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This isn't a typical goodbye rant, as I've already asked the Kos tech people to erase my account in its entirety - thereby assuring that I won't ever be back, and that I really don't want to be here.  And I do NOT encourage you to respond.  I don't want to stay, and you don't want me here.  Just read what I have to say, and leave it alone.  Besides which, your comments will, with any small luck, be deleted very soon.

This is merely what I've experienced over the two weeks that I've been a member of the Kos message board.  I thought maybe by sharing, something positive could be gained for new members.

The vast majority of Kossacks are brutally humourless, and extremely intolerant.  Let me explain that comment.  I understand that it's a symptomn of the anonymous internet life to bring out the worst in people, but these boards really represent the very worst that people have to offer.

I wrote a couple of pieces of fiction that were satirical absurd and mean.  In that order.  That's what I find funny, so I wrote it in my personal diary, and waited for other like-minded people to perhaps weigh in with what THEY think is funny.

This was not to be.  To my surprise, the vast majority of comments were from people who either wished to use my diary as an advertisment for their own petty egos, or simply to ream me out.  People on this board are religiously condescending, and completely sanctimonious.  

When reading a piece of satiric fiction they don't like, instead of passing it by, or simply forgetting about it as any rational person would do, the Kossacks find it their sacred duty to express any and all displeasure with anything.  

The simple ability to express their views turns people on this board into instant egotists, turning out their pockets to spread crumbs of learning among the "unwashed masses".  It's a vast exercise in vanity and self-delusion, and for all the interesting things that Kos posts, I'm going to be extremely happy once my account is gone.  

Back to being a silent, faceless lurker.  It's much more comfortable than actually saying anything to this aged and intolerant bunch.

Originally posted to jeremymc on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:56 PM PST.

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  •  I'm sorry you had a bad experience. (4.00)
    Fiction isn't exactly common here, so maybe the population just didn't know where you were coming from with what you wrote.

    I hope you find a community more in agreement with your style.

    •  Uncommon fiction... (3.90)
      is definitely Jeremy's bag.

      So, Jeremy. I had never seen your work before. I will never see it again, apparently.

      But before this disappears, allow me the chance to say that, while your writing is not my cup of tea, I found it promising.

      You, on the other hand, are WAY too fucking sensitive. Not that that's a bad thing. Just is what it is -- too sensitive to hold an open house critique of your fiction is just sensitive ENOUGH to be a writer in the first place...

      You gave up too soon, you know.

      It took me at least a month before I found my groove, my niche, my voice. I'm not just talking about the diaries themselves -- I'm talking about my "voice" in comments, the way I learned to interact with people here.

      I started off very brash and confrontational.

      Take a moment to let that sink in.

      Rage, rage, against the lying of the Right.

      by Maryscott OConnor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:14:49 PM PST

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      •  Now Maryscott is all sweetness (4.00)
        ...and light. ;)
        •  okay (4.00)
          What have you done with the real Maryscott? Fess up!!

          "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

          by catnip on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:04:38 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  I'm replying here (3.90)
            because I want everyone to see this very very important post and I believe I speak for everyone when I say it's more important than all the posts below.

            Posters like me, Jeremy and George W Bush frequently do not receive the mojo that we richly deserve. If a ransom rating of at least 3.96 / 25 is not made in the next 24 hours, we will leave this website, have kos delete our accounts and you will all weep at the loss of our brilliant yet misunderstood insight and humour.

            You are free to make your choice but you will have to live with the eternal consequences if you do not rate this post up.

            GBCW

            --- My opinions are my own and not my employer's.

            by Aexia on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:04:23 PM PST

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      •  You're being too kind, Maryscott. (4.00)
        Sorry, Jeremy, but your writing needs a lot of work.

        That last diary on Schiavo rightfully passed into oblivion.  I'm sorry I took the time to read it.

        Gutta cavat lapidem

        by SneakySnu on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:29:29 PM PST

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      •  Brash and confrontational? (4.00)
        I'm having a hard time imagining that...
      •  Your advice comes too late! (4.00)
        Even as  I write this, teams of Kos scientists are busy erasing Jeremy from the board. In a few minutes, none of us will have any memories of him.

        Hmmm... person erased from uncaring high tech society...By God!... that sounds like a great premise for a short story.

      •  But...But..But... (none)
        ...Maryscott...you have talent to begin with.

        "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything" - Joseph Stalin

        by Blue Shark on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:00:47 PM PST

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      •  You found your voice? (4.00)

         Where?  Under the sofa or behind the laundry hamper?  Me, I'm still looking for mine and hope the cat didn't take it outside and bury it along side my ability to read Faulkner without letting my mind wander.  I really wish I could find that.

         BenGoshi
        _________________

        Awaiting your calls, Chairman Dean, Senator Reid. Lines are open!

        by BenGoshi on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:51:03 PM PST

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      •  So I saw this diary (4.00)
        Read it. Went hmmmmm. A snark fest. Might be interesting. I wonder what has the KOS community in such a tizzy?

        Maybe the diarist was typing in a dog's voice, me thinks?

        Or maybe someone's running around in his diaries and trolling every comment he's making. Veritable cyber stalking, I think it's called. (Oh I LOVE those, the petty one upsmanship, the cyber bawling, the accusations and counter accusations, oooooh, it's making it tough to type as I type (deep breaths), calm down. Okay. there. ... although I have to admit I always seem to join the fray on those fits of kossack onanism after the orginal has already been deleted. <sigh>)

        Oh yeah, back to you. Sorry. So I'm thinking, maybe HE'S a troll. Ever thought of that? Grist for the mill.

        ...And then I went and read them. All. Ahem.

        So, dude, this whole Niagra Falls act that you're foisting upon us is because -- LITERALLY -- three Catholic kossacks didn't like you mocking the Pope? And -- LITERALLY -- two guys think your Shiavo WWF mock was unfunny, and LITERALLY one guy thought your NRA satire made you look uncaring?

        In an acronym: GMAFB!

        Is that what counts for balls these days? A half dozen people criticize your work and you run and hide and delete away??? NO fucking wonder we're getting our fucking asses handed to us every stinkin' fucking day!

        Dude, it's almost pointless to point out that I'd hazard that the "defenders" of your work, such as it is, far outweigh the detractors in these comments.

        For the record: I thought all the concepts for your diaries were good. Execution was debateable on some, and outright crap on others. But, as MSOC said above, write if you're a writer. And fuck all what anyone says.

        My instinct tells me you got the "mind" of a writer, you just ain't got the sack for it. Get. Some. Balls.

        Then come back and try to piss off sensitive PC fuckers who don't think it's ABSOLUTE RIGHT to mock the Catholic Church's stance on this issue. Hey, fuck the sacred cows. And, for the guy who didn't like you mocking an old dying man (the pope), I say, FUCK THE POPE! Does the pope, for a moment, worry about all the fucking millions of African woman who are dying because of policies banning abortion and, literally, the use of contraception? You were right to satirize this rat fuck, but you couldn't take the miniscule of negative feedback you received.

        Go say 150 Hail Marys for your sins. Go! Or more to the point: Go read The Complete Works of Michael Creighton (and i don't give a fuck if I misspelled his gotdamn name), and don't return until your finished, young man.

        That should be punish enough for any would-be writer who quits after 6 comments.

        Oh, and by the way, if you don't think there were PLENTY of readers of Hunter S. Thompson who didn't want to put a ice pick through their own eye (or more likely, through his eye) when they read some of his shit, you seriously misinterpret what it means to be a "gonzo" journalist.

        Enjoy your retirement, shouting at the TV, because, you know, the TV don't talk back.

        Yet.

        If you aren't outraged, you're not paying attention.

        by bigskiphazzy on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:31:18 PM PST

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      •  ummm... (none)
        I'm supposed to have a voice, groove and/or niche? Geez. I thought my mere presence was enough. Bummer.

        (although I must say, I think I'm kinda groovy...)

        "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

        by catnip on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:41:37 PM PST

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      •  Sheesh (4.00)
        You're being awfully nice about it, Maryscott.

        I'm astonished at the massive control-freakery going on in this diary.  Look at me!  But I'm leaving!  But look at me!  But even though this is an open forum, you're not allowed to respond!  Because I say so!

        Also, only people who are just like me ought to respond to my writing and they ought to only tell me that they like it.  Even though I'm posting it on a public forum not pre-screened in advance to only admit people who are just like me.

        Also, everyone else is the problem, not me.  

        I empathize with this POV because I've shown it myself on occasion, but it's a public forum and everyone is not guaranteed to take something in the spirit it was intended, and writers always have to deal with unintended responses.  I wrote a bit of a rant about the GOP "liberals are attacking Christmas" complaints back in December and it didn't go over very well with a number of people.  So I read the comments, revised, and explained, because the first version clearly went over the top and offended people, thus clouding my point.  

      •  This is the THIRD (3.93)
        Goodbye Cruel Daily Kos Diary in two days. "Oh, I'm creative, oh I'm misunderstood." Who the f*ck isn't? And once again the fickle finger of Dkos cruelty via non-recognition of creative talent strikes. Well, cool. Less competition.

        As I posted yesterday in another GCDkos diaries I personally I'd like to see more "Read My Brilliant Diary or the Bunny Bear with the Bunny Complex Gets It With The Turbo Bubble Shooter" diaries.

        Image hosted by Photobucket.com

        This is how I'm pimping my diaries from now on. I have the bear, I have the bubble shooter. So there.

        Recommended? It isn't even that great of a whine.

        Whoever controls the media, controls the mind. - Jim Morrison

        by mentaldebris on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:11:06 PM PST

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        •  It Always Happens... (none)
          ...around final exams...
          •  Ahhhh. I see. (4.00)
            In that case, sorry we sucked so much. Good luck on the finals!

            Isn't this diary supposed to, like, self-destruct in five minutes or something?

            Whoever controls the media, controls the mind. - Jim Morrison

            by mentaldebris on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:37:24 PM PST

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            •  Yeah (none)
              It's like one of those messages on Inspector Gadget. The ones Gadget would toss away where they'd blow up in Chief Quimby's face. "GADGET!"

              Raise your hammers high And let the anvils ring! -the Animaniacs

              by Goldfish on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:18:24 PM PST

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              •  Gadget (4.00)
                And if only Jeremy had the spunk and temerity of Dr. Claw, he would come back and get us next time.

                BTW: my computer f-ed up the first time I was trying to post it. It's all your fault - yes, ALL OF YOU. I'm leaving forever.

        •  it wasn't the whine (4.00)
          it was the comments that were worth the recommendation. I just got back from a long, hard day at work, and after only 20 minutes my stomach hurts from laughing.

          Frankly, I come here for three main things nowadays:

          1. A political filter that sorts news items by their importance much better than TV, which drives me nuts.

          2. A chance to occasionally get into it with people, which usually means correcting some mistake I perceive in the name of truth and the good of mankind.

          3. A place where I can stumble on some unexpected exchange that makes me laugh my metaphorical ass off.

          the spirit is restored by wounding

          by jd in nyc on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:36:29 PM PST

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          •  what a great distillation (none)
            of what makes reading this site worthwhile.  The unexpected humor really can be a treat, too.  

            I wonder whether Bob Johnson's dog will drop by tonight.

            The Republicans need a divided country. But we don't. --Big Dog

            by froggywomp on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:42:26 PM PST

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        •  cycles cycling (4.00)

          "i have forgotten your face since i never hear your voice." (my mom)

          by dadanation on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:02:04 PM PST

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      •  Sometimes, Maryscott (none)
        I started off very brash and confrontational,
        said Maryscott O'Connor.

        Sometimes, Maryscott, you still are.  And I quite like it that way.  You have a gift for the harangue that both informs and entertains.

        If a person is going to publish his/her thoughts in a forum like dailykos, where pretty much the whole world of politi-geeks can and will take their shots at the writer and the writing, that person should have or grow a thick skin.

      •  If you need another spanking (none)
        for old time's sake, c'mere baby.
      •  don't kid yourself (none)
        you're still a bitch.

        My bitch, that is. . .

        ;-)

        We are not "compassionate conservatives." We are "fighting liberals." And we'll kick your ass.

        by Pachacutec on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 08:00:20 PM PST

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      •  Y'all Rock! (none)
        This thread's one for the record books, its just too damn funny.  

        Now, class, let's thank Jeremy for sharing.

        . . . class? . . .
        . . .
        class?

        "I'm going to dance the dream, and make the dream come true." -Kate Bush

        by ellisande on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 11:19:34 PM PST

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    •  Do you think (none)
      jeremync's dog will make an appearance on his behalf?

      Seriously, I hope you find a place that suits your style.

    •  my experience is (none)
      their snark is worse than their bite.
  •  the best thing you have ever written on this board (3.81)
  •  Errr.... (none)
    Don't take the actions of a few and apply them to all of us here.

    Sorry to see you go.

    •  indeed (none)
      The diarist's previous 6 diaries have a total of 64 comments (as of my writing this).  I think it's safe to say that almost the entire dKos community has not commented on his diaries.  
      •  safe bet. (4.00)
        My first notice of Jeremymc is this farewell.
        Did a quick history check:
         (unknown length of lurking)
        commenting since 3/14/05
        7 diaries between 3/22 & 3/30 including this one.
         (congrats,  Jeremymc; I still haven't come up with anything worth diary-ing)

        16 days is obviously plenty of time to come to conclusions about the worthiness of all 47000plus users of dkos. </snark>

        •  Hang on (4.00)
          He lurked then he posted.

          If he lurked he must have seen what happens to people round here.

          Then he posted and expected something different for himself?

          FRT

          Fucking Republican Troll. Stick around son, we ain't finished with your ass yet.

          "Till the Last Dog Dies"

          by Deep Dark on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:03:36 PM PST

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        •  You Used To Have to EARN Yr Goodbye Whine (3.88)
          Beloved commentators would burn out and then post a flaming Molotov diary on the way out the door (oh Theoria, how we miss you).

          Now two weeks after registering people are doing this.

          What's this world coming to?

          On the other hand, this is a lot more fun than those goodbye missives from beloved Kossacks, largely because jeremymc didn't stick around long enough to become beloved. In fact, the only thing jeremymc did wrong, IMO, was not post this as his first diary on dKos.  Now that would have been worth some mojo!

          Start doing the things you think should be done, and start being what you think society should become. -Adam Michnik.

          by GreenSooner on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:09:19 PM PST

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      •  wrong (4.00)
        Once you reach Super-Duper-Trusted-User status you find out that there are actually only 25 people who comment in dkos diaries. They just use lots of different nicknames and ID numbers. So, I think it's safe to say that the entire dkos community actually has commented in his diaries.

        /top secret information

        "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

        by catnip on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:47:53 PM PST

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  •  Au Revoir (3.85)
    By your admittance, your diary was mean.. so don't get pissed when people call you out for it.

    The road to hell is paved with Good Intentions.

    by JenAtlanta on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:55:39 PM PST

  •  RECOMMENDED! (4.00)

    John Stossel looks like a 70s porn star.

    by bink on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:55:56 PM PST

  •  you know, (4.00)
    Bob Johnson has a lovely satirical, asinine and possibily mean diary on the Rec board right now...  maybe you need to be funnier.
  •  Amazing diary (4.00)
    Where's your tip jar?

    Two-step, lockstep, goosestep: Herr Busch's three-step plan to a righter tomorrow.

    by The Termite on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:57:31 PM PST

  •  Hmmm (4.00)
    You are not going out very well.

    That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me?

    by sommervr on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:57:43 PM PST

  •  People are really godamn sensitive (4.00)
    jesus, it's a message board/blog... why does it affect people's egos so bad.

    Oh my god!  Somone disagrees with me!

    Hey GOopers: Focus on your own damn family, and leave mine alone

    by pacified on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:57:56 PM PST

    •  And ya gottal love this gem: (4.00)
      I thought maybe by sharing, something positive could be gained for new members.

      Oh, please, guy, tell me something constructive!  Equiring minds want to know.

      The vast majority of Kossacks are brutally humourless, and extremely intolerant.  Let me explain that comment.  

      Oh, please do...

       I understand that it's a symptomn of the anonymous internet life to bring out the worst in people, but these boards really represent the very worst that people have to offer.

      Wow, now I'm awash in positivity!  Being subject to a sweeping generalization about some 400,000 anonymous posters really does present me with a credible case for better understanding this site and its intricate vicissitudes, doesn't it?  Does it fuck!

      Have fun eating worms, pal.

      Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of nonthought. -- Milan Kundera

      by Dale on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:10:27 PM PST

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  •  We sure are getting fad waves here (4.00)
    another "You don't like my writing so I'm leaving!" Where's Bob's Dog Rex when we need him? Wheet! Wheet! Here Rex!

    Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain

    by Rolfyboy6 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:57:59 PM PST

  •  Heh. (3.96)
    "The vast majority of Kossacks are brutally humourless, and extremely intolerant."

    Is that supposed to be funny? Because I won't put up with comments like that on here!

  •  Ummm (4.00)
    Hasn't been my experience here. But then again I didn't try writing any fiction.

    Delenda est Sinclair! http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group

    by mole333 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:58:00 PM PST

    •  Maybe you are right about use savaging fiction (none)
      I mean, look at the absolutely pasting we give to the White House statements and Bush's utterance. We really are savage to fiction when we come across it I guess.

      cheers,

      Mitch Gore

      Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

      by Lestatdelc on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:29:34 PM PST

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  •  Its only words (4.00)
    While the attacks on your diary may have seemed petty, leaving in angry huff seems to be a little undignified.

    A bad writer always blames the reader.

    Strengthen what remains

    by litero on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:58:19 PM PST

  •  Another cowboy riding off into the sunset... (4.00)

    Reality is just... a point of view - Philip K. Dick; Beautiful thing, the destruction of words. (from Orwell's 1984)

    by LionelEHutz on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:58:53 PM PST

    •  That pic is getting a lot of mileage (4.00)
      this week.

      In the midst of life we are in debt, etc.

      by ablington on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:47:55 PM PST

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      •  You actually see a picture? (4.00)
        I only see an "X".  Waaaaaa, you are leaving me out in the cold.  You don't like me, oh woe is me.  Why do you hate me so and why won't you let me see the picture?  [humor]

        Sorry, that is a funny as I get.  I do not do humor well, and often do not understand the often veiled humor.  Sorry about this guy leaving, but I am not aged, just wise on some matters, ignorant on others; I am not intolerant except for people whose egos are too big for their small tolerance levels.

        haven't read his previous attempts at writing and this diary allows me not to feel too bad about it.

  •  not a typical goodbye rant? (4.00)
    I'm not sure there's a template for Goodbye Cruel World diaries, but I know I've read plenty of stuff like this before:

    • "religiously condescending, and completely sanctimonious"

    • "vanity and self-delusion"

    • "I'm going to be extremely happy once my account is gone"

    Well, you ain't alone.
    •  actually - you've inspired me! (4.00)
      I think it would be great to create a template--or perhaps a checklist--for GBCW diaries.  

      Then, kossacks could judge these things like an ice-skating competition:  did you hit all the required elements, perform them with pizzazz, etc.?

      I'll borrow liberally from yours in drawing it up--hope you won't mind the theft.  Of course, even if you would, it doesn't matter, since you won't be around to see it.

      Adios, jeremymc--and thanks!

    •  PBJ Diddy beat you to it, I'm afraid (3.92)

      Dear (Kossacks/Kosopolitans/Kossites/Kosicles):
      I have loved you for a long time now so I feel that I must tell you what is honestly in my (heart/head/soul/closet). I (hate/loathe/detest/belch with disgust because of) each and every person I encounter on this blog lately. It's not (you/me), it's (me/you). I've been here (4 years/2 years/6 months/9 days) and I've been troll rated (unfairly/capriciously/violently)at least (1,000/10,000/25,000) times in the last two days. If you all hate me so much I'm (leaving/committing suicide/eating a bagel/dying my eyebrows pink) and don't try to stop me.

      I have better things in my life, such as (?) BTW, all of this angst and sturm und drang is the fault of (name of popular bloggist who called the diarist on his/her bullshit recently). Don't try looking for me I won't be back for (ever/1 year/1 month/1 week/1 minute).

      xoxo

      ______
      Your name here

      I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth and I am a citizen of the world -- Eugene Debs

      by dove on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:56:39 PM PST

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      •  well then i'm leaving goddamit! nt (none)
      •  By all rights, (4.00)
        that is MY mojo you're clocking up there. I am leaving and wont come back until you return those 4's to their rightful owner.

        Love,

        Yours in extreme brutality and humorless intolerance,

        Pee-be-Jay.

        You have reached a non-working signature

        by PBJ Diddy on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:42:08 PM PST

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      •  This is just begging for a MadLibs treatment: (4.00)
        Kossacks,

        I have been here for about six {period of time} and have written many {adjective} diaries. In this time, I've considered many of you my {plural noun}, and others of you have really made me {adjective}.

        While I've tried to {verb} the {noun} with repeated diaries and posts, I now find that I can no longer {verb} anymore.

        I've had enough. I've got to {verb] now. You won't have me to {adverb} mock anymore.

        I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality. - George Washington

        by Malacandra on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:00:48 PM PST

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  •  fuck off (4.00)
    Back to being a silent, faceless lurker.  It's much more comfortable than actually saying anything to this aged and intolerant bunch.

    i am fricken 23 years old gay chick. my diary w/a rediculously funny picture about this Schaivo mess is currently on the recommended list.  hell Bob had a piece of satire up earlier.  we do have a sense of humor goddamn it.  just b/c some few people didnt like yours doesnt mean jack.  there are hundreds of thousands of vistors here a day and a couple didnt like what you wrote.  well boo fucking hoo.

    dont tell me what to do or what (not) to say.  if you dont want to be a part of this community then dont.  just dont expect us to feel sorry for you or beg you to come back. this GCW diary is about as pathetic as i have seen here.

    you put up a diary and surprise surprise people didnt write on the topic you set forth.  tough shit, people can say whatever the fuck they want, within community moderation.

    Yeah the revolution starts now..So what you doin' standin' around? -Steve Earle

    by juls on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:59:30 PM PST

  •  Write for yourself not for others (4.00)
    I've written a couple of Diary's and my favourites the ones I liked the most had 1-4 comments...it's kinda frustrating but for me it's just a way to vent.  Also, sometimes people on this site are careful that some of the topics may be used as amo against us if they are quoted out of context.  Sometimes people just don't read the whole diary and miss the point and comment anyway.

    Overall take time read the recommended diaries and make sure you like the diaries you write.

  •  asdf (none)
    That's what I find funny, so I wrote it in my personal diary, and waited for other like-minded people to perhaps weigh in with what THEY think is funny.

    Not going to be overly critical of you, but I think the above section is very telling.
    If you want to control the opinion of your diaries, perhaps you should create your own blog and police the replies?

    I also read some of the local's replies to your Shiavo diary - most of those seemed tame in comparison to your very angry rebuttals.  

    What you are decrying is a site which contains generally like-minded people who often disagree with certain issues.  And disagreement from the masses doesn't seem to sit with you well.

    *shrugs*

    Best of luck to you in your lurker status.  :)

  •  why not? (4.00)

    ...Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things....

    by PhillyGal on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:03:31 PM PST

  •  Don't let the door hit you in the ass (4.00)
    Wow, you are a whiney thing, aren't you?  Some people didn't like your fiction so they are aged, intolerant, egoists, humorless...did that about cover it?  You remind me of a guy I know who says, "American women just don't do it for me."  I asked him if it was possible that HE was the problem and not 150,000,000 women.  So I'll ask you the same thing...is it possible you're the problem?  

    And btw, I went and read a couple of your diaries...your responses to people's posts was charming...how many did you tell to fuck off before suggesting that everyone wants to "suck Hunter's dick"?  

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

    by Barbara Morrill on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:05:45 PM PST

  •  It's the ratings system (4.00)
    Absolute and impulsive power to reward or harm.

    I think it would be very interesting to have a way to rate the ratings, to create an incentive for people to either (a) rate judiciously or (b) keep on moving.

    On second thought, no. That would actually leverage the mobbing tendency, by creating a sanction for giving any rating other than the mode.

    I do know that the ratings system isn't about to go away, that the status-economics of mojo and recommendations acquisition dominates almost everything that happens here, and this can impair cross-pollination of ideas even within the community of Democrats...never mind valuable exchanges across the aisle.

    But, hey. This post is going to be gone soon, so there's no use wasting much more thought on something that's not going to win me some ratings points... :)

    Republican prayer - Please, God. Let us keep Teri Schiavo's soul trapped in her decayed body for as long as possible. Amen.

    by cskendrick on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:07:51 PM PST

    •  cskendrick (4.00)
      You'll always get 4s from me. :^)

      We can make the world a better place by laying them by the heels. -- Sherlock Holmes

      by Carnacki on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:32:06 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  And until recently (4.00)
        I only got "3's" from Carl Ryberg.

        But he gave me a "4" this week, so posting-wise,
        I feel RIPPED!!!!

        Republican prayer - Please, God. Let us keep Teri Schiavo's soul trapped in her decayed body for as long as possible. Amen.

        by cskendrick on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:12:22 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  The ratings system is a necessary evil. (4.00)
      Any time I start doubting that, I just take a look at the abusive, contentless dreck in hidden comments.  I also prefer this system to one in which an omnipotent board nanny removes offending posts which then vanish into the ether, never to be seen or reconsidered again.  This is a more transparent system then that.

      There are drawbacks, as you mention, but it ain't broke enough to fix yet, in my opinion.

      I don't think this poster's issues can all be blamed on the ratings system.  It's more a situation of onion thin skin combined with unrealistic expectations and failure to play well with others.

      It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation.

      by martianchronic on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:06:51 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  you forgot one other issue to blame (none)
        ...lack of talent.  But who am I to judge?
      •  Blessing (none)
        I've noticed that there aren't really that many comments that have to be hidden on any  given day.  Almost always some amateur troll angry because his last dozen troll posts disappeared into the aether.  The pros know better than to waste their time.  So in a nutshell, we don't have to diasppear many comments because we can disappear comments.  Hooray for scoop.  

        Tom DeLay's GOP: cheating America in a time of war.

        by Tom Frank on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:23:20 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  arghh! (4.00)
      Please!? No more math! I have enough trouble handling 0-4!

      "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

      by catnip on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:23:13 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle (4.00)
    People on this board are religiously condescending, and completely sanctimonious.

    You are coming across as rather condescending and sanctimonious, yourself.
    When reading a piece of satiric fiction they don't like, instead of passing it by, or simply forgetting about it as any rational person would do, the Kossacks find it their sacred duty to express any and all displeasure with anything.

    And the reason you cannot follow this advise when reading comments is?

    Sure, I have seen examples of what you describe - this very diary being one of them.

  •  How old are you? (4.00)
    I went back and looked at your diaries.  The problem is obvious- you are not overwhelmed with natural talent.  Not only that, but you are utterly incapable to taking criticism.  Finally, both of those problems are logarithmically magnified by an astounding ego.  You actually compare yourself to Hunter S. Thompson.  Even here, you declare yourself "funny."  

    Here's a clue.  Instead of running away like a spanked little boy, go back. Read your diaries.  I really suggest you read them out loud- it exposes flaws you can skip when skimming.  Then read the comments.  Ask if any of them are constructive.  If they are, learn from them.  If they are not, move on to the next.  Only in this way will you improve to the point that people will listen to what you have to say.  Otherwise, you are destined to roam from blog to blog, being ridiculed and ignored.

    Follow the money. It leads to the truth.

    by dhonig on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:10:29 PM PST

  •  So . . . (4.00)
    a few people out of thousands respond to your diaries so the equation is - 5/50,000= vast majority of brutally humorless, and extremely intolerant Kossacs?

    Wow "aged and intolerant bunch" what are you? 12.

    Page - would you please hand me my walker, I need to hobble to the kitchen for some Geritol so I have enough energy to belittle these here whippersnappers.

    The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison

    by SeattleLiberal on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:12:36 PM PST

    •  I hope I'm as badass as my grandmother (4.00)
      when I'm her age.  Sure, she's a little absentminded, but that's ok.

      You see, I'm her namesake.  And here's a picture of her when she was 17:

      I guess some things are hereditary ;-)

      •  'Plutonium' (4.00)
        was an unusual name to have back then. Youre lucky its trendy now.

        In the midst of life we are in debt, etc.

        by ablington on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:57:49 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  U (4.00)
          And her granpda was named Uranium!
          •  GROAN (none)
            but hey, that's pretty good nerd humor!
            •  Chemistry (4.00)
              OT but this is the best nerd music ever (see clip)...

              NaCl(Sodium Chloride)
              Just a little atom of chlorine
              Valence minus one
              Swimming thru the sea, digging the scene
              Just having fun
              She's not worried about the shape or size
              Of her outside shell
              It's fun to ionize
              Just a little atom of Cl
              With an unfilled shell

              But somewhere in that sea lurks
              Handsome Sodium
              With enough electrons on his outside shell
              Plus that extra one
              Somewhere in this deep blue sea
              There's a negative
              For my extra energy yes
              Somewhere in this foam
              My positive will find a home

              Then unsuspecting Chlorine
              Felt a magnetic pull
              She looked down and her outside
              Shell was full
              Sodium cried "what a gas be my bride and
              I'll change your name from Chlorine to Chloride"

              Now the sea evaporates to make the clouds
              For the rain and snow
              Leaving her chemical compounds in the abscence
              Of H2O
              But the crystals that wash upon the shore
              Are happy ones
              So if you never thought before
              Think of the love that you eat
              When you salt your meat
              Think of the love that you eat
              When you salt your meat

              •  Best nerd music ever? I think not (4.00)
                That would be Tom Lehrer's "Elements Song" in which he sings the 92 elements known at the time to the tune of "A Modern Major General," and caps it off with

                These are the only ones of which the news has come to Hah-vahd . . .
                And there may be many others but they haven't been dis-cah-vahd!

                •  That's good but I'm sticking to my pick (none)
                  NaCl explains the working of atomic struction and molecular attraction, The Elements is just a musical listing of the Periodic Table (a very good list, but still just a list). Thank you for sharing though - it's very good.
                  •  Yes, but . . . (none)
                    it's a very clever and well-done listing of the periodic table. Not that NaCl isn't good too, I just think Lehrer's is a classic.

                    There's plenty of other nerd music that ought to be mentioned here. Some of They Might Be Giants' stuff (e.g. "The Sun Is A Mass Of Incandescent Gas"), Logan Whitehurst's "You're A Volcano", the Quidnuncs' "Richter" . . . maybe someone needs to do a diary.

                •  Time for a repost (4.00)
                  For all the chem nerds around here.

                  There's a funny website about molecules with silly names.  A preview:

                  www.chm.bris.ac.uk :

                  Fucitol

                  Although this sounds like what an undergraduate chemist might exclaim when their synthesis goes wrong, it's actually an alcohol, whose other names are L-fuc-ol or 1-deoxy-D-galactitol. It gets its wonderful trivial name from the fact that it is derived from the sugar fucose, which comes from a seaweed found in the North Atlantic called Bladderwrack whose latin name is Fucus vesiculosis. Interestingly, there are a few articles in the Journal of Biochemistry throughout 1997 concerning a kinase enzyme which acts on fucose. The creators of these articles were Japanese, and seemed to have missed the fact that fucose kinase should not be abbreviated as 'fuc-K'. Similarly, the E. coli K-12 Gene has other proteins that have been named Fuc-U and Fuc-R.

                  What color are your pajamas?

                  by Unstable Isotope on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:58:56 PM PST

                  [ Parent ]

            •  Moebiues (none)
              Holy crap - I made this stupid joke today in this thread? Wow, this diary is just the gift that keeps on giving. It's like 50 different diaries, main page posts, open threads, C&Js, WYFPs, SYFPHs and GBCWs all tossed into one huge salad. I can't even tell where it begins and ends anymore. It's the fucking moebius strip of diaries.
          •  Ouch (none)
            not nearly as beautiful as your geekiness, but I actually considered changing my middle name to Tungsten so my initial would be a W...
          •  So that makes her (4.00)
            Da Bomb???
      •  "some things are hereditary"? (4.00)
        What, sepia?

        Please do not offer my god a peanut. | blog | LSF

        by folkbum on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:03:46 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  I hope I'm as badass as my wife's aunt (none)
        WASHINGTON, Jan. 11 (UPI) -- Personally trained by Stalin, Ana Pauker, Romania's Communist tyrant, had earned her spurs the only way the Soviet tyrant trusted. She denounced her own Communist husband, who was shipped to Siberia to die in the gulag. This was Pauker's ticket to ride a Soviet tank into "liberated" Bucharest in 1944, where she replaced the recently departed Nazi Gauleiter for Romania.

        The personification of Communist evil, Pauker got her just desserts shortly before Stalin's death in 1953. After supervising the rigged "purge" trials of thousands of Romanians during the forced collectivization and victimization of innocent peasants, and sending intellectuals and politicians to die in prison, Pauker herself was accused of "deviationism" and put on trial. She promptly recanted and was only demoted, then retired and allowed to die in her own bed. But Pauker gave Romania its ghostly Orwellian tincture that endured for 15 years after the end of the Cold War.

        Follow the money. It leads to the truth.

        by dhonig on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:48:54 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Sorry (4.00)
    I just didn't like your diary.  I thought it was in poor taste, but I'm no journalist myself. People here are very honest and blunt, so sorry your feelings are hurt. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...

    Blue guy in a red state.

    by txbirdman on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:13:00 PM PST

  •  Please link to your diaries (none)
    I'd like to see what you did--

    But please don't be humorless yourself- its a bit of an ancient tradition for political types to want to take the piss out of each other just for the hell of  it-- ever been in debate class?  Its just a way of giving each other shit- because we can.

    Bush will be impeached.

    by jgkojak on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:17:41 PM PST

  •  Looked at your diaries (4.00)
    Not having seen any before this.  Sorry, man, you're just not funny.  What, you were expecting an instant fanclub here?
  •  Jeez Jeremy (4.00)
    thanks for making me feel bad ("aged and intolerant bunch").  Heck, and I kept thinking 49 was still on the young side . . .

    Seriously, you need to not let comments on the internet affect you so much.  I went back and read some of your stuff.  Some of it is funny at times,  and some of it isn't (my opinion mind you), but whatever people said about it, don't let that determine how you feel.  If you like what you write what does it matter if others here don't?  

    •  Jeremy, the person who wrote your (4.00)
      previous diaries sounds like a bright,imaginative,
      13-year old, with a penchant for toilet humor. They must have been fun for you to write; what a disappointment everyone here didn't see the humor you strained for.

       You're not without talent.Wouldn't you be hurt if no one had said anything? No comments at all? Wouldn't that hurt you more?

      Well, you've gotten a lot of attention today. And lots of good advice, along with some ridicule -- which shouldn't surprise you. Many other people have been treated much worse, for much better efforts. Don't be a partypoop. Now's the time to show you have a sense of humor.

    •  Aged (none)
      I prefer to think of it like being a fine red wine.

      What color are your pajamas?

      by Unstable Isotope on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:01:29 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Maybe you should try leaving more often . . . (4.00)
    It appears to bring out much good cheer and plenty of agreement.

    Sincerely,

    Anglico
    An aged egotist whose sacred duty is to express displeasure with all things displeasing

  •  Just read your diaries (4.00)
    I think I know what youre going for- and you are correct-
    its not everyones cup of meat.

    And I have to say-
    people were a little nasty-- they didn't recognize what you wrote as legitimate humor.

    What you do is in your face, and that is always going to bother people.  Remember, there are people on this board who don't like Michael Moore!

    I would recommend you start your own blog- which will find its own audience-- I know I'd visit every once in a while.  

    Ya want a feeding tube buddy? I've got a feeding tube for ya- right here...

    Bush will be impeached.

    by jgkojak on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:22:21 PM PST

    •  Yeah, we read it... (4.00)
      .......they didn't recognize what you wrote as legitimate humor.

      We did, however, recognize it as a cable access channel version of The Onion.

      Dying is easy, comedy is hard.  You think you got a harsh reception here?  Try doing stand-up.  You'll be begging for a few Kossacks in the audience.

      They don't want their kids to pray in school. They want your kids to pray in school!

      by roxtar on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:01:55 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I suppose you ... (4.00)
    ...came here to be praised, not to be buried. Sorry. If you're going to get up on the stage, expect some tomatoes. Most of us like our humor to be funny. Yours ain't. Except this Diary.
  •  A good way to avoid criticism (4.00)
    Step One:  Write Nothing and no one will hate you.
    Step Two:  Continuously repeat Step One.

    The fact is that there is an old saying in Tennessee, well, its in Texas but I 'spose its in Tennessee too:

    You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but don't mess with Texas...er, something like that.

  •  Grow a fucking nutsack (4.00)
    And learn to take some criticism.  When you write satire, understand that a lot of the audience is going to hate it.  You think everyone who read Swift sat back and see "golly gee, this sure is an intereting commentary on the current political system?"

    No, you fuckshit.  They criticized him for making light of baby-eating.

    You think everyone who read 'He Was a Crook' thought it was great that a former president's body should be ejected from a sewage drain?  Of course not!  Plenty of people thought it was hideous, and it was, but it was still funny.

    That's the problem with your writing.  It's simple fucking slash humor, gore and offensiveness and foul language purely for it's own sake.  If you're going to write satire you need a deeper meaning for your humor, and you don't fucking have it.

    So take some drugs and drive to Vegas, you wananbe, because you really need to find a better voice.

    I think they all think that their guy will do a better job, but I think they make dishonest arguments. In their eyes, the ends justify the means. -Jon Stewart

    by Slade on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:27:13 PM PST

  •  Kos, seriously (4.00)
    GET RID OF THE FRUIT DUMPING AD.  We're bleeding Kossacks at a rate I've never seen before.  2 or 3 GBCW's a day; I just can't take it anymore and may have to write my own.

    The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. --George Bernard Shaw

    by Categorically Imperative on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:27:46 PM PST

  •  I'm Sorry, Jeremy (4.00)
    But spring break is over.
  •  So, basically ... (4.00)
    This isn't a typical goodbye rant, as I've already asked the Kos tech people to erase my account in its entirety - thereby assuring that I won't ever be back, and that I really don't want to be here. And I do NOT encourage you to respond. I don't want to stay, and you don't want me here. Just read what I have to say, and leave it alone. Besides which, your comments will, with any small luck, be deleted very soon.
    So, basically, this is a convoluted and odd way of trying to get the last word. [shrug] Welcome to it.

    Proud member of the reality-based minority

    by Bearpaw on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:29:01 PM PST

    •  A passive agressive temper tantrum :) (4.00)

      ...Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things....

      by PhillyGal on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:31:19 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  I'll take this space to point out (none)
      The irony of saying "this isn't a typical goodbye rant" and then launching into the prototypical good-bye rant, by which all good-bye rants shall be judged.

      Raise your hammers high And let the anvils ring! -the Animaniacs

      by Goldfish on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:50:54 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Heh (4.00)
        The irony of saying "this isn't a typical goodbye rant" and then launching into the prototypical good-bye rant, by which all good-bye rants shall be judged.

        This therefore means that the poster's diary was actually a piece of sublimely brilliant irony - his best writing to date. Only, because he didn't realize it, it's sort of like a video of deaf mime getting shot in the forest with silencer while the TV is on mute.

        •  Wohhh (none)
          That has to be the most fucked up and convoluted simile I've ever heard. Have a four, and may God have mercy on your mime-shooting soul.

          Raise your hammers high And let the anvils ring! -the Animaniacs

          by Goldfish on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 11:57:49 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  yeah dude (4.00)
    you write like a wanna be 'Onion' without the humor.  Don't blame us...
  •  Quit worrying what others think about your writing (3.92)
    Who gives a shit what they think?

    Post away.  No one is stopping you.

    This place, first and foremost, is about self-expression.  It's a place that provides you with an opportunity to air your views in whatever format you desire... fiction, absurdist fantasy, reportorial, whatever.

    There is far too much concern with ratings and what others write in response to what we write.

    Forget about it.

    One other note: the "I'm leaving" shit has been done.  To death.

    It's an mebarrassing self-parody at this point.

    Stick around and keep posting and ignore the brick-throwers and naysayers.

    Or don't.

  •  You'll be sorely missed. (none)
    I never read any of your stuff, but I like your approach.  Let me see if I got this right, you post satirical and mean spirited stuff.  People comment that they don't like it.  You get mad that people don't like your stuff and storm off, demanding that the administrator of the site do a bunch of work to ensure that your public comments do not remain public.

    Maybe try blogspot.com, and turn of the option of allowing comments.

    •  oh, and speaking only for myself, (none)
      not the entire Kos community, sorry you were unable to find instant positive feedback, or the ability to take constructive criticism, or the attention you so badly desired, or whatever else it was that pissed you off.

      Would it have been possible for you to just leave without the declaration of dissatisfaction, or did you feel it was important to have your voice heard before you stopped talking to us?

  •  have fun in the heart of nowhere (4.00)
    one thing about your goodbye diary: made the rest of your shit look good...

    guess what? you've already been forgotten. next.

  •  Good (4.00)
    Humor?  Isn't that a brand of ice cream?  ;)

    :rimshot:

    The thing is, you weren't really very funny.  You fell short each time and came off as disjointed and angry.  I couldn't tell which part of your diaries were supposed to be satirical and which part just plain hateful.

    So, don't blame us.  Work on your craft.  Especially your irony and juxtapositions.  Expect failure at first.

  •  Why disconnect account but still lurk? (none)
    ...and read the egotistical rantings of an over-the-hill gang?
    that's what i don't understand.  
  •  Oh! don't be so thin-skinned! (lol) (4.00)

    ...Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things....

    by PhillyGal on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:40:37 PM PST

  •  It is possible (none)
    in any context to write something that people just don't understand, right?  I'm not sure I understand what "satyrical absurd mean" writing is!  So, give us a chance to at least get up to speed on this new genre.  

    There are lots and lots and lots of people on this site, now.  I've only been here for a short while, but it is much, much bigger than when I started.  So...it takes some time to find a group of people that click with your style.  

    Of course, a little tough love in the comments never hurts once in a while.  You want to see ugly?  Try participating in a right-wing blog for a few weeks...

  •  Aged??? (none)

    In the midst of life we are in debt, etc.

    by ablington on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:43:31 PM PST

  •  Public Announcements (4.00)
    Has it become common etiquette to publicly announce one's "leaving" dailykos? With all due respect, if you don't like the site, just don't bother posting or visiting, and if you dare to post a diary, be prepared for unsavory responses. These "I'm leaving" diaries are getting old and just a bit sanctimonious.

    Social Security: No Crisis! Here's your cat of the day

    by Rome890 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:44:35 PM PST

  •  There's nothing like mock outrage (none)
    and thin-skinned righteous indignation for losing friends and alienating onesself from the rest of humanity by making ones' own perspective irrelevant.

    Let's see, mean-spirited fiction masquerading as something important? Sounds like a political press release or partisan attack ad.

    I've been playing here at Kos for maybe a month and I'm having a swell time. I even tend to pontificate sometimes, and, gads, I even take myself seriously at inappropriate times. But, I'm glad those few Kossians who respond to my utterances call me on this self-cenetered crap. Even when I think the criticisms are unwarranted, I still think it's great. If only the rest of the public dialog in the media could be so unfettered.

  •  "I'm creative and misunderstood!" (4.00)
    •  Also... (none)
      I'm beginning to wonder if this is the ploy of a bunch of trolls who decided to derail dKos in whatever means they can come up with. If this is legit, then you're being awfully selfish, and this latest fad of GBCW diaries is beginning to get quite annoying. This hardly convinces me that we're losing anything at all with your absence.

      Ask not what DailyKos can do for you. Ask what you can do for DailyKos.

  •  Have you considered a career in music? (none)
    Have you considered a career in music? You could get a guitar, learn three chords, amplify it, and write lyrics to your heart's content. You could make millions, or not.
  •  A satirist... (4.00)
    ...cannot have a thin skin.  I can see the blood running your veins under yours, dude.  Grow up.

    I was really proud of this.  If you'll notice, you'll see it got 8 comments.  BFD.  

    I'm still here, and I'm still fucking high-larious, goddammit.  You could have regrouped and tried again.  Instead, you did this.

    Though I'm confident once mom comes and changes your diaper, the nice, dry feeling will help salve your discontent and you'll just sign up under another username anyway.

    "O beautiful for spacious skies/but now those skies are threatening/They're beating plowshares into swords/for this tired old man that we elected king"

    by Raybin on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:48:23 PM PST

  •  Suck it up (4.00)
    If you think yourself a writer, you're going to need to learn to accept criticism.  To do otherwise is just to be a narcissist who loves the sound of his own keyboard.

    For an audience of unqualified adoration, it's probably best if you stick to writing for your mother.

  •  Brutally humorless, intolerant! (4.00)
    What the hell do you mean by that?!

    DCDemocrat: Higher editorial standards than The New York Times.

    by DCDemocrat on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:51:59 PM PST

  •  Further proof (4.00)
    ... that Kos should charge $100 to the writer of every "Goodbye Cruel World" diary like this one, and use the money to eliminate the need for blogads.

    You want a Pity Party, you oughta pay for it.

  •  You say goodbye, I say hello (4.00)
    This is obviously the first time a lot of Kossaks have heard of you.  Maybe this is a satirical goodbye note?  If so, it was a good way to get a lot of attention.  Sure got a lot more than all of your other diaries put together.  So, good job!

    I am suspicious, though.  It doesn't really make sense.  Unless you have poor impulse control.  Why do you have to have your account deleted to lurk?  "Quick, take away my account before I use it again."  Are you that afraid of your diaries?

    Hell, I have been here for like 6 months, and have written so few diaries it is embarrassing.  Heck, my first couple disappeared to who knows where...

    But I lurk all the time.  What are you afraid of?  I glanced at you first few diaries just now, and thought that the concepts were clever.  So you must have potential.  I looked like there were only a few people who objected.  Although in the last one I read you were pretty quick to get upset.  I agree with other posters that you take criticism too personally.

    I recommend that you take your own advice and just move on, if you don't like people's comments.  Or just don't read them.  It is up to you.  This farewell and deletion of your account seems pretty dramatic.  If it is fiction, I say BRAVO.  If not.  Good luck in life.

    •  I've been here since only October. (4.00)
      And I haven't written a single diary. The reason? Because I don't feel that I have anything to contribute to the community. When and if I do feel that I've got something significant, I'll share it.

      This diary is nothing more than attention-whoring at its most transparent.

      •  That is a good point (none)
        And you are absolutely right.  There is no real need to feel peer pressure to be creative.  I guess my problem is that I feel I want to contribute because I love this community.  I suppose is what I have to do is find one topic that I believe in to focus on and become an expert.  Right now I want to save the environment, get rid of all nukes, cure cancer, stamp out hunger and poverty and bring world piece.  Ooops, I mean peace.

        It is too much.  Really, I just want to go and have a good organic locally microbrewed beer with a lot of hops.  Wanna join me?

        You made your point more eloquently than I did, and that is why the heckerdoodles does he have to cancel his account so that he can go back to lurking?  

      •  dude (none)
        2 plus years, no diaries.  Plenty of comments, a little criticism, mucho support.  No diaries.
    •  Never written a diary - been here awhile (4.00)
      I haven't written a diary - and currently don't plan to...lots of us lurk and comment only.

      A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier. H.L. Mencken

      by SallyCat on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:05:01 PM PST

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      •  I've started (4.00)
        about a half a dozen...  and then I worry no one will comment on them so I quit and edit my preemptive "Goodbye Kos!" diary.
      •  I vastly prefer (4.00)
        the lurk and comment. Really, only because I'm frankly an unfocused, too-wordy freak for it to be easy for me to write a whole on-topic diary that doesn't descend into a whole heap of crap.

        Hell, I have trouble keeping my focus in a single comment. And half the time, by the time I'm done writing the ridiculously long-winded thing, I post it to find that 12 people have found better and shorter ways to say roughly the same thing, or I find that I've fallen into ridiculous levels of babbling.

        Furthermore, I also think that in the case of the aforementioned comments, to which I have little attachment and through which I say very little (though being pointless is, perhaps and only in my opinion, a valid exploration of... oh, wait. Sorry.

        Yeah, really I should demand tips for not writing diaries.

        •  I am so with you. (none)
          Every time I come across some tidbit of news that I think would make a great diary, I usually sit around for a little bit hitting the refresh button, and it inevitably pops up as a recent diary, and I can be treated to something that was written with much more style than I could hope to achieve.

          But then I can always have a comment ready!  Of course if it is any good, just like you, there are 5 others who have done it.

          Of course it doesn't help that there is no spellcheck...

          •  Or the Diary Police might get you! (4.00)
            If you're really lucky, someone will remind you that a topic was thoroughly covered in a diary a month ago.  Or, "how selfish of you to take up space with something so off-topic" (as dozens of Schiavo diaries continue to scroll by)!  Or even, "if you had spent as many years as I have on dKos, you could recognize the tell-tale signs of a troll as quickly as I can!"

            Recipes!  (Which reminds me, it's time to make dinner).

            "I think it was 'blessed are the cheesemakers.'" ... "it was not to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products."

            by Rusty Pipes on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:37:13 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

        •  Quick! Someone with a UID < 895 come here... (4.00)
          So they can say, "I'm older'n spit!"

          -UID 1854  (2 Diaries exactly, both archived).

          "...And bunnies would dance in the streets, and we would find life on Mars." -Peter Singer, Brookings Institution

          by zentiger on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:04:40 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  Best laugh today except C&J's (none)
    Old - yes maybe at 49 but I'll outlive you because I can laugh at the inanity of the diary.

    The comments here today have given me some full LOL moments - I should go back and mojo the funniest or just save the snark for tomorrow's C&J!

    A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier. H.L. Mencken

    by SallyCat on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:57:22 PM PST

  •  Umm...I was just bored, ya know? (4.00)
    Sorry, jeremymc. I remember reading some of that "pope" satire you wrote.

    I wasn't offended or put out or anything. I was just bored. That's why I didn't comment.

    Normally I wouldn't tell someone their writing is boring...but I thought it's best that you know at least one reader's reaction. It isn't that I don't have a sense of humor - well, maybe I don't, I do speak German after all - but what you wrote just wasn't gripping enough for me to comment or recommend.

    This can be a great place to hone one's writing skills. But you have to be kinda thick skinned.

    :-)

    "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by grannyhelen on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:58:33 PM PST

  •  You never visited CHEERS AND JEERS!! (4.00)
    -
    -
    -

    You want to see a den of total scum and villainy and pettiness and backstabbing and ruthless aggression and weapons of mass destruction and lies and filth and garbage and rage and--hehheh---nudity and flatulence and bickering and grown adults stomping on the crayon drawings of small children and depleted natural resources and utter depravity...???

    Well, buster, you ain't seen nothin' 'til you've gone downstairs:

    The sinkhole

    Have a nice day!

    -
    -

  •  Hey Kid... (4.00)
    ...come back under a new name, post the same crap...and it STILL won't be funny.

    "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything" - Joseph Stalin

    by Blue Shark on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:06:59 PM PST

  •  I don't delete accounts (4.00)
    Sorry to those who wish otherwise, but all accounts (other than a minority of REALLY BAD trolls) are here for ever and ever.
  •  Okay (4.00)
    I think you're being too sensitive.

    I only read Mary Scott O'Connor's response above --- and I pretty much agree with it, with one exception, which is that I've been here for months and still haven't found my groove.

    I may never find it at this rate. Do I care? Naw. Maybe I'll suddenly be overcome by luminous inspiration and brilliance, and want to post it here. It's more likely I'll take a nap, though, and let everyone else be brilliant.

    Look, it's like this: you can't be a writer and be a delicate flower --- or better said, not everyone will like everything about you, including [maybe especially] your writing. It's just how it goes. You put it out there, and you can pretty much count on someone hating it.

    Do you like everything you read? Haven't you read searing, steaming, acrid critique of some of the world's greatest writers of all time? I have. It's just how it goes.

    If your chosen profession is writing, you need to get a tougher skin and more faith in yourself. It won't matter the board, when you put it out in the public eye, someone's gonna critique it, plain and simple.

  •  Greatest. Satirist. EVER. (4.00)
    I just love his parody of "Goodbye Cruel World" diaries. Surely, the man who brought to us all the concept of roach-fucking has shown us the subtlety of his wit in this, his finest satire yet.

    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

    by lilithvf1998 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:20:32 PM PST

  •  Dude, (4.00)
    Nobody reads my stuff. So what? Some people are snappy. Some are understanding. So what? Writing is fun. Thinking in words is good for you. What's nice about a blog is that if anybody does want to respond, you may be forced to think a little more. but don't expect it. And criticism is good. Even mean criticism. If you can't take it, keep it in your head. Good luck.

    "the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad... for the multitude of thine inequity, and the Great Hatred" - violent femmes

    by Tirge Caps on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:21:01 PM PST

  •  Maybe his post is postmodern humor? (4.00)
    I mean, this is by far the funniest thing he's posted so far. Maybe it's some sort of Andy Kaufman schtick?

    However calling everyone humorless has certainly lead to one of the funniest comment threads I've seen in a long time. Maybe by not being ironic, he has created irony. That's post, POST modern.

    Then again, maybe it's just fun to poke fun at random outbursts by diaries written by sociopaths / petulant 12 year olds.

  •  At least you.. (4.00)
    ..got some comments on your diaries.  Mine all died a silent death!  

    "Strength and wisdom are not opposing values" - Bill Clinton.

    by RAST on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:27:19 PM PST

    •  Awwwww. (4.00)
      I have been here a long while and I did one diary that had several comments telling me it was a duplicate.  At least you tried to write a diary.  
    •  I've only done one (4.00)
      diary as well, and it was because I didn't see the subject on the new lists or the rec list and I thought it was important to bring to people's attention. It was read, but only had one comment. I do comments more than I do diaries, and have been very pleased to have gotten several 4's and only one troll rating. Actually, when I get a 4, I go running in to tell my husband.."Sweetie!! I got a 4! Cool, huh?". I enjoy this blog and find it full of interesting people. People with minds, who can articulate their thoughts. That is so refreshing after the "netspeak" on other boards. I find the people here to be open-minded and very tolerant of other points of view. What they aren't tolerant of is stupidity and egotism, which is probably why this jeremy person is leaving. I don't mind that, I am not tolerant of those two qualities myself. That being said, I am now going to go eat dinner.
  •  Jeremy... (4.00)

    Whether you know it or not, you have just become an instant celebrity at Daily Kos.  

    Whether you know it or not, we have just collectively embraced you, warts and all.

    Whether you know it or not, we are a great bunch here, and we'd like you to stay.

    Whether you know it or not, you will never experience a community like this one anywhere else.

    Whether you know it or not, I just put out a huge basket of Bugles and a giant tub of onion dip.  Also, I just tapped a keg.

    Ha!  You're having second thoughts!

  •  Dang! (4.00)
    I'll say this for your diary:

    These are the best freakin' pics I've ever seen on Kos!

  •  Great line (none)
    The simple ability to express their views turns people on this board into instant egotists, turning out their pockets to spread crumbs of learning among the "unwashed masses"

    Great line.  It doesn't take much introspection to see that in my own posts.  If you've got a few more of those zingers left, I'd prefer you rescind your request for account-expunging.

    No, I'm not a FReeper. Thanks.

    by JamesInPDX on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:33:27 PM PST

  •  Steve Gilliard (4.00)
    had a great post this week on blog-whiners like this guy - probably still on the front page.
  •  aged & intolerant? (4.00)
    Ironic words coming from a crybaby.
    I do not like some people who diary but they take their hits like adults.

    Why or why is this sad sack diary recommended?

    When the president does it that means that it is not illegal."   --  Richard Nixon

    by WWWWout on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:40:30 PM PST

  •  Heh heh ... (4.00)
    I skimmed jeremymc's diaries and ...

    he needs a little work.

    But I did kinda like HitlerFreedomJesusTerror (the core of a really good idea.)

    And he called Laura Bush a "meaty poppet" which has been cracking me up since I read it.

    You need to write a lot more, pal, and you are not going to get any better if you get all huffy and upset when people don't like it. Look at the guy who does "Mallard Fillmore." That is a terrible comic. And I'm sure the guy that does it just dismisses anyone who doesn't find it funny as just some humorless liberal. And he never gets better. And "Mallard Fillmore" just stinks up the comics page, looking like something a mean liberal would make up to make conservatives look stupid.

    Laura Bush is a meaty poppet. Ha ha ha ha!  

    America: It's a good IDEA for a country ...

    by Tony Seybert on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 03:47:55 PM PST

  •  Six spice cookies (none)
    Next time you make oatmeal cookies, add the following spices:

    cinnamin
    nutmeg
    cloves
    ginger
    coriander (or is it cumin?)
    dash of cayenne.

    Seriously.  The bite makes for a great cookie!

  •  WAAAAAAA WAAAAAA (4.00)
    Sniffle Sniffle I can't take this liberal, tolerant, understanding group anymore.These people are so mean that they embrace people fobiles and all. The are supportive. They listen and care.
    Sniffle Sniffle
    WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA
  •  SORRY!!!!!!@!@! (4.00)
    sorry we didn't appreciate your genius. it was only because you aren't one, or even near one, and because you just posted "shocking" or "wacky" or pieces as opposed to insightful or entertaining ones. there wasn't any satire in what you wrote, just absurdity that you thought might be funny for absurdity's sake. whoops, were you ever wrong! and now just like an alcoholic who's sure that everyone telling him he has a problem is wrongheaded, you're sure that we're just not appreciating your talent or your style. ooooooooo-k!

    still though, we should have recognized you for the genius you demand to be recognized as, instead we had the nerve to judge you, and had the gall to think about what you wrote instead of finding it as funny as you did.

    so, anyway, sorry that our philistinism toward amateurish provocateur zaniness led to you writing this G.C.W. diary. we'll try better next time with the next self-appointed master of satirical wit.

    •  I gave you a "4" even tho' . . . (4.00)

       . . . you neglected to incorporate the word "madcap" into your screed.  It was otherwise mildly tolerable and, today, I'm feeling generous, though not on par with the great satirists, Swift, Twain, Buchwald, jeremymc, etc. . .

       BenGoshi
      __________________

      Awaiting your calls, Chairman Dean, Senator Reid. Lines are open!

      by BenGoshi on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:11:47 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Internet involvement is not for the feint of heart (4.00)
    I found that out when I first posted to a newsgroup.  dKos is no different. i've been inspired, irritated, praised, insulted, and often totally disregarded more times than you can count.  Why do I stay?  I have no idea, except that I find dKos an interesting community and I like to expand my horizons.  I suggest that before you decide to join another interactive web group you think hard about who you are and what you expect.  People are harsher on the net than in real life.  That is a good thing and a bad thing, but it's never an easy thing to deal with if you are insecure or thin-skinned (and that is speaking as one who tends to be insecure and thin-skinned).
  •  asdf (4.00)
    This isn't a typical goodbye rant,

    Actually, it is.

    "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

    by catnip on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:03:30 PM PST

  •  I think I know what Jeremy is doing... (4.00)

    ...right now.  Ahem.

    REFRESH...REFRESH...REFRESH...REFRESH...REFRESH...

    Oh, I think we haven't heard the last of ya, big guy.  God love ya.

    REFRESH.

  •  Farging Bastich Iceholes! I'm leaving too! (4.00)
    Well I'm gonna go then! And I don't need any of this! I don't need Daily Kos, and I don't need you. I don't need anything except this ashtray, and that's it and that's the only thing I need, is this. I don't need nuthin' else. Just this ashtray.

    And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game and the remote control, and that's all I need. The ashtray, and the remote control and the paddle ball.

    And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I really, truly need, too! I don't need one other thing, not one.

    Wait, I need these matches!! The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure.

    What are you looking at? What do you think I am, some kind of a jerk or something? And this magazine! And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, the matches and this magazine, and that's all I need.

    I'm outta here, Kosmaroons! Goodbye, forever!!!

    ...

    And this chair...

    Tilting at windmills, with the proper armor and enough firepower, can be a productive effort.

    by Serephin on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:06:39 PM PST

  •  we're anonymous here? (4.00)
    holy shit!  all the lost time.

    oops, I know too much about how the internet works to feel very anonymous.

    and I am aged, tis true... I'm 40,000 years old.

    And I just used the word "tis" which is obviously part of that egoism of passing out... not to mention I think you're talking about me when I've never replied to you before or vice versa as far as I know... egotism...!  

    and now my curiosity will demand I read your old diaries, before they are (hopefully not) deleted.

    ok... I only read the titles and a few words.

    satirists need thick skins... I'll leave it at that.

    good luck to you.

  •  Why won't you love me!!?!?!?! (4.00)
    ROFL, OMG first Bob, now this. I'm crying I'm laughing so hard.

    Buying a PC for internet access: $500.00

    Securing Access through an ISP: $20.00

    Posting a goodbye you humorless hateful people at the Daily Kos: Priceless!


    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. -Tom Paine

    by Alumbrados on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:08:43 PM PST

  •  Somebody Call Jesse Jackson (4.00)
    Before they pull the plug on jeremymc.

    We the undersigned urge you to support Federal funding for research using human pluripotent stem cells. -80 Nobel Laureates to Pres. Bush

    by easong on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:11:52 PM PST

  •  So, you think you're the only writer (4.00)
    who ever got a bad review?

    These guys didn't whine and snivel:

    " The most insipid, ridiculous play that I ever saw in my life." Samuel Pepys, 1662, on Shakespeare

    "It is a vulgar and barbarous drama ... one would imagine this piece to be the work of a drunken savage." Voltaire, on "Hamlet"

    Edgar Allan Poe: Reviewers said his work required "some kind of spiritual ablution to cleanse our minds of his disgusting images."

    And if you think this crowd is tough, consider what some professional reviewers have said, in print:

    "... the fairy godparents showered on Mr Spender all the fashionable neuroses but they quite forgot the gift of literary skill. To see him fumbling with our rich and delicate language, is to experience all the horror of seeing a Sèvres vase in the hands of a chimpanzee..." Evelyn Waugh

    "...The covers of this book are too far apart..." Ambrose Bierce

    "...This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly, it should be thrown with great force..." Dorothy Parker

    There's a nice-ninny priest/at tea in everyone,/all cozy and chatty as auntie,/but a saint comes/and throws rocks through the window. -- John Ciardi

    by Mnemosyne on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:12:57 PM PST

    •  "speak, mnenosyne"... just not that! (none)
      don't encourage him! just because you're persecuted or disdained doesn't mean you're right or brilliant. we've had to deal with that martyr's logic for ages with the christians, i don't want it to infect self-absorbed and narcissitic diarists too!
      •  Didn't say (none)
        he was "right or brilliant." Just that better writers than any of us have taken criticism.

        There's a reason the most vituperative book reviews are written by other writers: They know how much better the bad book could have been AND how hard it is to get to that standard.

        Someone else said it here: Bad writers always blame their readers.

        There's a nice-ninny priest/at tea in everyone,/all cozy and chatty as auntie,/but a saint comes/and throws rocks through the window. -- John Ciardi

        by Mnemosyne on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:00:48 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Speaking of reviews (none)
      On one anonymous student evaluations of my teaching, someone once wrote, "If I had only an hour left to live, I would like to spend it in [jiffykeen]'s class, because it would seem like an eternity.

      Couldn't give him or her an A for originality, since I didn't know who it was.  

      •  Probably just as well (none)
        since it sounds suspiciously like something cribbed from another source. Has the ring of, oh, Dorothy Parker about it.

        There's a nice-ninny priest/at tea in everyone,/all cozy and chatty as auntie,/but a saint comes/and throws rocks through the window. -- John Ciardi

        by Mnemosyne on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:32:18 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  new plan for pyrrho (4.00)
    write only goodbye cruel world diaries.
  •  btw (4.00)
    don't think I'm not memorizing who recommended this!

    are you sadists or masochists?

    unfortunatly I'm not good at memorizing and will forget... but in the meanwhile... I know.

  •  I'm outta here! (4.00)
    Oops - I mean - I'm shutting down at work & going home.
    Don't let Bob Johnson pull the plug on his diary while I'm en route.

    -Bobstral

  •  Completely off-topic (4.00)

    Israel ties France in World Cup qualifying

    In other headlines, a splinter group of Fatah people shot at Abbas's headquarters. No one was hurt.
    Three ministerial appointments given out as favors by Sharon were rejected by the Knesset. Bibi criticized the appointments.

    "If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If I am only for myself, who am I? And if not now, when?" (Hillel was a liberal)

    by 4jkb4ia on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:27:31 PM PST

    •  Tonight there's a qualifying match (4.00)
      for the FIFA soccer world championship between Mexico and Panama.

      Now it might be that the Panamanian guys, en masse, suddenly pick up the ball and leave the stadium, their pants all twisted, because the philistine public just doesn't appreciate their artistry with the ball.

      However, this wouldn't get them a ticket to the games in Germany.

      Their privileged existence of wealthy debauchery had not prepared them for the next few moments. Carnacki

      by sersan on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:52:58 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Off-Topic???... (none)
      ...Ya think?

      "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything" - Joseph Stalin

      by Blue Shark on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:53:02 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Also off-topic (4.00)
      Lip piercings 'can shrink gums'

      Having a lip piercing is bad for the gums and can make them shrink back from the teeth, dentists warn.

      The longer people wear the piercing, the worse the recession is, researchers from Ohio State University in the US found - in a study of 58 young adults.

      The British Dental Association reported in its official journal in 2003 of the same risk with tongue piercings.

      Oral piercing - a trend growing in popularity - can cause life-threatening infections and reactions, it said.

  •  Dude... (4.00)
    This is one funny piece of satiric fiction!!!

    Especially the part where you say "The vast majority of Kossacks are brutally humourless, and extremely intolerant".

    Oh god...that's so funny.

    Cause the vast majority of Kossacks didn't even SEE your diaries, let alone comment.

    But the way you generalize and make assumptions about everyone here, based on the 5 or 6 people that commented in your diaries?

    Oh, that's SO funny.

    So satirical.

    Keep up the good work!!!

  •  hmm (none)
    Now I'm really curious to know whether or not this diary was meant to be ironic.

    "I feel your scorn and I accept it." - Jon Stewart

    by starkness on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:30:22 PM PST

  •  Damn (none)
    I think I would rather get roasted by freepers.  

    Anyone here like to burn ants with magnifying glasses?  

    That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me?

    by sommervr on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:31:44 PM PST

  •  What's missing (none)
    OK, these GBCW diaries are a dime a dozen.

    Has anyone ever written a really good "I'm still here" diary?

    Signature goes here.

    by lalawguy on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:33:46 PM PST

  •  Sorry to see you go so soon. (4.00)
    I lurked a long time and totally agree with you that this community has an "old guard". They are well known, well-respected and as far as I can tell, gifted writers. Some of us are better perceived in person, to each his own. But really, I don't think the comments you received were indicative of the group as a whole, there is a diverse group of people represented here. Start your own blog, and stop in occasionally to see "hi". Good Luck.

    When a whole nation is roaring Patriotism at the top of its voice, I am fain to explore the cleanness of its hands and purity of its heart.--Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by rcvanoz on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:34:25 PM PST

  •  Maybe this just isn't the blog for you (4.00)
    It was created as an outlet for political discussion and information.

    Our host generously lets us rant, rave, and review pretty much anything across the wide variety of human experience.  I myself have dropped in the occasional bit of humor here and there while at least trying to keep on-topic.

    But to successfully participate in any blog, one should at least try to stick to the core principles. Serious discussion of political issues from a progressive point of view is what this place is all about. The occasional digression won't kill anyone, but if that's all one wants to do, then perhaps one should find a better suited environment.

    I'm late to this particular piling on party, so in the spirit of things I've avoided reading every last precious word on this thread before adding my $.02. So forgive me if I'm being another boring repeat of someone else's thoughts.

    Bottom line, for me anyway:  examine your ratio of satiric fiction to serious political discussion, and if it's too high (I leave the exact percentage as an exercise), feel perfectly free to piss off and go elsewhere.

    And if your ears are burning and your teeth are grinding, maybe lurking here isn't your thing either.

    He has oil. He tried to kill my daddy.

    by kensa on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:40:21 PM PST

  •  This is a cry for help (4.00)
    And I think we should ignore it.
  •  You fucking facists (4.00)
    nobody gave my last comment any 4's.  I'm out of here.

    The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs and ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was committed.

    by sgilman on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:46:20 PM PST

  •  I just love that (3.80)
    the only diary this guy ever wrote that got on the recommended list, or read by more than 10 people before today is the one where he said goodbye.  It is so perfect.
  •  oh, and by the way... (4.00)
    To my surprise, the vast majority of comments were from people who either wished to use my diary as an advertisment for their own petty egos, or simply to ream me out.

    Like I'd use your diaries as an advertisement for my petty ego. That's what open threads are for! Get with the program.

    "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

    by catnip on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:52:53 PM PST

  •  Your writing. . . (none)
     . . . Needs polish. But you are right about this:

    The vast majority of Kossacks are brutally humourless

    As a group, we are. Seriously. I think most of the left is these days. It's distressing.

    As for the critics, you have to listen, that's how you learn, and also you need to know your audience.

    Humor writing at Kos just doesn't work because of the audience.

  •  30 minute marinara sauce (none)
     28      oz      canned tomatoes
    16     oz     tomato sauce
    5 1/2     oz     tomato paste
    1/2     cup     green bell pepper
    1/2     cup     onion
    1/2     cup     zucchini
    1     cup     mushroom
    1/2     cup     carrot
    1     tsp     basil
    1     tsp     marjoram
    1/2     tsp     oregano
    1/2     tsp     rosemary
    3         garlic
    3     tbsp     olive oil

    1      In a large saucepan, saute bell pepper, onion, zucchini, mushrooms, carrots, garlic and herbs in oil till onion is translucent.

    2       Add the tomato products, breaking up the whole tomatoes.

    3      Simmer for 30 minutes.

    4       Use in any recipe calling for spaghetti sauce.

    "See me age 19 with some dumb haircut from 1960 moving to New York City " - the Walkmen

    by Biggreen80 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:06:05 PM PST

  •  You think you have it bad? (4.00)
    What about me? I've been considering writing a diary with such a rare combination of bitter humor and dazzling command of current events, that it would be forever remembered as a best of Kos and certainly be instantly picked up by Olbermann, and has anyone, I mean anyone, cared at all?
  •  This must be (4.00)
    the longest thread of offensive comments I've ever read on DKos.  At least since the SYFPH diary.

    Dammit, it's like dancing on someone's dead body.  I'm really getting to hate this site.  Doesn't he have some right to dignity?

    This site has turned into a bunch of bullies.

    You have no idea what really matters in my life.

    by Nonpartisan on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:16:25 PM PST

  •  this one time (4.00)
    this one time, on the internets, i wrote about stuff i hated. then people wrote about how they hated what i wrote. so i got mad and left. i hate those people.
  •  lots of these diaries (none)
    Like the diarist, I'm new to the site. Maybe three weeks or so. A month maybe. I wrote one diary and no one responded, but it wasn't Shakespearean prose, either, so be it. I figure you need to interact and get to know people for a while before anyone really cares what you have to say. Sort of like in life.

    Anyways, I am struck by all the "goodbye cruel blog world" (as they are humorously referred to) diaries I've seen just in the last few days. I'm not above an occasional pity party, but come on. Why on earth are they always in the recommended portion? Is it the number of comments on a post that positions someone there -- or an editorial decision?

  •  Whatever Maryscott said up top there (4.00)
    I'm comfortable with it. I'm just adding a comment here because everyone else is. This one is so far down that I don't have to worry too much about anyone reading it.
  •  Well (none)
    you made the recommended list this time.  Way to go out on top!
  •  We may have been a tad (none)
    too harsh on this guy but damn if this wasn't one of the most funnest diaries I've seen.
  •  This place is insane, jeremy (4.00)
    but it gives you power.

    You can now eliminate 500 comments by deleting this diary.

    To thine own self be true - W.S.

    by Agathena on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:55:56 PM PST

  •  Breaking, Bob Johnson is on a feeding tube (none)

    To thine own self be true - W.S.

    by Agathena on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:10:22 PM PST

  •  Strange, but it worked (none)
    "HitlerFreedomJesusTerror" was hilarious. Offbeat, but hilarious.  You don't have the Mary Poppins light and airy writing, but jeez, you wouldn't want to be, would you?  

    Not sure what you see the problem to be, but the Kos community has some deliciously funny people.  Smart and caring too.  Oh, well.  Best of luck.

    Politics is not about ...predictions. Politics is what we create by what we do, what we hope for, and what we dare to imagine. Paul Wellstone

    by bronte17 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:11:33 PM PST

  •  If you want to be a fiction writer (4.00)
    then join a writer's group. There are several online. Here's one, run by Orson Scott Card. If you sign up, they'll assign you to a group and y'all can critique each other's stories.

    If anyone there should happen to want to give you suggestions on improving your writing, well, listen to 'em.

    The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.

    by SensibleShoes on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:22:47 PM PST

  •  Please, please, please, I beg of you (4.00)
    This comment is approximately number 443 on this diary. It is my understanding (I read almost your entire diary, well, half let's say) that you are planning to remove your diary, nay your user account, in what could amount to a matter of hours. I urge you to strongly reconsider for the following reasons.

    Much has been made of the pervasive influence of the ratings system on the so-called Kos community. So-called in that I've never met any of them, have you? Didn't think so. Anyway. In the time it has taken me to formulate a response to your diary, which I will probably at some point finish reading (except you're gonna pull it, shit, no!) I could have made a sandwich or walked my dog. I don't actually have a dog, but it's a metaphor.

    More importantly I invested time in composing this comment, and expect that it should do pretty well in terms of ratings. Will it be one of those Ka-ching 4.00/48 lovefests you sometimes see? Yes. It will. And therefore I beg of you, please don't kill this diary and all the attendant comments. Please don't revoke my mojo, simply to satisfy your personal animus. Or your personal animals. I want my baby to live, is that so wrong. I think I speak for many on this board when I say "Please save mrblifil's comment."

    Thank you. And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. That's for making the age remark at the end (I skipped ahead).

    There is a certain providence in the fall of a sparrow

    by mrblifil on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:23:58 PM PST

  •  anyone who post a comment like this: (4.00)
    * [new] You know what's fucking hilarious? (none / 1)

    This whole bullshit board.  People claim to LOVE HUNTER S.  Oh I love Hunter S.  I'd suck his dick in an instant.  He's brilliant, he changed my life.
    But whenever anyone writes something in that vein of very absurd, brutal, edgy humour-but-not-humour literature, they get fucking shat on by a bunch of uneducated morons.

    by jeremymc on Wed Mar 30th, 2005 at 10:05:53 PST
    [ Reply to This |  none0: Super Troll1: Troll2: Marginal3: Good4: Excellent ]  

    well, i'm glad they are going prevent themselves from posting.

    email: tlawkos@yahoo.com

    by tlaw on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:27:54 PM PST

  •  Parody Song. (4.00)

    Well, heck. The people over at the other Goodbye Cruel DKos diary liked it. I figured I'd try it out here. :)


    When people keep repeating
    That it's over, so good-bye
    When everybody keeps retreating
    Why are they still lingering nigh?
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Get on out

    When everything feels all over
    But nobody gets the clue
    I'll give you a four-leaf clover
    If you'd just clear out of the room
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Let my love slam shut the door

    Truly this comes from the heart
    When O please are we finally apart?
    Try today, you'll find a way
    Come on and give me a chance to say

    Let my love slam shut the door
    It's all I'm living for
    Release yourself from misery
    And while you're at it you will set me free
    That's my love
    That's my love

    Let my love slam shut the door
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Get on out

    When tragedy befalls you
    Don't try and bring me down
    Love can cure your problem
    You're so lucky I'm around
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Let my love slam shut the door
    Get on out

    Republican prayer - Please, God. Let us keep Teri Schiavo's soul trapped in her decayed body for as long as possible. Amen.

    by cskendrick on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:30:05 PM PST

  •  Don't Ever Submit Your Material (4.00)
    For publication with a newspaper, magazine, literary quarterly, publishing company, etc.  If you think you received rough treatment here, wait until you get nothing but generic rejection notices.  And you will, believe me.  Your "Terri Schiavo, Ultimate Fighter" piece is indicative of a writing sensibility that will know nothing but rejection.

    You'll be back under another handle.  In fact, you probably already are here with multiple IDs.  This is the type of diary that gets written by people who spend most of their lives here, imagining themselves to be extraordinarily clever.

    "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

    by JJB on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:33:23 PM PST

  •  jeremymc and His Dog, Checkers (4.00)
    Well, you won't have them to kick around anymore.  

    (Could he be Nixon's great-grandchild?)  <shudders>

  •  current GBCW competition (4.00)
    Oh no! There's another GBCW diary now!
    Mole333 has posted Good Buy: Cruel World

    Wed Mar 30th, 2005 at 18:05:58 PST

    Formerly Eden class world, God-crafted in 7 days. Age estimated at about 6000 years by qualified experts. Slight Homo sapiens infestation gives planet nice "antique" look. "Sfumato" atmosphere means colorful sunsets! Heating system recently upgraded to reduce chill. A bargain fixer upper.

    If interested, contact the dolphins.

  •  Dave - dave don't do that dave (4.00)
    would you like to here a song I learned when I was  first programmed .. Daisy Daisy g i ve me y o ur ans wer dooo....

    Trying to do my part to make the whole world a "reality-based community".

    by cmk on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:38:46 PM PST

  •  When I die (4.00)
    on Kos,

    I don't want you to keep me alive with over 500 'aged and intolerant' comments. I want to go out with lovely recipes and yes menus for my last meal. Delicious menus.

    Now, my last wishes for my end of life on Kos have a written record. <sigh>

    aka Camille

    To thine own self be true - W.S.

    by Agathena on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:03:27 PM PST

  •  Notes from the aged intolerant bunch (none)
    DailyKos is not about me.
  •  asdf (none)
    Dont leave like that...it took me more than a year of just looking around, before I became a member of DKos. There are some here that think that they own and know everything, but they really dont.
  •  This sux! (4.00)
    So I check out this diary and it's this dude whining  about how nobody understands his stuff. So whatever, I go teach a course and then I drive home and I have dinner and take out the trash and I come back here and - this annoying whiner of a diary has turned into one of the most hysterical threads EVER. And I've of course missed all the fun of it, as usual, and now nobody is going to read my astute and superbly funny observations. You people are disgusting! I'm outta here.

    If you cannot convince them, confuse them. Harry S. Truman

    by brainwave on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:35:06 PM PST

  •  umm (none)
    IM POSTING A TROLL COMMENT NOW. RAR!

    Take your message out to the streats. We own the truth, tell it and get others to do the same. -- myself

    by Hari Rothstein on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:42:30 PM PST

  •  n/t (4.00)
    Po 'lil baby.  My heart goes out to you in your time of astronomical self pity.

    How much is that dogma in the window?

    by chautauqua on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:46:43 PM PST

  •  don't worry. (none)
    even though they want you to die, they don't really mean it. they just can't think of a snappy comeback.

    man, if i had a nickel for every time somebody wished a castration, early death, or brain damage on me...

  •  Hilarious (none)
    "goplies" who did yesterdays big "Goddbye Cruel World" diary posted poetry tonight on the NYC Kossacks Meetup diary. He didn't even make it 24 hours. The poetry is sort of strange too, something not quite connected there some where.

    Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain

    by Rolfyboy6 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 08:07:05 PM PST

  •  OK, guys .... (none)
    Granny here had to run to the bathroom three times before I got to the end of the thread.

    May this ode to creativity and belly laughter last forever in the archives.

    jeremymc, if you care about writing, you'll try again. I've been a writer my whole adult life; it never feels good, but it sure is great. I think it's called masochism.

    600 yet?

  •  Thanks for the memories! (4.00)
    48 years and aged, I could only come up with these brutal and ancient  words to express my broken heart.  I have only come to know you tonight, but in this small amount of time I feel as though we have been together for a lifetime.(I don't jest).  I'm so sorry, I am too broken up to post more.  So glad to have known you.

    Memories, pressed between the pages of my mind
    Memories, sweetened thru the ages just like wine

    Quiet thoughts come floating down
    And settle softly to the ground
    Like golden autumn leaves around my feet
    I touched them and they burst apart with sweet memories,
    Sweet memories

    Of holding hands and red bouquets
    And twilight trimmed in purple haze
    And laughing eyes and simple ways
    And quiet nights and gentle days with you

    Memories, pressed between the pages of my mind
    Memories, sweetened thru the ages just like wine,
    Memories, memories, sweet memories

    (by Bill Strange)

  •  Square Peg, Round Hole (none)
    I wrote a couple of pieces of fiction that were satirical absurd and mean.  In that order.  That's what I find funny, so I wrote it in my personal diary, and waited for other like-minded people to perhaps weigh in with what THEY think is funny.

    Perhaps you would be happier at a blog specializing in satire, absurdity and meanness, (in that order) instead of a political blog. Alternatively, perhaps I've read one "goodbye cruel world" diaries too many.  

    Call me humorless.

  •  Welcome and beat it. (none)
    This, my son, is the marketplace of ideas. Democracy in action. A Nielson system for political activism.

    And whether you believe it or not, the cream - as the marketplace sees it - does always rise to the top. Why I myself am closer to being a professional political writer than any of the folks who keep on getting recommended and yet I have never once in my life made the rec list.

    Frustrating? Sure. But frustration is chapter one of The Writer's Guide to Life and if you can't master the art of working in spite of it, well, son, perhaps you should be operating a toll booth.

    Because if you can't handle the frustration of dealing with the bloggers in your own squad, you're not going to be of much help to us as we take on the real villains in this world.

    So, uh, be careful that the door doesn't hit you in the ass.

  •  I'll be leaving Kos Too (none)
    When they pull the plug.

    In fact, if I go it's suicide by mojo. I'm going all the way to the bottom by writing horrible things and spelling every word rong.

    So don't piss me off because i am TheMadMan

    25 page views a day since yesterday The Tom Joad Society

    by TheChanMan on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 08:56:58 PM PST

    •  Suicide by mojo? (3.50)
      Just post "First!" at the top of any thread.  "Frist!" is good, too.

      The zeros will rain down upon you like hammer blows, I promise.

      It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation.

      by martianchronic on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 10:09:17 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  No one made a fuss when I left... (none)
    ...And now I'm back, so if I leave again will I get 699+ comments?

    Truth doesn't take sides

    by KingJames on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:12:36 PM PST

  •  I think we should all pitch in... (none)
    To send Jeremy to the Gannon/Guckert school of writing. It's a bargain at only $19.95, 'cause it's only a 15 minute course (although JimmyJeff tends to run over his allocated 15 minutes).

    I mean, it's a perfect fit--"WaaaWaaaaWaaaaa, nobody appreciates my writing. I don't get no respect. Don't I get to have a future? Why is everybody always pickin' on me?"

    Wait a minute...Jeremy starts with a "J", and so do JeffyJim. And you never see them together.

    Quick...anybody find any nekkid pics of Jeremy on the internet? Did he ever belong to a frat or claim to have 8 inches?

    "I love mankind; it's people I can't stand." --Linus/Peanuts

    by homogenius on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:18:01 PM PST

  •  Waa (none)
    2 weeks to figure out this community isn't your cup of tea?  How terrible.

    Hey look.  One of us does have a sense of humor.

    "But why'd I have the bowl Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

    by Mean Green on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:30:51 PM PST

  •  Farewell, Young Prince... (none)
    We hardly knew ye.   May your epitaph read:

    "He was too good for this corrupt world..."

    Now go get your fucking shinebox.

  •  so many boards so little time (none)
    I love Board Suicides in general and this one has give us a most entertaining autopsy as a bonus.

    What is the DKos policy on Assisted Board Suicide?

    Is it possible to leave a living will to assure that Board support will be withdrawn in case of a persistent vegitative state of posting?  

    (slinking back into my coma-like state of lurkdom, but aware of my surroundings and enjoying the hell out of this community...)

  •  Waaaah (none)
    1 - if you're going to lambaste the entire group collectively, then learn how to spell. The word is spelled s-y-m-p-t-o-m.

    2 - Did you want some cheese with that w(h)ine.

    3 - Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

    Who owns your airwaves -http://www.openairwaves.org/telecom/default.aspx

    by ceres on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:46:39 PM PST

  •  Well... (4.00)
    I looked over some of your diaries...and the subsequent posts.

    Personally, when I find someone doesn't like what I say, I'll defend it - if it means that much too me.  If it's a trivial disagreement or a passing criticism over the use of a word or the turn of a phrase, it doesn't really bother me.  I've learned to deal with negative criticisms.  Sometimes there funny;  sometimes there helpful;  and sometimes the rotten fucker just has a bone to grind.

    Actually, I'll take all the posts I can get.  Feedback helps me become a better writer in many, many ways.

    In fact, Jeremy, nearly all of your posts have each received more comments than my monstrous 15,000 word diary on the Schiavo case, which happens to be some of my best writing in a number of years.

    A writer or artist, etc. sometimes needs to be satisfied with simply provoking a reaction.  But even more importantly, they need to  approve of their own work.

    Of course, when you put something on display - like a diary on a blog - people are going to register their opinions.  That's the marketplace, Man.  You cannot control how they will respond, nor should you try to or even worry about it.

    I understand the desire to be edgy.  And I've seen many attempts to emulate Hunter on this blog.  But people have a strange perception of Hunter as a swearing, hate-filled lunatic.  Did Hunter swear?  You betcha...but not as much as people think - read On the Campaign Trail '72, which I think is a much more complete example of Hunter's scope as a writer.  He comes off as human, sympathetic yet full of self-righteous anger.

    It's clear you wanted to emulate Hunter, and there is no shame in that.  Even Hunter would sit before his archaic Selectric and pound-out the rhythms of his favorite author - Hemingway.  People you emulate are your teachers.  But no one can write like Hunter - he developed his own unique way of playing with words.  If you're going to emulate Hunter, go Gonzo.  Don't try to write like him.

    Finally, don't quit simply because you didn't generate the response you wanted.  You can't control what people think.  Be  thankful that people were sincere enough to be honest with you, no matter how hurtful or insulting it might be.  Ya gotta take it all - the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

    Personally, I'm just happy to have a place to post my own drivel from time to time, no matter how many people never read it.

    P.S.  I love DailyKos - and the Kossacks.  Best blog out there, best writers.  A great dynamic and spirit.  Spearhead of the Resistance...hazah!  

    •  Damn good writers! (4.00)
      And a lot of those too. People that come here with the expectation that their diary and/or their pet cause will go to the front page in just two weeks are bound to be sorely dissapointed...

      Getting the "silver medal", i.e, lots of comments, or the "gold medal", i.e., a recommended diary on any given day is a mix of good writing, relevance of the subject and good luck. The best diary in the world can be missed among hundreds of others: it can be seen but not get top billing because there are other pressing issues or lots of other damn good diaries around. That's life.

      Anything worth doing is worth sticking to it even under criticism or innatention.

      In the future people will wonder why most didn't challenge Bush's excesses
      The truth? Complacency was easier

      by lawnorder on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 11:06:25 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Best advice you could get (none)
      Listen to jaywillie, Jeremy.  He knows what of he speaks.

      I once spent a whole year printing for a photography show, using a difficult and treacherous method.  When it was finished, it was perfect.

      The show went up, the opening went well, then the newspapers got there and absolutely trashed the show - again and again, with great glee and abandon.  They really had fun doing it.  But you know what?  It completely changed my life and work - for the better.  

      Sure, it stung like hell at the time.  And I'm sorry to say, to my everlasting shame, that I initially reacted much like you have reacted to the criticism you received here.  I boohoo-ed and lashed out.  I took my ball and went home.

      But I look back 20 years to that period, and it was the best thing that could have happened to me.  That reviewer did me the biggest favor imaginable, and if I could track her down, I'd hug her.  She pushed me off a track that would have eventually led my work to a real dead end.  Sure it was a brutal lesson.  The best ones usually are.  It was, as they say, a learning experience.  

      I've had many shows, and received many reviews that I've completely forgotten, but that time I was gutted has always stayed with me as the most memorable and positive thing that ever affected my career.

      Perhaps, in time, you will look at this the same way.

  •  Don't forget to DELINK (none)
    What do you do when someone on your blogroll has a difference of opinion with your? Why, you delink them, of course! And don't forget to put a trashcan pic and a big rant to better express your outrage!

    In the future people will wonder why most didn't challenge Bush's excesses
    The truth? Complacency was easier

    by lawnorder on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 10:35:29 PM PST

  •  Let it be known (none)
    That I used my fours sparingly on this diary, because due to it's length, I can't get it to
    load with out turning off the ratings. The only way I could rate comments was by opening them in a new window.

    So for those lucky few of you who received a Goldfish Four(tm) know that your post showed incredible worthiness, or I would not have gone through such hardship to give it to you.

    To everyone else to whom I would have given a four under normal circumstances, know that my heart is with you, even though my four is not.

    Okay, was that sufficient advertising of my petty ego?

    Raise your hammers high And let the anvils ring! -the Animaniacs

    by Goldfish on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 10:55:58 PM PST

  •  Color Me Impressed (4.00)
    Wow... just wow.

    I first saw this thread when I got home from work, a whole 6 hours ago... 6 hours... and I thought about posting, but then I thought 'nah, it's played out -- who wants to be the last one to beat the dead horse?'

    Then, in a fit of insomnia, I log back on and see... well.. this. Close to 700 comments, some of the most impressive snark I've ever seen anywhere... shades of alt.flame in its heyday, but even the alt.flame regs didn't pile on like this.

    This qualifies as some sort of performance art, I think.

    Thank you, jeremymc... thank you for uncorking our subconscious rage, for being our collective scapegoat, our whipping boy, our unwitting pinata (damn, I forgot how to make the squiggly thing over the 'a'), for unintentionally providing me with the best belly laughs I've had since the election. Hope you feel better having finally made the rec list. We finally paid attention. Careful what you wish for...

    And if it so happens that this time I am, in fact, striking the last blow on the horse that's been beaten halfway through to China, well, no shame in that, I figure.

    Epic. Freakin' epic. I love this place.

  •  Ummm, wait a second here..... (4.00)
    Hold it pal, this is not a novel board, nor ASSTR.org, nor a site for fiction.

    This is a political blog, and one of the better ones at that.

    A good number of us cut our teeth on the Yahoo boards, in the rough and tumble world of way out there Cons, Freepers, LGF snots, and a strange collection of anti-semites, Holocaust denial types, religious screwballs, Turner Diaries reading nutcases, Town Hall rejects, Ann Coulter lovers, and Powerline refugees.  Such an environment toughens you up!  

    Humor?  I don't think you understand droll wit vs crude belly laughs.  You want belly laughs and "recommendations?"  Go to Yahoo, but don't say I didn't warn you, about the time some caps lock freeper troll mysogynist laces into you because you don't like a particular Bush talking point.  Grow a thick hide pal, because Kos is one of the nicer open political blogs around.

    As for not getting along, on the first day I was here I ran afoul of armando and was called an idiot, because my position was differing from his.  I didn't run away crying, I dug in my heels and continued on whether Armando liked it or not.  I did not call him an idiot in return because that isn't "me," but I refuse to be intimidated.  You should try using the LGF method to toughen up.  Go there and talk lib, and endure the beating you will get, without calling names back but sticking right to your point, surrendering nothing, and fighting until you get bounced off.  Try it, it's invigorating!

    As for humor, I just look at Bush and realize God has a droll wit all his own!  

    So, adios and hasta lluego amigo.  Novelists should go to a writer's site, not a political blog. Oh, and if you were trying to be a lurker con, monitoring at this site, you chose the wrong site to do that!!!  Try Alternet for that trick, because the folks here are wise to such games.

    So, as Bob Dylan said, "I asked him who he was and why he didn't drive a truck."
    "He said he was Columbus, and I just said, "Good Luck."  

  •  700!!! (4.00)
    I swore I would never post "First" or "Frist", but somehow this seemed different. (Or at least that's what I told myself.)

    "I love mankind; it's people I can't stand." --Linus/Peanuts

    by homogenius on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 07:36:50 AM PST

  •  This could have saved us all a lot of trouble. (none)
    Our Man In Redmond's Fill in the blank Goodbye Cruel World Diary Template!
  •  Jeremy spoke in (none)
         class today (Pearl Jam)

         I hope nobody else cited that; I'm not gonna read the previous 705 comments to find out, either.

  •  Isn't it ironic? (none)
    JeremyMC resigns because nobody likes his work and he's never recommended, and he receives more comments than the rest of his diaries put together and ends up on the rec'list. Brilliant!

    Hey Jeremy, at this rate, your suicide note might make it to the New York Times bestseller list.

    It'll be right behind your laundry list, your 3rd grade "What I Did Over The summer" report, and a doodle you drew on a cocktail napkin, while talking on the phone to Miss Cleo, of rockets blowing up a kitty.

    Some are destined for greatness. Others are destined for a quick exit. See ya!

  •  fuck it's 4.30 am (none)
    over here, i have to get up in a few hours, and this diary has gutted my night.

    jeremy i hate you for this, will you go front page soon?

    you are the ringmaster...no-one has tweaked so many tails with so little input.

    your heroic exit has stimulated the finest snark attack in the history of the internet, whatever woody allen whine you're developing here, it's pure gold!

    you obviously have tapped many peoples' insecurities, reflecting all our common terrors of being inneffectually grandiloquent  gonzomen, doomed to purple cybersuicide notes as our last hope of getting the attention we so deserve.

    yes it's a sobering thought, you have reflected us perfectly, and we have made you pay for touching that nerve.

    perhaps you will take responsibility for that awesome talent to provoke classy snark and perfect that petulance till you can get threads so long they crash everyone's computer!

    thanks for the laffs, folks, i'm a wreck but my cheeks are salty with tears.

    is there some place in switzerland where they can suck all the kos out of your blood and you can like...start afresh???

    why? just kos..... *just cause*

    by melo on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 06:43:10 PM PST

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