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I heard about this on NPR this morning, and couldn't find a diary discussing it directly.

Ahmed Abu-Ali, a US citizen, was arrested in Saudi Arabia while he was taking exams (not sure which, sorry).  It is alleged that he was arrested at the behest of the USA, as a suspected terrorist.  Since then, he has been questioned by the FBI and there is substantial evidence that he has been tortured, including having his fingernails ripped out.

Amnesty press release

Continued below the break.

Since the US was complicit in his arrest and he's a US citizen, his family has sued in US courts for his release.  The US government's defense is that the courts have no jurisdiction over foreign countries.  However, in a significant judgement, the judge recently (yesterday, maybe, but I can't find a reference) ruled that this defence was far too sweeping, as the government could then have any citizen arrested by a foreign country and held without legal rights, a breach of the constitution.  However, his ruling was that the DOJ (?) needs to turn over relevant papers (it doesn't deny the allegations of US involvement in arrest/interrogation).  The DOJ has been stalling, asking for delays.  However, it has now, apparently, asked Saudi Arabia to indict him or return him to the US.

Some more info on the case

So, it's not just foreigners being "rendered" to other countries and their torture being outsourced - it seems to be happening to US citizens too.

Sorry for the uncertainties - I was driving and didn't catch all the details.  But, I felt that this gross abuse of rights was worthy of a diary.  Hopefully it adds to all the great work being written by PlutoniumPage and SusanHu.

Originally posted to BemusedBrit on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 05:46 AM PST.

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  •  Thank you! (none)
    I blogged on that NPR story myself this morning, but I couldn't find a single thing online to back up what I remembered. At least you've got some things to link to.

    Michael
    "Je ne regrette rien" -- Edith Piaf
    Now let's take our country back!

    by musing85 on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 06:46:13 AM PST

    •  Thanks (none)
      You remember a good point that I missed - the judge making the ruling was a conservative Bush appointee.
      Nice blog, BTW.
      •  You're welcome (none)
        I thought that bit was one of the keys to the story. They couldn't very well trot out the "activist judge" canard when the judge in question was one of their own appointees. I'm just a little disappointed (OK, more than a little: a lot) that he caved and let them bring in the secret evidence. My guess is that the family will get a writ of certiorari from the Supreme Court, who will once again slap down the Shrubbery for overstepping its bounds. You'd think they'd have learned by now, after Hamdi and Rasul and all the rest. Heck, even the average puppy only has to be whacked with a rolled-up newspaper copy of the Constitution three or four times before he learns not to pee on the carpet.

        Michael
        "Je ne regrette rien" -- Edith Piaf
        Now let's take our country back!

        by musing85 on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:41:12 AM PST

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  •  Cross linking diaries (none)
    BemusedBrit was kind enough to comment on a diary I posted on this same subject after his. Please recommend either his or mine and keep this issue in front of Kossaks for at least a little while longer than a fleeting moment on the Recent Diaries list.
    Thanks.

    Many possibilities are open to you - work a little harder.

    by Rainman on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 11:18:42 AM PST

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