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Today, dailykos has received over 700,000 visits, the most I can remember, though markos can tell us if it is the alltime record.

Of course, it was the atrocities in London that helped push the number so high. But it certainly speaks to the quality of the site and the community that so many came here for news, discussion and comfort on this day.

Update [2005-7-8 2:18:57 by Armando]: markos corrects me, reminding that in the days around the Election last year, the site surpassed 1 million visitors. So this might be a non-Election record.

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Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:47 PM PDT.

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  •  Wow (none)
    That's a lot. Wish I had that kind oftraffic at my site. But my site isn't this important, either.

    Phillybits "Censoring torture stories doesn't help the troops."

    by Stand Strong on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:52:36 PM PDT

    •  And, in other news (none)
      I'm playing with the Blogger template for my site. Fun stuff, changing the colors but hard to settle on something. It's a black background, and I've changed all the links to a pale green, with a purple 'visited'.

      I want to remove my archive 'list' to create more room for permanent links, and replace it with just an archives 'link' that would then take you to a page that listed the archives. The best thing I could find was a script to create a drop-down box that would list the archive dates. Sure, it cleans it up a little but a drop-down box on an otherwise text-based page kinda takes away from it all, IMO. Plus, in the preview mode, selecting an archive date then brought you to that date spread of posts, but then the archive drop-down menu disappeared. Not really what I want if I want something permanent.

      Any suggestions from any Blogger users?

      Phillybits "Censoring torture stories doesn't help the troops."

      by Stand Strong on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:56:53 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  This is K.O.S. (4.00)
    We have literally become the CNN for the progressive community.

    Congrats everyone....

    I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

    by Volvo Liberal on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:53:17 PM PDT

  •  And looking at UID numbers (none)
    We're getting close to 60000.  Of course some of those are not used, and others have been punted off the ISP.

    But all in all - not bad for a guy with a blog ;-)

    (BTW did I make the top of the list?)

    "now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." W. Churchill

    by Thor Heyerdahl on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:53:49 PM PDT

    •  What are we supposed to (none)
      do when someone is following someone else and slamming 1's on them. It's total abuse and not sure it should go ignored.
      •  Is it happening to you (none)
        I would think that we try to do a 4 flash mobbing

        "now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." W. Churchill

        by Thor Heyerdahl on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:56:56 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Well, (none)
        what you shouldn't do is start tracking their comments and troll-rating them. Big the bigger person and just call them out next time you see them post a comment somewhere. Point it out and others will take note. Then that person loses credibility, fast.

        Phillybits "Censoring torture stories doesn't help the troops."

        by Stand Strong on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:58:13 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  You're Right (none)
          I received a nice little deuce (2) from somebody earlier today who breathlessly posted, "I'll look around Mr. Hunter sir to see if I can find any comments that disagree with you and I'll give them 1's or 2's. OK, Mr' Hunter sir? C'mon guys, let's go...."

          And then the friggin toady Hunter wannabe tells me that my "tone" was too angry and I nearly got a one. You see I disagreed with the maudlin "Today we are all Brits" post. I said I would stay Canadian and we should stop romanticizing 50 western victims when we did not romanticize 50 000 Iraqi victims. For that I got a 2.

          Canada - where a pack of smokes is ten bucks and a heart transplant is free.

          by dpc on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 05:27:28 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  It happens (none)

              I had some nasty shots across my bow in a diary regarding a bird that was thought to have been extinct. A living one was found, and I honestly and respectfully stated how it did not seem exciting or important to me.

              There was one useful critique, which stated that the discovery could be an indicator of changing climate or help to improve methods of determining extinction.  

              However, others told me to change my name to "Mr. Buzzkill" and something to the effect of "go walking through the woods near large, hungry animals".

            One hand forward with a flower, one hand behind with the dagger.

            by Predator Saint on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 02:15:42 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  Question? (none)
    Maybe I've missed the answer in another post here on dailyKos.  But what I want to know is, in the midst of these investigations of reporters Cooper and Miller, how has Robert Novak escaped investigation?  He wrote the article "outing" Plame.  Why hasn't he been called before the grand jury?  Why aren't they investigating him?

    Just wondering...

    Blast Off! It's party time! And where the f*ck are you? - System of a Down

    by trinityX127 on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:53:58 PM PDT

  •  Thought and solace (none)
      Those 700k hits show in some part a great respect for the thought and consideration exposed on DailyKos. This is not a news site per se, but the news runs through it.

      I guess we're filter feeders looking for great explication of what this world is, insight and emotion, depth and cohesive threads of thought, anwering what is actually going on at the moment, which is always a point of some conflict and agreement. There's always a certain sharing, of sorrow today and mystification of the turn of events.

      DailyKos is here because it was necessary, the massaging function of the net creating both a conscience and an advocacy, a concerted move toward resolution to what ails us. We're much better off together than apart.

  •  Kos Birthday (none)
    And in a few weeks it will be my 1 year anniversary at Kos. I feel like I've been here forever!

    And to think I am User 19312 and now we are almost up to 60000.


    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds - Albert Einstein.

    by GregNYC on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 10:57:45 PM PDT

  •  what will it take (none)
    for kos to have a blogasm? 1,000,000?;)
  •  Top Ten List (4.00)
    It might be interesting to - if possible - to list the top ten busiest days on Kos.
  •  You probably deserve (none)
    a little credit for that, Armando.  Controversy is never a bad thing for the ratings.
    •  Ugh (none)
      Gawd I hope not.

      I'd rather think that the Miller discussion helps, cuz that is darn interesting and important.

      The SCOTUS is Extraordinary.

      by Armando on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 11:07:49 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's London, (none)
        I'm fairly sure.  I got up this morning and saw London on CNN, so I immediately checked out dKos.  The diaries were full of good info.  You behaved badly, which was entertaining in a small way (only once), but it was great to see the expat and foreign diaries giving first-hand accounts of what was going on.  And you people in England really are amazing.  Hopefully we can get back to the Miller stuff after we've processed the London bombings.
      •  Yeah it is important (none)
        I disagreed with you on Miller notwithstanding Powell's concurrence but in most cases, this situation does not present itself.

        By the way, if you've won cases based on Powell's concurrence in Branzburg I'd love to be in your practice.  Sounds like tons of fun.

  •  That's great! (none)
    I had no idea that with 60,000 registered members that there would be that many others who are not registered.

    Could there be many multi-hits by the same person?  It'd be interesting to see how many differences there are.

    Open thread question: my display is still not right since the switch to 3.0. It's totally elongated rather than side-by-side columns. The menus that used to be on the right are now at the bottom.

    Anyone have any ideas? I'm already max'ed on my resolution at 1024x768. I might be getting used to it but I don't think so.

    Someday, after the forest fire of the Right has died we'll say "Whew, I'm happy that's over."

    by CanYouBeAngryAndStillDream on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 11:08:54 PM PDT

    •  I have problems like that too (none)
      but only at work, where the monitor only supports 800x600 or 1024x768.

      At home, I run at 1024x1280, I think it is and it looks fine, for the most part. I think. Dang, now I don't know.

      Phillybits "Censoring torture stories doesn't help the troops."

      by Stand Strong on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 11:14:33 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  A few more days like this.... (none)
    ... and maybe Markos will rate higher than #52 on Bernard Goldberg's next enemies list!  :D

    This is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.

    by socal on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 11:11:39 PM PDT

  •  700 000 (none)
    That is an amazing total. It's almost as if we morph from an opinion blog to an interactive news centre when something huge is happening.  

    Canada - where a pack of smokes is ten bucks and a heart transplant is free.

    by dpc on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 11:16:13 PM PDT

  •  The U.K. Response here last nite was overwhelming (4.00)
    over nite (our time)  - morning (euro time)

    After PP put up the open thread: Brit after Brit after Brit and from parts all over (Deep Dark of course in Australia; LondonYank was Dubai; Germany, Spain, France, etc.)

    And such tender remarks and such sharp observations from those near the scences and from those familiar with the affected scences.

    Then EuroNewsies pitched in, posting updates from local feeds.

    It was all so extraordinary and all so heartbreaking.....

    The noted novelist John Updike, as a young man, was a newsman, whose job was to sit in front of the Wire teletype and read the dispatches; and he was in the chair when three bells went off (signaling the seldom used urgent "Flash" traffic flag) on November 22, 1963....  And reading the Newsies updates on the casualties made me think of that experience has I wiped tears from my eyes.

  •  Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti (none)
    Please send your thoughts to this part of the world. A major hurricane is passing through, and i dont even have words to describe the suffering that may come to the poorest areas of the caribbean. Unlike Florida, there's no FEMA, theres no congress giving billions of dollars of aid, and donations that pour in, theres no military planes with aid landing withi n minutes of the hurricane passing. So please keep that in mind
  •  You're Being Watched (none)
    I was looking over Republican sites to see what they were saying about the London bombings and I ran into this from Michelle Malkin.

    Reactions From the American Left

    Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed. Mao

    by daimon on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 11:32:06 PM PDT

    •  I hope so (3.40)
      You're Being Watched

      that's good, cause I'm the kind of guy who needs a secret audience

      If I see the bastards watching me, I get stage fright, so tell em to watch from good hiding places

    •  She's watching selectively... (none)
      First of all...YOU MADE ME VISIT HER SITE, you rat bastahd.  Hope yer happy.

      Second...she selectively chose posts that leaned ever toward Bush's world view. Those probably represent 3% of the opinions expressed on this site.

      Third...she's an idiot.  She can only defend this status quo by saying "Bombs are exploding!"  "Be Afraid!"  "Attack Iraq Some More!"

      But if she's out there still trolling-- Hi Michelle!  Welcome aboard. If you can actually comprehend what you are reading, you might learn you something.

    •  omg (none)
      She links to Debbie Schlussel, I went to school with her, no freaking way.  I knew she was a pundit, saw her get creamed on Politically Incorrect years ago but had NO IDEA.  I think Dennis Miller might have been on that show too, come tot hink of it.  He was much cooler then.  Not cool, but better than today.

      I have to go

      She used to come to our high school peace group and make comments, was on debate team for a year.  Blast from past.

      ''I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.'' Barry Goldwater, 1981 When conservatives were, well...conservative.

      by lizah on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 02:36:48 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  The Left is right. (none)
      I read through some of this, and tracked the link to Debbie Schlussel and wasn't as revolted by the ideology as I expected.  That's good.

      The analysis is just pathetic, they're hardly even trying to give any.  There's better analysis here in any 5 inches of comments on a usual basis, even with ideas I disagree with.

      Seems to be some in-fighting between the ladies though.  Thanks for the link, I only dip my toes into those waters now and then.  I have to learn more about Schlussel though.

      ''I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.'' Barry Goldwater, 1981 When conservatives were, well...conservative.

      by lizah on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 02:49:32 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I'm very entertained by that (none)
      If they give importance to what we're saying, if they give us attention that we aren't even trying for, all the better. I found out about Kos from accidentally reading some right-wing hack's bitching about the site.

      The more they get pissed off about us, they more they say "Can you believe what those liberals over there are saying?", the more people will come here like I did, and the better we'll be.

      Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. - Martin Luther King Jr.

      by jabbausaf on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 09:45:12 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Finding your UID (none)
    Is easier than finding your IUD, especially if you are a guy.

    Simply find a post that you made (with your name on it) and put your cursor on it.  Don't click.  Look at the bottom of your screen in the little bar (I'm on a PC with the window fully open) and you'll see your UID.

  •  Many Congrats. More info on that statistic? (none)
    Sorry in advance if this stat has been explained somewhere else.  Is this traffic statistic unique visits, visitors?  Just curious.  I've been in the internet business for some years, so I know it's not trivial to analyze the traffic but just wondering if that's unique IP addresses or sessions or how you do the metrics.  I've often wondered how many people are reading this site, and always hope it's growing exponentially in influence, as things like this are known to do.

    In any case it's something to be proud of for Markos and all who make this site possible and attractive for readers.  I certainly have begun to come here first to see what's happening (and most relevant) and also to learn more and find great information and views.  My congrats and gratitude to Kos and community.

    "KBO." "It's the order of the day." -- Winston Churchill

    by joanneleon on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 11:37:35 PM PDT

  •  Fucking Guliani (none)
    Is on BBC Five Live right now - I had to put the mute on my audio player

    One of America's upper-class twits of the century

    "now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." W. Churchill

    by Thor Heyerdahl on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 12:00:27 AM PDT

  •  If you knew Sandra, like I know Sandra, oh....! (none)
    Sick of all the saccharine hype over Sandra Day O'Connor? Find out how she single-handedly busted my union into oblivion here.
  •  HEY (none)
    Ever want to flood some right wing idiots email with SPAM? Loo no further, just register them here:

    Republicans Enlist! Answer the call of your supreme commander!

    by librarianman on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 12:24:01 AM PDT

  •  Armando (none)
    Do you know what is going on at  It has been offline since mid-day Thurs.  It is now 3AM Friday, and the site is still down.  So is Clark's other site,

    Thanks for any info.

    Ken Salazar (D-CO), who said he'll vote for the Flag Desecration Amendment, needs to hear from us.

    by OLinda on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 01:52:19 AM PDT

  •  Junkie Post (none)
    My open thread post is really off topic, but I'm addicted to digital crack.

    Don't hate me because I like MMORPG's.

    Recruiting link for fellow junkies:

  •  1MM for Election record (none)
    700K flaccid. :)

    Throe Ho Ho, and a bottle of Rum. :)

    by cskendrick on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 04:20:35 AM PDT

  •  Srebrenica + 700 000 (none)
    People here should not forget to remember that at this weekend marks the 10th anniversary of the massacre of Srebrenica.

    As we are talking about 8000+ Muslims that were killed in the middle of europe in 1995 and look at what happened yesterday in London .. the established political systems have failed failed failed. We need more Dkos & Co. More more more.

    And by the way: There was a planed but prevented terror-attack at the memorial, too.

    The potential of christian-terrorists [this time orthodox] is not getting weaker, because muslim-terrorists act "successful".


  •  Terrorism and its root (none)
    For people who think this might have been the handiwork of middle eastern terrorists I say do not be surprised to learn that this might have been the work of South Asian origin terrorists. The only common element in the so called Islamic Terrorism cases is Pakistan. Its always people from Pakistan, or trained in Pakistan or studied in Pakistan who are involved in such acts. Do not be surprised when its name crops up. If you want to win the war on terror then we will not need to invade Pakistan but to get real tough with them and not tough in the Bush way by rewarding them with weapons and more weapons.
  •  Rudy Giuliani: 7/7 = 9/11 (none)
    Giuliani is on the Matt & Katie Bubblehead Show just now, talking about what he saw first-hand in London yesterday. I thought I heard him say this in an interview yesterday but wasn't paying strict attention. But now I hear him say again:
    It was just like 9/11.
    Am I the only one uncomfortable with this? He said more, of course, but Giuliani is in effect equating the destruction and emotions of yesterday, to what happened in NYC.

    I don't get it.

    London was bad; these acts of violence destroyed the lives of dozens of innocent people, injured hundreds more, and caused damage sure to disrupt commuters for a while to come. But 9/11? Jeebus, not even close, Rudy. You of all people should know better.

    I find his behaviour yesterday and today...what's the word I'm looking for...I'll settle for distateful for now.

    He has oil. He tried to kill my daddy.

    by kensa on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 04:26:09 AM PDT

  •  Diary whore alert (none)
    Haven't done this in ages...

    Robert Fisk's take on the bombing

    "now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." W. Churchill

    by Thor Heyerdahl on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 04:44:20 AM PDT

  •  Thanks be to Kos (none)
    our ombudsman.

    Outside the box solutions at low, low prices!

    by Jonathan4Dean on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 05:08:24 AM PDT

  •  MSM Anglo hypocrisy (none)
    Maybe I mis-remember, but it sure seems like the breathless commentary and sympathy in the chattering classes was MUCH less pronounced after the Madrid bombings.
    I guess speaking English makes your tragedy more human to Anderson Cooper.  Maybe people just don't really know where Spain is.
    •  You may be right, but... (none)
      for someone who has traveled to London, this seems even more shocking because of how heavily covered with cameras the Underground is. Both are unpardonable of course, nothing can dimimish that, but the hutzpah of these guys to do it there, wow.
  •  A really stupid thing (none)
    This comment yesterday by one of National Review's stable of bloggers has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read:

    Because company policy prevents its reporters from using "emotive" words like "terrorism" or "terrorists", Reuters has to resort to awkward phrases like the following:

        Security experts said the blasts had all the hallmarks of the al Qaeda network responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States and the Madrid train bombings in 2004.

    Yes, they did have all the hallmarks of the al Qaeda network responsible for those attacks on the United States and Madrid, didn't they? What were those hallmarks? The unlawful use of violence by an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons? Isn't there a word in the English language that brings all those "hallmarks" under one rubric? I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with TERRORISM, YOU MORONS!

    So, in a nutshell, this guy is all worked up because Reuters tried to explain that this attack looks like the work of al-Qaeda.  Apparently you must call it "terrorism," and say nothing more, or you are insufficiently bloodthirsty.

  •  INFLUENCE (none)
    Blog Whoring, Blog Whoring

    How do we take advantage of our numbers?  

    Do you want your voice heard???

    The snark is mightier than the sword.

    by chuckles1 on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 07:57:27 AM PDT

  •  I come here because... (none) remind me of the kind of American friends I have and the people I knew during my time in America, though I've never met any of you.

    And yesterday, watching in horror as my country was being attacked, I wanted to hear how the rest of the World was responding, and in a strange, surreal way, I was trying to read as much as I could about the attacks to try and process what was happening and to take my mind off whether the friends I couldn't contact were  ok (they were).

    Daily Kos really helped yesterday. Thanks guys n gals.

  •  Incredible... (none)
    Kos is a truly remarkable sitemaster, and this site is an invaluable resource.  Thank you.

    "The Britons never, never, never shall be slaves!" Daily Kos remembers 7/7/05

    by teenagedallasdeaniac on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 08:22:39 AM PDT

  •  A political force (none)
    I see internet sites like this and others being a significant force in the 2006 and 2008 elections, and beyond. DailyKos is a rallying point for political efforts and fundraising, for minute-by-minute coverage of election news without MSM influence.

    This site makes a difference now, and just wait. It'll do more in the future. DailyKos is like Wonkette with posting capabilities.

    Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. - Martin Luther King Jr.

    by jabbausaf on Fri Jul 08, 2005 at 09:47:52 AM PDT

  •  Amazing (none)
    700K, that's wonderful.  wait til next Nov.

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