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Not often talked about is how the traitor Robert Novak also exposed Plame's CIA Front Operation that she helped run: Brewster-Jennings & Associates (this phony company has nothing to do with the real Brewster Jennings, a founder of Mobil Oil).  OVer decades, the CIA had built up the fake firm and through it insinuated agents to keep an eye on not only WMD, but also ARAMCO, Saudi Arabia and their oil production and politics.  Hundreds of agents have worked for Brewster Jennings and Associates.  Traitor Novak emperiled all of their lives and the lives of their informants.

Now the US is flying blind--just how Cheney wanted it.

Much more on the flip!

Edited to reflect DeTocqueville's post on making clear the difference between Brewster Jennings the person and his identity theft by the CIA to create a prestigious-sounding name plate for the cover operation.

Not only was Plame's cover blown, so was that of her cover company, Brewster, Jennings & Associates. With the public exposure of Plame, intelligence agencies all over the world started searching data bases for any references to her (TIME Magazine). Damage control was immediate, as the CIA asserted that her mission had been connected to weapons of mass destruction.

However, it was not long before stories from the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal tied Brewster, Jennings & Associates to energy, oil and the Saudi-owned Arabian American Oil Company, or ARAMCO. Brewster Jennings had been a founder of Mobil Oil company, one of Aramco's principal founders.

According to additional sources interviewed by Wayne Madsen, Brewster Jennings was, in fact, a well-established CIA proprietary company, linked for many years to ARAMCO. The demise of Brewster Jennings was also guaranteed the moment Plame was outed.

It takes years for Non-Official Covers or NOCs, as they are known, to become really effective. Over time, they become gradually more trusted; they work their way into deeper information access from more sensitive sources. NOCs are generally regarded in the community as among the best and most valuable of all CIA operations officers and the agency goes to great lengths to protect them in what are frequently very risky missions.

By definition, Valerie Plame was an NOC. Yet unlike all other NOCs who fear exposure and torture or death from hostile governments and individual targets who have been judged threats to the United States, she got done in by her own President, whom we also judge to be a domestic enemy of the United States.

Moreover, as we will see below, Valerie Plame may have been one of the most important NOCs the CIA had in the current climate. Let's look at just how valuable she was.


According to an April 29, 2002 report in Britain's Guardian, ARAMCO constitutes 12% of the world's total oil production; a figure which has certainly increased as other countries have progressed deeper into irreversible decline.

ARAMCO is the largest oil group in the world, a state-owned Saudi company in partnership with four major US oil companies. Another one of Aramco's partners is Chevron-Texaco which gave up one of its board members, Condoleezza Rice, when she became the National Security Advisor to George Bush. All of ARAMCO's key decisions are made by the Saudi royal family while US oil expertise, personnel and technology keeps the cash coming in and the oil going out. ARAMCO operates, manages, and maintains virtually all Saudi oil fields - 25% of all the oil on the planet.

It gets better.

According to a New York Times report on March 8th of this year, ARAMCO is planning to make a 25% investment in a new and badly needed refinery to produce gasoline. The remaining 75% ownership of the refinery will go to the only nation that is quickly becoming America's major world competitor for ever-diminishing supplies of oil: China.

Almost the entire Bush administration has an interest in ARAMCO.

The Boston Globe reported that in 2001 ARAMCO had signed a $140 million multi-year contract with Halliburton, then chaired by Dick Cheney, to develop a new oil field. Halliburton does a lot of business in Saudi Arabia. Current estimates of Halliburton contracts or joint ventures in the country run into the tens of billions of dollars.

So do the fortunes of some shady figures from the Bush family's past.

As recently as 1991 ARAMCO had Khalid bin Mahfouz sitting on its Supreme Council or board of directors. Mahfouz, Saudi Arabia's former treasurer and the nation's largest banker, has been reported in several places to be Osama bin Laden's brother in law. However, he has denied this and brought intense legal pressure to bear demanding retractions of these allegations. He has major partnership investments with the multi-billion dollar Binladin Group of companies and he is a former director of BCCI, the infamous criminal drug-money laundering bank which performed a number of very useful services for the CIA before its 1991 collapse under criminal investigation by a whole lot of countries.

As Saudi Arabia's largest banker he handles the accounts of the royal family and - no doubt - ARAMCO, while at the same time he is a named defendant in a $1 trillion lawsuit filed by 9/11 victim families against the Saudi government and prominent Saudi officials who, the suit alleges, were complicit in the 9/11 attacks.

Both BCCI and Mahfouz have historical connections to the Bush family dating back to the 1980s. Another bank (one of many) connected to Mahfouz - the InterMaritime Bank - bailed out a cash-starved Harken Energy in 1987 with $25 million. After the rejuvenated Harken got a no-bid oil lease in 1991, CEO George W. Bush promptly sold his shares in a pump-and-dump scheme and made a whole lot of money.

Knowing all of this, there's really no good reason why the CIA should be too upset, is there? It was only a long-term proprietary and deep-cover NOC - well established and consistently producing "take" from ARAMCO (and who knows what else in Saudi Arabia). It was destroyed with a motive of personal vengeance (there may have been other motives) by someone inside the White House.

From the CIA's point of view, at a time when Saudi Arabia is one of the three or four countries of highest interest to the US, the Plame operation was irreplaceable.

Third clue: Tenet's resignation, which occurred at night, was the first "evening resignation" of a Cabinet-level official since October 1973 when Attorney General Elliott Richardson and his deputy, William Ruckelshaus, resigned in protest of Richard Nixon's firing of Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox. Many regard this as the watershed moment when the Nixon administration was doomed.

Ruppert Article

Here's Madsen on Brewster Jennings, so take with a grain of salt, but very informative and seems to be true.

U.S. intelligence sources have also said that Fitzgerald's investigation has gone far beyond the mere leaking of Plame's name, itself a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, but has expanded to look into the exposure of Plame's colleagues who worked under the cover of a CIA firm called Brewster, Jennings & Associates. The "brass plate" CIA proprietary had offices in Boston and Washington, DC. Active since 1994, Brewster-Jennings was instrumental in tracking the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) and had agents or correspondents in a number of countries including Iraq, North Korea, Belarus, Russia, South Africa, Iran, Israel, China, Pakistan, Congo (Kinshasa), India, Taiwan, Libya, Syria, Serbia, and Malaysia. By releasing Valerie Plame’s name, other agents' non-official covers were blown and the lives of U.S. operatives within foreign governments and businesses may have been placed in danger.

Therefore, Fitzgerald's investigation has reportedly been expanded to include the issue of whether members of the staffs of President Bush and Vice President Cheney, Cheney and Bush themselves, the National Security Council, and the Departments of Defense and State, may have violated more serious espionage laws.

In July 2003, the covert operations of Plame and her Brewster-Jennings colleagues were rolled up as a result of the White House leak to columnist Robert Novak and other journalists. Observers believe the White House was retaliating for the report by Wilson that the administration was incorrect when it stated that Iraq was shopping for "yellow cake" uranium in Niger. On behalf of the CIA, Wilson visited Niger prior to the Iraq war and determined that the administration's evidence was based on erroneous information and falsified documents.

The special prosecutor has been focusing on Bush, Cheney, presidential counselor Karl Rove, Cheney's chief of staff Lewis I. ("Scooter") Libby, Cheney assistants David Wurmser and John Hannah, and National Security Council officials Elliott Abrams and Stephen Hadley.

Recently, CIA Director George Tenet and Plame's ultimate boss, Deputy Director of Operations James Pavitt, suddenly resigned within hours of one another. Intelligence sources have said the two have been cooperating with Fitzgerald's investigation of the Plame/Brewster-Jennings leak and the damage to U.S. clandestine operations which globally track the flow of WMDs.

Sensitive CIA operations that were compromised by the leak included companies, government officials, and individuals associated with the nuclear smuggling network of Pakistan's chief nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan. In addition, the identities of U.S. national and foreign agents working within the headquarters of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, North Korea's nuclear laboratory in Yongbyon, Pakistan's Kahuta uranium enrichment plant, banks and export companies in Dubai, Islamabad, Moscow, Cape Town, Tel Aviv, Liechtenstein, Cyprus, and Kiev, and Kuala Lumpur, and government agencies in Libya, Pakistan, Malaysia, and Iran were severely compromised. The CIA has reportedly given Fitzgerald highly classified details on the damage done to the CIA's WMD tracking network.

Originally posted to Sherlock Google on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 01:08 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar Out! (3.98)
    (One of these days I will become a TRUSTED USER)
    •  thanks (none)
      for another timley and informative diary.

      Would love to see all of the Bush-Cheney lying and corruption revealed and solidly tied to the Iraq war, Oil, energy policy, Plame leak, propagannon - all the many outrages.  

      •  Informative, but not so timely-- (none)
        this is another article over a year old?
        •  Yes it is BUT now the Plame Case is finally (4.00)
          going to come into the light and folks don't know the real reasons behind it nor what Fitzgerald is really cooking up with the help of State and the CIA.

          Why did Tenet and Pavitt resign so suddenly?  If they were cooperating with Fitz, Bush might have gotten ticked off.

        •  Confused about the facts? (none)
          I did a couple of Google searches on the whole Plame thing, trying to figure out what happened when -- as the Grand Jury is trying to do.  (That, by the way, is why the old articles are important now.) and I found a very helpful chronology of events on wikipedia here.

          As with anything on the internets, I read it critically, but the information agrees generally with the bits and pieces in other stuff I have read plus it links back to source articles.  It helped me get my mind around the facts of the case.

          When you are going thru hell, keep going! Winston Churchill

          by flo58 on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 07:34:44 PM PDT

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      •  I don't know whether to wish (4.00)
        for this or not.

        Because if this all ties together as we expect and...

        The President of the United States of America, The Vice President of the United States of America,
        the President's Deputy Chief of Staff,
        the Vice President's Chief of Staff,
        the National Security Advisor,
        the Deputy National Security Advisor,
        perhaps the Secretary of State,
        and perhaps others in the highest reaches of the current administration of the United States of America...

        ... are all guilty of the worst form of treason against these United States of America.

        This is not something to wish for... sadly it is looking more and more to likely be true. If it is true then yes, I want it found out, proved, and the guilty brought to justice. If some or all of these people are not guilty (which seems incredibly unlikely at this point) then that too should be found out and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

        These people are beginning to make Nixon look like a kid stealing bubble gum from a candy store.

        "We have the power. Sorry if you don't like the fact that we've decided to use it." Posted by Jeremey*in*MS at February 3, 2005 01:59 PM

        by Andrew C White on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 07:55:42 PM PDT

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      •  God, I Want To Believe.... (none)
        but the CIA making up a Niger yellowcake sale 2 years before Bush using it to justify war?  Pretty damn insightful, even for the CIA.

        "You! Telling me the things you're gonna do for me. I ain't blind and I don't like what I think I see." -Doobie Brothers

        by prophet on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 08:50:49 PM PDT

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        •  Went to Capital Hill Blue... (none)

          "You! Telling me the things you're gonna do for me. I ain't blind and I don't like what I think I see." -Doobie Brothers

          by prophet on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 08:56:17 PM PDT

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        •  Yeah but.... (none)
          In the Ruppert article, the author claims that the "trap" was set because "the board"-
          "Wall Street and big money" who the CIA ultimately
          answers to were upet with how Bush administration handled the war. It was supposedly an effort to go beyond Iraq and secure oill fields in an era of peak oil. "But the neoconshave stalled at the ugly stage: killing hundreds of thousands of people: destroying Iraq's industrial and cultural infrastructure as their own bombs and other people's RPGs blow everything up; getting caught running torture camps: and making the whole world dislike America."

          The Niger documents, if fabricated by CIA agents, cannot have been a trap set because the war was going badly because the war hadn't started yet.
          The article states: "The long term (very corrupt and unethical) agenda of the Board, in the face of
          multiple worsening global crises, was intende to proceed far beyond the initially destructive war in Iraq, toward an effective reconstuction and a strtegic response to Peak Oil." Why would the Board sabotage the effort before it began? One
          could argue that they felt Iraq was the wrong first step, or felt the Bush administration was
          doing a bad job of "preparing" the American people, or maybe they could see the lack of preparation for the war's aftermath. The author could do a better job of establishing "The Board's" plans.

          "Together we will stand, every boy, girl, woman and a man."

    •  TU (none)
      "trusted user status"  is that related to how sweet one is to Armano?  j/k
    •  THIS DIARY IS BOGUS (2.80)

      Brewster Jennings was a person. He founded Mobil.

      Brewster-Jennings and Associates was a front company no one appears to know mnuch about. It had an address with no offices. Its only employee on record was Victor Brewster, who no one can find.

      So this diary is LARGELY based on the connection between Mobil Oil's Brewster Jennings, the person, and the almost non-existent Brewster-Jennings and Associates, the company.

      There's only problem, there is zero evidence of a connection other than the name and when you take into account that the CIA or whoever filed the info with Bradstreet, they made it quite clear that the name comes from two guys, Victor Brewster and partner Jennings.

      Get it? Two last names that have nothing to do with Mr Mobil.

      There is no fucking credible evidence of a connection with the founder of Mobil oil. So about 90% of this diary is built upon a false premise.

      I'm sorry to rain on you guys parade, but you really should put a big fucking DISCLAIMER when re-posting bullshit from From the Wilderness.

      Now, if it turns out later that there is a connection with Mr Jennings company, I'll be thrilled. But until the evidence makes that clear, please edit or delete this diary to reflect some semblense of reality.

      •  Thanks for the comment, I will reflect it. (none)
        I said Brewster Jennings Asset in the title, not Brewster Jennings.  Nothing against Mr. Jennings, honest.  It was the CIA that used his name.

        I do admit the reader not familiar with this may think the original Mr. Jennings had something to do with all this at first, given the way the beginning of the FTW article starts, but as you read the whole thing it becomes clear the CIA just stole his name for that Front Operation and to work more smoothly with ARAMCO.  I will add a note to the Diary Entry.

        Plus as I point out downthread, the White House itself has admitted that Brewster Jennings and Associates was a CIA Front, as reported by the NYT, the WP, Knight-Ridder, the Boston GLobe and others.  They even talk about the damage done to other agents and operations beyond Plame.

        So it's not FTW making that link.  The only thing FTW adds are the connections ARAMCO is known to have and the countries they are operating in.  Plus the scuttlebutt report that Tenet and Pavitt resigned because they were cooperating with Fitzgerald--something the MSM would never report.  

        Given that the MSM have reported that Brewster Jennings Associates is a front, the rest is public knowledge about ARAMCO and some intel scuttlebutt on the Grand Jury and Tenet resigning.

        •  Regardless of the specifics... (3.60)
          ...I think each of us should take a deep breath before we decide to base diaries exclusively on a report by Wayne Madsen.

          I love where his heart is and he sure seems to want the same guys we all loathe stuffed into a prison cell, but he's got a rather nutty reputation and anytime somebody quotes from "Online Journal" - a news magazine that openly refers to Rove as "Turd Blossom" - we're not exactly talking by-the-book reporting. The guy, unfortunately for our side, makes Ed Klein look like Seymour Hersh as far as journalism goes.

          The way we started to win the DSM angle was to continually alert the media to what was verifiable and push them to cover the details which sprang from what was verifiable.

          We've got enough verifiable stuff on the table already to make a media push. But going around quoting Wayne Madsen is going to give the wingnuts a lot of ammo against us.

          Sorry to burst your bubble, but I read this report last night and dismissed it out of hand. Not because I believe BushCo is incapable of that sort of evil, but because the story itself ain't gonna help us that much.

          •  Don't be surprised if Dean's next (none)
            I agree with this comment. This guy always comes up with incredible stories, and while they may contain some credible information, they usually have some that can be easily proven wrong as well. I take anything he says with a grain of salt and I never consider it factually accurate just because he said it.

            As an example, he was pushing disproven right-wing conspiracy theories about Clinton that went far off the edge of reality (I mean so far off that I doubt any Clinton skeptics here would believe they were true.) If he goes after guilty Democrats, then I would applaud him, but he seems to subscribe to the theory that they're all guilty until proven innocent. Thus, don't be surprised if he's going after Howard Dean, or whoever your favorite politician may be, next.

            I don't really have a problem with printing this information here, but we should be careful about accepting it as truthful without hard evidence. I don't know enough about this story to say it's untrue, but I will point out that there are very few people in the world with fortunes in the "tens of billions", so who exactly is he referring to when claiming that some of Bush's business associates are worth this much? Bill Gates? Warren Buffett? I know this may be picky, but it's a glaring problem to me. And although it's not big enough for me to discount the story, I'm willing to bet that there are many fabrications here.

            Democrats -- Progress for the Working Class

            by rogun on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 09:17:17 PM PDT

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            •  Wish I could delete comments.... (none)
              Please excuse the above comment. I wasn't paying attention and thought we were talking about Michael Ruppert, who publishes -- the source of the first story within the block. I don't know anything about Wayne Madsen, but my comment still stands for Ruppert.

              I know I should've checked better before posting, but I'm having to work on an old laptop because my network is down due to lightning. Because it's slow, has a dim screen, and uncomfortable to hold, I'm trying to spend as little time as possible online. So please excuse me for not checking this time.

              Democrats -- Progress for the Working Class

              by rogun on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 09:31:41 PM PDT

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        •  ARAMCO (none)
          The Arabian-American Oil Company's merger of Rocekefellor interests with  Sauds has shaped foreign polcy for decades.

          Standard Oil of New Jersey, SOCAL(Standard CALI) are part of this group.

          Plame did some publicity for a front that was into their dealings.

          Cheney and Condi Rice saw to it that she was outed they had the most vested interest with Oil industry.

          We were getting too close to Bush Bandar for their linkings, as the Sauds were doing an agressive expansion policy into Africa across the Red Sea Gulf resulting in genocide(Sudan,Chad,Somalia,Ethiopia).

          Say what you want about Madsen he did recieve security clearance and usually does best with on the ground entry level and analyst level information.

      •  EXACTL:Y!!! (none)
        That's what I've been thinking about. The proposed connection is too thin. It's way spacious.
    •  Check for the zero and Hidden comments! (none)
      I bet you will find them now.

      In case you didn't know the ability to "zero rate" comments and the hidden comments link in the user links box are the indicators of "Trusted User" status.

      "It's about the accountability, stupid." Thomas Davis 2005.

      by Tomtech on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 10:28:46 PM PDT

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  •  Could it be that Cheney and Bush's (4.00)
    "energy" interests were a motivation for breaking Brewster-Jennings? They did non-CIA work, which the crime family may have wanted to muscle into.
    •  maybe not. (none)

      From what I've read, Brewster Jennings was apparently on the trail of information related to actual Saudi oil reserves: information that Saudi protects like atomic-bomb secrets but would be of major importance for the US to get.  (Even the US companies involved in Aramco apparently don't have access to the real numbers, thogh they can make educated guesses.)  

      So in other words, the Admin shot itself in the foot with this one.  

      That supports the "spite" hypothesis, rather than some of the wilder conspiracy theories about the Admin's motives for the leak.  

    •  mobjectivist was on this half a year ago (none)
      As for Plame, the ARAMACO link was like oh hellll. No wonder she was outed.

      forgive caps...

      Mr.Murder | Email | Homepage | 06.16.04 - 11:13 am |

  •  Wow, so it wasn't just revenge (4.00)
    the outing of Plame was also a business deal.  They wanted rid of Brewster Jennings.

    Tired of the corporate DLC suck ups?WE'VE GOT DEANS BACK

    by TeresaInPa on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 01:48:17 PM PDT

    •  It's business, Karl, nothing personal. (none)
      Could Karl get hung out to dry by the new "family?"  Wow, all this breaking on a holiday weekend -- how unexpected.  But if the extent of high crimes mentioned plays out, I think someone is getting prepped to be the fall guy.

      Maybe I'll stay off the beach tomorrow and stay tuned!

      •  Not A Surprise (none)
        OF COURSE this breaks over a holiday weekend.. while most shlubs are munching grilled hamburgers, getting drunk and watching the fireworks.. YAYYYYY America!

        what a Load. the BushCo crime family will drag us all down with them. think they CARE about us??

    •  i don't think so (none)

      See my above.  Also I'm going to post another comment in the main thread about why I think it was Rove and someone else, but not Cheney or Bush.  Has to do with oil interests and sociopaths.  

      •  Neocons and Israel--enter Cheney (none)
        I think this may be a titanic battle over something about the Saudi oil that is happening just out of sight of us. Israel via PNAC is more or less controlling our foreign policy. Israel wants oil just like us, witness the on/off mention of the Iraq/Jordan pipeline to Haifa. There is some knowledge here that certain people do not want the world to know.

        That knowledge may have been getting close to known by the Plame group. And Israel did not want that for some reason I cannot fathom right now, but if so Cheney or someone close to him is involved.

        "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." Dr. ML King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963.

        by bewert on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 09:26:01 PM PDT

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  •  Our talking points (4.00)
    An important talking point for us considering many conservatives are saying no crime was committed or that this was no big deal.  The leak not only exposed one agent, it exposed the cover company along with all past and present employees who worked for that company.

    What color are your pajamas?

    by Unstable Isotope on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 01:49:43 PM PDT

  •  you know it's real news when it makes it to Google (none)

    Newsweek: Rove spoke to reporter before leak
    CNN - 3 hours ago
    Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper and New York Times reporter Judith Miller leave the US District Court in Washington on Wednesday. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Newsweek magazine is reporting that e-mails between ...
    When to Give Up a Source TIME
    Bad choice: Giving up source or giving up freedom The Decatur Daily
    The Moderate Voice - The Argus - - Houston Chronicle - all 490 related »

  •  Treason is punishable by death (4.00)
    Injection for the traitors Novak and Rove!

    Al Queada is a faith-based initiative.

    by drewfromct on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 02:40:08 PM PDT

    •  Good luck (4.00)
      It's nearly impossible to convict for treason - espionage on the other hand...

      And since 18 USC 794 carries the death penalty, your wish could be granted. However the gummint has only ever executed 2 people under that statute - the Rosenbergs, so execution is unlikely. But life in prison? Gee, just ask Aldrich Ames, Jonathan Pollard, Robert Hansen, or John Walker. All of them doing life for violating the espionage act.

      •  what about plausible deniability? (none)

        What if Rove et. al. could claim they didn't know they were outing an NOC?  

        For example, claim that they thought Plame was an analyst or some other category of employee, and whose identity was not classified?  

        In other words, this generalization: can someone be prosecuted under the espionage act for conveying information that they do not know (or can claim to not have known) was classified?  

        •  The person who knew her name HAD to know (none)
          as every thing else about her had been scrubbed.
          Just knowing that Valerie Plame was a CIA employee, when CIA would never admit this, and a subsantial, carefully crafted and maintained legend existed to demonstrate otherwise, means that that person HAD TO KNOW that she was  NOC.

          NOCs are not just handed out to anyone.  They're damned expensive, in both terms of money and manpower, to create and maintain.  The NOC officer herself must be trained to perform the job duties of her cover.  She was trained extensively to appear to the outside world as anything BUT a CIA employee, let alone an intelligence operative.  Her own family--parents, children, siblings, did not know what she really did for a living.  Only her husband knew that information.

          Wounded Warrior Project Give till it hurts. They already did.

          by soonergrunt on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 06:32:46 PM PDT

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          •  " plame is fair game"....rove knew!!! (none)
          •  maybe cheney is hanging rove (none)
            what if cheney thinks that maybe
            a little too much credit is going to
            'turd blossom'. maybe cheney kind of
            get word to rove that plame was 'fair game'
            so that rove would be taken out
            clean up the yard for the real power
            •  I hope to God (none)
              your fucking finger slipped giving me that 2.

              I get a MARGINAL for questioning the validity of a source? Expecting a diary to be sourced on verifiable data is MARGINAL? Calling Wayne Madsen marginal is fucking MARGINAL?

              I'm not rating you now since I expect a reply explaining the rating. Barring that, you just bought yourself a series of goose eggs from one pissed off trusted user.

          •  One other thing (4.00)
            The only way someone could have known that Plame was a NOC was if that person had a Top Secret clearance.  That person would also had to have had Special Compartmented Information clearance.
            There was a limited number of persons who knew or had access to the information that she was a NOC.
            The other law that was broken was the law against disclosing classified information.

            Wounded Warrior Project Give till it hurts. They already did.

            by soonergrunt on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 08:34:45 PM PDT

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            •  most interesting (none)

              Top secret / SCI is also the clearance that would be needed to have access to the information about NSA breaking Iranian crypto.  Which was leaked to one of Chalabi's guys (Iranian spies).  

              So here we have two really damaging leaks, both of which were by individuals holding separate Top Secret / SCI clearances.

              You get an SCI clearance for an individual category of information, so if you had both pieces (Plame and the Iranian crypto), you'd have two separate SCI clearances.  Strictly speaking, anyone who has one probably has more than one.  But what's interesting here, is that one of them is for SIGINT and one is for HUMINT.  Now that is a very interesting combination.  Very few people have that combination.  Very very few.  

              (Bad me, not realilzing earlier that the Plame/NOC info would be SCI.  I figured the Iranian crypto piece would be one, but it didn't occur to me that the Plame piece would be another.  Another benefit of online collaboration, all the pieces come together.)

              •  Hey G2 (none)
                How'd you get to know about the classified stuff?  FM?

                Dear Lord, please save me from your followers

                by mz on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 06:42:36 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  it's all public information... (none)

                  Everything I've ever said on dailykos about any of this stuff is public information, readily available to anyone who seriously studies the history of the intel community.  

                  As a geek I tend to be more aware of the SIGINT side than the HUMINT side, which is why I didn't figure out that the NOC details would be SCI also.  But soonergrunt got that part, and it makes perfect sense; benefits of online collaboration & information-sharing.  

                  •  Yeah (none)
                    Didn't mean that you were disclosing anything.  It's just that you seem to know more about security and intel ops issues than informed people usually do.  Good work on keeping it straight.

                    Dear Lord, please save me from your followers

                    by mz on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 08:01:36 PM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

              •  The only people who have access to multiple (none)
                kinds of information are VERY senior people at CIA, and NSA, both of which are "all-source" intelligence agencies.  It is highly unlikely that CIA or NSA blew her NOC.  For the reasons I mentioned earlier, these agencies are hyper-protective of NOCs and the officers that use them.

                There's one other group of people who typically have access to several different SCI or "codeword" clearances, and they are the customers of these agencies--in other words, policymakers.  Certain members of the National Security Council and limited members of the House and Senate Intelligence oversight committees, and limited members of the staffs of those committees.

                Wounded Warrior Project Give till it hurts. They already did.

                by soonergrunt on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 07:47:20 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  agree... (none)

                  Good points.  

                  Agencies protective of their NOCs: Yes, absolutely.   A NOC who has the slightest doubt about that, is going to be looking for potential exit strategies, which in turn decreases their effectiveness and also increases their chances of exposure.

                  "Customers", including staffers: and Bolton's staffers who got to see the transcripts..?  Someone should check their clearances; else Bolton could be in major trouble for letting them see the stuff.  That by itself could derail him.

                  There's also a growing suspicion that the words Wilson or Plame will occur in those transcripts, thereby causing the whole ball of yarn to unravel.

        •  Doesn't matter. (none)
          It's a federal crime to out a janitor at CIA.  It doesn't matter what Ms. Wilson's position might have been (or perceived by the BushCo Crime Family to have been).

          All Spin Zone : Nailing the Lying Bastards Since 2004

          by Richard Cranium on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 08:50:37 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  injection? (none)
      For some reason, in relation to Rove, the word injection brings to mind the Cajun Turkey Injector. The one with all the delicious spices? Right before you lower the bird into a boiling vat of oil.
  •  Hey I have the #1 and #2 Recommended Diaries! (4.00)
    That ever happened before?
  •  CNN Confirms (none)
    There's a rumor going around that CNN confirmed that Rove is not the leaker.

    Anyone been watching CNN?

    Report back.

    Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed. Mao

    by daimon on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 02:46:45 PM PDT

  •  Bob Brigham puts some more together (4.00)
    Bob Brigham has a post rich with sources at MyDD called

    It includes a transcript of his appearance on Air America earlier this year and discusses Gannon, Rove, Bolton, et al. It's a great read.

    It is better to die standing than to live on your knees. - Emiliano Zapata

    by cotterperson on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 02:49:41 PM PDT

  •  Here's the WP story (link) (4.00)
    October 4, 2003

    Leak of Agent's Name Causes Exposure of CIA Front Firm

    Here's a few paragraphs:

    The name of the CIA front company was broadcast yesterday by Novak, the syndicated journalist who originally identified Plame. Novak, highlighting Wilson's ties to Democrats, said on CNN that Wilson's "wife, the CIA employee, gave $1,000 to Gore and she listed herself as an employee of Brewster-Jennings & Associates."

    "There is no such firm, I'm convinced," he continued. "CIA people are not supposed to list themselves with fictitious firms if they're under a deep cover -- they're supposed to be real firms, or so I'm told. Sort of adds to the little mystery."

    In fact, it appears the firm did exist, at least on paper. The Dun & Bradstreet database of company names lists a firm that is called both Brewster Jennings & Associates and Jennings Brewster & Associates.

    The phone number in the listing is not in service, and the property manager at the address listed said there is no such company at the property, although records from 2000 were not available.

    Is Novak so stupid?

  •  Somebody help me out here... (none)
    "...may have violated more serious espionage laws."

    What are the more serious espionage laws other than the Intelligence Identities Protection Act?

    •  18 USC 794 (4.00)

      18 USC Section 794. Gathering or delivering defense information to aid foreign government

          (a) Whoever, with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates, delivers, or transmits, or attempts to communicate, deliver, or transmit, to any foreign government, or to any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, or to any representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or citizen thereof, either directly or indirectly, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, note, instrument, appliance, or information relating to the national defense, shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life, except that the sentence of death shall not be imposed unless the jury or, if there is no jury, the court, further finds that the offense resulted in the identification by a foreign power (as defined in section 101(a) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978) of an individual acting as an agent of the United States and consequently in the death of that individual, or directly concerned nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning systems, or other means of defense or retaliation against large-scale attack; war plans; communications intelligence or cryptographic information; or any other major weapons system or major element of defense strategy.

          (b) Whoever, in time of war, with intent that the same shall be communicated to the enemy, collects, records, publishes, or communicates, or attempts to elicit any information with respect to the movement, numbers, description, condition, or disposition of any of the Armed Forces, ships, aircraft, or war materials of the United States, or with respect to the plans or conduct, or supposed plans or conduct of any naval or military operations, or with respect to any works or measures undertaken for or connected with, or intended for the fortification or defense of any place, or any other information relating to the public defense, which might be useful to the enemy, shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

          (c) If two or more persons conspire to violate this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.

          (d)(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law -

                    (A) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation, and

                    (B) any of the person's property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term ''State'' includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.

             (2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.

             (3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c) and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)-(p)) shall apply to -
                    (A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
                    (B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
                    (C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property, if not inconsistent with this subsection.

             (4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.

      This is why Aldrich Ames is doing life in prison - he outed NOC CIA Officers to the Soviets. Novak and his sources outed a NOC CIA Officer to the world. His story was picked up and run in newspapers all over the world - eg: Canada, Great Britain, Israel, India Pakistan, Australia, just to name a few.

      Before the leak, Plame's ID as a NOC CIA Officer was TOP SECRET information. TOP SECRET means that that the unauthorized release of that information will cause grevious harm to the United States. All the people who would have had access to Plame's ID would have to have had TOP SECRET clearances. National Security law requires that all holders of such clearances sign a yearly memo stating that they understand what constitutes violation of the Espionage Act - basically 18 USC 790 - 18 USC 799 and what the penalties are. Failure to sign the memo means that your clearance gets revoked. Whoever leaked Plame's ID as a NOC CIA Officer knew they were violating 18 USC 794, and they chose to do it anyway. These sorry fucks need to spend the rest of their lives in jail.

      •  statute of limitations? (none)

        Any chance he could beat it by having the Admin run interference for him until the statute of limitations runs out?  

        Thinking here about the 2006 elections and then 2008, and if both of those get rigged, what happens if it has to wait until 2012 or later...?  

        And as a practical matter, how far back will a prosecution go?  For instance if this gets delayed unti 2012, will anyone even care to go back to something that happened a decade earlier?  How often do such old cases actually end up getting prosecuted?

        I'm thinking that going for the lesser included charges, e.g. perjury, might be a more practical route.  It gets rid of Rove, possibly gets him prison time, smears the Admin with a big nasty, and thereby increases the probability of an undeniable shift in power (i.e. beyond the capacity of Diebold-fixes) starting in 2006.  

  •  You're on to something here (4.00)
    Never mention Novak's name without "Traitor" in front of it - nor the others that will come out.  

    The beneficiaries are likely to be...large corporations and development firms. (O'Connor, J. dissenting in Kelo). God bless you, J. O'Connor.

    by xanthe on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 03:01:45 PM PDT

  •  OOOOhhhh!!!! (3.87)

    The war between the CIA and BushCo is a BUSINESS war!!!

    Of course!!!

    DUH!!! (Sound of hand smacking forehead. SuhMACK!!!)

    Follow the money.

    The business of America is business.

    Iraq is a Blood Foe Oil War...why not the SECRET war?

    Between the PermaGov and the Neo-cons. ("Neo-con" means nouveau riche in French, right?)

    A business war.

    No WONDER Nightline got right on the Plame case.

    Didja see it...when the story first broke? CLASSIC CIA perpaganda, complete with several (nudge nudge, winkie winkie) "ex"-CIA guys and one female agent (who moved and sounded JUST like an actress) complete with a hood to hide her SECRET IDENTITY!!!

    And of course,Ted Koppel (THE PermaGov's Larry King) to lob loaded softball questions at them.

    It was PRICELESS!!!

    Should be required viewing at all media interventions.

    And here we are...two years later...finding out that what REALLY riled the BushCo boys up was that the CIA folks were FUCKING WITH THEIR BUSINESS!!!


    Bada BING!!!

    I think that BushCo is on the verge of being taken down.

    AND I think that they will do anything not to be taken down.


    Anything they CAN, anyway.

    If they have lost large portions of the military and even LARGER portions of intelligence..which seems to be the casae...then they are sunk.

    We shall see...


    "Let the intelligent read and understand, and let the ignorant stay that way." From the earliest known piece of writing. A Mesopotamian shopping list. Nice.

    by Arthur Gilroy on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 03:04:08 PM PDT

    •  Did you ever doubt (4.00)
      that all of this was about the Bush family fortune?
      •  I would be very cautious tho (none)
        Daddy Bush was CIA head for short time.  Bush also has installed his own man on top (the new CIA head and intel Czar. And of course Gonzales is at the FBI.)

        I think Bush is putting his own people rather well. It will take a massive wistle blowing to uncover his scheme.

        •  Yes, THEY are. (4.00)
          NOT Bush.




          The King is just a pawn.

          It's the OTHER pieces you have to watch.

          People like Cheney.


          When you see THEM ducking and covering...then you know your moves are working.


          "Let the intelligent read and understand, and let the ignorant stay that way." From the earliest known piece of writing. A Mesopotamian shopping list. Nice.

          by Arthur Gilroy on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 03:58:30 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I disagree ... (none)
            ... that Bush wasn't directly involved.  He is a C student with the money and greed to do what he has to do to get what he wants.  Loyalty is everything and nothing to him for he will cut you off so fast, you'd think you with a CIA asset.

            I think Bush did Plame and her assets as a favor to the House of Saud, nothing more.

            Just Business.  Damn the Constitution!

            •  He's not even in the mix. (none)
              He may THINK he is, but he is SO outclassed by his controllers that he has no IDEA who is really calling the shots.

              HIS shots.

              Y'know that book? Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right by Al Franken.

              Oughta be a sequel. Fools and the Controlling Controllers Who Run Them: ANOTHER Fair and Balanced Look at the Right


              "Let the intelligent read and understand, and let the ignorant stay that way." From the earliest known piece of writing. A Mesopotamian shopping list. Nice.

              by Arthur Gilroy on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 06:22:32 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Maybe your right ... (none)
                ... about Bush not haven't the will or understanding about everything that is done in His administration.  He was never interested in the death row appeals in Texas.  Harvard Business professor remembers Dubya for his under-achievement.  

                But in the case of Joe Wilson, I do see George and/or Cheney going off and expecting retribution.  It is how they think.  Problem was and always is, criminals don't think about the consequences.  Maybe all we will see is Cheney resigning to cover Bush's butt.

                Get Gannon out of the Oval Office!  No pictures, please!

      •  No. (none)
        Not really...

        I just figured Plame and Wilson got in the way of their tactics.

        NOT that they were direct competitors, even if only on a relatively small scale..


        "Let the intelligent read and understand, and let the ignorant stay that way." From the earliest known piece of writing. A Mesopotamian shopping list. Nice.

        by Arthur Gilroy on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 06:25:54 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Oh, I'd bet it's more than just bidness... (none)
      ...what would you wager that Plame and associates (and the non-neocon wing of the CIA) were onto BushCo's games re: the secret energy meetings, and possibly the real story behind 9/11.  What if they were about to uncover real information that definitively links the Bush cabal to some seriously shady deals with Saudi Arabia and plans for the upcoming Iraq war.

      To me, with lots of tin-foil and speculation disclaimers, Plame's operation was probably onto some really really serious stuff that could've taken out the Bush family and the neocons for good.  But before she could get the goods, they outed her.  This whole investigation will be fascinating to watch, maybe we'll get a peek at how far down the rabbit hole really goes!

      •  I don't think ... (none)
        ... she found anything but she was asking too many questions.  If she was into it too deep, she would have "taken her own life by now".  Then again, maybe she knows that she needed backup, and has the documentation all safe and sound.

        "Don't mess with Texas" takes on a whole new meaning.

  •  No Matter Who (none)
    actually did the deed, it was definitely done under the aegis of Cheney and Bush. With all the speculation floating around the press, the story is gaining momentum once again.  Perhaps America will finally open its ears and eyes.  Its interesting that in the past, the press absolutely accorded the most attention to the most limited damage caused by this nasty chapter.  Finally we are seeing references to the horrific broader damage that was done.

    Oh the Irony.  When asked about the Wilson/Plame affair as actual names started popping up long months ago, Rove said something like, "The landmover has rolled over this story and has moved on."  

    Looks like the landmover has something jammed in in the rollers!

  •  I need a link to the Madsen article. (none)
    The one printed in italics above.  Where is it??

    Are either Madsen or Ruppert credible reporters?  Not to us -- to others.  I need to know before I use either one of these articles as a source.

    • (4.00)
      Ruppert and Madsen are Internet reporters and former intelligence or detectives.  Ruppert I trust morethan Madsen although they both work together sometimes.  They and Al Martin regularly have the scuttlebutt of Washington that the regular media dare not print.  

      So as I say take it with a grain of salt.  The WP and the White House itself did confirm BJ was CIA, so the only thing uncertain here is where did the BJ Front Operation spy, why, and how much damage did the Traitor Benedict Novak actually cause?

    •  Mr. Madsen is NOT a credible source ... (4.00)
      ...and his material on other subjects - including the imminent attack on Iran that Bush was planning for October 2004 so he'd win the election - is just one example of his "speculative journalism."

      "The President wanted to go into Iraq in the worst possible way. And he did." -- Nancy Pelosi

      by Meteor Blades on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 04:57:38 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  He repeats the DC scuttlebutt (none)
        Sometimes it does not pan out.  But on this Brewster Jennings report he's letting out info that everyone in DC knew but were not allowed to publish.  The NYT, the WP, Knight-Ridder, the Boston Globe and others--including the White House itself--all confirmed BJ Associates was a CIA Front.

        As I said in the beginning, it's Madsen and Ruppert so take with a grain of salt, but it does connect up and make sense out of the whole deal.

        •  Hogwash. He often claims to have ... (4.00)
          ...inside sources (allegedly because of his work for NSA) and "breaks" amazing stories which, if they turned out to be true, would probably topple numerous politicians. As for the confirmation of BJ as an CIA front, that was done by others, including the Washington Post months BEFORE Madsen did shit.

          "The President wanted to go into Iraq in the worst possible way. And he did." -- Nancy Pelosi

          by Meteor Blades on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 05:26:16 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  Yup. (none)
        But sometimes even UNcredible sources get it right.

        INCREDIBLY right.

        We shall see.


        "Let the intelligent read and understand, and let the ignorant stay that way." From the earliest known piece of writing. A Mesopotamian shopping list. Nice.

        by Arthur Gilroy on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 06:28:11 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Think Peak Oil (4.00)
    And you see the damage the loss of a mole inside the Saudi's technical arm of their Oil business (ARAMCO) has done to US and the world!


    When morality is only about sex, no aspect of war - even the killing of entire families - can arouse criticism, much less condemnation.

    by lawnorder on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 03:47:11 PM PDT

  •  Your article has a MAJOR error (4.00)
    George W Bush was NEVER CEO of Harken  -- he was on the Board, and on the audit committee of the board, after Harken bought his company, Specturm 7.  In fact, he almost certainly violated SEC rules when dumping Harken stock while on the board.  One of his fellow board members at the time, and the then largest owner of stock, was George Soros, who has publicly commented that the primary reason Bush was put on the board was because his father was VP at the time.

    If the article is inaccurate on something so basic, I for one would have trouble placing and trust in anything else they say that was not independently confirmed.

    Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

    by teacherken on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 03:52:27 PM PDT

    •  This is a minor point but correct (4.00)
      Think the reporter got confused.  Bush was the CEO of Spectrum which got folded into Harken.  BEing on the Board however, he does qualify as an insider under SEC regs.  The WP and the WH itself has confirmed BJ was a CIA asset, so the only thing needing indepedent verification is the extent of Brester Jennings itself, of which there are other links.  

      I will look up soon!

      •  Here is the Boston Globe on BJ: (4.00)
        Apparent CIA front didn't offer much cover

        By Ross Kerber and Bryan Bender, Globe Staff and Globe Correspondent, 10/10/2003

        At first glance, 101 Arch St. seems like the perfect setting for a spy story: an elegant office building downtown with an upscale restaurant, lots of foot traffic, and a subway entrance to stage a getaway.

        "It's a great place to blend in," said Rob Griffin, regional president of Cushman & Wakefield Inc., the real estate firm.

        The CIA may have thought so too. Valerie Plame, an undercover CIA operative once listed as her employer Brewster Jennings & Associates. A company by that name has a listed address but no visible presence at the 21-story office tower.

        Plame's exposure as an intelligence operative has become a major controversy in Washington. Former intelligence officials confirmed Plame's cover was an invention and that she used other false identities and affiliations when working overseas. "All it was was a telephone and a post office box," said one former intelligence official who asked not to be identified. "When she was abroad she had a more viable cover."

        That's a good thing, considering how little work seems to have gone in to establishing the company's presence in Boston, intelligence observers said. While the renovated building houses legal and investment firms, current and former building managers said they've never heard of Brewster Jennings. Nor did the firm file the state and local records expected of most businesses.

        Both factors would have aroused the suspicions of anyone who tried to check up on Brewster Jennings, said David Armstrong, an Andover researcher for the Public Education Center, a liberal Washington think tank.

        At the least, a dummy company ought to create the appearance of activity, with an office and a valid mailing address, he said. "A cover that falls apart on first inspection isn't very good. What you want is a cover that actually holds up . . . and this one certainly doesn't."

        Some in the real estate industry believe something was amiss, if not illegal. "It's almost like out of a spy novel -- the tenant that wasn't there," said Griffin, who once oversaw management of the tower. "And they picked a nice address."

        The collapse of Plame's cover could compromise any other operatives who claimed to work for Brewster Jennings. Although former officials wouldn't confirm that Plame's cover company used the Arch Street address, they offered no other explanation of the phantom tenant.

        Plame's identity as a CIA operative was disclosed July 14 by the conservative newspaper columnist Robert Novak, who implied that the information came from "two senior administration officials." Just eight days before, her husband, Joseph C. Wilson, a former US ambassador, had written in The New York Times that the Bush administration relied on discredited intelligence in alleging sales of uranium from Niger to Iraq.

        Yesterday, Plame didn't return a message left with Wilson requesting an interview, but she had listed her employer as "Brewster-Jennings & Associates" in a filing when she donated $1,000 to Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. She listed her occupation as "analyst."

        A spokeswoman for Dun & Bradstreet Inc., a New Jersey operator of commercial databases, said Brewster Jennings was first entered into its records on May 22, 1994, but wouldn't discuss the source of the filing. Its records list the company at 101 Arch St. as a "legal services office," which could mean a law firm, with annual sales of $60,000, one employee, and a chief executive identified as "Victor Brewster, Partner."

        That person isn't listed elsewhere. But the address is certainly known, a tower finished in 1988 at the corner of Summer and Arch streets with 405,511 square feet of office space, then housing the upscale Dakota's restaurant, since succeeded by Vinalia. Many commuters pass through the building as they exit the Downtown Crossing subway station. 101 Arch was sold last year to CB Richard Ellis Investors of Los Angeles for an estimated $90 million.

        Dun & Bradstreet records on Brewster Jennings show that on June 1, 2000, "sources contacted verified information" the day before, but a D&B spokeswoman wouldn't discuss what that means.

        The D&B records give a phone number for the company, but it wasn't in service yesterday. Verizon wouldn't comment. A spokesman for the US Postal Service wouldn't say whether a post office box was associated with the company.

        Vince Cannistraro, the CIA's former counterterrorism chief, said that when operating undercover outside the United States, Plame would have had a real job with a more legitimate company. The Boston company "is not an indicator of what she did overseas," he said.

        Brewster Jennings was the name of the president of the former Socony-Vacuum oil company, a predecessor of Exxon Mobil Corp. But the Jennings family denies any connection, said a grandson, Brewster Jennings, a real estate investor in Durango, Colo. He said that since the firm was named as a CIA front he's heard from many friends and family members who "find tremendous humor in all this."

        Ross Kerber can be reached at

        © Copyright 2003 Globe Newspaper Company.

        Globe Article

      •  And Knight-Ridder: (4.00)
        Published on Saturday, October 11, 2003 by Knight-Ridder  
        Leak of CIA Officers Leaves Trail of Damage  
        by Warren P. Strobel

        WASHINGTON - It's just a 12-letter name - Valerie Plame - but the leak by Bush administration officials of that CIA officer's identity may have damaged U.S. national security to a much greater extent than generally realized, current and former agency officials say.

        Plame, the wife of former ambassador and Bush critic Joseph Wilson, was a member of a small elite-within-an-elite, a CIA employee operating under "nonofficial cover," in her case as an energy analyst, with little or no protection from the U.S. government if she got caught.

        At the end of the day, (the harm) will be huge and some people potentially may have lost their lives.

        Larry Johnson
        former CIA and State Department official
        Training agents such as Plame, 40, costs millions of dollars and requires the time-consuming establishment of elaborate fictions, called "legends," including in this case the creation of a CIA front company that helped lend plausibility to her trips overseas.

        Compounding the damage, the front company, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, whose name has been reported previously, apparently also was used by other CIA officers whose work now could be at risk, according to Vince Cannistraro, formerly the agency's chief of counterterrorism operations and analysis.

        Now, Plame's career as a covert operations officer in the CIA's Directorate of Operations is over. Those she dealt with - whether on business or not - may be in danger. The DO is conducting an extensive damage assessment.

        And Plame's exposure may make it harder for American spies to convince foreigners to share important secrets with them, U.S. intelligence officials said.

        Bush partisans tend to downplay the leak's damage, saying Plame's true job was widely known in Washington, if unspoken. And, they say, she had moved from the DO, the CIA's covert arm, to an analysis job.

        But intelligence professionals, infuriated over the breach and what they see as the Bush administration's misuse of intelligence on Iraq, vehemently disagree.

        Larry Johnson - a former CIA and State Department official who was a 1985 classmate of Plame's in the CIA's case officer-training program at Camp Peary, Va., known as "the Farm" - predicted that when the CIA's internal damage assessment is finished, "at the end of the day, (the harm) will be huge and some people potentially may have lost their lives."

        "This is not just another leak. This is an unprecedented exposing of an agent's identity," said former CIA officer Jim Marcinkowski, who's now a prosecutor in Royal Oak, Mich., and who also did CIA training with Plame.

        The leak of Plame's identity to syndicated columnist Robert Novak and other journalists is the subject of a Justice Department investigation that has rattled President Bush's White House. Knowingly revealing the identity of a covert agent is a crime.

        Critics say the leak was meant to intimidate critics such as Wilson, a former ambassador who traveled to the African country of Niger to investigate claims that Iraq was seeking uranium ore for nuclear weapons. Wilson found no basis for the claims and later publicly criticized Bush's description of Iraq's nuclear weapons program.

        One mystery is how one or more officials at the White House knew of Plame's work, since the CIA and other intelligence agencies guard the identities of their covert officers, often even from their political masters.

        "The background on an agent typically is not common knowledge," said a U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "Whoever leaked (the information) probably wasn't supposed to have access to it."

        Intelligence officials said Plame worked on an issue high on Bush's list of priorities: the spread of missiles and nuclear, biological and chemical arms, collectively known as weapons of mass destruction.

        Human intelligence - as opposed to electronic surveillance - about WMD development and weapons transfers is hard to come by, especially in "hard target" countries such as Iraq, Iran and North Korea.

        Much about Plame's career remains a mystery, and probably will stay that way. The CIA refuses to acknowledge her employment or anything else associated with the case.

        Born in 1963, she graduated from Pennsylvania State University and was recruited quickly by the CIA, attending training classes in 1985.

        In 1990 and 1991, Plame was attached to a U.S. embassy in Europe, according to address records, suggesting she may have operated under official cover for a time. Knight Ridder voluntarily is withholding the precise location of the embassy. Plame's name doesn't appear in State Department telephone and embassy directories from that period.

        In April 1999, Plame, using her married name of Valerie E. Wilson, donated $1,000 to then-Vice President Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. She listed her employer as Brewster-Jennings & Associates.

        The name suggested work in the energy field: The late Brewster Jennings was president of the old Socony-Vacuum oil company, predecessor to Mobil, now Exxon Mobil Corp.

        A June 2000 listing in Dun & Bradstreet for a Boston-based "Brewster Jennings & Associates" names the company's CEO and only employee as "Victor Brewster" and says it had annual sales of $60,000.

        While that might seem like flimsy cover, former intelligence officials say that in fact meticulous steps are taken to create a life-like legend to support and protect CIA officers operating under nonofficial cover.

        The corps of officers using nonofficial cover is small, said former CIA analyst Melvin Goodman, a critic of Bush's handling of intelligence. The program was the subject of an internal battle, he said, opposed by traditionalists, who favored the orthodox method of having spies pose as American diplomats or military officers.

        "It was always controversial. There were never a lot. And there are fewer now than there were," Goodman said.

        Johnson, the former CIA and State Department official, said espionage training could cost several million dollars, including $350,000 for the first year alone.

        It appears that the Brewster-Jennings front was more than what is called "nominal cover," and was used as part of Plame's espionage, Johnson said.

        That means anyone she met with could be in danger now, said Johnson, who described himself as "furious, absolutely furious" at the security breach.

        On a personal level, if Plame's covert career wasn't over already, it is now.

        "My wife's career will certainly change as a consequence of this, but my wife is a star in her business," Wilson said last Sunday on NBC. He added: "I have every expectation that her culture will embrace her and that she will continue to be a productive national security officer. But clearly her responsibilities will have to change as a consequence of this."

        Wilson has said his family is taking unspecified security precautions. His wife won't talk to reporters.

        "The bottom line is, she's lost her career," said former classmate Marcinkowski.

        As a CIA officer operating overseas, "There's only one entity in the world that can identify you. That's the U.S. government. When the U.S. government does it, that's it," he said.

        Researcher Tish Wells contributed to this article.

        Copyright 2003 Knight-Ridder

        Knight Ridder Article

        See TeacherKen, all Madsen did was name the companies and countries and organizations that were involved with Brewster Jennings, which the MSM knew but refused to print.  There was also the NYT and the WAPO, but the story is not just from FTW.  That is the usefulness of the Madsen story for me.  It opens up a lot of leads.

    •  Not the only error ... (4.00)
      ...Wilson NEVER determined that the memorandum of agreement regarding sale of yellowcake from Niger to Iraq was forged. As he notes in his own recounting of his trip:

      (As for the actual memorandum, I never saw it. But news accounts have pointed out that the documents had glaring errors -- they were signed, for example, by officials who were no longer in government -- and were probably forged. And then there's the fact that Niger formally denied the charges.)

      To be charitable, Madsen is well-known for this kind of sloppy "reporting." If only this were his only sin as an "investigative reporter," he might be forgiven, but in piece after piece, when he isn't stretching facts to fit his theories, he's making basic reporting errors.

      "The President wanted to go into Iraq in the worst possible way. And he did." -- Nancy Pelosi

      by Meteor Blades on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 05:10:59 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  But isn't Wilson arguing that the docs are indeed (none)

        news accounts have pointed out that the documents had glaring errors -- they were signed, for example, by officials who were no longer in government -- and were probably forged. And then there's the fact that Niger formally denied the charges

        I don't trust Madsen anymore than I do the WP, the NYT, the others.   But I do think Ruppert and Madsen have enough credibility to be read with a grain of salt and then discussed here on KOS.  I look at everything and decide what rings true and what can be verified from other sources.

        In this case, the White House itself admitted BJ was a CIA front so there is no denying the basic story--yet there had never been a discussion on KOS that I saw about BJ.  So here is ALL the info.

        •  Hogwash. Every day on Daily Kos ... (4.00)
          ...and a hundred other sites in the left blogworld, we righteously rip apart bad and/or propagandistic reporting by the megamedia. It behooves us, consequently, not to accept the reporting of propagandists even if they provide a point of view (or good conspiracy theory) we are inclined to agree with.

          Yes, you say we should take Madsen's and Ruppert's reporting with a grain of salt, but then say that their reporting is very informative and seems to be true.

          Seems to be true? Since Madsen regularly chooses to stretch facts to fit around his theories, adding stuff that is wholly true, partially true, and completely invented, the difference between him and Judith Miller escapes me. Just because his belated reporting coincides in a few places with what was previously reported in other media does not make all that he writes informative or true.

          Of course, ANY topic is fair game here at Daily Kos, whether it's patriotism or Bush's approval rating or who was hanging out with a rifle on the grassy knoll in Dallas in November 1963. But who we choose as sources of information about crucial national issues says a good deal about whether we are gullible or skeptical media consumers.

          "The President wanted to go into Iraq in the worst possible way. And he did." -- Nancy Pelosi

          by Meteor Blades on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 05:54:58 PM PDT

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      •  Exactly (none)
        Very frustrating to see this important story get so cluttered up here on dKos with articles by Wayne Madsen of all people.  Madsen is not worth quoting, for the reasons MB gives.  

        Is there an "unrecommend" button?

        Fight this generation, fight this generation...

        by daria g on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 06:39:36 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  see here (none)
        for extensive details and timeline on the Uranium lies...

        go here

        "What difference does it make to the dead.....whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or.....liberty and democracy?" - Gandhi

        by AlyoshaKaramazov on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 08:05:20 AM PDT

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  •  I'm trying to figure out the reason (none)
    for outing Plame.  Greed or stupidity? Either one is a pretty poor characteristic for leaders of our country.  

    My child rides the short train to Hogwarts.

    by offred on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 04:18:03 PM PDT

    •  Multiple reasons (4.00)
      all mostly aimed at cutting down critics (Wilson, the CIA, etc) of BushCo policy to start a war in Iraq for phony, trumped-up reasons.

      Truthtellers, be they Amb. Wilson who found no yellowcake, the whole CIA WMD branch who knew there were no WMD, etc, had to be silenced so that BushCo could carry out their war on Iraq justified with lies.

      Reality - Humanity - Sustainability

      by Em on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 04:27:16 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Also wanted to shut down info on the Khan Bomb (none)
        network.  That's what Plame and the WMD Squad was likely getting close to cracking and Cheney and the gang were all mixed up in that...
        •  Exactly: (none)
          Read this again:

          What I Didn't Find in Africa

          Wilson essentailly accuses CHENEY. This assertion has dissapeared in the hubub of the proceedings against the reporters.

          What about this?:

          "In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report."

          There is a taint of death - a flavor of mortality in lies - which is exactly what I hate and detest in the world - what I want to forget.

          by Hauer Santos on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 06:58:45 AM PDT

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    •  May be a bit (none)
      of a petulant temper tantrum also over having Joe Wilson go public with his assertions that there was no yellow cake going to Iraq. He wouldn't tell them them what they wanted to hear and got slapped down.

      "The diesel engine can be fed with vegetable oils and would help considerably in the development of agriculture of the countries which use it." R. Diesel, 1911

      by nuttymango on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 04:55:41 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Discrediting Wilson was the goal (none)
      When Wilson disputed the President's state of the union assertion about the yellowcake, the White House tried to persuade reporters that Wilson was a Dem operative playing partisan politics (which they of course just don't :::snick:::).

      The CIA had sent Wilson to Niger because of his expertise, so how do you blow the man down?  

      Ooo-aah.  That's NOT why he was sent!!!!  He was sent because of his wife's nepotismic dirty dealing and, y'know, she gave money to GORE once.  WOW.  It's a blue plot to destroy America!

      "Injustice wears ever the same harsh face wherever it shows itself." - Ralph Ellison

      by KateCrashes on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 09:19:26 PM PDT

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  •  Robert Novak - The Republican Jonathan Pollard (4.00)

    And we thought it was just playing politics.

    Throe Ho Ho, and a bottle of Rum. :)

    by cskendrick on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 04:35:55 PM PDT

  •  There is a God (none)
    And he invented the Internet to protect us from evil, traitorous, hypocritical cretins like Karl Rove from ruling the world.

    That Rove may be outed as a deeply closeted gay, along with the likes of Ralph Reed and Gary Bauer, says alot about the merits of "intelligent design" of the universe.

    Wow, what a weekend in history, huh, folks?

  •  If this is true... (none)
    ...then perhaps we're getting more proof that Bushco is just a puppet government for the Saudi's?

    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. -Tom Paine

    by Alumbrados on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 05:26:25 PM PDT

  •  Cuba, anyone? (none)
    You know....according to Cheney, Guantanamo is a damn fine place.  When the shit hits the fan and Rove & Co. are hung out to dry, I think a nice trip to Gitmo would be just the thing.
  •  Bookmarked & Recommended! (none)

    I reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks in Sozadee CA.

    by The Messenger on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 06:02:09 PM PDT

  •  how is it b.j. and impeachment (none)
    seem to be synonymous in this country, happy 4th of july weekend everybody.
  •  Bush wouldn't have known what Karl was up to... (none)
    What probably happened in the White House:  Bush got pissed at Wilson and told Rove, "We've gotta do something about that guy!" meaning "get back at him."  

    The usual method for that type of retaliation would be to have had Wilson reassigned to a crappy job somewhere, for example on drug detail in Colombia, or on some inconsequential island in the Pacific.  And of course, if Wilson had complained, the news story would have been "CIA dissident pisses-off bosses, gets demoted, and bitches about it, ho-hum" and that would have been the end of it.

    But all of Karl's history suggests he's a diagnosable sociopath, and one thing we know well about sociopaths is that they are impulsive, they can plan at a tactical level but very often can't plan at a strategic level.

    So Karl finds out that Wilson's wife is also CIA, and possibly also finds out she's a Democrat, so that makes her a tempting target.

    Meanwhile Karl fails to put together the BJ part (odd coincidence how another "BJ" nearly brought down Clinton, there is justice in the world, eh?).  

    Now here we should consider that if it's true that Plame was going after data on Saudi reserves, which information is protected by the Saudi govt as if it were atomic-bomb secrets, then it's clear that American oil interests -including Bush's and Cheney's friends- would have benefited from that data.  

    So outing Plame deprives the Admin of a line of intel it has a serious interest in.  This is why I don't think Bush was fully aware of what Rove was up to.  If he had known, he would have put a stop to it for that reason: don't shoot the oil interests in the foot.  

    But Karl would have been acting on impulse, as sociopaths are want to do, and would have done the deed without informing Bush and Cheney what he was up to.  And after the fact, Bush & Cheney would have had to "circle the wagons" despite being pissed off at what Karl did.

    In short, Bush / Cheney had a motive to not out Plame, and Karl had a personality trait that would have caused him to do it impulsively.  This all fits together pretty well.

    So the question remains, who was the other leaker?  

    If my hypothesis is any good, it would have had to be someone with a personality trait that was inclined toward revenge and impulsiveness, but who was largely ignorant of the issues related to oil interests.   Any guesses?  

    •  Well, who departed? (none)
      Why did Douglas Feith resign so quickly when he was one of the neo-cons? Scooter Libby gave permission for the reporters to talk about their conversations.  Tenet was still there and now gone. And why did GW have to get a lawyer? Because maybe he did tell someone or a few people that she was CIA. And then there is Karen Hughes who has been flying under the radar lately. Had Ari left yet?  

      The Fall guy will probably be someone we have never heard of as in Deep Throat. Felt who???????????

      Do you think they are drawing straws over in the WH?

      Fix the Problems, Don't create new ones

      by BarnBabe on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 07:51:26 PM PDT

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    •  Or (none)
      Perhaps the oil interests and Saudi family would prefer US intelligence deaf and dumb about their affairs.  Perhaps they got exactly what they wanted and the vindictive Karl just thought he was being his usual vindictive self.
      •  yes, that makes sense (none)

        So then the question: was someone acting at the behest of the Saudis?  

        That would make them an agent of a foreign government, if I'm not mistaken.  Is that enough to qualify for criminal charges?  

    •  it has been reported that Bush knew (none)
      and did nothing about he was complicit in the outing and, therefore, punishable as well--if these witnesses turn out to be telling the truth...

      Witnesses told a federal grand jury President George W. Bush knew about, and took no action to stop, the release of a covert CIA operative's name to a journalist in an attempt to discredit her husband, a critic of administration policy in Iraq.

      Their damning testimony has prompted Bush to contact an outside lawyer for legal advice because evidence increasingly points to his involvement in the leak of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame's name to syndicated columnist Robert Novak.

      The move suggests the president anticipates being questioned by prosecutors. Sources say grand jury witnesses have implicated the President and his top advisor, Karl Rove.

      link to story

      "People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of their character."--Ralph Waldo Emerson

      by rioduran on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 08:37:51 PM PDT

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    •  John Hannah? David Wurmser? (none)
      Wilson's pointed to both of them in the past -- and also to Elliot Abrams.

      The googling is rich on all three.

      "Injustice wears ever the same harsh face wherever it shows itself." - Ralph Ellison

      by KateCrashes on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 09:21:43 PM PDT

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    •  Bolton (4.00)

      I'm starting to think it was Bolton.  He got NSA transcripts on US persons (not an easy task), and he's been refusing to give same to the Senate in his confirmation hearings.  

      What if those transcripts pertained to Wilson and/or Plame...?

      Bolton certainly has shown impulsive and vindictive behavior, no question about that.  

      So: subpoena his staffers, who had access to the material.  

      If this turns out to be the case, the shit is going to hit the fan bigtime.  Bolton plus Rove.  

      As for whether Bush knew and let it pass: if the perps downplayed the significance of it, he might have let it pass without being sufficiently knowledgeable about what "it" was to be considered culpable.

      I'm starting to think that simply getting a bunch of them on lesser included charges such as perjury and disclosure of classified information (as opposed to e.g. treason) might be useful.  The key here is to a) take them out of circulation until after 2008, and a few years in prison will do that; and b) get enough political traction from this to sway the '06 and '08 elections: all it takes is a few percent of the voters; and c) the lesser included charges won't kick up as big a battle from the White House, so we're more likely to get convictions faster.  

    •  several things (none)
      -What is exactly BJ still unclear (The article only make weak leap that BJ works for aramco. most newspaper can't even locate their building, let alone what they do)

      If the connection above can be proven, then the theory has legs. Otherwise, no story.

      -Figuring out 'peak oil' doesn't need such high caliber spy. (a person with background tracking nuclear activities? come on... over kill don't you think?)  Peak oil data is geological/mining data. It can be estimated some otherway. Simple bribes here and ther would do it. Why send a NOC? doesn't make sense.

      -Bushies are crude. It fits their pattern. They are not smooth enough to pull fine art of long term scheming with such great delicacy.

  •  Hmm. Some Interesting History.... (none)
    Ashcroft saw a BAD THING coming and got the hell out of the way!

    The date on this Burnt Orange Report is December, 2003!!

    Note the interesting grammar here, maybe I'm reading too much into this but perhaps I'm not:

    Comey announced that Ashcroft had stepped aside to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest after reviewing evidence recently developed in the inquiry.

    Other stories have noted that Ashcroft kept very close tabs on the investigation, being briefed on every new news that came up. Now, after reviewing all of this, after hearing all of this confidential information he's doing a complete 180 on the administration's policy and passing the buck to someone else. If he had done this from the beginning we'd just say that he was being cautious, being honest. Now, after the investigation has been on going, it seems as though he's trying to get out of the way of an oncoming freight train.


    "You! Telling me the things you're gonna do for me. I ain't blind and I don't like what I think I see." -Doobie Brothers

    by prophet on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 07:18:02 PM PDT

  •  Has anyone noticed (none)
    how much easier it may now be for terrorists to acquire radioactive material?

    With WMD operatives in many countries now "out of business", who is going to be watching?

    Are we safer today?  NOT!

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke

    by CyberDem on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 07:48:00 PM PDT

  •  The Mahfouz connections... (none)
    ...sounds more like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon (separation).  

    Be the creature. (But not a Republican.) blogomni

    by boran2 on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 07:57:12 PM PDT

  •  the other vindictive one: Bolton (none)

    I was thinking about the issue of "who else" would be the second high administration official to be a source to Novak.

    How'bout Bolton?

    He had managed to get hold of raw transcripts of NSA intercepts on US persons (this is not easy), which have become a hot button issue in his confirmation.  Could two of those persons be Wilson and Plame?

    And some of his staffers saw that material.

    So how'bout getting his staffers into a grand jury room, under oath, to testify about whether the names Wilson and/or Plame were in those transcripts?   Then if they say Yes, there's good reason to turn over the transcripts, and then comes the shitstorm with both Rove and Bolton getting indicted.

  •  What's the link with ARAMCO? (4.00)
    You say:

    OVer decades, the CIA had built up the fake firm and through it insinuated agents to keep an eye on not only WMD, but also ARAMCO, Saudi Arabia and their oil production and politics. Hundreds of agents have worked for Brewster Jennings and Associates. Traitor Novak emperiled all of their lives and the lives of their informants.

    Do you have other sources besides Ruppert and Madsen to link the front company (BJ&A) with ARAMCO? And how is it known that there were hundreds of agents who have used BJ&A as a cover?

    It's plausible that the CIA keeps tabs on ARAMCO by some means. But what I'm getting is that Ruppert or Madsen is (are) confusing the real Brewster Jennings (deceased) with the front company and thereby making the connections with ARAMCO.

    What seems to be the case here is that someone in the WH wanted to retaliate against Wilson by discrediting him. They used his wife's occupation as a means to do this, somewhat ironic. At some point someone traced a record of her contribution to Gore, just to insinuate the Wilsons are Democrats and further try to damage his credibility. They may have also wanted to hint that the contribution was illegal, as there wasn't a company named BJ&A, according to Novak. He was wrong, as administration officials (unnamed) later confirmed to the WP that it was a CIA front company.

    The interesting bit is who tipped Novak about BJ&A. Was he doing his own research on FEC records or was he tipped by his WH sources with the specifics of her contribution? Already knowing that Plame was a CIA employee and then pointing out the company she was supposed to work for is careless as that company could be a front company.

    Was Novak setup by his sources in the WH? Or did he just ignore the possibility he was going to name the front company? As someone else indicated, there is a sociopath or more involved in this scheme. It could be Novak, it could be his sources, but we may find out later that it is all of them.

    •  I noticed that too-- (4.00)
      that the article was missing a clear connection between BJ & Associates (the CIA front, not the deceased Exxon Mobil guy) and ARAMCO.  Absent that important link, Ruppert's hypothesis gets a little shaky.  The convential narrative (retaliation against Wilson and/or warning shot to intel community) seems the more plausible one.
  •  this is the mother lode people (none)
    god bless you sherlock google...and lucky for us you are on our side!

    Jesus: Destroy this temple - Gospel of John

    by The Gnostic on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 08:46:26 PM PDT

  •  Whee! (none)
    It's like one of them convoluted techno-thriller spy apocalypse novels.

    Except real-ish.

    Much crazier than a lot of silly conspiracy theories.

    The Shapeshifter's Blog -- Politics, Philosophy, and Madness!

    by Shapeshifter on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 09:25:01 PM PDT

  •  Authenticity. (none)
    I am looking forward to Rove in the Big House as much as anyone.  And if we have deaths in conjunction with the leak, we have a very serious crime.

    The question in my mind is how reliable is the information that people died due to the release of the CIA front company.  I don't know the author and I don't know his reliability.

    If there is something here, lets go full speed.  But lets know if it is true first.

    Sorry to be a wet blanket.

  •  Shameless plug for FTW (none)
    Wow.  I didn't know some of us actually read From The Wilderness publication (very fine investigative newspaper btw).  Mike Ruppert who publishes FTW has been on the records for years about the Bushco's shady connections.  He's also the man who single-handedly brought down John Deutsch who was supposed to be Clinton's secretary of state.  
  •  ARAMCO's real secret... (none)
    Never mind bank fiddling and shell games with who's getting refinery contracts.

    The real ARAMCO secret is in "Twilight in the Desert."

    The big oil fields in Saudi are well past maturity and are having the problems that mature oil fields face, like water intrusion, solids, gas-bubble formation due to dropping reservoir pressure, etc. We can expect them to go into rapid decline soon.

    It's almost impossible that ARAMCO can meet the production targets that they say they can, and that the DoE is counting on.

    Once this becomes clear, all hell is out for noon.

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