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Just a reminder of the elitist Bush clan world view, courtesy of Think Progress. Barbara Bush:

Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?

Barbara doesn't want to sully her mind with the deaths of the riff raff. Her son wants to "get on with his life".

Lovely people.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:50 AM PDT.

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  •  Must be nice to feel no guilt. (4.00)
    Theres something to be said for being a sociopath.

    Reigning Welterweight Female Piefighter since 1998

    by ablington on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:49:25 AM PDT

    •  For The Bushes, There Are Three Types of Americans (4.00)

      Other rich people.

      The help.

      The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

      by Dana Houle on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:53:07 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Brilliant! (none)

        Visit and follow every 2006 Senate race.

        by AnthonySF on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:53:50 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  The "niggerization" of the country (3.36)
        Yes, one policy: the Niggerization of the Nation. No middle class, just Bushes, Uber-rich, and the rest of us as a vast underclass.  
        •  To those who gave (none)
          low ratings...this is not a racist term...Cornel West uses it all the time.
          •  and John Lennon said (4.00)
            "Woman is the nigger of the world."

            Visit and follow every 2006 Senate race.

            by AnthonySF on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:14:30 AM PDT

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          •  Yes, but... (4.00)
            Cornel West is a noted African-American scholar, is reclaiming an inherantly offensive term and applying it to the very society (and ruling class) that have long oppressed America's black community.

            It's an inherently demeaning term, and I personally feel like its use should be avoided if at all possible -- especially in a context that has little or nothing to do with racial politics. It's shock value almost invariably steers a polite exchange of ideas into a heated argument (much like calling someone a Nazi). I've always agreed with Chris Rock on this:

            "This word, it's the only thing white people can't do. That's the only reason anybody writes about it. It's like white people can't believe there's a thing that exists that they can't do."

            I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it, and reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it.

            by Hard Left on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:24:20 AM PDT

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            •  Isn't it time to stop running scared (none)
              from vocabulary?

              Sure some people go batshit when they hear it.  Some people will always go batshit and they are NOT the people who should be dictating mores to others.  

              •  I have no idea... (none)
                what this even means.

                Words have definitions, and history, and impact. If somebody calls you a shithead, and you take offense, does that mean you're "running scared from vocabulary?" After all, every person on this planet has trace amounts of fecal coliform bacteria on their skin, so technically speaking you are a shithead.

                It's a specious argument that doesn't really address my main point at all.

                I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it, and reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it.

                by Hard Left on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:34:06 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

            •  No doubt its (none)
              a controversial term that some will find offensive.

              My point was that the poster meant it in the context used by Cornel West...much as he used it here:

              "Since 9/11 we have experienced the niggerization of America, and as we struggle against the imperialistic arrogance of the us-versus-them, revenge-­driven policies of the Bush administration, we as a blues nation must learn from a blues people how to keep alive our deep democratic energies in dark times rather than resort to the tempting and easier response of militarism and authoritarianism."

              West allows the term to have much larger range of meaning than one that is purely racial.

              •  It is true (none)
                That, by appending "-ization," West is creating an entirely different concept (meaning to subject a people or concept to the indignities visited upon black Americans), but it's still a very freighted term, and therefore should be used judiciously, if at all, imho.

                I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it, and reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it.

                by Hard Left on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:59:33 AM PDT

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            •  Yes it's demeaning. (none)
              Isn't that the point?

              "nusquam minus quam in bello eventus respondent" --- Hannibal

              by Warren Terrer on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 02:09:57 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

      •  The Help (none)
        That's a Maureen Dowd quote isn't it?  From one of her books, I think.
    •  a relevant quote... (none)
      ...from, of all people, Penn Gillette:

      "Get over guilt and lying with a straight face is easier than robbing a liquor store with a shotgun."

      Invisible airwaves crackle with life, bright antennae bristle with the energy

      by Ernest Tomlinson on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:29:58 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  How to Create Your Own Reality ? (4.00)
      repeat after me,

      there will be no casualties

      • leave the lefties to judicious study.

      • don't think about it or look at it and, voila! it's not there.

      • repeat ad nauseum, it becomes someone's reality eventually.

      • grow a community of like-minded faithers.

      "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
      --Confronted by political opposition, Bush explains his strategy on promoting Social Security reform. (Washington Post, "The Ostrich Approach," Dan Froomkin, May 25, 2005)

      "With the campaign over, Americans are expecting a bipartisan effort and results. I'll reach out to everyone who shares our goals."
      --In Bush's first press conference after the election on Nov. 4, 2004.

      "And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence."
      --Bush, demonstrating a weak grasp on reality at a campaign stop in Springfield, Ohio on Sept. 27, 2004.

      "You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."

      forever and ever, amen.

    •  And facts... Who cares what the facts are! (4.00)
      They really are a family of sociopaths. Mr Babs famously once said he would NEVER apologize, no matter what the facts are...

      Every [weapon] signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed. - Dwight D. Eisenhower

      by racerx on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:51:36 AM PDT

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  •  Republicans hate you (4.00)

    Unless you're rich, white, entitled, Christian and buy into the idea that the only thing impeding America from being what it should be is that pesky Constitution.

    Why do the facts, reality and objective truth hate America and the baby Jesus?

    by WinSmith on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:49:53 AM PDT

  •  My wish (3.83)
    I wish I could wave a magic wand and put Dub, Mommy, Laura, and especially the Twins Sanity Forgot, into the position of being poor and completely non-famous people in America.

    It would either teach them a lesson, or their heads would explode.

    •  The only salvation (3.80)
      The only chance for salvation of this nation while Bush is in office is if he gets visited by the ghost of Jacob Marley.
    •  Or it would be a smash hit (none)
      reality television show for the Great Unwashed.

      "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." --President Eisenhower

      by rhubarb on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:01:51 AM PDT

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    •  this is very similar to my wish (3.75)
      where they have to pay the country back for EVERYTHING.

      and must live in one very small house (twins sharing a room), worry about paying the bills, stay home for their 2wk/yr vacation because they cannot afford to go anywhere.  

      and live on Social Security.

      This is where I would like to see Babs and her brood.

      It makes me smile just to think what would happen to that "beautiful mind".

      •  There is a hilarious book about the Royals (none)
        The Queen and I by Sue Townsend

        The Royals have to go live in Brittish public housing. Some fair better than others -- it's a rather flattering image of the queen. It was published before the Chuck & Di split.

        My guilty secret is that I like to read a lot of the royal gossipy stuff (or I did back when they were  gossip-worthy), so I found this book side-splittingly funny.

        "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." -- John Stuart Mill

        by Auntie Mame on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:26:03 AM PDT

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        •  I have that book, (none)
          and you are right, it is hysterical..I would love to see someone write one like it about the Bushes. Maryscott comes to mind..LOL

          What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

          by Demfem on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 02:04:40 PM PDT

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      •  Do you remember when Carter and Rosslyn (4.00)
        lived on what they would get if they were on Social Security?? I think they did it for a week.. ok, it was at the White House, and the Kraft macaroni and cheese was fixed by the chef..but they took out the usual amounts for utilities and rent, and ate a diet that was paid for with the rest. They also had the White House thermostats set the same 68 in winter and 75 in summer that they were asking the rest of the country to do because of the energy crisis. Now that's a President who at least tries to keep in touch with what is going on in the country.

        What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

        by Demfem on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 02:12:19 PM PDT

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      •  Good idea (none)
        except no Social Security. Bush doesn't believe in it so I think he can do without it.

        "nusquam minus quam in bello eventus respondent" --- Hannibal

        by Warren Terrer on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 02:13:43 PM PDT

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    •  The Bush family is positively 4th street (none)

      Pop-gun president lying with impunity, soundbyte policies and photo opportunities

      by Dave the Wave on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:21:30 AM PDT

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  •  Barbara Bush? (4.00)
    Does anyone really listen to that old man?
  •  if it's not her son (none)
    it's not her problem.
    I think the very wealthy live quite differently than we do.

    You can teach creationism in our school if we can teach calculus in your church.

    by offred on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:51:45 AM PDT

    •  the very wealthy live quite differently than we do (none)
      Exactly. The relevant F. Scott Fitzgerald quote is, "The very rich are different from us." Thanks to Hemingway, it's one of the most widely misunderstood statements in American lit. It's not worshipful; he means the very rich are absolutely amoral, believing themselves to have complete impunity. It's the opening line of "The Diamond As Big As the Ritz," where the narrator spends a summer away from school with his friend whose family owns a diamond mine consisting of an entire mountain in Montana. For sport, they hunt people. Babs and her beautiful mind would fit right in.
      Thanks to Kos for reminding us of this staggering attitude. Whether or not Babs actually is the dragon lady portrayed by Kitty Kelly, the casual snobbery of some of her published statements -- when she called Geraldine Ferraro a "rich something that rhymes with witch," she was speaking as an old-money WASP from Cos Cob, CT, displeased that Italians from Queens should also have money -- should have been a liability to her husband and son. That it has not been reflects the media's deference not only to the Bush family personally but also to the idea of the traditional Northeastern ruling class.
      •  Isn't it (none)
        america and the american dream is all about?

        American dream is a myth!

        by brown american on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 07:36:25 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  yes, and at the end of the summer... (none)
         the rich boys family always has their guest killed so that he cannot carry tales of the great wealth to the outside world so that they won't have to share it. Of course the boyu does escape...with one of the sisters who warns him and the rest of the family is destroyed...after reading about Babs...I see yur wonder it's one of my favorite stories.

        "Calmer than you are Dude....calmer than you"

        by sula on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:36:27 PM PDT

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    •  But it is her son (none)
      who's responsible.  So she ought to think it's her problem.

      I think Pareto's right that every society has a ruling class of some sort.  But most of those ruling classes seem to feel some sense of obligation and civic duty.  So did ours, back during World War Two.  What is it about our current ruling class?  What do they think justifies their privileged position?

  •  Warning: offensive Language! (4.00)
    I would have to say the turd doesn't fall far from the asshole.

    Pop-gun president lying with impunity, soundbyte policies and photo opportunities

    by Dave the Wave on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:51:46 AM PDT

  •  From what I have read (4.00)
    Barbara Bush truly lives her life this way....didn't even waste her "beautiful mind" on her dead daughter..went golfing the next day.
  •  Al Franken (4.00)
    I was just listening to him prior to coming to check out the blog and he referred to this exact quote.  Her child didn't get the way he is without plenty of help from this savage, soulless, heartless woman.  That she could utter those words and see nothing wrong with them is most telling about who she is as a person.  Not a pretty sight.  
  •  apparently (4.00)
    Her mind is about as beautiful as her body.

    "This...this is the fault of that Clinton Penis! And that powermongering wife of his!"

    by CaptUnderpants on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:52:15 AM PDT

  •  She's the one (4.00)
    who is irrelevant.  And Bush, Jr. is just a chip off the old block.  
  •  I still can't (4.00)
    quite wrap my head around how a connecticut born billionaire son of a former president former CEO and graduate of harvard and yale could shed the notion that he is an elitist so completely that nobody even notices that the brush clearing is nothing but a massive photo-op.

    the bushes couldn't possibly be more disconnected from the real world.

    •  the bushes couldn't possibly be more disconnected (none)
      Them AND their elitist set!

      Torture. It's what's for dinars.

      by Joon on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:56:19 AM PDT

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    •  Just once... (4.00)
      ... I'd like a reporter to ask Bush what the price of milk is, or the price of gas.
      •  He may not know the price of milk (4.00)
        but he knows when the price of gas goes up 1/2 cent per gallon. His cowboy hat gets stretched a little tighter, and his brag gets a little more docious.

        Pop-gun president lying with impunity, soundbyte policies and photo opportunities

        by Dave the Wave on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:14:23 AM PDT

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      •  I'm sure his response would be along the lines of (none)
        "Are ya implyin' that I hafta pay for sumthin'?"

        ITSALONGWAYTOGO when you don't know where you're going; you don't where you're going when you're lost...

        by Omen on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:17:12 AM PDT

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      •  Don't know if you remember (3.75)
        but back before the '92 election there was an effort to increase the "consumer confidence" level.  Part of this effort was to show George and Barbara at a shopping mall.  Totally backfired because Bush was so out of touch that he spent several minutes totally fascinated  by the scanner that read the bar code information.  Obviously he had not been near a store in more than a decade.

        Some thought that this was another nail in his coffin.  It's never good to be so out of touch with the way the real world lives.  

        •  Yes indeedy (none)
          I was thinking about just that, but it's obvious that, for whatever his failings, Bush has been exposed to things like iPods and Segways.  He's also comparatively young, and, while his dad was (for good or ill) working for the government for a significant portion of his adult life, Bush 2.0 was just basically farting around.  So I wouldn't expect a made-for-TV "you mean you can buy shirts on the Internet?!" (someone actually asked me that once) moment from him.  

          But I still don't think he has a clue what people are actually going through on a daily basis.

    •  Right-on! (none)
      I always thought it was strange that a political party that supposes to represent those that got where they are in the world through "honest hard work" and "on their own merits" would nominate a person who obviously is only where he his today because of who he is, not what he has done.
    •  But yet, people buy the image. (none)
      Carefully crafted one that it is.  That's the part I don't understand.  How can so many people buy into that BS?  It's one big damn jar of Kool-Aid those Bushies are peddling.
      •  Just like (none)
        people buy the image that Republicans are the military tough guys and Dems are pacifist softies even though Bush went awol, Cheney never served, but Kerry and Gore both got their asses shot at in Nam.

        Of course the most hysterical one is that Reagan, who was in his 30s at the time, somehow managed to totally avoid all things military during WW2, the big one, and yet is hailed as the toughest President in US history. So much for the 'greatest generation'.

        "nusquam minus quam in bello eventus respondent" --- Hannibal

        by Warren Terrer on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 02:25:21 PM PDT

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    •  poor (none)
      american people who does not know anything better than genuflex to their brand of royalty

      American dream is a myth!

      by brown american on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 07:39:31 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I love that 'Simpsons' episode (4.00)
    where the elder Bushes move across the street.  They make HW look like such a crank, and Babs looks all grandmotherly (yeah, right!)

    "Bar, that spikey-haired boy is our yard again!"

    (By the way, the writers referred to Dubya as "George Bush Junior" in the episode.  Is that what he used to be called before he got all grown up and ruined the country?)

    Visit and follow every 2006 Senate race.

    by AnthonySF on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:52:54 AM PDT

    •  the HW and babs portrayal (none)
      was an homage/satirization of dennis the menace
    •  That episode was classic (none)
      Bart and Homer terrorizing GHWB was classic--like when Bart ruined his memoirs and he was like, "I'm gonna do what that daddy of yours should've done a long time ago" and spanks him.

      "But the people of America have spoken, and they're saying they want four more years of Douchebag!!" -Family Guy Movie

      by BlueEngineerInOhio on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:33:28 AM PDT

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    •  dubya (4.00)
      was called Georgie growing up, if i recall correctly.  Read The Family by Kitty Kelly if you love dirt about the Bushes, especially George Senior and Babs.  An absolutely delightful read.  It does come off as gossipy, and therefore implausible, but for lite reading, I don't have a problem with that.

      There is one part that got etched in my memory.  This guy was paying Barbara a compliment on her dress.  "You look lovely today, Barbara," or something.  She hissed, "You don't have to kiss up to me.  I'm a fat old woman and I look terrible and you know it."

      hee hee

  •  his mind is beautiful (3.72)
    only because it sits unused, in its original packaging
  •  Contempt of all whom they would control (4.00)
    They don't want to pollute their beautiful minds by contemplating the the daily drama and trauma of ordinary life for most people. Even while they add to the trauma

    Yet they insist on ruling over us.

    Her pitiful child claims that being President is hard work. Yet he has taken more vacation in five years than Clinton did in eight. Obviously the job is too much for him - yet he insist on ruling over us.

    We live in the age of oxymorons where the simble of the age is a moron.

  •  No Shame (4.00)
    That family has no shame.

    As a mother, I've always aserted that we are a direct reflection on how our parents raised us.  Babs' kids are morons without any compassion, honor or sense of ownership for their actions and words.  They shirk their responsiblity, letting others serve in their place.  Babs and George Sr. have failed their children miserably.

    And given the behaviour of the twins, I'd say Jr. and his wife have failed the girls as well.  No direction in life.  They raised the girls as privileged brats so the cycle continues.

    I only hope and pray they're able to break the cycle of alcoholism that seems to run in their family.  It's a horrible legacy to pass down to your children.

  •  Compassion (4.00)
    to people like the Bush family is to allow the maid to take home leftovers from their last night's dinner party.

    "Everything that rises must converge"

    by jpgod on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:54:24 AM PDT

  •  And to think... (none)
    ... I used to say she was the good one in the family and that she was a good "grandmother for America."

    Of course, I was a wee teenager.

    Please tell me someone has video.

  •  Bush family's Leona Helmsley (4.00)
    she really is a miserable piece of shit
  •  Why should she waste (4.00)
    her "beautiful mind?" Did she really just say that??

    I guess it's easier wasting the beautiful minds of our nation's strong and brave troops than it is to dedicate a minute to even reflect, seriously, on the sacrifices they are making and...and...for what??

    Phillybits A Showcase Of Political News and Thought

    by Stand Strong on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:56:09 AM PDT

    •  *That* really shows the almost comic book level (none)
      these people sit on. Who does she think she is, Joan Collins?

      we now know a lot of things, most of which, we already knew... (-dash888)

      by Tirge Caps on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:09:09 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  It's that fatal word, "beautiful"... (4.00)
      ...that really elevates this statement of Mrs. Bush's above the common level.  Leave it out and it's standard, I-don't-give-a-shit callousness.  But with that "beautiful" it's sublime, what-the-fuck-was-she-smoking lunacy.  "Beautiful mind"?  What on earth does she think is beautiful about it?  Consider also that the words "beautiful mind" are most firmly attached to the name of a brilliant mathematician.  Is she comparing her mind to his?

      Invisible airwaves crackle with life, bright antennae bristle with the energy

      by Ernest Tomlinson on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:20:51 AM PDT

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  •  Babs (none)
    Babs Bush thinks she's Marie Fucking Antoinette. Lords of Kobol, what a loathsome hag!


    "There are no atheists in foxholes. There are no Republicans in them, either."

    by Ari Mistral on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:56:33 AM PDT

  •  Even Hannity doesn't agree with her (4.00)
    He thinks Bush owes Cindy Sheehan an explanation:

    'Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?' --Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

    Oh, sorry, that was about Clinton.  My bad.

    Rubus Eradicandus Est.

    by Randomfactor on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:57:09 AM PDT

    •  You know (4.00)
      I really wish someone would do a television show, or a documentary showing the lists and lists of examples from the nineties of the Republicans pounding on Clinton and then switch to the last five years with all this "We have to support the president" "We have to pull together in a time of war". Its just disgusting. I see something for Frontline to get cracking on. They could call it "Hypocrisy in the Modern Age", or "Principles Made of Sand".

      we now know a lot of things, most of which, we already knew... (-dash888)

      by Tirge Caps on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:14:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Lay off Bar-bar! (none)
    She raised a dog that can write a bestseller!  What more can you ask form the poor woman?


  •  sociopaths don't relate to any other humans (4.00)
    Aristocrats on the other hand, merely find a way to remove the humanity of "the lower clases".

    Not unlike racists ability to deny the humanity of other ethnic groups.

    Not unlike the ability of tribes to deny the humanity of those in opposing tribes.

    Is this new? no, but I would argue it is now worse in this country than it was just 50 years ago.

    The upper middle-class (doctors, lawyers etc.)has started sending their children to private schools, the way once only the upper classes did. Thats the first step toward teaching their children that they belong to another tribe.

    SOCIAL SECURITY: Invented by Democrats yesterday, Protected by Democrats today

    by mollyd on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:58:27 AM PDT

    •  The Aristocrats! (4.00)
      Could be a new middle for that joke.

      The Bushes walk into a talent agency. The agent tells them he doesn't book family acts.  The father says, "Oh, but we're a very SPECIAL family act."  

      The agent says, "OK, show me what you do."

      So first the father plunges the country into a deep recession, then the mother takes the dog and makes it write a book.  Meanwhile one son trades away the best player on his baseball team while the other son loots the Savings and Loans of the country.  The father invades Iraq, kills thousands, but refuses to remove the dictator

      The daughter-in-law, meanwhile has jumped into a car and run over an old boyfriend.  They trading away Sammy Sosa son now steals an election, watches buildings get blown up by planes he could have stopped and smuggles his Saudi friends out of the country.  He then invades Afghanistan and Iraq and splits wide the division in the country between left and right and refuses to meet with the mother of a slain soldier.

      "Interesting act," the agent says.  What do you call it?

      They answer, "The Aristocrats!"

  •  And those of us (4.00)
    against the war are the anti-Americans?

    Why should we hear about the soldiers who are killed, names like Casey Sheehan?  Why should these things ruin our day?  Why should her son ever question his decision?  Why should her son ever think other then he has made no mistakes?

    Why should we worry about Iraq as it continues to edge ever closer to being another Iran?  

    My god, do those who are going to Crawford on that "You don't speak for me Cindy" tour think that Barbara Bush is speaking for them?  Wave that flag for Bush folks, wave it and remember that Bush has better things to do then "waste my beautiful mind" on the body bags and death HE has ordered.

    How those who are supporting this war can continue to do so, to say that those on the left don't support the troops when things like this are said by the Bush family....

    "September 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be the day liberty perished in this country." Judge Gerald Tjoflat

    by SanJoseLady on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:58:52 AM PDT

  •  But Americans LOVE her!11!!!1! (4.00)
    The inherent sexism of the media is revealed by the fact that Bar Bush and Nancy Reagan (women who actually DID wield total power in the family) are admired so long as they act meek and adoring in public, whereas women like Hillary, who have the guts to admit their influence, are reviled.

    Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then they get elected and prove it.

    by David J on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:00:04 AM PDT

  •  Help! Need a link... (none)
    I need a link for a friend to Duh's quote about wanting to get on with his life.

    I need to it come from a "MSM" source (sorry), like CNN or MSNBC or BBC or something (please don't take offense, it's for a "outsider")

  •  Arrrrrrgggggggghhhh! (none)
    Blissfully stated  I bet too.
    I can just see her old lady rosie cheeks shining when she said it too.
    I would be willing to bet she was wearing that smug family  smirk that screams~ Pffft The meek shall inherit the earth HA! only after my son is done raping her.~
    I guess thats the difference between a Sheehan & a Bush.
    Yeah Cindy BOOO Barbara
  •  beautiful? (none)
    she's never been beautiful.


  •  The pretensions of the wannabe aristocracy (4.00)
    Don't want to waste your "beautiful minds"?  Then get the fuck out of public office.  The presidency isn't Bush's throne and no one forced the Bush family to participate in politics.

    These parasites scramble, steal, and hack their way into office, only to casually announce their disdain of us serfs who they (sigh) were forced to lord over. Good Lord, will these people crawl back into their holes already?

    I don't think our troops should be used for what's called nation building. - George W. Bush, 2000

    by GN1927 on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:04:16 AM PDT

  •  Compassionate Conservatism (4.00)
    at it's best.

    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

    by Cordelia Lear on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:05:19 AM PDT

  •  The Nut Does Not Fall Far... (4.00)
    as stated. Nut is a good way to describe the person of GW Bush, the Coward. He is NUTS. I wish that I did not have to waste my beautiful mind by the ugliness which is the handiwork of your son, this Coward. Mama Bush, just as you stated to Al Franken - "I am through with you".
  •  No fucking way - Is this for real?! (none)
    I cannot believe she really said "my beautiful mind"

    Why wasn't such an outrageous comment plastered all over the place before. Ahhh but the media excuses it.  If a Democrat had said that... forget it.

    I voted for John Kerry and all I got was a lousy sticker...

    by diplomatic on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:07:39 AM PDT

  •  She doesn't even write her own checks. (none)
    OTHERS get her what she wants then OTHERS pay the bills.

    I met someone like her once.  
    She was 72 years old and had NEVER washed her own hair.  
    Her Nanny washed it when she was a child and then it was the beauty parlor.  
    That was just something SHE didn't do.

    PS Her kids never server either.

  •  Bushes (4.00)
    Elite thinking from an elitist. No surprise here.
  •  Transcript for sale (none)
    I generally assume stuff like this is take out of context. The complete transcript is for sale here: for $29.95. I'm too cheap but maybe somebody else would like to purchase it and let us know what the interchange was that lead to this statement.
  •  Barbara (4.00)
    I saw that interview and when made that statement I almost choked.  She was dead serious and I felt the most intense hatred at that very moment.  I seriously think I could have done her bodily harm if I had been in her actual physical presense.  How absolutely disgusting can this person be to say something like that?  We probably don't really want to know but we are seeing it in the form of the sons she raised, aren't we?

    Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    by panicbean on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:14:39 AM PDT

  •  There you have it! (4.00)
    The apple doesn't fall far from the tree in this case, that's for sure. What an unfeeling asshole this woman is. She has said really nasty stuff in the past, but I have to say, this takes the cake, which is apparently, what we should all be eating.

    "Part of the facts is understanding we have a problem, and part of the facts is what you're going to do about it."-- G.W. Bush, April 15, 2005

    by flashlass on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:17:54 AM PDT

  •  One years salary (none)
    I would give one years salary to see her spend a week in Pelican Bay or Chino.

    She needs a rude awakening in a big way.

    I am sure that her set of "friends" feel the very same way. Why bother thinking about that stuff when the country club fall social gathering needs to be organized. The press just doen't quote all those other elitist nobodies. She is still a bitch in my book.

    Pick that shit up, my world is NOT your ashtray!

    by Solarwind on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:20:06 AM PDT

  •  She is mistaking for beauty (none)
    •  Never Liked This Lady (4.00)
      I never liked this lady, except for a brief interval when she first became First Lady when I didn't know anything about her.  (After 8 years of the Royal Queen of Mean Nancy Reagan I thought anyone could be an improvement.)

      Americans who are not well-read still view Barbara Bush as a nice old grandmotherly type person.  For those who have read up on her, or know her personally, this woman is the Queen Bitch.

      Her comments quoted above do not surprise me.  King George did not get his uncaring, arrogant, cruel persona by osmosis.  He got it as the result of upbringing in the Bush Royal Crime Family, and has the nasty DNA of Papa Bush and the Queen Bitch all over his chromosones.

      Like Al Franken said in his book- "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them", Barbara Bush once told him on an airplane when they randomly met up in First Class that she was "through with him."

      Well, I'm "through" Queen Bitch and her bastard son King George, and I have been through with them for a long, long time.

  •  grrrr (none)
    I meant

    "She is mistaking emptiness for beauty"

  •  She worries about her grandkids (4.00)
    From Bar's recent trip to Atlanta alongside Dubya, stumping for Social Security changes:
    "I'm here because I'm worried about our 17 grandchildren," said Barbara Bush.
    Let's see, Bar's kids are millionaires, and her grandkids stand to inherit fortunes. But she's concerned that if Social Security isn't changed (private accounts being the cornerstone), her grandkids may suffer.

    Selfish bitch.

    He has oil. He tried to kill my daddy.

    by kensa on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:22:34 AM PDT

  •  And Rummy says that KIAs are (4.00)
    no more important than traffic accident victims or school openings.

     "And I look at the situation and I -- in my mind, I think of the number of people who are lost to traffic accidents in the United States in a given year.  I think of any one of our major cities, where two or three hundred people are killed by homicides.  And you ask how long will we tolerate it?  Now, if there were a daily report about the number of traffic deaths and if the television and the press were reporting these things and photographing them and the homicides, I don't know if -- Washington, D.C. had something like 230 homicides last year -- and if that were reported daily every single day, one would think that the effect might be that it would reduce the number of homicides or reduce the number of traffic deaths.  But what's being reported is the fact -- not the fact that the schools are open, not the fact that the hospitals and clinics are open, not the fact that Iraq's got a stock exchange and that their oil and energy circumstances are proceeding apace, not the fact that tens of thousands of people are lined up to join the Iraqi security forces, not the fact that there's hundreds and hundreds of people running for public office and that there were something like 8 million people who voted in the last election on January 30th.  Those kinds of things get relatively modest attention, and what gets the attention is the death of Iraqis and the death of coalition forces."

    "War is a racket . . .the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives" . . . Smedley Butler

    by DonB on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:22:39 AM PDT

  •  My mom called (4.00)
    just before I started to read this thread.  She told me that the nephew of a woman, with whom she had worked for many years, was killed in Iraq, and his body was arriving home today.

    "Home" is a small, very small, town in rural West Michigan.  The town is so small, and people know each other so well that a section of M-37 will be shut down to allow people to pay their respects as the hearst carrying his body goes by.

    Because the family's church is too small to hold all the people who plan to attend the funeral, another local church, not of the same denomination, has opened its doors for the family to hold the funeral there.

    His name was Brian Derks, and he was 21 years old.

    Maybe Barbara Bush doesn't want her beautiful mind on him, but my mind can't stop thinking of him.

    Maybe our sorry excuse of a President needs to get on with his life, but Brian's life is over, and I can't imagine how his family is going to get on with theirs.

    The Bushes are monsters.

    "I think it's also important for me to go on with my life, to keep a balanced life." - GWB 8/14/2005

    by blueinnc on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:31:01 AM PDT

    •  How can people be so uncaring? (4.00)
      I was at a vigil for Cindy on Wednesday, and at the end, the names of all that were from MI and died in Iraq were read.  I caught the name of the daughter of someone I used to know, but lost track of--a very unusual first name, and the small town that they live in!  I didn't even know the girl was in the service--the last time I saw her, she was 3 or 4 years old!  I freaked and was in tears!  

      "I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in." George Mc Govern.

      by Street Kid on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 02:28:32 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I forget where I read this... (4.00)
    ...but it sums things up nicely:  The Bush family classifies people two ways -- you're either a member of the family, or you're the help.  I invoke what should be called Barry's law, since I found it in a column by Dave Barry*:  "A person who is not nice to the waiter is not a nice person."  The Bushes are not nice to waiters.  Or Democrats.  Or decorated war heroes.  Or grieving mothers.  Or anybody who signs paychecks on the back.

    And I have found myself wondering about the Bush family parenting skills.  Because when you get right down to it, Junior is incredibly rude -- everything else is rooted in that one trait, for my money.  That generally speaks ill of how one was raised.  

    Or so I was told by my mother, who taught me to always be polite.  And here I invoke Elwood P. Dowd:  "My mother said to me, 'Elwood' -- she always called me Elwood -- 'in this world you must be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant.'  For years I was smart.  I recommend pleasant.  You may quote me."

    Quite the contrast to George W. Bush, who is neither...

    *And since I almost never read Mr. Barry's columns, this must be some kind of kismet or something...

  •  Can you say "Sociopath" (4.00)
    While I accept the caveats in the DSM-IV that "the proper use of these [criteria] requires clinical training, knowledge and skills to apply them," and the "[t]heir use by people without this background is likely to lead to an inappropriate application of diagnoses," I nevertheless offer for your amusement and consideration the DSM-IV diagnostic criteria for "antisocial personality disorder":

    Interpersonal dimension:
    Glibness/superficial charm
    Grandiose sense of self-worth
    Pathological lying
    Lack of remorse or guilt
    Shallow affect
    Callous/lack of empathy
    Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

    Affective dimension:
    Need for stimulation/-proneness to boredom
    Parasitic lifestyle
    Poor behavioral controls
    Early behavioral problems
    Lack of realistic, long-term goals
    Juvenile delinquency
    Revocation of conditional release

    Behavioral dimension:
    Promiscuous sexual behavior
    Many short-term marital relationships
    Criminal versatility

    The diagnostician is supposed to assign a value 0 (absent), 1 (possibly or partially present), or 2 (present)to each of these traits to develop the diagnosis.  This may be a pointless exercise, but it could be fun!  Anyway, I leave it to you all to make your own judgments.  If you want to read the whole entry, go to:

    Impeach 'em all

    •  1st time...hope I get this right (none)
      Scott Peterson = George W Bush???
    •  What do they mean by (none)
      "revocation of conditional release"? Sounds like something that might happen to Martha Stewart!

      We'll rise above the scarlet tide That trickles down through the mountain And separates the widow from the bride --Elvis Costello

      by Bob Quixote on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:58:45 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I agree, (none)
        beats the hell outta me.  Since it's under "Affective dimension," maybe it has something to do with a kind of emotional boomeranging, tentatively allowing oneself to feel something and then disallowing oneself that feeling.  Another, more discursive list in the same article contains these items:

        "[DSM-IV] defines anti-social personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:

        1.  failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
        2.  deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
        3.  impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
        4.  irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
        5.  reckless disregard for safety of self or others
        6.  consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
        7.  lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another"

        Remember, I'm not a real doctor....

        Impeach 'em all

  •  Babs (4.00)
    Babs is a stupid whore
  •  Letter from '41 to '43 (4.00)

    Just a note to say thanks for the left over BBQ you mailed us from Crawford.  (Next time, use dry ice instead of regular ice cubes to pack it!)  Your ma was able to dry the ribs out with a hair dryer, but the potato salad was a total loss.  (You know your ma, she can squeeze the buffalo on a nickel until he poops!  Ha ha.)

    Your ma and I have always believed we should  let our children make their own mistakes, but this Iraq thingy is a fine pickle, isn't it?  I wish you'd spent less time looking at the pictures in "My Pet Goat" and more time listening to your Uncle Brent and me that weekend, but you always were a stubborn little cus.  I want to be clear about one thing, son, Read My Lips:  no more bailouts from the Carlyle Group, Harvard Trust and all the others.  I've gone to those wells too many times already.  Heck, Bandar-Bush isn't even returning my calls any more.

    Anyway, I didn't write to lecture you.  And I have to go meet Bill C. for a round of golf and a couple of beers.  (Your ma's been into the Beefeater's for a good two hours, so I need to get out of Dodge before she gets into her rampage.  You know what that's like, right?  Ha ha.  She wanted me to remind you to wear your kneepads and helmet and stay out of the pretzels.


    p.s. I don't know what the thingy is between you and Neil.  Just give him the darned yo-yo back.  Karl can get you a newer, better one.

    Torture. It's what's for dinars.

    by Joon on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:42:51 AM PDT

  •  Only the "little brown ones" are dying (4.00)
    Her husband referred to his grand children of Hispanic descent as "the little brown ones" (in '88 or '92.)

    While Barbara is concerned for them, I don't think she cares about any 'brown' grandmother's children. (Or the non millionaire white ones for rthat matter.)

    MY creator perfected me through a process called evolution. YOUR creator seems to have gotten the 'design' wrong the first time and given up.

    by mungley on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 10:43:12 AM PDT

  •  Ignorance & Arrogance Runs Wild in This Family (none)
    They really believe they are above it all don't they???? Bush Crime Family sounds about right.
  •  Do KIAs always get military funerals? (none)
    What I mean is, can his/her family opt out of that? Have any done that? As a way of saying -

    • his life was about so much more than just his service

    • the military was to do with his death, not with his life

    • he was yours for a short while, but he's ours forever

    No flags and gun salutes - not as a form of protest, or a 'political statement' or a 'publicity stunt' but as an affirmation of larger values?
    •  The family can't (none)
      Only the person who served can decide that. Which is something you put into your mountains of paperwork. Most people who serve do choose to have a military burial though, in fact, I don't know of anyone who decided to not have one. Like I said, it's for the individual who puts on the uniform and swears the oath whether or not they want military honors at their funeral.
  •  I have 1 word for Bush (4.00)
    Resign - then he can get on with his life and I can get on with mine.  Having to pay this much attention to politics is exhausting!  I want somebody in there that I can trust, so I can relax for a minute.  Just walk away!
  •  Populism (4.00)
    While Barbara Bush is irrelevant (among other things), this thread touches on an opportunity to use populism to frame arguments against Bush's policies, both economic and foreign, which I feel has been underplayed by Democrats, with the exception of John Edward's "Two Americas." The Republicans dismiss attacks on the rich by claims of "class warfare" but check out the recent NYTimes series (discussed elsehwere) on class in America.

    Class distinctions in America are more important and impact lives more than in many other countries. The personification of these class differences by mom Bush's arrogant comments is a way to point out real phenomena, like how difficult class mobility has become in  over the past 20-30 years and how Bush's policies are making it more so.

  •  my opinion of Barbara peaked (3.66)
    after her sledding accident, (I thought we shared something in common) but it's been going downhill ever since.
  •  I keep thinking of Dana Carvey as Bush I (4.00)
    "Imagine those bulging eyes over a black teddy comin' atcha. Scary! Scary!"
  •  Ode to a beautiful mind (4.00)
    Don't tell me how many, what day, or when it's gonna happen
    who did this, that, the other and the body bag wrapping
    to me it all sounds like one hand clapping
    Such thoughts don't trouble my beautiful mind.

    Should I suffer just because their lives are in danger?
    Do you suppose that I would care about a bunch of strangers?
    Praise the lord, wave the flag, and pass the channel changer.
    Ugly thoughts don't trouble my beautiful mind.

    Pop-gun president lying with impunity, soundbyte policies and photo opportunities

    by Dave the Wave on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:17:43 AM PDT

  •  Dear Barbara Bush. . . (4.00)
    Between Prescott Bush doing business with the Nazis, your husband pimping for the Carlyle Group, one of your sons (Neil) looting Silverado Savings and Loan, and another son (W) sending more than 1,800 Americans to their deaths for a pack of lies, I've concluded that the Bush family has likely made more money off the misery of others than any other family in American history.

    Take a bow.

    "Sacrifice" to you means getting by with only four Summer homes, instead of the normal five.

    One question. Do you feel any shame about preaching "family values" to the rest of us despite your own family's history of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, divorce, draft-dodging and shagging Asian teens?

    Your son, our President, remains a true inspiration each and every day. The man rose to the highest office in the land after starting with virtually nothing in life, except for political and financial royalty, an Ivy League education, a father in the White House, and a friendly Supreme Court. One weeps with pride at such an accomplishment.

    By the way, Cindy Sheehan sends her best.

  •  When (4.00)
    did Barbara become spokesmodel for Quaker Oats?

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    George ought to be ashamed of himself. Making his mother work at her age.

  •  Oh how awful (none) be so detached and uncaring.  I can't believe anyone, much less a highly public figure, would express such a view.  

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke

    by CyberDem on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:33:33 AM PDT

  •  Why we need an Inheritance Tax (none)
    Franken's chapter on Barbara Bush in "Lies and the Lying Liars" is one of the best short essays that I've read. It is very well crafted and has that great line of Barbara's that I use a lot when I'm dismissing my dogs from the room, "I'm done with you". We must stop these people from breeding. And further more Thom Hartmann pointed out this rant on Barbara knew that her son was a little "teched in the head". I blame her for everything.

    There are only two kinds of Montanans, those who love Montana and those who want to use Montana.

    by MontanaMaven on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 12:17:47 PM PDT

  •  Is this an urban legend? (none)
    Have no problem believing Babs is that evil, but it's hard to believe anybody would be dumb enough to say something that outrageous.  Context?
  •  How very Marie Antoinette of her (none)
    ... and we all know what happened to her.

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mohandas Gandhi

    by trueblue illinois on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 12:31:34 PM PDT

  •  republican hag (4.00)
    Another republican hag America can do without. Apart from Betty Ford I cannot think of a single republican first lady in the last 40 years whose deserved the prestige of being first lady or made America a better place by being first lady.  

    "They'll all rot, them and their kind" - giancarlo giannini in movie Swept Away

  •  Left I on the News (none)
    Interestingly enough, this same item was posted at Left I on the News three days ago. :-)
  •  Why is this not on prime time news (none)
    If true this makes me sick to think a former First lady and the mother of a President is a heartless UNAMERICAN evil and vile human.
    I sincerely hope this is a hoax.  
  •  "her beautiful mind?" (4.00)
    Is she joking? Talk about delusional.


    She's got to be one of the ugliest people both inside and out... That nasty fraggle rock creation needs to do the country a favor... and take her daily dose of "shut the fuck up."

    What a sleazy family. What a scummy nasty hag... I guess it's really no surprise these GOP slimebags turn out the way they do. With mothers and families like Bush's and Rove's... it's not surprising all these guys are screwed up in the head.

    Again, Barb Bush is human waste... filth... social detritus. She's the lowest form of life. She's a fungus on our society... just another rich leech sucking the lifeblood out of our economy, our culture... we'd all be a lot better off if these people had never been born.

    I wish Barb would get a chance to read some of these diaries so she could be aware of how revolted we are by her... how her ugliness both outside and in makes us all want to gag. A more disgusting filthy person has never had the pleasure of vomiting forth her senile diseased mind's blasphemies from the White House window.

    Just get lost Barb. Nobody gives a fuck what you think... you're just a nasty old senile bag of puss and it won't be long now before you join the rest of your clan down in the deapest bowels of Hell. I can wait personally until you're suffering and frying for the rest of eternity. If anyone ever deserved it, it's you.

    Buy Democracy Bonds or Justice sleeps with the fishes.

    by Don Quixotic on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 01:25:42 PM PDT

  •  Apples and Trees (none)
    Once more we have proof that apples don't fall far from the tree they grew in. Why are we surprised that GW is the heartless cretin he is. He learned how to be such at his mother's knee. This woman needs to read about the causes of the French revolution. Madame DeFarge had nothing on Barbara "the banal bitch." Beware the days of the Revolution that is coming. She would also benefit from reading the many things that Jesus had to say about people who flaunt their wealth. But of course her type doesn't read the Gospels, only Revelation and the Old Testament.  
    Also she would not be able to comprehend a mother like Cindy Sheehan because her family has never learned from her the first thing about sacrifice. Ugh! these kind of people disgust me.
  •  Truly AMAZING... (none)
    Babs just said the equivalent of "let them eat cake." How can we get her to comment on MORE things, and when? The cruelty of her statement makes me sad. I know she's just trying to defend her beleaguered son, but doesn't she have an ounce of sympathy for the sacrifices of our troops?

    When is this country going to stand up and say ENOUGH!

  •  The entire Bush Clan (none)
    Just a big steamy pile of shit.

    According to the 9/11 Commission there was no connection between 9/11 and Iraq.

    by txbirdman on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 02:22:22 PM PDT

  •  17 GrandChildrenChickenHawks (none)
    GrandaMa Bush has 17 grandchildren eligible for military service and not one has served, or is serving...

    Now that's the kind of patriotism that she can wrap her beautiful mind around!!!!!!!!!!

  •  Apples don't fall far from the tree (none)
    Even rotten ones.

    Barbara Bush is the best argument there is for an inheritance tax, which I like to call the Aristocrat tax. The idea that this selfish, mean, spoiled and wholly phony piece of garbage thinks she has a "beautiful mind" only proves how deep self delusion can run.

    What's worse is that the son of this harridan is even more callous and sociopathic than his mother, and he "runs" the country. Now you know why we're in such deep trouble.

    A liberal is a man so broadminded he wouldn't take his own side in an argument........Robert Frost

    by mjshep on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 04:00:51 PM PDT

  •  Her beautiful mind? (none)
        The old, vicious cow is a college dropout.  At least Nancy Reagan got her degree.
  •  b b beautiful mind not! (none)
    this is the same so and so that made a commercial that you should have supper at least 2 times per week to keep your kids from being drug addicts and alcaholics,  wonder what happened?  #1 is alcaholic,   #2(?) drug addict
    #(3?) is implicated in fraud.   Sounds like she should follow her own advice!

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