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It Was the Oil, Stupid

The Peaceful Occupation of Crawford - Day 25

A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Cindy Sheehan

"If Zarqawi and bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks," Bush said. "They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions. They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over the United States and our coalition." (George Bush, August 30, 2005 in San Diego.)

So it is official, Casey had his blood shed in Iraq for OIL. He died so we could pay over 3.00/gallon for gas. Like I suspected all along, my dear, sweet son: almost 1900 others; and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis died so the oil fields wouldn't "fall into the hands of terrorists" and so George and his immoral band of greedy robber barons could become wealthier. Like I have said all along: how can these people sleep at night and how can they choke down their food knowing it is purchased off of the flesh and blood of others? We have found our "Noble Cause." And it is OIL. This man and his handlers need to be stopped.

Well, George and I are leaving Crawford today. George is finished playing golf and telling his fables in San Diego, so he will be heading to Louisiana to see the devastation that his environmental policies and his killing policies have caused. Recovery would be easier and much quicker if almost ½ of the three states involved National Guard were not in Iraq. All of the National Guard's equipment is in Iraq also. Plus, with the 2 billion dollars a week that the private contractors are siphoning from our treasury, how are we going to pay for helping our own citizens in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama? And, should I dare say "global warming?" and be branded as a "conspiracy theorist" on top of everything else the reich-wingers say about me.

We are now packing up Camp Casey and leaving Crawford and heading to George's place of employment. He wouldn't talk to us, his employers, while we were here to give him his "job evaluation," so we must go to him to have our little chat.

I just want to thank a few people and groups for their support, help, and love while we have been here in Crawford. So many people made the Camp Casey experience possible and so successful. If I miss someone, I am so sorry: that is the difficult thing about thanking people. I love you all, even if I don't remember to thank you!!

My sister: Dede Miller: My kids' second mom who is always by my side and supports me 100% in whatever I do. My cause is her cause, and I couldn't do what I do without her.

Carly, Andy, and Janey: Who would love to see more of their mom, but who understand that we are trying to save their future by what we do. I love you guys, and I will see you very, very soon (yea!!) I couldn't do what I do without their love and support.

The Crawford Peace House: I got an email from Hadi Jawad the day that I decided to come and camp in Crawford and he pledged the help and support of the Peace House. At that time, they only had a few bucks in their checking account and the phone was turned off. Now, thanks to America, they have been able to keep Camp Casey going and they will be able to continue their good works indefinitely. Thanks to John Wolf who had the vision for peace in Crawford and I think that Camp Casey was a fulfillment of his vision. They are going to make a garden and call it "The Casey Sheehan Memorial Peace Garden." What a tribute to my son.

Code Pink: Jodie Evans and Tiffany and Alicia were the first ones here on Monday 08/08 to jump in and save me from going crazy and hopping on one of the trains that runs past the Peace House and pulling an "Agatha Christie." Code Pink also worked tirelessly (and I mean tirelessly) outside of Camp Casey.

MoveOn: For organizing the highly successful candlelight vigils.

Lisa Fithian: For all the organizing work she did behind the scenes.

GSFP, IVAW, MFSO, AND VFP: Our organizations with "skin in the game" for all of their support, presence, love, and help.

Bill Mitchell: Bill's son Mike, was KIA in the same battle as Casey and he was the first GSFP member to come to Camp Casey and take some of the heat off of me. He found a new love at Camp Casey (one of our miracles) and I am sooo happy about that. Plus, Bill is one of my most ardent supporters and he just gets in the middle of things, digs in, and helps wherever. I love him and he and his family will be parts of our family forever.

Fred Mattlage: For donating the amazing piece of land for our use that allowed Camp Casey to expand to include thousands.

Air America: The Morning Sedition, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy, and Laura Flanders. Thank you for your support . Ed Schultz belongs there, too, although he is not affiliated with Air America Radio. Amy Goodman was here, too!

The bloggers on The Daily Kos (and most bloggers in general): I would read their comments everyday after I posted my diary and I was always heartened and encouraged by their remarks. After all of the negativity, their positivity gave me strength to go on. In addition, the first night we were in Crawford, and being harassed by the SS, they were posting things and getting the word out that we were there alone and defenseless, which may have saved our lives, or saved us from being injured, or harassed out of there.

So many other people: The Camp Casey volunteers...literally hundreds. The more than 10,000 people who came through CC. Ann Wright who kept CC going. Arianna Huffington for her advice and support. Joan Baez who kept CC's spirits alive while I was in California attending to my sick mother. George Bush for not meeting with me on August 6th. Martin Sheen for his support and presence. A.I.M for Dennis Banks and Russell Means. Gary Hart, John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Barbara Lee, Sheila Jackson Lee, Jan Schakowsky, Dennis Kucinich, Frank Pallone, Lynn Woolsey, Chuck Hagel, Ralph Nader, Jim McDermott, Walter Jones, Charlie Rangel and the other politicos who either came to CC, or called me to offer their support and love. I know I am forgetting some, but thanks to you all. Joe Wilson and his family for paving the way for me to be able to ignore and dismiss the reich-wing smear machine who always tried to marginalize and discredit me by exaggerating or twisting my words and lying about me. The clergy who were there with their love and support: Rabbi Arthur Waskow, Rabbi Dennis Shulman; Rev. Al Sharpton, Rev. Bob Edgars, Rev. Jesse Jackson (who prayed bed time prayers with me), Rita Brock, etc.

There were so many good people who donated money, goods, or services who want to be kept anonymous.

But especially to Americans who resonated with Camp Casey and gave us prayers, support, money, love and most of all hope for the future.

We will take our country back. And it will be a country that we want back.

God Bless America!!!!

Originally posted to CindySheehan on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:22 AM PDT.

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  •  I wish, Cindy, that there had ever been... (4.00)
    ...a doubt over oil being the root, underlying reason for our "preemptive" war in Iraq.

    And with production facilities down along the Gulf Coast, I fear we will "stay the course" even longer.

    All blessings to you, Cindy.

  •  absotively (none)
    right on.

    OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL.

    Just remember...people are always more important than ideas.

    by circuithead on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:21:39 AM PDT

  •  Next he'll say:"If they get their hands (none)
    on the $9bil and my hanes underwear, they could rule the world. Heh heh heh."
    •  Underwear gnomes? (4.00)
      Are you referring to those infamous and brilliant South Park neocon capitalists, the underwear gnomes, and their plans to make big money stealing the underwear of the children of South Park?  Well, I don't care if you weren't, I'm glad you brought them up.

      See, I've long wondered if after SP infamy, they went to work in the Jim Guckert wing of the Bush Administration black ops strategies department.  In fact, the Jabberwocky-ish shifting sands of our justification for the Iraq war, whose Escherian logic has been nobly pursued by our noble and loverly Crawford-fire-ant-fighting Jeanne D'Arc, Mme. Sheehan, may well have its mystery boil down to that simple "missing step 2".

      In this tinfoil hat scenario, the underwear gnomes worked closely with Wolfowitz and Rice on the ultimate post-9/11 three step plan:

      1.  Invade Iraq
      2.
      3.  Defeat terrorism worldwide and create prosperity for every American.

      As the gnomes will tell you, they're not sure about step 2...there was one, but they just can't recall it now.  The point is step #3, that's where you want to be by golly, and we'll try to remember what step #2 was.  It might have been "find the WMD's".  It might have been "capture Osama Bin Laden in Tikrit".  It might have been "capture Saddam Hussein because...something good has to come of it, you know, for human rights. (As an aside, the underwear gnomes are pleased as punch about those Saddam prison laundry photos.)  It might have been "lure all terrorists to Iraq since they won't possibly fan out operations anywhere else, certainly not London, and defeat them in one brillant blinding move of mass anti-guerrila military genius".  

      No...no...it had to be the "seize the oil fields and keep them out of the hands of the terrorists so that they'll be forced to pay $3.00 a gallon like all Americans thus crippling the economic viability of the Al Qaeida SUV fleet!".  Maybe that was the missing dance step!

      We may not know until the next time GWB has a military school graduating class or Legionnaire's convention to address, since the gnomes may have given him another possible Step #2 mystery solution by that time.  It certainly explains the inadvisability of GWB meeting with Casey's maw before he's sure though.

      It really doesn't matter--the defeat of worldwide terrorism, unbridled properity, and a wild card berth for the Texas Rangers are promised in step 3!

      (Apologies to Matt Stone and Trey Parker--and  Texas Rangers fans with the exception of one--and to Cindy Sheehan prolly...just trying to maintain the RDA of snarky levity here, Cin.  See ya in Eastern Daylight Time.).

      •  The same sort of logic... (none)
        Is behind seemingly most of the modern Republican Party policies. For instance:
        On taxes:
        1. Eliminate taxes except for the poor.
        2. (??? Working on this part)
        3. America becomes a modern paradise!
        Or let's see...
        On retirement:
        1. End social security.
        2. (???)
        3. Everyone retires in comfort and luxury!
        Or how about this one:
        On the environment:
        1. Pretend global warming doesn't exist
        2. (???)
        3. Global warming still doesn't exist!
        ...Well... Err, you get the picture anyway.

        The Shapeshifter's Blog -- Politics, Philosophy, and Madness!

        by Shapeshifter on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 07:39:48 PM PDT

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  •  God bless you girlfriend! (4.00)
    Cindy Sheehan for President!!
  •  Who is bush taling about (none)
    Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Argentina, Mexico. I guess well be invading all the above to protect their Oil wells? Hmmm

    Disabled Viet Vet ret.

    by eddieb061345 on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:23:43 AM PDT

  •  What are your thoughts on Katrina? (none)
        Just wondering. Thanks.
    •  I can answer that (4.00)
      Cindy expressed her sympathy toward the hurricane victims at the news conference at Camp Casey and pledged help.

      Taken from the Lone Star Iconoclast site:

      8/30/05 Gene Ellis reporting for The Iconoclast

      A dinner was held tonight at Camp Casey II to thank the volunteers. Dismantling of both camps is under way. Many unused supplies, tarps, and tents will go to the New Orleans area to assist in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. These items will be transported by the veterans from the camp.

      Listen to Crawford broadcast of the Brad Show live starting every day at noon (CT)

      by SisTwo on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 01:29:19 PM PDT

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  •  Stay on his ass, Cindy. (none)
    Oil !! The noble cause !! Bling, bling !
  •  God bless you, Cindy. (none)
    From one mother to another.

    "I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Meta4Life on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:24:23 AM PDT

  •  Brilliantly said (none)
    I hope the rest of the world was paying attention to his remarks of yesterday.
    •  Most people are, the ones that need it aren't. (4.00)
      The rest of the world is paying attention, they knew it was oil from the start.  49% of America was already paying attention too.

      But Bush and 51% still think it's about WMDs/Terrorists/Freedom/Terrorism prevention etc.

      But some of the 51% are waking up.  Unfortuneately the man at the top WON'T wake up, the only way to fix it is to get his ass out of office.

  •  I Would Love to See Bush ... (4.00)
    reconcile his latest reasoning with the fact that there weren't any terrorists in Iraq until he invaded it.

    Thanks, Cindy, and keep up the good fight!

    This is CLASS WAR, and the other side is winning.

    by Mr X on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:25:38 AM PDT

  •  Will we ever get tired of being right? (none)
    We are the folks who said, from the beginning:

    If George W. Bush gets into the White House, he's liable to come up with some bullsh*t excuse to invade Iraq.

    -and-

    This war is illegal, immoral, an attempt to dominate resourses, a bad waste of American lives and taxdollars, it will ruin our international reputation, create human rights scandals, and make us less safe.

    It is also an unwinnable quagmire.

    And guess who the monsters who created this disaster are blaming? Surprise! Everyone but themselves.

    The war, now in its third year? Beginners luck.

    Take the fight to them. Don't let them bring it to you. - Harry S. Truman

    by jgoodfri on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:27:05 AM PDT

  •  All who are surprised (none)
    stand up quick!

    The Christian Right is neither Witness Every Day

    by TXsharon on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:27:20 AM PDT

  •  Thank you Cindy (4.00)
    Stay with it.  Realize of course that now for some time to come your story will be eclipsed by the tragedy in New Orleans - but they're related.
    But you know that as well as anyone.  Thankyou for your courage.
    •  katrina (4.00)
      my heart goes out to the people in the gulf states.

      i am sorry for their tragedy.

      we are sending our left over supplies from camp casey to new orleans.

      peace
      cindy

      •  Cindy (4.00)
        I donated money to the redcross last evening in memrial to Casey Sheehan. Really folks there is a space to do that on their internet donation site at www.redcross.org. We honor Casey's memory and the victims of Katrina at the same time. It was an honor to be a part of Camp Casey this past weekend Cindy. How can we ever thank you for getting the attention of the rest of America. Love you!

        The more understanding one posesses, the less there is to say and the more there is to do.

        by Alohaleezy on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 02:53:22 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks For That Reminder.... (4.00)
          I just donated another $50 in Casey's Name,[made a hurried donation last night and wasn't thinking] and a Suggestion to anyone else who is going to do same, especially if coming to DC on the 24th.

          Have the Card sent to you and We Will All Present Them To Cindy There In Front Of:

          The George W. Bush National Yellow Elephant Sanctuary

          •  A Revision To Above.... (none)
            If you know someone who Was Killed or Maimed in Iraq or Afganistan Make Your Contribution In Their Names and if address is known have Card sent to them! If you know Name of the one Killed but don't know address, Cindy as a GoldStar Mom, and the Other GoldStar Moms and Families will know how to get the cards to their families!!

            If you don't know anyone than making it in Casey's Name, as an Honor to Not Only Casey but All Who Have Died in this Senseless Conflict!

            James Starowicz
            USN '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In-Country '70-'71 COMNAVFORV

  •  Wow. First, no WMD. And now, no oil, either. (4.00)
    He's doing a great job getting that oil to us, too. That must be why I'm paying almost $3 a gallon. Did we find anything that was supposed to be there? No WMD. No flowers. No dancing in the streets. And no sign of that protected oil, either.

    Good News: No Blood for Oil. Bad News: Blood was for nothing.

    •  Bush: $4 gas is Katrina's fault (none)
      Not his little war on Iraq.


      "We're dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history," he said at the news conference hours after an aerial tour of the area.

      "This is going to be a difficult road," he added, and made it clear the impact could broaden well past the four states along the battered coast.

      "Our citizens must understand this storm has disrupted the capacity to make gasoline and to distribute gasoline," the president said.

      Bush Press Conference

      So you better expect THIS    

      NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Consumers can expect retail gas prices to rise to $4 a gallon soon, but whether they stay there depends on the long-term damage to oil facilities from Hurricane Katrina, oil and gas analysts said Wednesday. "There's no question gas will hit $4 a gallon," Ben Brockwell, director of pricing at the Oil Price Information Service, said. "The question is how high will it go and how long will it last?".
         

      and a big push to do THIS

      Two dozen House Republicans, including three committee chairmen, have asked Speaker J. Dennis Hastert not to use a Congressional budget procedure to clear the way for oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska. They said in an Aug. 4 letter to Mr. Hastert, Republican of Illinois, that the budget process was ''an inappropriate venue to be debating this important environmental issue'' and warned that it would further complicate difficult budget issues.
         

      Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

      by willyr on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 03:51:57 PM PDT

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  •  With every loss (4.00)
    God sends a gift.

    You have lost so much.  Now you have the gift of a voice - a beautiful, clear, focused voice - that has already changed America forever.

    America, overall, has lost so much.  But from our losses, with have been given...YOU.

    God Bless Casey, and God Bless You, Cindy Sheehan.  

    I hope to see you sometime as you take back America, ON THE ROAD!

    "Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but is a stab at the health of human society." -Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by hopesprings on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:29:39 AM PDT

  •  Thank you, Cindy (none)
    For continuing to press Bush on the utter debacle that is Iraq.

    Best wishes on your tour and godspeed.

    Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. - Thomas Jefferson

    by jorndorff on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:29:47 AM PDT

  •  Thurs in Houston (none)
    You know you may be arriving in Houston around the time the folks from NO and the Dome get here.  Might be good for you to talk about Bush and the country's welfare from the Karina perspective too.  There are real connections between the catastrophies, and this country needs strong voices that connect the dots.
    •  NO! (none)
      Please do not politicize the hurricane as you know Bush will. For him it is just another photo op. Do your giving from the sidelines, please.

      The more understanding one posesses, the less there is to say and the more there is to do.

      by Alohaleezy on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 02:56:34 PM PDT

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      •  I'm not exactly getting this (none)

        A lot of the foreign press is blaming Bush, some of our major papers and commentators are doing the same (e.g., 09/01 editorial in the NYT) but you think Cindy should not draw the connections between the bad policies, the exportation of US resources, the tax cuts to the rich and the devastation??  Given what's happening in the media, I'd guess it will look pretty odd if she doesn't.  IMHO.
  •  We need you to keep speaking out (none)
    We need to constantly make the connection between the Iraq debacle and the New Orleans disaster--the levee repair money diverted to Iraq, the drain of National Guard members and equipment....
  •  Thank you, Cindy (none)
    "If Zarqawi and bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks."

    To gain control implies that control is currently being contested. We know who is contesting for control, but we must ask why control is being contested in the first place?

    Its all fine and well to say that we have to keep Iraq out of control of a nebulously labelled group of 'terrorists'. But we must ask how control of Iraq came to be something the United States is fighting for.

    "They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions. They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over the United States and our coalition."

    You know, if John Kerry said this a year ago, conservatives wouldn't have been able to pound him fast enough or hard enough for 'agreeing with the terrorists.'

    Mitakuye Oyasin - Lakota prayer of oneness and harmony with all forms of life.

    by PanzerMensch on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:41:29 AM PDT

  •  As Willie sings "On the road again, just (none)
    can't wait to get on the road again. The life I love is making peace through my new friends, and I can't wait to get on the road again....

    Be sure and document how much gas goes up across the country as you bus your way to the White House.

    You are an amazing woman, Cindy Sheehan. Keep the focus on the lies and arrogance of this administration. More avarage Americans are waking up to the horror that is the BushCo.

    WORST PRESIDENT EVER!

    Most Americans are a lot dumber than we give them credit for- George Carlin 2004

    by maggiemae on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:45:50 AM PDT

  •  Thank you so much, Cindy... (none)
    and please DON'T YOU STOP!!!
  •  Of course. But they need us to say it. (none)
    The only way the U.S. population will support a war is if it is being fought for a "good" reason. They did not want to risk even a 100 lives in Bosnia or Somalia. But 1000's in Iraq? Ok because there is a "good" reason. Keep the cars going.

    But the right cannot say or admit this. They are dependent upon the left saying it. They want the left to say it so they can deny it and say it is for  "democracy" or "security."

    So people know the real reason without the right dirtying their hands.

  •  Thank You, Cindy (4.00)
    For your spirit, anger and oveerwhelming sense of justice.  I read your posts and I feel connected to a larger sense of good that I know will reclaim our country and our world again.

    You have sparked hope and that is the biggest gift of all.

    We have your back whereever your travels take you because your cause is our cause.

    And keep these posts coming!  You have a real gift for communicating integrity and truth that comes across when you speak and when you write.  You're getting better and better and better as your message resonates with more and more people.

    (and I love your thanking W, teeheehehehehe.  It's the gigantor magnitude of his awful awfulness that is helping fuel this awesome mobilization of peace and goodness.  People everywhere are beginning to see that the emperor has no brain and no heart and we will abandon him to the fate he has brought on himself.)

  •  Cindy... (4.00)
    I was watching CNN's coverage of the Katrina aftermath when suddenly your commercial came on.  I was floored.  It's such a simple, eloquent statement, and you deliver it with such moral authority.  I couldn't believe how powerful it was to hear someone state the simple truth:  "You lied to us, and my son died because of it."  I was shocked, frankly, that CNN put it on the air, because it's such an indictment of the whole war enterprise of which they were a giddily willing participant.  

    My sincerest condolences to you on the loss of Casey, and to all the families, whether they support what you're doing or not.  And deep thanks for having the courage to speak the truth.

  •  More Cindy slander (none)
    Found this looking for Katrina photos for a relief website.  It's gonna piss you off

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ihillary/38938602/

  •  Good job, Cindy. (none)
    Which bus tour route are you taking to Washington D.C.? See you there the weekend of Sep. 24.
  •  Yep... (none)
    It was a "No-oil-ble cause"...

    TexasDemocrat
    Giggity giggity giggity...Iraq's a Quagmire

    by TexasDemocrat on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:02:43 PM PDT

  •  Where does AQ get its funding now? (4.00)
    Why from OIL

    Saudi Oil

    Those loveable rogues and their wahabi Islam, who W has studiously ignored.

    "Who made america leader of the free world? I voted for Belgium" Eddie Izzard

    by ewan husarmee on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:03:49 PM PDT

  •  We are holding continuing vigils in (none)
    Marshalltown, IA. We'll be meeting tonight at 6pm. Thank you, Cindy, for speaking up and sticking with it.
  •  Thank you for all you do Cindy. (none)
    We've got your back and we love you for what you have done for America.

    According to the 9/11 Commission there was no connection between 9/11 and Iraq.

    by txbirdman on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:07:39 PM PDT

  •  Cindy hope you have time to read this... (none)

    Bush won't meet with Cindy because she has TRUTH on her side.

    by mattes on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:09:39 PM PDT

  •  Cind-o-rama.... The Sheehanator.... (none)
    Makin' historyyyyy.
  •  oh, Cindy (4.00)
    Thank you so much. Words fail me now, however I taught my niece about you the other day. I didn't need to use the words "brave" or "patriotic." She got it right away.

    Peace and love to you.

  •  THANK YOU, CINDY!!! (4.00)
    We should all be thanking you daily because you refused to sit still and do nothing.  You drove to Crawford (I so remember reading your post about how angry you were that Bushco was on vacation while we were at war) and you were the one who sat in a lawn chair all night in the dark, confronting the cowardly lion in his own lair.  I hope I can shake your hand in DC and thank you in person and tell you, "I'm Little Lulu from the DailyKos and I knew you were a true patriot and a true hero the day you drove to Crawford."  If I don't get to shake your hand, I take comfort in knowing you'll read this post and feel the love and admiration I have and will always have for you and the grief I feel for the sacrifice made by your precious son, Casey. Thanks to your strength and undaunted stance for the truth and an end to war, I know Casey will rest in peace.  We love and cherish you, Cindy!  Onward and upward!!!
  •  Not just Americans (4.00)
    who resonated with Camp Casey.  Cindy, you are an inspiration to millions all over the world.

    My heartfelt thanks for speaking the truth.  A committed person can change the world.

    the world is so exquisite...

    by andrewinscotland on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:10:52 PM PDT

    •  Not only americans (none)
      Since day one, here in Spain I knew your courageus actitude and your simple message could change many many, opinions. When I first I read about you, here at Dailykos, I thought, she is lke a new Gandhi.
      Go, Cindy, Go!!
  •  I :: heart:: Cindy Sheehan! (none)
    Cindy, you speak for me, and so well!  As a poster further upthread said - you just keep getting better and better at this.  Stay the course - we're here with you.
  •  I'm Telling People... (none)
    ...that I get talk to you almost every day!

    ...and then they all 'ooh' and 'aah'.

    Let's keep this our secret.  :P

    Bless.

  •  Oil (none)
    Ms. Sheehan, make no mistake, your son died in Iraq fighting to preserve the American way of life, just not in the way it was sold to us by Bush and mass media. There is nothing that we do not consume which is not produced directly from, or brought to market by, petroleum. Nothing. We are completely dependent on this resource for our existence, our livelihoods, and our security. Converting to an alternative should have begun decades ago but it didn't. That's the reality we now face. It was shortsighted, but frankly, it is as much the fault of the American people and our demand for convenience as it is anyone else's.

    For a variety of reasons, mostly national pride I guess, many Americans cannot admit the nation would commit to war for such self interest. So narratives are created. Stories that inject nobility into our mission: We're finding a smoking gun before it turns into a mushroom cloud; We're spreading freedom; We're building schools for the children. That all sounds noble but it's not the truth and on some level everybody knows it -- especially the oil men (and woman) in the White House.

    As energy shortages become more common and prices rise in the coming months and years I'm afraid more young people such as Casey will have to go to war for our nation's life blood. The only difference may be that any pretense of nobility will be shoved aside and our national self interest in energy and economic greed will become matter of fact.

    In that regard, thank you for your activism and your sacrifice, and the sacrifice of your son, so I can live and work and be autonomous and mobile and secure, at least until the oil runs out.

    "I've already said too much."

    by Rp on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:19:52 PM PDT

    •  What gives our Country the right? (4.00)
      Just what gives our Country the right to pirate away Oil from other sovereign nations by means of bloodshed, bombs, terror, and toppling governments?
      •  Power grows from the barrel of a gun (none)
        Just as true today as when Chairman Mao stated it. The only "right" that the Rethuglicans need is more guns than the people they want to take the oil away from. That's how they think -- in terms of force and brute power.

        There are ways for a sufficiently motivated population to drive out rule of thuggery, but, first, that requires a sufficiently motivated population. Which the masses of apathetic cynical "can't do" America alas is not nowdays....

        - Badtux the Cynical Penguin

        Religious conservatives are motivated by the suspicion that someone, somewhere, is having fun.

        by badtux on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 02:30:14 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Survival (none)
        I appreciate your sentiment but when the lights go out and the heat goes off your idealism will not really matter. Iraq is the first of the Oil wars. There will be more.

        "I've already said too much."

        by Rp on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 02:59:06 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Rp on oil (none)
      What about the asymmetry in the oil wars?
      Is that not the cause of 9-11 and the declaration of war against the USA by Osama Bin Laden? As Thomas Friedman explained, for decades we didn't care what went on in Arab countries. . . .all we wanted was cheap oil, and the cavalier treatment of the suffering people created a reaction to our unwanted political influence where we supported tyrants in order to get oil on our terms.
  •  Thank you once more (none)
    for transforming your grief into our hope for the future.

    The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

    by semiot on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:21:14 PM PDT

  •  You're some mother! (none)
    Love flows both ways to/from you.

    "...psychopaths have little difficulty infiltrating the domains of...politics, law enforcement, (and) government." Dr. Robert Hare

    by RubDMC on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:21:23 PM PDT

  •  Whoa now... (none)
    "so he will be heading to Louisiana to see the devastation that his environmental policies and his killing policies have caused"

    I could give you that the deployment of troops in Iraq has slowed the aid response, but saying that his policies caused this natural distaster is inappropriate...   and his environmental policies are bad, but they didn't cause this hurricane.

    I love you Cindy, but this statement is a bit too inflammatory for me....

    •  Enviro Policy (none)
      His policies surely hampered the preparedness of the levees to withstand a big storm, which many people who are paid to know were very worried about. It would appear they were right to be.

      I think that part you can lay at Bush's feet for sure, and all the supply-side free-marketeers.

    •  Just edit the statement (none)
      I don't know that we need a disclaimer denying that the Bush adminstration CAUSED Katrina.

      Other diaries today have argued persuasively that the war in Iraq, the obscene tax cuts, and the Bushies' ideological hostility toward public works projects prevented necessary work on the levees which gave way.  

      There's an interesting column in the Boston Globe which ties Katrina and other occurrences to global warming, and perhaps the word "environmental" in the original statement was intended to refer to that.

      In any event, just edit the statement (personally, I'd add "tax policy").

      We're all in this together

      by JTML on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:41:50 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  To clarify (none)
        Absolutely Dubya's policy have impacted our nations ability to recover from this storm, and  may be responsible for us not taking appropriate preventative measures live levees and such.  I think these points are eloquently stated, but it's just to much to say 'caused'...   and I think that language causes all of the other points to be lost.
  •  As the blogmaster Billmon wrote ... (4.00)
    ...two and a half years ago, it was: Operation Iraqi Liberation.

    "The President wanted to go into Iraq in the worst possible way. And he did." -- Nancy Pelosi

    by Meteor Blades on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:23:19 PM PDT

    •  Ah, so then it was a code name! (none)
      Now I got it!

      <snaps fingers and lit light bulb appears over head>

      "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

      by Donna in Rome on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:44:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Finally, the truth. (4.00)
    You knew it was oil, all along. So did I. Hell, anyone with a lick of sense knew it was all about the oil.

    But after two years, YOU were the one who got him to admit it. Not a senator. Not a member of Congress. Not a governor.

    You, Cindy Sheehan. One woman with a sunburn.

    Bless you for being who you are.

  •  Bless you (none)
    And good luck to you, Cindy.

    I suppose your bus tour is going to go in a straight line, more or less, from Texas to Washington? I wish I could wave you on, but I'm in the upper Midwest.

    You go, woman!!!!

  •  Hell (none)
    Hell just loook at the new oil conglomerate LUKOIL's logo.  Its has a blood drop instead of an O.  I kidd you not.

    http://www.lukoilamericas.com/rebranding.htm

     Can it get any more obvious

  •  Thank you for lifting the curtain (none)
    and exposing the great and powerful Oz as just another crook. Your son deserved better leadership, and so do we all. Thank you Cindy, you have focused like a laser, and shown as all how it can be done.
  •  ditto Sheehan for president (none)
    Most people who have this kind of media attention for such a prolonged period, trip up - let it go to their heads, lose their perspective.

    Cindy is one of those rare individuals who has maintained cool composure and stayed on course in the glare of media spotlight.

    She would make one hell of a fine president.

  •  What I sent to my political email list (none)
    Well, Bush's 5 week vacation is drawing to a close. All in all, it was nice to have him holed up away from the cameras, and enjoying himself while the rest of us are counting bodies, watching gas prices go through the roof (and that ain't nothing compared to what the heating bill in New England will be this winter), and generally trying to live our lives free of slime. Now it's back to the perpetual drum beat for war, (on to Iran if you believe Sy Hersh, who is right pretty damned often), privatizing social security (mmmmm snake oil?), and defending those poor harassed right wingers and billionaires from class warfare. Isn't there any way to get him to STAY on vacation, or better yet retire early? He's done MORE than enough already, thank you. Oh, and if there is ANYONE who thinks this isn't about oil, I've got a great big oil rig located just north of Dauphin Island to sell you.

    Cindy Sheehan has brought a Ray of Hope like a Laser beam into these dark dark times. She has shown us what real focus is, she has been relentless, determined, and above all, right. She has sounded the depths of the muddy waters (amazingly shallow), and painted a silver lining on the dust clouds of Baghdad. Now her national bus tour will end up in Washington D.C.  Will Bush divulge the "real" reason he lied us into war? Will he ever meet with Cindy? Will he attend a funeral for anyone KIA in Iraq? Stay tuned...

  •  Champion of Peace (none)
    you truly are. Your courage is that of the greatest human beings to ever live. Watching you like a rock while the tide ebbed and flowed around you has been awe inspiring. I support you 100%. God bless you.

    I don't care that they take all the money, it's the hypocrisy I despise

  •  Yes, it was and is OIL... (none)
    and please stay on that theme.  

    Bush will never meet with you nor will he ever answer your question concerning the Noble Cause, but if you take your answer from his speech it will eventually become the so called Noble Cause.

    The RWCM is not our friend. We need change.

    by california jim on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:47:28 PM PDT

  •  Cindy- (4.00)
    My eldest son is studying in Germany for the Fall Semester.  The first thing his host family wanted to know was what he thought of GWB.  He told them that one of the last things he did before he left was to attend a Peace Vigil in your honor.  Needless to say his host family was thrilled with that news and it definately smoothed the transition for him with his new "family".

    Thank you doesn't begin to express the depth of my gratitude that I feel towards you.  You have given me hope for the future and for the future of my two sons.

    GWB will pry my 20 year old son from my cold dead fingers.

    by Momagainstthedraft on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 12:51:35 PM PDT

  •  A profound debt (none)
    Your vigil has proved the catalyst that has at last begun to force the nation into a dialogue about why we're in Iraq and how to get out.  No one will ever be able to reckon the final tally of its impact, but it is a surety that every day it shaves off the ultimate withdrawal of our troops means an American parent is spared the grief of losing a son or daughter as you lost Casey.

    I pray, too, that our withdrawal will lead to greater stability in Iraq, and a lessening of the terrible burden of grief there.  

    Thank you for your courage and perseverance.  The world owes you a profound debt.  

  •  The speech in SD was an insult (none)
    to all of us...

    This scum knows no shame, no shame.

    Transcript from San Diego:

    blah, blah, blah,
    9-11,
    blah blah, blah
    Pearl Harbor
    blah blah blah
    War on Ter'r
    blah blah blah
    WWII  
    blah blah blah
    lie lie lie
    murderous ideology.
    blah blah blah
    now is then
    blah blah blah
    war is peace
    blah blah blah
    now is then
    blah blah blah
    ignorance is strength
    blah blah blah
    now is then
    blah blah blah
    freedom is slavery
    blah blah blah
    moral issues
    blah blah blah
    political capital
    bye bye bye

    I love the smell of impeachment in the morning!

    by gabbardd on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 01:06:04 PM PDT

  •  Denial - American Public (none)

    Cindy, your best case to american public is to describe:

    How you once wanted to believe in our President.

    That you and your son are/were extremely patriotic.

    What made you realise that maybe something was wrong and how you found the truth.

    God bless you Cindy.

    P.S.
    I think most people have supressed their anguish over the 9/11 attacks.
    Just like child abuse - it is a painfull PROCESS for one to come to come to grips with reality.
    The American public at large - is in denial!!!

  •  I LOVE YOU!!!!! (none)
    "Bush said. "They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions"  end of copy/paste

    It is about oil and other concerns, Cindy. But it is not about any fears of terrorists gaining financial freedom due to oil revenues.

    The statement he makes is another attempt at mis-direction and dis-information. The terroeists have all the money they require from the poppy fields in Afghanistan.

    Bush/Blair/corporate interests want the oil of Iraq not terrorists.

    I hope to meet you for a quick minute in Washington DC, until then, go with God.

  •  Thanks Cindy (none)
    for rising above the mud-throwing and keeping your head up high.  You are truly a role model.

    I hope that you swing through St. Louis on your road tour.  I will be dragging my 16 year old kicking and screaming.  He wants to join the Army after high-school and under many circumstances I would encourage him, but I can't at the present  moment.  

    I want him to hear you speak.  

  •  Don't forget Brad Friedman (none)
    I listened to the happenings of Camp Casey on the Brad Show. It was great to feel like I was there with you.

    I'm sure it was just a mistake. I'll be glad to thank him too.

    Thank you, Brad! Keep on blogging the truth, and thanks for not being afraid to interrupt your vacation for Cindy.

    Listen to Crawford broadcast of the Brad Show live starting every day at noon (CT)

    by SisTwo on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 01:19:17 PM PDT

  •  your courage encourages (none)
    Cindy, every day I read your diary and it gives me courage. Your love and spirit have awakened sleeping giants in us. We will never be the same, and all for the better. Your eloquent righteous truth to power keeps us together and moving forward for peace. I am particpating in ways I never dreamed of.  Thank you for giving back the hope that was smothered by the reichwing machine. We CAN and will take our country back.
  •  See you in DC Cindy (none)
    Cindy,

    I don't know if you are the drinking type, but I wanna buy you a beer when you arrive in DC!

    Speaking of drinking: Donate to the RED CROSS or another organization which is providing support to NO and the Gulf Coast. Even $50 can make a difference; these folks need WATER, FOOD, and MEDICINE among other things. The Red Cross is best suited to provide for the needs of OUR FELLOW AMERICANS. This is what they plan and prepare for, let's pitch in and help these brave first responders help the victims of this tragedy. YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

  •  If One Of These Reps........ (none)
    Is Yours 'THANK THEM' and Start Working to Help Them!!!!!!!!!!!
    They Need your Grassoots Support and Any thing you can do to Help them get More Sign Ons and Get this Moving in the 'Right Direction'!!!

    `Out of Iraq' Caucus Membership up to 66 Now

    (As of August 31, 2005)

    Rep. Maxine Waters, Chair, Co-Founder
    Rep. Lynn Woolsey, Co-Founder
    Rep. John Conyers, Co-Founder
    Rep. Charlie Rangel, Co-Founder
    Rep. Barbara Lee, Co-Founder
    Rep. Jan Schakowsky, Co-Founder
    Rep. William Delahunt, Co-Founder
    Rep. John Lewis, Co-Founder
    Rep. Neil Abercrombie
    Rep. Tammy Baldwin
    Rep. Xavier Becerra
    Rep. Corrine Brown
    Rep. Sherrod Brown
    Rep. Michael Capuano
    Rep. Julia Carson
    Rep. Donna Christensen
    Rep. William Lacy Clay
    Rep. Elijah Cummings
    Rep. Danny Davis
    Rep. Lloyd Doggett
    Rep. Lane Evans
    Rep. Sam Farr
    Rep. Chaka Fattah
    Rep. Bob Filner
    Rep. Barney Frank
    Rep. Raul Grijalva
    Rep. Luis Gutierrez
    Rep. Maurice Hinchey
    Rep. Rush Holt
    Rep. Michael Honda
    Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones
    Rep. Marcy Kaptur
    Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick
    Rep. Dennis Kucinich
    Rep. John Larson
    Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee
    Rep. Carolyn Maloney
    Rep. Edward Markey
    Rep. Jim McDermott
    Rep. James McGovern
    Rep. Cynthia McKinney
    Rep. Marty Meehan
    Rep. George Miller
    Rep. Gwen Moore
    Rep. Jim Moran
    Rep. Grace Napolitano
    Rep. Eleanor Holmes-Norton
    Rep. James Oberstar
    Rep. John Olver
    Rep. Major Owens
    Rep. Frank Pallone
    Rep. Donald Payne
    Rep. Nick Rahall
    Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard
    Rep. Bobby Rush
    Rep. Linda Sanchez
    Rep. Bobby Scott
    Rep. Jose Serrano
    Rep. Hilda Solis
    Rep. Pete Stark
    Rep. Bennie Thompson
    Rep. John Tierney
    Rep. Ed Towns
    Rep. Nydia Velázquez
    Rep. Diane Watson
    Rep. Albert Wynn
    ***
    ...a president is not the country.... it is loyalty to the country that is important....not the leader of the country....
    ***
    For those who believe that public opposition to the war at home undermines
    the morale of troops in combat, here is a point of view from someone who
    knows what he is talking about. For the record, many I served with in Viet
    Nam were angry about the protests in the US (in no small part because we
    were demonized in the process), but they were not demoralized by it. They,
    like those of us who thought as the writer of this letter does, were
    demoralized by incompetent, careerist leaders, a lack of rational strategy
    and politicians who play the game for their benefit with our lives. THAT was
    demoralizing.

    Please pass this along, particularly to those who, without benefit of war
    time experience, claim that protesting the war demoralizes the troops.

    Honor the warrior, not the war
    Bring our troops home, now
    Take care of them we they get home

    Dave Collins
    Austin contact, Viet Nam Veterans Against the War

    I will Add to Dave's 'Correct' observations of that time;"One of the Reasons you See In-Country Vietnam Soldiers Wearing 'Peace Signs' and Giving the Peace Sign in Most of the Video's Shown!!!!!!!"
    James Starowicz
    USN '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In-Country '70-'71 COMNAVFORV

  •  You Did? You Drew Strength From Us? (none)
    Cindy, how heartening to read this from you....

    "The bloggers on The Daily Kos (and most bloggers in general): I would read their comments everyday after I posted my diary and I was always heartened and encouraged by their remarks. After all of the negativity, their positivity gave me strength to go on."

    Well, we drew strength from you too.

    And we'll continue together in this next phase.

    Love to you, Cindy Sheehan.
     

  •  Thanks for your bravery... (4.00)
    I've never seen such a tough woman in my life as you.  I can't believe you stood up to Bush. I CAN'T BELIEVE NOBODY ELSE COULD STAND UP TO THE "BOY WHO CRIED WAR" BUSH BEFORE YOU, without being run into the ground. Honey, you are one powerful woman, and whatever you got, we all want some of it!!!  

    We will survive the next 3.5 years somehow, in much better shape because of you!  

    ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!

    "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind"

  •  Thank you for all you have done (4.00)
    including taking back "God Bless America" from the right wing who thought that they owned it.

      Poor George had a rough vacation what with your protest and now the hurricane has ruined what was left of his trying to get on with his life.  But now people will realize that he has absolutely no concern for what the American people really need or want.

     I have a feeling that he is getting tired of being president. I think he wants to spend all of his time riding his bike and it seems like he has given Cheney and others all the power to run the country.  He has gotten what he wanted from being elected... high gas prices and permanent bases in the middle east, ownership of the media, a tax system that favors the rich, a supreme court that will become right wing, etc..etc.

    Thanks again Cindy, see you on the tour and God Bless America!

  •  hagel (none)
    Did Hagel support Camp Casey?
  •  Actually, I'm almost relieved (none)
    I've held all along that if Iraq's biggest export had been turnips rather than oil, we would not be in there. Now that it's official, we can stop doing counter-productive stuff like levelling Fallujah (where there is no oil) and instead concentrate on the Imperial task of securing the Empire's oil.

    As for the former Republic, I fear that it is lost forever. The vast majority of the populance simply does not care what kind of government they live under -- 70% of Americans voted for Bush last November, either directly or by staying home and failing to vote against him. I fear that the best advice I can offer is upon Imperial competence nowdays. In that respect, this latest admission on the part of the Chimperor of the Empire is good news, because it means the Empire can go about its business of securing its oil supplies at gunpoint without wasting time on unproductive things like leveling cities where there is no oil....

    - Badtux the Cynical Penguin

    Religious conservatives are motivated by the suspicion that someone, somewhere, is having fun.

    by badtux on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 02:25:47 PM PDT

  •  The Northern Bus Tour (none)
    will be in Madison WI on the 4th and Chicago on the 6th.  Cindy, I contacted by email the event person for the tour to see if we could have the bus stop in Northern Illinois on the way from WI to Chicago. No repsonse as of yet.  We have a peace group that has just started to form becasue of the vigil I hosted and we have a peace candidate that spoke at our vigil who is considering a run against Meilissa Bean in 06 .

    Can you give me any indication if this stop in Lake county or McHenry Il is possible?

  •  Its the Love, Sweetie! (none)
    And thanks for yours.
  •  Thank You For Your Courage! (none)
      How folks still have the

    NO BLOOD FOR OIL

     bumper sticker

    inspire change...don't back down

    by missliberties on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 03:23:16 PM PDT

  •  even though GW..... (none)
    Didn't come to CC and talk to you, through a catastrophic act of Nature, he felt compelled to answer your question to the Nation.  Oil, and our control of it, is the Nobel Cause.

    If that is the truth, it is pretty damn ugly.  If the country accepts him at his word, then we are part of the reason for your Son's death if WE DO NOT START USING LESS OIL.  Wouldn't you agree?

    I am sure it has been quite a month for you.  It has been for this observer from near Ann Arbor Michigan.  Keep pressing this president, if that is your desire.  Many in our country have "seen the light".  His inept, response to Katrina has people up here talking also.  

    Gas is going through the roof as I write this.  It could be over $4.00 by Thursday here.  This fall is going to be very interesting to say the least.  Make sure you take care of yourself first.  Be safe.  The ball is rolling, and you no longer have to do it all.  Be careful, and keep on keepinon!

    When the middle class is gone, who will support the Republicans in the manner to which they have grown accustomed?

    by keepinon on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 03:35:57 PM PDT

  •  Oil flows in Bush's veins (none)
    Bush is well-lubricated. Where else, but in Midland/Odessa, do you find the Petroleum Institute? This one on institution where I know Bush has graduated with honors!.

    Couple his quest for oil with he and his fellow conspirators quest for world domination as expressed in PNAC

  •  Cindy, with the 100th comment... (none)
    ...I want to throw in a THANK YOU to you! You are so inspiring! I hope to bring your message to my 5th grade students. Peace. Love. Non-violence. It's all good...

    Love to you and your family from mine!

    Bring 'em home. Now.

    by MichaelPH on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 03:56:28 PM PDT

  •  O U T !!!!!!!!!!!!!! N O W !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (none)
    Cindy:

    You just keep saying ALL the RIGHT things!  

    There will be ebbs and flows of emotion and achievement ahead as you and the other pro-peace activists travel to DC.  Maintaining equilibrium may be a challenge but you and all your co-thinkers have aleardy moved mountains of thought.

    I am very much looking forward to being in the streets of San Francisco on September 24th shouting:

    O U T !!!!!!!!!!     N O W !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you again, and again and again!!!

    Nobody From No Place Going Nowhere

  •  god bless YOU! (none)
    thank you so much for sharing yourself and your vision as you have been!

    much love!

    •  oh yeah...my vigil report, (none)
      just for grins:

      yay! that was fun! (4.00 / 4)

      when i checked move on's site last, there was nothing posted.  i went downtown today, because protests are always there, but there was nothing.

      so, tonight, i'm walking to the grocery store and what do i find but a cindy vigil!  yay!

      so i stood there with everybody and made some friends.  i tried to wave and give a holler to all the cars honking for us.

      this one older woman in a minivan stopped and asked us what this was about.  so i said "cindy sheehan's son died in iraq and she would like bush to explain why we're there, since the reasons keep changing, people keep dying and nobody is enlisting."

      i didn't hear what she said, but she seemed not to approve.

      oh well.

      it was a wonderful thing!

      "quack!" - george bush, 1/20/2005

      p.s. (4.00 / 2)

          one especially awesome motorist had a "stop war" sign that he held up for us!

  •  Thank you! (none)
    Grazie!
    Danke!
    Merci!
    Muchas Gracias!
    Arrigato!
    etc!!!

    You are a ray of hope in a sad and dark time.  For all us Gold Star families who support you, keep it up!

    'spresso

    "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." -Governor George W Bush (R-TX)

    by espresso on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 04:37:34 PM PDT

  •  CINDY- TH E OIL ARGUMENT IS THE WRONG ARGUMENT (none)
    Cindy:

    I love you and what you've done in Crawford-but the oil argument is notreally accurate, and not helpful:

     We should really get MSM to focus on why Bush really, cynically invaded Iraq:

       1. It wasn't to control or seize the oil (this is too simplistic; albeit he wouldn't want UBL or terrorists to get hold of oil, I doubt he invaded for that)
       2. I wasn't about Isreal;
       3. It wasn't about "democracy" in Middle East
       4. I doubt it was about permanent bases in Iraq, although it probably was in part wanting to have some type of potential toe hold, or at least friendly government, in Middle East
       5. It certainly wasn't about MWD's (this was a convenient excuse)

    I really believe it was simply-

       1. It was a way to be a "war" president, especially after 9/11 and inability to catch UBL

       2. It was a way to pursue a forward pushing foreign policy to be the agressor rather than negotiate between all sides on foreign policy;

       3. It appeared to be a relatively easy, winable war;

       4. Toehold/friend in Middle East; and  

       5. He hated Sadam for trying to Nuke his dad; he thus saw Sadam and his subordinates as "evil", and wanted to take him out

        The most important point, to put it all in perspective: it wasn't ever really about oil, or secret geopolitical conpiracies, it was for a crass, domestic political advantage- to win over the red and purple states in the US as a war president (Items 1 and 2) and for his own selfish reasons (item 5)

         That's why it was so reprehensible; and why main street media should call him on it.    

  •  You're right (none)
    because it couldn't have been about keeping al-Qa'ida terrorists away from the oil. They had no chance of getting to Saddam's oil before our invasion. This is just another lame, post hoc rationalization by Bush.

    Does anyone think Bush will ever catch bin Ladin?

    by Danjuma on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:52:11 PM PDT

  •  The noble cause: to establish an Islamic theocracy (none)
     "supposedly emulating the spirit of 1787.

    I don't doubt there were many smoke-filled back rooms in the taverns of Philadelphia that fateful summer, but in Baghdad this summer there was hardly anything else. And if anyone had tried imitating James Madison's copious notetaking at those sessions -- so that at least history would know how Iraq was dismembered -- he probably would have wound up at the bottom of the Tigris. "

    from Billmon
    http://billmon.org/

    Also
    Wreck It and Run
    http://www.antiwar.com/lind/?articleid=6183

  •  Well... (none)
    And, should I dare say "global warming?" and be branded as a "conspiracy theorist" on top of everything else the reich-wingers say about me.
    I was listening to NPR today and they were doing a monologue by somoene who grew up in New Orleans (but who currently lives elsewhere). He said something along the lines of: Hurricane Katrina is the wake-up call for all the global warming deniers.

    The Shapeshifter's Blog -- Politics, Philosophy, and Madness!

    by Shapeshifter on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 07:41:50 PM PDT

  •  Saddam a worthless bastard, ANY good (none)
    that comes from bushco's war will be because of the guys and gals on the ground doing more than they should have to do with less than should have to have,

    and that is cuz this country is filled with a lot of decent citizens trying to do the right thing, day in and day out, and a lot of those decent citizens are trying to do the right thing day in and day out in the military, in a very dangerous by its nature job.

    the good that happens, it happens DESPITE those theiving bushco bastards, DESPITE the crooked leaders who infest and steal and wreck our institutions, public and private.

    maybe someday we'll figure out systems so that leaders are accountable and responsible for their corruption and incompetence, and the hard work of all of us underlings, and the best rewards, will go to building better schools, better roads, better health care ...

    I've enjoyed your posts each night, despite how sad your story is, because there are people out there who are NOT giving in those corrupt scum.

    I may NOT doorbell my precinct in 2006 to get money and votes for our spineless Democrat "leaders" (well, except Jim McD, my congress critter), but

    I WILL doorbell to tell my neighbors to at least make a freaking statement against this status quo and, to at least get off their asses and vote, and to vote for a REAL American by writing your name in -  

    best wishes.

    rmm.
    pco 36-1392
    ballard, seattle.    

    Grassroots Organizing Should Be for The Community, By The Community - NOT for "Leaders" http://www.liemail.com/BambooGrassroots.html

    by rmdewey on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 08:31:29 PM PDT

  •  Thank you... (none)
    I've so enjoyed reading your posts at dKos these past 5 weeks.

    What a great way to close out or begin my day.  Each diary has been more interesting than the last, and all beautifully written. Thanks for taking the time out of your hectic day to do that for us.

    One question: Did Everyone Knows It's Cindy ever catch on?

    Sung to the tune of the Association's Windy:

    Everyone Knows It's Cindy

    Who's come around to capture this moment
    Calling us all to follow her there
    Who's gearing up to give us a rainbow
    Everyone knows it's Cindy

    Who's camping on the streets of old Crawford
    Smilin' at everybody she sees
    Who's reachin' out to capture a moment
    Everyone knows it's Cindy

    Chorus:

    And Cindy has stormy eyes
    That flash at the sound of lies
    And Cindy has wings to fly
    Above the clouds (above the clouds)
    Above the clouds (above the clouds)

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    Original lyrics by R. Friedman - updated by ilona
    (And jinxed! by jpk :o)

    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

    by ilona on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 09:16:35 PM PDT

  •  Oil stinks (none)
    It is a "fossil fuel" coming from something that died thousands of years ago ... and we wonder why it stinks and why it is a known carcinogenic agent.  

    Crude oil is used for tons of things ... and I swear it's used in margarine because when you heat the stuff it turns into plastic (an oil product).

    When did oil get to be so damned important?  Was it in the early 1900s with the advent of airplanes and cars?  And for 105 years the American ingenuity hasn't been able to make a "better mousetrap" car or airplane?  Instead, the American ingenuity has been applied to finding more and more uses for the damn stinking stuff.

    It's like people don't realize there IS an end to the supply of oil, as in no more.  Like everything else, it's the Scarlet O'Hara approach of "I'll think about that tomorrow."

    Oh, I forgot, we did come up with some replacements for oil energy .... freaking nuclear plants which maybe wouldn't be so bad if they weren't built right on top of freaking faults in California!  And by the way, the cost of the cleanup of nuclear energy plants which will have to happen at some point in the future is not built in to the prices, so the fat cats will get richER and walk into the sunset and DIE and the taxpayer will pick up another tab for them!

    Plastic .... everything is plastic.  Why?  Oil.  The damn stuff won't disintegrate in thousands of years and if and when it does, it'll probably be a pollutant.  

    Fertilizer made from oil, put on the pastures to make the grass and pastures grow that feed cows, that make the corn crops grow that feed cows and sheep, etc.  And then we eat the meat!  It's put on the crops that produce the foods we put in our bellies.  No, it doesn't give us dysentery like human dung does, but it's probably giving us cancer, heart disease, depression, and all the maladies of Americans for which a damn pill is prescribed.

    Oil stinks and as far as I'm concerned, the Middle East can take their oil in suppository form!

  •  My LTE on this (none)
    The Boston Globe has an article on this headlined

    Bush gives new reason for Iraq war

    Says US must prevent oil fields from falling into hands of terrorists

    The article ends with the passage Cindy quoted, so I sent them the following comment referencing that paragraph:

    As horrible as Saddam Hussein was, we DIDN'T have to worry about things like this before we invaded Iraq. It's Bush who has put us in this no-win situation. And he lied about the (non-existent) threat Hussein posed to the U.S. to get us there. That's an impeachable offense in my book -- just a bit more serious than a philanderer lying about an affair!

    "We can win elections only by standing up for what we believe." --Howard Dean

    by Jim in Chicago on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 09:29:11 PM PDT

  •  Yes, Oil. God Bless you, Cindy. (none)
    Image hosted by Photobucket.com

    I'ts too wet to work. Let's buy a DVD.

    by emmasnacker on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 09:41:57 PM PDT

  •  One truthful, gutsy lady (none)
    Thank you for standing up for the truth and the real patriotic vets of this country while Sen.s Biden and Clinton and Rep. Pelosi merely sat down with lobbyists.
    I doubt if many Iraqis are willing to fund some Saudi's dream of a caliphate.  Remember when withdrawing from Vietnam supposedly would encourage the Vietnamese resistance to take over Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and the Phillipines?
    Vietnam is hardly utopia, but it is more interested in exporting consumer goods to US retailers than exporting revolution.
      We heard in 1965 and 2002 tall tales agreed to by powerful men in Texas tall office buildings.  The media reported them as revealed truth.  But they never reckoned on you, Cindy.
    GOD BLESS YOU AND PROTECT YOU AND BUNNY, ET AL.

    Live in the truth - Bjornstjerne Bjornson

    by multisect on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 10:03:31 PM PDT

  •  irony (none)
    How ironic that George gave you your answer on the last day of your month in Crawford.  I don't blame him for being too scared to say it to your face.  He had to come here to SD to say it.  At least in San Diego, he's got some competition for the title "Most Corrupt Politician" - although he still wins it far and away.  Duke Cunningham is small potatoes.

    I'm coming to DC with you Cindy.  I'll be there 9-24!

  •  God Bless you Cindy (none)
    You and the vigils supporting you have given me new hope.  We have to take our country back.  Please keep fighting the good fight.  Your son loves you for it and so do I.  PEACE

    Santorum wants to steal your social security. Casey in '06!

    by jah4168 on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 10:16:59 PM PDT

  •  Cindy, You Embody This (none)
    Each time a man stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.

    Robert F. Kennedy

    I know how men in exile feed on dreams. - Aeschylus

    by Patricia Taylor on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 10:36:06 PM PDT

  •  Cindy for U.S. Senate (none)
    Out with the war whore.
    Yeah, who do I mean?
    It's hard to tell, sadly.

    Fox News is a propaganda outlet of the Republican Party - DNC Chair Howard Dean

    by easong on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 10:36:16 PM PDT

  •  Cindy, if you get down this far in the comments, (none)
    please let me tell you that for every person who was able to come down to Camp Casey, a thousand more were with you in thought.  I'm the mom of 3 young boys, and the idea of losing one of them to any war, let alone as senseless as Iraq, is utterly inconceivable.  

    Godspeed on your peace tour.  No matter what happens next, I will be watching out for you for the rest of my life because in these dark times, you have made me proud to be American.  And I will be teaching my sons your lessons of hope, truth, and most importantly, peace.

  •  War is: (none)
    War is:
    DANGEROUS,
    DEADLY,
    DETRIMENTAL,
    FATAL,
    HARMFUL,
    HAZARDOUS,
    NOXIOUS,
    PERILOUS,
    TREACHEROUS,
    UNHEALTHY,
    UNSAFE,
    for HUMAN BEINGS and OTHER LIVING THINGS.

    I would like to see all the white crosses that you had at Camp Casey displayed along 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. God bless you and keep you safe.

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