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Time Poll. 3/22-24. MoE 3%.
Do you have a generally favorable or unfavorable opinion of the following?

Ann Coulter

Favorable 11%
Unfavorable 9
Don't know/Never heard of 79

I'd venture to say that 100 percent of this site's readers know who Anthrax is.

Of course, in the same poll, 25 percent of respondents had never heard of Condi Rice (54/20/25).

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:28 PM PST.

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  •  I can't believe (4.00)
    she has an 11% favorable!! That's scary!
  •  that's right (4.00)
    we ride a tsunami of stupid in the borrowed craft of the founders.
    •  Damn skippy! (none)
      A challenge for all of you out there:

      Estimate the responses to the following poll question:

      How many of you can name more than five "American Idol" contestants?

      This is why we are dying.  BushCo is just taking advantage of it, maybe driving it a little faster.

    •  It's not surprising (none)
      Americans' ignorance of our own politics is surpassed only by our ignorance of rudimentary science.

      I remember a survey of adults (18 or over) about 15 years ago that asked, "Does the Earth go around the Sun, or the Sun around the Earth?"

      20% of American adults couldn't answer the question correctly. And that was 15 years ago. Things have only gotten worse.

      "Animals are my friends--and I don't eat my friends." (G.B. Shaw) Click to read the 'Union'

      by Hudson on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:56:54 PM PST

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      •   Read it and weep (4.00)
        Here's even more recent evidence, from the California Academy of Sciences:

        SAN FRANCISCO (April 24, 2001) -- [...] While crucial social, economic, and health issues now facing the public are being profoundly influenced by new scientific research, a startling number of Americans cannot answer even basic scientific questions:

        • More than half of all American adults (53%) do not know that the Earth goes around the Sun once a year.

        • Nearly half (48%) do not have a sense of what percentage of the Earth's surface is covered by water.

        • And 42% can't answer correctly when asked if the earliest humans lived at the same time as dinosaurs.

        Nearly 1 in 5 people (19%) couldn't answer any of these questions correctly. Even college graduates did not fare well, just over a third (35%) were able to respond correctly to all three questions.

        "Animals are my friends--and I don't eat my friends." (G.B. Shaw) Click to read the 'Union'

        by Hudson on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:06:25 PM PST

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        •  Weeping Already! (none)
          Did anyone see the Lerher NewsHour tonight?  There was a scary segment on science in the classroom and current attacks on science.  One man who is creating a Christian museum of science (not to be confused with a Christian Science museum) to show how dinosaurs lived at the same time as people.  I am not joking.  So, school children can come and learn the "truth" about the real age of the earth, etc.

          Why I bring up this frightening story is in connection to the general state of knowledge about history.  I teach college (humanities) and I am consistently amazed by how little students know about general science (you know, the stuff every high school graduate should now).

          I was enraged a few months back when a Georgia county tried to put stickers on their science books to the effect that "Evolution is a theory, not a fact."  They don't even know what a theory is (in the scientific sense).  

          As an educator and a liberal minded person, it chaps my lips (as my father would say) that the children of the middle, working, and underlass will not receive sound science education while the children of the wealthy will go to private prep schools where you can bet dollars to donuts that they're not learning "intelligent design" or "creation science."  Nope, they're learning hard science so they attend elite universities.

          Sorry but I had to get that off my chest.

          In moments of extreme cynicism, however, I admit to toying with the idea that teaching religion in school science classrooms isn't really so bad.  After all, it's not like they're actually going to learn science . . . (this is sarcasm)

          Wake me when it's over.

          by floridaprof on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 07:23:40 PM PST

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          •  Yes (none)
            I saw it. Unbelievable! It was so scary watching those kids and thinking how will we ever compete in the world market and be this stupid. You are right about the gulf in education between the rich and poor. Damn!
            •  Jeb Bush and Class Size Amendment (none)
              Here in Florida we passed an amendment requiring reduction in class sizes over the next several years.  Jeb has tried everything to get voters to repeal it - cajoling, lying, outright scaring voters with scenarios of a budget implosion.

              My favorite reason Jeb gives for rolling back the class size amendment is that there is no evidence that smaller classes lead to increased learning.  Now, to me, this is intuitive because smaller class size means each student will get a little bit more individualized attention.

              Despite Jeb's rejection of class size as a factor in learning, I understand that his kids attended a private school in Miami with something like an 8:1 student/teacher ratio.
              To me, this is pretty strong evidence that Jeb does indeed believe that smaller class size leads to increased learning.

              Now, if I can only find out if that private prep school teaches creation science . . .

              Wake me when it's over.

              by floridaprof on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 08:17:59 PM PST

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              •  Jeb's Kids Schools (none)
                I would check to see if they go to Miami Country Day.. VERY PRIVATE....  I had a boss who sent one of his kids there.  Great Academics Program.. sad to say Miami-Dade Public schools are a mess.
      •  Read it and weep (4.00)
        Wait, there's still more, this from the Associated Press in 2002:

        A survey of 1,574 adults found that 60 percent agreed or strongly agreed that some people possess psychic powers or extrasensory perception, a premise that is generally discarded as unproven by most scientists.

        Although 57 percent of those surveyed disagreed that UFOs came to Earth bearing aliens, about 30 percent believe that some reported objects in the sky are really space vehicles from other civilizations.

        The scientific validity of astrology -- the belief that an alignment of the planets can affect events on Earth -- is rejected by 60 percent of Americans, as is the idea that some numbers are lucky while others are not.

        Only rejected by 60 percent? Yeow.

        "Animals are my friends--and I don't eat my friends." (G.B. Shaw) Click to read the 'Union'

        by Hudson on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:11:06 PM PST

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      •  Whelp, to be technical... (none)
        ... the answer is both.  Since both the Earth and the Sun have mass, the Newtonian (and relative) physics equations show that they pull on each other, and hence, go around each other.

        Sure, the mass of the Sun is much larger, and so the pull is stronger.  However, it isn't 100% accurate to say that the Earth revolves around the Sun... in fact, they're both whizzing through space pulling on each other (as are the other planets, the belts, and assorted space junk).

      •  You know we're weird (none)
        How many people can name their own state's U.S. senators let alone ones from other states?

        What color are your pajamas?

        by Unstable Isotope on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:24:51 PM PST

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        •  I try every damn day to forget who my senators are (none)
          I'm trying to forget.  I can put Burr out of my mind, and pretend he doesn't exist.  But it's harder to forget that sickly sweet phoney, Elizabeth "do-nothing" Dole. And, her hubby's viagra endorsements make it even worse.  Ignorance can really be bliss.
      •  You're telling me (none)
        that the earth actually goes around the sun?  Come on!  Give me a break! It rises in the east and sets in the West. That means it goes round the earth.  Anybody with any common sense knows that.  What is it with these perfessers?
  •  What's really scary (none)
    Is are you telling me that the biggest liar on the planet has a 54% approval rating? She called this "an historical document":

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  •  That's incredible. (none)
    I would have never have guessed that 79% don't know who she is.
    •  I find that a great relief. (4.00)
      If you have to keep people in ignorance, then being ignorant of A.C. is a blessing.

      When I talk about her, I ask if people know who she is.  If they do, I continue talking.  If they don't, I stop.  If they don't know, they aren't missing anything and I find it very hard to describe her in neutral terms.  I dare anyone to try!

      •  Disagree. (3.80)
        100% of the American public should be forced to read what this administration supports and enables.

        Ann Coulter is not an independent pundit she has her script written for her.

        And the fact that 70+% of Americans haven't heard of her is scarier than the 11% of the Nazis that agree with her.

        •  Right, and if you follow politics... (none)
          at least fairly often, you should have heard of her somehow.  This poll just shows how many people don't follow politics fairly often/at all.
          •  And if you don't follow politics (4.00)
            You are a traitor.

            Living a selfish life free of the responsibility you have to your community to be informed is treasonous IMO.

            Politics is not a game you can choose to play, or not, it is life.

            The status quo is political. Apathy is a political statement.

            Lefties give the apolitical way to much slack.

            They are as much to blame for the state of affairs as the fundies are.

            •  Is this sarcasm? (none)
              Because basically no, in America Politics is not 'life.'  It is a mostly trivial and irrelevant game that has little impact on much that actually matters.
              •  I'm not sure how to take this reply (none)
                So I'll ask before I respond.

                Do you agree that politics is 'life' and should be participated in by 100% of the population?

                •  Even babies? nt (none)

                  "The world is a church and life is its service." Norman Andrews

                  by Bionic on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:07:00 PM PST

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                •  uh...no (none)
                  Politics in America is a nearly meaningless game.  In real terms the difference between the policies I favor and the policies I abhor is irrelevant.

                  So...Bush (wrongly) invaded Iraq, and what, 200k people have died, but Clinton criminally ignored the actual genocide in Rawanda, and 1-2 million people died.

                  Wow!  Big fucking difference!  It is 'obvious' that Clinton was better.

                  And sure, the culture war is annoying, but really, so fucking what.

                  Oh...and under the republicans, certain large businesses have been unjustly enriched at the expense of the rest of America.  And under democrats, well, the group of businesses unjustly enriched is different.

                  But, uh...how does that compare with things that we do in life that actually matter?

                  •  They get away with it (4.00)
                    Because a majority of people aren't paying attention.

                    With an attitude like you just expressed what are you doing on Kos?

                    Are you here just to whine about how bad it is?

                    If everyone was involved in there own communities elected officials wouldn't get away with 5% of the things they do.

                    And finally, on 9/11 politics seemed to matter.

                    •  huh? (none)
                      "If everyone was involved in there own communities elected officials wouldn't get away with 5% of the things they do."

                      It is my belief that even when you fully inform people that most people don't care all that much about most of the 'issues,' and frankly, they shouldn't.

                      And when people do actually care, they are split in their beliefs.  

                      As for 9/11...there should be a 9/11 rule.  It is amusing that liberals are just as quick to use 9/11 as are the conservatives.

                      •  Are you being obtuse purposely? (none)
                        I'm not going to dignify your contemptible attitude with a response.

                        I wonder if you have a vested interest in keeping your countrymen ignorant.

                        Please give ONE good reason Americans shouldn't care about politics or issues that involve their communities.

                        •  Because the Dems and Reps (none)
                          are in bed with each other...there, I said it.

                          I'm registered independent and it's probably not a popular thought, but were Cobb, Badnarik or any other "third party" candidate allowed to debate with Baghdad Bush and Hairy Kerry?  I was pretty incensed at the whole debate format, they marginalized anybody but D and R.

                          I know it's not a popular thought, especially on a democratic board like Kos is, but it does answer your question....

                          Send us your used sandals and shoes and we'll help out other people.

                          by quartzite on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 09:17:35 AM PST

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                  •  asdf (4.00)
                    I was lazily lurking around, hadn't even logged on when I read this exchange. I could not let it go. Ingnorance is not a viable excuse. Politics is much more than who belongs to what party, or your loyalty to said party. Politics is and always has been the prime mover of society.

                    Movements that begin on the street like the civil rights movement stagnate without action by the political machine working in the background. It is a vital, but sometimes invisable part of all that gets done. Sometimes what gets done is for the worst and you didn't care. You weren't watching and now you have to live with it.

                    The culture war is more than annoying, it threatens us at every turn. It robs our children of a real education, it censors our entertainment, it dictates our rights. And that's just for starters.

                    Not everyone is made to be a political operative. But anyone can pay attention. It's not hard, that's what we're doing here.

                  •  Huh? (none)
                    "But, uh...how does that compare with things that we do in life that actually matter?"

                    I think defending legalized abortion, equal rights for minorities, and so forth certainly matter. Do you think they don't matter? Who don't they matter to?

                    The Shapeshifter's Blog -- Politics, Philosophy, and Madness!

                    by Shapeshifter on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 08:08:57 PM PST

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              •  Right... (4.00)
                I mean, it's not like political maneuvering could...

                1. Ship your son or daughter off to die in an unnecessary war...
                2. Shift the tax burden from the rich onto the middle class...
                3. Prevent you from watching Sex and the City on cable TV while making sure your neighbor can own assault weapons...
                4. Force your children to recite Christian prayers in school, even if they're not Christians...
                5. Prevent you from defaulting on creditors, even if you're a medically incapactated veteran of the Iraq war, while those who are rich enough to keep their assets in protection trusts can do so any day of the week...
                6. Pump enough mercury into your children to damage their brains because doing otherwise is unappealing to certain corporations...

                Yep, you said it. Not much impact at all.
    •  We're Out of Touch (none)
      We do live in a different world. It's why we are so bad at predicting elections. From Dean to Kerry, we're just way out of touch with the minds of average American voters.
      •  that we are (none)
        We read. And we think. And most of all, we draw logical conclusions.

        I find the number of Americans who can't work out a problem (any kind of problem) amazing. How do they expect to get anywhere if they can't figure out how to do something without somebody giving them detailed instructions?

        Life doesn't come with instructions.

    •  79% Don't know who Coulter is.. (none)
      I don't own a TV and have never seen or heard Ann Coulter. I do read and "know her" (NOT in the Biblical sense!!") through articles and editorials. It does my heart good to know that 79% of the population, of which a vast majority watch TV, don't know who she is. I refrain from considering what they are aware of,  though. That is probably pretty frightening.

      The tragedy of science, a beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact. T. H. Huxley

      by realalaskan on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:32:39 PM PST

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  •  11% of those polled are nutcases (none)
    Or got her confused with someone else.

    "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building." --Ann "Cuckoo" Coulter
    Source

    "Minimize our defensive posture, maximize our offensive posture."--Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)

    by Newsie8200 on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:31:02 PM PST

  •  DK <> "Never heard of" (none)
    A good chunk of that 25% who say "don't know or never heard of" may simply be saying, "Yeah, I hear good and bad about Rice. I don't know enough to praise or condemn her."

    I've got blisters on my fingers!

    by Elwood Dowd on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:31:02 PM PST

    •  Good heavens, I sure hope so N/t (none)
    •  Don't be too sure! (none)

      Not everyone pays attention to politics. If you've ever watched Jaywalking on the Tonight Show you can be scared by how little some know about the federal government. This was brought home to me in spades in October of 1996 when I had someone over, and on the television was Bob Dole speaking at a campaign event.

      My friend asked, "Is that the President?"
      I replied, "No, it's Bob Dole."
      My friend looked at me and in all seriousness asked, "Who's he?"
      I wept.

  •  The lost 25% (none)
    I'd wager they haven't heard of Dick Cheney either.
  •  Non-voters (none)
    If they didn't attempt to screen for non-voters, then I wouldn't be surprised at all.

    Almost half of the country couldn't be bothered on an opinion on Bush v. Gore.  You think they care about some shrill washed-up hag?

    And that 2% fav/unfav gap is the same as the 2% Bush/Kerry gap.

  •  I have never (4.00)
    1. Read anything by her
    2. Seen her on tv
    3. Heard her on radio

    But I've read enough about her to know that I don't care what she thinks, writes, or says.

    I wonder why so many of us here elevate her to undeserved prominence?

    Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

    by willyr on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:33:11 PM PST

    •  If you ever did 1 of the 3 you listed, you'd know (4.00)
      She is the definition of evil.

      The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs and ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was committed.

      by sgilman on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:37:30 PM PST

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    •  I've Tried (none)
      Honestly, I've tried to read something by her, and I have tried to watch her on tv.  I just don't have the stomach.

      Her books are sold in massive quantities.

      •  Bought by whom? (none)
        Republican think tanks who buy in bulk to pad her sales and supposedly bolster their worldview?
        •  I worked at BN for a year... (4.00)
          around the time Slander came out.  I sold exactly one copy.  And the customer specifically asked for it, and managed to form her question in a way that bashed Hillary Clinton.  You could tell she was one of those people just angry at the world, and her sheer demeanor gave me secondhand depression.

          On a lighter note, this reminds me of something my dad told me.  He was in BN once, and saw a couple of redneck-lookin' guys come in the door.  One of them looks at the other and says (fairly loudly) "Y'know, I bet there ain't nothin' but Democrats in here!"

          In Afghanistan, they call them the Taliban. Here, we call them Republicans

          by ragnark on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:48:07 PM PST

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        •  my uncle ACTUALLY had a copy of her book (4.00)
          I started reading it when I visited over Xmas. At first I was pissed at her but after a while I just had to laugh. Her caricature of what a liberal is like is ludicrous. My only real worry is that people who have never in their lives met a real liberal will read that and think it is true.

          Since then I've been working on making sure I educate my republican relatives about what a REAL liberal thinks. I'm not trying to change their minds - just say "hey, when you think of liberals think of me, your cool, smart, engineer niece who works for a DoD contractor". I figure it's a start.

      •  i've heard that her books are bought up in mass (none)
        quantities and are sold very cheaply to give the illusion of big sales. (Not just her books--others as well by Regnery Press or whatever it is.)
        •  I'm Up in Mass. and we (4.00)
          don't buy her books here.

          ;o)

          Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

          by willyr on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:11:18 PM PST

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          •  I'm up in Mass and we don't buy (none)
            her books en masse. In fact, I turn them backwards when I see them in the store. That's my ineffective gesture.
            •  You too?? (none)
              I was in an airport bookstore the other day, and just happened to see Hannity's book prominently displayed in several places. Good consumer that I am, I picked up several copies and looked them over and put them back so the faces on the covers kissed. I see this as a public service.

              Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

              by willyr on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 10:30:57 AM PST

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        •  I hope you're right n/t (none)
        •  Yes, there's something (none)
          in some booklists (a little dagger) that can appear by a bestsellers title which indicates a large quantity bought in bulk, in an unusual way (I assume they don't mean by a big book chain).  I forgot where I read this, maybe David Brock's Blinded by the Right?

          What color are your pajamas?

          by Unstable Isotope on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:35:36 PM PST

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        •  Hmmm (none)
          Lots of right-wing political websites tend to have ads for some book club that says something along the line of "3 books for a dollar".  Coutler, Rush, Hannity, that type of authors.  I bet this is how they do it.

          Of course, maybe they work like the Scientologists and simply purchase the books at retail en masse to drive them up on the sales charts.

    •  Exactly (4.00)
      One of the Right's greatest tools is the trivialization of liberal ideas, thinkers, and movements. They casually dismiss us as irrelevent, and that overall attitude has seeped into American pop culture.

      It seems to me a little trivialization of the right-wing would go a long way around here. That's what Coulter is: trivial.

      11%...I would be money that at least 11% of the US population cannot find more than five American states on a map.  

      •  Americans have states? (4.00)
        I agree with all of the comments above. Coulter and her ilk get far too much credit from people like us for being "influential." She is part of the noise machine that only the noise is listening to.

        Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

        by willyr on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:50:36 PM PST

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      •  Coulter is trite and inconsequential. (4.00)
        Like most of the blowhard wingnut hacks, Coulter envisions herself as a major player,a mover and shaker, important to the success of the wingnut cause. But she, like most of the rest of them, don't realize that they are expendable, that they are on the working end, (the "dog end") of the leash, not the handler end. They are the "fodder" not the "cannon".

        Like that other notorious attack dog DeLay, she will self-destruct, and her replacement, (I'd guess Laura Ingraham), will be leashed up to carry on the assault.

        •  I think she says the outrageous stuff (none)
          to get attention and it's gotten her career doing nothing useful at all. I think Michelle Malkin studied her and said, "Hey I can do that." You do the opposite of what everyone would expect (like George Constanza) and make sure it's controversial. I think a lot of people decided to ride on the coattails of the xenophobic crapulence of the wingnuts. It's a good way to make money, get invited to parties, and never do a useful thing in your life, if you like that kind of thing.
    •  If it wasn't for this site (none)
      She would have been long erased from my memory as well. We really need to face the facts. Without indignant liberals, Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter would cease to exist. These people thrive on controversy and offer absolutely no content.

      We don't go out and hire journalists and propagandize and lie and put people on payroll so that they'll say what you want. - Donald Rumsfeld

      by The past is over on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:04:30 PM PST

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      •  The thing about Ann, though, is (none)
        that she's different from the others. She's psychotic. It's fascinating to watch the mad darting of her eyes, the clenching of her face. Maybe we should show pity instead of contempt.
        •  She exists because (none)
          her benefactors see her as a useful tool. A distraction that can be called upon, whenever and wherever it is needed. By reacting to her we are falling into their net. Sure it's fun to point at her and try to make her out to be the poster child for all that is wrong with the Republicans, but it is they who have the last laugh because the only people that pay attention to her are the people who spend their free time trying to expose Republican crimes. The more they can get us to look at the crazy sea hag, the more cover they have for their misdeeds.

          We don't go out and hire journalists and propagandize and lie and put people on payroll so that they'll say what you want. - Donald Rumsfeld

          by The past is over on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:46:21 PM PST

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      •  So you think... (none)
        That without the hard left there would be no hard right?

        So all this neo-con bullshit is 'indignant liberals' fault?

        Sorry if I missed the </sarcasm>

      •  nah, she is part of psycho-social experiment (none)
        paid for and designed by a mad scientist in Stanford University, who wants to prove that if you beat up and torture people mentally and emotionally long enough, they actually get mad and could do horrific things to a tall blond lady's man ... we are almost there to prove the prof's thesis... beware ... you might regret having been part of the experiment.

        Human life should be governed by truth, freedom, justice and love.

        by mimi on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:02:23 PM PST

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  •  Blessed, blessed, lucky 79% (4.00)
    who don't know who she is. I used to be that way once upon a time . . .
    •  half an inch a water... (4.00)
      I was sittin' in the bathtub, countin' my toes
      When the radiator broke... the water all froze
      I got stuck in the ice without my clothes
      Naked as the eyes of a clown.

      I was crying ice cubes, hoping I'd croke
      When the sun came through the window... the ice all broke
      I stood up and laughed... thought it was a joke.
      That's the way the world goes `round.

      That's the way the world goes `round
      You're up one day... the next you're down
      It's a half an inch a water and ya think you're gonna drown.
      That's the way the world goes `round.


      John Prine

      "There is no such thing as a weird human being. It's just that some people require more understanding than others." - Tom Robbins

      by SteveK on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:44:35 PM PST

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    •  Damn Daily Kos! (none)
      It warps your mind.  I think I'm perpetual outrage overload now.  (Sometimes, ignorance really is bliss.)

      What color are your pajamas?

      by Unstable Isotope on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:39:08 PM PST

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  •  They must be "likely voters" (none)
    It does not surprise me...anyone that has ever seen "Jay Walking" on the Tonight Show (or heard the Howard Stern show, from which it was stolen) knows there are some freaking oblivious people out there.

    But the poll does show that Ann is buying a lot of her own books...LOL...

    TexasDemocrat http://www.whereisosama.com

    by TexasDemocrat on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:35:04 PM PST

  •  That's unbelieveable! (none)
    Everyone I know can't stand her!

    The only second term dubya deserves is 20 to life!

    by Street Kid on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:38:15 PM PST

  •  kos... (none)
    put up a poll and find out...

    now - watch this drive.

    by jmelli on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:38:36 PM PST

  •  Wow! (none)
    That's encouraging that 79% have no clue who the battleaxe is.

    I wish I didn't.

  •  "I want to live in a Coulter free world (none)
    I could be happy
    the rest of my life
    in a Coulter free world."

    (apologies in advance to Neil Young)

    Freedom does not march.

    by ex republican on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:39:41 PM PST

  •  wait for it (none)
    Can you imagine the spin ann 'they should bomb the NYT' coultergeist is gonna put on these numbers. eesh.
  •  If I had the money, (4.00)
    I'd fund a poll with "ridiculous" questions just to make the point that there are a lot of idiots out there. I'd ask questions like:

    "If president Bush murdered his wife, should he be removed from office?"
    "Should the US have fought in the revolutionary war?"
    "Would you vote for a candidate who advocated slavery?"
    "Do you approve or disapprove of the job God is doing?"
    "Should America consider declaring war against the agressive neutrality of Switzerland?"

    My guess is you'd have amazingly high percentages of people who answered those types of questions "wrong"...i.e.:

    "A new Gallup survey released today showed that 14% of Americans think the USA should change it's name to 'FUNKSYLVANIA'."

    You have reached a non-working signature

    by PBJ Diddy on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:40:06 PM PST

    •  ANN: Mini skirts and Mini thoughts (4.00)
      I have long taken offense to the aggressive nature of swiss neutrality and of course, God is doing a fantastic job, it's the satanic liberals that off set his good deeds
    •  Funksylvania (none)
      Dude, I'd vote to change our name to that! It's so much less lame than the current one. We should have a one-word name. Countries that have better names than we do:

      Canada
      Mexico
      Australia
      France
      Spain
      Italy
      ...and the list goes on.

    •  It's been done (none)
      on occasion. I remember hearing about some humor magazine writing to various members of Congress asking for their comments on US policy re: ethnic cleansing in Freedonia. For those people who are sadly lacking in knowledge of classic movies, Freedonia is the (fictional) country featured in the Marx Brothers farce Duck Soup. Many Congressmen actually tried to give a substansive answer.

      This of course brings to mind the classic Mark Twain quote: "Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

      -dms

  •  Who? Ann Coulter? (4.00)
    Wasn't she Hitler's other mistress? And didn't she then take up with Joe McCarthy and then Pinochet?

    Will she an Michelle Malkin wind up sharing a room at an overcrowded wingnut facility for the criminally insane?

  •  A direct reflection of (none)
    cable news viewership.  More people live in metro Birmingham, AL than will watch Larry King tonight.

    Stop and think what wonderful news this is, and what opportunities augur.  Perhaps if the we don't mention cable news, it will vanish.

  •  Lucky dogs (none)
    Oh to be in the 79%.

    Ignorance is bliss.

  •  how much does it cost to do a regional survey? (none)
    or a national one?  someone here surely knows.  how do you buy a poll?

    Politics: it's not just for Wall Street

    by mediaprisoner on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:47:33 PM PST

    •  coulter (none)
      Maybe this is good news of a sort.  Not enough people are watching FOX to know who she is.

      I think Americans are mostly clueless when it comes to politics.

      •  sad (none)
        i think most americans are clueless to more than just politics.  their overall cluelessness leads to, certainly, politicians taking extravagant advantage of them, but i dont think it's fair to contain their lack of clues to the politcal realm.
      •  How is this at all relevant to (4.00)
        how tuned in Americans are to politics? I know plenty of educated, informed and concerned people who have never heard of Coulter because they get their news from the NYT and The Economist, not the TV. How is that bad? More power to them for not getting suckered into watching a lot of crapola.

        I only know about Coulter from reading liberal blogs. Whatever media outlet she's on is just one I never see. And yes, I do know who Condi Rice is.

  •  RE: Dat shit you just said !!!! (none)
    Coulter:Probably more identifiable as the odious overlord of the multi-headed blonde fascist media
    she-monster. (Dat BEEYATCH-for short )
  •  Biggest Problem facing the left (4.00)
    If you can run on lies and disinformation and win. If it is a complex idea or issue we start out in the whole.

    Appathy is such a pandemic in our country. Overworked and to busy to care.

    Lots of people see the world in Black and White. It is mostly just shades of grey.

    by Davinci on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 04:49:57 PM PST

    •  Taking a bit more care.... (3.00)
      Sorry to nitpick, but I feel your point gets diluted when there are errors in such a short section:
      1. we start out in the whole
      2. Appathy
      3. Overworked and to busy
      •  Yes thanks (none)
        I could have made it much more clear.

        Guess that is what happens when you type off the cuff in a rough draft style.

        Thanks for the feedback everyone needs reminding from time to time.

        Lots of people see the world in Black and White. It is mostly just shades of grey.

        by Davinci on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:47:28 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Is she the one being starved to death in Florida? (4.00)
    Wouldn't we be so lucky ...

    Seriously - She just needs to pose nude or get a hot poster of her washing a car or something out there so the common people can get to know her.  Maybe she can pose for Guns and Ammo in a cammo fatigue bikini?

    My advice - she should have a wardrobe malfunction at the next conservative baby-eat-a-thon.  That would do it for me.

  •  I have NO idea how to cope with this any more (4.00)
    emigration seems the only solution.

    When school boards are openly declaring:

    "We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture," he said, adding that the school board's declaration is just a first step.

    Link

    Sometimes you've gotta suspect that the battle is lost :(

  •  So (4.00)
    So, if 79% of Americans have never heard of Ann Coulter...

    ...why do people in the blogosphere waste so much talking about her?  

    Wouldn't it be preferable to spend our time talking and arguing about people that most Americans have actually heard of?  

    We must not let them bust our reformist groove. (k9disc) NY-25

    by NYCO on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:00:18 PM PST

    •  Good point (none)
      The question is who is that?

      Lots of people see the world in Black and White. It is mostly just shades of grey.

      by Davinci on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:01:45 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  talking about *people* (none)
      is the problem.

      We have allowed politics and political discourse  to be about people and personalities rather than about ideas.

      The Republicans and their handlers are masters at this. They killed off Dean by lying about his temperament and "the scream," rather than addressing the ideas he was advocating. They killed off Kerry by making the contest between a "folksy" Bush and a remote and elite Kerry.

      We need to find a way to focus on the ideas and principles and values that Americans care about, and not allow ourselves to get diverted into the politics of personality.

      Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

      by willyr on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:37:28 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  apropos (none)
        While we need to (and should) be talking about ideas, the truth is that many people relate on a visecral level much more easily to concrete individuals.  That doesn't mean we can't talk about progressive values: health care has a human face, the fallen war dead have faces, the victims of hunger have human faces (the same can't be said for Ann Coulter).  I still agree with your basic point.
  •  The problem... (none)
    ...with the poll, they should have used her better known desigantion, vile skank bitch.

    Be the creature. (But not a Republican.)

    by boran2 on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:02:16 PM PST

  •  uhhh... hmmm... well... (none)
    "I'd venture to say that 100 percent of this site's readers know who Anthrax is." no, i don't and even after i searched the site, i still don't... you're down to 99.998%...

    "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

    by profmarcus on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:04:15 PM PST

  •  Honestly: why should anyone have heard of her? (none)
    In a just world, the percentage of people who have never heard of that insane skank would be 100%.

    For relaxing times...make it Suntory time.

    by Schadenfreude on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:04:30 PM PST

  •  Link? (none)
    Does anyone have a link to the complete Time poll results?
  •  The Rude Pundit had some nice things to say about (none)
    Ann
  •  The problem with Anthrax. (none)
    The problem with Anthrax isn't whether or not you know it's name, but whether you've been exposed to it at all.

    The public might not recognize her name, but they have more than likely (via Fox) been exposed to her vitriol, which is often disguised as undisputed fact.

    mrC

  •  My five year old niece said . . . (none)
    I asked her, "do you know who is the president?"
    She said, "George Bush."
    I said, "He is a very bad man."
    She said, "My friend Tamar says he does not tell the truth."
    I said, "Your friend Tamar is a very smart girl. How come your friend Tamar is so smart?"
    She said, "Her mommy told her George Bush never tells the truth.

    From the mouths of babes.

    Now I'll ask her about Ann Coulter.

  •  How else could you explain (4.00)
    this being the President of the US?


    Political censorship is the root of all evil! It is the antithesis to a functional democracy!!

    by truthbetold on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:21:16 PM PST

  •  Dumbing down (4.00)
    of the American culture is probably the main reason we are in this situation.  Not because HUGE numbers of Americans support Bush.

    They support Bush like I supported Regean in the 1980s.  I did it because I was 7, he was the "President of the United States" and I didn't know any better.  By the time I was 10 however, I knew Regean was BAD NEWS!!! Thanks to my parents :)

    Its not easy being a Floridian.

    by lawstudent922 on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:23:46 PM PST

    •  Wait Just a GolDarned Minute (none)
      American culture is dumbed down because 80% of Americans don't have an opinion about Ann Coulter? Good thing you're not taking that to court. (Florida or otherwise)

      There are real reasons to suggest that the culture is dumbed down (GWB?), but don't be dumping on the public because so damned few glue themselves to FauxNews, MSNBC & CNN. Those POS operations have far less direct impact on the public than folks around here would believe. (They do, however, have impact upon other journos, both broadcast and print.)

      Be thankful that AC's column is carried in only a handful of newspapers, and that her "bestsellers" have barely dented the American consciousness. Among those who have read her, I'd speculate that a fair number of those folks don't put more stock in her drivel than they do the comic mundanities of Dave Barry.  

  •  How many know (none)
    who Jerry Kilgore is?  Maybe a little "Google bombing" might help?  Just a thought...
  •  More Austin Powers on Ann: (none)
    Like the International Man of Mystery said: "She's a man, baby!"

    I wish I didn't know who she was. I like Maher, but I blame him for exposing her hideousness to the general population. I don't care about the incestuous hate-swapping on Fox other than the poison it spreads.

  •  Anthrax (none)
    "Sound of White Noise"
    was a true metal classic.

    Every song was killer.

    A diamond in the band's catalogue of inconsistent and often weak offerings.

  •  Blessed are the ignorant (none)
    Sometimes I wish I didn't know who she was, but then  again I used to envy kids in sunday school who never questioned "if your parents vote democrat they WILL GO TO HELL AND DIE!"

    Kos, which issue does this poll appear in?

  •  How many people (none)
    have "heard" of pseudo-celebrities like Coulter but know very little about them?

    I'd venture a guess that 20-30% know very little, so they hesitate in acknowledging they've even heard of her---so they don't get asked tougher questions they'll have to "lie" to answer.

    Outside the box solutions at low, low prices! http://jayshark.blogspot.com

    by Jonathan4Dean on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:44:29 PM PST

  •  In Borders and Barnes and Noble (none)
    To amuse myself, I enjoy telling the clerks at bookstores they have misshelfed Coulter's books in the non-fiction section.  

    Some of them actually laugh.

    Ein Land ist nicht nur das, was es tut -- es ist auch das, was es verträgt, was es duldet.

    by MoDem on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:55:49 PM PST

  •  shills for the big con (4.00)
    Want evidence we live in a different world? Here goes.

    Richard Nixon said that people in America know about as much as to what really goes down as a typical 10 year old.  That includes those that earnestly believe they are on the so-called left or on the so-called right. At bottom, both estates are petty illusion foisted up by the prevailing system. A system of organized corporate crime that promotes the skin-deep analysis and occasional bogus rivalry that exists on this site and elsewhere. Like a ball game most root for the "left" or "right" side as the Ann Coulters of the world shill for the true system and pose as cheerleaders for their "team".

    I'm no fan of tricky Dick Nixon but he was right on the money about this. Without a solid understanding of system ownership as it truly is, the most jaded worldview can hardly be more than a child's view.

    4 realities to ponder for those that actually believe status quo Ministry of Truth front stooges a la Coulter or rodeo clown GW Bush:

    1. The U.S. (CIA) has overthrown at least 20 democracies since WW II at the cost of millions of lives.

    2. We do not live under a republican form of representative free market democracy. We live and die under a de facto CORPORATE MONOPOLY STATE institutionalized by media and education psy-ops (see end quotes).

    3. War (as in the so-called war on terror) and the global drug trade (alias the war on drugs) are the most profitable enterprises on earth and both are blood soaked cons: public war for private profit and a trillion dollar a year drug cash business that is washed and cooked through money center US banks and elite corporations with the help of the CIA and Mossad each year.

    4. War is the biggest public debt generator on earth. The easiest way to control populations is to keep them in fear, in debt and in the dark -- brainwashed and illiterate as to the nature of their own history and who has controlled it. Hint: a nation that does not own its own history is a conquered nation. One of sheep and not of valid, thinking people.

    At the highest levels, a sellout U.S. government is a delivery whore for organized corporate crime (Corporate Monopoly State). In effect, puppet American regimes are shills for a system gone mad.

    The crux of the actual system? A simplified look:

    Basic question: how much power would you have if you could counterfeit your own (fiat) money and charge interest for it?

    Answer: Unlimited power. Virtually everyone on earth would unknowingly work for you -- a master parasite over effective slaves duped (again, via media and education psy-ops) to believe they are free. It is a new wrinkle on the old master-slave feudal arrangement. And the ultimate con.

    "THE REAL TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, AS YOU AND I KNOW, THAT A FINANCIAL ELEMENT IN THE LARGER CENTERS HAS OWNED THE GOVERNMENT EVER SINCE THE DAYS OF ANDREW JACKSON."
    PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT (in a letter to his handler Colonel Edward M. House who was a prime agent of the elite corporate money power. Colonel House also handled President Woodrow Wilson and so the creation of an unconstitutional, private bank monopoly better known as the "Federal" Reserve Corporation and its IRS (collection agency) in 1913. FDR speaks of financial monopoly men of the global banking cartel centers of New York & London that own the U.S. Government. November 21st, l933)

    "I HAVE UNWITTINGLY RUINED MY COUNTRY. A GREAT INDUSTRIAL NATION IS CONTROLLED BY ITS SYSTEM OF CREDIT. OUR SYSTEM OF CREDIT IS CONCENTRATED. THE GROWTH OF THE NATION, THEREFORE, AND ALL OUR ACTIVITIES ARE IN THE HANDS OF A FEW MEN. WE HAVE COME TO BE ONE OF THE WORST RULED, ONE OF THE MOST COMPLETLEY CONTROLLED AND DOMINATED GOVERNMENTS IN THE WORLD. ...NO LONGER A GOVERNMENT BY FREE OPINION, NO LONGER A GOVERNMENT BY CONVICTION AND THE VOTE OF THE MAJORITY, BUT A GOVERNMENT BY THE OPINION AND DURESS OF A SMALL GROUP OF DOMINANT MEN."
    PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON (in regret, three years after he signed the "Federal Reserve Act" and its privately owned corporate "credit system" into law as designed by the global banking cartel through Colonel Edward M. House and the "Jekyll Island Seven." 1916)

    "THE FEW WHO UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM, WILL EITHER BE SO INTERESTED FROM ITS PROFITS OR SO DEPENDENT ON ITS FAVORS, THAT THERE WILL BE NO OPPOSITION FROM THAT CLASS. THE GREAT BODY OF PEOPLE (I.E. SLAVES TO THE SYSTEM), MENTALLY UNCAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING THE TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGES, WILL BEAR ITS BURDEN WITHOUT COMPLAINT."
    THE ROTHSCHILD BROTHERS OF LONDON (as co-owners of the global banking cartel, in their communiqué to New York City agents of an elite establishment order. Quote: 6/25/1863)

    "IF YOU WANT TO BE THE SLAVES OF BANKS AND PAY THE COST OF YOUR OWN SLAVERY, THEN LET THE BANKS CREATE MONEY..."
    SIR JOSIAH STAMP (Governor of the Bank of England and the 2nd richest man in Britain. A man in service to the Rothschilds.1920)

    "BRITAIN IS THE SLAVE OF AN INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL BLOC."
    BRITISH PRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE (on the banking cartel June 20, 1934)

    "BEHIND THE OSTENSIBLE GOVERNMENT SITS ENTHRONED AN INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT OWING NO ALLEGIANCE AND ACKNOWLEDGING NO RESPONSIBLILITY TO THE PEOPLE. TO DESTROY THIS INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, TO BEFOUL THE UNHOLY ALLIANCE BETWEEN CORRUPT BUSINESS AND CORRUPT POLITICS IS THE FIRST TASK OF THE STATESMANSHIP OF TODAY."
    PRESIDENT THEODORE ROOSEVELT (denouncing a global money power cartel, President from 1901-1909, Roosevelt lived to see the creation of a privately owned and controlled Federal Reserve Corporation by the Invisible Government of international bank monopolists. Quote1906)

    "THOSE WHO MANIPULATE THE UNSEEN MECHANISM OF SOCIETY CONSTITUTE AN INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT WHICH IS THE TRUE RULING POWER OF OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE GOVERNED, OUR MINDS MOLDED, OUR TASTES FORMED, OUR IDEAS SUGGESTED LARGELY BY MEN WE HAVE NEVER HEARD OF."
    EDWARD L. BERNAYS (Sigmund Freud's nephew and the father of psy-ops, mass spin control and modern propaganda. Bernay's techniques were used to sell WWI to Americans thru the "Committee on Public Information". Josef Goebbels as Hilter's flack & Minister of Propaganda was an avid fan of Bernay's work and put it to use in the Third Reich. Bernays partnered with William Paley to run CBS. Bernay's work was also the foundation for CIA mass media manipulation via "Operation Mockingbird". Quote: Bernay's book "Propaganda" published 1928)

  •  shills for the big con (none)
    Want evidence we live in a different world? Here goes.

    Richard Nixon said that people in America know about as much as to what really goes down as a typical 10 year old.  That includes those that earnestly believe they are on the so-called left or on the so-called right. At bottom, both estates are petty illusion foisted up by the prevailing system. A system of organized corporate crime that promotes the skin-deep analysis and occasional bogus rivalry that exists on this site and elsewhere. Like a ball game most root for the "left" or "right" side as the Ann Coulters of the world shill for the true system and pose as cheerleaders for their "team".

    I'm no fan of tricky Dick Nixon but he was right on the money about this. Without a solid understanding of system ownership as it truly is, the most jaded worldview can hardly be more than a child's view.

    4 realities to ponder for those that actually believe status quo Ministry of Truth front stooges a la Coulter or rodeo clown GW Bush:

    1. The U.S. (CIA) has overthrown at least 20 democracies since WW II at the cost of millions of lives.

    2. We do not live under a republican form of representative free market democracy. We live and die under a de facto CORPORATE MONOPOLY STATE institutionalized by media and education psy-ops (see end quotes).

    3. War (as in the so-called war on terror) and the global drug trade (alias the war on drugs) are the most profitable enterprises on earth and both are blood soaked cons: public war for private profit and a trillion dollar a year drug cash business that is washed and cooked through money center US banks and elite corporations with the help of the CIA and Mossad each year.

    4. War is the biggest public debt generator on earth. The easiest way to control populations is to keep them in fear, in debt and in the dark -- brainwashed and illiterate as to the nature of their own history and who has controlled it. Hint: a nation that does not own its own history is a conquered nation. One of sheep and not of valid, thinking people.

    At the highest levels, a sellout U.S. government is a delivery whore for organized corporate crime (Corporate Monopoly State). In effect, puppet American regimes are shills for a system gone mad.

    The crux of the actual system? A simplified look:

    Basic question: how much power would you have if you could counterfeit your own private (fiat) money and charge interest for it?

    Answer: Unlimited power. Virtually everyone on earth would unknowingly work for you -- a master parasite over effective slaves duped (again, via media and education psy-ops) to believe they are free. It is a new wrinkle on the old master-slave feudal arrangement. And the ultimate con.

    In their own words...

    "THE REAL TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, AS YOU AND I KNOW, THAT A FINANCIAL ELEMENT IN THE LARGER CENTERS HAS OWNED THE GOVERNMENT EVER SINCE THE DAYS OF ANDREW JACKSON."
    PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT (in a letter to his handler Colonel Edward M. House who was a prime agent of the elite corporate money power. Colonel House also handled President Woodrow Wilson and so the creation of an unconstitutional, private bank monopoly better known as the "Federal" Reserve Corporation and its IRS (collection agency) in 1913. FDR speaks of financial monopoly men of the global banking cartel centers of New York & London that own the U.S. Government. November 21st, l933)

    "I HAVE UNWITTINGLY RUINED MY COUNTRY. A GREAT INDUSTRIAL NATION IS CONTROLLED BY ITS SYSTEM OF CREDIT. OUR SYSTEM OF CREDIT IS CONCENTRATED. THE GROWTH OF THE NATION, THEREFORE, AND ALL OUR ACTIVITIES ARE IN THE HANDS OF A FEW MEN. WE HAVE COME TO BE ONE OF THE WORST RULED, ONE OF THE MOST COMPLETLEY CONTROLLED AND DOMINATED GOVERNMENTS IN THE WORLD. ...NO LONGER A GOVERNMENT BY FREE OPINION, NO LONGER A GOVERNMENT BY CONVICTION AND THE VOTE OF THE MAJORITY, BUT A GOVERNMENT BY THE OPINION AND DURESS OF A SMALL GROUP OF DOMINANT MEN."
    PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON (in regret, three years after he signed the "Federal Reserve Act" and its privately owned corporate "credit system" into law as designed by the global banking cartel through Colonel Edward M. House and the "Jekyll Island Seven." 1916)

    "THE FEW WHO UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM, WILL EITHER BE SO INTERESTED FROM ITS PROFITS OR SO DEPENDENT ON ITS FAVORS, THAT THERE WILL BE NO OPPOSITION FROM THAT CLASS. THE GREAT BODY OF PEOPLE (I.E. SLAVES TO THE SYSTEM), MENTALLY UNCAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING THE TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGES, WILL BEAR ITS BURDEN WITHOUT COMPLAINT."
    THE ROTHSCHILD BROTHERS OF LONDON (as co-owners of the global banking cartel, in their communiqué to New York City agents of an elite establishment order. Quote: 6/25/1863)

    "IF YOU WANT TO BE THE SLAVES OF BANKS AND PAY THE COST OF YOUR OWN SLAVERY, THEN LET THE BANKS CREATE MONEY..."
    SIR JOSIAH STAMP (Governor of the Bank of England and the 2nd richest man in Britain. A man in service to the Rothschilds.1920)

    "BRITAIN IS THE SLAVE OF AN INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL BLOC."
    BRITISH PRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE (on the banking cartel June 20, 1934)

    "BEHIND THE OSTENSIBLE GOVERNMENT SITS ENTHRONED AN INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT OWING NO ALLEGIANCE AND ACKNOWLEDGING NO RESPONSIBLILITY TO THE PEOPLE. TO DESTROY THIS INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, TO BEFOUL THE UNHOLY ALLIANCE BETWEEN CORRUPT BUSINESS AND CORRUPT POLITICS IS THE FIRST TASK OF THE STATESMANSHIP OF TODAY."
    PRESIDENT THEODORE ROOSEVELT (denouncing a global money power cartel, President from 1901-1909, Roosevelt lived to see the creation of a privately owned and controlled Federal Reserve Corporation by the Invisible Government of international bank monopolists. Quote1906)

    "THOSE WHO MANIPULATE THE UNSEEN MECHANISM OF SOCIETY CONSTITUTE AN INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT WHICH IS THE TRUE RULING POWER OF OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE GOVERNED, OUR MINDS MOLDED, OUR TASTES FORMED, OUR IDEAS SUGGESTED LARGELY BY MEN WE HAVE NEVER HEARD OF."
    EDWARD L. BERNAYS (Sigmund Freud's nephew and the father of psy-ops, mass spin control and modern propaganda. Bernay's techniques were used to sell WWI to Americans thru the "Committee on Public Information". Josef Goebbels as Hilter's flack & Minister of Propaganda was an avid fan of Bernay's work and put it to use in the Third Reich. Bernays partnered with William Paley to run CBS. Bernay's work was also the foundation for CIA mass media manipulation via "Operation Mockingbird". Quote: Bernay's book "Propaganda" published 1928)

  •  I guess (none)
    my hope that the public would get their head out of the sand and wake up was premature.
    PEACE!
  •  Americans are mostly ignorant (none)
    of many issues outside of their own world. Having spent many, many years abroad, I know first hand just how unbelievably uninformed, incurious and basically ignorant most Americans are compared to the citizenry of all of Europe, most of SE Asia and Latin America. I know, its bad to generalize but its true. Americans are just not that interested in many areas of politics, history, science, philosophy, geography, you name it. Yes, there are millions who do not fit this stereotype but they live mostly in the cities and are likely to be either liberal or democrats. There are plenty of Gophers that have curious minds and know about our world but IMHO, they have failed to make the obvious conclusion that right wing ideology serves only the few at the expense of the many. To hear people in the heartland wax poetic about the WOT when they have never, ever been to Europe let alone an Islamic state is like watching "Being There".
  •  CBC Documentary (none)
    Early this year CBC's "The Fifth Estate" did a very good hour on the state of America's media and Ann Coulter was one of the people interviewed

    Needless to say, she lied. Happy to report, she got called on it (Note to Ann: You can lie to Americans about Canada, but you can't lie to us about our own history).

    If you haven't seen it, it's really worth a look I think and available on-line.

    http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html

    (you can watch the full 40 minute documentary free with Quicktime or media player - though the quality is low).

  •  Maybe that 79% (none)
    just followed my advice: stop talking about her.  Just stop, and she will go away.  No publicity, no ratings = no books, no TV.  She's gone.  (Don't believe it?  Where is Kristy Yamaguchi?) But nobody listens, which makes me think they really want to have her around.  What for?  She's so loopily over the edge that it's hardly sport to take issue with her.  She's fuckin nuts.  So why spar with a nutjob?  Why do you need the hatchet-faced woman?

    "Relax, honey... I was only trying to guess. your. Weight." (w.c. fields)

    by moltar on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 07:55:04 PM PST

  •  People are not dialed in (none)
    I was having a chat today with one of my fellow stay at home mom friends and we were talking about the whole Terry Schiavo thing.  Came up as a discussion of the whole right wing conservative Christian issue that is her husband's family.  Anyway, I started spewing all this info. about Tom DeLay and the whole thing being a gamble for the Repubs. to gain political capital, etc.  She said, "Who is Tom DeLay?"  I said, "He is the Majority Leader and he is a horrible, horrible man who games people like your in-laws for political gain, but doesn't give a damn about their issues really, he is just hungry for power."  I would warrant a guess that this gal does not know who Anne Coulter is either.  My brother who is a Bush supporter, didn't know who Anne Coulter was until a neighbor gave him, as a ribbing, her book entitled "How to Talk to a Liberal" or some such non-sense.  I was there and told him that she was the wackiest of wackos that his party had to offer.  

    People are just not plugged in.  I feel like I am running around with all this knowledge of how the dots all connect and then if I start spewing this to people they look at me like I am the wacko.  I mean you can only get so riled up on the elementary school playground, right?!

    In the weeks following the election, I had to go on a complete news and blog blackout because it was the only way to come down from the absolute frustration that I had with my fellow citizens.  I figured if Bush blew the planet up, I would know pretty quickly, otherwise I just had to try and be one of these out of touch people that run around in ignorant bliss.  I still don't listen to any radio news, NPR has been banished,  or watch any TV news, the only source for my news is Salon and DKos at this point as I try to figure out how to deal with being overly wired up on these issues while the vast majority of Americans are more concerned with who won Survivor, the Amazing Race, or American Idol than whether the people who lead our country are criminals.

    •  If you want to be like them (none)
      Listen to an oldies station with minimal news, or a sports talk station. Watch broadcast TV, or cable entertainment, not news, never cspan. Watch local news, network news, but don't listen too close. Maybe read USAToday. Occasionally watch 60 minutes.

      That's it. Nothing else. You'll get a very, very narrow view of the world, with NO detail.

      Just like most of the country.

  •  We should spread some of her words more widely (none)
    Get some of the most racist and fascist quotes of hers you can find and let people know that this is what conservatives believe. The more people who are aware of what she says and thinks, the more people will despise her and the conservative movement.
  •  At the risk of outing myself as a real leftist... (none)
    I will offer my humble suggestion that most people don't bother learning anything about politics because on some level they understand that the two corporate-dominated political parties offer them very little (Democrats) or nothing (Republicans). A fight between two sets of political elites answering to the same paymasters may be an interesting spectacle for some of us proles, but for most football, basketball and NASCAR are more exciting.

    "Men use thought only to justify their wrongdoing, and employ speech only to conceal their thoughts." Voltaire

    by chimpwatch on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 08:16:21 PM PST

    •  Have to respectfully disagree (none)
      You're entitled to your views, and I'm entitled to disagree with them.  If four-plus years of George W. and ten-plus years of right-wing nuts running Congress doesn't prove that there is a BIG difference between the two parties, I'm not sure that anything can.  
  •  this is the main point (none)
    this is not about politics, this is about people.

    what sort of system can work with the people we have.

    and I'm not saying more should know about Ann or even Condi, as many here might.

    progressive politics is really about culture, and that should be our advantage, but so far it has not been.

  •  I think Ann needs to contact ABC (none)
    She could use an extreme makeover...  

    If they can make fat toothless women hot... they could definitely help her shed that whole crypt keeper look.

    That or she could buy me a case of bacardi...  anyone is smokin when you're obliterated

    "children of the gone lost and forgotten, minds rotten The arcade shot em, Channel Zero on the TV got em" PE

    by chrissabian on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 08:30:26 PM PST

  •  I've actually never heard of Coulter outside here (none)
    If it hadn't been for reading this site, I would've never heard of Ann Coulter.  Unless my memory's faulty, I don't recall running across her anywhere except this blog.
  •  People might be missing the point here (4.00)
    These poll results (assuming their accuracy) don't reveal the public's ignorance of things political, they reveal the fact that Ann Coulter and her ilk are legends in their own minds.

    Most people still get their news from the broadcast networks, not the cable news shows or talk radio that keep Ms. Coulter rolling in throat logenzes.

    It's pretty easy to have no real opinion of her. Most people really aren't watching or listening to the programs she's on.

  •  My polling on PBS (none)
    When I volunteered to take pledges for our local PBS station, they asked us to poll the callers. I only had two callers and they were confused by the race question. After going through the list of choices, they each told me "Well I'm white." They had no idea that was the first choice- caucasian. Those who made the poll were living in a different world from their viewers.
  •  Kill 'Em All (Just Kidding...Sorta) (none)
    I can't believe she has 11% favorable.  Man, I'm stayin' out of the South...

    As for Anne Coulter, she has a regular column with World Net Daily website...it'll turn your blood cold.

    And I've got my eye on Bill O'Reilly and tonight I bagged Joe Scarborough  Joe Scarborough...have a look.

    Cheers.
    Blaghdaddy

  •  Live free or die (none)
    25% didn't know who Condi was? Well, she doesn't appear on the Sports Channel, does she?

    And that's why we just bought ourselves (as a Nation) a free pass for another (or a series of) 9/11s.

    Live free or die, assholes.

  •  Dammit, How Many Times Have I Told You People... (none)
    ... never to underestimate the ignorance of the American populace.  It keeps ME in catnip!

                                   Meow
                                   A Coulter
                                   Media Pussy

  •  More on Coulter/Coltrane (none)
    I found this while browsing but I've not seen anyone do any real investigation on it, although I did do a cursory search on Coltrane's in Georgia and there is a Deborah Coltrane in Pickens County with an unlisted number.  I'm fairly new here so I don't know what to do with this info.

    "There is a rumor going the rounds of the Press Corps that in real life Ann Coulter is a man. He/she was once Arthur Coltrane from Pickens County, Georgia, who went to Denmark when he/she was a teenager for a sex-change operation to become a woman, the operation being paid for by his/her wealthy and doting mother, Darlene Coltrane, heiress to a hog-farming fortune. The consensus about "Ms." Coulter/Coltrane in the Press Room is that ONLY a gay man could have such a vicious mouth on him/her. People are saying that his/her stunning blond locks are really a wig, which he/she got in a Copenhagen sex-toys and drag-queen supply shop, when his/her own hair fell out after the hormone shots took effect.

    Having seen what makeup could do for drag queen Ru Paul, who in real life is a VERY plain-looking black man, everyone finds it not surprising that "Ms." Ann Coulter/Coltrane would have shunned his/her family hog-farming business for the brighter lights of the big city, since we have heard that without all that Danish foundation cream, he/she might easily have been mistaken for one of the livestock."

    Within this article http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2867

  •  Best News I've Heard All Week (none)
    The fact that 79% of people have no idea who Ann the Man Coulter is is the best news I've heard all week. It means that that lying harpy is on the long slide to the obscurity and penury she so richly deserves. Here's hoping it won't be long till the figure is 100% as she's reduced to giving five dollar blowjobs on Hollywood Boulevard to pay the rent on her room in the flophouse.

    Dulce Bellum Inexpertis. -Erasmus

    by JDRhoades on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:31:44 AM PST

  •  Again, I think that the general public (none)
    is unaware and unconcerned with what is going on in politics. The only way to get through to them are with one sentence issue adds inbetween Trading Spaces, American Idol, football games etc. They don't read and many just use the computer as another shopping mall....which reminds me, hehe, I wonder what will happen when "they" start taking away their credit cards. Will the walking dead wake up??

    Torture a living being, lose your soul.

    by mattes on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 08:22:18 AM PST

  •  anthrax has stunk since they kicked joey out (none)
    aw, caught in a mosh.

    sure, i know who anthrax is...

  •  Three cheers for the 79 (none)
    They're the smart people, who know better than to waste time reading partisan rants.

    The 9 (including most of us) aren't much better - if we ignored this woman, she'd lose nearly half her audience.

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