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101st Fighting Keyboardists and chickenhawks. Great job defending our great nation against treasonous war heroes like Sens. Hagel and Kerry, and the families of war dead who refuse to thank Dear Leader for killing off their wives, husbands, and children. But the enemies of America won't rest. Here's your next mission, if you choose to accept:

Bill Moyer, 73, wears a "Bullshit Protector" flap over his ear while President George W. Bush addresses the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

You know what to do. Get to it.

(From Atrios, where I've been stealing material all day.)

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:50 PM PDT.

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  •  VFW 10281 (4.00)
    Vine Grove, Kentucky

    HA!

  •  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (4.00)
    Yea, you 2 have been on fire all day!

    This picture is priceless.  Lose the VFW, lose support for your war.  

    "In a republic this rule ought to be observed: that the majority should not have the predominant power." - Cicero

    by KOWALSKI on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:53:07 PM PDT

  •  He once tore the tag off his mattress... (4.00)
    ...crossed the street when the light was red... took two pamphlets when the sign CLEARLY said "take one"... pretended to be three months older than he actually was to get the 10% discount at the Early Bird Special at Denny's!!!

    (Not working?)

    HE'S SO GAY!

    •  First it was his TV program, now this!... (4.00)
      Pretzeldent 36%: "Oh that Bill Moyer makes me so dadgum mad!  First it was NOW with Bill Moyer.  I saw to canning his ass from that.  And now he's out there wearing 'Bullshit Protectors' in the VFW Hall?!?!  Dadgummit, Turdblossom!  Swift-boat the bastard!"

      Turdblossom: "Um, Mr. Pretzeldent, sir.  That was Bill Moyers, with an S, who hosted NOW until we canned his ass.  This guy's different.

      Pretzeldent 36%: "Oh... Nevermind."

      Turdblossom: "O'Lielly, this is Turdblossom here and this is on super-secret, double-probation, if-I-give-up-my-source-I'm-a-dead-man, ultra-background --- Bill Moyer, age 73 and Korean Veteran is a pinko, commie, gay, Islam-practicing, librul seeking to undermine the values of Amurka.  Spread the news!"

      Pretzeldent 36%: Heh-heh-heh-heh...

      "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." --Thomas Jefferson

      by frisco on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:15:43 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Jeff, it's even worse than that............ (4.00)
      .....this guy once used the "pictures, descriptions and accounts" of a baseball game - without the commissioner's consent!

           And don't fall for his flimsy excuse that it happened during that long interlude when there was no commissioner, either.

           Maybe we can get John Gibson of FOX to give him "five-in-the-noggin" for his misdeeds.

      "We should pay attention to that man behind the curtain"

      by Ed Tracey on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 05:03:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Where can I get me (4.00)
     . . .  one of those bullshit protectors?  I think we should put this guys face on a T-shirt and make him a star!
  •  Daaaaammmmnnnn! (4.00)
    I want a bullshit protector!
  •  73? (none)
    I guess he's a Korea Vet.  Those guys don't mess around.  
  •  I love that Bullshit Protector! (4.00)
    Where can we get some of those?  3 cheers for Bill Moyer in that picture!
  •  Ohmigawd ~ I want a box of those (4.00)
    to pass out to my friends and on street corners!

    Make the most of yourself, for that is all there is of you..... Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by SallyCat on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:55:15 PM PDT

  •  Best Picture I've seen in days... (4.00)
    I also love this one:

  •  Starting the pool now... (4.00)
    ...how long until Bushco cuts another one of this guy's veteran's benefits?

    Kinda hard to label this guy an America-hating pinko, eh?

    •  kinda hard? (4.00)
      They label more veterans as American-hating pinkos by 9AM than...(having trouble finishing sentence) Limbaugh does all day.

      'In order to learn from your mistakes, you have to recognize that you made them.' - Molly Ivins

      by bobinson on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:00:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Good Point and one not made enough (4.00)
      How come the vets don't realize that this president talks about supporting the troops all the while cutting vet benefits. I am a firm believer that two groups of individuals in this nation need to be well taken care of Vets and Teachers.

      One group protects our rights the other teaches us of our rights.

      Did you hear what the Buddist said to the hot dog vendor? "Make me one with everything."

      by kidshaleen on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 05:57:25 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Awesome! (none)
    That was GREAT!!!!

    Made my day!

    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds - Albert Einstein.

    by GregNYC on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:56:23 PM PDT

  •  He's a dead-ender. (4.00)
    A staff puke.  Oh wait, a combat infantryman badge.  Dammit.

    "In a republic this rule ought to be observed: that the majority should not have the predominant power." - Cicero

    by KOWALSKI on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:56:45 PM PDT

  •  Jeebus Cripes Molly!!! (4.00)
    That is by far the best picture I have seen in at least four years!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want a pair of those too. Can someone teach me quick how to copy this picture so I can blow it up to poster size for Crawford on Friday?

    The more understanding one posesses, the less there is to say and the more there is to do.

    by Alohaleezy on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:56:51 PM PDT

    •  Right-click, save as, and punch it up in Photoshop (none)
      If you don't have the tools, get back to me. I do.

      "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." Dr. ML King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963.

      by bewert on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 05:20:27 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Recently I've found myself thinking. . . (4.00)
    you know, Nixon won twice too.

    George W. Bush -- It's mourning in America.

    by LarryInNYC on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:56:56 PM PDT

    •  bumpersticker material (4.00)
      love the phrase. love the sentiment!

      All extremists are irrational and should be exposed

      by SeanF on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 04:27:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Nixon won (3.75)
      49 states in '72. I remember it well. I was a teenager and hated him. It was fantastic seeing him fall! I think we're in for a repeat. Bush is dragging his party down. He's toast!

      I think the American people--I hope the American-I don't think, let me--I hope the American people trust me.-George W. Bush

      by kitebro on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 04:32:11 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Let's hope the Nixon parallels... (none)
        ...work a little better for us in the long run than they did the first time around.  Nixon's fall helped in part to make possible Reagan's rise.  Which put the hands of many of the same criminals on the levers of government.

        On the other hand, Dick Cheney is no Gerald Ford...

    •  Yep, (3.75)
      and Bush is right about on the same timeline...

      Nixon won in 72, 2 yrs later he was gone. So was his VP, remember?

      That gives Bush about a year... And Cheney should be resigning any day now. ;-)

  •  Why do veterans hate America? n/t (4.00)

    Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. - Thomas Jefferson

    by jorndorff on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:58:11 PM PDT

  •  American Hero (4.00)

    We need more heroes like this man to stand up to the crooks, thieves and liars who are ruining this country.  

    Why do the facts, reality and objective truth hate America and the baby Jesus?

    by WinSmith on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:58:37 PM PDT

  •  © The Canadian Press 2005 (4.00)
    Notice who we have to get our anti-war news from?!

    Oh, MSM how you have failed us! (Sarcastic fake wailing)

    There is a wisdom of the head, and a wisdom of the heart.-Charles Dickens

    by Ranting Roland on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 02:59:48 PM PDT

  •  Priceless photo. (4.00)
    I want a pair of those!  

    One could buy them in bulk and then re-sell as a fundraiser for a website. Could you send money to a candidate (or organization), too, that way?

    Visit my blog Penndit.
    The Republicans' worst enemy is an informed electorate.

    by Newsie8200 on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:00:33 PM PDT

  •  My thoughts: (4.00)
    Greatest. Picture. Ever.

    This has to be put everywhere, and everyone needs a pair of these, both for safety and publicity. Can you imagine getting the majority of the people in that crowd to listen to Bush politely and make him feel special, whilst wearing these BS protectors for the world to see?

    Priceless.

  •  Shouldn't it be ... (4.00)
    a BU*SH** Protector?
  •  THE IMBECILE COWBOY SPEAKETH (4.00)
    1. THAT SENIOR VETERAN GUY ROCKS!!!

    2. Speaking of supporting the War on Terror, why hasn't Bush fired the guy WHO LEAKED A CIA OPERATIVE'S IDENTITY?

    3. BUSH, EVER THE HYPOCRITE, IS CHIDING PROTESTORS FOR HAVING THE SAME BELIEF HE HAS.

    White House Spokesman Trent Duffy, Aug. 23, 2005: "Bush Believes Iraq War Protesters Don't Want U.S. To Win 'War on Terror.'"

    NBC's "Today" show, Aug. 30, 2004:
    MATT LAUER: "Can we win (the War on Terror)?"
    SHRUB: "I DON'T THINK YOU CAN WIN IT. But I think you can create conditions so that the -- those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/31/politics/main639709.shtml

    Retired Gen. Merrill McPeak, former Air Force chief of staff, Aug 30, 2004: "I decided a year ago that we cannot win the war on terror."

  •  throw the "dkos" logo on one... (none)
    ...and you'd have another piece of winning merchandise
  •  awesome (none)
    That's absolutely awesome.

    How about this idea?

    Whereever Bush is speaking, someone shows up with a bunch of those and tries to hand them out to the crowd going in?

    •  Um... (4.00)
      Yeah I suppose.  Except a young Republican posing as a Secret Service agent will show up and threaten to have sharpshooters kill you.

      I'm not making that up.  It actually happened during the 2004 campaign.

  •  Come on! (4.00)
    Everyone knows Bill Moyer hates America!

    Platitudinous speeches before friendly audiences won't calm unsettled minds. DMN

    by sophiebrown on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:04:07 PM PDT

  •  Disgruntled is what they will say. (none)
    He's just a disgruntled crybaby because he's pissed off because hsi VA hospital is being closed. He must be unpatriotic just like Hagel, McCain and Kerry. So what if they went to Vietnam? We all have to do things we don't like. Rush went to rehab, and he didn't like that.
  •  Bill Moyer is a traitor (4.00)
    to our country, he is aiding and abetting the insurgency with his inflammatory piece of cardboard, he is a dupe of moveon.org, he's worse than those who drove the airplanes into those two buildings on 9/11, he is gay, he's an anti-war extremist hippy who is being flaunted by a bored US media and he should be at home with his children.  No wait, since he's gay he should be nowhere near children which he couldn't have anyway since he's so damn gay.

    Oh yes and he should be assassinated.

    "Conservatism makes no poetry, breathes no prayer, has no invention; it is all memory." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by reef the dog on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:04:52 PM PDT

  •  I'll give it a try for them (3.75)
    Veterans of "Foreign" Wars?! What the hell is wrong with good old American Wars?  Why should we outsource our fighting to other countries that then get the benefit of reconstruction aid while we get bupkis?

    That's why the Bush administration is doing its darnedest to start a new Civil War that can be fought RIGHT HERE on American soil.  Why ship expensive bombs and bullets to places where the ragheads and cameljockeys are when we could use them right here on merlot-sucking, Volvo-driving, Air America listening, French brie-chomping overeducated elitist snobs?

    Unless you're some kind of fag commie terrorist you'll support us in this.  That is all.

  •  Wow, (none)
    if I ever have a son I think I'll name him Bill Moyer(s).  Something about having that name seems to insure that you'll turn out to be a truly great American.

    Nero fiddled. Bush bicycles.

    by jazzmaniac on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:08:04 PM PDT

  •  Picture of the week (none)
    This picture shows me why I should/must keep to..

    " support our troops "

  •  A nice companion piece to Armando's post (none)
    ... direcyly below on the "New McCarthyism."

    Problem is, they're going to have to "get" so many folks, I'm not sure they'll have the resources to track us all down and slime us.

  •  Gotta love it (4.00)
    Reminds me of my nights as a boy sitting in the VF hall with my WWII vet grandfather and some of his buddies, a couple of whom were paraplegics or worse. Long drives, smoky air, stale beer, horrifying disfigurement and the automatic bowling machine, the kind with the hockey puck. Oh, yeah, and the flourescent Pabst Blue Ribbon waterfall clock over the bar. Good times.
  •  I want several dozen of them thar (4.00)
    bullshit protectors.  Where do we find 'em?  I'd love to see those fucks try to slime THIS Bill Moyers....

    Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official... ~Theodore Roosevelt

    by caseynm on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:11:30 PM PDT

  •  The cure for what ails you (none)

    "I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Jefferson

    by Michael Alton Gottlieb on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:11:43 PM PDT

  •  Way to go VFW (4.00)
    I got a chill looking at that photo--did hell just freeze over??  Yes, when VFW members begin to recognize the BS being spewed about Iraq, the beginning of the end is in sight.  Where can I get some of them BS protectors?  Bill Moyer, 73, You Rock!!

    Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - Richard Feynman

    by dewtx on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:12:05 PM PDT

  •  I think I just came up with (4.00)
    my suggestion for which miscellaneous product I'd most like to see at the DKos store.
  •  Eerie how his (none)
    like minded predecessors from thirty-five years ago could have been teleported into yesterday's event and fit right in if not for the Nixon button.  Old, fat, white and ugly.

    What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away

    by Marie on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:16:21 PM PDT

  •  Nowhere to hide, is there (4.00)
    Bush and his team are only supposed to speak to hand picked groups that are sure to offer no dissenting views or statements. If he can't be safe speaking to VFW members in Utah, well where can he?

    Practice absurdus interruptus - Support ePluribus Media.

    by Catte Nappe on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:17:53 PM PDT

  •  Surprised the SS didn't haul him out of there (4.00)
    they must have been afraid.  The guy still looks tough enough to take them on!
    •  73 (4.00)
      and he still looks like he'd just as soon tear your head off and shit down your neck as look at you. You don't fuck with guys like that. It's him and his like that have made this a great nation. They understand sacrifice. They understand war, and that it's not an enterprise entered into lightly. They understand things the man speaking only fantasizes about while "getting on with his life". Him and his like are the America that Grover Norquist is waiting patiently for to die off.

      And they've finally heard enough bullshit.

      Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Isaac Asimov

      by justme on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 04:54:20 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  first he ran from service; now he runs from Cindy (4.00)
    "George W. Bush said Tuesday that anti-war protesters such as Cindy Sheehan, who want U.S. troops brought home immediately, are 'advocating a policy that would weaken the United States.'

    In remarks to reporters outside an exclusive resort where he is vacationing..."

    -----------------------------------

    This pretty much sums the whole thing up for me.

    Torture. It's what's for dinars.

    by Joon on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:18:21 PM PDT

  •  More important than the (4.00)
    Bullshit protector He also wears the CIB.

    No Chickenhawk there.

    Mr. Moyer thanks for you service.

  •  I love it!!! (none)
    Where can I get a set of those bullshit protectors?
    •  On second thought!!! (none)
      How about we send a whole bunch of them down to Camp Casey I and II. Wouldn't that make a statement if the MSM showed hundreds of protesters wearing them the next time there a so called confrontation with the wingnuts down there!
  •  n/t (4.00)
    Mr. Moyer better watch out.  He may get stop-lossed.
  •  aWol has some real problems coming down the pike (4.00)
    Crank up the slime machine against plain ordinary folks such as Cindy Sheehan, or this aging vet, and the slime doesn't stick as well. Makes the slimers look bad as well. People who have actually seen war first hand are not always in lockstep with aWol. They'll slime this man at their peril.
  •  Aaaand (none)
    he's French.

    "Conservatism makes no poetry, breathes no prayer, has no invention; it is all memory." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by reef the dog on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:27:25 PM PDT

  •  The liberal AP *LIES*, friends (4.00)
    OBVIOUSLY this is a recycled picture from a speech given by Clinton in 1994. The Michael Moore/MoveOn.org extreme left controlled media is just lying again in order to smear our great nation and to make our veterans look like fools. There is no proof that this was actually taken where AP says it was, and their constant lying is a sign of their immorality and efforts to undermine the heterosexual marriage unit.

    Also, hippies smell.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SATIRESATIRESATIRE ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Have you ever heard the sound of a Nation Rocked to Sleep?

    by JamesC on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:29:23 PM PDT

  •  Take a vet out of a VFW convention? (none)
    I sure hope not.

    It looks to me like this is printed on sticky-note type stuff    just stick on in front of your ears----anybody know a printer who does specialty stuff with sticky notes?    Print right and left ear and sell in package with 3-5 pairs.    DKos symbol?
    Cindy?

    Bring them home. Now.

    •  I'm pretty sure (none)
      cardstock would work fine. The print job would be easy, the cutting wouldn't be too much more of a hassle.
      I'd say, check novelty distributors.

      Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Isaac Asimov

      by justme on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 04:57:26 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Wagon Master! Wagon Master!! (none)
    I'd like to report that the Prezdint's wagon has lost a wheel.

    Yep, it's still rolling,

    No sir, I'm afraid the other three are loose, too.

    No, sir. I can't think of any way to keep him from falling on his ass.

    Naah. Screw it. I'm outta here, YOU stay and pick him up if you want...

    Down, by God, but not out.

    by perro amarillo on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:34:08 PM PDT

  •  No to mention (4.00)
    his war medals are fake, his wife is a hooker, he snowboards, he has a communist website, he is a retired trial lawyer, he worships Satan, and yes he "served" in WWII but only as a staff puke, and did I mention he listens to Barbra Streisand?

    "Conservatism makes no poetry, breathes no prayer, has no invention; it is all memory." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by reef the dog on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:35:11 PM PDT

  •  Vacation from a vacation? (none)
    If you're on vacation and you go on vacaction from there only to return there and vacation some more, what's that called? A vacation squared? A vacation within a vacation?

    I call it "running away from Cindy Sheehan". That's what it's called. She has you pinned in your Texas compound like an elected David Koresh? Helicopter your ass to Idaho, do some fly-fishing, and accuse people with sons who died in your little war of not opposing terrorism.

  •  BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH (4.00)
    HAHhAHHAAhhahahHAhAH

    /inhale

    HAHHAAHAHAHOHOOHOHOHOHOHOHOH

    Clearly an Al Qaeda sympathizer.

    I wish, however, we hadn't gotten to this point.  Sigh.

    •  Clever (none)
      I bet the conservatives will start oh-so-cleverly wearing things like this when liberals speak - or "lie protector" or "islamofascism protector" or somesuch.

      About as quick-witted as retorting, "You are, too!" to an insult. And hence, totally predictable.

  •  Great idea (none)
    but in todays climate it would have to be 10ft thick and made of something very, very soundproof.

    'Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it'. - GBS

    by stevej on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:43:09 PM PDT

  •  These are getting popular (4.00)
    in Germany, hey why not here?

    "Conservatism makes no poetry, breathes no prayer, has no invention; it is all memory." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by reef the dog on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 03:47:25 PM PDT

  •  It's obvious this guy... (none)
    is wearing this to get past the protesters without hearing their bullshit //wingnut mode//
  •  I almost cried. (4.00)
    So simple. Just sitting there quietly practicing democracy. I am guessing he has heard the talking points and platitudes before.

    From one Bill to another, ROCK ON!

  •  Cooties (none)
    The Bushit Protector says "Cooties" on it and has a picture of a bug.  What's up with that?  
  •  They actually work (none)
    this guy didn't here a sound during Bush's entire speech.
  •  Omigosh! (4.00)
    What a cute codger!

    Ballsy, too. Definitely got more cajones than the flatulent freepers.

  •  Flood the market! (none)
    Let's send a a couple hundred of these BS protectors to every VFW post in the country. Also send thousands to college Democrats/Progressives, Gold Star moms, and peace activists everywhere.

    This makes the perfect silent protest. The GOP spin machine can't twist this one and the MSM can only ignore a great visual for so long.

    Let's do this NOW!

    One day we ALL will know the truth about the 2000 presidential election. God help us all.

    by CocoaLove on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 04:12:32 PM PDT

  •  Purple Heart lady defense (none)
    <sarcasm on> My g*d this is worse than the Purple Heart lady at the Republican Convention, <multiline diatribe on how unpatriotic this man is versus the patriotic Republican lady>. <sarcasm off>
  •  The question the Right will ask now is: (none)
    Why does Bill Moyer hate America?
  •  Then again... (none)
    maybe there is a God after all.

    Thank you, Kos, for bringing our attention to the best photo I've seen in years.

    I adore Bill Moyer's indomitable spirit. What a hero!

  •  Kick Chickenhawk butt (none)
    This gentleman looks like he could still kick some Chickenhawk butt. Thank you Mr. Moyer.
  •  Thanks, Sarge (4.00)
    if a veteran E-7 with a Combat Infantry Badge is doing this, the shit may finally be starting to hit the fan . . .

    "I'm not a member of an organized political party - I'm a Democrat." Will Rogers

    by mississippi scott on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 04:42:17 PM PDT

  •  That guy (4.00)
    is the most beautiful thing I've seen. Ever. Honest. I don't get out much.  Too many scary republicans in the neighborhood.  We should start a Bill Moyer fanclub.  That guy is a stud.  Think about it, he did that with Bush's paranoid people in the room and he stood there loud and proud.  Now that's what I call a patriot!

    "This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around!"

    by demkat620 on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 04:51:45 PM PDT

  •  GARY QUALLS TAKES A STROLL THROUGH THE MUD (4.00)
    ~GARY QUALLS OF "FORT QUALLS" BUMBLES THROUGH VINDICTIVE SHEEHAN SMEAR.
    ~KEITH OLBERMANN CALLS HIM ON IT.

    On MSNBC's "Countdown" Monday night, Gary Qualls, Cindy Sheehan's counterpart at the new, pro-war "Fort Qualls" down the road from her, bumbled Homer Simpson-like through a smear against Sheehan.  He slimed her for "forsaking" her family while she's in Crawford:

    QUALL: "I`m not out here all the time...I stay with my family. I haven`t forsaken them. I will not abandon them...I have not left halfway across the country like Ms. Sheehan has, and she has forsaken her own family. I cannot do that...My priorities and responsibilities as a parent are important."

    Olbermann didn't think much of Quall's sliming.
    OLBERMANN: "To be fair to her, sir, I mean, her surviving kids are adults, and she went home last week to take care of her mother, who had a stroke. Is that fair of you to say that about her?"

    QUALL: (Quall is speechless, and after an embarrassingly long pause, Qualls changes subjects and goes on to make the claim that "Everybody else in her family, they do not even support what she is doing," which is yet another fabrication.)

    Funny thing is, Qualls had hugged and chatted with Sheehan a week earlier, just days before the GOP got hold of him.  Here's the photos:
    http://donkeyod.blogspot.com/2005_08_07_donkeyod_archive.html

    For more on Quall's duplicity and political motivations:
    http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2005/08/22/cold-qualls-two

    If the Right was looking for an honest, articulate and persuasive mouthpiece to foil Sheehan, they have failed miserably on all counts.  

    •  I'm sorry...I just need a little rant (none)
      Fort Qualls vs. Camp Casey.

      Hmmm...Cindy chose to use her son's FIRST name.  It's not about the Sheehan family, it's just about Casey.  It's an intimate statement and tribute to her son.  "Camp" implies setting up a residence for a while to wait or sit vigil.

      Gary Qualls uses his family's last name, which signifies his presence as much as his son's memory.  He uses the term "Fort" to name his stand.  That term implies it is a defensive outpost in wartime.  

      Very telling differences.

  •  I'm so proud right now (none)
    Bill Moyer, 73... American hero.

    These Vets have already sacrificed so much. We are losing our WW2 Vets at a rate of 1500+ per day.

    I am literally ashamed that we need them to get us out of this mess of a war... Their voices do more damage than 1000 of mine. Moms and Dads, Vets and Soldiers are the people who are going to save us from these criminals...

  •  OK, we all want these things... (none)
    And SOMEBODY here knows a printer, damnit. GET US SOME BULLSHIT PROTECTORS!!!!!
  •  Kos, that pic is priceless! (none)
    Maybe we could get Dood to do a AmEx-type riff on it: Cost of enlisting: nothing Cost of fighting: a couple of amputations Cost of coming home: lost job, lost house  Cost of a Bullshit Protector: priceless.

    Or something like that. Awesome pickup.

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." Dr. ML King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963.

    by bewert on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 05:11:45 PM PDT

  •  Rovian Set Up? (none)
    What are the chances that this was taken outside the VFW hall, and was meant as protection for the protestors as someone suggested. The background suggests outdoors. Did Bush speak outdoors?

    If it really is a response to Bush's bullshit, then it's the best news we've had in a long while.

    However, I've been elated only to be dashed by the next news cycle one too many times to pin much hope on a single photo and a single caption. Remember - this is the MSM we're talking about. The captioner might not have a friggin' clue what the context of the photo was. All we need is for Bill Moyer to state loudly and proudly how much he supports the prez and how he picked up the earmuffs as part of an effort to piss off the extremist protestors.

    I hope I'm wrong.

    Surely there is more information on the source of the cardboard muffs. They look mass produced. Is anyone "liberal" claiming responsibility?

  •  God, I know a lot of guys like him (none)
    My dad has coffee with some of them every morning while they decide how to run the country that day. None of them ever bought into Bush's war.

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 05:14:17 PM PDT

  •  We should press the attack (none)
    A couple of quotes from the Civil War general Grant come to mind. The first I remember exaclty, the second I will have to paraphrase:
    1. "In every battle there comes a time when both sides consider themselves beaten, then he who continues the attack wins."
    2. "I am tired of hearing what Bobby Lee is going to do to us. It is time for us to move forward and let him worry about what we are going to do to him."

    The first is just Grant's general philosophy. The second was made shortly after he launched his campaign in nothern Virginia, when his staff was all afraid of what the master of war, Lee, would do to the Union army. Grant's solution of course was to attack and push on.

    My point? We cannot afford to just sit still anymore. We must press the attack on the neo-con, neo-liberal, neo-fascists who are destroying our country. I believe that the Democrat leaders are suffering from a type of learned helplessness and are so afraid that they do not know what to do. It is time to attack and defend against these guys.

  •  Google search -- nada (none)
    I searched for "bullshit protector" and "cooties bullshit protector".  Nothing came up in the google search.

    I'll do a search through my Lillian Vernon catalog.

    I'm a blue drop in a red bucket.

    by blue drop on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 05:16:58 PM PDT

  •  There have been (4.00)
    a couple of posts about the "Secret Service" or whomever, escorting Mr. Moyer from the building. Man, I'd have loved to see them try. Bounce a Combat vet from a VFW? That'll get a reaction. The phrase "We're going to need a bigger boat" comes to mind. While I don't expect to see this picture on the front page, the forceful mass ejection-by-the-ear of Secret Service personnel while being called "sonny" would be tough for even our sorry-assed corporate-whore media to smother.

    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Isaac Asimov

    by justme on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 05:21:02 PM PDT

    •  I think you are correct (none)
      The image of them trying to eject this 73 year old Vet with all those pins on his hat from a VFW meeting would have been a public relations disaster. I also think that his buddies would have come to his aid, and then things would really get interesting. This kind of photo is going to hard for aWol to live down. Doesn't matter what anyone says.
  •  How sad (none)
    I couldn't find any mention of this photo from the American press.  Only the Canadian press covered it.

    Of course, there was wall to wall coverage of the purple finger BS from the SOTU.

    "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by sgilman on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 05:24:53 PM PDT

  •  Another pic of this with Bush fuzzy in it (none)
    Link

    Link picked up at DU. The photo isn't cropped quite as tightly as the one here.

  •  Similar sentiments posted above, but (none)
    when you start losing the good ol' boys from Kentucky, you're in trouble.

    If this photo is as it appears, Bush is in a serious downward spiral.

  •  Cons are uneasy (4.00)
    NRO's concern rises:
    Again and again during the Bush presidency - and yesterday most recently - the president will agree to give what is advertised in advance as a major speech. An important venue will be chosen. A crowd of thousands will be gathered. The networks will all be invited. And after these elaborate preparations, the president says ... nothing that he has not said a hundred times before.
    •  Interesting (none)
      One of the letter writers... a San Francisco guy writes...

      "At this point I find myself faced with a political choice between Democrats who don't want to prosecute the war at all, and Republicans who are prosecuting it so poorly that we might be better off doing nothing. I voted for Bush in November primarily on national security grounds; much of the remainder of his agenda I dislike. If he botches the war, he's got nothing. And he's botching it."

      Further evidence of how we lost the 2004 election even against a President who was wildly unpopular on the domestic front.  National Security.

      We need more Clark, less Kerry.

  •  You just can't explain it? (none)
    Why does it take our senior generation to tell us like it is. How can anyone make a more profound statement than that of Mr. Moyer. I can only guess that with age, comes the innate ability to know who is really the cause of that "clusterf***" called Iraq.

    I just surprised Bush's "Republican" Guard did haul Mr. Moyer out the Salt Palace prior to W's little speech.

    •  Older folks (4.00)
      have always been allowed to speak their minds without being browbeaten for lack of social and political grace. That's the only reason I want to grow old. I can't wait to do the same.

      To be fair, millions of Americans have been indicating that they think Bush spouts bullshit on every occasion. Most of us were just called "shrill" for our effort. This guy, though, this guy's put his own ass in the line of fire in three wars. Moyer's always had the right to call "bullshit" as an American, but his service to this nation earns him the right to call "bullshit" as a Veteran too.

  •  speaking of Camp Casey (none)
    FreeRepublic is sponsoring a HUGE Anti-Sheehan protest this Saturday at Camp Casey.    bus loads are coming in.   Cindy needs support

    Anyone that can get there this weekend, Please go for support and for numbers.

    Above all things, be careful.    These are the hardcore of the hardcore Right Wing Fanatics, and nothing is beyond them.  

    (This picture is fantastic.   Like someone said, WHY are we seeing it only in a Canadian paper?   US media sources are all pussies.)

  •  now if we could only get 600 million of those (none)
    installed across this country.
  •  That (none)
    picture should win a Pulitzer.

    It's to good to be true.

    GWB will pry my 20 year old son from my cold dead fingers.

    by Momagainstthedraft on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 06:28:29 PM PDT

  •  Take notes, not ear plugs (none)
    Sound is just one avenue of seduction.  If your eyes are open, they can get you that way, too.  What about all those redwhiteandblue flags crowded around you?  What about that majestic, presidential-looking guy on the stage, with his humble-yet-inspired smile, surrounded by brave-looking soldiers?  How brave and noble it all looks, with all those pretty people smiling at the speaker!  Every aspect of a political speech is part of a holistic, overall process of persuasion, each bit meticulously crafted to seduce you.  And it will.  They're aiming at your hindbrain, not your cortex.

    Even after having studied the sleazier aspects of persuasion, I sometimes find myself fending off the seduction by muttering a little mantra to myself:

    "You dirty, sneaky motherfuckers..."  It helps, a little.

    Sadly, if you bombard almost any human with this barrage of persuasion, eventually he'll find himself shouting support for a two-bit grifter--that's how skilled are today's Madison Avenue imagemeisters.  More important, refusing to listen to Bush is not the best way to defeat his deceptions, because when political decisions are made, who wins is determined by who best marshalls all the magic.  There is no shortcut to becominng a savvy interpreter of other people's rhetoric.  You have to do the heavy lifting and make your brain stronger.

    On the other hand, there is one tool...

    You know what scares a sleezeball politician more than anything?  An audience full of people with yellow pads, taking notes.  Why?  Accountability.  The best bullshit protector is a general attitude of thoughtful skepticism.  Take notes.  Then after the speech, after all that rousing music and imagery has worn off, check out the facts on the topics you noted.  This is the real value of having a world-wide web of information.  You may be shocked at how ruthlessly the facts were manipulated.  

    Or maybe not.  Welcome to the jungle, baby...

    It also helps to learn how people like Bush (and many, many others) seek to persuade you by abusing the tools of rhetoric.

    What tools?  Google sites that describe the basic forms of propaganda.  You'll be amazed and horrified how often that bag of tricks is used, over and over by politicians and the "mainstream media."  It's like suddenly discovering that you've been living in a public urinal.  And everybody's been pissing on your head.

    Finally, recognize that any time you sense that a speaker is being unfair, it's probably because you sense they're being dishonest.  Usually the dishonesty takes the form of either a flat out lie, pretending something bogus is true, or abusing the opposition.  Lying, pretending and abusing.  Pretty much sums up Bill O'Rielly, doesn't it?  

    What really foils a propagandist is to be publicly confronted and condemned for their dishonesty, pretense and abuse.  For all their tricks, guys like Bush and O'Rielly are always telling flat out lies, pushing false realities, and abusing everybody within earshot.  Their careers depend entirely on people NOT checking on their facts for accuracy, which is why they try so very hard to persuade their sheeple to take them at their word and NOT be skeptical.

    So maybe the best tool for foiling Bush and his ilk is not a pair of ear plugs, but a whole bunch of yellow pads.  

    Ignorance is weakness; Informed is fore-armed.

    •  So basically, they're con artists (none)
      Counting on people who don't want to embarrass others, don't want to be yelled at, don't want a fight over nothing.

      Ever noticed how much rethugs YELL? Even when there's absolutely no reason? "Looks like rain, doesn't it?" "NO, THE SKY IS BLUE!!"

      Well, we need to start yelling back.

      "It's blue on your SCREENSAVER - look outside for a change!"

  •  How about (none)
    some big black Mickey Mouse ears saying Truth Receivers and wear them above the Bullshit Protectors.
  •  Download and print your own for FREE! (none)
    Just added a Dem friendly version on my wevsite based on the bullshit protector shown in the photo:

    Click above to go to the download page (complete with instructions) and get yours now.

    cheers,

    Mitch Gore

    Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

    by Lestatdelc on Tue Aug 23, 2005 at 07:36:02 PM PDT

  •  Have some fun with Bush's speech to the VFW! (none)
    Subtitute "Republicans" for "Our enemies" and it suddenly makes a whole lotta sense.  Try it!

    Our enemies have no regard for human life. They're trying to hijack a great religion to justify a dark vision that rejects freedom and tolerance and dissent. They have a strategy, and part of that strategy is they're trying to shake our will. They kill the innocent. They kill women and children, knowing that the images of their brutality will horrify civilized peoples. Their goal is to drive nations into retreat so they can topple governments across the Middle East, establish Taliban-like regimes, and turn that region into a launching pad for more attacks against our people. In all their objectives, our enemies are trying to intimidate America and the free world. And in all their objectives, they will fail.

  •  ACTION ALERT! ACTION ALERT! ACTION ALERT! (none)
    Howdy, folks.  You may be aware of Monday's poll that reveals Bush's approval rating to have dropped to 36% from the 42% he garnered in July.  Not only is this a new low for him, it's lower than the 39% Nixon received in 1973 during the height of Watergate!  But did you hear about this in your local paper or news broadcast?  Probably not, since it has nothing to do with Natalee Holloway or Paris Hilton.  It simply hasn't registered with the mainstream media yet.

    BUT WE CAN FIX THAT!  Listed below are the contact addresses for 35 major newspapers and news magazines.  PLEASE COPY-AND-PASTE THESE INTO AN E-MAIL URGING THESE PUBLICATIONS TO REPORT ON THIS DRAMATIC DEVELOPMENT.  You should include a brief message, or you might choose to paste the following:
    ******************
    On Monday, American Research Group, a reputable polling firm established in 1985, released a new poll of 1,100 Americans which pegs President Bush's approval rating at 36%, having dropped from 42% in July, revealing a major shift over the past month (link 1).  Amazingly, Bush's 36% rating falls below the 39% Richard Nixon garnered in July 1973 during the Watergate scandal (link 2).  I urge your publication to report on this highly newsworthy development as an important service to your readers.  Thank you.  
    http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/
    http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2005/08/08/opinion/09opart.1.ready.html
    ******************
    PLEASE NOTE: I'd suggest sending the e-mail to yourself, inserting the newspaper addresses in the "Blind/BCC" box.  Add no attachments since newspaper editors will not open them.  Include commas between e-mail addresses.  And your e-mail service might allow no more than 10-20 recipients per message, so you may have to send up to three e-mails.  
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACTIVISM!!!  

    letters@usnews.com, letters@time.com, letters@newsweek.com, letters@uniontrib.com, letters@sfchronicle.com, letters@latimes.com,
    letters@washpost.com, wsj.ltrs@wsj.com, letters@newsday.com,
    feedback@dallasnews.com, letters@suntimes.com, letter@globe.com, newstips@arizonarepublic.com, eletters@starledger.com, letters@freepress.com,
    HeraldEd@herald.com, letters@RockyMountainNews.com, publiceditor@baltsun.com,
    letters@ocregister.com, opinion@sacbee.com, letters@mercurynews.com,
    letterstotheeditor@bostonherald.com, jsedit@journalsentinel.com,
    openforum@denverpost.com,
    letters@dispatch.com, opinion@seattletimes.com,
    letters@post-dispatch.com, letters@kcstar.com,
    newsroom@star-telegram.com, citydesk@express-news.net,
    news@owh.com, letters@courant.com, letters@pilotonline.com, letters@reviewjournal.com, citydesk@chron.com,

    •  Before that happens, (none)
      there will be a new poll with higher numbers for Bush. The media will come to his rescue. They always do. Will it be ABC and or Gallup. Maybe Newsweek. It always happens. However, Bush is still in a very bad way. Wait a couple of days. Time will tell.

      I think the American people--I hope the American-I don't think, let me--I hope the American people trust me.-George W. Bush

      by kitebro on Wed Aug 24, 2005 at 04:27:05 AM PDT

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