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(From the diaries -- Plutonium Page. This is the magnitude of the tragedy.)

A collection of raw numbers that offer another glimpse on the magnitude of the events of the past week.

  • # of days we eyed Katrina before she reached the US Gulf Coast on 8/28: 7
  • # of days since hurricane Katrina slammed into the US Gulf Coast: 5
  • # of days before US federal government response: 4
  • # of months in hurricane season: 6 [ends Nov. 30]
  • # in line of named tropical storms/hurricanes for Katrina: 11
  • # of current tropical storms/hurricanes in Atlantic basin: 13
  • # of tropical depressions formed in Atlantic basin: 14
  • Area covered by federal disaster declarations: 90,000 sq. miles
  • Wind speed of Katrina as she struck LA on Monday: 140 mph
  • # of Katrina's hurricane category at landfall: 4
  • Combined length of NOLA hurricane levees: 350 miles
  • Size of gap in NOLA's 17th Street Canal levee breach: 300 feet
  • Depth of water covering parts of NOLA: 20 feet
  • % of NOLA under water: 80%
  • # of days engineers and crews expect to need to dry out NOLA: 36-80
Much more below the fold...

  • Height of wall of water to hit MS coast: 30 feet
  • % of Biloxi/Gulfport, MS buildings wiped away by storm surge: 90%
  • # of official deaths to date in MS: 126
  • # of official deaths to date in AL: 2
  • # of official deaths in FL: 11
  • # of deaths estimated in NOLA: up to 10,000
  • # of people listed on Nola.com's Missing Persons Forum by late Thursday: >7,400.
  • # of corpses collected in St. Bernard Parish: 100
  • # of above corpses tethered together to keep from floating away: 25
  • # of federal public health specialists to be deployed throughout Gulf Coast region in an attempt to ward off a variety of food- and water-borne diseases: ~500
  • # of doses of tetanus vaccine sent to Mississippi by CDC: 8,000
  • # of Dept. of Wildlife & Fisheries boats used in St. Bernard search & rescue: 400
  • # of St. Bernard residents rescued: 10,000 [of 66,000 total parish pop]
  • # of people currently displaced: 1,000,000
  • # of American Red Cross (ARC) shelters in MS: 101
  • # of ARC shelters in LA: 90
  • # of ARC shelters in AL: 31
  • # of days military and local authorities have kept the ARC from entering NOLA: 5
  • # of meals the ARC is serving to evacuees outside of NOLA: 500,000/per day
  • # of people rescued by the Coast Guard from flooded areas and rooftops: 4,000
  • # of helicoptered-in victims that later died at NO Int'l Airport: ~100
  • # evacuated from the Superdome, shelters and highways: 50,000
  • # of people who'd gathered at the Superdome for evacuation: 60,000
  • # of Hyatt, Ritz-Carlton guests moved to head of Superdome's evac line: 700
  • # of people remaining in Superdome stadium [as of 11pm 9/2]: 2,000
  • # of days FEMA head Michael Brown was unaware people had been evacuated to the Convention Center: 3
  • # of bodies strewn outside the Convention Center: at least 7
  • # of survivors still stranded in Convention Center [as of 11pm 9/2]: 15,-20,000
  • # of days for Army National Guard troops to arrive in downtown NOLA: 4
  • # of people transported out of NOLA on buses by Friday night: 1,000 per hour
  • # of deaths on overturned bus [near Lafayette, LA] carrying evacuees to Dallas: 1
  • # of displaced students registered for public school classes in Lafayette, LA by Thurs.: 1,469
  • # of displaced students registered for classes in East Baton Rouge, LA in 4 hours: 300
  • # est. of Katrina evacuees in Houston hotels: 55,000
  • # of Katrina evacuees in Memphis: 10,000 [using 25% of 21,000 hotel rooms]
  • # of empty acres on Bush's ranch: 1600
  • % of 8-mi Twin Span bridge connecting NOLA with Slidell, LA collapsed into Lake Pontchartrain: 40%
  • # of destroyed miles on U.S. Highway 90 running along Gulf Coast between New Orleans and Pascagoula, MS: 100
  • % of 2,200 hotel rooms occupied by evacuees in Tuscaloosa, AL: near 100%
  • # of people in MS, LA, AL, and FL still without electricity: 2.3 million
  • # of local and out-of-state utility workers spreading out across southeastern LA: 6,000
  • # of residents in the city of NOLA: 460,000
  • # est. people trapped in NOLA alone: 80,000
  • # of tanker/other vessels held up at mi. 235 on Mississippi River until Friday: 90
  • # of people China moved out of the way of Typhoon Aere: 937,000
  • # of people Cuba moved out of the way of Hurricane Ivan: 1.3 million
  • # of people per hour dying in NOLA's city hospitals: 8-10
  • # of NOLA hospital patients airlifted out of city yesterday: 438
  • # of people evacuated to safety on Chalmette Slip during the flood - 1,500
  • # of those evacuated above that died waiting for food and water - 100
  • # of trucks dispatched to NOLA: 1,300
  • Length of Friday's military-led aid convoy: 8 miles
  • # of meals-ready-to-eat sent to the area: 17.1 million
  • # of meals served per day at the Biloxi, MS Salvation Army: 1,200
  • # of BellSouth Corp. Gulf Coast customers without service: 1.6 million
  • # of BellSouth Corp. Gulf Coast customers with restored service: 150,000
  • # of police radio channels being currently used in NOLA: 1
  • # of agencies using NOLA's 1 open police radio channel: 20
  • # of satellite-based wireless phones sent to Gulf Coast: 10,000
  • # of satellite-based wireless phones in 3-state region pre-Katrina: few thousand
  • # of foreign nations offering to help US: nearly 60
  • $ Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez offered the Red Cross: $1,000,000
  • # of doctors Cuba's President Fidel Castro offered to send: 1,100
  • # of tons of medicine Cuba's Castro offered to send: 26
  • $ charitable contributions collected for the victims of 9/11: ~$1 billion
  • $ contributions to date from individuals, corporations, foundations: $400 million
  • # of television networks jointly broadcasting last night's benefit concert: 6
  • $ donated to victims by WalMart: $17 million
  • $ donated to victims by GE: $6 million cash + $10 million in medical devices
  • $ donated to victims by Toyota: $5 million
  • $ donated to victims by Walt Disney Co. $2.5 million
  • # of months GM and Ford will delay car payment collection for victims: 3
  • # of projected payroll cuts this month due to Katrina aftermath: 500,000
  • # of years since US last saw 500,000 jobs cut in a month: 30 years
  • # of airlines who have begun evacuating residents of NOLA: 12 [biggest US airlift-rescue ever]
  • % daily jet fuel production is down: 13%
  • % jet fuel prices have increased this week: 19%
  • Fraction of nation's oil produced by US Gulf Coast region: 1/3
  • % of Gulf Coast oil production shut down currently: 91%
  • # of possible barrels dumped in a major oil spill at mile marker 22 on the Mississippi River near Venice: 800,000 - 4 million [not determined as of yet]
  • # of missing oil rigs in Gulf region: 30
  • # of offshore oil platforms knocked from their moorings: 28
  • # of oil rigs in gulf region: ~520
  • # barrels of oil in strategic reserve: 700 million
  • # barrels of oil released so far: 5 million
  • $ avg. price of gasoline a year ago: $1.86
  • $ avg. price of gasoline today: $3-$6 and up
  • Fraction of nation's natural gas produced by US Gulf Coast region: 1/5
  • % of Gulf gas production shut down currently: 83%
  • Fraction of all grain produced in US that is exported out of the country: 1/4
  • % of US grain exports handled by US Gulf Coast region: 60%
  • # of top 12 US ports in the Gulf Coast region: 5
  • Ranking of the South Louisiana port by US cargo volume: #1
  • $ est. freight transport companies are losing due to closed ports: $3-4 million/day
  • % of LA's oyster harvest lost: 2/3 [valued at $181 million]
  • # of years it could take for the LA oyster crop to return: 2-3
  • NOLA mortgage/real estate records feared lost dating back to: 1827
  • # est. LA attorneys who've lost offices, files and other documents critical to civil and criminal legal cases: 6,000 (a full 2/3)
  • $ tourists spent last year in NOLA: $5 billion
  • % of Louisiana's tourism income coming from NOLA: 50%
  • # of exercises conducted simulating hurricane hitting NOLA in 2004: at least 1
  • # of articles in NOLA's Times Picayune series predicting fall-out of 'Big One': 5
  • $ est. total economic losses caused by Katrina: - $100 billion
  • $ amount on the relief funding bill signed by Bush: $10.5 billion
  • $ est. insured damages for Hurricane Katrina: $50 billion
  • $ Hurricane Andrew's total insured damages (after inflation): $43 billion
  • $ spent shoring up levees, building pumping stations past decade: $430 million
  • $ of crucial work still remaining, but underfunded due to Iraq War: $250 million
  • $ Army Corp of Engineers request for NOLA hurricane/flood programs in 2004: $105 million
  • $ amount the WH carved above request down to: $40 million
  • $ value of pork-filled highway bill: $286.4 billion
  • $ bill allocation to building Alaska bridge to uninhabited island: $231 million
  • $ federal money spent on emergency preparedness following 9/11: $8.6 billion
  • $ sent by Homeland Security to states to combat terrorism annually: $1.1 billion
  • $ sent by Homeland Security to states to combat natural disasters: $180 million
  • # of major disasters declared by the federal government since 1995: 562
  • # of terrorist attacks out of the above: 2 [OK City, 9/11]
  • % of terrorism grant money that may be spent on national disasters: 0
  • $ 2005 FEMA budget: $5.038 billion
  • # of NOLA police officers: 1,700
  • # of National Guard (NG) members in LA: 11,700
  • # of NG troops in MS: 7,800
  • # of NG troops in AL: 2,000
  • # of NG troops in FL: 700
  • % of NG troops in Iraq: 30%
  • % of NG equipment in Iraq: 50%
  • # of additional NG forces to be sent by Pentagon: 30,000
  • # of regular Army soldiers that may be sent by Pentagon: 3,000
  • # of area military bases to be used for operations: 6
  • # of Swift-boat teams being sent to Gulf Coast region: 8
  • # of major disasters predicted by FEMA in 2001 that have already happened under Bush's watch: 2 out of 3
  • % of those stuck in NOLA predicted to perish in above report: 10%
  • % of WH officials/Cabinet Members on vacation 3 days after Katrina hit: 95%
  • % of tolerance President Bush said looters would be treated with: 0
  • % of tolerance we should show the Treasury-raiding Bush administration: 0
  • # of deaths needed before the President orders all flags to half-staff: [?]

Sources:
Bloomberg: Conditions Improve in New Orleans; Thousands Still Await Help
Washington Post [DC]: New Orleans Cops Use Single Radio Channel
USAToday: Hotels `Bursting at Seams' with Katrina Refugees
BBC News: US Counting the Cost of Katrina
Reuters: Bodies, Gunfire and Chaos in New Orleans' Streets
Reuters: Hope Emerges for New Orleans But Struggles Remain
The Mercury News [San Jose, CA]: New Orleans Police Begin to Show Signs of Stress
CTV.ca: Mississippi Struggles to Deal with Dead Bodies
NDTV [India]: Anger Grows After Katrina Devastation
The Economic Times: US Still Reeling Under Katrina's Fury
LA Times [CA]: Front and Center
Houston Chronicle [TX]: Troops Arrive: Superdome Evacuation Halted
New York Times: Conditions in New Orleans Still Dire - Pumping May Take Months
London Telegraph: The Relief of New Orleans
Miami Herald [FL]: Terror War May Have Hurt Storm Response
LA Times: Businesses Donating in Great Numbers
Philadelphia Daily News [PA]: Attywood: When the Levee Breaks
The National Hurricane Center: Tropical Cyclone Climatology
Houston Chronicle [TX]: National Guard General Faces Tough Questions
New York Times: United States of Shame
Baltimore Sun [MD]: Coast Under Water, FEMA Under Fire
Newsday [NY]: New Orleans Levees No Match for Katrina
Nola.com [LA]: More Guns, Buses, Relief Roll into City
Louisiana.gov: Katrina Devastated Area Infrustructure
ChannelNewsAsia [Singapore]: Typhoon Aere: Heavy Damage But Few Casualties in China as Taiwan death Toll Rises
MSNBC: Cuba Mostly Spared Ivan's Wrath
CNN: Presidential Gas Bill Gets Steeper
Whitehouse.gov: Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana
Peoria Star Journal [IL]: Red Cross Helps Out Despite Setbacks
KHON2 [Honolulu, HI]: Crisis Worsens in New Orleans
GovExec.com [Washington, DC]: National Guard, Corps of Engineers Move Into New Orleans

One last set of numbers. 1-800-HELP-NOW

[Cross-posted at My Left Wing]

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 03:49 AM PDT.

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  •  Can you do this every day? (4.00)
    I'd appreciate it.

    Thanks

    •  Ha, ha! You made me a chuckle, Fabian. (4.00)
      Sticking to the theme of the diary, I guess I can answer this request by stating: I could if there were 48 hours in every day. :o)

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 03:35:58 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Phenomenal work (4.00)
        Thanks for doing this. Hopefully it gets viewed beyond just DKos.

        This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

        by emptywheel on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:03:05 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Don't Forget These (2.57)
          • number of buses available which NORTA failed to use to evacuate poor people instead of sending them to the Superdome - 364

          • number of school buses available that NO officials failed to use to evacuate poor people instead of sending them to the Convention Center -hundreds.

          • width of vertical concrete walls used by the corps of engineers in the last two years  to upgrade and reinforce the 17th Street Canal levee - several feet.
          •  and (1.80)
            *number of GOP shills on this thread: 1 (so far)
          •  In the spirit of level-headed conversation, (none)
            had all the buses been utilized to transport people to the Superdome/Convention Center, the failure to provide timely aid starting late Tuesday is still unacceptable.  

            The rhetoric of the right wing is being fixed around the policy of disinformation.

            by MoronMike on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 07:38:18 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  One more (none)

            Percentage of levies, per foot, that failed: .016%.

            (And yes, the decimal is in the right place. For those that prefer their percentages in straight decimal it's .00016.)

            Kinda shows you how important is to spend that money to shore up every inch of levy.

          •  One school bus that got used (4.00)
            was driven by a 20-year old.  I heard this on Jerry Springer's show on Air America yesterday.  The young man (I think his first name was Jamal and I forgot his last name) saw an unused Orleans Parish school bus, hot-wired it, picked up some people, and started out for the Astrodome in Houston.  Apparently he'd heard that would be one place they'd put refugees.  He picked up more folks on the way.  His bus was the first to arrive at the Astrodome, and I think at first they wouldn't let people unload.  

            So far a streetwise 20-year old (car thief?) has shown more leadership than any elected Republican.  

            We're all pretty crazy some way or other; some of us just hide it better.

            by david78209 on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:49:54 AM PDT

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            •  Is he out of trouble? (none)
              When I first heard about this, the authorities were saying that he may be in a ton of trouble for comandeering the bus. Can you believe that? The guy's a hero, not a criminal, for cryin' out loud. And this is a national emergency/disaster. How dare they even suggest something like that to a young guy that's been through hell trying to save himself and others.

              He should get a medal for being so smart and helpful to others in the midst of such a crisis; I mean, he could have just hot-wired the bus and took off in it alone, if he wanted to.

              I just chalked up the fact they were threatening him when he arrived in Houston to yet another head-shaker deep in the heart of BushAmerica.

              Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

              by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 09:34:27 AM PDT

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            •  Not hot-wired (4.00)
              He didn't hot wire it.  I saw him tell the story in an interview, and he said the keys were labeled and in the bus drivers' building next to the school buses.  He just took the bus that matched the key he grabbed.

              I realize this is a small point, but in an atmosphere of black people "looting" and white people "finding," it's probably worth being careful with our use of language.

          •  Why are facts rated a 1 (4.00)
            These are facts not GOP shill.  I think we have gone over the deep end if we give facts 1 ratings just because the may not imply criticism the way we want.

            Naggin was unable to offer these buses to go to other cities for various reasons.  That doesn't make him bad it's just one part of a larger story. But rating a 1 I just don't understand.

            Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the begining of wisdom. ---Bertand Russell

            by leeroy on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:53:42 AM PDT

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            •  WHERE WERE THE EVACUEES SUPPOSED TO GO? (none)
              The uptake of the "why weren't the buses used before the storm?" theme ignores one problem: where were the buses supposed to take those 50,000-odd people?  We're seeing that, even with three or four days' notice (after the storm), finding accomodations for that many people is functionally impossible.
              •  I would have given you a four (none)
                but your last comment sort of kills it.  Finding accomodations for people is a matter of logistics. Now they probably should not have tried to put people into tents - high winds and all...I personally think the Superdome was the right first step...but they clearly had no plan to move people as soon as the storm was over...and that should have been the plan.  They could have delt with the accomodation issue...after all, they are dealing with it now.

                onnyturf.com - Collective Political and Community Journalism by NYers for NYers

                by atomicBirdsong on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 09:35:17 AM PDT

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      •  Thank you (none)
        This diary took some serious time I'm guessing and it paid off.   Thank you so much.   This is perspective in a big way numberwise.

        George W. Bush, Resign NOW.

        by tlh lib on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:33:30 AM PDT

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      •  Please update... (none)
        There are a couple of errors above the fold; I've detailed them here, lower in the comments: http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/9/3/63040/95586/53#53

        A voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

        by mustang dvs on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 06:57:58 AM PDT

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        •  Yes, working on it as we speak... (none)
          ...thank you for the corrections, mustang dvs.

          Thanks, everyone.

          Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

          by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 07:05:16 AM PDT

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          •  Number of NOLA deaths needed (none)
            before we can lower the flag to half-staff?
            •  Yes...half-staff. (none)
              I was in a half-mast mood earlier this week (a diary title of mine reflects that).

              I'm wondering, too Dulce: Is there some reason why the President hasn't ordered flags across our nation at half-staff? Are there conventions to these things that have not been met, making the call to do that inappropriate at the moment?

              Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

              by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 09:41:24 AM PDT

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      •  Amazing work.... (none)
        thank you so very much.
    •  Bless you (none)
      Bles you for letting this be heard.

      Bless you for not forgetting us, my family, my friends, my people.

      Bless you.

      The Crown Prince of New Orleans Is Crying
      http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/6837/32680

  •  Thanks for your recommends, and additions. (4.00)
    "Life, we learn too late, is in the living, the tissue of every day and hour."

    -Stephen Butler Leacock

    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

    by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 03:32:06 AM PDT

  •  Wow, thanks for the numbers. What particularly (none)
    struck me was the number of days it really took for the government to respond.  I guess somebody should have moved some WMD in there.
    •  I've noticed that people are using past tense (none)
      when describing Government Response.
      As in:

      number of days it really took for the government to respond. -I've seen no proof of that.

      Assume 500000 people stayed for Katrina-conservative.

      Assume 250000 left after levee broke-optimistic.

      assume every home in New Orleans has at least one gun.  Knowing the South I'd say three in white areas-pistol, rifle shotgun.

      Vets will have M16's.

      2 -1million bbl tanks are leaking East of NO.
      Notice we haven't heard a word from anything East of New Orleans.

      Bottom line: my assessment is that New Orleans is never going to be rebuilt and that US domestic oil production will never again reach pre-Katrina levels. The infrastructure is gone, the people are gone, and the US economy will be on life support very, very quickly. If people are griping at $5.00 gasoline what will they do when it's $8.00? $10.00? Start shooting (the wrong people)? How difficult is it to rebuild in that kind of social climate? And if US oil production does not soon exceed pre-Katrina levels then the US economy is doomed anyway. It's a catch-up game now. I think it's quite likely that the Bush administration is responding so ineptly in part because it is in a complete crisis mode realizing that the entire United States is on the brink of collapse and there's very little they can do about it. The Bush administration doesn't know how to build things up, only blow them up. They aren't worrying about New Orleans because they're frantically triaging the rest of the nation and deciding what can be saved elsewhere.

      •  optimistic on oil (none)
        With the prices of crude oil as high as they are, destroyed rigs, damaged pipelines etc. will be repaired.  Rebuilding the city is a different matter: this requires big federal help.

        Even so, in the aftermath of 9/11, Congress voted for 50 billion aid package.  This is an even larger catastrophe.  Without a big engineering program to protect NOLA and to start rebuilding LA coast as 1998 plan forseen --- things will never be the same, or even similar.

        By the way, US is dependent on oil, but the dependency can be reduced as we discussed it many, many times.  Perhaps the growth rate will be like in Western Europe where they have 6 dollar gas, but this is not a disaster.

        •  And I keep hearing comparisons to Europe (4.00)
          and their living with $6 gas.

          This is a false comparison.

          Bulgaria has a better mass transit than the US.

          When it costs more to drive to your job than you make-think 20% net to fill tanks, 16% to service debt-Robert Samuelson.

          Assume BP's $billion dollar Thunderhorse is gone.

          We were tight before Katrina.

          I'm telling you right here right now, I am intimately familiar with New Orleans importance to this nation.
          I have 5 gas stations that I use regularly-two have closed Shell, Conoco. The Third has no midgrade and is charging$3.09. The Media is lying about the avg price. I know because my gas is ALWAYS 10 cents below the national avg.

          Get real familiar with where your closest refinery is, that info could be life and death.

          Tuesday AM you will see the Worst Case Scenario dawning over NO.

          In hindsite it's so obvious but who would've thought that NO would be the Straw breaking the World's back.

          •  Europe's $6 fuel is mostly taxes (none)

            The point is that if US gasoline hits $6, then most of the money is flowing to the Mideast to pay people who like to kill us, and some of the rest to oil companies.

            In Europe, the high taxes get recycled back into the economy and for services that people want.

            Also large industrial users (truckers) tpyically get tax breaks and so don't pay as much of a difference.

            •  Buy Citgo (none)
              Not a dime to the Middle East; not a dime to friends of Bush.
              •  Buy Biodiesel (none)
                American-grown, American-processed.

                A week ago, I seemed slightly loony -- yaknow? a little too far ahead of the curve -- for having invested in the biodiesel car.

                I wanted FIRST and FOREMOST to help create a demand for the infrastructure (pumps, stations, processors, growers, trucking routes) -- by buying the fuel myself.

                I work at home. I have a 20-second commute down the hallway. I hang out my clothes to dry, and am refining my roof-water system. I've lived in the country, and I can get way more basic than I am -- and still be happy as a clam.

                But I digress.

                Buy biodiesel. But yes, Citgo if you must.

                The antidote to "all the bad news that's fit to print": HeroicStories.com, free subscriptions.

                by AllisonInSeattle on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 12:42:29 AM PDT

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                •  Populist rule of thumb (none)
                  Start with people where they are, not where you'd like them to be.
                •  Buy what you can (none)
                  Do what you must, and be glad you're able.

                  The Human Pop growth rate is slowing.  The Rate of the Growth Rate Slowing is Increasing.  Inother words, the Growth Rate is going Flat.  Think Yield Curve.

                  Let me repeat this.  Let the implications of this sink in.

                  The Human Pop growth rate is slowing.  The Rate of the Growth Rate Slowing is Increasing.  Inother words, the Growth Rate is going Flat.  Think Yield Curve.

                  "By the way, US is dependent on oil, but the dependency can be reduced as we discussed it many, many times.  Perhaps the growth rate will be like in Western Europe where they have 6 dollar gas, but this is not a disaster."

                  Never again will humanity experience the growth rate we have now.  Never again will the Human Pop be as large as it is now.

                  The
                  Asymptotic peak of the Human Pop Growth Parabolic Curve is Majestically Peaking even as I type.

                  It has been in lockstep with the Oil Production curve lasting the EXACT same amt of time.

                  With New Orleans Katrina Peak Oil has been reached.

                  The only way for the human Pop now is to decline.

                  Mother Nature used us to rid the World of Excess Hydrocarbons, Ancient Forests and a Good part of the Animal , fish, creature overabundance.

                  We have successfully completed our task.  We have worked our way out of a job.

                  Good Work.  

          •  It's the Day Hell Opens to America (none)
            Buckle Op Lock and Load.

            CiviL War has begun.

            How long can the center hold?

            My fatherin law put in stations for Phillips 66.

            I'm sure my family worked for Phillips on both sides of my family.

            Phillips 66 joined with Conoco. CPH

            Look at a map of Northeastern Oklahoma.   A Phillips  is in Bartlesville, Ponca City is a Refinery to Conoco

            i'm telling you the above as a preface to the following:

            Human effort can't still the river's restlessness forever. The hydrologic workings of the system have picked the new mouth, via the Atchafalaya River to the west. The Corps of Engineers has emplaced the mighty Old River Control Complex to hold back the change, but--so to speak--they realize they're only whistling Dixie. Another earthquake on the New Madrid fault, an upstream dam failure, even another massive flood could overpower the control complex. Someday the river will have its way.

            Someday the river will have its way.

            COP Conoco Phillips (COP)   has just permanently lost a refinery East of NewOrleans

            Along with 450 000 BCD of 2 other permanently lost Reneries, Chalmette and Murphy-think WalMart here, they are a joint project, have been permanently lost.

            Civil  War has started.

            At the northernmost tip of the Barataria-Terrebonne Estuary is the Morganza Spillway and, just to the north of the spillway, is the Old River Control Complex, built between 1957 and 1986. These two Mississippi River control structures impact the estuary by controlling the inflow of freshwater from the Mississippi River. The structures prevent the capture of the Mississippi River by the Atchafalaya River.

            An area the size of Great Britain has been lost.  New Orleans is on the Gulf.

            Blow the Levees or the River will continue to be destroyed by  the South side Levee.  Like a lighted String of TNT the South Side will continue to burn all the way up to the Old River Control Project.

            This will happen within 20 years or NewMadrid/ Hurricane activity could hasten the process.

            All one has to do to end the Civil War is blow the South Side of the Misissippi River  at any point up to and including the  Atchafalaya Old River Control Project.

            That includes residents of New Orleans, a city now standing below sea level. (People attending the meeting sessions could walk outside and observe ships going by on the river beyond the levees--higher than the streets.) Yet the city's leaders aren't campaigning to let the river seek a new mouth; the present one sustains New Orleans' economic life, and that of bustling Baton Rouge upstream. If the river moved to a new channel, those cities might find themselves squatting beside a muddy trickle.

            The River is 50 ft deep along the French Quarter.  The Deepest pt of NO is maybe 10 ft below sea level.  

            The only thing keeping the river in it's place now is the PetroChemical Complex up river.

            The only thing keeping the World's largest petrochemical Complex in existence is the River.

            The only way to save New Orleans is to blow the South Side of the River.

            Blow the South Levee of the River up to/including the Atchafalaya River and you win the War.

            Resistance has started.

            The 1/2 Human's thinking out of their Reptile Cortex are doomed.  If you are a god fearing person,  I'm iffy on it.  My family calls me a pagan,  pray.

            Because as Jeanne Meserve told Wolf Blitzer "This is Armageddon." Hell is at the gate.

            Welcome.  

            Bifurcation has happened Chaos Theory  New Steady state developing.

            Get locked and Loaded.

            Blow the Levees or the River will.

      •  US Oil Production (none)
        Will never exceed pre-Katrina levels because it's been in continual decline since 1971.
        •  Exactly (none)
          In the case of New Orleans, however, it's happening about two or three times as fast as we will see it when Peak Oil becomes an unavoidable, ugly, global reality. How long? Months. If we're lucky, a year. As of August 2005 it's not just a race to make sure that a particular region is not eaten by warfare and economic collapse. Mother Nature is obviously very hungry too. What region will be the next to go? What sacrifices can be offered before the inevitable comes knocking at our own personal door? Who can be pushed ahead of us into the mouth of the hungry beast in the hopes it will become sated?

          How low can human beings sink? Keep watching the news. It's not the first time civilizations have collapsed. This has all happened many times before. This behavior is not new. What is new -- but is now dying -- is our enshrined belief that there were to be no consequences of our reckless consumption and destruction of the ecosystem. What is now dying a horrible death is America's grotesque global arrogance, brutality and cupidity.

      •  fromthewilderness.com (none)
        Part of your post is directly from fromthewilderness.com and written by Michael Ruppert. Please give credit where credit is due.
        •  I know that (none)
          I'm posting as fast as I can across the Spectrum.

          Did you not here me?

          The Game is On.  Yes it's Ruppert here's his Address. I love him.  He has played a great part in Triaging ther Human system.

          How many will survive.

          HeyHere's some more folks  Xymphora Huffington European Tribune Sydney Herald Culture change, IndyMedia Gas And OilDepletionScotland.

          Go Here go there.  Post Everywhere.

          http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/090205_bet_life.shtml

          Read Madsen, Nimmo, Tariq Ali-yes Iraq is still happenin 30 US are dying per day.

          The only good about NOGC is that it has forestalled an attack on Syria Iran.

          Get this out Now.

          James

      •  More Hurricanes (none)
        What scares me is that this isn't a one-off event. The huuricane season still has three months to go, and it happens every year. With climate change, we can expect evermore and ever-stronger storms.

        I'm not suggesting that the New Orelans basin will be hit directly by another Katrina-force hurricane any time soon. But with the current state of the city, it doesn't need to be. Even relatively mild (by hurrican standards) wind and rain will severely disrupt the salvage and reconstruction work.

        The same applies to the oil infrastructure, except that it's spread out all along the coast and so much more likely to get hit.

      •  Please attribute the source to your comment... (none)
        jmmcgowanjm, nice comment, but it was someone else's words in that last paragraph. Right off the website.

        Really, REALLY bad etiquette.

        The mind once enlightened cannot again become dark. - Thomas Paine

        by Hewsh on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:49:14 PM PDT

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        •  Hewsh, please see this post above (none)
          by jmmcgowanjm on Mon Sep 5th, 2005 at 17:31:30 PDT

          Thank you

           Or ban me Idon't care.

          I'm not making money here.  I'm not  playing And I think DKOSis being monitored by the Military. Note To Military-Hey you sorry assed bastrds you're a day late and a dollar short-
          This quote is from me.  I'm sourcing myself.
          bellylaugh.

          Or Sue me.  I don'yt care

          I gotta go.  

          James

    •  Which government? (none)
      There's a lot of finger pointing taking place. When Nagin let rip  the other night, he didn't mention that Louisiana Govenor Blanco called him the Saturday night before landfall and asked him to order the mandatory evacuation. New Orlean's hurricane contingency plan had called for the evac to start 72 hours before a category 3 hurricane threatened. At the following Sunday morning news conference said Bush called her and appealed to her for the evacuation.
      Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.
      •  So now it is all the mayor's fault? (none)
        Or maybe that of the woman who gave birth to him.

        Why couldn't the damn GOVERNOR ORDER THE EVACUATION HERSELF?
        Cat got her tongue?

        WHY COULDN'T BUSH ORDER THE EVACUATION HIMSELF?
        Oh yeah,
        Cindy Sheehan.
        Yup, this is all her fault.

        But I gotta say that Ray Nagin is a man and a half,
        to see that the GOVERNOR of his state
        and the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED OF AMERICA
        must PLEAD with him
        and abide by his decisions.

        Now, lets ask Ray to pull us out of Iraq.
        Heck, if he can overule BUSH,
        who is to say he cannot do it?
        Ray already got some of the Louisiana National Guard sent home early ....

        •  Yes he is at fault (none)
          as well as the Governor, as well as Pres. Bush, as well as FEMA's director.  There is a breakdown in organization and communication and preparation.

          As far as evacuation, it's the Mayor's responsibility to order an evacuation on a local level, it's called a chain of command and the President, NO Mayor and LA Governor followed it.  The infrastructure problems that existed in NO before the hurricane were major contributors to the disaster were watching unfold right in front of us.

  •  Number of major disasters (4.00)
    predicted by FEMA in 2001 that have already happened under Bush's watch:

    2 out of 3

    Maybe San Fransisco should be evacuated for as long as Bush remains president.

    European Tribune - bringing dKos to Europe
    in the long run, we're all dead (Keynes)

    by Jerome a Paris on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 03:56:46 AM PDT

    •  New Madrid (none)
      I'd add in the New Madrid fault area as a disaster in-waiting.

      Obviously there are no plans for any of these sorts of things... but it might be nice to have a plan to deal with hundreds of thousands to millions of refugees and the economic effect that will have.

      As well as maybe doing something about getting people and supplies ready for something like that.

      Bush = Faith based aid! Pray for the victims! The dead didn't pray hard enough. God hated em.

      •  Yeah, faith based... (none)
        ...is really helping keep the pregnancy rates down, too.

        Washington Post: Ohio High School Has 64 Pregnant Students -- 13% of their total student body. Ah, and you read down, and see why. Can anyone here help the principal to figure out why this is happening?

        "This has gotten to horrible proportions. I wish I knew the answer to why it's happening," principal Kim Redmond told the city's daily newspaper The Repository. Redmond did not return several messages left by The Associated Press.

        Joanne Hinton, whose 16-year-old daughter, Raechel Hinton, is eight months pregnant, said she believes the school's abstinence-based sex education program isn't enough.

        "It's time to take the blinders off and realize that these kids are having sex," she said. "Obviously, abstinence is not working. If we have to, just give them condoms."

        Abstinence-based programs have been growing nationwide at schools over the past few years. In Ohio, the Bush's administration and the state's health department have awarded $32 million in grants to Ohio agencies for abstinence education since 2001.

        Another Bush administration success story!

        Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

        by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:25:41 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, the Memphis Bluffs (none)
        are the Fault line exposed.

        The Fault moves every 165 years on avg.

        Last movement-1812

        •  Speaking of earthquakes (none)
          Los Angeles is long overdue for "the big one."

          Perhaps all three San Francisco, Memphis Bluffs, and Los Angeles....

          We all better get our earthquake preparedness kits up to date.

          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.--Dr. Seuss

          by sweettp2063 on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 09:26:39 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Yes Yes Yes (none)
            And the New Madrid could throw the MS River into the bottom of the Barateria Terrebonne Estuary-in other words the Atchafalaya River becomes the MSRiver.

            Stranding the World's Largest PetroChemical Complex.

            And as I'm sure you know Sweetp  there are the two SuperVolcanos Yellowstone and the One in NM( don't know name) that Los Alamos rests on the Lip of.

            James

    •  Damnit! (none)
      You Frenchmen always point out how bad Bush is!  Stop that, right now!

      ;-)

      •  BTW, thx for front-paging my work, PP. N/T (none)

        Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

        by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:07:45 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Thanks, Jerome... (none)
      ...Tacked it right to the end of the list, and I think it fits in nicely, immediately on the heels of Bush's 0%-tolerance-for-screwing-up-during-a-national disaster policy.

      I think we need to utilize the same type of thinking when we decide what to do about his looting of our damn Treasury.

      0% tolerance.

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:18:26 AM PDT

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    •  Let's not forget (none)
      The super volcano laying under Yellowstone. When that baby blows, it will make the last hundred worldwide natural disasters added together look like peanuts. This baby blows every 600 000 years or so. It's been 640 000 since the last time. Many signs indicate that this super volcano could blow at any time.

      Fools rush in where fools have been before.

      by Marcus Junius Brutus on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 09:27:24 AM PDT

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      •  I wouldn't worry about (4.00)
        Armageddon yet.  First was 2.1 million years ago, the next was 1.3 million years, and then 640,000 years ago.  In geological terms, yes, it's right around the corner, but in real world time, we have a few thousand years to figure it out.  Scientists who monitor the park don't see any reason to suspect an explosive eruption any time soon.
      •  Due to heavy traffic volume... (none)
        ...we're enforcing a strict policy of one natural distater per diary for the time being.

        Thank you.

        Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

        by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 09:52:42 AM PDT

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  •  curious to know (none)

    I'd like to know:

    -- the radio of dollars requested but rejected compared to est. cost of catastrophe including all the private in kind donations.
    Prevention vs. Cost of Catastrophe

    --How many babies died?

  •  % of WH officials and Cabinet Members... (4.00)
    still on vacation 3 days after Katrina hit NOLA: 95%

    It all went to hell when Reagan got elected President. -- DinStL

    by Disgusted in St Louis on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:08:57 AM PDT

  •  Chalmette, LA (none)
    # of people evacuated to safety on Chalmette Slip during the flood - 1,500
    # of those evacuated above that died  waiting for food and water - 100

    I said it. I meant it. I stand by it. - Major Paul Hackett

    by joejoejoe on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:09:20 AM PDT

  •  Public vs Private Responsibility (4.00)
    I'm glad to see so many donors but what is truly outrageous is in ineptitude and lack of available response from our government. This is the result of decades of "smaller government" cutbacks by republicans and democrats. This is the nature our capitalist system with its emphasis on private vs public funding.  

    Cuba suffers major hurricanes yearly and very few of its citizens. We could learn a lot from their preparedness but, it is their emphasis on the public good that we could learn the most from.

    The results of the bootstrap politics of cynical corporate power has become plainly visible -- global warming and a lack of public services (even emergency services) should anger and shame us into action. We can do better.

    As gas gouging cripples our economy and the cynical response from the Bushies worsen the environment and criminalize the victims, we need to consider a National General Strike. We need to consider that everyone could stay home from work and spend as little as possible until:

    Price controls on fuel are legistalted.

    Troops are brought home from Iraq

    A Special Investagation of the lies and malfeasance of this administration is established.

    Together, we can take our country back from these thugs.

    •  Viva la Revolution... (4.00)
      ... my friend.

      The demonization of the common welfare has gone on QUITE long enough.

      I'm sure we're all well aware and infuriated by the lack of respect for our common needs and good. It's as if we've forgotten so many hard fought, and won battles by our grand and great-grand parents.

      I'm ashamed for me generation at this point, but have MUCHO faith, that we'll pull our collective asses out of the fire when push comes to shove. I BELIEVE in it. Just like I BELIEVE in each and every person who posts here.

      Even the trolls... eventually. :)

      As the friend who introduced me to death once told me...

      Keep tha faith brother (and sisters for all you PC lovin freaks :) hehe

      •  not all corporations are evil (4.00)
        My company is bussing its workers 190 miles on its own dime, paying them for the transport time, and providing free meals at their destination because with the T-1 lines down, we just can't work at our site.  That's 6 bus trips a day, over 500 employees payed for 10-12 hour workdays, all overtime welcome, to make sure our tech support call centers can handle the load and <insert major computer manufacturer here>'s military, emergency service, and large business clients can get troubleshooting and parts replacement in the hardware nightmare that is the Gulf Coast...I can't tell you how many system replacements we shipped yesterday so the cops and the national guard and the army can get their networks back up and we can start organizing.

        They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -- Ben Franklin

        by TheGryphon on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 07:40:22 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  And who decides what the (none)
        common good is?  

        Government control over everything is not the only answer to our problems.  Homeland Security is one of the best financed departments in government and when pushed to produce results it broke down like an old Pinto.

    •  I think a General Strike... (none)
      ...would be an excellent idea. I haven't been able to concentrate on my work all week. :o)

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:51:30 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  more numbers (none)
    • number of missing oil rigs in gulf region: 20
    • total number of oil rigs in gulf region: ~520

    • amount of oil in strategic reserve: 700 million barrels
    • amount of oil released so far: 5 million barrels

    • number of days until Bush drills into Alaska?

    • number of exercises conducted simulating hurricane hitting NOLA in 2004: at least 1

    • amount of money given to NOLA since 2003 for FEMA disaster mitigation: $0
    •  The last point (none)
      I'm trying to get good documentation on the federal outlay for New Orleans flood control.

      I'm aware of several (to put it lightly) articles mentioning varying degrees of funding, most notably of the one Scott was asked about...the SE LA Flood Control Project.

      Are you specifically stating numbers for FEMA related projects?  If so, what were the requested ones.   If not, you're wrong.   There has been money going there every year but it has been cut drastically with each year that goes by and the projects of neccesity have not been funded to the degree that they would be operable since 9/11.

      Just wondering.....I'm really trying to gather the facts on this.....not bustin your chops :p

      George W. Bush, Resign NOW.

      by tlh lib on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:39:36 AM PDT

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      •  mitigation money (4.00)
        there is different monies for different FEMA funding.  specifically, pre-DHS and FEMA re-org, they had done distaster mitigation.  Since 2003, all the funds are gone.  But then again most of the experts have also left FEMA in disgust.

        You can try and looking for yourself.  One of the main reasons for FEMA extistance is mitigation.
        http://www.fema.gov/fima/

        From a quick google search it looks like they gave out "Approximately $131.5 million" in mitigation grants, and as I said before $0 to NOLA.

        Read this one year old article.

        http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2004-09-22/cover.html

        If you talk to FEMA people and emergency management people around the country, people have almost been hoping for a major natural disaster like a hurricane, just to remind DHS and the administration that there are other big things--even bigger things than al Qaeda.
      •  I can tell you categorically (none)
        that the ONLY Flood/Levee control of any import being done from Natchez South is being done to keep the MS River in place.

        The ONLY way to save New Orleans is to move the River.

        But moving the River Strands the World's Biggest PetroChemical Complex.

        The River will move.  The question is when.

        •  maybe the river & petro can live in harmony (none)
          ever think the master plan is to make a big 'ol port for receiving oil?
          •  Yes. Like the fish and (none)
            the humans.
          •  Except that the fuse is lit by Nature (none)
            Think of the River from Atchafalya to the Gulf as a fuse attached to TNT.

            With Katrina it has "burned" uo to Port Sulpher (look at map) 1/2 of Plaquemines Parish.

            It is burning thru New Orleans now.  New Orleans is on the Gulf now.  An area the size of great Britain has been stripped away.

            The fuse, essentially the South Levee of the River which is doggedly wanting to move into the bottom of the Barataria Terrebonne Estuary.  In other words, the MSRiver is becoming the Atchafalaya know matter who cares or has plans.

            New Orleans can only be saved when the River is moved away.  No matter what anyone does.  We have 20 years max.

            James

    •  Thanks electile... (none)
      ...for the stats (of which I've added most to the list), and for your screen name, too.

      Pure genius, you are...

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:54:07 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  United States of Shame (none)

    The best way to prove the DLC is out of touch is to build a vibrant Progressive movement

    by oratorio on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:36:11 AM PDT

    •  Awesome link, oratorio... (none)
      Great additions, which I'll add to the list:

      Who on earth could have known that New Orleans's sinking levees were at risk from a strong hurricane? Anybody who bothered to read the endless warnings over the years about the Big Easy's uneasy fishbowl.

      In June 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, fretted to The Times-Picayune in New Orleans: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

      Not only was the money depleted by the Bush folly in Iraq; 30 percent of the National Guard and about half its equipment are in Iraq.

      Ron Fournier of The Associated Press reported that the Army Corps of Engineers asked for $105 million for hurricane and flood programs in New Orleans last year. The White House carved it to about $40 million. But President Bush and Congress agreed to a $286.4 billion pork-filled highway bill with 6,000 pet projects, including a $231 million bridge for a small, uninhabited Alaskan island.

      Thanks, again.

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:57:53 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Yikes! (4.00)
    # of black people, stranded in the morass for a week, who will be millionaires with our agitation: 100%

    Let's make these people rich!

    Let's make the Repubs worst nightmare real.  60- 80,000 black millionaires.  

    Heh.

    The concept of war is outdated. Dalai Lama

    by x on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:37:57 AM PDT

    •  Can you say "white and connections"???? (4.00)
      WTF -

      yahoo announcing 1/2 hour ago:

      At one point Friday, the evacuation was interrupted briefly when school buses pulled up so some 700 guests and employees from the Hyatt Hotel could move to the head of the evacuation line -- much to the amazement of those who had been crammed in the Superdome since last Sunday.

      "How does this work? They (are) clean, they are dry, they get out ahead of us?" exclaimed Howard Blue, 22, who tried to get in their line. The National Guard blocked him as other guardsmen helped the well-dressed guests with their luggage.

      Mayor Ray Nagin has used the hotel as a base since it sits across the street from city hall, and there were reports the hotel was cleared with priority to make room for police, firefighters and other officials.

      •  It's a shame and an outrage! (4.00)
        Yesterday's outstanding Congressional Black Caucus press conference cited discrepencies in relief and rescue efforts between white and black communities in MS, AL, and LA, in the wake of Katrina. Can't find those numbers. Anyone have them? Am also searching for a  transcript of the conference. Would love a link.

        Stephanie Tubbs Jones was the voice of reason with a moving tragic allusion to King's "The Time is Now." Just one of Jones's gems: It would have been cheaper to bring cruise ships into NOLA than hole folks up in the Superdome.

        She should be running the country. But she's not -- for the same reasons that NOLA sinks and black folks die disproportionately.

  •  I'd (none)
    love to hear what Michelle Malkin is saying. Ably representing genuine Republican poltics no doubt.
  •  named storms... not hurricanes (none)
    Great list, but only one problem.  There have been 11 named storms, not hurricanes.  Storms can gain a name without becoming a full blown hurricane.  That said, NOAA fully expects to see a very active storm season, and we're on track to see several more actual hurricanes.

    --sammy from florida ;)

    •  Thank you, lalato (none)
      Do you happen to know how many of the 11 named storms turned into full-blown hurricanes? Ah, Google is my friend...I'll try to dig it up.

      Thanks, again for the correction.

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 04:58:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Got it... (none)
      From the National Weather Service in a press release titled NOAA: August 2005 Update to Atlantic Hurricane Season Outlook

      Issued: 2 August 2005

      The predicted seasonal totals include the considerable activity that has already occurred prior to this update (7 tropical storms and 2 major hurricanes). Therefore, for the remainder of the season, we expect an additional 11-14 tropical storms, with 7-9 becoming hurricanes, and 3-5 of these becoming major hurricanes. The expected ACE range during August-November is 110%-200% of the median. These very high levels of activity are comparable to those seen during August-November 2003 and 2004. Given the forecast that the remainder of the season will be very active, it is imperative that residents and government officials in hurricane-vulnerable communities have a hurricane preparedness plan in place.

      The predicted nearly 100% chance of an above-normal season is higher than the 70% likelihood indicated in NOAA's pre-season outlook issued May 16th. This increased certainty reflects the fact that the atmospheric and oceanic conditions favoring hurricane formation that were predicted in May are now in place. These conditions, combined with the high levels of activity already seen, make an above-normal season nearly certain.

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:05:36 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Did you count Lee & Maria (none)
        Luckily the Tropical Depression Lee broke up the other day as it was approaching the Islands. And Tropical Storm Maria is heading up towards Canada and probably back out to see. But if you look at the Atlantic radar maps, there are a lot of swirling storms out there right now. Whether they develop or not is still a mystery. The Pacific Cyclones are up to Nabi, as in their radar picture of the day. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
        The National Oceanic & Atmosperic Administration of the Dept of Commerce is the best place to keep track of any storms. So there are now 13 named storms with 8 names left.  They did not use Q,U, or X,Y,Z.

        Thanks for the interesting numbers.......

        •  Thanks, BarnBabe... (none)
          ...mustang gave me what I believe to be the updated #s downthread, too. I just recently updated the list to refect the 13 named storms/hurricanes you're mentioning here as well.

          Thanks for the hurricane help for a midwest gal like myself..

          Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

          by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:03:29 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  "Two women had miscarriages.." (none)
    MSNBC

    Culture of Life President performs abortions for NO women refuges.

    Day 6 of the Bush Depression

    Charter Member - ePluribus Media - Join and Donate - http://www.epluribusmedia.org/donate.htm

    "What is the noble cause?" Cindy Sheehan

    by just us on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:02:25 AM PDT

    •  This is so very sad too. (none)
      Not everyone's misery is the same, obviously.  It is unlikely we will ever know how many miscarriages and rapes could have been prevented and weren't.  But then, that's nothing new.
  •  ilona's diary (none)
    Thank you for the time and effort it took to bring us these facts. We all appreciate your efforts.

    Our politicians have a lot of explaining to do regarding their response to this tragedy.

    It is time to hold this administration responsible for thier actions, and lack thereof.

  •  Got the Foxies on in the background (none)
    they're already pumping the suggestion (sic) that evacuees from New Orleans just rebuild in their new home towns.

    This is a forced diaspora.

    The Pubs are already setting the groundwork for making Louisiana as Red a state as they can -- by scattering the population of a Democratic city to the four winds.

    It's only Nero-esque if the city is burning. :)

    by cskendrick on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:14:18 AM PDT

    •  Wow, cskendrick... (none)
      ...I hadn't thought of that consequence. Then again, I'm not Karl Rove.

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:38:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  bush (none)
      The loud one had obviously had a few drinks at the bar and this is probably why he was not more discreet. The gist of his comments was horrible to contemplate and it sounded like a top Nazi discussing Jews.

      It is well known here that the Bush family and many of the top advisers at the White House are racists but instead of detesting Jews, in this case, they all detest blacks. Their rationale, aside from their view of racial superiority, is that blacks are all "welfare queens, unwed mothers and drug dealers." It was the very firmly stated view of the host that it was better for everyone that New Orleans was under water for the time being.

      In that way, we were told (and I was not the only person in the dining room who heard all this), this served to "chase out the niggers" and permit Bush-supporting businessmen from buying up the soon-to-be condemned sodden houses for five cents on the dollar from friendly insurance companies (which one of them was a CEO of) and put up an enlarged and very profitable combination of industrial park and office building section. The money for this would, naturally, come from government grants which a terrified Congress (Mid Term elections are coming) had just voted for and the contracts to demolish the wrecked low-income slums would go, as a no-bid contract, to another stellar Bush supporter.

      The people of New Orleans have woken up to the fact that this government simply doesn't give a shit about them, and will continue to congratulate itself on the efforts it has taken while doing nothing. Spin and image control won't get a single refugee of this disaster taken care of, but that's where this administration's undivided attention will be out of fear that people in the rest of the country, perhaps not as poor, black and Democratic as the people in New Orleans, will realize that this government doesn't give a shit about them either and isn't interested in carrying out the functions we have normally associated with government. The right wing is interested in dwindling the federal government to nothing, so why on earth would they want to engage in any activity that unequivocally proves the need for a robust federal government via all sorts of liberal ideas like aid to disaster victims?

      As for the refugees, our table of proto-fascists all commented on the fact that most of them were on welfare and probably all voted Democratic so they could all be shipped to California or Chicago at the public expense and allowed to occupy less valuable public housing there.

      •  I think it's more generic than that (none)
        I think they'd eradicate every Democrat in the country if they could get away with it.

        It's only Nero-esque if the city is burning. :)

        by cskendrick on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:50:55 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Stunning (none)
        It's like the comment made by an old friend of ours from Slidell. We called her on Tuesday or Wednesday to see if she was ok and she said "at least the roads are out so now they (the people in the Superdome)CAN'T get out." Evidently, the idea of those people DYING was pleasing to her.

        I used wonder how the Nazi Holocaust could possibly have happened. Now I know it happened because of people who looked nice and clean and civilized on the outside but whose insides were bilious and putrid and morally corrupt.

        I'm not a believe but I really hope there does turn out to be a God so that s/he can bring justice to these evil, evil people.  

        •  1/2 human (none)
          I used wonder how the Nazi Holocaust could possibly have happened. Now I know it happened because of people who looked nice and clean and civilized on the outside but whose insides were bilious and putrid and morally corrupt.

          thinking exclusively out  of their Cortex-the Reptile Function.

  •  Wow. (none)
    Even with all these figures, I'm still unable to wrap my head around the magnitude of this tragedy. I occasionally take a smug pride in telling people I survived Hurricane Andrew and the triple hurricane bashing central Florida took in 2004. Those were walks in the park compared to Katrina.

    "How freeing it must be to walk through this world heeding neither conscience nor soul." - the rude pundit, 5/4/05

    by pattyp on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:28:14 AM PDT

  •  some shocking statistics (none)
    $ Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez offered the Red Cross: $1,000,000
  •  Other Bush Administration Numbers (none)
    9/11:  3,000 dead

    Iraq War:  2,000 US Soldiers dead, tens-of-thousands disabled, hundreds-of-thousands dead & disabled in next few years from depleted uranium.

    100,000 Iraqi civilians dead.

    millions of Iraqi civilians dead or disabled in next few years from depleted uranium.

    New Orleans:  up to 10,000 dead.

    Bush administration's preparedness and response to disasters:

    9/11:  Unprepared.
    Iraqi Insurgency:  Unprepared.
    Hurricane Katrina:  Unprepared.

    Future terrorist attacks in America:  Based on the above, UNPREPARED!!!!!!!!!

  •  Everything is all better now.... (none)
    Just got my morning paper, Daily Herald. Big front page photo. Shows Bush "comforting" a woman. Gives the impression everything is all better now. Another is a soldier with a young boy. Impression: No need to worry about those folk, Bush was there, he's working on it NOW, he took charge. What a fucking great leader! Makes me sick.
    Sadly, I am suspecting most morning papers have the same pictures with feel good captions too.
  •  Bravo! (none)
    Really important work.
    In Galveston, a century after the terrible hurricane, the marks of the storm are still present.
  •  Number of Named Atlantic Storms (none)
    The current number of Tropical Storms/Hurrcianes in the Atlantic basin is: 13

    The number of tropical depressions formed in the Atlantic basin: 15

    A voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

    by mustang dvs on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 06:19:43 AM PDT

    •  asdf (3.66)
      National Hurricane Center Graphic: Current Atlantic Tropical Danger Area

      From the NHC:

      SUMMARY TABLE

      NAME          DATES        MAX WIND   DEATHS   U.S. DAMAGE
            MPH        $MILLION
      ----------------------------------------------------------
      TS ARLENE     8-13 JUN        70        1
      TS BRET      28-29 JUN        40
      TS CINDY      3-7  JUL        70        0          x
      H DENNIS      4-12 JUL       150       32+        x
      H EMILY      11-21 JUL       155        5+        x
      TS FRANKLIN  21-29 JUL        70        0
      TS GERT      23-25 JUL        45        0
      TS HARVEY    2-8  AUG          65        0          
      H  IRENE     4-18 AUG         105        0          
      TD TEN      13-14 AUG          35        0
      TS JOSE     22-23 AUG          50        1          ?
      H  KATRINA  23-31 AUG         175        ?         ?
      TS LEE      28 AUG - 1 SEP     40        0
      TS MARIA    1 SEP -            ?        ?         ?
      ----------------------------------------------------------
      NOTE...DATES BASED ON COORDINATED UNIVERSAL TIME (UTC)
      x  PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE
      ? UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME

      A voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

      by mustang dvs on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 06:36:28 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  NHC 2005 Archive (none)
        The National Hurricane Center's 2005 Tropical Cyclone Archive is here: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/

        I guess that the September 1st tropical wave never became a TD; there have only been 14 tropical depressions and 13 named storms.

        A voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

        by mustang dvs on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 06:43:59 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Hurricane Season Shouldn't Be an Average... (none)
          Please edit the diary to correct this...

          The length of the Hurricane season is a set timeframe. It lasts, every year, from June 1st to November 30.

          A tropical cyclone that forms a day before or a day after the set season isn't considered a hurricane.

          In early 1996, a massive storm nailed coastal North Carolina. Had the exact same storm hit the state after June 1st, it would have been a category 2 hurricane, but because it wasn't officially within hurricane season, coastal residents simply refer to it as "the unnamed storm."

          NOAA Hurricane Season FAQ:

          The Atlantic hurricane season is officially from 1 June to 30 November. There is nothing magical in these dates, and hurricanes have occurred outside of these six months, but these dates were selected to encompass over 97% of tropical activity. The Atlantic basin shows a very peaked season from August through October, with 78% of the tropical storm days, 87% of the minor (Saffir-Simpson Scale categories 1 and 2) hurricane days, and 96% of the major (Saffir-Simpson categories 3, 4 and 5) hurricane days occurring then. Maximum activity is in early to mid September. Once in a few years there may be a tropical cyclone occurring "out of season" - primarily in May or December.

          A voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

          by mustang dvs on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 06:53:57 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Thanks again for the excellent corrections... (none)
            Done.

            Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

            by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 10:07:13 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  Am I correct (none)
        that the number of days watching Katrina before it came ashore is 7? Formed on Aug 23, hit New Orleans on Aug 29am?
        # of days Katrina is on the radar screen 7
        •  Nice find on this stat, enaud... (none)
          ...I'm going to include it. Thank you...

          Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

          by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 10:08:41 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  It did hit Florida... (none)
          Katrina impacted the southern tip of Florida on Thursday, August 25th.

          NHC Katrina Track Animation

          A voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

          by mustang dvs on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 12:18:34 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Track from Friday the 26th... (none)

            The 5pm forecast track showed landfall a little more to the east... This is the first forecast track to show the storm directly hitting New Orleans.

            A voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

            by mustang dvs on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 12:22:59 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  WHOOPS! (none)
              Sorry, I didn't realize that the image on the NHC site wasn't displayed at full size.

              Can the mods resize the image to 480 x 340?

              A voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

              by mustang dvs on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 12:24:29 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Yeah, this really makes the diary... (none)
                ...difficult to read. Has anyone ever known the dKos Gods/Goddesses to step in to correct something like this? The only other thing I can think of might be troll-rate it until it disappears. How many '0's does someone have to get before their post disappears? 2?

                Anyone else have any suggestions? I'd love for the diary to be easy-to-read, again.

                No biggie, though. :o)

                Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

                by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 02:08:13 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

  •  Holy crap. (4.00)
    I'm speechless.  Honestly speechless.
  •  Red Cross (none)
    No one is reporting about the Red Cross. There are people dying and none of the news organizations seem to be talking about how the Red Cross isn't being allowed into the city.

    I don't understand.

    •  things have been militarized n/t (none)
      •  And privatized... (none)
        ...Halliburton won't have any problem getting in, will they?

        Cyphrus42, you're right: absolutely deplorable about the Red Cross not being allowed in. Looking for a good link, and will add that to the list when I find one.

        Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

        by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:19:41 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Wouldn't be 3 terrorist attacks? (none)
    There was 9/11 and also the bombing of the World Trade Towers. Or was it planned for?  I think they said in general that New York would be attacked by terrorists.
    •  This is actually a good point.. (none)
      ...at the moment I forget which article I got the '2' figure from, but I know the piece is listed in my source box; but, it listed OK City and 9/11 as the 2 sole terrorist events.

      Just a hunch: I think the reason the '93 WTC bombing isn't included in this category may be because it wasn't declared a 'major disaster' by the federal government (?). I'm not sure on this one, just looking for an explanation as to why they might have left it off.

      Excellent point, though, WHSwarrior87.

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:15:41 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  We need a blog to document the screw-ups (4.00)
    A friend in Richmond emailed me this about an hour ago that "a group of Sheriffs from Virginia were asked by Louisiana sheriffs to come help, but the feds won't authorize it and called them off."  and that his "primarily black district here in Richmond is in the process of setting up as an evacuation site. I hear the buses for New Orleans have been called off again.  Unbelievable situation."
    •  I want to put some of these stats on the list... (none)
      ...and have been hunting for a few concrete MSM links which state how many of the past 5 days the government held FEMA or any other search & rescue personnel out of NOLA.

      Did FEMA ever go into NOLA this week?

      If anyone finds something along this line, could you please drop a link in here?

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:07:41 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  They Knew What to Expect (none)
    http://www.wired.com/news/planet/0,2782,68738,00.html

    Reuters

    09:38 AM Sep. 02, 2005 PT

    Virtually everything that has happened in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina struck was predicted by experts and in computer models, so emergency management specialists wonder why authorities were so unprepared.

    "The scenario of a major hurricane hitting New Orleans was well anticipated, predicted and drilled around," said Clare Rubin, an emergency management consultant who also teaches at the Institute for Crisis, Disaster and Risk Management at George Washington University.

    Computer models developed at Louisiana State University and other institutions made detailed projections of what would happen if water flowed over the levees protecting the city or if they failed.

    In July 2004, more than 40 federal, state, local and volunteer organizations practiced this very scenario in a five-day simulation code-named "Hurricane Pam," where they had to deal with an imaginary storm that destroyed over half a million buildings in New Orleans and forced the evacuation of a million residents.

  •  New Political Comics at The Hollywood Liberal (none)
    Hey,
    Check out the latest Political Comics at The Hollywood Liberal.

    The Sunshine Boys, Together Again

    HLs Blog

    If you like it there are lots more at. HLs Comic Feature Page

    Thank You

  •  Great work == comments / requests ... (none)
    Excellent compliliation -- thank you.

    Some thoughts and requests (for everyone):

    We should compile (again) and shame the Rethugs re pork in the Transportation and Energy bills.  We should strive to have these bills brought back into Congress for restructuring, moving money to the Gulf Coast, and removing pork.

    Excellent examples for political hay include:

    •  Transportation bill allocation to building Alaska bridge to uninhabited island: $231 million:  Alaska has two Rethug senators and a Rethug Congressman.  There is a massively disproportionate movement of transportation funds to Alaska -- not just for useful projects (even if not necessarily as valuable as projects elsewhere) but also for extremely self-aggrandizing pork.  Isn't this the bridge that the Congressman (Young) is having named after himself? A long tag line would be:  "Republican Congress cares more about funding their egos with your dollars than working to solve America's problems."

    • Energy bill subsidies for the oil industry:  There is going to be an ever-growing cry about price gauging and profiteering by oil and other fossil fuel companies as gas, heating oil, and natural gas prices skyrocket.  The Energy bill was stuff with benefits for these companies, many of who will see skyrocketing profits amid the coming recession.  

    Seems a viable / useful task would be to return to these bills to call out the pork and call for reform / restructuring.  Not to 'eliminate' the spending, but to move the money to meet the nation's needs in the near and long term.

    For example, the roughly $25 billion of pork in the transportation bill for the next five years would have paid the entire bill for the massive Coast Guard recapitalization / modernization program (Deepwater) that is to take 20+ years.  Which serves the nation more and is likely to protect American citizens facing the next New Orleans disaster?

    26 August 05, Day 1445 ... Osama still "wanted dead or alive"

    by besieged by bush on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:25:48 AM PDT

  •  One more (none)
    # of foreign dignitaries trapped in NOLA shelters after the city flooded: at least 1

    From AmericaBlog

    Thanks for compiling this, ilona. It's sobering, even without the images coming over the TV and 'net.

  •  Also worthwile ... (none)
    Data on flow (by numbers) of military forces.

    For example, how many USCG helicopters were in the area Friday morning?  Why does that matter?  Because the WPE (Worst President Ever) tied up at least two USCG helicopters for a photo op behind him in Mobile for several hours when they could have been out flying rescue missions.  My preliminary estimate is that the tie up meant that there were roughly 20-40 people who otherwise might have been rescued by helicopter that weren't so that Turd Boy could set up a photo op for the WPE.  This could mean that the President's photo op can be directly linked to the deaths of tens of Americans ...  

    26 August 05, Day 1445 ... Osama still "wanted dead or alive"

    by besieged by bush on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:31:44 AM PDT

  •  criminal incompetence (none)

    # of days since hurricane Katrina slammed into the US Gulf Coast: 5
    # of days before US federal government response: 4



    It's even worse than that.


    Number of days since George Bush issued a Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisana directing assistance and relief from DHS and FEMA before a significant National Guard presence began to establish order:  8


    August 26 is the day the order went out to start the efforts. 8 fucking days is criminal. Just criminal

    __
    beware of that small group of selfish men who would clip the wings of the American eagle in order to feather their own nests.

    by petr on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:33:24 AM PDT

    •  Thank you so much for this, petr... (none)
      ...it will be up in just a few minutes. Hot damn.

      Excellent find.

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 11:55:32 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Size of Devastated Area (none)
    Approx equal to the United Kingdom.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 08:34:03 AM PDT

  •  deaths (none)
    is there a semi-accepted casaulty estimate for NOLA? because for awhile it was "hundreds". i can't see how it could be anything less than "thousands," especially as the days pass.

    and 10,000?

    i hear npr shows on the disruption of grain shipments and how long we'll "feel it at the pump" and with TEN THOUSAND PEOPLE DEAD i'm don't have to be at the fucking pump to feel it. the helplessness of sitting and watching is getting to me.

  •  # of empty acres on Bush's ranch: 1600 (none)
    # of WH officials/cabinet secretaries still on vacation:  at least one (Cheney)

    some i'd like to know (if anyone has nexis/lexis access):

    # of times Bush has mentioned gas prices/speech

    # days between landfall and response for last (election) year's hurricanes in FL

  •  The scariest numbers are yet to be counted (none)
    The number of dead.

    The price of rebuilding NO.

    The cost to our economy

    The news happens 3 hours sooner on the "left coast"

    by bleeding blue on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 09:33:44 AM PDT

  •  Bushed (none)
    Given our experience with Bush as our so-called "leader", the word "bush" has taken on new meaning as a verb:

        bushed, v. (bsht)
        1. fucked

    Language Barrier

  •  Days Bush "understands" the disaster (none)
    will need attention: more than one.

    Everybody talkin' 'bout Heaven ain't goin' there -- Mahalia Jackson

    by DaveW on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 10:39:32 AM PDT

  •  Costs (none)
    As someone was saying this morning, the real cost of  this -- plus Iraq and the highway bill and all the other horrors of the Bush -- era will not be felt by the "average American" until it hits really really hard about six months from now.   The impact won't be nice; worse, it will hit when some are in the throes of midwinter along the northern tier.  

    One thing, though:  next year is an election year.  I wonder if it there will be both an election and an impeachment? [Or neither?]

  •  Categorization (none)
    CategoryKatrina

    CategoryRacism

    CategoryPoverty

    CategoryClimate

    CategoryEconomy

    CategoryDomesticPolicy

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    Compile Info re Help Offered-Rejected/Delayed  

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  •  I asked for a list but.... (none)
    Unbelievable list and I'm sure that it is just a partial one.

    Thanks!

    "Kudos to those willing to stick their necks out over the block, before the rest of us are willing to admit we are reading the diary!"

    by midwestmom on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 05:16:53 PM PDT

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