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Arizona republicans tend to be pretty hard-core wingers, but this just makes my blood boil:
Four Republicans united Thursday to kill legislation to say that the penalty for raping a spouse should be the same as assaulting anyone else.

The vote of the House Committee on Human Services came after foes said they feared boosting the penalty would provide incentives for a wife to charge rape.

"That's going to be much more likely to happen in a scenario where two people are normally having sexual relations and then, if one person decides for whatever reason that they would like to attack the other person this is a very serious way to get it done," said Rep. Mark Anderson, R-Mesa.


Right now, the penalty for rape in Arizona is up to 15 years in jail.  But if you happen to be married to the person you rape, the harshest sentence you can get is 18 months in prison!  And the judge can, if s/he wants, treat the crime as a misdemeanor and order the rapist to undergo counseling.

The bill passed the state senate by a 29-1 vote, but now it appears dead in the house of representatives.

Here's what another misogynistic GOP represenative had to say:

"When you enter into a marriage, you enter into a contract for all sorts of different things with your spouse," he said. And that, he said, includes of sex.

Nichols said those benefits "need to be eliminated" if someone is getting a divorce. But short of that, he said it is wrong to impose this kind of penalty when a wife charges rape.

"Why should we take it to a Class 2 felony and put a husband away who's been a good husband for however many years ... based off of something that was OK in a marriage up until that point?"


I'm right with you, Nichols.  In fact, let's take it a step further.  If someone who's been a good husband for years decide to kill his wife, why should it even be a crime?  Aren't women the property of their husbands?

And a few facts (from Sexual Assault Services at George Mason University)

  • Eighty-two percent of women raped or sexually assaulted in 1992-93 by a lone offender were victimized by a spouse, ex-spouse, partner, friend, acquaintance or relative. (Bachman and Saltzman, 1995)
  • It is estimated that one out of every seven married women has been forced to have sex with her husband. (Rape in Marriage, Russell, D., 1990)
  • Spousal rape is often more violent and repetitive than other rape, and it is less commonly reported. (Hampton, 1995)

Originally posted to Scott in NAZ on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 09:53 AM PST.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Shocking. (4.00)
    Rape is rape.  It is about power and violence in all its contexts.
  •  In minds of hardcore, right wing Bible believers (4.00)
    ... it is impossible for a husband to be accused of raping a wife.

    Just another piece of property, baby...

    •  It's the ownership society (none)
      Baby, you belong to me.

      I have pesonally witnessed situations like this and once helped a friend of a friend escape such a situation. It was before the laws were mostly changed to legal equality. These clowns want the laws to return to the year 1900--in all things. White propertied males is their ideal empowered citizen class.

      Rolfyboy6 -Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain

      by Rolfyboy6 on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 10:12:41 AM PST

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  •  Most rape (none)
    occurs with people who are known to the victim.

    This is just absurd, Christian Reconstructionist bs.

  •  And... (4.00)
    If you take this idiotic logic further it says that rape is merely sex so rape shouldn't be illegal.  Assholes.

    And like my sister said, marriage is a legal contract, so does your roofer get to bone you just because you signed his contract?

  •  Hopelessly lost (4.00)
    He doesn't even realize that marriage isn't about signing up for sex.  He thinks it's a contract for the husband to do "normal" things until the wife gets a bee up her butt about it and cries "rape!"

    He reveals a mentality that is almost misogynist and I don't use that word lightly. To him women are always doing things to men, and he's not gonna make it easier for them.  Eve made Adam eat that apple, poor Adam.  Mr. Smith raped Mrs. Smith, but it was the "normal" things you sign up for when you get married, poor Mr. Smith.

    "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine

    by Cathy on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 10:00:46 AM PST

    •  In the early Christian church (none)
      Back in the day, when everyone was still Roman, Christian married Christian men and women were encouraged to not have sex at all.  Also, just to mention it, before there was a well defined job of "priest," women were allowed to do whatever church job was needed, no fuss.
    •  Almost a misogynist? (none)
      I have no problem attaching that label to him.

      The only way to fight this would be to focus on the cases in question and describe the violations in detail. Then you have a counter to the "she was his wife" argument if you can spell out the exact nature of the abusive treatment.

      This is one more chapter in the long struggle to get legislators, police, and the courts to consider rape seriously. S

      There is a certain providence in the fall of a sparrow

      by mrblifil on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 10:08:38 AM PST

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  •  Their logic doesn't even make sense (4.00)
    Wouldn't raising the penalty associated with the crime make people LESS likely to file false reports?      

    And anyway, isn't the issue of false reporting ENTIRELY separate from the issue of appropriate punishment?  I mean, you can falsely accuse ANYONE of ANY crime, why don't we lower all the punishments for everything just in case someone is falsely accused?  I wonder how Arizona republicans feel about American citizens who are falsely accused of being terrorists?  Maybe you should just go to counciling if you're convicted of robbing a convenience store.  After all, some crazy woman might be making stuff up to punish you!  How about 18 months for murder?  Kidnapping?  Torture?!  After all, those crazy women will say ANYTHING!

    Their reasoning is idiotic.  These fuckers are anti-woman, plain and simple.  

  •  As an attorney for domestic violence victims (none)
    I can report that every single one of my clients was, at some point, violently raped by their partner. Every single one. Sexual abuse and domestic violence go hand in hand because they are both about the same issues: power and control.

    The AZ Republicans need some serious educating. Perhaps they should have to attend a 40-hour domestic violence training class like all social workers in IL have to.

  •  Arizona Republicans (none)
    Have given Arizona Democrats a very, very ugly issue to run on in the next election.
  •  Barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen (none)
    Ah, before you know it, we'll have those damn liberal mided women back to being barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, where they belong.

    Arizona first, the whole south next. We got's 40 years of rogue liberal judges laws to change. C'mon Billy Bob, get your wife over hear, I'm hungry. You still letin her wear shoes?

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