategy for, among other things, selling the war here at home. Other members of the group were Karl Rove, Mary Matalin, James Wilkinson, legislative liaison Nicholas E. Calio and policy advisers including Condoleezza Rice, her deputy, Stephen J. Hadley, and I. Lewis Libby, Dick Cheney's chief of staff.

          A USA Today story from July 2003 also describes how Hughes was among a small group of strategists who devised the strategy to counter Wilson's Niger story. The article says, "The plan: Release all relevant information. Try to shift attention back to Bush's leadership in the war on terrorism. Diminish the significance of that single piece of iffy intelligence by making the case that Saddam was a threat for many other reasons. Put Republican lawmakers and other Bush allies on TV to defend him. Most important: Question the motives of Democrats who supported the war but now are criticizing the president."

          On her media tour, there are many relevant questions Hughes might be asked: Were Plame or Wilson's names ever mentioned at the meetings of the White House Iraq Group? By whom? What is the relation of that group to any damage control group involving Plame and Wilson? Since Hughes wasn't officially on the White House payroll, did the order by the White House counsel not to destroy records in the Plame case apply to her? Has Hughes retained counsel in this matter? Has she testified before the grand jury or been interviewed by the FBI? Has she discussed Valerie Plame or Joe Wilson with anyone in the White House Iraq Group -- or any other White House officials -- at any time, before or after the publication of the Novak column? With whom has she ever discussed Plame or Wilson? Rove? "Scooter" Libby? Cheney? The President?


          salon.com
          •  Holy crap... the people are being led on strings. (none)
            This is obvious and blatantly machievellian manipulation. Bush's entire inner circle is in on this. And Bush himself gets off scott free; he wasn't there, he can deny the whole thing, he's unimpeachable. And god knows he'll never do the right thing and step down because his integrity is compromised.

            I'm aghast and disgusted. Yeah, I knew politics could be dirty... but damn, it looks like it's  the same small group of people who have been making it so dirty for years.

            "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson

            by EsnRedshirt on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 09:24:44 PM PST

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    •  Someday the press is going to wake up (4.00)
      and realize that they have become like Pravda, like the German press, like Slobodan Milosevic's press, that told the regime's lies as if they were truth and led their country down a very dark path.

      The Brit Humes know better and don't care as long as they maintain "access" and rake in the big bucks.  The Anderson Coopers don't take the time to become informed and so can be led around by whoever writes their material.

      Only the print press takes the time to investigate to any extent, and, of course, the blogoshpere.  Many of the folks here are MUCH more informed about issues like Social Security and economics (to say nothing of pet issues like Plame) than the press and especially pundits.  Don't believe them when they call you "uninformed."  It is just another example of projection.  They know perfectly well that the collective labors of people here can amass much more information on a given topic, and then analyze it and connect the dots much better, than their celebrity and scoop driven organizations ever could.

      If you're going in the wrong direction and you stay the course, where, exactly, do you wind up?

      by Mimikatz on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:33:13 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  What about Newsweek or Time? (none)
        You referred to printed media - what about them?  I don't read hardcopy  mags anymore so don't know where they are at.  Possible outlet?  

        Maybe for that Pulitzer article (or is it Koziter) SusanG's gonna write.

        Foremost, I'm a Mom. Secondarily, I'm a Geek - have been for almost 25 years.

        by kfred on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:23:58 PM PST

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      •  Exactly (none)
        Thats exactly the power of the blogs- we have such a large pool of knowledge, and when everyone throws in there little bit of perspective a hyper-informed group consensus gets formed.... contrasted to the talking point spewing talking heads on the SCLM. Honestly, the speed with which some of the kossacks have completely outed Gannon as a fraud must scare the shit out of all the spooks and hacks out there in the press.....
      •  The will wake up when the guillotine falls (none)
        Not until all the members of the press on the take start doing perp walks in orange suits will they turn on each other like scared weasels.

        And if the process takes long enough, the country will be in such economic turmoil that the guillotine won't even be metaphorical anymore.

  •  RE: Rove (4.00)
    Excellent job Spyder!

    One minor suggestion, regarding Rove.  He has recently granted interviews or been on the MTP type shows, if you narrow the current reference to something like "who historically did not give interviews" it might be prudent.

    Just a thought - otherwise....well, words just fail me.  This has been intriguing at the least, while simlutaneously exciting and maddening at the most.  We are a mottley crew, aren't we!

    Foremost, I'm a Mom. Secondarily, I'm a Geek - have been for almost 25 years.

    by kfred on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:11:45 PM PST

  •  Countdown nails it (none)
    Dana Milibank on...goes through previous press's with "Mr G" speaking, mentions Plame. Wonderfully done
  •  2005 (4.00)
    and 1975:

     It is also revealed that in December 1975, Novak got a classified leak, that President Ford and Secretary of State Kissinger were ready to make concessions to the Soviet Union to save the SALT II treaty. Donald Rumsfeld, then, as now, the secretary of defense, intervened to block Kissinger. The main leak suspect then was Richard Perle, then an influential aid to Senator Henry Jackson (D-Wash.) and at that time a member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board and a confident of neoconservatives in the Bush Administration.

    So here's what I want to know: WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING FOR 30 YEARS? IT'S NOT JUST THE SAME BS, IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE!

    •  Rove was fired form the Bush Sr. campaign in 92 (4.00)
      ...for leaks to.. wait for it... Robert Novak!

      Rove fired from Bush Sr's '92 campaign over leak to Novak. Karl Rove was fired from the 1992 re-election campaign of Bush Sr. for allegedly leaking a negative story about Bush loyalist/fundraiser Robert Mosbacher to Novak. Novak's piece described a meeting organized by then-Senator Phil Gramm at which Mosbacher was relieved of his duties as state campaign manager because "the president's re-election effort in Texas has been a bust." Rove was fired after Mosbacher fingered him as Novak's source.

      Rove was the "only one with a motive to leak": Mosbacher says: "I said Rove is the only one with a motive to leak this. We let him go." The motive in question? Mosbacher had given Rove only a quarter of the $1 million spent on direct mail contracts for the 92 campaign; Rove, who in 1988 had the entire direct mail contract, therefore had an axe to grind with Mosbacher. Novak's column stated: "Also attending the session was political consultant Karl Rove, who had been shoved aside by Mosbacher."

      Mosbacher still says Rove did it: Although Novak and Rove continue to deny Rove was the source of the leak, Mosbacher recently stated "I still believe he did it."

      (Sources: "Karl and Bob: a leaky history," Houston Chronicle, Nov. 7, 2003, ; "Genius," Texas Monthly, March 2003, p. 82; "Why Are These Men Laughing," Esquire, January 2003)

      cheers,

      Mitch Gore

      Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

      by Lestatdelc on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 07:05:21 PM PST

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  •  Many, many thanks, spiderleaf (none)
    This is brilliant.
    Tremendous thanks & exceptional kudos to all who've contributed.
    You're all amazing. Just amazing. Thank you all.
  •  Thanks Spider (none)
    This is great and very needed for clarity as the real job of cracking the Plame leak follows from this. If this leads to uncloaking the Plame leaker(s) and more Grand Jury investigation the magic word "Indictments" might just get spoken.
    •  the magic word.... (4.00)
      is impeachment.

      "Democrats: Always standing up for what they later realise they should have believed in." -Jon Stewart, the Daily Show

      by anna on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:26:38 PM PST

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      •  Oh yes (none)
        That would be the ultimate magic word.

        Remember (Watergate is the only example) that unless there is enough criminal activity to justify a special prosecutor this won't fly that far. The prosecutors will need enough to have a club over some heads sufficient for there to be enough testimony to go to forming the Special Committee hearings to bring a Bill of Impeachment. This Plame Leak Affair will have to be cracked step by step. Indicments of White House staff members, or the threats of them to get them talking are the first big scalps that have to be brought in.

  •  GOPUSA archives now locked (none)
    i know there's a diary dedicated to the revisionist history at talon and gopusa...

    can someone please post that as of now, their archives are completely locked up and you can only get in with a password?  i hope everybody's archived gopusa already.

    "Democrats: Always standing up for what they later realise they should have believed in." -Jon Stewart, the Daily Show

    by anna on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:24:17 PM PST

    •  you should (4.00)
      post a diary announcing this, and ask others who have archived caches of GOPUSA to send those to the Plame Affair:Gannon researchers.

      What's madness but nobility of the soul at odds with circumstance?

      by slinkerwink on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:38:16 PM PST

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    •  asdf (none)
      'Archives available soon on a subscription basis.'

      Sure they are.

    •  my mistake - it's talon that's locked (none)
      dammit, i'm so sorry for being alarmist.  it's talon news who's archives are locked now.

      i got confused because when you try to access the talon archives it says enter password for "gopusa".  kinda shows how closely they're linked.

      "Democrats: Always standing up for what they later realise they should have believed in." -Jon Stewart, the Daily Show

      by anna on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:52:55 PM PST

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      •  Doesn't matter - (none)
        copies exist and are safely stored away for potential future use.  (Sometimes the incompetence of the GOP is to our advantage.)

        What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away

        by Marie on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:36:00 PM PST

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        •  whew (none)
          good, glad to hear it.  as i mentioned upthread, i'm coming to this party kinda late, so i wasn't sure if the articles had been archived already.  thanks for the tip, marie!

          BTW, love your new sig.  it's perfect-o.

          "Democrats: Always standing up for what they later realise they should have believed in." -Jon Stewart, the Daily Show

          by anna on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 10:20:08 AM PST

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  •  Great. Thanks! (none)
    No multi-million dollar think tanks. Just fantastic work

    Is this their Watergate?

    •  I think so (none)
      I got the same tickle of fear on my neck reading about the Plame leak that I did many years ago reading about a burglary at the Watergate.
      I'm saying I instinctively think this can be their Watergate, and I hope it is for the good of the country.
      •  With Watergate . . . (none)
        Nixon probably could have survived the burglery.  It was the associated coverups, distortions,and machinations that followed that did him in.

        "A little bit of inefficiency is called culture." - Me

        by dbratl on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:34:33 PM PST

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        •  So, Let's get them spinning (none)
          thier web of lies.
        •  That's why this president (none)
          is going to stonewall, stonewall, stonewall.  The Bush admin will use every line of defense they have to ensure this kind of story doesn't take them unawares.  I would think the one thing that has improved since 1972 is the sophistication of the White House in deflecting scandal.  Especially with the SCLM to filter the news (already evident in above reports about NPR and Anderson Cooper's pathetic stories), and a Repug lock on both House and Senate to prevent any public hearings from going forward.

          I'm not being a pessimist.  I'm just saying that we must be relentless with this.

          Thank you, spiderleaf, for your work and dedication.

          Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of nonthought. -- Milan Kundera

          by Dale on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:25:40 PM PST

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      •  Yes --- both are (none)
        obviously pieces in the puzzles.  Only this time we have far more of the pieces than we had in 1972 because BushCo has been so blatant about so many things and a functioning pressed died sometime after 1974.

        What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away

        by Marie on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:32:30 PM PST

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        •  It's better and worse (none)
          It was so isolated, the coverage of Watergate. That was good and bad.  That wouldn't be the case now, is not the case in this story.  One paper has it, we all have it.  

          The functioning press is really very hard to do without.  The press that remains bends over backward in order not to be seen as 'liberal media.'  It is either scared, cowed, bought or just lazy.  It always tries to find something good to say about the right wing and something bad to say about the left.

           It tries to serve two masters and forgets to actually do its job: find out the facts, ask, check, double check, etc.  It is not serving us well, much of the time.

          The climate in Congress is really different than it was in the early 70s...I could go on, but you all know this stuff, I'm sure.  

  •  Kudos for a great job (none)
    There's so much going on with this Gannon thing, in so many dircetions, that its hard to keep up. This post is a big help for me.

    I just wonder who in the liberal Hollywood elite will purchase the movie rights. Its got power, politics, sex and suspense. Could be as good as "All the Presidents Men" by the time the whole spiderweb is unraveled. Lets hope it has the same ending!

    "She was very young,he thought,...she did not understand that to push an inconvenient person over a cliff solves nothing." -1984

    by aggressiveprogressive on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:30:36 PM PST

  •  Sheer perfection, Spiderleaf! (4.00)
    You absolutely nail the timeline in a concise manner.

    I'm in awe.

  •  MAN DATE (4.00)
    Perhaps when bush said he had a mandate, he meant Jeff Gannon -- hehe.

    When all else fails...panic

    by David in Burbank on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:31:18 PM PST

  •  Interesting... (none)
    http://www.jeffgannon.com/

    http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2770

    Btw Sean Hannity was raving about Ganon how sad it is that  he was forced "silent"

    HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!

    "If you sacrifice liberty for security you get neither"

    by lawstudent922 on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:32:36 PM PST

  •  Amazing Journalistic work! (none)
    I can't believe how good is this investigative report!

    All the people working on this piece has really done a marvelous job, and its excellence would be acknowledged in the future, I'm sure.

    You guys are making history here and are taking upon your shoulders (keyboards) the duties long forgotten by the American media.

    Congrats!

  •  Now I'm fascinated... (4.00)
    by the extent to which both the Plame and TANG stories appear to turn on "obviously forged" documents, both of which Gannon appeared to have gained preferential access to.
    •  Connect the dots (4.00)
      They are probably in Texas.  Rove and the folks who bankrolled the Swift vets and the TANG forgeries. Follow the money.

      Find the connections.  Who put Rove in touch with Gannon?  Who gave him the money to set everything up?

      If you're going in the wrong direction and you stay the course, where, exactly, do you wind up?

      by Mimikatz on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:39:20 PM PST

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      •  Gannon was in on TANG, too? (none)
        Please discuss...

        I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

        by Volvo Liberal on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:49:50 PM PST

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      •  Worth noting... (4.00)
        that Bobby Eberle, Gluckert/Gannon's employer until today, is based in Texas, and has an operation (Eberele Communications Group) of its operations in Virginia (i.e. Washington D.C) and has extensive ties to the Texas GOP and Eberle Communications Group is a major fundraiser direct/mail outfit, some of the staff of which is tied to Richard Viguerie, who was/is the direct mail guru who with Scaife, Coors and Weyrich basically BUILT the Fright-WingTM infrastructure out of the Goldwater campaign lists which Viguerie hand copied off of index cards after Goldwaters bid went bust in 64.

        That is the nexus/genesis of the entire Fright-WingTM noise machine and their rise to power.

        cheers,

        Mitch Gore

        Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

        by Lestatdelc on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:46:39 PM PST

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        •  slightly off topic but worth mentioning (none)
          ... speaking of the Texa right wing - Scaife owns MBNA bank and Working Assets - yes - Working Assets runs its VISA credit card out of MBNA  bank.  WTF? MBNA's contributions to Rove et al. clearly far outstrip any leftist charitable contributions made by Working Assets.

          This has to stop.

          •  And Talon is on the move (4.00)
            Not sure if posted elsewhere, but things are getting real strange down in Texas:

            Check this out:

            http://www.leadpencil.net/blog/archives/000234.html

            Much is being made of the 'resignation' of Jeff Gannon, a faux-journalist suspected of being a conservative shill in the White House press briefing room and now also believed to have some ties to lifestyles that don't jibe with the party lines.

            But what about Talon News? According to whois records, talonnews.com is owned by Endeavor Media Group in Houston TX -- a company with a PO Box and a fake phone number listing. When checking on endeavormediagroup.com in whois, the same info comes up -- but endeavormediagroup.com is a Forbidden domain. Also, googling "endeavor media group" gets you nothing. It's like this company doesn't exist.

            And it didn't -- until Monday.

                Endeavor Media Group, LLC (39068802O)
                info@endeavormediagroup.com
                P.O. Box 891354
                Houston, TX 77289
                US
                Phone: 999-999-9999

                Record expires on 07-Feb-2008
                Record created on 07-Feb-2005
                Database last updated on 07-Feb-2005

            I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

            by Volvo Liberal on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:33:54 PM PST

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        •  EXCELLENT Summary of GOPWEB names (none)
          These GOPWEBTx names have been circulating from the beginning of the Plame diaries research.

          You put them in a very concise and historic perspective, effectively stating what has been suspect.

          My timeline runs even before the JFK assassination and the circumstances of CIA Bay of Pigs invasion and the infiltration of CIA in the Cuban exiles front groups. All originates in Tx centers.

          LBJ had a reputation for decades in Tx, so the gimmicks, dirty tricks were swiped and improved. The John Connelly transition from D to R has always puzzled me, but I never had time to do adequate research.

          Q: I couldn't find the direct link between Bobby Eberle, see my diary, and the Bruce Eberle Enterprises. Do you have this INFO?

          Would appreciate some further development on the relationships, perhaps in a new diary. Must see first what all the Assignments have already delivered on information.

          In 2005 - Be liberal: Support our Allies of Democracy on Human Rights, the Environment, Gay and Minority Rights & EU and UN Third World Development Programs & Our Friends

          •  It goes much deeper... (none)
            The Scaife, Coors, Weyrich are tied in with the Bradley Foundation as well. They are the true central players in how the entire Fright-WingTM noise machine came into being.

            I had a diary a while back that delved into some of it in length, but that was only scratching the surface. These freaks are even funding some of the "new democrat" groups on "our" side of the aisle.

            As to your question:

            I couldn't find the direct link between Bobby Eberle, see my diary, and the Bruce Eberle Enterprises. Do you have this INFO?

            The connection is easy. First they are brothers. Second, not too long ago Bruce Eberle folded his MillionsofAmericans.com conservative web site into GOPUSA, Bobby Eberle's group which "Talon News" was a front for. It should be noted that Bruce is CEO of Virginia-based Eberle Communications Group, a fundraising/direct mail/PR powerhouse that boasts such clients as Ronald Reagan (well, when he was alive, I assume ... although his death was actually great PR too), Operation Rescue, Oliver North and Paula Jones, and which illegally sold fund-raising lists to John Ashcroft during his failed United States Senate run for the seat from Missouri.

            The Eberle brothers (Bobby in particular) are firmly entrenched in the Texas GOP and we know who grew out to of that, the President Karl Rove... er... George Bush.

            cheers,

            Mitch Gore

            Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

            by Lestatdelc on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 10:16:37 AM PST

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            •  Excellent diary - publish ... (none)
              a highly abbreviated version with the VIP's and  use the links for additional reading. HIGHLY ACTUAL in today's quest to understand the machinations of GOP-POWER. Make it part of the running investigative diaries if you would.

              Highly recommended. I believe the additional comments today would be enlightening. Have you made this information already part of the dKosopedia? Very exciting.

              In recent months, doing research and moving back in time, I repeatedly stumbled over the "Mellons", "Paul Cameron" and the JB society. I missed your diary last December, a horrible mistake. I have some more specific questions I need to ask, that will come later.

              In 2005 - Be liberal: Support our Allies of Democracy on Human Rights, the Environment, Gay and Minority Rights & EU and UN Third World Development Programs & Our Friends

  •  That's a long post (none)
    And I see nothing about homosexuality.  But, according to the wingnutosphere, that's all we're investigating.

    I hope they continue the dilligent research for which they're known and check back here to see your effort ;)

  •  As I was watching Olbermann (none)
    I was thinking perhaps we should be careful around the gay-military-stud stuff. Has anyone checked these sites out? I worry they could be a white house contingency plan if/when Gannon was 'outed' as a fake, shifting focus to his alleged sexual improprieties. Do these sites seem like the real thing?
    I apologize if this has been asked before - I've been away at, well, my job.
    •  Definately (none)
      I was afraid of this and wrote some comments about it last night. The red herring was part of the damage control strategy.

      We lost the initiative and now have to scramble to get the frame back.

      I'm not left or right. I'm ahead. Progressives for the future!

      by weirdscenes on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 09:56:43 PM PST

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  •  Spiderleaf, you may already have this (4.00)
    but I am going to send it anyway. This just in from Media Matters.

    I particularly love this "planted" information:

    HANNITY: Now, Jeff Gannon, who is a terrific Washington bureau chief and White House correspondent for Talon News, actually shot me an e-mail today, and he's about to break a story in an exclusive about these CBS documents. [The Sean Hannity Show, 9/10/04]

    Here is the full email from Media Matters:

    Hannity on Gannon: "a terrific Washington bureau chief and White House correspondent for Talon News"

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200502100001

    Conservative radio hosts Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have cited Talon News, the online "news" organization that appears to be more of a Republican political advocacy group than a media outlet, and its former Washington bureau chief and White House correspondent, Jeff Gannon, as sources on their radio broadcasts.

    In addition to citing both Talon News and Gannon on ABC Radio Networks' The Sean Hannity Show, Hannity has referred to Gannon as "a terrific Washington bureau chief and White House correspondent for Talon News," and according to a program summary on the website for San Francisco radio station KSFO, which carries Hannity's show, Gannon was a guest on the February 10, 2004, edition of the program. The program summary for that broadcast states: "Sean spends a moment with Jeff Gannon, Washington Bureau Chief for Talon News.com. Jeff talks about his daily meetings with White House Press Secretary Scott McCellan [sic]." Media Matters for America demonstrated that Gannon has served as a lifeline for White House press secretary Scott McClellan at press briefings and that Gannon copied GOP documents and releases verbatim and without attribution for use in his articles.

    Here are three other instances in which Hannity cited Gannon or Talon News as a source on his radio show:

    HANNITY: He's [radio host Mike Webb] apparently a liberal talk show host known for his disdain of the president and the Bush administration. And a report says that he called for the death penalty for the president and the Secretary of State [sic: Defense] Donald Rumsfeld for war crimes. He apparently denied a report last week by Talon News, but the Internet site -- and said yesterday that they have a tape that proves that this host, Mike Webb, made the statements on the air. [The Sean Hannity Show, 5/27/04]

    HANNITY: And apparently they're also, according to Jeff Gannon, the -- Talon News -- this woman, Mary Mapes, this Dallas producer [involved in the controversy over memos about President Bush's National Guard service], is under pressure for the [CBS] network, and now there's doubts about their authenticity has taken place. Let me tell you what that means. That means everything's going downhill. And you watch. There's going to be somebody that has to take the fall here, and it's not going to be uh, it's not going to be [CBS anchor] Dan Rather. [The Sean Hannity Show, 9/7/04]

    HANNITY: Now, Jeff Gannon, who is a terrific Washington bureau chief and White House correspondent for Talon News, actually shot me an e-mail today, and he's about to break a story in an exclusive about these CBS documents. [The Sean Hannity Show, 9/10/04]

    On the September 23, 2004, edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show, host Limbaugh cited Talon News as "our source" for a story about an email sent by progressive group MoveOn.org to its supporters linking the prevalence of hurricanes in Florida at the time to global warming and the Bush administration's environmental policies. The article, titled "MoveOn: Bush to Blame for 'Extreme' Hurricane Season," has been removed from the Talon News site (along with all other archived Talon "news reports" since the organization came under scrutiny) but is available here, in Google's cache. After citing Talon News, Limbaugh read excerpts of the article and concluded: "This is total BS. ... [I]f global warming were actually happening, there would be fewer hurricanes."

    As Media Matters noted, Limbaugh bragged that a quote he fabricated had surfaced in a question Gannon asked of Bush at a January 26 White House press conference. Limbaugh said he was "flattered and honored and proud to have a point made by this program represented in the press conference and asked by a reporter." Limbaugh later falsely claimed that Gannon's question was "accurate."

  •  In another time... (none)
    Pulitzers would be handed out simply for getting the story together and getting it out there.  Nice work to all who contributed.  
  •  A big high five to everyone involved (none)
    in breaking this. Awesome job! Is there any doubt now that the new free press in this country is the blogosphere?

    I've driven in the middle of the road, and in the ditch. You meet a lot more interesting people in the ditch- Neil Young

    by ctami on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:53:39 PM PST

  •  Audio of Jeff Gannon (none)
    Found this Jeff Gannon audio over on theconservativeguy.com
  •  well done (none)
    i have been following this, and than i heard randi on air america, and one of you i think brian in nyc.
    it makes you feel really good that you plug into a kos and co.

    rove is the one to bring down.  

  •  Not in Jail (none)
    Gannon isn't in jail so he must have told the grand jury about his sources.  Either that or they didn't need his testimony.
  •  The next line of investigation (none)
    Is to see if any maintream outlets or conservative persona...Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity et al REFERENCED Talon News/Jeff Gannon as a 'source' for their spew in the days and weeks following the onset of the Plame investigation....

    Talon News/Jeff Gannon is in itself tiny and inconsequenial on the day-to-day. Where they can provide service is by being a bogus source for the bogus 'facts' that the truly powerful conservative media has been shoving down our throats.

    Has anyone started to read Rush/O'Reilly/Hannity transcripts yet to see if Talon News is used as a source? Can anyone do a Nexus/lexus (sp)?

    In the midst of life we are in debt, etc.

    by ablington on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:25:08 PM PST

  •  The Plame timeline II (none)
    ...was also ported to the dKospedia... if there are substantive additions/changes, etc. it would be good for people to lend a hand updating/fleshing out the dKospedia entry on this

    cheers,

    Mitch Gore

    Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

    by Lestatdelc on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:31:28 PM PST

  •  The true identity (none)
    LOL anyone notice the name of his pictures???
    JDG!!  What a tool this guy is.

    http://theconservativeguy.com/images/jdg2.jpg

  •  the Plame Investigation (4.00)
    Over at Eschaton, there is a tremendously generous poster who had some recent information and reasons to believe that the investigation is probably just turning into a clock-running white wash.  It seems that the best thing that can come out of all of your fabulous work on the Gannon affair is that the focus is redirected to demanding answers in Fitzgerald's investigation.

    I mean, as Atrios and others pointed out, it looks like a new shill might already have replaced Gannon.  We know there are hundreds of willing freepers who would do the job.  So it strikes me that the goal must be some movement on the Plame front.  Perhaps a re-allocation or re-commitment of Kos efforts in that direction would be appropriate now.  I am not good at these things -- but maybe a well-timed request to some noisy Senators?  Getting some of this info. to Reid who is currently outraged by the RNC and Bush(he only likes communication from Nevadans I know, I've tried).

    What else?  More publicity that links thi sto the yellow cake story?  Maybe convince CBS that there is a good reason to run that story now with a new angle (one that happily justifies the network)>

  •  State of the Washington Press. (4.00)
    With the whole Deep-Throat-Is-About-to-Die thing going on, I sat down to watch "All the President's Men" to get a refresher.

    What struck me was that Nixon resigning was a direct result of the hunger of Woodward and Bernstein.  Any other writer would have been too lazy to follow up on it, as evidenced by the fact that the duo were the only ones in the whole country writing about it.

    Now we have a Press Corps where the story walks right in to their lair, takes a big steaming pile of shit, and walks right out without anyone realizing a story was there for the taking.

    Great job Kossacks.  Guess we know who's hungry and who's not, and in a Darwinistic sense, who is going to survive, if only a true-journalistic sense.

  •  One thing I don't get... (none)
    I love this whole story, but there's one bit that doesn't seem as outrageous to me as to other people.. can someone explain this? David Cloud, Oct 17:
    An internal government memo addresses some of the mysteries at the center of the White House leak investigation... The memo, prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel, details a meeting in early 2002 where CIA officer Valerie Plame and other intelligence officials gathered... Ms. Plame, a member of the agency's clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested at the meeting that her husband, Africa expert and former U.S. diplomat Joseph Wilson, could be sent to Niger to investigate the reports, according to current and former government officials familiar with the meeting at the CIA's Virginia headquarters.
    Gannonguckert, Oct 28:
    An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?
    So clue me in.. what exactly did Gannonguckert say that demonstrated firsthand knowledge of the CIA memo? He'd obviously read the earlier story, but what did he add to it? To me, his later quotes make him sound like someone who wants to puff himself up by pretending to have inside sources that he doesn't actually have. Please clear up my naivete, but I see no smoking gun here...
    •  i wonder about that, too (none)
      i agree with your theory.

      what are we missing here, people?

      "Democrats: Always standing up for what they later realise they should have believed in." -Jon Stewart, the Daily Show

      by anna on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 07:01:38 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Well on is Gannon/Gluckert's own words... (none)
      A memo written by an INR (Intelligence and Research) analyst who made notes of the meeting at which Wilson was asked to go to Niger sensed that something fishy was going on.  That report made it to the outside world courtesy of some patriotic whistleblower that realized that a bag job was underway.
      ....

      The classified document that slipped out sometime after the meeting put her name before the public, albeit a small group of inside-the-beltway types, but effectively ended the notion that she was still covert.
      ....

      I raised all of these questions with Wilson in October 2003 in an interview for Talon News. Since I was aware of the INR report, I confronted him about it.

      What is difficult to understand is the reason that the CIA would want to discredit this report.  The first clue came when the agents from the FBI came to my home in March 2003 to question me in connection to the leak probe. I was flattered to think that I was important enough to be included among the luminaries like Andrea Mitchell, Tim Russert and Chris Matthews who were also named in a Justice Department subpoena of records from the White House.  But most of the questions were about the INR report.  They wanted to know where I got it and what I knew about it.  Of course, as a journalist there wasn't much I could say without revealing my sources.  I'm sure they were not satisfied, but it made me wonder why they were so interested in a document the CIA said was false.

      Joe Wilson Lied and Owes Bush and America - Google cache from Jeffgannon.com

      cheers,

      Mitch Gore

      Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

      by Lestatdelc on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 07:23:43 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  It's the subsequent statements (none)
      by Gannon that lead to his being fed or told of the memo. As I mentioned, he could have just lifted from Novak/ Cloud, but a) he would have had no 'gotcha' moment and no reason to believe he was right and b) his subsequent statements as to his sources and disagreeing with the characterization of the memo which shed a different light.

      Granted, the guy is no journalist and doesn't really write his own pieces (as other diaries have shown, half of his pieces are lifted straight from WH press releases), so he cliff-noted some of the statements from Cloud's piece, but he dropped all qualifiers for his interview with Wilson and his later statements lead us to believe he either saw the memo or trusted implicitely the person who told him about it.

      Jaded Reality... I've had enough spin for today thanks...

      by spiderleaf on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 07:55:19 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Talon says they were the first to know of the memo (none)
      From their now removed article dated December 31, 2003:

      Talon News was the only service identified by the Washington Post as having knowledge of the memo's existence. The newspaper goes on to say that CIA officials have challenged the accuracy of the document purportedly written by a State Department official who works for the Bureau of Intelligence and Research.

      Though I am not 100% Talon got even that right, since the story that Talon is referring to in the Washington Post doesn't say what the above alludes to. Talon was the only one mentioned in the article, but the Post doesn't seem to be saying that Talon was the only one flogging the memo.

      cheers,

      Mitch Gore

      Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

      by Lestatdelc on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:48:43 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Endeavor Media Group, Houston (4.00)
    Anyone have any info on Endeavor Media Group in Houston?  Is this a new wrinkle or did I miss it?

    http://www.leadpencil.net/blog/archives/000234.html

    •  Brand new wrinkle... (4.00)
      Layer of obfuscation added by Bobby Eberle.  We got too close.  GOPUSA and Talon News now under the umbrellas of the Endeavor Media Group LLC.  Of course, there's not yet any paperwork online for Endeavor Media Group LLC with the Texas Secretary of State.
      •  Sorry, posted above as well (none)
        This is so totally sick...I mean, you can really just change the ownership of a "media company" literally overnight....who knew?

        Follow the findings and paperwork in Houston...stake out the PO Box with a digital camera on hand...

        We're close folks, so very close.....

        I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

        by Volvo Liberal on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:37:33 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Kudos, dqueue (none)
        I saw that you had posted Guckert's name on SusanG's first diary.  

        FYI, I did a google search on 5721 Kennett Pike tonight: only 4 hits, 3 of which are DKOS, 1 is the real estate site listing the sale.  The picture and details of the home are now gone.  

      •  Also, I googled (none)
        JGuckert+court reporter+wilmington.  

        Nothing.  

        Guess I imagined the link.

  •  what does he want from the serfs? (none)
    karl what is it that you desire?
  •  So (none)
    They set this chump up to take the fall for the Plame thing.  
  •  We're proud of you, Spider (none)
    I said it to SusanG, and I'll say it to you -

    You've all set a standard and have demonstrated the power of what dKos, NetRoots, and whatever else you want to call this thing that we're a part of is all about.

    You've done it all with spirit and integrity. I'm humbled just as I'm filled with hope.

    I wish I could say that the right wing corporate media is dead and irrelevant. It's not, but you've provided the clearest example of why it will be.

    Thank you, and Peace - RubDMC

    "...psychopaths have little difficulty infiltrating the domains of...politics, law enforcement, (and) government." Dr. Robert Hare

    by RubDMC on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 07:17:27 PM PST

  •  Haven't seen anything like this at DKos (none)
    Even the stolen election of 2004 didn't get this much attention. We are making a monumental transition of the power of the blog.

    "Blogging doesn't make it so" - Sen. Hayworth (R) AZ 1/6/2005. Oh yeah?

    by bejammin075 on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 07:25:35 PM PST

    •  i'd like to think (4.00)
      if we had a pic of blackwell in his fruit o' the looms, we might have made the evening news.  Alas, the only pics we had was of voter suppression and ballot tampering.

      Oh well.

      btw, great job spiderleaf.  You all are so good, you're making me feel all fuzzy inside...what's that feeling?  ah, yes.  faith in the integrity and progres of the American citizen.

      Keep it up.  

      If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

      by Georgia Logothetis on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:10:20 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  You're a trailblazer too, Georgia. n/t (none)
      •  i'd like to think (none)
        That people paid attention to the Ohio work done here, and that laid the groundwork for the respect being given to the type of collective investigation work being done now.

        Like SusanG has been saying, we are who we have been waiting for. When we own the responsibility for finding and exposing the truth, we will own BushRovePNAC, and we will ultimately take our places as rightful owners of our government.

  •  developing... (none)
    Looks like Drudge is about to put something up; Online Reporter Quits After Liberals' Expose...

    This machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender.

    by RabidChild on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 07:26:34 PM PST

  •  Can I buy the film rights to this?! (none)
    please?!

    Oh my God.

  •  Gannon and dKos (none)
    on Mike Malloy right now streaming at AAR.
  •  CNN.com has an article up (4.00)
    •  they do a good job (none)
      linking it to williams, but they could've hit the FRAUD of it a bit more.

      oh, and no mention of Plame at all.

      If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

      by Georgia Logothetis on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:13:10 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Still a pretty good piece (none)
        Have to say I am pretty pleased...THIS WAS OUR DOING and it is now on a CNN website. Just step back and realize how awesome that is...we are literally replacing the media....

        I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

        by Volvo Liberal on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:25:07 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Opening line of article (none)
     A New York congresswoman asked the White House on Wednesday to explain why a man who worked for a news Web site owned by a GOP activist was able to obtain White House press credentials under an assumed name
  •  Simply Incredible!!!! (none)
    This is what the TRUE media is supposed to look like.  You all have made every person who reads, contributes and participates in digging for truth proud today.
    Thank You
    Thank You
    Thank You
  •  Being from Canada (none)
    The media is kinda like a snowball.....you start rolling it down a hill and it gets bigger and bigger, we just have to make sure it hits the right target.  Because we started it rolling lets make sure what we started goes the right way.
  •  Question (none)
    I understand how to do a whois search to see who owns the jeffgannon.com, etc. websites.   But how do you search to find what other websites he registered?  I don't understand how the gay sex sites were found.

    Any help?

  •  Salon.com has it now with a Great Quote (none)
    The situation "begs further investigation," says James Pinkerton, a media critic for Fox News who has worked for two Republican White Houses. "In the six years I worked for Reagan and Bush I, I remember the White House being strict about who got in. It's inconceivable to me that the White House, especially after 9/11, gives credentials to people without doing a background check."

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/02/10/gannon_affair/

  •  And just like that, Gannon is gone (none)
    Americablog, of course, has the goods:

    http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/all-of-gannons-stories-deleted-from.html

    Gannon, quite simply, has disappeared...

    Jesus H......

    I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

    by Volvo Liberal on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 08:42:11 PM PST

  •  Jim Guckert and Conneaut Lake High School (none)
    I'm not sure if it will help to further confirm Jeff Gannon's true identity, but I looked up Jim Guckert on Classmates.com and there is a Jim Guckert who attended Conneaut Lake High School in Conneaut Lake, PA from 1971-1974.

    I checked to see if I could find any links between Gannon and Conneaut Lake and I found an article that he posted at a Conneaut Lake website. Here's the link More Evidence Against Pro-Dem Reporter Surfaces.

    Hope this helps.

  •  The true evil that is Kos (none)
    Wingnut spinmiesters will assail the good blogmaster for any number of offenses (all of which boil down to a contempt of rethug hypocrisy)

    On this one, they are in a box. Kos did not push this story. He didn't even seem to be aware of it until it spread to the rest of the internets.

    No, this is citizen journalism at it's bestest. For my 48 years, this story might be the only example of 'citizen journalism' that passes the muster of actual journalism.

    So there you have it. Kos is evil. He not only encourages people to speak out, he actively encourages communication between people. How we can survive such an onslaught against pre-fabricated news and opinion is beyond me.

    But enough droll sarcasm. An honest to gawd standing ovation goes out to spiderleaf, SusanG and all else involved in this remarkable endeavor. And, of course to that evil man, Kos, for aiding and abetting actual communication.

  •  Kos on Gannon in the WaPo (4.00)
    Howard Kurtz has written an article in the Washington Post about Gannon, and includes a quote from Kos:
    Markos Moulitsas, a San Francisco liberal who writes the popular Kos site, said of Gannon: "He has been extremely anti-gay in his writings. He's been a shill for the Christian right. So there's a certain level of hypocrisy there that I thought was fair game and needed to be called out."

    Asked if digging into someone's personal and business activities was proper retaliation, Moulitsas said: "If that's what it took to really bring attention to him, it's one of those unfortunate facts of reality in the way we operate today. It's sex that really draws attention to these things."

    •  Howie the Hack (none)
      says things which are very reasonable, then studiously ignores them when they apply to his own work.

      'Digging into his personal and business activities' sounds like people are rooting through his trashbags after they are put to curb.

      Jeff 'Still sexy, militarystud and pimp' Gannon forged an online presense and persona which left an easy trail. No one invaded any area of the man's life where a reasonable person would expect privacy.

      'Gannon' preaches how others should live, while hacks like Howie demand no one should examine this 'spokesmodel' from the comfort of an easychair with an internet connection.

      It's time to torture CNN. Howie the Hack must go.

      •  And not a damn word on Plame (none)
        Howie knows who signs his check, so he needs to make this look like an after-school food fight...Sill we got dKos and the word "World o' Crap" in the WaPo which is a pretty good thing, if you ask me!

        I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

        by Volvo Liberal on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 09:35:26 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Why continue repeating the pseudonym? (none)
      Jeff Gannon, who had been writing for the Web sites Talon News and GOPUSA, is actually James Dale Guckert, 47, and has been linked to online domain addresses with sexually provocative names.

      After this sentence, Kurtz continues to refer to Guckert as Gannon.  Why would he do that if he has already confirmed his real name?

  •  Consider the Source (none)
    Please help me understand some of the details.

    There's occassionally some criticism of Joseph Wilson, questioning his integrity after supposedly being caught in a lie.  I poked around some, trying to make heads or tails of this stuff.  One such item is whether or not his wife recommended him for the Niger trip.  Another is his charge that Karl Rove has a hand in the whole mess.  If there's others, it's beyond my ability to discern.

    From what I can tell, Jeff Gannon is the source of the first item.  Is that true?  If so, seeing how Jeff Gannon has been busted as a fraud, and I am comfortable assuming that everything he's ever said is fraudent, then Wilson is cleared of item one.

    As for Rove's involvement, I read that Chris Mathews is the source.  So that takes care of item number two.

    Does that about cover it?

  •  What are your sources? (none)
    spiderleaf: What is your source for the "April 3, 2003" date that Talon News received WH press credentials?
  •  Google News (none)
    Google News' Algorithm is finally starting to pick up the Gannon story.  It's been on and off the "More Top Stories" section (bottom of news.google.com) for the last hour or so.  By the morning, it hopefully will be in the "US Section" or maybe at the very top.

    As of posting this, Google has only 11 stories on the topic linked together.  They can be found here if news.google.com isn't displaying them at the moment.

  •  My first post on DKos (4.00)
    And I want to say that you guys are AWESOME!!

    This narrative answers a lot of nagging questions that I've had about the Plame case.  In a perfect world, this would be on the front page of the Boston Globe tomorrow.  Somebody has probably already said this, but I think we can expect the Rovians to dig themselves into an even deeper hole in the same way that Plame was outed.

  •  I Just googled and got Gannon's page (none)
    It had the "The Voice goes silent" thingy.  Oddly there's a "Video game rental" link under his web counter. It links to an on line video game rental place. Maybe that was placed by his ISP or web developer, but it's strange.  Even in the face of adversity, capitalism churns on.

    Stellar work by the way.

    •  What adversity? (none)
      I guarntee that site had more hits today than any other day it was active...those guys got their advertising dollar's worth...

      Let the word go forth From this time and place To friend and foe alike That the torch has been passed To a new generation of Americans.

      by TheGryphon on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 10:43:13 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Bravo! (none)
    Great work!

    Lets keep it up!

    ---

    Thanks for making my day.

  •  Wonderful Work! Maybe This Democracy Can be Saved (none)

    "Washington Bureau Chief" Gannon's journalism credentials consisted of a two day workshop at the Leadership Institute (for $59.00).  Morton Blackwell is the director of the Leadership Institute, devoting to training conservative leaders.  His "Congressional Advisory Board" consists of virtually every right wing reactionary in Congress.  For the list see:

    http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/01ABOUTUS/

  •  Help (none)
    Is anyone else still awake?  I have a request.  Can a couple of people volunteer to check something.

    This is a link to the pdf file of The Leadership Institute's Bi-Partisan Congressional Advisory Board.  The are representatives and senators.  I wanted to see how bi-partisan it is.  Could someone (or a couple of people to double check the count) go through the list and count dems and repubs (probably need to google them)?

    I'm working on organizing data or I'd do it myself.

    Thanks

    •  Senators First (none)
      18 of them on the LI's "Bi-Partisan Congressional Advisory Board" [PDF file list dated 2/6/04].

      18 Rethugs.

      Allen (VA)
      Allard (CO)
      Brownback (KS)
      Chambliss (GA)
      Cornyn (TX)
      Craig (ID)
      Crapo (ID)
      Ensign (NV)
      Frist (TN)
      Grassley (IA)
      Hatch (UT)
      Inhofe (OK)
      Kyl (AZ)
      Lott (MS)
      McConnell (KY)
      Nickles (OK)
      Santorum (PA)
      Talent (MO)

      On to the Representatives.

    •  Now the Representatives (4.00)
      I'm not going to publish the full list here; get the pdf file.

      91 U.S. Representatives (76 currently serving in 109th Congress) listed as members of the Leadership Institute's "Bi-Partisan Congressional Advisory Board".

      90 of them are still living -- one on the list is deceased.

      90 of them are Rethugs.

      The dead guy? Former Rep. Larry McDonald of GA, a conservative John Bircher who was killed as a passenger on KAL Flight 007 in 1983. As far as I can tell, he's still dead.

      He was a Democrat -- In Name Only.

      Methinks one dead DINO does not make a Bi-Partisan Advisory Board.

      •  Can this affect their 501(c)(3) status? (none)
        From what I am reading, if we can find any evidence that they are promoting partisan ideology, they are violating the terms of their 501(c)(3) status. But I'm not a tax attorney, and I don't even play one on the Internets.

        Can someone address this issue?

      •  You ROCK!! (none)
        Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.

        I saw the list and suspected it was heavy on the repubs.  I expected they would put at least a couple of dems.  Never expected just one dead dem.  Although I'm not totally surprised.

        Thank you for doing this.  I know it doesn't seem like an important part of the story but it all adds up.

        •  No, YOU Rock!!! (none)
          Thank you for keeping after the Leadership Institute/Morton Blackwell angle.

          I really feel in my gut that there is something there, especially after that part of the initial investigation was cast aside after the appearance of a convincing troll.

          Guckert's campus connections and work with boottotheskull.com dovetail with the organized efforts of Blackwell and gopusa.com to develop Neocon youth brigades and place them in positions of influence.

          When we are finally able to follow the money (funding for Bedrock Corp, gopusa.com) don't be surprised if it leads back inside the beltway.

  •  Transcriber of INR memo? (none)
    From upthread:
    A memo written by an INR (Intelligence and Research) analyst who made notes of the meeting at which Wilson was asked to go to Niger sensed that something fishy was going on.  That report made it to the outside world courtesy of some patriotic whistleblower that realized that a bag job was underway.

    Someone transcribed the meeting notes above and must have formally prepared them--typed up for review, whatever.

    "Jim Guckert" who was listed on a business directory page for court reporting and secretarial services in Wilmington.

    Is there any chance James Guckert is the same person as Jim Guckert and/or had connections to the person who transcribed the INR notes? If the 2 Guckerts are the same person, does he have friends from court reporting who went on to work at the CIA as transcribers?

    I guess I'm wondering if Gannon had a source he used ouside the WH to get the info since it seems that not many saw this memo.

  •  Jumping back in briefly (4.00)
    First- great job, everyone. It's inspiring to see...not that Gannon has gone (though that's a small part of it) but that what Gannon represents is being exposed.

    I have not been able to keep up, much less even be online the last few days, so excuse me if I'm asking questions or making speculations that have already been addressed.

    When I saw this:

    HANNITY: Now, Jeff Gannon, who is a terrific Washington bureau chief and White House correspondent for Talon News, actually shot me an e-mail today, and he's about to break a story in an exclusive about these CBS documents. [The Sean Hannity Show, 9/10/04]

    I thought about the list of people who had also attended the two day journalism class. Wasn't one of them a producer at CBS? Obviously they're lots of producers at CBS, but I think that Gannon was part of the Rove set up to spin Bush's Nat'l Guard Record, as well as part of the effort to discredit Wilson.

    What part of the govt claims the INR?

    Bolton? Could it be any of the same people who were part of Rummy's "Team B" that was ignoring the "reality-based" CIA and embracing the forged Niger docs done in Italy? ...like Feith?

    ...and was Ledeen or Perle meeting with Ghorbanifar around that time? (Hersh reported on that, didn't he?) Didn't Perle have to resign because he was selling security for a war for which he was helping, seemingly, to fabricate evidence?

    And, again, the CIA had already tagged Ghorbanifar as untrustworthy (based upon his double timing during Iran/Contra?) ...so, again, another fissure between the CIA, the Pentagoners who had been at this for some time, and the OSP/Team B-ers whose greatest hits include lying to Congress, selling weapons to Iran, allowing cocaine smuggling into the U.S. to raise money for right wing terrorists in Central America...

    Gannon is a small fish. Maybe he's out of a branch of military intel and he gets his ego fed big time by his elevation to the big time while getting a big fat payback via GOPUSA. He's like McCord with a little Segretti tossed in, maybe.

    He's Mr. Plausible deniability at work- The group that was circulating the memo was the same group discrediting Wilson/Plame...via the INR story? It was someone who couldn't have been at the meeting, but it was someone who was part of Team B/OSP?

    They wanted to get their war on. They wanted to destroy anyone who tried to stop them. They went too far and broke the law...big time...by outing Plame while posturing as the party that is all about national security...so, in order to cover their asses...well, national security be damned.

    They wanted to get their war on so badly, they got someone to forge documents. (And the payoff for Italy was the same as other nations...the coalition of the billing.) Remember, as I mentioned in an earlier diary, in late Feb. Ari was getting laughed out of the press room when he tried to act surprised that anyone would think the neocons were trying to buy support for their invasion.

    So, now someone can tell me that this has all been covered in the thirteen diaries floating around on this day, not to mention the others...

  •  Nice Job:But before Launchin All Out Oral Sex Orgy (4.00)
    Good reporting but before breaking all our arms trying to slap ourselves on our own backs....and before Launching an All Our Oral Sex Orgy over the Gannon Affair......when is someone in Bloggerland going to file a Freedom of Information Act Suit to track down where all the 88 million dollars was spent by the Bush Administration in pushing propaganda about their programs and disinitiatives.  Maybe in that 88 million will be exposed a few hundred K that went to that poor excuse for a human being....Gannon.  Somebody needs to file this FOIA.  jH
    •  One more thing (none)
      And someone needs go check out the Incorporation articles for Bedrock Corp and figure out who is BEHIND Gannon.

      Entity Name: BEDROCK CORPORATION
      File Number: 2736923
      Incorporation Date: 04/10/1997
      Entity Kind: CORPORATION
      Entity Type: CLOSED CORP
      State: DE

      File Number:      2221423     
      Incorporation Date 02/07/1990
      Entity Name:     THE BEDROCK CORPORATION
      Entity Kind:     CORPORATION    
      Entity Type:     CLOSED CORP
      State: DE

      New Castle County Recorder of Deeds or Delaware SoS. (need $20)

      A list of people who can do access records is here

  •  dKos Historical Evolution (none)
    To Kos and his closest die-hards of the first hour, wouldn't it be possible to encapsulate the moments of  extraordinary endeavor in a dKos Hall of Fame or an Honorary Award?

    Although I usually do not care for most distinctions, because by its definition the difficulty to distinguish in accomplishments between persons, the exceptions make the rule.

    Perhaps the recent developments could point to such a move for exceptionality. For one, the Plame diaries with the Letter of Ambassador Joe Wilson is certainly memorable.

    Congratulations for all in dKos community working behind the scenes and contributing their bits and pieces. To the leadership of the diaries these past ten days, a job well done and the bows and accolades well deserved.

    Please can I get my next assignment though!

    In 2005 - Be liberal: Support our Allies of Democracy on Human Rights, the Environment, Gay and Minority Rights & EU and UN Third World Development Programs & Our Friends

  •  Our man NyBri on Rhandi Rhoades... (4.00)
    I'm sure someone else has already posted about this but there are so many awesome (and long! not complaining- this kicks ass!) diaries and front pagers that its hard to keep up.

    Anyway, driving from work today I heard NYBri come on Rhandi's show and basically coached her along to make sure she framed the story just right.  All props to Rhandi cuz she is certainly a voice from the reality-based world, but sometimes she goes a bit off the ranch in the middle of a really good rant, so while she WAS already doing a great job talking about this, NYBri steered her course and also ensured that SusanG (you rock girl!) and all the other Kossacks got just due for hounding this scum from the halls of Washington.  

    NyBri, I personally want to thank you for being one of the only intelligent callers I have EVER heard on a talk show (from either side LOL) and for timing it so perfectly as to be able to make sure the focus is on whats important and in the right order 1)unjustified access 2)plame affair and 3)hypocrisy on the anti-gay writer/gay man angle.  I was very worried when the first hints of it hitting the MSM started to come out, that this would get muddled but with all the intelligentsia out there standing up for the truth (finally....I can breath!) I think this one might just stick with a real loud thud!

    For everyone else, make sure you let NYBri know he did an awesome job and give him lots of mojo and don't forget SusanG and all the other awesome people on here who have done such great work that it feels like I haven't slept for a month trying to keep up!!!  

    "But we have to stay angry and keep objecting. It's like staying awake in the freezing cold. If we sleep, we're dead." - Mary Julia (dKos poster)

    by I Want My American Pride Back on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 02:16:32 AM PST

  •  Rove is the Prize! (none)

    ..while the operative does all the dirty work down in the ditch, and splashes the mud, and spreads the scurrilous smears and rumors and whisper campaigns that have the desired political effect to keep the candidate elected.

    And I also think it's possible that Karl is pathological.

    He wanted things simple. He wanted them black and white. And he's found a President who thinks the same way. And unfortunately, life is not lived in the black-and-white zones. It's lived in the gray zones. And this President and Karl don't acknowledge that the gray zones exist.

    They have a 24-hour machine that attacks. And it's constantly staffed and it intimidates and it distracts. It uses head fakes.

    They play this game of access. They know very well that once a reporter loses his or her access to the White House, their job is gone. And so the reporter is sort of intimidated into not asking these kinds of tough questions. This is a game that they perfected here in Texas.

    from Bush's Brain

  •  From Joe Wilson (4.00)
    Well done.  The timeline is extraordinarily useful even to one who has lived through it.  One minor point.  Between July 14, the date of the publication of Novak's article and the opening of the Justice investigation at the end of September, I appeared on very few shows, and restricted my commentd to noting that if what Novak had alleged were true, then, as David Corn of the Nation had written, a crime might have been committed.  It was after the opening of the investigation, when by that act it was confirmed that Valerie was what Novak alleged, that I more openly attacked the administration and Rove who had been the one to call Chris Matthews to say that Valerie was "fair game."
    And now Rove is Deputy Chief of Staff.  Have they no shame.  
    •  No shame (none)
      No, Ambassador Wilson, I believe that they do not have any shame.  

      Thank you for your service to this country.  

    •  Thank you sir (none)
      I will update to reflect that.

      And thank you for continuing your service and all the best to Mrs. Wilson as well.

      (and I agree... no shame)

      Jaded Reality... I've had enough spin for today thanks...

      by spiderleaf on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 06:07:08 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Thank you and your wife, Ambassador. (none)
      I was shocked and outraged at her exposure by the Bush administration.

      This American is truly grateful for you and your wife's service to this nation- Thank you both.

      Skip Van Hook

    •  "Patriot" (none)
      Thank you, Ambassador Wilson.  

      I know that the word "patriot" has been sorely misused -- applied to missile systems and repressive legislation more than to those who love and work for their country.  [And of course there is the "last refuge" stuff so in vogue today.]

      But in my attempt to reclaim the word's actual meaning -- I consider you a thoughtful and generous patriot.  I am a criminal law teacher and lawyer and I know how trying these investigations are.  I hope you and your wife are holding up -- and thriving!

  •  Amazing story (none)
    and potentially a huge scandal.
    If Plame worked as an operative in Iraq during the war, one could argue that Gannon, Rove, et al have given aid and comfort to the enemy by outing Plame. This would be treason as defined by the U.S. Constitution.  
  •  Bravo! (none)
    What a piece of work!

    Where the hell was the NYT or the WaPo on this?

    If bloggers can do this then WE are doing the mainstream's job.

    WHY?

    What in hell's name has the administration got on the mainstream media ownership and publishers that so frightens them, they remain silent and stupidly oblivious to the utter corruption of the Bush administration?

    Why is the mainstream media tolerating what amounts to Fascism?  

  •  Why now? (none)
    Okay, tinfoil time.  I know a few people have asked this question, and I'm paranoid enough to ask as well.  Why allow Gannon to be outed now?  Did Gannon's own hubris lead to this moment, or were we deliberately "lead" here by a bunch of puppetmasters eager to have Gannon outed to serve some other nefarious purpose?  

    My point is now I wouldn't be surprised if some other (possibly planted) journalistic "hack" is discovered by the freepers on their own hunt and it leads back to some quasi-credible progressive issue advocacy group (that may or may not be a GOP front).  THis would immediately be seized by the freepers and the RW noise machine, spouted all over the SCLM and will obliquely refer to the legitimate Gannon-gate story to provide political cover a la "See the right wing did it, what's to stop the left?"

    The end result is, will this cause a whirlwind of media paranoia, with the end result being the creation of some quasi-governmental agency to "credential" media as trusted sources?

    Or will this rabbit hole lead deeper than we originally thought, and SusanG and gang accidentally stumble upon "classified documents" leading to a right wing call for limiting the search power of the internet?

    Call me crazy, but man oh man it just seems too convenient such a nice trail was laid out for us to follow.  THis guy's been operating for almost 2 years, why did we catch him now?

  •  A new gig for Jeff? (none)
    Perhaps the fake news show, known as the Daily Show with Jon Stewart, would be interested in hiring Jeff. Jeff has shown he has vast experience in fake news.
  •  It made sense to me, but a different conclusion. (none)
    I believe Gannon was simply lying.

    I read this report and I see pseudo-reporter Gannon as a guy who, once he's been told (in the establishment press) that said memo exists, he believes it... it corroborates his story... it is consistent with his world view.

    So much so that he moves away from any conjecture on the memo, and simply claims that it does exist, and says exactly what Novak, etc, claim it says.

    In any event, I have no proof of this, but Gannon seems like the kind of fish that believes whats in the paper if it supports his view.

    You are, aren't you, insinuating the the WH and Gannon coordinated?  That implies some contact.

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