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""I've been here over 30 years and I've never seen this level of reduction, said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of the problem is it's not so much the reduction, it's the drastic reduction in one fiscal year. It's the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the hardest thing to adapt to. There is an economic ripple effect, too. The cuts mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now.""


Originally posted to MsLibrarian on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 11:08 AM PDT.

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  •  Good catch (3.41)
    you may want to make that web address an actual link.

    "It's ok to be stupid if everybody else is."-Ms. Lady Evans by Redd Kross

    by mkf on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 11:10:31 AM PDT

  •  Here's your (4.00)

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 11:16:32 AM PDT

  •  Bush (none)
    is making political hay by declaring early disaster status to Louisiana and Mississippi. This needs to be reported right along side that, plus the location of the various National Guard units from those states.  It is just wonderful that these things can be found and gotten out in the open.
    •  Who's got the chocolate ration quote (none)
      from 1984?  Tres apropos
    •  Declaring State of Emergency (4.00)
      enables the relief effort to get going and frees up resources etc. Think this was requested by the states.

      Not defending Bush - his address was absolutely appalling and will come back to haunt him.

      Would also be a bit wary of making political capital out of this at this stage.

      'Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it'. - GBS

      by stevej on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 12:33:24 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  LA Gov (Dem) Agrees (none)
        I happened to be channel surfing last night and caught the governor of Louisiana (women Democrat) being interviewed live on CNN. She announced Bush's early disaster proclamation and said she was grateful for it.

        I know it's hard to believe (I certainly have trouble with it), but on rare occasion Bush may actually do something for the benefit of the country without calculating the politics first. And it shows the state he has driven the country to that we have to make that statement.

        It is not the responsibility of the state to help its citizens get into heaven nor to save them from hell.

        by Dan K on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 03:22:56 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Even so... (4.00)
    ...such research and works would have been too little, too late for this storm.  
    •  Yes, but think how it will sound and (3.33)
      its a great example of how wasting money in Iraq is not making the US safer. Everybody knew that a storm like this could come along, this year or next or in five years when the study and spending could have helped. In addition its another great example of the Bush administration being wrong and shortsited again. However I doubt it will get much media play, instead we'll see Dear LEader on his helicopter tour, handing out bottles of water and looking leader-like whne federal programs that Republicans hate give out money to hurricane victems.
  •  excellent find (none)
    great source of information


    free the information

    by freelixir on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 11:25:08 AM PDT

  •  MsLibrarian, (none)
    Could you plug this diary?

    BTW, great diary!!!

  •  careful though, this is more about Congress (4.00)
    Of course, this only makes it better, that this is the Republican Congress, supposed to be securing America, along with the Bush Administration "not making it a priority".

    They'll probably tell us that noone could have seen this coming, like 9-11.  Maybe they're right, but then why would Rome plan against suicidal hijackings, and why would local officials draw up plans to examine how to protect against a CAT-5?

    Seems like someone was able to imagine such things, and even give them priority.

    Congress is setting the Corps budget.

    The House of Representatives wants to cut the New Orleans district budget 21 percent to $272.4 million in 2006, down from $343.5 million in 2005. The House figure is about $20 million lower than the president's suggested $290.7 million budget.

    It's now up to the Senate. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-New Orleans, is making no promises.

    It's going to be very tough, Landrieu said. The House was not able to add back this money ... but hopefully we can rally in the Senate and get some of this money back.

    Landrieu said the Bush administration is not making Corps of Engineers funding a priority.

    I think it's extremely shortsighted, Landrieu said. When the Corps of Engineers' budget is cut, Louisiana bleeds. These projects are literally life-and-death projects to the people of south Louisiana and they are (of) vital economic interest to the entire nation.

    free the information

    by freelixir on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 11:28:59 AM PDT

    •  don't kid yourself... (4.00)
      As Landrieu notes, the Bush administration and the Republican Congress work hand in glove. What the administration wants, they get. If Bush wanted to do something about it, he could have vetoed it. Given that he has vetoed precisely nothing, I think it's clear where he stands.
      •  fair enough (none)
        I still think that Congress should be largely responsible for itself, no matter who is president.  That's just my take on our style of democracy, and against the idea that we need a premier to get anything done.

        Of course, I realize that Bush could have had it if he wanted it, and that's why I included him with Congress, but ultimately it's much better to blame this primarily on Congress, Republican led, because we have to win that back first.  Bush should be criticized as well, but not primarily.  At least IMO.

        free the information

        by freelixir on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 05:17:47 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Have these cuts taken effect yet? (none)
    The 2006 federal fiscal year starts October 1st. It's a pretty stupid move, regardless.
  •  Maybe not these cuts (none)
    but the ones he made to the 2001 budget certainly have. I wish we could find out more about these cuts.
  •  Not a dime's worth of difference? (4.00)
    This is just another, potentially catastrophic, example of why it's important to turn out the Democratic vote.

    Politics. It's not just for theorists anymore.

    Down, by God, but not out.

    by perro amarillo on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 11:50:45 AM PDT

  •  Meanwhile, in Iraq (4.00)

    #674 - Emergency Assistance for Flooding -- $10,000,000. Ministry of Water Resources (MoWR). Climatic forecast indicate a strong possibility of flooding due to unusually high flows in the Tigris and Euphrates from Turkey and Syria. The potential for flooding will be high through July. Four seasons of drought and reduced river flows have resulted in weakened dykes and levees along the rivers and tributaries. Funding is required to meet emerging flood emergencies to repair levees and pay claims for flood damage. CPA MoWR noted that this was to be an contingency fund drawn upon only in the case of a flooding emergency. CPA General Counsel asked if it was proper for MoWR to be honoring claims. MoWR stated precedent for these claims. However, several ministries were exploring the forming of an organization, like the US Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to deal with disaster mitigation across the board. The Iraqi MoF stated that funds could be made available within the 2004 budget by delaying other capital. projects, if necessity arose. The Iraqi MoPDC opposed taking funds for approved capital projects for this proposal. The UK representative asked if there were plans to repair levees before emergencies arose. CPA MoWR stated that the budget did not contain funding for levee repairs. The Chair suggested an amended motion for a smaller amount to cover near-term contingencies. A motion was introduced to approve the proposal at a reduced level of $3,000,000.

  •  my apologies in advance (none)
    But now that this diary is safely in the Recommended area, I've got a take on Katrina and the imminent derailing of our economy (related not just oil, but a lot), over here.

    Normally, I wouldn't descend to this kind of promotion, but there's some good stuff in there, and even better stuff from the contributions in the commment section (and, it's on the verge of either dropping out of sight or getting a little longer shelf life in the Recommended section - pretty close right now).

    Peace, and good luck to everyone in the path of Katrina.  Can you believe this thing might go Cat-5?

    free the information

    by freelixir on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 12:34:52 PM PDT

  •  evacuation troubles (4.00)
    I wonder how much these and other cuts - not to mention shelving ways to deal with a Cat 5 storm - have effected the efficiency of the actual evacuation? I'm watching the various cable news stations, and by all accounts the evacuation seems very, very confused, with officers directing people one way on highways, only for those people to be sent back the other way once they try it. Looks like a lot of folks going nowhere fast. I realize these things are always a little slow and challenging, but correspondents are claiming to have heard from many officers that they just aren't sure where people should drive.

    It must be very frustrating and frightening.

  •  I wonder if cuts (4.00)
    are happening in his brother's state of Florida?

    "Getting on with my life means a life without my dear, sweet boy. I wish a little bike ride could help me get on with my life." Cindy Sheehan

    by Dunbar on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 12:57:01 PM PDT

  •  40% of Mississippi National Guard (4.00)
    is in Iraq or Afghanistan according to a report on MPB (Mississippi Public Broadcasting) heard earlier today.
  •  Clinton's Disaster Mitigation Program (4.00)
    I posted this comment over at Hunter's new Katrina diary mainly because I wanted more people to see it, even though it's really more appropriate here.

    The information has to do with Bush's trashing of Clinton's program for disaster preparedness. I wasn't even aware that Bush had done this. Now this disaster will be worse than it has to be.

    •  Terre, great link! (none)
      Was this part of a Clinton proposal totaling $15 billion over 5 years? I thought I saw that somewhere earlier.  And Bush rescinded it in 2001?
      •  I have no idea Phil (none)
        I haven't done any further research on it, as I'm pretty much glued to the TV, and then popping in to dKos during commercial breaks.

        It certainly is an important story to follow-up on.

    •  Bush 2 Like Bush 1 (none)
      Remember the Loma Prieta earethquake, on George the First's watch? In the aftermath, it was revealed that the Bush administration had cut FEMA funds and put a hack in charge, the result being that FEMA was unprepared to help the Bay Area. I think Hurricane Andrew was another instance of the same.

      IIRC, this was a contributing factor to Bush's defeat in 1992. Bush 2 does not have to worry about that, but the rest of the GOP does.

      It is not the responsibility of the state to help its citizens get into heaven nor to save them from hell.

      by Dan K on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 03:28:23 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I love New Orleans but.... (3.00)
    Why is it always the Federal Government's responsibility?  If the state of Louisana knew these cuts were made what did they as residents do?  

    I realize this is not popular however, everyone knows New Orleans is below sea level.  Just as everyone who lives on a coast knows Hurricanes do happen.  Just as I know living in Ohio Tornados happen.

    Given Congress has no problem passing pork to build bridges into Alaska, there is obviously money that could have been better spent.

    As much as I am not a fan of Bush, I don't see how this one can be layed at his door.  

    •  first... (4.00)
      Given the oil situation we've discussed on here already, I'd say that protecting New Orleans against hurricanes is definitely a national issue, maybe even a national security issue. Not to mention the vast potential for loss of life.

      I'll leave you with this quote, from one of the many articles I found on this (below, in my other post):

      "The earthquake community gets over $100 million a year for research from the federal government through the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program that was started in the 1970s, while the federal investment for hurricane and wind damage is only less than $5 million -- even though hurricanes cause more dollar damage and kill far more people year in and year out than earthquakes do," said Marc Levitan, director of the LSU Hurricane Center.
    •  Why Save NO? The City is nearly 300 Years Old... (4.00)
      1. The City is Nearly 300 years old
      2. Nearly Half a million people live there
      3. It is the third largest shipping port in the world supporting hundereds of thousands of workers all around the area
      4. They have EXCELLENT FOOD AND FUN
      5. The city is as much a part of America as any other part of the country
      6. The people who live there pay federal taxes too and they deserve to get a return on investment as much as any of us
      7. This kind of thing is what tax money really is for - to protect EVERYONE - Tax money contrary to popular belief is not collected to hand over the Halliburton for nothin in return for the people of the United States.

      The cuts in the budget for this and so many other worth-while projects are directly related to a two-fold attitude at BushCo - Heartlessness and Greed.
      •  Reason #5 (4.00)
        is enough - it is part of America, and therefore part of our collective responsibility to each other. We are supposed to be the United States, after all.

        It is not the responsibility of the state to help its citizens get into heaven nor to save them from hell.

        by Dan K on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 03:30:07 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  nice find (4.00)
    Here are some more links, all from the LSU Hurricane Center; no doubt there's lots of other good information there. You might want to save these locally or mirror them. :(

    LSU taps supercomputer in hurricane study - Researcher says lack of funding a problem

    New Orleans' growing danger - Wetlands loss leaves city a hurricane hit away from disaster.

    KEEPING ITS HEAD ABOVE WATER - New Orleans faces doomsday scenario


  •  To those who don't get it (4.00)
    This is an example of how Bush's policies affect real people. This is yet more evidence that Bush's wreckless policies are endangering Americans on a daily basis. When Bush flies in Lousiana to pretend to be their saviour let's make sure every person in the state is aware that he didn't care about them until it made for a good photo op. Mission accomplished!
    •  Real leaders work hard to prevent disasters (none)
      They don't just fly in for the photo op.

      This applies to Bush on 9/11 as well.

      "Working" to Bush means rallying the Republican base on some campaign stop or another, while his policy team leads the country off a cliff.

  •  no citizen left behind? (none)

    Thousands of people who could not evacuate New Orleans wait outside the Louisiana Superdome to be let in for shelter from Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans August 28, 2005. Authorities in New Orleans ordered hundreds of thousands of residents to flee on Sunday as Hurricane Katrina strengthened into a rare top-ranked storm and barreled towards the vulnerable U.S. Gulf Coast city. REUTERS/Rick Wilking

  •  everything is about ideology for Bush (4.00)
    They cut the hurricane funding to Louisiana in an attempt to hurt Senator Mary Landrieu and Governor Kathleen Blanco.  Both are Democrats and although Landrieu tries to work with the Bush Administration sometimes to please her conservative constituency Rs still dislike her.

    They closed the Naval Air Station in Brunswick Maine to hurt Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins.  Both Republicans, but they vote with the Dems at embarassing times.

    They "saved" Ellsworth AFB in South Dakota to help prop up their sockpuppet John Thune.  If Daschle were still in office you know they would have closed that base.

    Everything RoveCo does proves they don't care about ordinary people.  They help their buddies and hurt their enemies and that is 100% of what their politics are about.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.

    by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Aug 28, 2005 at 04:03:42 PM PDT

  •  Flood Control area hardest hit by cuts (none)
    One of the hardest-hit areas of the New Orleans district's budget is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes. SELA's budget is being drained from $36.5 million awarded in 2005 to $10.4 million suggested for 2006 by the House of Representatives and the president.
  •  We flooded New Orleans (none)
    Here's a link to an interesting article about how our levee system contributed to the set-up for the disaster that's about to happen in New Orleans (the mass flooding). Obvioulsy Bush has nothing to do with this directly, it's more our narrow ideas as a society about how to "control" mother nature.

  •  This administration is evil (none)
    The President and Congress need to get up in front of the Nation...and Louisiana and tell them why they think the uber wealthy need tax cuts more than Louisiana needs hurricane protection.

    They are just plain evil.

    I'm not going anywhere. I'm standing up, which is how one speaks in opposition in a civilized world. - Ainsley Hayes

    by jillian on Mon Aug 29, 2005 at 12:55:08 AM PDT

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