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The contents of the Downing Street Minutes confirm that the Bush Administration was determined to go to war in Iraq, regardless of whether there was any credible justification for doing so.  The Administration distorted and misrepresented the intelligence in its attempt to link Saddam Hussein with the terrorists of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden, and with weapons of mass destruction that Iraq did not have.  

In addition, the Downing Street Minutes also confirm what has long been obvious - that the timing of the war was linked to the 2002 Congressional elections, and that the Administration's planning for post-war Iraq was incompetent in all its aspects.  The current continuing crisis is a direct result of that incompetence.  

Many of you have worked hard for the American people, the media and those in government to speak out about the Downing Street Minutes and the Iraq war. If you visit my website, you can join me in speaking out as well:

The policy of "shoot first, ask questions later" took us into an unjustified war, and without a clear concept of what "winning the war" actually means.  

President Bush constantly talks about the "progress" that is being made in Iraq against the insurgency, but he's looking for good news with a microscope.  All anyone can see is "Mission Mis-accomplished" and the continuing losses of American lives, the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis, the torture scandal, and the ominous decline in our nation's moral authority in the world community.  

We know the Administration had been planning to invade Iraq for many months before the invasion actually began.  We know the Administration twisted the intelligence to make the facts fit their plan.  We know that the Administration never really intended to give the U.N. weapons inspectors a reasonable chance to succeed.  The Downing Street Minutes demonstrate that the Administration knew their case for war was paper thin, and that in order to go into war with the support of our allies, we had to demonstrate some willingness to go along with the UN inspection process.  But the Administration continued to misuse its intelligence, distort the facts and pay only lip-service to the UN's role in disarming Iraq.

We never should have gone to war for ideological reasons driven by politics and based on manipulated intelligence.  The Downing Street Minutes provide even more proof that this is exactly what happened on Iraq.  The Administration's dishonesty, lack of candor, and lack of planning have brought us to where we are today, with American soldiers dying, Iraqi civilians living in constant fear, and with no clearer picture of our strategy for victory in Iraq than when we started.

Originally posted to Senator Edward M Kennedy on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:18 AM PDT.

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  •  Give 'em Hell, Senator (4.00)

    "But why'd I have the bowl Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

    by Mean Green on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:19:48 AM PDT

    •  thank you! (4.00)
      Thank you, Senator, for posting at DailyKos. I'm glad to see you talking about this very important issue.

      After Downing Street

    •  Watch out for a the Republican Responce (4.00)
      One arguement that the team from is hearing alot is that many countries believed Saddam had WMD.....that may be true of Chemicals but it wasn't true of Nuclear Weapons.....remember the "16 words" remember the mushroom clouds....when a Republican says the world believed that Saddam had WMD return and say only the Bush admin and Blair thought Saddam had Nuclear Weapons and funny enough it looks like they worked early and hard to fix that info.
      •  Washington Post, Salon 2 New and Great articles (4.00)

        " Far from being a dud, the Downing Street Memo may generate more stories to come."

        Story is not dieing

        Keep in up Senator

        •  Dan Fromkin whats the questions asked (4.00)

          "Bush and Blair will appear in a joint press conference this afternoon at 4:45 p.m. EDT."

          "One issue that Bush -- and Blair -- should be questioned about is the Downing Street Memo in which the head of Britain's MI6 intelligence agency asserted that the White House was already set on invading Iraq in July 2002. See my May 17 column for the background."

          •  the transcript (none)
            Q: Thank you, sir. On Iraq, the so-called "Downing Street Memo" from July 2002, says, "Intelligence and facts remain fixed around the policy of removing Saddam through military actions." Is this an accurate reflection of what happened? Could both of you respond?

            BLAIR: Well, I can respond to that very easily. No, the facts were not being fixed in any shape or form at all. And let me remind you that that memorandum was written before we then went to the United Nations.

            Now, no one knows more intimately the discussions that we were conducting as two countries at the time than me.

            And the fact is, we decided to go to the United Nations and went through that process, which resulted in the November 2002 United Nations resolution to give a final change to Saddam Hussein to comply with international law.

            He didn't do so. And that was the reason why we had to take military action.

            But, all the way through that period of time, we were trying to look for a way of managing to resolve this without conflict.

            As it happened, we weren't able to do that because, as I think was very clear, there was no way that Saddam Hussein was ever going to change the way that he worked or the way that he acted.

            BUSH: Well, you know, I read, kind of, the characterizations of the memo, particularly when they dropped it out in the middle of his race. I'm not sure who they dropped it out is, but I'm not suggesting that you all dropped it out there.

            And somebody said, Well, you know, we had made up our mind to go to use military force to deal with Saddam. There's nothing farther from the truth.

            My conversations with the prime minister was how could we do this peacefully, what could we do.

            And this meeting, evidently it took place in London, happened before we even went to the United Nations - or I went to the United Nations.

            And so it's - look, both of us didn't want to use our military. Nobody wants to commit military into combat. That's the last option.

            The consequences of committing the military are very difficult. You know, one of the hardest things I do as the president is to try to comfort families who've lost a loved one in combat.

            It's the last option that the president must have, and it's the last option I know my friend had as well.

            And so we worked hard to see if we could figure how to do this peacefully, to put a united front up to Saddam Hussein, so the world speaks. And he ignored the world. Remember, 1441 passed the Security Council unanimously. He made the decision. And the world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power.

            •  God. (none)
              Bush is so fucking inarticulate. It's painful. It's embarrassing. The US will never live down having this ignoramus as Prez. Yeah, we didn't elect him, per se, but the fact that it was even close enough for them to steal is cringeworthy enough.


              i like the world it has gravity and that is good

              by LBK on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:56:22 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

      •  and watch for them trotting out HR 4655 (4.00)
        Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Clinton's Statement and saying that this was an authorization for military force.
      •  Remember (4.00)
        • the aluminum tubes
        • the unmanned aerial vehicles
        • the bioweapons trailers
        • Curveball
        • the Prague al Qaeda connection
      •  One other thing (4.00)
        Chemical weapons degrade. They degrade to the point where they're basically useless.

        Saddam's chemical 'weapons' were 10+ yrs old. Most of them were well past their useful life.

        If they even worked, they would have worked exceedingly poorly.

        Even explosives degrade. Even metal. Even guns (especially if they're not maintained) The older the weapon, the less likely it is to kill somebody else, and the more likely it is to kill whoever tries to use it.

        And Saddam's weapons were OLD. Everybody seems to forget that.

        •  Except (4.00)
          ... for the mountains of explosives we neglected to secure at al-Qaaqaa, which seem to be functioning quite well in blowing up Americans and Iraqis in great number since it was looted.  It remains a prime example of the staggering utter strategic imbecility that the "Commander in Chief" engaged in when he forgot to order the securing of one third of Iraq's total weaponry that we knew was there because he thought they didn't have the manpower.

          If one's going to do a very stupid, evil and maladaptive thing like invade a country not in self defense, then at least one could do it in a way that minimized destruction and death.  But no.  We've got a sadistic idiot of the first category running this catastrophe.

          "Force always attracts those of low morality." -- Albert Einstein

          by eyeswideopen on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 11:42:28 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Had a conversation (none)
          with a member of my family, who is a commander of guys in the field, and was involved in the 1st Gulf war (He was in Kuwait BEFORE the first Gulf war started--don't ask, I didn't) before the invasion of Iraq.  He stressed how whatever chemical weapons that Sadaam once had were likely to be unusable.  My worry at that point was:  if we know he has these terrible weapons, why send our troops in there, to be gassed, etc.  I didn't want him, or other people's family members, to die,  Once he mentioned this, it made sense.  A lot of household chemicals would be useless after 10 years.

          another proud member of sanctimonious women's studies set.

          by Time Waits for no Woman on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 06:25:23 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  Or alternatively... (4.00)
        when a Republican says the world believed that Saddam had WMD return and say only the Bush admin and Blair thought Saddam had Nuclear Weapons

        Or reply that yes, lots of people thought that, and also knew our information on the ground was years old, which is why we sent in weapons inspectors.  But when they found nothing significant, instead of believing them, Republicans mocked them because they knew they must be wrong.  The joke's on all of us now.

      •  We know he had chemical weapons (4.00)
        He got them from Us!
      •  well when (none)
        you manufacture evidence so that you can convince people that wmd were there, then you get people saying that they believed that WMD were there

        republican hypocrisy will cause God and Jesus to be as Dead as our Democracy

        by demnomore on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 10:57:44 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  The difference (none)
        Many people "believed" that Saddam had WMD. We were told by this administration that we "knew", that "there is no doubt", that "we have hard evidence". The majority of the folks who "believed" were encouraged us to take the time to make sure. Our administration couldn't have cared less whether or not the beliefs were valid.

        vulgus vult decipi -- Phaedrus

        by fritzrth on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 11:04:06 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Other countries"knew" what they knew (none)
        only because this vile bench told them so!
    •  I hope this isn't a hoax. (none)
      I really don't know but wouldn't his real website be something like ?

      It would be cool to have the real deal posting here on dkos.

      "The diesel engine can be fed with vegetable oils and would help considerably in the development of agriculture of the countries which use it." R. Diesel, 1911

      by nuttymango on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:57:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's registered to Chris Casey (none)
        who is Kennedy's former tech policy advisor.  Looks legit to me.
      •  It's the real deal (4.00) is his campaign website, is the official site for his Senate office.  The Senate site is a good resource, but the campaign site is where we do (and plan to do more) activist organizing, and can have more discussion of the issues.  You'll catch me on DailyKos (and elsewhere) pretty often posting about what we're talking about in the campaign....

        "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die." - Senator Edward M. Kennedy

        by Crystal Patterson on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:09:18 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Thank you! (none)

          "The diesel engine can be fed with vegetable oils and would help considerably in the development of agriculture of the countries which use it." R. Diesel, 1911

          by nuttymango on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:28:54 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Does that mean (none)
          that you were the one who posted under Kennedy's name, or was it some other staffer?

          Big Media is hated by the GOP because they sometimes tell the truth. We should hate Big Media for the other 97 percent of the time when they don't.

          by Ugluks Flea on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:45:49 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Huh? (4.00)
            I said when I'm posting, I do it under my own name.  This diary is from him.

            "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die." - Senator Edward M. Kennedy

            by Crystal Patterson on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 10:18:16 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  Just wondering (none)
              since whoever was posting under his name didn't seem to stick around (for comments), and since you were the first to defend the diarist as actually being from the kennedy camp, I took it as a hint that it was you that posted it for him, and had stuck around to watch.

              If it's not you sent here to babysit his diary comment thread, I sure hope somebody else is.  Drive-by diaries piss people off (like me), senator or no.

              Big Media is hated by the GOP because they sometimes tell the truth. We should hate Big Media for the other 97 percent of the time when they don't.

              by Ugluks Flea on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 12:29:48 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  It's from him (none)
                The Senate is in session, and he has meetings, obligations, etc all day.  If you want to call it "babysitting", then yes, I guess that's what I'm here for, although I'm around on the site pretty often.  

                "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die." - Senator Edward M. Kennedy

                by Crystal Patterson on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 01:07:11 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

        •  This is exactly what Dems need! (4.00)
          The party needs more Senators getting involved with blogging (and more than just on their own sites...if there is one site where they could all blog at the same time, one site where people could go and read instead of 50 seperate sittes that would be ideal...) (ESPECIALLY those who are up in '06 or running in '06) Any suggestion on how to approach a Senator regarding him blogging as well. The more they talk the more people will listen (I work for a campaign, and blogging is a huge issue with me, and I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on how to convince him this is where his campaign should go...)

          Thanks Sen. Kennedy and staff for being on the cutting edge of technology! Keep up the good work!

      •  I say legit (none)
        The contact, Chris Casey, seems to be a solid Dem.

              Chris Casey
              4414 Ridgewood Court
              Montclair, VA 22026
              Phone: 703-897-7746

           Registrar Name....:
           Registrar Whois...:
           Registrar Homepage:

           Domain Name: TEDKENNEDY.COM

              Created on..............: Wed, Jul 16, 1997
              Expires on..............: Fri, Jul 15, 2011
              Record last updated on..: Tue, Mar 15, 2005

           Administrative Contact:
              Chris Casey
              4414 Ridgewood Court
              Montclair, VA 22026
              Phone: 703-897-7746

           Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
              Domain Registrar
              575 8th Avenue
              New York, NY 10018
              Phone: 902-749-2701
              Fax..: 902-749-5429

           Domain servers in listed order:


        •  I think you should delete her contact information (none)
          We do not need to know this personal information.

          What do others think?

          •  four things (none)
            1. Chris Casey is a male.
              Here you can see him in his spa with his daughter (picture from his blog).
            2. This information is publicly available from domain registry data, i.e. anyone can do $ whois or use a web-based WHOIS service to get the same results. It isn't magic or "hacking".

            3. It isn't "personal information". It was used to register Kennedy's main web site in a consultant capacity or whatever.

            4. It is not for you to decide or some decision that a (self-selected, even) majority (that can be polled) can make for others what information others "need to know".
              In this case, it was necessary to validate the authenticity of Kennedy's website.

    •  Absolutely! (none)
      And to that end, I fully expect for you to back up your words with actions.

      "What's this? Maxomai putting a demand on Ted Kennedy?" Goddamn right. I expect leaders to lead, and the best leadership of all is by active example.

  •  Senator, welcome to DailyKos (4.00)
    and thank you!

    "What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-goin' on here?" -- Slim Pickens in "Blazing Saddles";
    "I have more than 2 problems." - the Coach Z

    by AaronInSanDiego on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:20:02 AM PDT

    •  Second the welcome! (3.83)
      We have been working very hard to keep the attention on what this document represents... it will be good to have some "big guns" in the battle as well.

      Look forward to working together on this!

    •  Yes, Welcome (4.00)
      I am proud to call you my Senator.

      Massachusetts: 1st in Baseball, 1st in Football, 47th in Support for Public Higher Education

      by mcinma on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:34:28 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Pleasant surprise to see you here (4.00)
      And thanks for all you do for us!
    •  I'll second that welcome yet again (4.00)
      And add my own thank you.

      But because I know this is a discussion forum, I'll add a question. What do you intend to DO about it, Senator?

      Have you called for impeachment? Have you signed Conyers' letter? Have you encouraged others to sign Conyers' letter? Where were you, weeks ago, when the Minutes came out? Where were you, weeks ago, when the rest of the world and everyone here on DKos was kicking and screaming about the Minutes. We've written letters and begged for media attention on this for weeks, now.

      I ask these questions partly out of frustration with the situation, partly out of actual ignorance (maybe he has done something before this I didn't see), and partly out of amazement at how little it takes from someone of your position to get everyone here fawning all over you. Conyers has been a part of the community here for some time now. Boxer as well. I hope you will continue to be, too.

      But your only action, or call to action was a small form on your website saying we could add our names to your e-mail contact list under the category of "Downing Street Memo." Other than that, you could have cut and pasted every word from your post from other diaries written by the public here on DKos.

      In sum: Thank you for adding your voice to the chorus, Senator, but aren't you supposed to be a soloist?

    •  Great to hear from you on Dkos.... (4.00)
      I love watcing your speeches on Cspan. Give em hell senator, in a way only you can. And remember, we have your back.

      It does not require a majority to prevail, yet a tireless minority keen on setting brush fires in peoples minds. - Samuel Adams

      by historical wit on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:20:14 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Another "Thank You" from here! (none)
      Your leadership on this issue (and so many others), is truly appreciated.  Thank you!

      Beware the everyday brutality of the averted gaze.
      What is the White House Hiding?

      by mataliandy on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:21:34 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Drum Beat (4.00)
    Conyer's letter, this, all of the others on the web and elsewhere: we cannot let this lie.  Ken Mehlman, on Meet the Press, says the Downing Street Memo has been debunked.  We all know that is not true: it has not been challenged at all.

    Keep the drums beating.  Keep on this until this administration begins to accept responsibility for the disaster it knowingly created.

    •  Is there a separate Diary.... (none)
      I heard about Mehlman's comment on Air America (Al Franken's show) yesterday, and still can't believe it.

      Do we have Mehlman's e-mail address, or is there a news story where he even attempts to back this claim up?

      "If we outlaw everything some people find offensive, there wouldn't even be a Texas in the first place." - Cindy Campos, Lifeguard

      by jandrewmorrison on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:13:30 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Classic right-wing media response tactic... (4.00)
        Ken Mehlman, on Meet the Press, says the Downing Street Memo has been debunked.

        It's the same thing conservatives always do when confronted with a question or information for which they have no worthy response:

        When In Doubt, Make Shit UpTM

        (aka, WIDMSUTM)

        Just watch any Bush press convo or a Press Sec briefing and you'll see this rusty tool in action.

        •  "rusty" tool??? (none)
          Hardly rusty... That particular tool is one that they keep well-oiled, well-polished, and well-used.
        •  Thank You Sen. Kennedy! Questions (none)
          Senator can someone look into the info I have listed below?

          "Q Mr. President, if you decide to go ahead with military action, there are inspectors on the ground in Baghdad. Will you give them time to leave the country, or the humanitarian workers on the ground or the journalists? Will you be able to do that, and still mount an effective attack on Iraq?

          THE PRESIDENT: Of course. We will give people a chance to leave. And we don't want anybody in harm's way who shouldn't be in harm's way. The journalists who are there should leave. If you're going, and we start action, leave. The inspectors -- we don't want people in harm's way. And our intention -- we have no quarrel with anybody other than Saddam and his group of killers who have destroyed a society. And we will do everything we can, as I mentioned -- and I mean this -- to protect innocent life.

          I've not made up our mind about military action. Hopefully, this can be done peacefully. Hopefully, that as a result of the pressure that we have placed -- and others have placed -- that Saddam will disarm and/or leave the country."

          Published on Thursday, November 6, 2003 by the New York Times
          Iraq Said to Have Tried to Reach Last-Minute Deal to Avert War
          by James Risen

          WASHINGTON, Nov. 5 -- As American soldiers massed on the Iraqi border in March and diplomats argued about war, an influential adviser to the Pentagon received a secret message from a Lebanese-American businessman: Saddam Hussein wanted to make a deal.

          Iraqi officials, including the chief of the Iraqi Intelligence Service, had told the businessman that they wanted Washington to know that Iraq no longer had weapons of mass destruction, and they offered to allow American troops and experts to conduct a search.

          And the Taliban Offered to Surrender

          Osama bin Laden 6 months before 9/11

          Q    Ari, according to India Globe, the Taliban in Afghanistan, they have offered that they are ready to hand over Osama bin Laden to Saudi Arabia if the United States would drop its sanctions, and they have a kind of deal that they want to make with the United States.  Do you have any comments?

                    MR. FLEISCHER:  Let me take that and get back to you on that.

           To see the question in the White House press briefing transcript, go 1/2 way down the page.

          The theory of lawyering. If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the facts and law are against you, yell like hell.

          Protect Life Bring Home The Troops!

          by arkdem on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:34:40 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  Mehlman (none)
      Mehlman said on Meet the Press that the memo was discredited and it wasn't. Russert called him on it too. Good for Russert for once.
  •  Yes, Welcome (none)
    We are very glad to hear from you.  Thanks for all you do to represent our views that this war is a crime against humanity promulgated on a sea of lies.

    With gratitude,

    an Illinois Democrat

  •  Senator Kennedy (4.00)
    Way to go, Senator!!  I want you to know that I appreciate every minute you spend in the Senate because I know you are looking after me and my family, although you don't know us.  It seems like every time you speak I feel you touching my soul.

    Thank you for everything!

    "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." Voltaire

    by FLPeach on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:27:57 AM PDT

  •  Im glad you are my Senator (none)
    and thanks for posting this here. I look forward to voting for you and for the non-Romney candidate in 06.

    We will see this memo discussed in the Senate, I presume.

    Reigning Welterweight Female Piefighter since 1998

    by ablington on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:35:25 AM PDT

  •  Senator welcome. (4.00)
    Your words are kind for such criminal behavior.
    You could have at least used the word lie. For they did lie.

    Why is it so difficult to say that?

    They lied to the American people, have killed and injured and traumatized thousands of American men and women doing their patriotic duty, killed at least 100,000 Iraqi civilians, destroyed Iraq's infrastructure and poisoned its environment, squandered billions and billions of our tax dollars, made a mockery of American integrity in the world, changed the course of history, tortured Iraqi prisoners, and bound us intractably to an insane situation that they have no idea how to fix because they had no plan, but greed and empire, in the first place.

    That is what they did. Not to mention the aluminum tubes, mushroom clouds imported from Niger, biological weapons labs in weather trucks, fear and trembling, the phony ultimatums to Saddam Hussein to turn over the weapons he didn't have and thus couldn't.

    Nonetheless, you did speak up, and I thank you for that.

    "I mean, c'mon, toughen up, guys, it's only our Constitution and country at stake," she said. "Let's get some spine."

    by Lords on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:35:36 AM PDT

  •  The real smoking gun (4.00)
    that the timing of the war was linked to the 2002 Congressional elections

    We went to Iraq just so the Republicans could win an off-year election.

    That's what drove the timing.  But once they won Congress, they had to follow through with the war they promised.

    I'm glad someone in Congress gets this as well.

    The revolution starts now--in your own back yard, in your own home town

    by TarheelDem on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:36:42 AM PDT

    •  Bush & Radcons want permanent war (4.00)
      That gives them an easy way to loot our treasury with no-bid contracts for their cronies at Halliburton and the Carlyle group.  Plus it give them cover to rape and pillage our national land here in the US, with the compliant RWCM easily distracted by runaway brides, middle aged child molesters, and now a sham trial of Saddam.

      Sen. Kennedy provides a strong opposition voice, it's too bad that he was suckered into supporting the "No Child Left Behind" act with Bush, that should convince him forever that Bush is a total liar who can never be trusted.

      Senator Kennedy- stand up to the Liars in the Bush regime and continue to call them out on their lies!  Our country is under attack from this group of Radcons who will not stop until we can toss them out of power.

    •  that's ridiculous!! (4.00)
      that's like saying the White House pressured Homeland Security to raise the terror alert when it was politically expedient!

      Oh wait...

      "I told them on Inauguration Day. I said look into my eyes: no new enhancements." - President Johnny Gentle (Famous Crooner)

      by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:24:19 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Strategies in Iraq skewed for media points (4.00)
      The chaotic, seat of the pants approach is bad enough. Compounding the misery was the admin's cynical habit of basing military and social strategies in Iraq purely for short term domestic media gain.

      Whether it was devastating Fallujah or half-assing an orderly turnover of sovereignty -- the Iraqis deserved better than having it done literally at a full run on an airport tarmac and losing $8b in the process -- it's clear where Bush's priorities were.

      When the smoke clears it will be baldly apparent how much unnecessary additional misery this War for Spin Points strategy inflicted on Iraqis and the troops.  

      Please sign Congressman Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq.

      by Peanut on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:37:34 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Unchecked imbalances. (4.00)
      The executive, installed by the judiciary, stages an invasion to secure the legislature.

      And now this gripe from the Republican gubernatoral candidate Rossi in Washington: because of the political makeup of the Washington state Supreme Court, which makes it almost impossible to overturn this ruling, I am ending the election contest. The plan to subvert checks and balances is explicit. Judicial partisanship leads to executive caprice leads to legislative corruption leads to judicial partisanship.

      What genuine war could endanger our republic as much as this sabotage of constitutional government?

  •  Well done Senator! (none)
    Sen. Kennedy-- yes, I will go to your website and support this.  This is exactly the kind of back and forth feedback and communication with our pricipled leaders we are trying to establish out here in the blogosphrere.  Welcome.

    "Ah, what an age it is when to speak of trees is almost a crime for it is a kind of silence about injustice" (Brecht)

    by tsackton on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:38:12 AM PDT

  •  Dear Senator (none)
    You're my Senator, and I am proud of you!!

    Working hard to bring this issue to the unions and professional associations.  Working hard to break through media blackout.  Working hard to support Congressman Conyers in his drive to get 25,000 signatures to his letter.

    Thanks for joining us, Senator!

  •  Welcome to Kos, Senator! (none)
    We hope to see you often.  Keep fighting for us!

    Of course he's written in the Lamb's Book of Life. He's the Antagonist.

    by ultrageek on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:40:25 AM PDT

  •  Today, I go for my citizenship test in Canada, but (4.00)
    Dear Senator,
         Today, I go for my citizenship test for Canada, but I do it because I intend to return someday to the Texas.  I am so proud of you, Senator for defending my country, the United States and the people who reside there.  I am very happy to see that you are speaking out in this matter and are a true champion of the American people. I hope you know that I am behind you all the way as many others are.  For your efforts in this matter, I thank you as a representative of Americans abroad around the world.  We are the ones who have to walk the streets among the citizens of other countries outside the borders of our great nation.
  •  Thank you (4.00)
    from a Georgia Dem who's tired of the Zell Miller's of the world in this party.  

    You've got to get this going in the media.  They too are part of the problem for they perpetuate the lies of this insane Administration.

    You are a breath of fresh air.  Keep it up and debunk the right wing talking heads and the incompetent, lazy, media.

    My best to you!

    HotFlashReport - Opinionated liberal views of the wrongs of the right

    by annrose on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:40:35 AM PDT

  •  Thank you Senator, you are one of my heros (4.00)
    Please find a way to make this issue resonate with the American public.

    For me the heartbreak of this election is the fight to save Social Security.
    ....I thought we'd be fighting for universal health coverage.

    by katiebird on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:41:07 AM PDT

  •  Welcome Senator (none)
    I have always supported you.
    Unfortunately my Senator is Frist and I have no representation in the Senate.

    Thanks for all you do.

  •  Thanks for all your years' of work (none)
    And I'm stuck with Tom Cole!
  •  n/t (none)
    Well said.  Good luck keeping this in the forefront.  It IS that important.
  •  Thank you, Senator (none)
    I'm glad to see Democrats being a true opposition party again. But not only that, for standing up for the TRUTH.

    Veritas vos liberabit...

    Blog this! Visit me at K Street Blues. It will change your life.

    by AggieDemocrat on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:45:45 AM PDT

  •  Not only to go to war (4.00)
    but to go to war 30 days before the mid-term elections.

    This episode far exceeds any wrong doing by any president in the history of this country.  This should not be a partisan concern.

    If pro is the opposite of con, then what is the opposite of progress?

    by nupstateny on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:45:52 AM PDT

  •  Thank you, Senator Kennedy (none)
    Please continue to bring this material in front of the media and the public. The pattern of propaganda and provocation has to be exposed if we are to achieve a safe and peaceful world.

    When the Republicans stop lying about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. --Adlai Stevenson

    by seesdifferent on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:47:03 AM PDT

  •  Thank you Senator (4.00)
    for joining us.  May I suggest that the Democrats start playing this up, on message all the time.  Let's not forget to hammer home the immorality of lying, the immorality of murder, and the immorality power lust.  

    Every speaking engagement, everytime there is a microphone or a camera around, entered into the Senate record at least once an hour, every moment of the day, bring up the Downing Street Memo.

    "America when will we end the human war?" - Allen Ginsberg

    by Teacher Toni on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:51:10 AM PDT

  •  Ted (none)
    Could you please sing "Danny Boy" at the next inauguration?

    Common sense isn't that common - Voltaire

    by obgynlover on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:51:26 AM PDT

  •  Senator Kennedy (4.00)
    My family is right in the middle of this.  My husband has had one tour in Iraq.  Seems like they really want to get him set up for another and we have a very disabled child who has at least two surgeries a year right now.  Sometimes I get very worn down by it all, then something happens and I come up fighting again.  Our military and its families are being abused by George Bush's Iraq situation!  Thank you for fighting for us and please fight on, things are getting grim for many of us.
  •  WELCOME and THANX. (none)
    Senator Kennedy.
  •  Thank you, Senator (4.00)
    The revelations that President Bush and PM Blair upped bombing attacks in 2002 to "goad" Saddam Hussein into war is one of the uglier aspects of this story in my view. In should not be overlooked what that small piece of this terrible puzzle implies. To lie to go to war--ugly any way you look at it. To kill in order to bolster the lie--unfathomable.

    Anything by Loudon Wainwright III

    by Earl on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:52:50 AM PDT

    •  Apart from the fact that (4.00)
      if you are bombing someone, then you are ALREADY carrying out an act of war. And a possible (and understandable) reaction by the receiving party to that bombing would then be construed as a "reason" to declare (retroactively) war on them?

      These are truly warped, evil minds at work here.

      "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

      by Donna in Rome on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:21:34 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  There was a discussion (4.00)
      either in the minutes, or in the BBC transcript about the need to "wrong foot" Saddam.  This, and trying to manipulate the weapons inspectors, and the double-bombing campaign was all a concerted and organized effort to provoke Saddam Hussein into war, so a declared war would somehow be justified.

      it didn't work.  no weapons, cooperation with inspectors, no 45 minutes, no AlQuada connection, none of it.

      the other thing is that this war in Iraq was costing, as of a few months ago $ 4 billion to continue.  And what was the intel and defense budget to cook intelligence, and double bomb in 2002?

      this is international crime, and US crime.  you can't fraud the people and use their money to do this kind of crime.  

  •  We MA Dems (4.00)
    are glad you are our Senator. Keep up the pressure on those who lied to take us into an unjustified and unjustifiable war.
  •  I welcome you but ..... (4.00)
    I know you can do more!

    I have been a supporters of your for a long time.

    I feel you have tempered your tone way too much in recent years and probably listened to the consultants and not the people.

    We need some one like you to get moving on enlightening the public on the next scam from the right Health care.

    And to be much more forceful on Social Security and exposing the notion that if we don't privatize Social Security the children will suffer. This is bull!

    The defined benefit of Social Security is just what everyone children needs to guard against the vicissitudes of life.

    And We need you to say that this whole thing is because Bush and the GOP have run up astronomical deficits that they do not want to pay the Social Security funds back that the tax cuts took away.  Please Senator, I beloved in your family, your brothers; especially Robert.

    Please get back to his principles and fight harder from your core.

    I am an African American Woman born in 1959 that was totally inspired by the Kennedys. Many African Americans remember the hope that was created then. Now they same people that opposed that hope being created then are now crushing the life out of the people that made a little progress.

    I welcome you but I want more.

  •  I can hear "Pills" Limbaugh now! (4.00)
    The old pill-popper will have a fit of mock apoplexy and second Mehlman's contention that the Downing Street Minutes are "debunked."  

    Denial, above all, denial!

    Face it, Bush lied, troops died, Iraq is a disaster, and America suffers for it.

    The media is a pack of cowards, the Beltway establishment is a gang of jackals, and America dies slowly.

    Thank you Senator Kennedy for picking up the Downing Street Minutes, but until our sad excuse of a media picks up and runs with the Downing Street Minutes story like the Toledo Blade did with the GOP "Coin Scam" in Ohio, I fear the story will be drowned out by the sputtering, fuming, denial, and just plain old lying of the right wing noise machine.

    "same old fears, same old crimes-we haven't changed since ancient times.." "Iron Hand" Dire Straits

    by boilerman10 on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:01:21 AM PDT

  •  Dear Senator Kennedy: (4.00)
    You are not my Senator, nor were your brothers.  However, your family is solely responsible for my becoming politically active ohh so many years ago.  The legacy of "Camelot" still reverberates with many of the children of the 60s, myself included.  Although there have been disagreements over policy and voting, the passion and love of country shown by the Kennedy family as a whole has kept them warmly in my heart.  

    Now more than ever we need your particular brand of passion and patriotism.  The Bush regime is ruining this country that we love.  The young members of the Senate need your leadership, wisdom, and council.  

    "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine Pay attention Georgie - 1600+ dead Americans, 100,000+ dead Iraqis, all on your head. WWJS?

    by Miss Blue on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:02:51 AM PDT

    •  I second this (none)
      My earliest childhood memory is of JFK's assassination.  I wore my RFK button proudly in middle school, and cried when he was killed.  I attended the Kennedy School of Government, and I know that the noble notion of public service was instilled in me largely through the example of your family.

      God bless you.

  •  attn Kennedy staff (4.00)
    On the page after you sign the petition ( there are a few typos.

    The first sentence has a typo:
    I thought you might want to join me in askin your Senator to speak up....

    The second one just ends with "and we":
    They were secret minutes taken at a meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Balir in which they claim that the Bush Adminstration had made the decision to go to war in Iraq and we

  •  That does it. I'm moving to MA. (4.00)
    Okay just kidding. Various circumstances hold me in PA at least a little while longer. But I wish PA had great Senators like Massachusetts!!

    We need to restore what Washington has lost -- fundamental common sense. - John Kerry, 5/27/05

    by MH in PA on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:03:31 AM PDT

  •  Welcome and thank-you, (none)
    Thank you for posting. You sir are a Lion with one tough hide. Keep up the good work
  •  Thank you, Senator.... (none)
    for joining us on this issue.  Your name will add visibility and prestige.

    But I am left with a simple question after reading your post:  "And......?"  What are you calling for?  Do you feel that the DSM provides credible proof that Bush deliberately lied(not distorted, mislead, concealed, but lied) to the American people to lead us into an illegal war?  Do you believe that this is in impeachable offense?  

    You call on us to act by asking our Senators to ask Bush for an explanation.  And then what?

  •  No, we know more. (4.00)
    Never mind "planning" long before they did it.  The Administration, along with the Brits, started the invasion in September of 2002.
    Although the official line continued to be that we were flying random sorties to take out radar and missile installations that "lit up" the planes patrolling the no-fly zones, sending in 100 planes on one mission in September of 2002 (which was reported by the Christian Science Monitor, BTW) is the beginning of an invasion in my book.

    3-D Republicans=division, deceit, debt

    by hannah on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:15:08 AM PDT

    •  Planned years before (4.00)
      and just looking for a pretext, by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) These people are dangerous, and patient...but they believe in their theories about the middle east.

      as Iraq Shows, "In theory, theory and practice are the same. In Practice, they're not"

    •  Absolutely (4.00)
      And for a nice timeline regarding deployment and preparations, please visit and scroll down to the September 16, 2002 dates.

    • Prior to Congress' October 10, 2002 joint resolution,
    • Prior to UN 1441 on November 8, 2002.
  •  Hell, I'll recommend this just because... (4.00) properly says "Downing Street Minutes" instead of "Memo."  Thank you, Ted.  Um, may I call you Ted?

    If the Bush administration actually gets away with their scheme to shoehorn facts around policy, it will be the biggest stain on our history after slavery.  Well, slavery and our historic treatment of women.  And our treatment of native Americans.  And Watergate.  And the Great Depression.  But not Teapot-Dome, necessarily, because there were many fine advances in teapot technology that came out of that.  But the bet.

    Thanks for dropping by.  Please make it a habit.

  •  Dear Senator Kennedy (none)
    Thank you for taking this action!  I have signed and will forward the link to others.  Can you please ask your staff to correct the "invite your friends" email.  It has some misspellings and errors.


    I thought you might want to join me in askin your Senator to speak up about the Downing Street Minutes. They were secret minutes taken at a meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Balir in which they claim that the Bush Adminstration had made the decision to go to war in Iraq and we (we what?)

    Senator Kennedy is speaking out about this memo, ask your Senator to do the same:

    Senator Kennedy said the following about these Minutes:

    "The contents of the Downing Street Minutes confirm that the Bush Administration was determined to go to war in Iraq, regardless of whether there was any credible justification for doing so.  The Administration distorted and misrepresented the intelligence in its attempt to link Saddam Hussein with the terrorists of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden, and with weapons of mass destruction that Iraq did not have.  

    In addition, the Downing Street Minutes also confirm what has long been obvious - that the timing of the war was linked to the 2002 Congressional elections, and that the Administration's planning for post-war Iraq was incompetent in all its aspects.  The current continuing crisis is a direct result of that incompetence."

    Please stand with Senator Kennedy and as your senator to speak out:


    "...give no quarter; fear no shadows; and make the mountains tremble." Dr. William F. Schulz

    by Shaniriver on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:19:56 AM PDT

  •  P N A C (4.00)
    We also know about PNAC, which was essentially BushCorp in exile, pushing for an Iraq invasion at least as far back as 1998.

    This business will get out of control. It will get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it.

    by Omar on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:20:19 AM PDT

  •  The Senator the right loves... (none) hate! I'm glad you're on our side! Thank you and keep fighting for the people!

    Wage Peace! here:

    by MichaelPH on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:21:59 AM PDT

  •  WaPo's Jefferson Morley on DSM & Bustani (4.00)
    Courtesy of a catch I found over at DU:

    The Downing Street Memo Story Won't Die

    By Jefferson Morley Staff Writer
    Tuesday, June 7, 2005; 9:18 AM

    More than a month after its publication, the so-called Downing Street Memo remains among the top 10 most viewed articles on The Times of London site.

    It's not hard to see why this remarkable document, published in The Times on May 1 (and reported in this column on May 3), continues to attract reader interest around the world, especially with British Prime Minister Tony Blair visiting Washington Tuesday.


    "Two weeks later, Bustani was ousted, with British help," Hanley wrote.

    Far from being a dud, the Downing Street Memo may generate more stories to come.

    It's gaining momentum folks. :o)

  •  Thank You, Senator Kennedy! (4.00)
    Thank you for taking up this cause. We love our country and we're sick and tired of liars carrying the day in the United States of America.

    Senator, please do what you can to rally your Senate colleagues from both parties to demand that the President of the United States come clean about what he knew and when he knew it.

    We have a lot of "support the troops" rhetoric in this country. I can think of no better way to support them than by demanding they have a commander-in-chief who tells the truth and only sends them into harm's way when absolutely necessary.

    Fight like hell, sir. The truth is on your side -- and so are we.

  •  'Fess up (4.00)
    Senator, this is really a staff person, right?  I mean does Senator Edward Kennedy really browse these internets stirring up trouble and marching in lockstep (c. Elizabeth Dole) among the "angry liberal left" and who claim
    that "the French are right," calls the people who work at the Pentagon "idiots," labels Colin Powell "a liar," and describes the President as "a moron." The site also claims "there is no such thing as partial birth abortion."

    Sounds pretty right on to me, too.   Senator Himself or not, thanks to you and the crew for stopping in and welcome aboard!
  •  I add my thanks for posting here Senator (none)
    We need more dialogue not duologue in this country.  Here is a safe place to begin.
  •  Senator, a few question if you don't mind. . . (4.00)
    On your website, You encourage us to ask our senators to speak out on the Downing Street memo, as follows:
    <<Please ask your Senator to speak out about the Downing Street Minutes.

    Senator, please speak out about the Downing Street Minutes and ask the Bush Adminstration to explain the contents of the memo:>>>

    I have to believe that since you posted on Kos as opposed to Free Republic, you wanted to reach progressives, and Democrats. I also think that most Republicans are not very interested in seeing their senators speak up about the memo. To this extent, I think you meant pressuring Democratic senators.

    So my questions are: Don't you think something is very very wrong when a Senator (you) has to go to the people to prevail upon them to entreat their representatives in the senate to speak up about what could be criminal behavior? Isn't that what they promised us they'd do when they asked for our votes?

    Don't you think that this lack of spine by your colleagues is as  harmful to our democracy that Mr Bush's lies?

    Your request painfully confirms the fact that you feel that the Dems in the senate have lost their nerve. Isn't this then a state of affairs so disgraceful that it needs to be addressed forthwith among Democrats?  Some self examination is in order, don't you think?

    Bush's behavior was so outrageous, that no one in power, no one with influence should have to be asked or pressured to speak up.

    "I mean, c'mon, toughen up, guys, it's only our Constitution and country at stake," she said. "Let's get some spine."

    by Lords on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:31:18 AM PDT

  •  Thank you Senator Kennedy! (4.00)
    I am thrilled to see leaders in Congress on this site. I have seen Congressman John Conyers, Sen Barbara Boxer, and Sen Russ Feingold as well. Thanks so much!  This is a very good way to get messages out!

    Health Care For All!

    by erich398 on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:32:50 AM PDT

  •  Thanks Senator (4.00)
    I appreciate your work in getting the word out about this.  Over the weekend, I attended the Jackson Day event in Nashville, TN.  I asked Rep. Cooper's asst about the Downing Street Minutes and if they signed Congressman Conyer's letter.  She did not know about it.  She told me they are mainly concerned with TN issues and issues of defense.  I was quite surprised.

    Thank you for doing this.

  •  Senator Kennedy (none)
    You give me hope that we might turn this country around.  Sometimes it feels as if we rant and rave on this site but our voice is not heard and we spin our wheels unable to move forward.  Please, please stay with us and talk to your fellow senators to get involved with this that we feel is one of the most important issues to date.  We were misled into war and the American people deserve much better.  In fact, the Iraqi people deserve much better.

    In the end, only kindness matters. -Jewel

    by japeechen on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:34:56 AM PDT

  •  Greetings, Senator (none)
    I met you many years ago during the Dewey Canyon demonstrations.  You have never flagged, nor ever failed us when it counts since then.

    The busheviks must be subjected to their own talking-points water torture on this.  Every Democrat on every chat show, at every public appearance should not fail to mention Downing Street.  Drip, drip, drip.

  •  We've got your back, Senator (4.00)
    Just as you have always looked out for ours.

    Welcome to the DailyKos... where we're going to do all we can to help elect some more Democrats in 2006 for you to caucus with.

    If Christianinty is about the power of love... and right-wing politics is about the love of power... how can the "Christian Right" be anything but an oxymoron?

    by Malacandra on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:41:16 AM PDT

  •  Thanks very much - and come see us!! (none)
    Senator, we'd love to have you speak at a multi-county dinner about this very issue as well as any other issues you feel are important to progressive Americans.

    This area has traditionally been blue, but is swinging red in no small part because of the local press and its incessant promotion of the right-wing agenda.  We'd love to have you get the base here fired up as only you can do, get them back in fighting mode before the election year begins.  Somebody must cut through this fog of war that has hung like a pall over this country for too long -- since January 2001, in fact.  Somebody of your gravitas must help us cut through the noise and tell it like it is: this administration lied and 1600+ troops died for that lie, as evidenced by the Downing Street Memo.

    (P.S. Former Congressman J. Bob Traxler has been trying to contact your offices regarding this invitation!  Come see us!)

  •  recommended (none)
    This is great to see this gaining attention in the senate.
  •  I love this site! (4.00)
    Great post, Senator.  There is obviuosly a lot of support out here for an investigation.

    Impeachment may truly be in our future.

    Isn't it treasonous to fix intelligence?  Is this a high crime?  Or just a high misdemeanor?

    The war on terror is brewing around the world.  America has real enemies.  Shouldn't we have focusing on a multi-pronged approach to abating our real enemies?

    It reminds me of the early days of sea piracy.  The separate states had to band together and that is one of the reasons our country was formed.  Against a common enemy.  The world can do the same.  Instead of making more enemies with our policy (such as legalizing torture), we should be making MORE alliances and treaties, and using diplomacy more than ever.

  •  Wow. (4.00)
    This is fantastic.  I`m glad that it`s not just ultra-left "fringe" people who are aware that the Bush administration was pushing to invade Iraq long in advance of the ball being started in public.

    Please take this and go with it.  This was an appalling act of mass murder, someone needs to face justice for it.  Though I know nobody will ever be put on trial for warcrimes over this, even though they should, something needs to happen, somehow.

    Don`t worry. Mushroom Condi promises to "control" John Bolton. That means he`d be a great ambassador to the UN.

    by Smyslov on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:12:49 AM PDT

  •  Thank, Senator, for your service to the country. (none)
  •  Welcome, Senator Kennedy (none)
    I am always more hopeful when I see our elected leaders take "face time" to communicate to the body politic directly, instead of just through the filter of soundbites, press representatives, and distant cameras.

    Keep fighting the good fight.

  •  Thank You (none)
    Senator Kennedy,

    Thanks for standing for peace.  Please work to send our dear leader to a fair international tribunal to face appropriate war crimes charges, and to put this country back on a course where the rule of law is respected.

  •  It is great to hear Senator Kennedy speak out ... (4.00)
    ... but I still wonder how Bush & Co. could have hoodwinked all those savvy folks in the Congress into voting for the war, when hundreds of thousands of us (few of whom where experts in international politics) could see right through this ruse.  

    I knew from the very start that the Iraq "threat" was b.s. I also could see quite clearly how the Bush administration had used 9/11 to consolidate power in a sinister way.  

    Why were most of the Dems hypnotized by Bush & Co?  Why couldn't they stand up to them from the start?  

    Now that the Downing Street Memo has surfaced, they are tentatively taking a stand ... this is good, very good, but I think many of them have been sitting on their hands, waiting for the tide to turn before stepping forward.  

    May all beings be free from fear.

    by shakti on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:20:19 AM PDT

  •  Now what? (none)
    I can't get through to the website but I'm hoping that, when I do, there is an answer to the question: Now what?

    Acknowledging that this issue exists does not really mean much to me. While I deeply appreciate the Senator's office communicating with us, I'd like to know what Sen. Kennedy is going to do about the DSM?

    Is Senator Kennedy communicating the importance of the DSM to his colleagues? What is his course of action? does he have one?


  •  Nice to see you, Senator (none)
    You're one of my favorite Democrats, and one of my favorite Americans.  On the off chance that you or a staffer take a look at these comments, let me ask this:  Just how many 'smoking guns' does it take to get the truth out???  

    The Downing Street minutes don't contain new information -- they confirm what we already knew.  We knew it from Paul O'Neill.  We knew if from Richard Clarke.  Heck, we knew if from Paul Wolfowitz's interview with Vanity Fair.

    At this point, it's smoking arsenal!

    "Unk, the big trouble with dumb bastards is that they are too dumb to believe there is such a thing as being smart." -- Kurt Vonnegut, The Sirens of Titan

    by Roddy McCorley on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:25:08 AM PDT

  •  Press Blair/Bush TODAY (none)
    Isn't there some way to get one brave press person to ask Blair and Bush today, when they are standing together in front of the cameras, to respond to the contents of the Downing Street Minutes? It would be a moment that changed history. Perhaps the question could be something along the lines of " Mr. President, Prime Minister Blair,  the recently released transcript of the Downing Street Minutes indicates that you intended to attack Iraq prior to any resolution or investigation by the UN. As we now realize, the original justification for the attack was unfounded and subsequently, thousands have died  and continue to do so in your efforts to overthrow a sovereign government. Could you please respond?
  •  Bush is a criminal and a liar. (4.00)
    He launched an illegal war against a nation of people - not just one man named Saddam.  Instead of a dictator violating the dignity and freedoms of his people, disappearing them into prisons to be tortured, raped and psychologically dehumanized, our troops are doing it - per the orders of Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and George W Bush.  We neuter our ability to fight terror by committing the same acts as those whom people of conscience fought against for their liberation.  How can the Bush administration be Iraq's liberators if they're Iraq's substitute torturers?

    If there's anyone in the Senate with the knowledge and personal strength to speak out against this administration, it is YOU, sir.  I am a proud North End resident and LUCKY AS HELL to be able to live and work in a state with such strong progressive public servants.

    "Liberals" are the good guys.  There was nothing conservative about the American Revolution.  There was nothing conservative about the abolition of slavery, women's suffrage, mandating the education of all children, standardizing the work week or providing overtime pay for employees, social security, or the development of the scientific method and the freedom to use it. There is nothing conservative about equal opportunity.  Progressive and proud, we get things done and then conservatives go back and take the credit for them, as if it was their grand philosophy of greed, fear, unsustainable growth and bigotry that somehow got us to this more bearable place and time in our history.  They did nothing then and do nothing now but work to stop the progress of man toward a more perfect realization of equality and peace.  They should be ashamed.  And they should be further ashamed to ally themselves with these warmongering neo-conservatives, who seem to think, in a particularly Dominionist way, that the best way to liberate people is to kill them.

    I am pleased to see your staff posting on this board and hope you actually do read all these comments.  Please, debunk the Bush Administration's lies at every chance you get.  I worry our polite sensibilities are only going to get us mown over in the 2006 elections.  I think it's time to fight fire with fire: call out Bush as a liar and encourage all Democratic Senators and Congressmen to do so as well.  We who post on Daily Kos are already doing so at the dinner table with family, out in the streets at rallies, and in every forum we can find to persuade people with the truth.  It's time we hear it echoed more strongly in the halls of Congress.

    Dems taking advice from the GOP about how to make a better Dem Party is like McDonald's taking advice from Burger King on how to make a better Big Mac.

    by deep6 on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:34:31 AM PDT

  •  Thank you Senator... (none)
    ...for your statement and support.

    Be the creature. (But not a Republican.) blogomni

    by boran2 on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:41:39 AM PDT

  •  Thank you Senator Kennedy (none)
    I'm from Michigan (home of some very wonderful Senators) but I always feel like you are on guard for me as well.  Thank you for visiting here.

    "This is how liberty dies -- to thunderous applause." - Padme Amidala

    by marjo on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 09:47:14 AM PDT

  •  It's time to get... (4.00)
    all Dems on the same page. House and Senate.

    Bush lied.

    Say it loud, say it proud.

  •  Hoax? (none)
    I clicked on the link and it sais "page not found". so i went to and got a linux test page. i think mayhaps we've been duped.
  •  Thank you Senator Kennedy (none)
    and Welcome to dKos!  What a treat to log in and see your diary at number 1!  I was trying to get some work done, and thought I might not log in today at all!  Well, this proves you can't miss an hour around here!

    Thank you for your efforts on the Downing Street Minutes, and for the form to send to my Senators.  I have the perfect words for the comment box in your form at home, so I will do it tonight!

    Please sign Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq.

    by OLinda on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 10:00:27 AM PDT

  •  thank you and 2008 candidates take (4.00)
    note....Now is the time for the 2008 Dempcratic hopefuls  to redeem themselves for the Iraqu war vote....I still believe that many Democrats should have asked more questions than they did...should have thrown caution to the wind with their political careers and voted NO to Iraq....Should have know that the case was week.... SO if you want to be president, now is the time to stand up and be counted and demand a REAL investigation....which undoubtedly will lead to impeachment.
    Also Senator,,,,,if I were able to wish for the most fair law of the land it , it would be as follows:
    Any yes vote for war by any government official, should warrent that at least one of their children of military age (21-40) must be enlisted to fight at the front.  That means that the Bush girls, Chelsea Clinton, the Kerry girls would need to be fighting this GREAT THREAT to our freedom.  I wonder if the vote for the Iraq war would have been vastly different....No longer can people close their eyes to the plight of the enlisted men...eventually W is going to run out of fine print to keep them in....How could anyone trust the military and enlist?  This war has made us anything but secure.
  •  What? No Tip Jar! (none)
    Or is this just a Drive-by Post?

    Glad to have you on the site Senator and to know that some Beltway Democrats are talking about the DSM.

    "... I love watching you work. But I've got ... my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder and Gilder to frame for it. I'm swamped." The Princess Bride

    by Rusty Pipes on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 10:08:47 AM PDT

  •  Thank you Senator Kennedy! (none)
    The cynical lies told by this administration to wage a war of political expediency cannot go unnoticed by the public eye.  Please speak out and CONTINUE to speak out on our behalf Mr. Senator.

    Thank you so much for your strong condemnation of the Bush administration today and for your continued strong positions on the Senate floor.  I am proud to call you my Senator.

    Please let us know - your constituents and your followers from - how we can continue to help you make the President and his minions responsible for their duplicitous behavior; the unneccesary suffering of thousands of American service men & women and their families; and untold innocent Iraqi men, women and especially children.

    Stand strong - we are behind you, Mr. Senator!

  •  Plan of Attack (4.00)
    Does anyone remember Bob Woodward's Plan of Attack book?  It was not that long ago -- April 2004. The book details the decision by the Bush administration to go to war in Iraq.  And it details the manipulation of intelligence to back up their juggernaut.  While I agree that the Downing Street Minutes provide new evidence, the documented story of corruption hasn't changed for a long while now...

    Anyway, I'm glad to see this action taken now.

  •  Crystal, you may want to visit (none)
    Wilfred's diary regarding today's (ahem) 'debate' on "The View" between Rosie O'Donnell and Sean Hannity. Kossacks are developing some interesting frames regarding the Invasion of Iraq to counterframe current right-wing rhetoric on it.
  •  Thanks (none)
    and welcome. Appreciate all that you do for truth and justice.
  •  Welcome! (none)
    Our Dem Senators make us proud!

    Every man for himself.

    by JLFinch on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 10:35:06 AM PDT

  •  Ted Kennedy on dKos? Oh, crap! (4.00)
    There goes all our credibility.  Now whenever someone cites dKos as a source, conservatives can just respond, "Oh, that's that socialist site Ted Kennedy's affiliated with, isn't it?  You shouldn't listen to them, they just want to raise your taxes."  No offense, Senator, and you're welcome to hang out here, but would you mind using a pseudonym to avoid embarrassing us? (for instance, I'm really Noam Chomsky)

    Kidding aside, it's awesome to see elected representatives interacting with their constituents in such a pure and direct way.  It's  sad that we've got such a perfect, readymade tool for governmental transparency, and yet most officials won't touch it for fear of being quoted out of context when they're up for reelection.

  •  Thank you (none)
    for posting Senator. Thank you as well for pointing out one point of the minutes that I don't see being trumpeted nearly as loudly as it should, that the Iraq war was cynically political from its inception. Timing a war to coincide with an election? That alone should be evidence enough that the primary reason to go to war was no more than a desire to be at war for political gain. Disgusting.
    Call them out, Senator. Keep fighting the good fight. Welcome.

    Why is it so hot in here, and what am I doing in this handbasket?

    by justme on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 10:47:59 AM PDT

  •  Senator, I know... (none)
    ...that you're a dedicated American public servant, but could I possibly entice you to come up north and be the Canadian Prime Minister for a while? We could really, really use you right now.

    Thy hand, great Anarch! lets the curtain fall: And universal Darkness buries All.

    by Dunciad on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 10:50:17 AM PDT

  •  Sen. Boxer had the DSM (4.00)
    put into the record, after reading part of them, during the confirmation hearing on the new Iraqi Ambassador.  You can watch it at CSPAN.  The link to the hearing is on the right, just below the recent programs link.  Her questioning starts at 1:45.
  •  The one thing they should NOT (none)
    be allowed to get away with is claiming that "everyone thought Saddam had WMD" and hence yada yada yada.

    Because the Minutes suggest otherwise. The Minutes suggest they knew the evidence was weak and they wanted to massage the intelligence (or use some other provocation) as an excuse for war. And we all knew this before the war started. Which is why I was at every protest rally I could attend, and why I attended city council meetings urging my city to pass an anti-war resolution.

    This war in Iraq sets a very dangerous precedent. The Administration pretended there was an imminent threat ("mushroom clouds o'er Manhattan!") and used the imaginary threat to invoke its (essentially) emergency powers.

    Even if you accept the new rationale that Saddam had to be removed because he was an evil tyrant, the latter cause is one which the Constitution (and International Law) clearly dictate must be decided not by invoking emergency powers but by a deliberative body. The Congress would have to declare war and the Security Council would have to vote for a war. The law is very clear on the subject.

    The Iraq war represents lawlessness, of the kind that (to me anyway) borders on Bush declaring himself Emperor. The US armed forces are not to be used at the personal discretion of the President (or the PNAC).

  •  From a red state here... (none)
    Born and raised in South Carolina, and I can say that as far back as I can remember, people tried to tell me Ted Kennedy represented all that was wrong with the Democratic Party and with "liberals."

    They only say that because they're scared.

    The fact that our big guns are stepping up must mean that this story has been reviewed, picked apart, and tested for validity, and that there's something there.  I applaud the Senator's willingness to be a leading voice in this matter.  I applaud the Senator's candor in the face of the Administration's notable lack of it.  I applaud the community for pushing this story so hard.  

    Keep up the good work.  Keep up the leadership.  Light the fire!

  •  Thank you Senator for your leadership (none)
  •  good to see you here, Senator (none)
    I'm a constituent (30 year resident of Massachusetts) and very proud of all the ways you stand up for us on Capitol Hill.

    Please keep the pressure on about the Downing Street minutes.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.

    by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 11:27:52 AM PDT

  •  Edward Kennedy on Senate floor (none)
    Don't know what he is talking about yet.
  •  GO Kennedy!! (none)

     Ted Kennedy should run for President.

     He represents the last era in which America
     was a great nation.  He could avenge the murders of his two brothers and the Bush-Cheney-Neo-Con cartel by making the type of sweeping foreign policy changes that would put those guys out of power.

      But, why only Kennedy on this fundamental issue?

     Where's Kerry? Where's Boxer? Where's Clinton? Where's Reid? Where's Feingold? Where's Jeffords?  Where's Leahy?  Where's Byrd?

       The day the whole Democratic Prty really gets on top of the Downing Street Memo is the day that we will finally set the stage for a 2006 victory  ( that is, if we also have election reform )

       Kennedy has the right strategy - NOW ATTACK!!

  •  You are the very best (none)
    ...that we have.  May you live forever in good health and energy.  You are the heart and soul of the Party of Thomas Jefferson.  

    "Force always attracts those of low morality." -- Albert Einstein

    by eyeswideopen on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 11:49:43 AM PDT

  •  Muchos gracias, Senator Kennedy (none)
    I'm honored that, in about a month, you'll be my Senator. I got a job at MCLA in North Adams.

    Keep pushing this.


    Walk In Brain - the finest blogging in my apartment building.

    by Wes F on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 11:50:30 AM PDT

  •  Glad you're doing this, Senator (none)
    I hope you find people's comments useful.

    Personally, I think it's time to call the president a liar on the Senate floor. More in sorrow than in anger, of course. It's also about time someone called for Bush's resignation on the grounds of incompetence.

    If Democrats simply told the truth about Bush and his crowd, rather than pussyfooting around, they'd win big.

    I hope you also consider how dangerously close to fascism we're getting. Dave Niewert on Orcinus has some pretty good analysis.

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

    by expatjourno on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 11:52:37 AM PDT

  •  Thank you. I'll sign (none)
    We like you.
    Thank you for sticking up for our rights, our moral authority and our lives.

    1984: Orwell wrote a cautionary tale. George Bush mistook it for a manifesto.

    by mungley on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 12:00:27 PM PDT

  •  Call Bush on this personally, Senator. (4.00)
    The next time you are in the same room with Bush, Senator Kennedy, please remember your constituents (all across America not just in Mass.), and call BUSH A LIAR TO HIS FACE. For the Tuesday evening news.

    When the spineless toadies of the MSM see that someone can say this to Bush's chimplike face, and the sky does not fall and lightning does not strike the speaker dead, it may have a salutary effect on the bootlicking whores.

  •  Has Bush EVER (none)
    said ANYTHING TRUE?  Hasn't everything he said been a lie?
  •  Thank you Senator Kennedy (none)
    You do your faith, your country, your family and your state proud.

    Keep up the good work.

  •  Sen. Kennedy (none)
    Damn, you inspire so many of us.  Always have (except for that little scene at MSG in 1980, for which we forgive you).  You are an inspiration virtually everytime you choose to stand forward on an issue.  Thanks for taking up the DSM cause.  We HAVE to call the bastards into account for this.  If we don't, there is little else in this democracy of any value.  
  •  Is this not... (none)
    ...a High Crime or Misdemeanor?

    "Anyone who isn't a conspiracy theorist these days isn't paying attention." -Paul Revere

    by Blue Shark on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 01:34:10 PM PDT

  •  Go Senator!! (none)
    Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!

    And thank you!

  •  Conyers (none)
    Crystal:  Is the Senator coordinating with Congressman Conyers on this?
  •  Thank you, Senator Kennedy (none)
    Welcome to DailyKos! I am very happy to see your participation at this site.
  •  Bush/Blair (none)
    Randi Rhodes just played a clip of Bush's press conference live with Blair, and they got a question about the DSM and they both lied their asses off.


  •  It gives me hope to see others joining (none)
    with Representative John Conyers in demanding answers! Thank you Senator Kennedy, you continue to be one of the few leaders that I truely admire.
  •  Teddy my man! (none)
    Lifelong Massachusetts resident here (with the exception of 4 years in the USAF), you've been my Senator since I was 7 back in 1962.  I was born and raised in a Mass. Republican family (old Western Mass swamp Yankees), so of course I grew up with more than a bit of Kennedy vilification, but sir, you have aged like fine wine and became one of the great Senators.  Thank you for standing up so long and so often for what is RIGHT, not just what seems popular at the moment.  Thank you for holding aloft the banner of liberal and progressive traditions and values when all too often you own party abandoned and bashed them.  Thank you for consistantly making me proud to be from Massachusetts!  
  •  Senator, I take it you will be (none)
    standing with the Gold Star Families on June 15th.  Right there is the human embodiment of this story.  Human interest is what ingrains a story into the collective conscience of the nation.

    Thank you for your work on behalf of the TRUE American ideals of honesty, fairness and justice.

  •  Thank you Sir! For all the good (none)
    work you have done for the common man and woman!!

    We heart you!!


    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones"

    by roseeriter on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 03:39:22 PM PDT

  •  Sen. Kennedy is was a pleasure to read your post (none)
    I feel that this effort is really starting to get some legs. Please continue to tell all of us how we can help to bring this Administration to justice. A Congressional investigation is of the highest order. Please help to bring it about.
  •  Signed and Fowarded! (none)
    Here's the note that I added:

    These minutes confirm what we already knew.  The Bush administration demanded that the intelligence community supply them with faulty intelligence to justify an unnecessary war, and then they used lies and distortions to terrorize the American people into believing that the war was necessary.  They fired and punished those in the intelligence community who dared to disagree with them, and then turned around and blamed the intelligence community for their "catastrophic success."  

    Now we know what "catastrophic success" means.  It's not double-talk after all!  It's being successful at deliberately engineering a catastrophe that lines the pockets of Bush and Cheney's greedy war-mongering friends.  That's what they set out to do, and they have been successful.  

    Please help us put a stop to the right-wing extremist war profiteers who have hijacked our country.

  •  I don't know if youare actually the senator or not (none)
    but I want to say I am with you here today in memory of Bobbys death.  Please accept my sincerest sympothy for this anniversary.  Thank you.  Thank your brothers efforts to give us peace in thisworld
  •  Thank You, Senator Kennedy!! (none)
    Since I live in the fine red state of Tennessee, contacting my Senators is a futile effort. Frist answers me with the same form letters that he sends to his supporters. I knew he was running for pres when he started answering me at all. He never answered me at all for the 14 months my husband was in the desert with the TN National Guard. Maybe Bush's antics will be enough to turn TN blue again! (I'm dreaming)
  •  What's more... (none)
    Please see this diary about the organization of the "Impeach Bush" rally in NYC. We need your help!

    Please recommend so that we are not lost in the night!


  •  Senator Kennedy Doesn't Wind-Surf (none)
    Having watched the few, but significant, members of Congress post here at Kos, I've been waiting patiently, for my Senator to 'get it'.... recognize the value of putting the message out via kos (or any progressive blog site) - despite main stream media...  

    Unless, I am completely senator, the most recent presidential candidate...has yet to post - here - or anywhere.   While, my senior senator,...once again, as he has throughtout my lifetime...shows that he is truly, a man of 'the people'.  

    Senator Kennedy --- I can't thank you enough for so many years of service - for average Americans and all of us in Massachusetts.   My earliest memories are of President Kennedy and Bobby.  The impact has been immense.  You continued the legacy and it is greatly appreciated.

    I also thank Carolyn for the 2005 Profiles In Courage Awards... It definitely sent a message... even if MSM didn't cover it.

  •  Thank you for this, now KEEP the heat on. (none)
    I visited the link and sent the message to my Senator, and sent several emails to friends and family to do the same (even some shrub supporters)

    It's time for this to get out and damage the neocons in congress.

  •  I dance with glee (none)

    The left should be on the left, not on the right or center.

    by ThanxAl on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 06:45:22 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, and the Congress stood by... (none)
    ...and let this happen.

    Impeach every last one of them along with the Chimp. I wish people would stop acting with respect to the Congress which SOLD US OUT and let thousands die, and now when it's safe start peeping about it, like abused children happy that tonight when Daddy came home to drunk to beat them before he fucked them and passed out.

    Too little, too late, Senator, for those who are dead or whose lives have been shattered.


    -- Eleftheria i thanatos! (Freedom or death!) ~Greek national motto

    by Eleftheria on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 06:59:53 PM PDT

  •  Maine used to be part of Mass. (none)
    I wish we still were so I could call you my Senator. We love you here in Maine. Come up anytime and have a lobstah!

    And thank you, you dear, dear man.

    Your hands are shaking, Popinjay!

    by Maine Atticus on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:49:58 PM PDT

  •  If DSM forged, Bush still a near traitor (none)
    My fear is that the Rovies have forged the DSM and gotten Kossites excited about them in a new effort to show us up.

    I think the thing to focus on is that, no matter what the Bushies believed when they were organizing the war, they have committed acts of negligence that are tantamount to treason by:

    • Taking us into a tough battle with one-third of the strength that Republican military advisors said we needed.

    • Sending our troops into battle without proper protective gear.

    • Refusing to publicly attend the funerals of our war dead or visited wounding soldiers in the hospital.

    • Destroying alliances that have taken decades to build.

    • Causing the price of crude oil to double.

    • Refusing to act on global warming.

    • Nominating John Bolton, one of the least diplomatic people in government, to succeed John Danforth, one of the most respected people in public service, as UN ambassador.

    • Moving in May 2001, when it was clear that Al Qaed was a serious threat, to get the U.S. out of a major world anti-money-laundering pact on the grounds that it would invade savers' privacy. (The Bushies were objecting to the idea of nations sharing databases of saver information. The Bushies argued that nations should provide information only in response to international requests for information about specific individuals.)
  •  I should have known (none)
    it would take Senator Kennedy to begin the Iraq War truth process.

    Keep going Senator!

  •  More Thanks (none)
    Senator Kennedy, My applause.

    Truthtellers are getting so darn rare on the floor of the Senate.

    Is Senator Kerry planning some remarks? If not, you have my permission to give him a good spanking.

  •  I know this has been said (none)
    by others, and far more eloquently than I, but Senator, thank-you.
    Thank-you for honoring us with your participation.
    Thank-you for all you've done for our nation in the past.
    Thank-you for all you continue to do.

    News is what powerful people don't want you to hear. Everything else is publicity.-Bill Moyers

    by jazzmaniac on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 08:53:35 PM PDT

  •  Question: (none)
    I have been following DSM discussions and I read the minutes.  It strongly implies what we all know, that Bush and company wanted to take out Sadam and manipulated intel to make the case.  I struggle with one point.  As I understand it, an opinion that the US was fixing intel was expressed, but no actual evidence.  What am I missing?  Can we really look at this as a "smoking gun"?  Is it because the opinion came from the British government that an opinion is enough?    
  •  no reward for compliance (none)
    Saddam got an ultimatum to comply with disarmanent resolution.  He complied.  He did not have WMDs and he dismantled rockets that were on the borderline of what he was permitted to have.

    So we invaded him.

    What other country will cooperate?  We have to cut deals with Iran and North Korea, but we cannot because we cannot be trusted.

    We announced that we will bring democracy to Iraq and afterwards we will change the face of the entire region.  Now we complain that Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran could do more to stop the insurgency.  After telling them that there are next, what do we expect?

    One of the problems of basing official policy on lies is that you have to exclude and alienate all that disbelieve.  In this case, they included France, Germany, all friends in the Muslim world, our own State Department and the more competent generals.  That done, only sycophants, idiots and zealots remained to work out the details.

    Thanks, Senator.  People like you allow us to have hope that at some point in the future our policies will be moral and rational again.

  •  So Senator.. what are you (other Dems) doing about (none)
    First of all Sen. Kennedy thank you for "coming to the masses" to let us know that this issue has your mind share.
    From the diary that you have submitted, you seem to have articulated many of the same things mentioned in these pages in the past month or so.

    My question to you is this... What are you (and other elected Democrats) going to do about this?

    If these lies to Congress and to the American people to take us to a war where thousands of people have lost their lives is not grounds for impeachment then please inform us as to what is!
    Time to hold the administration accountable Senator.. we need your leadership now.
    Thank you.

    Bush 04: Leave no child a dime

    by nitster1 on Wed Jun 08, 2005 at 12:34:34 AM PDT

  •  My first vote for president (none)
    was in the California primary in 1980.  I voted for Senator Ted Kennedy.

    From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

    by DCDemocrat on Wed Jun 08, 2005 at 05:43:39 AM PDT

  •  Done! (none)
    But then, my Senators are Jack Reed and Linc Chaffee.
  •  Welcome and Kudos (none)
    In a time when "liberal" is a dirty word and "patriotic" means willing to suppress the Constitution we welcome you to our ranks in the blogosphere.  Keep fighting for us and for the princples which once guided our nation and still represent all that is best about it.

    "Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - after they have exhausted all other possibilities." Winston Churchill

    by LondonYank on Wed Jun 08, 2005 at 09:04:53 AM PDT

  •  Washington Post article (none)
    Here is the Truthout link to the Morley article about the Downing Street memo story (and why it won't go away):

    DSM article

    It quotes Conyers who compares the DSM to the Watergate break-in ... a seemingly small story that had much larger implications.  The article seems like an invitation to investigative journalists to, well, investigate.  Imagine that!

    May all beings be free from fear.

    by shakti on Wed Jun 08, 2005 at 11:58:24 AM PDT

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