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Camp Casey
Day 3
The Peaceful Occupation of Camp Crawford

Where do I begin?

Today was a highly eventful day. This entry won't be artful, but utilitarian.

I conservatively got 3 to 5 phone calls a minute. I did about 25 phone interviews and several TV interviews. I did several right-wing radio interviews. I was supposed to do: The Today Show, MSNBC live interview, Connected Coast to Coast (MSNBC) and Hardball (MSNBC). The Today Show just never showed up and the other 3 MSNBC shows cancelled for no reason. Could it be because NBC is owned by General Electric, a major defense contractor??

Another big story that was going on today was about my first meeting with Bush in June of 2004. For you all I would like to clarify a few things. First of all, I did meet with George, and that is not a secret. I have written about it and been interviewed about it. I will stand by my recounting of the meeting. His behavior was rude and inappropriate. My behavior in June of 2004 and is irrelevant to what is going on in 2005. I was in deep shock and deep grief. The grief is still there, but the shock has worn off and the deep anger has set in. And to remind everybody, a few things have happened since June of 2004: The 9/11 commission report; the Senate Intelligence report; the Duelfer WMD report; and most damaging and criminal: the Downing Street Memos. The VERY LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS: Why do the right wing media so assiduously scrutinize the words of a grief filled mother and ignore the words of a lying president?

In the early afternoon, we got word that if we were still there by Thursday, we were going to be deemed a "security threat" to the president. Condi and Rummy are coning in on Thursday for a "policy" meeting. Don't they mean conspiracy to commit crimes meeting? I just don't understand why we will be a security threat on Thursday when we aren't now? If we don't leave on Thursday, we will be arrested. Well, I am not leaving. There are only three things that would make me leave: if George comes out and talks to me; if August comes to an end, or if I am arrested.

People are heading here from all over the country. I have some more Gold Star Families for Peace members coming tomorrow. We are amazed by the outpouring of love and support we are getting. If you can come, then come. 62% of the American public are against this war and want our troops home. We need to show the media that we are in the majority. We need to show George Bush and his evil cabal of neocons that when we say "bring the troops home, now" we mean "bring the troops home, now!!!"

In the late afternoon, many of us left to go back to the peace house in Crawford because there was going to be a major lightening storm. While most of us were gone, the Sheriff came and told us that what we were told was county property really was private property and we would have to remove our stuff to a tiny place, or get it confiscated. I find it interesting that the county sheriff did not know that roads in his county that lead up to the presidential vacation home are private roads. I find it very hard to believe. The bastards think that they are pushing us off, but we will not leave there voluntarily or without handcuffs on. My only hope is, there will be tons of media there when they carry me to the squad car.

Today was so bizarre for me. I got phone calls from famous people pledging their support, and phone calls from mothers with sons in Iraq who are overcome with emotion when they talk to me. And it is so brave for them to call me, because I am their worst fear. We had a young man who is in the US Army at Ft. Hood come this morning and spend hours with us. He has been there and his unit is scheduled to go back in October. How much courage did that take for him to come within earshot of his commander in chief's home and spend time with some old hippy protestors???

We have lawyer working on getting us closer and working on magically turning the private property back into county property again. I have some awesome young ladies for Code Pink answering my phone and taking phone calls. We have Veteran's for Peace out there putting up banners (our tiny campsite looks real nice). We have concerned citizens from all over America starting to come in. IT IS FREAKIN' AMAZING, FOLKS!!!

Come and join us and let your voices be joined with ours. AMEN!!!

Originally posted to CindySheehan on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:10 PM PDT.

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  •  tip jar for cindy (1.96)
    the hell with who i am

    "Badgers don't fight fair, bubba. That's why God made dachshunds." - HST

    by dukeraoul on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:05:39 PM PDT

    •  hey duke... (4.00)
      aren't you collecting cindy's mojo to your name here?

      just askin...

      i can't think of a funny signature line right now.

      by skippy on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 10:46:46 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Cindy the SCOTUS set precedent (4.00)
        You can challenge the private property on the grounds of eminent domain.

        You have a petitionable grievance guaranteed by the First Amdenment and answering it is of serious impact to the betterment of communities in the persons of those who serve.

        If they go by word then of course you can also demand petition for grievance over the multi billion embezzlement scheme of standing tax appropriations for the war.

        This would then give grounds to present the full petition and the heart of the matter- that the chief Executive allowed the country to be misled im light of a growing body of evidence that he knew better.

        The attempt to make you move would probably see squatters and homesteaders ramifications as well, born of current necessity.

        Such arguments are the heart of libertine and classic traditional republican efforts as well.

        Claim legitmate petition under the First Amendment and Eminent Domain of that right over the value of personal property in regards to addressing grievance guaranteed by Constitution under the First Amdenment.

        You are a National treasure, your courage in our stead is merited by your ability to face loss boldly.

        God Bless the Gold Star Mothers and VVAW in their ongoing efforts to see our brought home safely and result full support in all regards after this war.

        Thanks,
        -Chris H.

        •  God I hope you are right! (none)
          Are you a lawyer?  I would love to see them win on this private property thing and get to stay there.

          The Christian Right is neither Witness Every Day

          by TXsharon on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 03:47:08 AM PDT

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        •  Not really (none)
          Your law on eminent domain isn't exactly correct
        •  What's the Law in TX? (none)
          In CT, a lawyer challenged the town's policy to have town owned beaches which could only be used by town residents.  He based his case on his right to free speech-that is, that he had a right to speak on the beach, which he could not exercise if he could not get on the beach.

          Consequently, our city beach is now open to anyone at all, regardless of residency.

          This could be interpreted to say that free speech trumps property rights, although that may only be true for municipal, state, county or federally owned properties.

          Maybe that case would help?  Particularly if the land really does belong to the county.

      •  Butting in where I probably don't belong... (3.66)
        I noticed right away that it wasn't Ms. Sheehan, but a different user that posted the tip jar.  I thought it was odd, but didn't know if mojo was transferable.  

        And of course, wanting to see the best in people, I just assumed Duke didn't realize that simply posting the first comment and saying "tip jar" doesn't mean all of the 4's will go to the author of the diary.

        I can see why others are angry (and I'm not saying they're wrong -- I don't know), but I really hope I'm right and that Duke just made a mistake.

        Of course, it would probably be more helpful if Duke chimed in here.

        •  indecisiveness, politeness, (4.00)
          wanting to see the best in people. This is the weakness that hardcore republican partisans and warmongers are using against us.

          In other words, they are using our own goodness to beat the shit out of us. That's how evil they are.

          dukerauol does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. Not at all. Quit doubting yourself. The beatings will not stop until you do.

          In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

          by yet another liberal on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 10:37:12 AM PDT

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          •  Whoah, now! whaaaaoh! (4.00)
            Everybody relax.  C'mon, now!  On a Cindy Post Let's not fight!

            This diary is about UNITY & PROGRESSIVE PRIDE!  IT'S ABOUT BACKING EACH OTHER UP!!

            How the hell can anybody be angry when we're reading another GREAT diary by Cindy??

            HUH???

            (IF you REEALLY are Cindy??  Hmmmm....Check her credentials!  Call the FBI!!  No. wait.  Don't do that!)

            Ok. Getting my point??  :-)

            Duke's not a troll (a quick chick of his comments'd prove that) & yeah, dammit, he made a mistake.  Give him the rating he deserves & move on.

            *
            This thing's about ONE MOTHER'S STAND AGAINST AN ILLEGITIMATE, ARROGANT MAN WHO CANNOT CLAIM TO BE A LEADER IF HE REFUSES TO COME OUT & LISTEN TO ONE OF HIS CONSTITUENTS!!

            THAT'S NOT LEADERSHIP!  THAT'S COWARDICE!!

            & i urge my fellow Kossacks to put your anger to the right people & get behind this INCREDIBLE woman with positive energy, your progressive beliefs & THE SAME DAMN CONVICTION A MOTHER WHO'S LOST HER SON TO WAR WOULD HAVE!!

            Gold Star Families for Peace
            http://gsfp.org/

            Still not Worth it By Cindy
            http://www.lewrockwell.com/sheehan/sheehan10.html

          •  Oh, not to worry. (none)
            Ah, if you knew me off-line. :)

            Just to clarify: I'm not terribly indecisive.  Or, for that matter, polite.  I just like to double check first.  

            I agree with you that we can't afford the luxury of being nice, since Republicans equate "nice" with "weak."  However, I didn't get the impression that Duke was a hardcore Replublican partisan or a warmonger, so I didn't open the can of whoop-ass.  

            (Hey, why waste good whoop-ass on people here, when there are so many others who need it more?) :)

    •  It's bad form (3.74)
      to post a phony tip jar.  Have a zero to offset those a couple of those 4s.

      "Make no mistake about it: We are At War now - with somebody - and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives"-- HST, 9/12/01

      by mraker on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 10:59:53 PM PDT

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  •  Hang in there Cindy. We're behind you! (4.00)

    Visit The Blog Roundup - the Best of Politics on the Web.

    by Trendar on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:05:49 PM PDT

    •  whatever you do, cindy... (4.00)
      do not let the media get you out of their sight. as long as you're in the spotlight, the support for the war poll numbers keep going down, and down, and down.
      •  And about that there Media... (4.00)
        ... I would also like to let you know that these networks/stations are very badly organized it seems, at times flying by the seat of their collective pants. I am not surprised to hear of the schedule screwups... that is something we learned that was a surprise to us!

        No excuse for inconsiderateness and being flakey, and not to discount your theory that there may be something more than "Ooops, duhhh, we forgot!" going on... but thought I would tell of our experience.

        So not letting the media out of your sight may be even more important, because they just may wander off and get lost or something... keep them corralled and close :-)

        •  I think (4.00)
          Peter Jennings Death had something to do with it.

          *"I went to protest Dobson, and all I got was this damn feeding tube*

          by Chamonix on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 10:23:09 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Good point... (4.00)
            As I said, there may be (and probably are) other reasons, both legit and shady for the behavior of the staff scheduling these appearances. Just wanted to share our experience... unfortunately incompetence is not limited to BushCo :-)
            •  out of respect they should have (4.00)
              called, apologized and rescheduled. I have a feeling they will be back.

              *"I went to protest Dobson, and all I got was this damn feeding tube*

              by Chamonix on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 10:33:01 PM PDT

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              •  Much as I support Cindy and... (none)
                everything she's doing in Crawford, it's disengenuous for us to expect 22 year old bookers, many of whom are barely-paid interns, for these morning shows to do anything but put out the fires that are in front of them. In this case that is: get as many big media names as possible to comment on dear Peter Jennings.

                Calling war protestors with difficult phone contacts, courteous as it is, is about out of the question.

                Cindy'll get her time.

                Patience, grasshopper.

          •  Had the exact same thought. (4.00)
            Can't help but think that Peter Jennings would be covering this (in some way) if he was alive and on the air.  Believe that Cindy has an angel watching over her now.

            "Free speech is not to be regulated like diseased cattle and impure butter." William O. Douglas.

            by Street Kid on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 10:48:00 AM PDT

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            •  Bob Shieffer (4.00)
              is a Texas native... wonder if he'll come on down to do the interview?

              "I've gotten to where I can say the Lord's Prayer in ten seconds." - Evel Knievel

              by Jensequitur on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 01:08:22 PM PDT

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              •  Funny... (none)
                ...so many liberal Texas journalists...such a conservative state...all of the following are Texans:

                Bill Moyers
                Walter Cronkite
                Dan Rather

                Department of Unintended True Statements:

                "Political news is broken on Free Republic."--Kristinn Taylor, in FEC testimony on behalf of FreeRepublic LLC

                by DC Pol Sci on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:56:03 PM PDT

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                •  Perhaps it's the repressive atmosphere - (none)
                  Look at Alexander Solhenitzyn (sp?) and Russia.  Russia seems to have quite a few outspoken dissidents who weren't daunted by the prospect of being shunted off to the steppes of Mongolia.

                  "I've gotten to where I can say the Lord's Prayer in ten seconds." - Evel Knievel

                  by Jensequitur on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 06:14:05 PM PDT

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      •  Not to mention, (4.00)
        you are also safer in the spotlight.
      •  TV interviews (4.00)
        Cindy:

        I've been following this since your first post on DK last friday, where you posted that u were on your way to Crawford.  Seeing you on TV saturday was thrilling and it illustrates that the peoples' actions (courageous people like yourself) can have an impact.  To see it move from a discussion on a blog to real action is truely motivating.  I saw your interview on CBS's morning show and was again very impressed.  

        I believe your message will resonate when you continue to hammer the laundry list of bogus reasons and intentionally misleading actions by Bush's administration, including ....

        • Bushes own statements pre-presidency about getting rid of Saddam  
        • The forged Niger uranium docs
        • The outing of a CIA agent to punish critics
        • The misleading statements about the aluminum tubes
        • The pre-war no-fly-zone ramped up bombings
        • The Downing Street Minutes
        • The unprecedented Cheney intel cooking camp at the CIA
        • 911 commissions findings that Al Queda and Iraq were not working together
        • The ever-changing reasons for going into Iraq
        • The administration's media blackout on returning war dead

        Good luck and God bless.
        •  And don't forget... (4.00)
          The admission by Ridge that the terror level alert warnings were jacked up by the Bush administration, not by his department.  It's especially bad when you consider it was a voting year.

          "I've gotten to where I can say the Lord's Prayer in ten seconds." - Evel Knievel

          by Jensequitur on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 01:22:05 PM PDT

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      •  I am sure (none)
        That NBC News, MSNBC and Today all backed out to cover Peter Jennings death.  It was all Peter Jennings on all of MSNBC shows yesterday.

        Give them another call.  Tell 'em you're still there.

  •  RE (4.00)
    We support you.  Financial donation is on the way from this admirer of Cindy Sheehan and the rest of the Gold Star Families.  

    ... now watch this drive.

    by jg on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:08:55 PM PDT

  •  Oh Cindy... (4.00)
    I so want to be there, but for some reason I now am inundated with work...if someone has flight miles, I'd fly over there for a day...

    Hugs honey!!!!  God Bless.

  •  Love to you Cindy (4.00)
    I made this bracelet tonight and named the design in honor of Casey.

    I will be wearing it every day until you get the answers you deserve.



    "Casey"

    I wish I had the means to do something more immediately tangible for you.

    My heart and my spirit are with you.  Be strong.

    •  I want one! (4.00)
      Are you selling these?  Can we get these made?  Profits to help Cindy, or another peace group?  I love this - the new MIA bracelet.  I still have mine from the Vietnam days.  My soldier never came home.

      "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine Pay attention Georgie - 1800 dead Americans, 100,000+ dead Iraqis, all on your head. WWJS?

      by Miss Blue on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:47:12 PM PDT

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      •  I don't want to be exploitive (4.00)
        I'd like find some way to make them and distribute them in a helpful, non-exploitive way, but I'm not really coming up with good ideas.

        I mean, yes, I could sell them and donate the proceeds, but there's no way to offer any proof or accountability that I'm not just abscoding with the cash, and I'd rather not even run the risk of the appearance of impropriety.

        My thought was that I could make a bunch and send them to the Crawford Peace House and let them do what they want with them (e.g., "sell" them for donations or whatnot), but I have a feeling they're probably entirely too busy to deal with such trivialities.

        Any ideas would be welcome, though.

      •  Want a bracelet too.. (none)
        [snip]   I want one!
        Are you selling these?  Can we get these made?  Profits to help Cindy, or another peace group?  I love this - the new MIA bracelet.  I still have mine from the Vietnam days.  My soldier never came home. [snip]

        I want one too. I am still wearing my Vietnam-era bracelet (Hubby replaced the steel one with a gold ID bracelet about 4 years ago, saying Jimmy {my POW} deserved the best). This is my 4th, (cuz the other 3 came home, yeah!). Still waiting for Jimmy, tho...

        Lemme know where to send $ for the bracelet.

        PS, I also make jewelry, if you need help with unexpected demand...


        I Support the Separation of Church and Hate...
        Rev Denise Michel
        revdenisemichel@yahoo.com

        by rev denise michel on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 09:35:56 AM PDT

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        •  Working on an idea (4.00)
          I am thinking:

          Jewelry-making session at some central location in Chicago sometime soon.

          People come to learn an interesting hobby, and we create plenty of "Casey's" to generate donations. (The design is about as basic as it gets when it comes to skills: stringing, crimping, attaching a clasp.)

          Maybe I could even get the local bead shop where I get the beads and charms to sponsor.

          •  Jewelry-making... (4.00)
            [snip] Working on an idea
            I am thinking:
            Jewelry-making session at some central location in Chicago sometime soon.
            People come to learn an interesting hobby, and we create plenty of "Casey's" to generate donations. (The design is about as basic as it gets when it comes to skills: stringing, crimping, attaching a clasp.)
            Maybe I could even get the local bead shop where I get the beads and charms to sponsor. [snip]

            To continue the thought:

            Post the directions so we're all making the same Casey Bracelet.

            Hold jewelry-making sessions all over America, especially for those who want to do something, but can't get to Crawford.

            I'm willing to try and get one set up here, if that helps.

            Just thinking aloud (as it were)...

            I Support the Separation of Church and Hate...
            Rev Denise Michel
            revdenisemichel@yahoo.com

            by rev denise michel on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 11:47:48 AM PDT

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      •  OK (none)
        I'm going to go the total transparency route and see how it goes.

        I have a site set up (a blogspot blog I wasn't particularly using) for documenting all expenses, orders, and payments made to Gold Star Familes for Peace and Crawford Peace House.

        The details are posted there, and I'll put together a diary tomorrow night.

    •  hyperbolic (none)
      THAT IS BEAUTIFUL...OMG!!!
    •  ever heard of the honor system dude (none)
      you've been here a while, and people can obviously have a little trust

      i doubt you would spend two+ years involved in our little assylum just to make a few hundred bucks underhandedly

      here's an idea, keep an account book, scan the pages, and post your books for all to see

      his eyes are a little too close together, and he types a little to neatly for my taste, but I think everybody can trust hyperbolic pants explosion with a sawbuck or two

      •  Thinking out loud here (4.00)
        Would this seem sufficiently transparent and non-exploitive to people?

        1. All receipts for supplies are photographed and posted (with credit card numbers fuzzed out, obviously), so the cost/proceeds ratio is public and trackable.
        2. All orders are kept in a public list with orderers' anonymity protected by only using initials, city, and state.
        3. Check written to Crawford Peace House (or some other charity to be determined by popular consensus) is photographed and posted (with account numbers fuzzed out).

        Am I overlooking anything?
        •  Sounds good... (4.00)
          ...of course, I'm also fine with the honor system.  But if you're willing to do all of that, I can't think of anything more you'd have to do.

          WRT recipients, I just looked at the Gold Star Families web site, and it says "Donate to the Crawford Peace House, Military Families Speak Out or GSFP" -- so I'd be happy with any of those three recipients.

          As long as the money doesn't go to the American Enterprise Institute, the Republican Party, etc. :)

        •  my 10% cut (none)
          for, you know, consulting and stuff

          Am I overlooking anything?

          /snark

  •  Yay! Glad you sound strong. (4.00)
    All these diaries flyin' around in here today about denial of water, threat of arrest -- glad to hear you sounding in good spirits and so deeply rooted in your mission.  This is some alchemy you are performing, Cindy.... turning grief into power.
  •  Catch the rainwater (4.00)
    from the thunderstorm in anything you can find.  Tell everyone to do it.  The water may have to last you awhile. As for Thursday, Bush is supposed to go by car to a fundraiser, so his vehicle may come close enough to where you are to be deemed a security threat.  The SS has to clear these things ahead of time.  

    Winning without Delay.

    by ljm on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:12:31 PM PDT

    •  Security threat???? (4.00)
      bushco is doing whatever they want!  If this turns into a stalemate, the rest of the public should have had their blinders removed...hopefully...

      "Free speech is not to be regulated like diseased cattle and impure butter." William O. Douglas.

      by Street Kid on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:17:37 PM PDT

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      •  If there's such a damn security threat (2.62)
        Bush can get his lazy, spoiled brat, "Now watch this drive" behind back to the Oval Office and (at least pretend to) work.  

        We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

        by JLFinch on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:54:57 PM PDT

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    •  Only by choice (none)
      They have a choice when they leave the ranch. As I've stated before, the driveway to the ranch is in a 90 degree turn of the county road, go straight or turn left. Either choice takes them to town (Crawford or Waco).

      "A man who chooses not to read, is just as ignorant as the man who cannot read."

      by TexDem on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 08:33:05 AM PDT

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  •  Where do I send a donation? (4.00)
         Hang in there Cindy.
    •  Hugs, Cindy (4.00)
       Crawford Peace House P.O. Box 710218 Dallas, Tx. 75371-0218
       Email can be sent to crawfordpeacehouse@yahoo.com
      I got this from the Gold Star Families for Peace website, www.gsfp.org .
      I called the young man at the Crawford Peace House and asked if I could make a small donation via bank wire, and he said it would be better just to mail it in. I guess PayPal isn't up yet.

      War is not an adventure. It is a disease. It is like typhus. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery

      by Margot on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:21:13 PM PDT

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    •  RE (none)
      Crawford Peace House P.O. Box 710218 Dallas, Tx. 75371-0218

      ... now watch this drive.

      by jg on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:21:56 PM PDT

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  •  I am in awe of you (4.00)
    The VERY LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS: Why do the right wing media so assiduously scrutinize the words of a grief filled mother and ignore the words of a lying president?

    Democracy demands discussion, disagreement and dissent. - Wes Clark

    by djinniya on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:16:41 PM PDT

  •  Hang tough, Cindy (4.00)
    I'm sending love and prayers your way.

    It's raining and thundering here in San Antonio. Reading your post and listening to the rumbling and patter outside makes me think of that great Willie Nelson song:

    Someday when we meet up yonder
    We'll stroll hand in hand again
    In the land that knows no parting
    For blue eyes crying in the rain.

    I hope you are safe and getting a little bit of shut-eye.

  •  I'm going to be presumptuous enough (4.00)
    to say that your son, your Casey, is smiling down at you.  

    Only the most denial-ridden, the most craven, would suggest that your protest is anything but honorable.  Why in the world would a grieving parent hazard this amount of aggravation unless it was to save other parents from living your horror?

    Cindy, you carry on your shoulders the stress, the grief, and the rage of millions of people.  Thank you.  Nothing more to say, but thank you...

    I've made it very clear, he was not involved, that there's no truth to the suggestion that he was.-McClellan, 2003

    by GN1927 on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:22:39 PM PDT

  •  The Coward in Crawford (3.82)
    Bush hid from his duty to serve in the 60's (and then lied about it) and he's hiding now.

    He is an arrogant, power-crazed, delusional dirt bag who has absolute contempt for all but his inner circle of elites.  He revels in the use of cheating and dirty tricks.

    To watch him speak - it looks like he thinks he's an action hero starring in his own blockbuster.  He is totally divorced from reality.

    Hang in there, Cindy.  You're doing great.

    We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

    by JLFinch on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:24:21 PM PDT

    •  The Coward of Crawford. (4.00)
      I like it.
      •  Trouble is, now he can't come out. (4.00)
        He'd look like a flip-flopper.

        This could easily turn into a debacle for Mr. Bush. You are doing the right thing, Cindy.
        And whenever in doubt, it's probably a wise thing to draw strength from the 1. Amendment:

        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

        "I don't do quagmires, and my boss doesn't do nuance."

        by SteinL on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:51:45 PM PDT

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        •  No, the reason he can never talk to Cindy (4.00)
          is because she has never drank one drop of Koolaid.  She is informed, articulate, intelligent and focused--all the things our prezdent is not.

          Remember how foolish Kerry made him look during the debates? Well there is a lot more information out now and Cindy is armed and dangerous with the truth.  A meeting between Cindy and Bush would be the debates to the 10th power.

          The Christian Right is neither Witness Every Day

          by TXsharon on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 03:58:54 AM PDT

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          •  Not hard to make him look stupid... (none)
            Just give him a pretzle and put him on a bike...Maybe she has a bag of pretzles with... hense the National Security angle...

            Funny it isn't National Security for just W but add Condi and Rummy and THEN it would be....

            I think they have it backwords...the National Security threat IS W and his croanies.

            "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -Martin Luther King, Jr. _______ "We will not be silent." -Howard Dean

            by jigsaw68 on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 12:01:52 PM PDT

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        •  Simpler than that (4.00)
          The reason he can't, or won't, come out has been accurately pointed out many times on this thread.  He is a coward.

          Furthermore, he lacks the capacity to explain himself in clear terms to someone with clear moral opposition to him.   He doesn't have the brains OR the cojones to meet with Cindy.

          The Republican Party: Redefining Oppression for the 21st Century

          by daveriegel on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:57:40 AM PDT

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          •  That's why all his "town hall meetings" (4.00)
            are staged.

            He can't take a chance that someone might yell out a legitimate question, because he'll only stutter and get the 'deer-in-the-headlights' look he's so famous for, being the slow-witted imbecilic weasel he is.

            His posse even make sure they discourage liberals from those stupid events by making them take a pledge or somesuch that swears they support dumbya. Those things couldn't be more staged.

            I like "Coward of Crawford" too, by the way... maybe that will catch on. Very clever :)

            "You're working hard to put food on your family." - George W. Bush

            by flashlass on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 09:12:11 AM PDT

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        •  He's not a flip flopper (none)
          He's just a flop.
      •  yes (4.00)
        The Crawford Coward.

        The Rovian Nazgul circling Washington are landing in Crawford and you have taken the fight to the front gate.  They are scared and they should be.  

        When you stand, you stand for us all, and I am grateful.  Bring the junta down.

    •  But, but, but... (none)
      He's so resolute about it...

      /shameless blog pimping.

      Most reforms, most problems are complicated. But to me there is nothing complicated about ordinary equality.-Alice Paul

      by boadicea on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 11:31:53 PM PDT

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    •  ChickenHawk Down! ChickenHawk Down! (4.00)
      ROGER!  WE HAVE A CHICKENHAWK DOWN!

      SURROUNDED BY INSURGENTS!  WHAT DO WE DO?

      OVER!!!!

      •  Fall back to plan "Back Door" (none)
        Plan "Back Door";

        I.) Call Gannon/Gurkett for "back up".
        II.) Get the Heli out here pronto
        III.) Manufacture a "Crysis" somewhere
        IV.) Jump in the Heli and scuttle back to D.C.
        V.) Have the Brave Resolute CIA/FBI/NSA/NASA/SEATO/etc. boys corner these "Diss-idents", declare the land private, arrest them, and fly them to a location not yet known (maybe Gitmo or Diego Garcia)
        VI.) Start war with Iran based on the "terrorist" attack at the Crawdaddy Turkey Farm.
        VII.) Reduce taxes for the richest (if at zero, start paying them).
        VIII.) Raise the national Debt ceiling by using your spineless GOP nuetered pupps.
        IX.) Fly into (well ride with a real pilot) an Air Base in North Dakota wearing a flight with several socks stuffed into the crotch (maybe get the fashion folks to revive Codpieces as modern must wear)
        X.) Declare VICTORY and Mission Good as things fall apart in the Mess-of-the-POTUS-amia part II (call it Iran, call it Persia, just another sandy place somewhere over there)

        Parts XI, XII, etc are to be "potential planning activities" done by Cutie Karl and his Con Artists.

        I seem to have lost my nation, I appear to have stepped through the Looking Glass into a "Homeland"

        by mdgluon on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 02:44:14 PM PDT

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  •  Militarytracy and Deepintheheartoftexas (4.00)
    will be there Wednesday!!
  •  Cindy I am so happy to see your update (4.00)
    as I was just getting ready to log off for the night.  You are in all of thoughts.  I have been reading endlessly tonight about your situation and trying to spread the word to all my friends and family.

    You are such an inspiration.  Your voice and your actions prove that one person can make a difference.  And that is not to discount those braves souls who are with you.  

    We have a right to know the truth.  You have a right to know why your son was in Iraq.  We have a right to demand accountability.

    My thoughts and prayers will be with you in the coming days.  And who knows?  If I can inspire my sister, we may be seeing you yet.

    Rest up tonight.  You are going to need it.

    •  Update from Scout! (4.00)
      Last night I mentioned that I would see about inspiring my sister for a road trip.

      This morning on my way to work, I received a call from her at 7:45am.  I picked up the phone and she said "What are you doing this weekend?  I think we need to take a roadtrip and go down to Texas to support this Cindy Sheehan woman I've been hearing about!"  

      Cindy, my sister is your very typical suburban mom.  She is so angry about this war and she feels so much pain for you and your loss that she called me with the idea to leave her kids in their Poppy's loving care for the weekend and come tell you in person how sorry we are for your loss and to show you that you are certainly not alone in this struggle for truth, justice and the American way.  

      I have one last work hurdle to clear, but these Kansas ladies intend to be standing with you on Friday.    

      Just keep posting about what supplies you need and we will deliver as much as we are able.

  •  Whatever you do Cindy, (4.00)
    ..don't freak out!  Stay calm and ON your original message.  You have thousands of folks watching this.

    Whenever you are in doubt, go back to what brought you there.  This is why we love you. Do whatever you need to do to survive.  We will fill your needs.  Do not give up.

    You are breaking the barrier that needed to be broken.  No matter what you need to do right now, you will go down in history as one who fought Fascism during a time when it was NOT popular to do so.

    Please know that your time in history HAS been assured, and that all of us (who are not able to be there right now) are rallying for you in a variety of methods (some of us are just too damn poor to get there).

    All my love Cindy,

    Gabriele

    "How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right." Black Hawk

    by Gabriele Droz on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:28:28 PM PDT

    •  one of my (4.00)
      favorite quotes is "The victors will be those who can the  most endure".  Bush can't take the heat you are radiating.  You have already had the worst thing happen to you that can possibly happen; there is no pain they can inflict that is worse than the loss of Casey.  There is nothing they can do to you now.

      Their position is backed only by lies and deception, you have the truth behind you.  And you have unimpeachable moral authority.  

      Like the mothers of the disappeared, your presence alone is an indictment of the corruption of the Bush administration.  You have already won.

    •  Thousands? (none)
      More like hundreds of thousands!
  •  You inspire and we salute you! (4.00)
    Was out with our Vets for Peace chapter yesterday at the Huntington Beach Arlington West memorial, and all talk was about your courageous stand.

    More than inspire, you empower.

    We'll be sending a donation and ideas are flying around the household now about how to do more.

  •  Thank you (4.00)
    You are my hero.
  •  Waves of protestors should be on hand (4.00)
    For arrest, if Cindy is arrested.

    The road has to be filled up with enough protestors so that the only arrest will have to be mass arrest.

    We support you a million percent.

    • Who made the threat to arrest?

    • How many protestors are there?

    • A Live Cam should be setup - like the Princeton Fillibusters had. Even if it's semi-live (someone records and uploads it from a remote location)

    • Call Jimmy Carter - he may help/join
  •  Cindy, we should be asking Bush to resign. (4.00)
    Instead of merely asking Bush to bring the troops home, we should be asking him to do the only honorable thing and resign.  This could be a Tiennamen Square-like event (in a good way).
    •  RESIGN -- IMPEACHMENT -- TREASON (4.00)
      I would love to see any of those three words appear in the next wave of news stories out of Camp Casey.  Cindy, you've got the bully pulpit right now.  The whole world is watching.  The media LOVES simple soundbites.  All you need is a really big sign or T-shirt or something, and the Associated Press or New York Times or CNN will start running with stories like "Crawford Protest Calls For President to Resign" or something similar.  I am in awe of the power that you have... please use it while you've got it!!
    •  Or more indirectly... (4.00)
      ... demand that someone take responsibility for the war.  No one has taken responsibility for this.  And it belongs at the top.  It belongs on Bush's head.  But if not him, then one of his subordinates has to go.
      •  Accountability to country and military (none)
        for the egregious wrong decisions made from the initial invasion with too small a force to the "bring it on" comment, to abu ghraib, to Haliburton's war profiteering. Why doesn't your lawyer use one of the draft impeachment petitions floating around the internet and you folks read it right as you're being arrested (I hope it doesn't come to that but the likelihood...) Godspeed, Cindy, the eyes of this military mom and hundreds of thousand more military families are with you as you make this journey.

        "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed." MLK

        by Moesse on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:16:12 AM PDT

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    •  This song comes to mind... (none)
      "Megalomaniac" Incubus
      (Most lyrics snipped)
      (Chorus)
      Hey megalomaniac
      You're no Jesus
      Yeah, you're no fucking Elvis
      Wash your hands clean on yourself, baby and
      Step down
      Step down
      Step down

      I don't know if they were thinking about Dubya when they wrote this but it certainly applies.

      However, I think Bush is so damn drunk on power that he'd never step down on his own, even if it is the right thing to do. No, it will take a fight to get him out of office.

      Keep on keepin' on. We who can't be by your side will at least be thinking good thoughts for you.

      Michelle aka MamasGun

      Spread the memes: Californians, vote NO Nov. 8th. Borrow-and-Binge Republicans.

      by MamasGun on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 12:51:36 PM PDT

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      •  How about " She's a Rebel" by Green Day? (none)
        She's a Rebel
        She's a saint
        She's the salt of the Earth
        and she's dangerous

        ( dangerous to the establishment that is)

        "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -Martin Luther King, Jr. _______ "We will not be silent." -Howard Dean

        by jigsaw68 on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 03:49:44 PM PDT

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  •  God Bless you Cindy (4.00)
    I wish I could be there with you and I wish you the best in your mission. George Bush is proving himself to be the coward we already knew he was. He is afraid to meet with you. He is a poor excuse for a commander in chief. He is a poor excuse for a president. He makes it clear again and again that he is not the president of all the people but rather only some of the people, his chosen few, the have-mores.

    He is a pitiful figure of a man.

    You are clearly far more woman than he is man.

    "We have the power. Sorry if you don't like the fact that we've decided to use it." Posted by Jeremey*in*MS at February 3, 2005 01:59 PM

    by Andrew C White on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:34:18 PM PDT

  •  I want to thank you, Cindy. (4.00)
    You are an inspiration and our hearts are with you.
  •  Some thoughts if they do arrest Cindy. (4.00)
    If it were me, I'd drag things out as long as possible. It would be tempting to have them arrest a lot of Gold Star mothers all at once on the first day. I would wait, though.  

    I would let Cindy be arrested the first day, then I would have as many other mothers of soldiers as I could find and who are willing to be arrested show up, one per day, for as long as there are mothers to be arrested, This provides a new news story every day.

    Day 1: Cindy Sheehan, grieving mother arrested.
    Day 2: Another grieving mother arrested.
    Day 3. Yet another grieving mother arrested.
    Day 4: Standoff continues, fourth grieving mother arrested.
    Day 5: Another grieving mother arrested. How many grieving mothers can Bush put in jail?
    Day 6: Standoff at Crawford: a CNN Special Report. "I'm Wolf Blitzer, welcome back to our continuing coverage..."

    Etc. I would probably also have only Cindy and other mothers of Iraq veterans be arrested. This keeps the focus off of the amorphous group that might otherwise be labeled "the protesters", and puts it on "mothers of Iraq veterans".

    In addition, if one mother is arrested per day alone, it gives the media an opportunity each day to focus on that one person's very personal story:

    Who is this mother?

    Who was her son or daughter that gave their life?

    Under what circumstances did the daughter or  son lose their life?

    What about the son's or daughter's family that are now left behind?

    What about the children that will never see their mom or dad again?

    I would also have each mother that is arrested on a given day be from a different area of the country than the previous day, if possible: Northeast, then Midwest, then South, then West, etc. This gives a regional focus to a given day's story, and allows regional and local coverage to get involved. It also gives the citizens of a particular region someone they can specifically identify with.

    (Repeat from an earlier post, but people seemed to agree, so here it is again.:)    

    •  I agree (4.00)
      She is not a "protester" or a "hippy" (as she even labels herself...

      she is a grieving mother who wants to know why her son died. What is the point of this war.

      I read the interview with the crawford paper and what stuck out was the comment "I did not give birth to, raise my son to die so that iraqis could vote"

      The legitimate reason for war - protecting our own loved ones from threat of death by agressors as voiced by Bush has proved to be a lie. and a baldfaced premeditated lie as DSM showed.

      so why did casey die?

      I would suggest that people not make this a bandwagon to jump on. That military families who support Cindy be the ones front and center, with only a minimum of supporters/observers.

      •  Thanks for saying these things. (4.00)
        Especially the part about the bandwagon.

        It would be a shame to find Camp Casey full of people who are all speaking out on their pet issues instead of or along with the real subject here (unless Ms. Sheehan wants that, of course)... not that other issues are not significant, but this is so important to have this be focused for the short period of time she has the spotlight... to have the most effect for the cause of the Gold Star families.

        Everyone showing up with their placards calling for every this and that always reduce the impact of a protest... most recently saw that happen in the photos of Mr. Conyers' march to the White House with his petition.

        Just an opinion from someone who works in advertising sometimes, because I believe these nuances matter and to repeat: This is so important!

        If you wish to flame me, now you can begin :-)

        •  No flames but huge kudos here (4.00)
          Highacidity,

          I don't think we can say enough times how fantastic it is that you and Ukiyo created DowningStreetMemo.com.  It is critically important and I believe historic.

          As Cindy stated above:
          "and most damaging and criminal: the Downing Street Memos."

          I know you are working on a second important entry in your website and I look forward to seeing it online.

          Also, people should be aware that DSM.com needs volunteers.  Anybody out there that is willing to lend a hand?  Highacidity, please name some of the tasks you need help with.  As I recall some are quite easy.  We need to keep working on bringing attention to DSM.com.

  •  New York Times Editorial, August 9 (4.00)
    hot off the press

    Mr. Bush obviously failed to comfort Ms. Sheehan when he met with her and her family. More important, he has not helped the nation give fallen soldiers like Casey Sheehan the honor they deserve. The administration seems reluctant to have the president take part in events that would direct widespread attention to soldiers' funerals or to the thousands who have returned with serious injuries.

    Perhaps most troubling, Mr. Bush is not leveling about where things stand with the war. He continues to stay on message, as he did with the platitude he offered last week: "We will stay the course; we will complete the job in Iraq." The public knows that things in Iraq are not going well on any number of levels, and deserves a fuller, more honest discussion led by the commander in chief.

    Just 38 percent of the respondents in a recent Associated Press-Ipsos poll, a new low, approved of Mr. Bush's handling of Iraq. That does not mean the remaining 62 percent agree with Ms. Sheehan that the troops should come home immediately. But it does mean that many Americans are with her, at least figuratively, at that dusty roadside in Crawford, expecting better answers.

    Democracy demands discussion, disagreement and dissent. - Wes Clark

    by djinniya on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:38:32 PM PDT

  •  You couldn't have said it any better. Thank you. (4.00)
    "The VERY LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS: Why do the right wing media so assiduously scrutinize the words of a grief filled mother and ignore the words of a lying president?"
  •  VFP 72 here (4.00)
    We will be starting daily demonstration in Portland supporting your efforts. Will call in to Thom Hartmann tomroow AM to spread the word.
    Love,
    Grant


    Sign the VFP online impeachment petition

    Flags don't kill people, governments do.
    Take back the flag, take back the government.

    by BOHICA on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:40:19 PM PDT

    •  Tomorrow! (none)
      Doh!

      Flags don't kill people, governments do.
      Take back the flag, take back the government.

      by BOHICA on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:41:58 PM PDT

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    •  which portland? (none)
      I live in Maine.
    •  I'm in Portland, OR (none)
      Is it on this coast?  Where and what time?    

      There is nothing noble about voting based on who Jesus tells you to hate. ~ JamesB3

      by CJB on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 09:09:55 AM PDT

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    •  BOHICA (none)
      Start playing up the Local Rallies, what Cindy Needs is for People Showing Support on the Streets!!

      I've put in a call to the National Offfice Requesting that VFP Members Start trying to Organize Local Events for these Well Intentioned, But Extremely Lost, People!!

      There are a number of things that can be done locally by one, two, or more people, including 'Camp Cassies' all over the country, even if just for a Saturday Night after Signing, whatever, on Saturday and Sunday!!

      Get Organized Folks, Not Everyone Can Be In Crawford, Cindy Needs MOMs there, Gold Star Moms, Military Moms, Moms not connected to the Military, Moms Who Love There Kids!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Others welcome but Cindy Has Crawford, Support Her Action Locally!!!!!!!!!!
      ******
      "History is littered with governments destabilized by masses of veterans who believed that they had been taken for fools by a society that grew rich and fat at the expense of their hardship and suffering."
      Former VA Secretary Principi

      *
      *****
      James Starowicz

      VFP 'Declaration Of Impeachment'

      Sign On and Pass Link To Others

      VFP Impeachment Petition

      USN '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In-Country'70-'71 COMNAVFORV

  •  Words of encouragement (4.00)
    "The mightiest oak was once a little nut that stood its ground."

    Don't know who said it, but it's on a paperweight someone gave me.

  •  Prayer Service (3.20)
    Cindy, have you considered holding a prayer service at Camp Casey?  I think it could be very powerful.

    We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

    by JLFinch on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:43:46 PM PDT

  •  Go Cindy Go (none)
    All of you are our rays of hope and our hearts and prayers are with you.

    Also, I'd recommend your diary but I can't figure out how to do that.

  •  I wish I had your couraqge (none)
    And I hope things go well for you there in Crawford, though I fear they won't.

    You are an inspiration to us all.

  •  So Bush can end his vacation (3.90)
    early and fly across the country to "save" Terri Schiavo, but he can't walk a few hundred feet down the road and talk to you?

    We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

    by JLFinch on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:46:25 PM PDT

  •  Is there no member of congress that will stand? (4.00)
    All you need is a single member of Congress to stand with you in Crawford.  They couldn't arrest a member of Congress.

    Is there not one elected represenative that the people can count on?

    Mrick

  •  Every day Cindy is there is (4.00)
    Mothers Day!

    I was going to take me and my two young kids down to Crawford from N. Calif., but we are worried that our "government" won't stop at anything to twist our country into the ground. I want to scream.

    Tomorrow I will start calling Barbara Boxer to see why she isn't there with you. Aren't they all on vacation? She and Congressman Conyers should be there with you.  

    Bush is the Terrorist. His administration are the war criminals.

    Bush will meet with a porn star, Mary Carey, but leaves a heroic mother out in a ditch.

    Go Cindy Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

    All men are created equal - some just stick out more.

    by Damnit Janet on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:49:03 PM PDT

  •  Ms. Sheehan.. (4.00)
    you are my hero. We are all in tremendous awe of your courage and perseverance. And, we are forever in your debt.

    "Truth often suffers more by the heat of its defenders than the arguments of its opposers." William Penn

    by jeeves on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:51:52 PM PDT

  •  Thread at DU on the 'swift-boating 'of Cindy (none)
    here
    Includes link to Stephen Elliot's Huffington Post blog, and to Raw Story's response to Drudge's junk.
  •  i thought about going (none)
    Yesterday I checked how many frequent flier miles I have and tried to think of a way to get down there.  Unfortnuately, my entire month of August got booked up something like a year ago.  Unlike the president, I work about 50 weeks a year, with only 2 weeks of vacation.  I already have several plane tickets to and home from a hospital in San Diego where I am committed to work this whole month, and the 8 hour travel time per way won't leave me time to get my tush to Crawford.
  •  It Seems Like... (none)
    ...everyone's prayers have been answered by this angel.
  •  Don't ask for words (4.00)
    I live in Japan and have been following your situation very closely.  I hope you get to meet the president, but I think you shouldn't ask for answers, you should ask him to get down on his hands and knees and beg for the forgiveness of all the families whose children have died.  If he doesn't, then he can be accused of not respecting the troops.

    This year, when the Japanese Railway (JR) train derailed and killed hundreds of people, the owners of the company met with the families of the victims at their homes and groveled before them, expressing the strongest apology possible.

    People can do what they want with words, but an image of Bush on all fours bowing his head in respect can not be misread.

    Keep up the good work.

    •  Unlike in the USA.... (4.00)
      ...there's a culture of corporate responsibility in Japan. If a CEO messes up and the company does poorly, he or she resigns and sincerely apologizes. In the US, the CEO gets a pay raise and a favorable profile in the Wall Street Journal. Same deal with Bush. He never ever admits mistakes and always blames others.
      •  Yeah, but.. (none)
        then it takes years (and years, and years, and years, and years....) before any legal action starts to move.  If they can buy off people quickly with a cash payment, they do it.  But once that offer is refused, the gloves start coming off.

        And it's even rarer for officials to get punished - yeah, they lose their board membership, but nothing else, pension, etc.

        And it they're a guvmint official, then they just step down and join a private company - at very good pay.

        "Every day, in every way, I think I'm going to vomit."

        by seronimous on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 11:39:44 PM PDT

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    •  i had the opportunity to visit japan last summer, (4.00)
      and I'm afraid to say that our American culture simply does not have the same degree of respect for honor, and decency as the Japanese culture has.  

      In America wisdom is not a virtue, rather, unquestionable lemming-like ignorance is the only trait that will suffice.  

      My visit to Japan was an eye opening experience, even at the a-bomb peace park, in Hiroshima, I was treated with the most incredible kindness that I have ever experienced, all coming from strangers who obviously knew that i was from America.

      I talked with several people in the park who were living in Hiroshima at the time of the bombing and they weren't resentful at all of my nationality (even though I'm not really American, I'm from Venezuela.)  

      I could not, and still don't, understand why when hundreds of thousands of people were incinerated instantly, and millions harmed for rest of their lives, the Japanese chose to understand that I wasn't a part of it, and when 3k people were murdered because our government didn't intervene, we went on an unholy crusade and began bombing, torturing, raping, killing and destroying the innocent.

      Where did we go wrong?

      I believe in morality, I believe in a higher being, but I can not imagine that this being would ever condone, or endorse of the actions of America.  

      Our first step towards regaining our morality is to face them fact that we have sinned, we have clearly gone against the teachings of EVERY religion, and if I am disappointed, then I'm that our god has to be furious.

      The Bill of Rights, not the Ten Commandments, should be on our buildings

      by chinkoPelinke on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 12:20:23 AM PDT

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      •  The Japanese (none)
        We were stationed in Hawaii on 9/11 and of course the months following, they took a hit in tourism. Mainly because the Japanese economy was hurting but also because the Japanese thought it disrespectful to come to the US and vacation in our time of grief. I wish our MSM would learn a thing or two from the Japanese on things like that.

        Being a patriot means you have to do more than wave a flag!

        by melthewriter on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 07:44:00 AM PDT

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    •  A sense of honor and shame (none)
      is missing in the Bush family.
  •  You have captured our hearts... (none)
    ...and the spirit of a movement that cannot now be stopped.  

    I would urge everyone who is getting involved to stay organized and very smart.  Remember how the Orange revolution in the Ukraine stayed the course in the middle of the winter.  Thousands of protesters in Keiv stood their ground, but it was peaceful, organized, and self sustaining.  

    Earlier I sent the local Dem Rep Chet Edwards an email urging him to get involved.  I would urge everyone to do the same, or find another local celeb or national broker to use as a mouth piece to focus political, and media attention.

    DC Address: The Honorable Chet Edwards
    United States House of Representatives
    2264 Rayburn House Office Building
    Washington, D.C. 20515-4317
    DC Phone: 202-225-6105
    DC Fax: 202-225-0350
    Email Address:

    WWW Homepage:

  •  Stay strong, stay safe Cindy! (4.00)
    Thanks for doing this. You have done more to raise awareness about the stupidity of this war than 2 years of hidden caskets!
  •  Blue Sky Lightning (none)
    Keep a close tab on weather forecasts.

    Lightning can strike you even if the sky is blue--the storm only has to be within earshot.

    Take good care.

    I don't mind if you decide not to get arrested but if instead you take your mission to everyone in the Administration who is responsible.

    Cheney next?

    Lord knows, they all deserve to face your questioning.

  •  Ms. Sheehan, you are amazing. (4.00)
    I know your efforts and your courage will help end this war -- and then so many other soldiers will not have to go to Iraq.  So many others will be alive.

    I think slowly the country is beginning to understand the debt of gratitude owed not only to your son Casey for his bravery (I know, Iraq was a lie, but Casey's bravery was real), but to you and the other Gold Star families for standing up and trying to prevent other families from experiencing your suffering.

    Thank you for being such an inspiration, and for reminding us in these dark, ugly days that there is hope -- America can't be completely lost when it has people like you.  You are truly amazing.

    -- Karen

  •  Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo (4.00)
    Cindy's stand reminds me of the protests in Argentina during the "Dirty War" 25 years ago.  In 1977, four mothers came to stand in the Plaza de Mayo to protest the kidnapping and murder of their children by the military dictatorship.  It took several years, but they eventually brought down the regime.  They were unstoppable because they were in public and they were mothers.
  •  Maj. Alan Rowe, USMC (4.00)
    KIA 9/3/04, Al Anbar Province.

    I've worn a bracelet with his name since last November. We never met.

    You honor him as you honor your son, Casey.

    "...psychopaths have little difficulty infiltrating the domains of...politics, law enforcement, (and) government." Dr. Robert Hare

    by RubDMC on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 10:54:27 PM PDT

  •  yes ,"a men" { SO BE IT } !!! (none)
    GODS speed,prayers please everyone, history will prove this much much more important than we could ever think right now. past history proves this { winter patriot}. a men. peace
  •  Good question! (none)
    "The VERY LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS: Why do the right wing media so assiduously scrutinize the words of a grief filled mother and ignore the words of a lying president?"

    Damn right! I'd love to hear the answer to that myself.

  •  forget the right wing media (4.00)
    Cindy, do not worry what's behind those twinkling, tired eyes about the dispicable behaviors of those at the Drudge Report, Fox News and the misguided like. They are fighting their own battle with their own denials. A battalion is forming behind you, one full of people who profoundly believe in what you are doing and ready to support you in any way that we can.

    For me to second-guess and scrutinize your intentions and words, would be for me to presume that I know what it is like to experience your losses. I pity those who feel the need to question your integrity and sincerity to hide their own lacking of such. The truth of the last several years in this country's history is a bitter pill to swallow. However, it is a necessary one if we hope to heal, and in time, restore the dream we all once shared.

    I imagine that this dream will never be the same for you. From the bottom of my stinging heart, thank you for caring about the kids that I will one day bring into this world and the future that we will bestow upon them, with the same loving kindness that I am sure you showed your own.

    Stay strong and I hope you get a few nice sunsets out on that plot of grass by the most important little campsite in America. Take care.

    We're gonna rise from these ashes like a bird aflame...

    by August West on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 11:38:38 PM PDT

  •  I will say a prayer for you tonight Cindy... (4.00)
    ...even if I am an atheist.

    Dailykos.com; an oasis of truth.

    by Shockwave on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 11:45:06 PM PDT

  •  We are all with you. (4.00)
    Cindy, do not give up hope, and do not give in.  We are all counting on you.

    If I may indulge you with some personal info:  I lost my mother seven years ago, to cancer.  She was far too young to be taken from this earth.   But when I see you fighting valiantly, and sacrificing every minute of your day, I see the spirit of those that have gone before us, prematurely, and I dig down deep inside myself and try to find the courage to go on another day and fight, because that is all that I can do.  

    Do not ever succumb to the false premise that your actions have no consequence;  you have touched people far and wide, around this great country, and around the world.

    My mother raised me to believe in peace, and to oppose hatred and aggression in all its forms.  And I thank you, and bless you, with all my heart, for standing up for those beliefs.

    In this time of need, you are truly the voice of the powerless:  the motherless children, and the mothers that have faced the incomprehensible, the loss of their children to a pointless and unnecessary war.

    Sincerely,

    Jeffrey T. Copas
    Austin, TX

    When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis

    by jtc on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 11:45:31 PM PDT

  •  not ONE F-ing word on Faux (none)
    It's day 4 and as of right now their website has not even a hint of this story. Could it be an innocent oversight?

    I mean, sure, if I was a fair and balanced journalist, I, too may think that stories like this and this deserve front page exposure but Cindy's protest on the issues of American deaths, War and Peace doesn't quite rise up to the challenge...

    Political violence is a perfectly legitimate answer to the persecution handed down by dignitaries of the state. - Riven Turnbull

    by Florida Democrat on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 11:45:43 PM PDT

  •  Good CNN article on Cindy (none)
    CNN.com - Soldier's mom digs in near Bush ranch - Aug 7, 2005

    Even a GOP Senator wants Cindy to meet Bush!

  •  RAY TALIAFERRO TALKING ABOUT CINDY SHEEHAN (4.00)
    http://www.kgoam810.com/listenlive.asp

    Right now.

    His question.

    "Who do you think Bush will arrest first, Osama Bin Laden, or Cindy Sheehan".

    He's on 1-5 AM PST every M-F and is a fiery liberal. Here's his website (not updated): http://raytal.com/home.html

    TALK LINE

    415-808-0810

  •  IF YOU CAN'T GO TO CRAWFORD -Cross Post (4.00)
    Start today, planning a Local Action at some busy Street Corner in your Area!!

    Go it alone if you have too, others will follow and join in!!

    But make plans for this Weekend, a Few Hours on Saturday or Sunday or Both!!

    Make contact with Local Media about Where and When!!

    Even an Evening Candlelite Vigil Works!!

    If a member of a Local Activists Group Plan with them, if Not Contact One and ask them to join you they know the Needs!!

    Call Family and Friends!!

    Plan Actions for as Long as Cindy or Others are Encamped at Crawford, each weekend, or Daily Rushhour!!

    I'm off to work in a few, so if Someone can Post Up A Diary on this Others can Post In Needed Information for their Area's Action!!

    Active Activists Will Know The Drill, But This Could Help Cindy As Much As Being There!!
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    •  dude, lay off the bold format (none)
      when you boldface one line, that line is highlighted

      when you boldface EVERY line, you're just wasting your time

      sorry,nothing personal,  I'm a graphic designer, and your post assaulted my eyes

  •  Here's to you guys... wish I could be there. (4.00)


    "I'm going to take this left foot and stick it right up your rhetorical ass and there's not a damn thing you're going to be able to do about it..."

    One Black Gold Coward (The Legend of Cindy Jack)

    Listen people to a story that continues to unfold,
    `Bout a kingdom based in Crawford and the lies its leader told.
    He fled to Crawford under pressure with buried head would not atone,
    For the noble people whored, to call the oil, his very own.

    Tell `em that you love your neighbor, go ahead and cheat; defend.
    Do it in the name of W, crucify and never bend,
    There won't be any barrels flowin' come the rapture day
    On the oily morning after... one black gold coward whines and prays.

    The noble victims called for rallies, and sent a message that was shrill,
    Asking why their buried treasure; sons and daughters, needless killed.
    Came an answer, not the leader, " Thank you for your children rare,
    Keeping freedoms of this kingdom, and all the riches, over there."

    The noble victims faced the danger, parked their horses, refrained from swords,
    And they milled round Crawford leader, proved they wouldn't just get bored.
    Now they stood inside with pleasure in the compound, dark, unfed.
    Would Bush atone, no he's above it, "I owe you," was all he said...

    Dudehisattva... "Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"

    by Dood Abides on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 02:15:29 AM PDT

  •  You Speak for all of Us (none)
    Cindy.Everyone here and at Booman Tribune supports your being at the front gates to Hell. Each day you are there Bush looks like a bigger idiot than he already is.(WOW is that possible?). Someone upthread made an outstanding point about Bush interupting his last vacation to sign the bill about Shiavo. Make that a focus Cindy. It will play well with the media and then they have all that footage they can run. Just know that my heart aches that I cannot be there with you as a Mom of an ex Navy kid. Stay strong...help is on the way.

    The more understanding one posesses, the less there is to say and the more there is to do.

    by Alohaleezy on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 02:34:05 AM PDT

  •  Cindy Sheehan info updated on Dkosopedia (4.00)
    I have a created a page with information on Cindy Sheehan at dKosopedia.

    I have also included links to diaries by her and about her trip to Crawford, TX.

    See http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Cindy_Sheehan

    It would be really appreciated if you would add anything you wish (registration is free at dKosopedia) or edit it or correct it whatever.

    There wasn't a page before yesterday and I think this hero deserves one.

    PLEASE edit it. Free registration, so simple. Then click Edit this Page.

    THANKS.

  •  Camp Casey Video (none)
    http://www.kcentv.com/video/8-8/mon/protest.wmv

    Enjoy. Darn brave Soldier. Joins a war protest a short walk away from his commander-in-chief. Cindy Rocks!

  •  Thank you, Cindy (none)
    www.gffp.org - just heard you plug this on Morning Sedition - I'm going there now. With tears in my eyes, but hope in my heart: thank you, thank you.
  •  OOOPS! (none)
    I must have heard wrong... www. gSfp.org... :-)
  •  on cspan call in show now (none)
    the question is should Bush meet with Cindy

    "War is a racket" Major General Smedley Butler, 1935

    by sydluna on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:24:22 AM PDT

  •  Two thoughts/frames/analogies from the thread (4.00)
    bunched together: 1.) If you are in fact arrested (again, I sincerely hope not but I understand you'll do it for the cause), it means they're capable of capturing one such as yourself, who's only threat to the nation is speaking the truth and asking for accountability, but not Osama Bin Laden. 2.) He has time to dine with strippers, fly off the ranch for ideology (Terry Schiavo bill), sign the energy bill in New Mexico, but not the time to meet with and honor your grief and your son's "noble cause"?

    "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed." MLK

    by Moesse on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:33:45 AM PDT

  •  Freeway blogging (4.00)
    This seems like a perfect time for freeway blogging.... imagine huge cardboard signs on overpasses   "Hey Bush,  Talked to CINDY yet?"

    I can't find the link to the freeway blogger diary.  Does anyone have it handy?

    GO Cindy GO!!!

  •  NEW - on ABC's GMA starting @ 7:14a (ET) (4.00)
    Excellent interview, Cindy!  Even though Charlie was trying to goad you into saying something negative about other parents who've lost loved ones, your message was clear, resolute and from the heart.  Your story is one that comes from the soul, and no amount of corporate news office shenanigans can water it down.

    Of course, in true morning newsatainment fashion, GMA immediately followed up Cindy's live interview from Crawford with a taped "press conference" by the mom of the missing girl in Aruba.

    (Silly me.  I thought they might try to regrow a modicum of character in the aftermath of Peter Jennings' demise.)

    "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." --Thomas Jefferson

    by frisco on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:51:59 AM PDT

  •  nightly news... (4.00)
    i didn't see anything about cindy on last nite's news. keep up the fight, keep up the talk, the media cannot ignore this forever. i'm with you in spirit. and remember this:

    W = Wrong about WMD
    W = Wrong when he said 'mission accomplished'
    W = Wrong when he said 'bring em on'
    W = Wrong about Social Security
    W = Wrong about Stem Cell Research
    W = Wrong as he hides from Cindy

    Keep Religion in Church

    by titotitotito on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:55:27 AM PDT

  •  fight on!! (none)
    You are amazing.  You are making your son proud.

    with all love....

    PA Progressives.

  •  I just read this in the NYT (4.00)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/09/opinion/09tue1.html?

    Summertime often produces unexpected media figures, and this is Cindy Sheehan's season. Ms. Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq last year, is camping out near President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Tex., and says she won't leave until Mr. Bush agrees to meet with her to discuss the war. There are many reasons for the flood of media attention she is attracting: she has a poignant personal story and she is articulate - and, let's face it, August is a slow news month. But most of all, she is tapping into a growing popular feeling that the Bush administration is out of touch with the realities, and the costs, of the Iraq war.

  •  What I don't understand is this.......... (none)
    I've been reading that when people go back for water and stuff the sheriff and deputies are preventing people from going back to the protest site.  Is that legal?  How can they prevent people from traveling along public thoroughfares?  How can they do that?  Can anyone explain this to those of us that do not understand these matters?  Or Texas law for that matter.
  •  My own mom is a Blue Star Mother (4.00)

    She's attended a lot of funerals for other people's children.

    Watching people buried by lies makes her angry, but she goes anyway, and does the President's job for him.

    Wilbur from Charlotte's Web turned out okay, and he was just some pig. :)

    by cskendrick on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 05:33:14 AM PDT

  •  What we are hearing (4.00)
    Have you ever heard the sound of a mother screaming for her son?
    The torrential rains of a mother's weeping will never be done
    They call him a hero, you should be glad that he's one, but
    Have you ever heard the sound of a mother screaming for her son?

    Have you ever heard the sound of a father holding back his cries?
    He must be brave because his boy died for another man's lies
    The only grief he allows himself are long, deep sighs
    Have you ever heard the sound of a father holding back his cries?

    Have you ever heard the sound of taps played at your brother's grave?
    They say that he died so that the flag will continue to wave
    But I believe he died because they had oil to save
    Have you ever heard the sound of taps played at your brother's grave?

    Have you ever heard the sound of a nation being rocked to sleep?
    The leaders want to keep you numb so the pain won't be so deep
    But if we the people let them continue another mother will weep
    Have you ever heard the sound of a nation being rocked to sleep?


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    Flags don't kill people, governments do.
    Take back the flag, take back the government.

    by BOHICA on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 05:35:32 AM PDT

  •  Cindy's Story on Washington Journal (none)
    They were taking calls from many folks in support of and a few IDIOTS who oppose what she's doing...Good for you, Cindy...Wish I lived near TX but you keep doing what you're doing because you're RIGHT.
  •  MSNBC Removed Their Story Too (4.00)
    I know I read about Cindy on MSNBC yesterday morning, but then I couldn't find it again yesterday afternoon. I searched and searched, but I couldn't find hide nor hair. What's going on with NBC?

    Anyways, keep fighting the good fight and the media will follow.

    To play, to act, is to create at least a possibility of changing the world. -Howard Zinn

    by Jawis on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 05:43:52 AM PDT

  •  GREAT ONE! (none)
    Thank you.  If I weren't working for the first time in quite a while, I would be there with you.
  •  Hey, ePluribusMedia types (none)
    During and after the Republican National Convention in NYC, you used your sleuthing to determine whether the holding pens for protesters were public or private property. Maybe you could help figure out the ownership of the land along the roads in Crawford, especially where Cindy and her intrepid band are camping?

    I suppose that people near Crawford could also visit a local government office and study the deeds or other documents?

    My personal sleuthing skills are mostly used up after determining that Crawford is in McLennan County, the county offices are in Waco, and here's the county website:

    http://www.co.mclennan.tx.us/

    I'll try to figure out how to send an e-mail directly to ePluribus Media.

    "There's more than one answer to these questions, pointing me in a crooked line" - Indigo Girls

    by AlanF on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 05:48:37 AM PDT

  •  CINDY SHEEHAN'S VISIT TO CRAWFORD (4.00)
    Cindy, please be reassured that those of us who cannot be there with you, support you wholeheartedly, and we will be observing whatever takes place.  This arrogance and ignorance of this regime must stop now.  Take care and watch your back.
  •  Cindy's the lead editorial in the NYT (none)
    Wow!

    Read it here.

    It is better to die standing than to live on your knees. - Emiliano Zapata

    by cotterperson on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 06:08:43 AM PDT

  •  What happened in the conversation with Bush? (none)
    I can't find any info on it anywhere.
  •  Stay the course, Cindy- (none)
    God bless you!!!
  •  Stand Firm (none)
    Wow, the NYT of all papers is supporting cindy and calls her articulate. A good message says a lot. Just the facts say it all. You go girl. And bush had the audacity to call her Mom, how dare he.
  •  Ms. Sheehan, you are amazing! (4.00)
    Sending you good vibes/wishes/karma/prayers!

    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

    by ilona on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 06:49:56 AM PDT

  •  Cindy.... (4.00)
    You are smart, brave and articulate.  They are messing with the wrong woman.

    Hang in there.

    Any party that would lie to start a war would also steal an election.

    by landrew on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 06:55:31 AM PDT

  •  Today's LTE - feedback please (4.00)
    A Nation Held Hostage

    I was in Crawford, Texas this past weekend with Cindy Sheehan the mother of Casey Sheehan who was killed in Sadr City in April 2004.  Cindy is requesting a meeting with the president to ask him a few questions.  A phone call from a "Security Official" warned her that on Thursday she will be arrested as a threat to national security.

    Saturday I spoke with a rancher and long-time Crawford resident who is sympathetic to Cindy's cause.  I asked him if he would allow her to put up the tent that I loaned her on his property.  He said he would love to help but he feared that he would be declared a national security threat and that his land would be seized under eminent domain.

    We are a nation held hostage by our president!

    The Christian Right is neither Witness Every Day

    by TXsharon on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 07:13:13 AM PDT

  •  Dear Cindy (4.00)
    Please hang in there.  There are many Hispanic American mothers whose children have also died, but feel that they can do nothing about this war and assault on their children.  Recruiters have gone after them with promises of money for college and a better life.  Young people are by nature hopeful, mothers know it could be their child coming home in a body bag. That is why Jenna and Barbara didn't go, that's why GWB as well as Cheney and all the war mongers who started this war didn't go to Viet Nam.  I remember the " peace with honor" statement from Nixon. Later we came back from that fiasco with our heads hanging low in failure.   "Dying for a noble cause" is along the same lines and just as deadly.  I support your challenge to the President for using your son's death as a reason for more killing. The nation is captured by your courage.  Stay strong in the knowledge that the nation stand behind you in this confrontation against this heartless man.  Thank you for the Hispanic American children as well as all the other children whose lives you are trying to save.  To a mother, her son or daughter is her child and is not cannon fodder.
    I am following your story and I consider you a giant. No one is really stronger than a mother.
    •  Peace with honor is a circular argument! (none)
      "We must keep fighting so that Cindy's son did not die in vain" is the argument that we all keep hearing.  Cindy is showing just how useless that argument is.  Keep fighting?  For how long?  1,2,3, what are we fighting for?  WMD? Democaracy? Mushroom cloud prevention?  Haliburton?  Exxon?
      Cindy, you were wonderful this morning on GMA.  I do think that the Peter Jennings story caused the cancellations yesterday.  I will be surprised if this story does not pick up some more steam.  ABC is doing a 2 hour special tonight, but I cannot imagine any more Jennings coverage on all the others.  I think Jennings would be covering this big time.
      Good luck Cindy.  You are doing a wonderful job.  I hope some of the Koolaide drinkers with their special kids NOT serving will wake up.  If they can't be bothered to send their kids to this war, then why should they question your motives.
      Cindy, you are fighting my fight.  My boys (twins) are approaching the military draft age.  If this nonsense continues, there will have to be a draft, no matter how much the leaders deny it.  We must get out.  The Muslim world is not about to let the West control their oil.  Period.  Not now, not in 1 year, or 2 years, or 10 years.
      Thank you Cindy.  Thank you. Thank you.
  •  Aggie Sends His Best! (4.00)
    Keep up the good fight Cindy.  I went to A&M (about an hour and a half drive from Crawford) and know the attitude in the area rather well.  Having worked for the DCCC on Chet Edwards' race last year, I'm pretty confident he won't come out publicly because it is such a competitive district.  He depends on a lot of Republican support to keep that seat, but trust me, is still an effective member of Congress and a good Democrat.

    I'd suggest people contacting other Texas Democrats who might be more willing to publicly come out and show support.  Try Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Houston), Lloyd Doggett (D-Austin) or Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Dallas).  They tend to be the more progressive members of Congress from Texas.  Just a suggestion.

    My brother is finishing up in the Corps of Cadets at A&M and has already signed a commission to become a Marine after he graduates.  I hope that your efforts will help us end the war and keep my brother, and every American soldier, safe from harm.

    •  This is not a Right or Left issue (none)
      This is a right or wrong issue. Sorry but if he cannot come out and say something if he means it due to fear... he is never going to be effective. Politicians are only noisey when it is popular... well they need to understand that the majority feels this way... so it IS popular. But they need to be ready to stand for something even if it is not popular to do so.  

      He needs to speak up...they are all hiding.

      "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -Martin Luther King, Jr. _______ "We will not be silent." -Howard Dean

      by jigsaw68 on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:19:36 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Cindy Sheehan-- A Real Profile in Courage (none)
    Cindy Sheehan-- a real profile in courage.
    George W. Bush-- a profile of a traitor-coddling coward.
  •  Hang in there Cindy (4.00)
    My heart aches and my eyes tear at the thought that a single person that has endured the loss that you have has more credibility...honesty...and guts to say what needs to be said.. than everyone of our elected officials in this country.

    You deserve every bit of respect you are getting from the people...and deserve respect from those who know what needs to be done but refuse to bring the troops home.

    I am in awe of your courage and am only sorry that you and others have had to suffer the loss you have because elected officials cannot say they were wrong and that this war was a mistake.

    My God what cowards we have in government... on both sides.

    Please know that we are all with you in our hearts and for those of us who cannot be there with you... we are doing what we can to support you.

    I only hope that it is enough

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -Martin Luther King, Jr. _______ "We will not be silent." -Howard Dean

    by jigsaw68 on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 08:21:11 AM PDT

  •  Arrest on Thursday (none)
     I am listening to Cindy on Air America and she is saying again that she may be arrested.
    I thought this was just a rumor.
    I fear if they arrest her it will be the beginning of the end for this administration.
    •  Do not fear (4.00)
      the beginning of the end of this administration... embrace it. It is about time. LOL

      "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -Martin Luther King, Jr. _______ "We will not be silent." -Howard Dean

      by jigsaw68 on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 08:46:58 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Hooray! (none)
    We (heart) Cindy!
    We (heart) Cindy!
    We (heart) Cindy!

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    Steal what you like.

    by Senor Pez on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 08:51:19 AM PDT

  •  CINDY SHEEHAN IS ON THOM HARTMANN *LIVE* (none)
    LIVE
  •  Cindy: "I don't even know why they're pulling (none)
    Cindy: "I don't even know why they're pulling these stuns on us, cause we're not leaving."

    Thom Hartmann: "Cindy, you're one of my heroes".

    Cindy: "Enough is enough, I can't take this anymore. You know what, they're gonna have to carry me to the squad car, and I hope there's a lot of media there. Never accuse this president and his administration o fhaving any brains or compassion")

    THIS IS ALL WHAT I CAN REMEMBER..NOT EXACT WORDS

  •  Cindy's phone is breaking up on Thom hartmann (none)
    On Thom Hartmann's show
  •  Tried your site but it was too busy (3.75)
    Dear Cindy,

    There is one thing I can't get out of my mind:

    The war on Iraq is illegal. Kofi Annan said so September of 2004.

    The war on Iraq is unconstitutional. Congress did not declare war.

    The war on Iraq was not made legal by any argument since its inception. There were no WMD, there was no connection 911, and it has not brought democracy or stability to Iraq... it has incited civil war, caused the death of more than 1,800 Americans and 128,000 Iraqi civilians, and has strengthened the cause of terrorism... which Kofi Annan says comes from despair.

    Many Americans are in despair that Bush is in office illegally and is conducting an illegal war through illegal means and financing his ambition with innocent lives. Staying the course in an illegal war is staying an illegal course.

    This is not a "noble cause" this is a crime... an international crime.... and a national crime.

    I agree with you wholeheartedly. Bush's argument that soldiers like your son died for a "noble cause" is abhorrent. And your action in confronting Bush is entirely appropriate. You stay the course, Cindy, because yours is the right one.

    Thank you for all you are doing for all of us.

    Ron Suskind is a great writer. I am not him, nor am I one of them.

    by suskind on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 09:25:39 AM PDT

  •  Call to action supporting Cindy on Moveon (4.00)
    We need to mobilize!  The Rove Administration wants her out and is setting the machinery in motion.  The complicity of the media--most notably GE owned NBC (Fox News is a slam dunk)will tacitly support this regime by not covering it.

    We must urge the media to inspect the efforts of the Rove Rogues to trample our constitutional rights.

    Send emails to:

    Robert Wright -Chairman & CEO of NBC Universal robert.wright@nbcuni.com

    Neal Shapiro - President NBC News neal.shapiro@msnbc.com

    Ramon Escobar -MSNBC News Vice President ramon.escobar@msnbc.com

    Nina Bradley -MSNBC Programming Director nina.bradley@msnbc.com

    Kathleen Lorenzo - GE - NBC Corporate Contact kathleen.lorenzo@corporate.ge.com

    Keith Olberman "Last Mohican" at Countdown KOlberman@msnbc.com

    connected@msnbc.com

    countdown@msnbc.com

    hardball@msnbc.com

    today@nbc.com

    nightly@nbc.com

    •  Emailed All Of Them (none)
      All of us should email them. Don't assume someone else will, or enough people will anyways. Send your email to them. It doesn't need to be long. Just say how disappointed you are in their lack of coverage of this and that you really feel that they should let the public know that this is going on especially since a large majority of Americans disagree with Bush's handling of Iraq.

      I'll make it even easier for you. Here are the addresses parsed with semi-colons ready for copying and pasting into the "To:" field. We must get this out!

      robert.wright@nbcuni.com; neal.shapiro@msnbc.com; ramon.escobar@msnbc.com; nina.bradley@msnbc.com; kathleen.lorenzo@corporate.ge.com; KOlberman@msnbc.com;connected@msnbc.com; countdown@msnbc.com; hardball@msnbc.com; today@nbc.com; nightly@nbc.com

      FYI: Neal Shapiro bounced back.

      To play, to act, is to create at least a possibility of changing the world. -Howard Zinn

      by Jawis on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 09:56:52 AM PDT

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      •  How about spanish language outlets> (none)
        I would think that Cindy's story would resonate with many viewers/listeners.  Surely Univision and Telemundo covered the Mothers of the Disappeared in Argentina and similar protests elsewhere in Latin America that Cindy would look familiar to their viwers now.

        Just an idea.

  •  Don't Give Up (4.00)
    Keep up the good fight Cindy. I am up here in Canada and unable to be there with you in person but I am there in spirit. My prayers are with you. You are a true icon and despite what the right-wingnuts have to say, I am sure your son is looking down with great pride on his wonderful mother who is not only fighting for his memory but those memories of other mothers who have lost a loved one in this illegal occupation, and trying to save the lives of those there now.
  •  Yaaay (none)
    I was on my way to Minnesota, and saw you featured in USA Today's Friday Paper, I screeched in the car and we almost ran off the road. You are so brave and so strong. One woman standing up against the machine for us all!

    I also listened to you on Tony's show and Thom Hartmanns show.

    We are going to do this. History will see them as it sees all evil.

  •  I offer my services FOR FREE..... (4.00)
    ... If you get arrested, Cindy.  I am a criminal defense attorney from San Antonio, Texas and I am willing to use all of my skills to defend you should be charged with a criminal offense.  I think that you may be charged with criminal trespass, interfering with public duties, resisting arrest, and (most egregiously) assault on a public servant, a felony.  All of the charges will be bogus, except for the criminal trespass, which will have some validity to it unless your property lawyer succeeds.  Even if they charge youwith trespass, there will likely be some way around it.  Let me know if you need me.  My name is Patton Zarate and I can be reached at (800) 672-2750.
  •  WOMAN ON THOM HARTMANN'S SHOW: (none)
    A woman called her local NBC affiliate: They said they had gotten a LOT of calls and are sending people out to interviewher..cameras, etc.

    PLEASE CALL YOUR LOCAL NBC AFFILIATE.

  •  CALLER ON HARTMANN'S SHOW (none)
    Says that he thinks it would be easy for the Bush Crime Family to be screwing with her cell phone reception - jamming it.

    Thom Hartmann (VERY RATIONAL PERSON, AMAZING HOST) agreed.

    BTW, THOM HARTMANN will be filling in for RANDI RHODES on AIR AMERICA RADIO today...she is out sick.

  •  Zarate.... (none)
    You go!  If  you need a paralegal at your side, I'm here for ya!!!
  •  Cindy's Freedom of speech... (none)
    ...is ours.

    Freedom of assembly.

    When do we occupy Washington?????????

    A failed President= August 6 PDB, Bin Laden? DSM, WMD's? Abu Ghraib, Rove/Plame

    by Gator on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 10:08:08 AM PDT

  •  Right on (none)
    We're all behind you Cindy (that is, ex-pats here in Germany who are following the story).

    Solidarity through and through.

    With you in mind and spirit.

  •  Christ, guys, what's with the hatin'? (none)
    If I were Cindy, seeing all this in the comments on her post would depress me.

    Stop with the hating, quit the disrespecting of Cindy by polluting her thread.

  •  Cindy (none)
    When writing letters to Congress, people often don't know what to say or procrastinate because of the task of writing.

    If you were to write a sample form letter to send to Congress detailing the grievances of the protest and the demands, many more people would write in to Congress and the message would be a lot more clear.

    This is very common practice these days. I hope you'll take the time to make your message's effectiveness multiply.

  •  Keep the focus on the focus (4.00)
    I am new here so please pardon my amateur status, but I do feel compelled to make a brief remark. I am not sure if insider blog-squabling over the "tip-jar" is 1.) appropriate in Cindy's diary; and 2.)relevant in the big picture.

    I clicked on this thread because I was interested in seeing how the kossacks were planning to further support Cindy and her incredible cause. Her son is dead. She may face jail-time. She is being stone-walled by W. And Swift-boated by the right. In think we owe her and her cause---any by extension OUR entire cause--more than side-line bickering. I have been reading your posts regularly and with regular admiration. I love this place. And it is clear that the kossacks are made up of incredibly compassionate and intelligent people. Perhaps we can get back to what is truly important instead of taking our eyes off the proverbial ball. Now back to Crawford!

  •  never mind... I'm a moron (none)
    Yeah, so the "tip jar" business was yesterday's news. Did I mention I was new around here? I guess things are little behind in Idaho. Or maybe I am just slow on the uptake. Or both. I'll pay closer attention before I post another comment. My bad.

    Face red and blushing....

  •  THIS WAS JUST POSTED ON DU (4.00)
    This was just posted on Dem Underground

    Dylan Garcia (302 posts)      Tue Aug-09-05 10:25 AM
    Original message
    Just spoke with Cindy. She has decided to stay in Crawford rather
     than following the president to Illinios on Wednesday. She is defering all actions outside of Crawford to other military family groups.

    I told her about the port-a-potties you guys are sending. She was tickled on one hand and sincerely appreciative on the other.

    She got off of the phone with me to catch a call from John Conyers.

    http://www.newdemocracyrising.com/lan.asp

  •  Crosses are being put up (none)
    Antoher update courtesy of the Thom Hartmann show.

    He said that 1,000 crosses have been donated by the Louisiana VFP group. They will be delivered in 24 hours and they need volunteers to help erect them. From what he was reading from (sorry I didn't catch the 'source')he said you may expect to have some public official there pulling them out as quickly as they can be erected.

    Let's see how this bogus man of faith (pres. Chimpy) handles that.

  •  Go Cindy Go! (none)
    You are a shining example of democracy at its finest, I am deeply sorry for your loss and stand firmly beside you in your quest for answers.  This administration has accountability issues and it is plain to see that your courage is in direct conflict with their acts of cowardice.  Power to the people!  
  •  We support you Cindy! (none)
    Your protest takes an extreme amount of Courage.  To walk up to Bush's front door, in the face of the Secret Service, subjecting yourself to the smear machine of the right, wow, now that takes courage.  You must've really loved Casey.

    Stay strong Cindy!  Bush won't talk to you, I predict, because he is intimidated by what you might ask.  He knows he has no answers for your questions, and that when compared to the bravery in your actions, he knows that he is a moral coward.

    Bless you Cindy.

  •  Support Cindy Now! (none)
    Cindy Sheehan is a true patriot--an American hero in the deepest sense--giving of herself on behalf of all of us.

    And isn't it often a mom who finally stands up to a schoolyard bully like George Bush?

    We should support her in every way possible--most importantly by going to Crawford to stand with her and stand up to Bush and his deadly lies--to say in one loud clear voice, ENOUGH!

    We can also help keep Cindy's cause in the public eye.  Please check out today's New York Times editorial, "One Mother In Crawford," at http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/09/opinion/09tue1.html
    E-mail it to everyone you know to make it the most e-mailed article of the day!

    Go Cindy!  Shine your light into the dark  bushes where lies try to hide.

    -jim

  •  Support Cindy Now! (none)
    Cindy Sheehan is a true patriot--an American hero in the deepest sense--giving of herself on behalf of all of us.

    And isn't it often a mom who finally stands up to a schoolyard bully like George Bush?

    We should support her in every way possible--most importantly by going to Crawford to stand with her and stand up to Bush and his deadly lies--to say in one loud clear voice, ENOUGH!

    We can also help keep Cindy's cause in the public eye.  Please check out today's New York Times editorial, "One Mother In Crawford," at http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/09/opinion/09tue1.html
    E-mail it to everyone you know to make it the most e-mailed article of the day!

    Go Cindy!  Shine your light into the dark  bushes where lies try to hide.

    -jim

  •  Great Op-Ed in Boston Globe (4.00)
    Found here

    Good question:  

    How long before more Americans join her and the clamor invades the Bush castle -- and that other castle known as Congress?

    Not long me thinks...

  •  Thom Hartmann was gonna fill in for Randi, turns o (none)
    Thom Hartmann was gonna fill in for Randi, turns out Randi is back and hosting her show live, but before she anounced shed be back, he booked CINDY for the show..so hopefully she'll call in.
  •  Keep the faith (none)
    Cindy, what you are doing is necessary and deeply inspiring. It may actually be the straw that broke the camel's back. Let's hope so. You are an inspiration, and the subject of my blog entry yesterday.

    Many an insightful opinion and observation can be found on my blog Occam's Razor.

    by Guy Noir on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 12:18:58 PM PDT

  •  the power of 1 (none)
    Wouldn't it be amazing if this one event, lead by one ordinary (or not so ordinary) person led to some actual movement on the war? Where Bush actually provided some information about his intentions, specific goals, and how close we are to them? I have no delusions about Sheehan's actions bringing home the troops any time soon, but it could prompt something even more important - some truth from the administration.

    for a lighter take: http://www.hairytruth.blogspot.com

    •  Hand her a BIBLE! (none)
      Maybe with one in her hand she would get some attention from the religious right!  

      Cindy my heart goes out to you.......stand tall...we stand behind you SOLIDARITY!  

      You have every right to ask questions regarding the war and how you feel about it...after all, your blood was spilled..........by the loss of your son.

      Love you.........

  •  Information on how you can help (4.00)
    has been arduously compiled by yours truly here.
  •  I am amazed at your determination and courage! (none)
    The world is in fact watching.  Even the rightest of right wingers knows in their heart that you were not a security threat Saturday, Sunday, Monday or today, and you won't be one of Wednesday or Thursday or whenever.

    I wonder if anyone in the Bush administration can truthfully say as much?? Do what you think is right.  Take care of yourself, and be proud.

    When the middle class is gone, who will support the Republicans in the manner to which they have grown accustomed?

    by keepinon on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 01:01:46 PM PDT

  •  Changing the subject (none)
    bush and rummy are all over the tube, trying to change the subject to Iran. oh Iran is sending arms to Iraq! are those the same ones that Iraq sent to Iran to hide from bush? Surprise, surprise!!
    Is that pesky woman still there. she is?
    IRAN, IRAN, IRAN, IRAN, SCARE SCARE, SCARE!!
  •  CNN REPORTING ON CINDY (none)
    good article on how the blogs are supporting cindy. they went into how the rightys are saying cindy liked bush when she first met him.
    but the reporter that wrote the initial story on cindy said those rethugs are taking it out of context!! good job, daily kos. they are reporting and showing the blog on cnn.
    •  John Conyers (4.00)
      Don't get me wrong, I love John Conyers.  He is a man of integrity and gritty courage.  This is not meant as a criticism, just an observation.

      If Conyers wants us all to support Cindy, then why has he not gone down there in solidarity with her in person?

      Where are all the spineless Democrats?  Why are they not making visits of solidarity with her?  Where are the Hollywood liberals?  Where the HELL is most of the media?  Why is there this near blackout of cable and network coverage?

      Inquiring minds want to know.

      •  Hey.....the 60's are dead. (none)
        The best thing Cindy can do is what she is doing.....going it alone.  This is a new day and age and I don't want to see it turned into the Schiavo fiasco..because that honored no one.  

        God speed Cindy and may the president be SMART enough to offer you a meal and his ear!  That would be the decent thing to do...just don't ask The Dick or Karl...do it!

      •  And Howard Dean (none)
        I think Dean should be there, too. I realize that these guys might have other engagements to tend to. Many representatives like to use this break to visit their home districts.

        However, what's wrong with a quick trip to Crawford to bring the protesters some snacks and have a quick chat and handshake session with the protestors? Even if they can't stay the whole time, a one-hour visit would put a bigger spotlight onto this great cause.

        Signature goes here.

        by lalawguy on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 03:01:04 PM PDT

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  •  To Cindy: (none)
    We love you and support you. If you have the time and read through the DKos diaries and comments, please ignore any infighting you see among the posters. It is not about you - whatever goes on between Kossacks does not reflect on your mission. We are behind you.
  •  Just got am email (4.00)

     Just got an emnail from one of my hunting buddies. He left for Crawford at 1.p.m. to support Ms. Sheehan, and to let her know not all Texans are a bunch of kool-aid drinkin' Bush worshippers. Told him to flip Bush the bird for me if he gets the chance or better yet, kick him square in the nuts!

  •  Freepers are seething with hate over Cindy (4.00)
    Incredible display of pure hate over in Freeper land where there are calls for naming Ms. Sheehan "Baghdad Cindy" and worse over her opposition to the war. It is amazing that to see how these self proclaimed good Christian right wing nuts blinker themselves from any semblence of balance or truth and are so certain that Ms. Sheehan is a traitor, crazy, insincere, a lier and a puppet for the Democrats. Not one kind word or any attempt to understand her motives. Just pure venom and rage that someone dared to ask question and to voice opposition to Dear Leader. I sincerely believe that if Jesus Christ himself came back to earth and championed a message of peace on earth and criticized war, He would quickly become the victim of a massive right wing smear campaign that would question his birth (Son of God and an earthly Virgin? Sounds like a bastard product of a illegimate affair...), his looks (who else but a pinko commie asshole would have a beard and long hair like that?), his friends (ever notice that he surrounds himself with so many MALE Apostles? Is Mr. Jesus of the PINK persuasion? Hint, hint...), his beliefs (Telling people to sell all their possessions and give the proceeds to the poor? Ah hah! Proof positive that Mr. Jesus is an enemy of American capitalism and the free economy!) and "Love your enemies and forgive those who wrong you"?! Isn't this the ultimate sign of a flip flopper?      
    •  I Agree (4.00)
      These so-called "Christians" make me ashamed to say I am a Christian.  They are Fascists.  Anyone who points out the real message of Jesus Christ, peace and charity for the poor, would get no hearing from these people.

      How we got to this point in our county is beyond me.  When people who push war and injustice, and greed for the rich, can have the gall to claim that they are followers of the teachings of Christ, how dare they!!  How dare the leaders of the church let them get away with it!!

      •  you just said what i have been thinking (none)
        for a long time,they are way off the mark. thanx michigan paul. peace, may you grow very old in the way.
        •  The American Fascists (4.00)
          Your welcome.  Thank you for the great link to that book about American Fascism 101.  I have been calling them Fascists ever since they stole the 2000 election.  I don't trust this gang and their actions have validated my distrust and outright fear of these rightwingers.  Someone has to stand up and call them for what they are.  If enough people would have stood up to Hitler in the early 30's when he was consolidating his power we would not have seen the tragedies of WWII and the Holocaust.

          But we have a very powerful Media run by the very corporations that are getting such huge tax cuts from the Bush crime regime.  They are giving us propaganda on behalf of the American corporate/media/military empire state.

          We have to be more like that Hackett guy.  We have to fight back and not to be afraid to call names.  If the shoe fits, they should be forced to wear it.

          These neocons who have allied themselves with the American Taliban are not nice people.  We are not in the 50's anymore, we are not dealing with Eisenhower, or even Nixon Republicans.

          We are dealing with a bunch of Fascists.  The sooner people accept the ugly truth the better it will be, and maybe we can save our country.

    •  One thing to remember.... (none)
      when they come on that strong, they are running scared!
  •  Cindy--I have been thinking of you so much (none)
    the past few days--I can't come to Texas right now, but I am there in spirit--more importantly, I'm off to your website now to make a donation.  Give 'em hell!

    ...the White House will be adorned by a downright moron...H.L. Mencken

    by bibble on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:23:17 PM PDT

  •  Latest news coverage: (none)

    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

    by ilona on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 04:51:10 PM PDT

  •  what (none)
    the heck is going on with the meetwithcindy.org website? when will it be fully operational again?
    •  Probably getting slamed from both sides (none)
      Those wanting info... and those wanting to shut it down with traffic...

      They should have multiple mirrors set up.

      "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -Martin Luther King, Jr. _______ "We will not be silent." -Howard Dean

      by jigsaw68 on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 06:34:52 PM PDT

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  •  Unintentional right-wing self-satire? (none)
    Of all the bile seeping out of conservatives mouths over Cindy's protest, Bob Newman (whoever he is) gets my vote for #1 buffoon.  Link below to a laughable op-ed that tries to play the race card:

    http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/newman/2005/newman080805.htm

    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. Groucho Marx

    by markymarx on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 06:45:41 PM PDT

  •  for those who don't subscribe to NYTimes (none)
    go to bagnews to see the actual page layout of the Cindy story, sitting right below the Bush vacation story. Pretty effective, imho.

    Be a Carville, not a Colmes

    by seesdifferent on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 07:00:01 PM PDT

  •  On my blog... (none)
    ...it's all Cindy, all the time. I think you'd be pleased with what I'm writing about you and Bush.

    JP
    http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com

    Defending bad taste and liberalism since 2005.

    by jurassicpork on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 07:57:46 PM PDT

  •  Cindy Sheehan in 2004 RealVoices.org TV Campaign (none)
    This needs to be shared, I think...Any ideas?
    (w/appropriate permissions obtained)

    _______________
    There is great power in grief and unbearable pain. Thousands of people feel this power in Mrs. Sheehan.

    The war party fears her.

    The war party are right to fear her.

    The war party has used fear and hate to fuel their power, and this ugliness & treachery cannot be used without cost.

    Reap what you have sown, Motherfuckers.

    Because it is this very same hate, this same fear that will bring them down.

    Reap what you have sown, Motherfuckers.

    This is retribution.

    Those who sent him to his death must now turn to face one who gave him life.

    Reap what you have sown, Motherfuckers.

    The Administration is not immune from the suffering & death they have set in motion.

    Reap what you have sown, Motherfuckers.

    We must keep Mrs. Sheehan's path clear, so her steps are sure and her words are steady.

    We must guard her safety, and her freedom to set her course, nurture her and the hope she brings us all.

    We honor her strength and learn from such suffering by remembering we each have within us the capacity to speak truth to power, to be heroic; and the capacity to "...believe absurdities and to commit atrocities." (Voltaire)

    It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood...War is hell.

    -General William T. Sherman

    It is finer to bring one noble human being into the world and rear it well...than to kill ten thousand.   -Olive Schreiner

    "See the pig dressed in his finest fine...believers stand behind him and smile as the day lights up with fire" Everybody Wake Up-Dave Matthews

    by Rigjob on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 09:03:47 PM PDT

  •  cindy sheehan and australia (none)
    Some of your media are not reporting this but NO media in Australia are reporting it. You would think that we here had nothing to do with Iraq. Amazing! I have cut and pasted all those media sites someone left on an earlier post complaining that I wanted news about what was happening in Crawford. (Used my hotmail address so they wouldn't know I was out of country!!)Keep up the good work Cindy. There are plenty over here who support what you are doing and hoping like hell that it has some effect. We don't have the same rabid type right wing media here, so much more subtle and they are not about to give air or print space to this story. I am madly sending this info to media outlets and friends which is the best I can do. I am batting for you Cindy!!
    Maggie from Australia
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