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Re-bumped -- Armando

(Bumped -- kos)

So here's the primer. In short, firefighters who volunteered to help save and help people, were instead forced to act as human props as Bush walked around pretending to do stuff.

Billmon responds in his usual brilliant way:

I guess this is what Bush was talking about yesterday when he called himself a "problem solver." But one of these days he and the Rovians really ought to take a stab at trying to solve other people's problems.

I'm just surprised they didn't shove some boots and a helmet on Shrub and stick him behind the wheel of a fire engine. Maybe with a big banner on the side: "Lets Roll!"

So what's next? Will they round up some doctors and have them tag along with Shrub while he visits patients at an emergency field hospital? (Ideally, a tidy tent full of young, attractive African American patients -- nothing bloody or threatening.) Surely that can be arranged.

Or how about a town meeting with the engineers plugging the levee breaks? They could explain what they're doing and show Shrub their plans, and he could nod his head and pretend like he understands what they're talking about. That shouldn't take more than a half a day out of their schedule. And what's another half day when most of those people have been trapped in their attics for a week already?

Now, the firefighters who volunteered to help and save people, and have been ignored and neglected by FEMA unless it's to act as human props for Dear Leader. And god forbid they get pissed about it!

On Monday, some firefighters stuck in the staging area at the Sheraton peeled off their FEMA-issued shirts and stuffed them in backpacks, saying they refuse to represent the federal agency.

Federal officials are unapologetic.

"I would go back and ask the firefighter to revisit his commitment to FEMA, to firefighting and to the citizens of this country," said FEMA spokeswoman Mary Hudak.

Idiots. But now the GOP is in full protect mode. Not "protect the people" mode, mind you, but "protect Bush at all costs" mode. And part of that "protect" mode means lying to journalists about who's to blame, seeking to muddy the issue and introduce enough uncertainty into the debate that it takes pressure off the guy in charge.

The Washington Post and Newsweek have both run blind quotes from a "senior administration official" claiming that Blanco screwed up by not declaring a state of emergency -- a factual assertion that those reporters could have quickly and easily have verified on the record. David Brock of Media Matters writes a letter to the Washington Post (and Newsweek, I'm sure, isn't far behind):

The use of anonymous sources has come under attack from many quarters in recent weeks. We at Media Matters for America are not among those who contend that anonymous sources should never be used. To the contrary, we fully understand that anonymous sources are often vital to uncovering stories that those with power do not want told.

In this case, however, the Post reporter's reliance on an anonymous source defies reason. The statement made by the anonymous source was an assertion of fact that could have been easily refuted. Blanco's declaration was widely reported at the time it was made, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune reprinted an August 27 letter from Blanco to President Bush in which she noted that she had declared the state of emergency. That the Post allowed itself to be the conduit by which "a senior Bush official" delivered a political attack -- the accuracy of which could have been determined quickly and on the record -- is unconscionable.

It is bad enough that the paper quoted an anonymous "source" spinning, but, in this case, the source was, put simply, lying. The Post's correction is far from adequate. It would seem to us that if your newspaper discovers that an anonymous source blatantly lied to one of your reporters, the implied contract of the source-journalist relationship has been broken, and the source has forfeited his or her right to anonymity. Further, the fact that a "senior Bush official" is lying in an apparent effort to blunt criticism of the Bush administration seems extremely newsworthy -- the sort of information that should be the topic of an article in your newspaper, not merely hinted at in a two-sentence correction.

Reporters might protest that a policy of "outing" dishonest sources would make others less likely to talk in the future. But are your readers' interests best served by the reporter-source relationship as it exists now? If this incident is any indication, the answer seems to be no. The "senior Bush official" will suffer no consequences and will be free to spin, smear, and lie again in the pages of the Post or other news outlets -- all without revealing his or her identity.

I can't believe the DC media has so fallen, is so utterly corrupt and compromised, that this is even a point of debate.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:15 PM PDT.

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  •  And yeah (4.00)
    I'm supposed to be writing a book. If I miss my deadlines, can we blame Bush's incompetence? I should take my cues from the GOP and simply blame someone else.
    •  I know some San Francisco firefighters (none)
      who might pose with you for the dust jacket!

      I am so far to the left I can almost see the right again.

      by beagleandtabby on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:04:20 AM PDT

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      •  That's brilliant (4.00)
        Seriously, a recreation of the above photo with Kos rolling up his sleeves would be a stroke of genius!!! (Or Kos could go with the tried an true flight suit with a large sock stuffed you know where...)

        "We can win elections only by standing up for what we believe." --Howard Dean

        by Jim in Chicago on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:15:08 AM PDT

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          •  wasting rescue firefighters 4 pr (none)
            Unbelievable. Beyond incompetence; reprehensible.


            This is absolutely terrible, a real shame. How bad, desperate and pathetic does bush/rove have to get to waste (exploit, insult, disrespect, manipulate) valuable rescue/aid workers and firefighters to hype their ridiculous PR photo ops 4 publicity rather than allowing firefighters (and people who have generously & charitably volunteered their time) who want to help victims actually do their job? A travesty, alarming, downright detestible.

            •  can we get the Firefighters interviewed? (none)
              I'd love to see an interview on TV with these firefighters complaining about being used for Bush's photo op while the people they wanted to rescue were being ignored
                •  gitlin tpm excerpt (none)
                  sound-bite: Bob Williams of Washington State, op-ed in Wall Street Journal...on ABC World News Tonight, CNN's Lou Dobbs, and elsewhere, saying more or less what he said in the op-ed, to wit:  "Many in the media are turning their eyes toward the federal government, rather than considering the culpability of city and state officials....there is definitely a time for accountability; but what isn't fair is to dump on the federal officials and avoid those most responsible -- local and state officials who failed to do their job as the first responders. The plain fact is, lives were needlessly lost in New Orleans due to the failure of Louisiana's governor, Kathleen Blanco, and the city's mayor, Ray Nagin." ...Williams notes that he is "a former state legislator who represented the legislative district most impacted by the eruption of Mount St. Helens in 1980."  ABC thus reasonably called him "former Washington State Representative."

                  But ABC didn't recap Mr. Williams' WSJ blurb:  he is "president of the Evergreen Freedom Foundation, a free market public policy research organization in Olympia, Wash."...the EFF describes itself: "Our mission is to advance individual liberty, free enterprise, and limited and accountable government."

                  Limited accountability for Republican officials--there's a bumper sticker ready to fly around the world.  Available from your freedom-loving compatriots at the Freedom Foundation for Truth.

                  in other words a desperate CYA cover up by bushco.

                  •  freeping spin (none)
                    Armando raises a good point in his freeping dairy: 'How come the President didn't urge Brownie to get off his ass and do his job? Better yet, how come the President didn't get off HIS ass and do HIS job?'

                    Damn straight! What's more:


                    Why do over 15 fires burn out of control in New Orleans as we speak while urgently needed firefighters are used as publicity props to hand out flyers and prevented from entering the city and helping with the effort as msm (local news in blue state) heroically shows images and reports 'New York City firefighters were the first to the scene and are the only firefighters fighting fires in New Orleans as payback for 911'? Sound familiar? Remember conflation between Iraq and 911? I can't believe how sick this is.

                    In addition to fema's inexcusable delayed response, what's frightening and alarming is 'convey a positive image' is current fema policy:


                    Geez, disaster relief as media op?!! Outrageous and inexcusable. How bad does it have to get? How many people have to die? Is anyone going to do the right thing? We need to stop and stand up to this.

                    Hillary is calling for an independent investigation. And if folks in congress and the media are having the courage to demand they cut the crap on this nonsense. Give em hell Harry & Pelosi--go get em!

                •  Blame Game Update. Only 13% Blame Bush? (none)
                  Somebody had better hop on this right freakin' now.

                  After everyone here has taken the good time and trouble to prove that Bush deserves 100% of the blame, the current state of play in the Blame Game  - courtesy of CNN/USATODAY/GALLUP -  breaks out like this:

                  Blame Bush.....13%
                  Blame Federal Agencies....18%
                  Blame State & Local Officials...25%
                  Blame Nobody.....38%
                  Dont Know.........6%

                  Now this poll shows Bush running an 87 point deficit (deserves 100% but only gets 13%) in the Blame Game. This is clearly unacceptable. Question now is who here should shoulder the blame for this really poor performance.

            •  FEMA sure worked better (none)
              when Democrats were in charge.

              In fact, everything in the federal government was working better when Democrats were in charge.

              It's as if Republicans are deliberately screwing up all the federal agencies to prove their claim that the federal government is no good.

              They do seem to be proving one point: Under Republicans, the federal government is totally screwed up.

          •  yes, yes, this needs to be out there more (none)
            When clinton got FEMA in 1992 it was a messed up slow-to-respond and (as the article you link to states) a "political dumping ground," with "10 times the proportion of political appointees of most other government agencies."

            here's a great quote from that article

            Sam Jones, the mayor of Franklin, Louisiana, says he was shocked to find that the damage assessors sent to his town a week after [the  hurricane] had no disaster experience whatsoever. "They were political appointees, members of county Republican parties hired on an as-needed basis.... They were terribly inexperienced."

            Sounds familiar?

            or how about this?

            Governor Rafael Hernandez-Colon sent the proper federal aid request forms to FEMA headquarters in Washington. One scrupulous bureaucrat, however, noticed that the governor had failed to check one section of the form. Dutifully, the FEMA worker sent the request back--via the U.S. mail.

            Yeah, Governor Blanco didn't fill out the forms correctly, right?

            Both incidents happened under Bush's watch - Poppy Bush that is.

            Clinton cleaned it up and put surprise, surprise someone competent who had experience in charge  James Lee Witt who had served the state of Arkansas as  director of the Office of Emergency Services.

            But with Bush, the son we got back to same old, same old. Incompentent poltical appointees, delays, run-around.

            I highly suggest that people read the article.

        •  Maybe Kos could be playing guitar... (none)
          with Jerome in the the dude in the Bush/Guitar photo.  Or the other way around.

          Isn't this a co-project?

          I am so far to the left I can almost see the right again.

          by beagleandtabby on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:27:54 AM PDT

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        •  Kos can't pose in a Military Uniform (none)
          because he actually served.

          It would be tacky and undemocratic.

          He could play a doctor on TV like Bill Frist.

          I am so far to the left I can almost see the right again.

          by beagleandtabby on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:55:41 AM PDT

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      •  If they won't, (none)
        I might be able to round up some from Cleveland.  ;)
    •  Yes, it's Bush's fault! (none)
      If he wasn't so stupifyingly incompetent, you wouldn't be distracted by the continual blunders and you'd be able to work on your book.

      BTW: You really can't believe this?

      I can't believe the DC media has so fallen, is so utterly corrupt and compromised, that this is even a point of debate.

      The Media Is Dead. Long Live

      by KingOneEye on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:06:49 AM PDT

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    •  I wasn't going to say a word about it. (none)
    •  Much respect to you Markos. (none)
      Your work here is helping me find my voice. I don't have a soapbox to stand on but I keep trying. My local paper keeps getting letters like this:

      Since WWII, too many Americans have come to  believe that unlimited petroleum, unlimited shopping, and unlimited power and prestige on the world stage is their birthright. The attitude (which I saw over and over in the USAF) is that:
      1."We're the good guys. Always have been and always will be."
      1. "If you oppose us we'll shock and awe you into a lingering cloud of pink mist."
      2. "We don't need to do a thorough moral inventory and, when wrong, promptly admit it. For justification, see Rule 1."
      This is what M. Scott Peck observed in people "unwilling to bear the pain of personal responsibility."
      Military training is outdated. It focuses too much on dehumanizing people and institutionalizing some of the worst aspects of human nature. I  know because I spent 9 years in the military. The Bush administration has chosen to respond to the disaster in New Orleans with a military operation rather than a rescue operation. Some  potential consequences include:
      1.The control of information for political gain, so that media outlets cannot broadcast the full extent of the devastation. Same as what's happening in Iraq.
      2.Rebuilding efforts are "privatized" to real estate firms and corporations loyal to the Bush administration so that high revenue structures like casinos, hotels, and condos can replace the neighborhoods where poor people used to live.
      3.New Orleans becomes the focal point of racial strife and civil unrest.
      4.People who don't support "hurricane relief" and Bush's other efforts to "spread freedom" are treated like "insurgents."
      "Freedom" does not mean the same thing to Bush 43 as it did to Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower. It's time for Americans to realize that.
    •  Do you Suppose (none)
      the idiotic idea to use the firefighters as human Props Might have something to Do witht he fact that The #2, and #3 officals at FEMA's only previous experience  was running those fake SS "rallies"?

      An official biography of Brown's top aide, acting deputy director Patrick Rhode, doesn't list disaster relief experience.

      The department's No. 3 official, acting deputy chief of staff Brooks Altshuler, also does not have emergency management experience, according to FEMA spokeswoman Natalie Rule...

      Rhode and Altshuler worked in the White House's Office of National Advance Operations, which arranges Bush's travel and scripts his appearances.

      I wonder if either of the are really the Fake secret service guy who harassed the Denver 3?  A screw up that bad HAD to be worth a promotion no?

      Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

      by Magorn on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:20:37 AM PDT

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    •  anyway to contact these firefighters? (none)
      We need to get their views on this on tape now.
    •  Blame it on an asteroid... (none)
      ...after all, that is what Bush's photo op you have the pic of is trinyg to evoke... some lame Armageddon/Jerry Bruckheimer moment:

      Image Hosted by

      It is so lame, and so pathetic that it would be laugh-out-loud funny were it not killing people and leaving them to be eaten by dogs... and no, that's not hyperbole:


      Mitch Gore

      Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

      by Lestatdelc on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:26:27 PM PDT

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    •  Yes (none)
      In fact, I encourage you to miss your deadline and insist that there be no consequences and that you need to focus on the future act of writing that you may or may not be able to do. Then send your book to the wrong Charleston.

      "I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend." Oh and I blog with gusto!

      by Chris Copy Editor on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:38:57 PM PDT

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  •  It's astonishing to me how deep my contempt (none)
    for George Bush is.  I remember as a teenager hating Richard Nixon, but there was a level at which I respected him.

    First things first, but not necessarily in that order.

    by DCDemocrat on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:00:47 AM PDT

    •  Where (none)
      exactly does the buck stop with these clowns? What does it say about an administration that never wants to take responsibility for anything?

      The unaccountable flow of spin is almost as disgusting as the willingess to protect Bush above all else.

      •  The buck stops (4.00)
        with the people who give them their consent. The Declaration of Independence says government derives "it's just powers from the consent of the governed."

        It's time for us to withdraw our consent. How that's gonna play out I don't know. I don't think the answer is armed revolution. That worked out for the best when only muskets and cannons were involved. I think something different is required now and I don't know exactly what.

        •  Exactly! (none)
          It is OUR FUCKING GOVERNMENT. When did we become a nation of complacent diabetic couch potato sloths?

          Laughing at the Daily Show won't cut it anymore. It won't. It's funny, but THIS SHIT CANNOT BE MADE INTO SATIRE. This shit can't be laughed away. We are watching our nation disintegrate before our eyes.

    •  Contempt doesn't approach what I feel (none)
      I felt utter dread the day he was sworn in the first time. I knew these people would be bad news.

      My disgust, revulsion, hatred - whatever you want to call it - is total. It is eating away at every moment of my life, every interaction with other people.

      The only thing I still wonder is how huge the next Bush disaster will be. Will he cause an entire country to disappear? Will he let another US city be FUCKING DESTROYED?

      I'm losing it, for real. This is corrosive to being.

      George Bush prancing on the aircraft carrier: one of America's worst moments

      by grushka on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:05:38 AM PDT

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      •  A Little Misdirection Play Here (2.66)
        If you read the article, the firefighters weren't "pissed" at being "forced" to pose with Bush, as the diarist strongly implied, the firefighters were "pissed" at being forced to attend a sexual harrassment class.

        Being pissed at that bit of PC, of course, is completely understandable, as anyone who has wasted a day in one of those seminars knows full well.

        Will someone notify Media Matters on this?

        •  I'm sorry you had to (4.00)
          attend a seminar on sexual harassment. That PC shit sucks, huh? Government fucking everything up, right?

          PC is SUCH bullshit. You should be able to make any jokes you want, right? Touchy blacks, and 'Ricans, and chicks - they're the worst, right? And don't get me started on gays.

          You republican troll piece of shit conservative fuck face. Get the fuck away from me, you scum.

          George Bush prancing on the aircraft carrier: one of America's worst moments

          by grushka on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:00:28 AM PDT

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          •  You caught on grushka (none)
            Its a troll
          •  Your characterization of nyctex (none)
            may be completely accurate.

            But there's a point buried in what he said: there's an appropriate time and place for making firefighters attend day-long sexual harrassment seminars. In the middle of an emergency when their primary skills are needed to save lives is -- self-evidently -- not that time. I don't blame them one bit for being pissed.

            If I had to choose between a) being rescued by a firefighter who made stupid racist or sexist jokes while he did it, or b) drowning in an attic... let me tell you, I wouldn't stop to argue with him about his bad attitude. Later, maybe, if ever I met him afterwards. But not while he was getting me out of danger.

            Those guys were there to help with a vitally important job. Diverting them to a seminar on anything just then was worse than negligent, it was criminal.

            Folly is fractal: the closer you look at it, the more of it there is. - TNH

            by Canadian Reader on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:25:44 AM PDT

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            •  not to mention.... (none)
              that a lot of these guys probably already get sexual harassment training from their department at home...hell, I got a part-time job cashiering at Borders and I got a sexual harassment video.  By the time you are a full-grown adult, your attitudes and behaviors are well-formed.  Just let these guys do their real jobs, for god's sake.

              "At my signal, unleash hell."

              by JerseyBredFilly on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:33:28 AM PDT

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              •  Their 'real' jobs? (none)
                What the fuck does that mean in THIS context?

                Their real jobs are to be props for Bush right now. period.

                This whole "sexual harrassment" seminar BULLSHIT makes it sound like "liberals" are keeping them from saving lives.

                jesus. Can't you figure out how the whole right wing argument industrial complex works?

                George Bush prancing on the aircraft carrier: one of America's worst moments

                by grushka on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:37:01 AM PDT

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                •  no one likes.... (none)
                  taking a sexual harassment course....I think the real point of the story, which I really think does get across nevertheless, is that they thought they'd be sent down there to do some good, and instead they're passing out flyers and propping up Bush's failing image.  When volunteers come from outside the area, it is standard operating procedure to give some kind of crash course seminar to make sure they are all on the same page....the problem here is that that "same page" is PR, and not S&R.  

                  I've also never thought of sexual harassment training as being a "liberal" thing, as much as the conservative corporate world patronizing women and minorities by saying "see?  we're doing our part, now stop your bitching and conform."  

                  "At my signal, unleash hell."

                  by JerseyBredFilly on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:47:05 AM PDT

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                  •  I guess you don't understand (none)
                    how the right wing generates fake controversies.

                    First, you're right about "PC" seminars: they ARE just corporations throwing a bone to minorities and women. Pure papering-over of real issues. But they are seen as liberal PC police by everyone who attends them. Please tell me you realize that.

                    Now, when a conservative reads THIS article about firefighters attending FEMA sexual harrassment sessions, what do you think they're saying?

                    How about: "liberals complain about FEMA?? It's because of liberal/democrats these firefighters have to sit through sexual harrassment seminars! This is bullshit!"

                    Think about this for a few minutes. Don't you realize the right has an endless, shameless well of phony controversies to deflect attention from the central issues?

                    And you're falling for it, hook line and sinker.

                    George Bush prancing on the aircraft carrier: one of America's worst moments

                    by grushka on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:51:22 AM PDT

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                    •  respectfully, (none)
                      I'm not falling for anything....I don't give a crap if they have to go to harrassment training....I don't think they should have to, but the real point is that once that training is over, they still arent' going to be able to do what they thought they were going down there for.

                      Besides the fact that BushCo's been running FEMA for over 5 years now....if they don't like it, they had ample opportunity to change it while they were gutting everything else in that agency.  If some winger charges that FEMA is liberal and "making" them do "liberal PC crap", then that's the argument I'd come back with.  

                      Maybe it's b/c I'm not a stupid winger, but what I got out of that article is that their talents are being wasted handing out flyers, not that they have to go to harassment training.  

                      "At my signal, unleash hell."

                      by JerseyBredFilly on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:02:28 PM PDT

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            •  Spare me the pseudo argument (none)

              These firefighters are being used as props for Bush. That was the whole point of this thread.

              This "sexual harrassment" seminar stuff... whatever. Who cares 8what the fuck* they're doing there. They were never intended to do anything useful.

              And by highlighting the "PC" aspect of their time-wasting, you're just igniting a republican pseudo-controversy.

              You're allowing some winger to spout off about liberals forcing firefighters to attend sexual harrassment seminars, fer chrissake, during a crisis.

              Please read this post. Think about it. Understand it. Then respond if you must.

              George Bush prancing on the aircraft carrier: one of America's worst moments

              by grushka on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:33:47 AM PDT

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              •  Don't fight your friends, grushka. (none)
                If you read what I said, I began by saying that your assessment of this guy as a right-wing troll was probably dead accurate.

                And, um, I'm not "allowing" him to spout anything. I don't have that much power. Only Kos could ban him from the site.

                But don't get so upset. Nobody here is falling for the PC red herring; we're all old hands at recognizing republican talking points and ignoring them.

                The only discussion here is, which was worse, letting Bush do one of his idiotic photo-ops with them, which would have lasted maybe 5 minutes, or refusing their services altogether and just handing them a bit of irrelevant busy-work when they should have been out there saving lives.

                I'm open to being convinced that the photo-op was worse, in the larger scheme of things, if it ultimately contributes to Bush dodging responsibility -- again! But, not letting these firefighters get right on to the rescue work they came to do is really really bad, too.

                Okay, maybe they did need a half-hour orientation seminar, so they'd know how they would fit into the existing communication infrastructure and which part of the huge rescue job they were going to be assigned to do.

                But... that would have required FEMA to have had a plan for using outside help.

                Folly is fractal: the closer you look at it, the more of it there is. - TNH

                by Canadian Reader on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:47:54 PM PDT

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                •  Sorry... (none)
                  I just get so frustrated, as we all do, when I see how easy it is for wingers to destroy the fundamental nature of discourse as a means of finding something that approximates "truth."

                  man, the right are relativists extraordinaire.

                  George Bush prancing on the aircraft carrier: one of America's worst moments

                  by grushka on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 01:07:21 PM PDT

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          •  You're not getting it (none)
            The sexual harrasment class is bullshit because it does nothing.  You send a ass-spanking, titty groping brute to a sexual harrasment class, and you know what comes out?  An ass-spanking, titty groping brute.  The classes are utterly useless.

            But what's worse is, this is not the time for rescure workers to learn that sexual harrasment is wrong.  People are DYING.  More is at stake than a few squeezed titties.  

            This is the kind of shit that gives liberals a bad name.  When we get hung up on mother hen details like this, we miss the big picture.

            Troll away.  I guess I'll get lots of trolls since I went against CW here.  Groupthink is alive and well.

            "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize." -James Madison

            by Subterranean on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 10:39:48 AM PDT

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        •  Misdirection, indeed (none)
          An agency run by a Bush crony making the firefighters do "liberal PC crap" to misdirect any shitstorm that develops over their being used as the Chimp's prop.

          I don't hear of Blanco or Nagin running any PC seminars during this crisis.

    •  I'd take Nixon now easily over Bush (4.00)
      He was a liar and crook..but at least his lies and crookery were defined. I didn't sense the planet, and America were at risk, even at the depths of Watergate


      anyone who wants talking points and info on some key senators to call to voice your outrage over Bush in general and the hurricane can email me

      People can effectively use their influence if they keep hounding them

      and praise the good media that are speaking out

      •  that's ...typo (none)
      •  Nixon was a piker... (none)
        ..compared to this guy.  He may have committed a crime in covering up his little two-bit burglary, he may have been a demented, racist psychopath, but in his most paranoid night-sweats he never dreamed of trying to run the kind of demolition job on the country Bush and his cronies are attemting.  These guys make me YEARN for Nixon, and I hated the worthless bum with every fiber of my being at the time.
        •  sfsadfsa (none)
          "Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against . . .We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

          the word piker triggered my memory of that quote. im sure not everyone around here enjoys randian objectivism (i have a few disagreements with it too) but her analysis of governmental control is dead on. just figured id share :)
    •  hahaha. (none)
      how very sad. how very accurate.

      "I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend." Oh and I blog with gusto!

      by Chris Copy Editor on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:39:26 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  So they are ALL bald-faced liars (none)
    Their strategy is to blatantly lie and know they're lying.  Nobody likes fucking liars.  Even those who are in the media hate liars.

    "As the Constitution endures, persons in every generation can invoke its principles in their own search for greater freedom." Justice Kennedy, Lawrence v Texas

    by HillaryGuy on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:05:19 AM PDT

  •  Karl Rove (4.00)
    When will the curtain be lifted here? In insider reports, the media snicker/hint about Rove orchestrating all the crap, but when we watch the evening news, Karl Rove's name is never mentioned.

    It's time for the insiders to quit the shit and tell the truth to the american people about the bullshit photo ops, the anon smearing with lies, and the rest of the garbage.

    It's just like CIA/Plame. Most of the journalists in D.C. knew it was Rove, but they pretended that the cocktail party conversations never existed. It's bullshit and we need to call them on it.

    •  privately, some MSM journalists even believe (none)
      • That Paul O'Neill's account of planning the invasion of Iraq well before 9/11 is, in fact, true!

      • That the minutes of Cabinet meetings in 2001 published in O'Neill's book, minutes in which "post crisis Iraq" was the topic of discussion, are, in fact, real documents!

      • That the Downing Street Memo of July 2002, which says intelligence was being fixed around the facts long before Americans had even heard Saddam was a threat to us, is literally true!

      Can you imagine a reporter in The New York Times or the Washington Post, let alone Newsweek or any of the network television programs, actually developing these story lines, and drawing the conclusion that Bush administration officials have been criminally dishonest? Frankly, it's easier for me to imagine losing another US city than it is to imagine the Washington Post or New York Times doing as much.

      "[I]n all due respect to your profession [journalism], you do a very good job of protecting the leakers." -- Bush on Oct 7, 2003

      by QuickSilver on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:40:42 AM PDT

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      •  My personal views on the truth content (none)
        That the Downing Street Memo of July 2002, which says intelligence was being fixed around the facts long before Americans had even heard Saddam was a threat to us, is literally true!
        I believe that the Memo was an historical document and that it's literal truth is not to be interpreted as such. With this in mind, there is room for both God and Dinosaurs.

        "I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend." Oh and I blog with gusto!

        by Chris Copy Editor on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:40:57 PM PDT

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    •  Rove's Good Soldiers (none)
      Too many people are covering for these assholes. Is this the lesson learned from Watergate? Cover for your leader (Rove) come hell or highwater?


      Perhaps this highwater of Katrina will make the bottom level of the house of cards get soggy and collapse.

      I can dream, can't I? This daily piling on is getting to be psychologically draining. How much incompetence can be on display day after day? I feel punch-drunk.

  •  Rovians make me sick (none)
    I'm speechless.  Utterly speechless.
  •  time to rename (none)
    rove and bartlett, Sirs Spam-A-LOT!
  •  Look (none)
    Look at dickhead bush rolling up his sleeves. Like he is gonna really do something.  More than likely he has stumbled across a red cross station is is gonna grab of few donuts from the poor.
  •  If you still support the presidency of W. (4.00)
    contact Dr. Jack Kevorkian immediately!  

    Your body might be functioning quite well, but your brain is on life support!

    I am so far to the left I can almost see the right again.

    by beagleandtabby on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:06:56 AM PDT

  •  David Brock has it exactly right (4.00)
    If a source desiring anonymity deliberately spreads lies, the reporter should reveal the identity of the source, and say that the source tried to use his/her anonymity to lie.  Out them.

    In loving memory: Sophie, June 1, 1993-January 17, 2005. My huckleberry friend.

    by Paul in Berkeley on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:06:59 AM PDT

    •  Yeah but (none)
      What if the reporter doesn't care? Isn't it possible that the media knows it's printing lies but does it anyway? The alternatives would be:

      1. writing a story that exposes the WH lies, risking retribution

      2. leaving the mess alone and coming up with an entirely new story

      Maybe they just take the path of least resistance and let the chips fall. After all, the WH has never taken a serious hit for lying before, why should it be any different now?

      That it was so easy to find out the truth makes me suspicious.

  •  Those Firefighter's clothes are amazing clean.... (none)
    ...for men supposedly involved in search & rescue in a disaster zone!
  •  40% of America is asleep (4.00)
    mendacious, ignorant, God-soaked. Whatever. 40% is LOST to debate, discussion, appeals to humanity.

    And this bedrock solid 40% is enough for Bush to do whatever he wants, and his people todo whatever they want, indefinitely.

    There's no escape. I'm sorry, there isn't. We are hostage to this 40%, and nothing will change.

    George Bush prancing on the aircraft carrier: one of America's worst moments

    by grushka on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:07:14 AM PDT

    •  My thoughts exactly (4.00)
      God is telling them to vote Republican, and no matter what in reality shows you otherwise, you have to follow God's wishes.

      Ack, reason itself is in danger in the USA.

    •  Here's a worse thought (none)
      They are awake and they are watching TV.  So how do they still support Bush?  Why do people vote against their own best interests?

      Couldn't be the education system, could it?  Which used to be the foundation of democracy?  

      dogmatism is dangerous

      by Doctor R on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:05:04 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Break down that 40% (none)
        A small percent of them are the rich, the corporate elite, the profiteering.

        Another small-ish percent are white racists, voting agains the party of blacks (see: Republican Southern Strategy).

        Another solid percentage are religious right. Abortion/Gays/prayer in public school are their issues.

        Finally, add in the gun nuts, anti-government types, and so on.

        Some overlap between the groups (except the rich elite, who stand apart, calling the shots), but there you have the solid 40% that ain't going away and are utterly resistant to reason.

        George Bush prancing on the aircraft carrier: one of America's worst moments

        by grushka on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:14:23 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  During the last election (none)
          my husband figured out that people who vote Republicans were either 1) wealthy (and protecting their interests) or 2) dupes.  It really is that simple.
        •  Neighbor's observation (none)
          "The media is so unfair to Bush.  Why, when he's on TV, he looks like he doesn't know anything!"

          You know, that tricky media!  There they go again, making it look as though he doesn't care...  

          dogmatism is dangerous

          by Doctor R on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:11:40 PM PDT

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  •  Yesterday (none)
     The Salt Lake Tribune put the firefighter's story on the front page. I know first hand how our local search and rescue people are being treated. My neice does S&R, but is not FEMA certified. Some of her fellows are and went down to help. As they told her, the only food and water they were getting was from the local people. They're pissed.
  •  Not just oblivious, OBSTRUCTIONIST! (4.00)
    This man's ability to put himself before others is simply unprecedented. Not only is he using first repsonders as props and preventing helicopters from delivering aid and rescuing stranded citizens, he is preventing OTHERS from helping. How much more damage can one one do to universal good will!
    "Nations Await Answer to Katrina Aid Offers
    For four days, a C-130 transport plane ready to lift emergency supplies to Katrina victims has stood idle at the Satenas air force base in southern Sweden.continued at:

    This should be on the 5 o'clock news tonight! Please rate and keep on Yahoo's top stories list!

  •  Community relations officers? (none)
    In the Salt Lake Tribune article the fire fighters are being trained in Community Relations but warned not to speak to reporters?  Its been said often before but you can't make this shit up, the incompetence just gets deeper.
    •  Yes (none)
       They wanted them to hand out fliers. An Oregon fire fighter was quoted as saying, "There are all of these guys with all of this training and we're sending them out to hand out a phone number. They (victims), are screaming for help and this day (of FEMA training), was a waste."
      •  Tits on a boar-hog (none)
        WTF good is a phone number if the lines are down and the cell towers are blown away? I was in Hattiesburg MS yesterday delivering supplies. The phones up there, 50 miles north of the coast, are just now coming back in some areas and cell service is spotty.
  •  Media Matters (none)
    I love those guys. They bash any lie, liberal or conservative, even though their mission is "dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."

    We need more whistle-blowers like them, and Kos, for that matter; one of the most vile acts of this administration has been the way they can blatantly lie to the media.

    Perhaps the sadder part of it all is how the media, and most of us, eat it up.

    Tolerating others is the price we pay for being tolerated ourselves. Dan Savage

    by peterpeter on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:09:01 AM PDT

  •  They're recruiting FEMA volunteers in DOC (none)
    The Department of Commerce has sent the following email to all its employees.  I expect the employees of other executive agencies are receiving similar messages.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    FOR:  All DOC Employees

    The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) anticipates needing up to 2,000 volunteers to assist in the government's response to the hurricane tragedy. Volunteers will be asked to deploy for 30-day minimum field assignments to work with Federal Emergency Management Agency(FEMA)on this effort.

    Department of Commerce employees who are interested in volunteering should carefully read the information from FEMA on Frequently Asked Questions for Agencies at:

    and the Emergency Management Institute at:

    Make sure that you meet the requirements outlined and are up to the likely working conditions that you will face in New Orleans and the other affected areas. Interested employees should discuss and have the full support of their supervisors prior to volunteering.

    Employees who are interested in volunteering and meet the requirements (see ), including supervisory approval, should email their stated interest to  Mr. Fred Fanning, from the Office of Human Resources Management is the Department's coordinator and point of contact.  If you cannot e-mail your interest, you can call (202) 482-6117 or (202) 482-1445.  It is important that employees not contact FEMA directly, but use as your primary means of expressing your interest in volunteering.  To volunteer, you will need to provide the following information in your e-mail:

    Your name
    Work phone number
    Cell phone number (if available)
    Work e-mail address
    Supervisor's name and phone number
    Dates of availability

    The Department of Commerce will pay salaries of employee volunteers.  FEMA will pay travel, overtime, incidental expenses, etc.  FEMA will also reimburse the Department of Commerce for any overtime expenses.  Once employees are approved for volunteer service, they will receive more detailed information for in-processing.

    FEMA will contact you directly if you are selected for a temporary field assignment.  It is important that you let your supervisor know if you are contacted by FEMA for deployment.  Volunteers are needed immediately and for future deployments so you may or may not hear back immediately from FEMA.

    If contacted by FEMA, you will be scheduled for 1-day training in Emmitsburg, MD.  Volunteers from outside the DC area will immediately deploy from Emmitsburg to a FEMA staging area in Orlando, Florida.  Volunteers from the DC area will return home following training.  FEMA will contact you with further deployment nstructions within a matter of days. The FEMA will determine specific field assignments for further deployment from Orlando.

    The victims of Hurricane Katrina remain in our thoughts and prayers, and we are thankful for the many federal employees who are so anxious to provide assistance.

    For further information, please visit the Hurricane Katrina Volunteers Home Page at:

    This message has been authorized by OHRM.

    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased, And the epitaph drear: "A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East." --K

    by RT on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:10:03 AM PDT

  •  Kos and Kossacks (none)
    Why should Wapo give a shit if they lie for the President when there is no consequences? Something like this that is labeled "unconscionable" should mean that the Washington Post would lose all credibility correct? Especially since they are repeat offenders of the technique. But tomorrow you, Kos, leader of Daily Kos will be right back at your desk reading the Washington Post and quoting from it when it suits your purpose. You can't have it both ways. We continually demonize the Washington Times on this website because it is owned by the Moonies, why do we allow the Washington Post to get away with essentially being the mouthpiece of the Bush administration? You should not allow them the credibility.

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair

    by Central Scrutinizer on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:13:09 AM PDT

  •  I couldn't agree more (none)
    Newspapers that use anonymous sources should be forced by law to surrender their names when caught in a lie for political gain. They should do it voluntarily but when is that going to happen?
    When Bill Bennet becomes virtuous. When we understand why Clinton hired his brother as his lawyer during Monica and why monica's best friend was the only Republican in the Whitehouse. We've been fucked for much longer than most suspect.
  •  believe (none)
    ...I can't believe the DC media has so fallen, is so utterly corrupt and compromised, that this is even a point of debate.

    It's in their nature. Besides, they don't teach journalism at journalism schools anymore.

  •  White House & FEMA didn't issue the Emergency (none)
    Declaration properly on August 26/27.  The formal info posted on both the White House and FEMA websites show they issued an Emergency Declaration for all Parishes in Louisiana EXCEPT for those most likely to be affected:

    Louisiana Hurricane Katrina
    Emergency Declaration, August 27, 2005.
    Please note the MAP thumbnail!

    This page has all the Emergency and Disaster declarations that FEMA has issued this year:
    If you look at the maps for Mississippi and Alabama, you'll see that the counties most likely to be affected are correct.

    If you methodically click on all of them, you'll see they ALWAYS designate specific affected areas of states.  The affected area of Louisiana was NOT put under the Emergency Declaration until Monday, August 29th:

    Did this screw up have anything to do with actual on-the-ground preparation??  I have no idea, but given the emphasis put on properly following the rules by this administration, I wouldn't be surprised.  

    •  thumb wrong? (none)
      click on the thumb and the PDF that comes up shows the proper declaration.. but the date at the top of the PDF says 9/4/05... wonder if there's a cache somewhere of how that PDF looked on 8/27.
      •  Thumbnail is NOT wrong (none)
        If you read the original Emergency Declaration it lists only the parishes west of I-55 and north of Highway 190.  The parishes that SHOULD have been listed in the original declaration were NOT ADDED UNTIL MONDAY, AUGUST 29th by the addendum to the Federal Register.

        THE ORIGINAL EMERGENCY DECLARATION INCLUDES THE EXACT OPPOSITE PARISHES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTED.  That's why that thumbnail picture is so important (at least it is to me).

        The new target PDF shows the counties as they now stand under the Disaster Declarations, not the earlier, original Emergency Declaration.

        Not knowing how these Emergency declarations affect actual preparations on the ground is making me crazy.  Do they (FEMA and state & local emergency personnel) have to adhere to the geographic scope of these declarations, or do they step outside of them when the need appears so great as it did on the Saturday and Sunday before the storm.  If these idiots delayed putting relief supplies and people in place because those counties weren't listed in the formal Emergency Declaration, then FEMA bears a tremendous burden for the disaster.  If the formal declaration doesn't carry that kind of weight in coordinating preparations, then I'm all upset over nothing.

        •  You're right; see "designated counties" (none)
          On the 27 August Louisiana Disaster Declaration, the link to "designated counties" corresponds to the tinted counties [parishes] on the map:

          "This assistance is for the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier,Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn."

          These, of course, are the parishes that were not expected to be affected, and were in fact not affected. The 29 August Mississippi and Alabama declarations, both on the maps and in the lists of designated counties, are correct.

          It looks like one of those screwups like failure to convert inches to metric on that Mars probe that crashed, but I encourage you to keep the question open: could this screwup in fact have contributed to FEMA's criminal uselessness?

          •  clarification (none)
            I just spoke to the person who heads our state's Office of Emergency Preparedness about this.  He said there "shouldn't have been" any problems with the counties being left out, that preparations would proceed anyway.  He did acknowledge that the Declarations are almost always county/parish specific.  BUT he also said that these formal Declarations release money and other resources on both state and federal levels that wouldn't normally be available to a governor.  I asked him if such a mistake was made on a Declaration for our state would that impede his office's effectiveness in any way.  He hesitated but finally said no, it wouldn't as they would expect the affected counties to added later.

            I think I should be satisfied with his answer, but my internal alarm is still ringing madly.  Would anyone else be willing to call their state's Emergency Management department and ask about it??

    •  doh! (none)
      google has the 8/27 cache, but the colors are missing due to the conversion to HTML.

  •  Don't piss off the firefighters (none)
    Just ask Arnold how well that goes.
    and get their reactions to how they were used on video tape ASAP!!!

    "We can win elections only by standing up for what we believe." --Howard Dean

    by Jim in Chicago on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:16:11 AM PDT

  •  Hey, checking facts is hard work! (none)

    "We can win elections only by standing up for what we believe." --Howard Dean

    by Jim in Chicago on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:17:44 AM PDT

  •  uh...I think they even did the doctors... (none)


  •  Nice smackdown by Brock... (none)
    Any odds on whether or not the WaPo prints it?
  •  Journalism 101 (none)
    It's called "fact checking." If the reporter doesn't catch it, the editor does. There's absolutely no excuse. They're either incompetent or corrupt, or more likely both.
    •  can't find the link at the moment (none)
      but I can recall an interview Judith Miller gave to Salon or mebbe Slate.

      The gist of one quote was that she didn't see her job as a reporter to check or verify what the government told her, but just to report what the government was saying.

      Mission accomplished there, huh? And it isn't just Judy but seems to be a pretty pervasive attitude in the industry.

      On a brighter note, though, Judith Miller is still incarcerated.

  •  Slow down! (none)
    At the rate kos is posting today, this is going to scroll away into oblivion.  I wish you'd put more emphasis on the story you linked about the pissed off volunteer firemen.  That story is huge, IMO.  The sheer idiocy of having highly trained volunteers sitting sexual-harrassment classes in Atlanta while Nagin was "screaming for volunteers" to relieve their exhausted firemen?  

    There is no spin to make.  That's a story that needs to be spread far and wide, IMO.  

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

    by Barbara Morrill on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:20:35 AM PDT

  •  MSM is part of the Rove propaganda machine (none)
    There is no refuting the fact that the MSM is carrying water for Rovian propaganda. This total control of information in the facilitation of a political agenda leads to totalitarian states. The USA is getting close to the USSR. Distinguishing the Pravda during Soviet times and the current WaPo or Judy Miller's NYT becomes increasingly difficult.

    Until alternative media like the blogosphere becomes more widespread real news will not filter out easily.

  •  Whenever Threatened, (none)
    authoritarian regimes respond with greater harshness and more vicious attacking.

    I think we'd be better served by saying they're in full attack mode--since they're almost always aggressive rather than defensive.

    Their resources are most of what makes up America's economy and public space, and they're not going to let any of those resources slip into service of the people in a message crisis like this.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:24:59 AM PDT

  •  This all fits into (none)
    the GW Bush action figure doll marketing.  You can get all the outfits and change George from day to day.  Fighter pilot action outfit, firefighter action outfit, urban planner action outfit, goat herder action outfit.. and so forth.
  •  Top photo: Five heroes and a feckin eedjit (none)
    Gawd, Bush looks like such a vain, play-acting imbecile. What I can't get over is the complete refusal of Unca Karl's Propaganda Factory to dial back the cross-dressing extravaganzas even when it's happening on a mass grave.

    I mean, NOLA is a fucking mass grave; people are still dying in a deadly soup of steeping waste, with impending disease and chemical poisoning fast on their way.

    And Schickelgoober's just gotta get in there and do his stupid little prance beside the manly men, hoping to gloss his sorry ass with unearned heroism and stoke a few dumbasses. What a pathetic display for a leader.

  •  It gets worse (4.00)
    Raw Story has a story about to break:


    Oh when the frogs. . Come marching in. . Oh when the FROGS COME MARCH-ING IN!

    by pontificator on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:27:26 AM PDT

  •  Watch Oprah (4.00)
    and read the article in Slate today about "Why I hate Cable News TV.."  If you thought you couldn't cry any more, take a look at Oprah Winfield's reporting, not the puff blondes on their sets in DC, Atlanta, and New York.  Not the comfortable editorial writers in their offices. Not the spinning chatterati supporting the Bush Crime Family.

    Wake Up Call for the Nation's Press Corps:

    1. Do your job. It's called reporting. It's not gossip mongering, although that's appealing for the ratings. Report.

    2. Do your job. It's called research. When given a "hot quote" from an INSIDER! Verify! Don't simply ask for a counter quote from the other side, liberal or conservative, verify.

    3. Do your job. It's called giving out information. It's not running the same footage of a wrecked helicopter time and time and time again. If you need "wall paper" go to your local interior decorator's establishment.

    4. Do your job. It's called educating the public. How much education do I, as an average citizen, need about shark attacks, white damsels in distress, and Michael Jackson's latest scandal?  Where was the information about the funding for levee repair and maintenance in the last session of Congress? Or in any session of Congress for that matter?  Where is the information I need about possible hurricanes hitting Miami?  Or the Tampa region? Or about earthquake preparedness in Memphis and St. Louis?(not to mention the west coast).  

    5. Do your job. It's called separating the wheat from the chaff. The interesting from the informative.  How many times have reporters taken non-ideological views on issues like tax rebates? How much information does the average citizen--not just political wonks--get about the impact of tax rebates and tax cuts on local and state governments? (Those who are first responders in a crisis.) When the so-called taxpayer organizations call for cuts and rebates, who is challenging their numbers and their intent?  

    6. Do your job. It's called accountability. When a mayor cuts a local budget for firefighters and polic--who's asking questions? When a governor says "We didn't know the storm was so big?" Who's asking questions? When a FEMA official says "We weren't informed about the levee break until Tuesday." Who's checking the veracity?

    If the press thinks it's job is "To Inform the American Citizen," then why does it give us so little information?  There is nothing entertaining about a discussion of coastal barrier depletion--but WE need the information. There is nothing sexy about discussions of evacuation routes during a biological attack--but WE need the information.

    Thus much for our vaunted FREE press, that freely does what it wants to do often in sharp contrast to what it needs to do. Barnum really wasn't right--WE aren't all suckers.

  •  is this a surprise? (none)
    Does anyone really still cling to the idea that major news outlets produce unbiased, objective reports anymore?  When was that ever the case?

    I'm sure there are romantic notions that Woodstein-type reporting was the zenith of the golden age of the media, but even those two have fallen prey to greed:

    check this out

    Woodward argued that The Post shouldn't reveal the secret until he could produce a book.
  •  I wish (none)
    they would stop calling it "The Blame Game".  Let's call it "The Accountability Discussion"
  •  For a few days last week (4.00)
    I thought the MSM would break free and begin to tell the real story behind this Administration. But no, once the teeming masses were deported to Astrodome and other places more inaccessible to media eyes, the will to talk about the true nature of this Administration has withered away. Sheppard Smith is back in NY doing his show, Geraldo is singing happy days are here again. The MSM is dancing the Rove line. They have returned to their happy place.

    If anything would have changed this, Katrina would, but....

    I liken the democratic principle of an educated and informed citizenry to a severely wounded eagle, too weak from the years media complacency and complicity to break free a net of carefully spun lies. It struggles, makes some noise, but in the end, it just cannot break free itself. When this incredibly important concept dies, do will democracy. Maybe it already has.

    I now realize that at least 40% of our citizens don't care that up to or at least 10,000 people died this weekend on the Gulf coast. I now realize that 40% of our citizens do not believe in a purposeful government. I now realize that while 40% of our citizens don't believe in biological darwinism, 40% believe in social darwinism.

    Do you know when there was a stir of outrage over the incompetence of this administration? It was when the gas prices jumped .50$ a day before the Labor Day weekend. Prices are now dropping and so is the outrage.  I drive an old pick up truck. I am too broke to purchase a fuel efficient car, so high gas prices are killing me. But to get the media and public's attention, we need to see gas over $4.00 a barrel. Until then, many Americans will be content to buy the line that the victims of Katrina got what they deserved.

    We can shout all we want about the duplicity of the press. But until Soccor Mom and NASCAR Dad reach the point that they can no longer afford  a full tank af gas in their SUV, I believe our protests will fall on deaf ears.

    •  I cannot type (none)
      Let me try the third paragraph again:

      I liken the democratic principle of an educated and informed citizenry to a severely wounded eagle, too weak from the years media complacency and complicity to break free of a net of carefully spun lies. It struggles, makes some noise, but in the end, it just cannot break free. When this incredibly important concept dies, so will democracy. Maybe it already has.

    •  That's the sad truth.. (none)
      40% of the people in this country will choose to go down with the ship instead of admiting they were wrong about Bush. As long as he's pro-life and anti-gay they will be happy.

      "Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere"

      by Morbo on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:03:42 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  The contrast (none)
      between the media last week and the sense I get of it now is incredible.  I don't live in the US and was out of town to boot, so I just saw the Shephard and Geraldo video today.  And today I learn how many people still support him despite Katrina, ho ho ho, back to all jolly on CNNI.  I rarely bother watching them anymore, and they're way better than just CNN.  

      "Fear is an -ism...did you notice the transition from Communism into Islamic terrorism?" Lee Raback, Warsaw Pack "Doomsday Device"

      by lizah on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:40:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  FEMA deserters : role models for Iraqi war troops (none)
    On Monday, some firefighters stuck in the staging area at the Sheraton peeled off their FEMA-issued shirts and stuffed them in backpacks, saying they refuse to represent the federal agency.

    Sounds like what the troops should do in Iraq...

    •  But isn't it comforting to know (4.00)
      that whatever else in FEMA may be totally FUBAR, they have managed to get the most important thing right: They've issued team T-shirts.

      Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. -- Donald Rumsfeld

      by Mnemosyne on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:52:30 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  A Picture is worth a thousand words (none)
    From TPM, this would be the "Money Shot"

    Case closed. Any questions?


    I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

    by Volvo Liberal on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:39:41 AM PDT

    •  Nice pic, but your link busted the margins. (none)
      which makes the whole diary very hard to read. I know you didn't mean to, but y'see the site considers a link "unbreakable text" so when your link is a zillion characters long the margins expand to accomodate it.

      You could post the same link like this.

      Instructions here, from the Dkos FAQ portion of dKosopedia.


      All my marginal comments protected by MarginGuardTM

      The most un-American thing you can say is, "You can't say that." -G. Keillor

      by Eddie Haskell on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:36:44 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Good call on the bump n/t (none)

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

    by Barbara Morrill on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:39:45 AM PDT

  •  Oh God (none)
    From Raw Story


    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:45:53 AM PDT

  •  but...but...but... (none)
    Pictures don't lie!

    Bush has rolled up his sleeves!  Firefighters follow him around with loyal adoration!  There are no dead bodies in sight!  He's obviously getting things done like the no-nonsense hands-on commander-in-chief that he is.  What more do you people want?!?!

    Seriously, though, what will it take to make it clear to everyone (even the dittoheads) that this administration cares more about propaganda than actually helping anyone?  I'd be more outraged if this wasn't par for the course for them.  

  •  MSNBC blew it this morning too... (none)
    When they let that windbag Don Williams from The Evergreen whatever go on and on about how Shrub tried to get Blanco to declare a state of emergency and how this was ALL local gov't fault.

    He also came on really strong against any kind of Congressional investigation too. Sounded so much like Ken Mehlman I almost thought that's who it was. I was surprised that Ron Reagan didn't cut him off but he just let him ramble on.  On and on with the lies and the spin of how Shrub tried to save them all but was ignored.

    I almost puked.

    The 7 Commandments are abridged for the last time, simply reading, "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."

    by califdweller on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:47:11 AM PDT

  •  local media (none)
    these guys are STILL on the air, covering all aspects of the story 24/7.  pretty impressive

  •  Rove Placed Bush with These Firefighters (none)
    because his photo op with the NYC firefighter on top of the vehicle worked so well for Bush after 9/11.

    These idiots still think that what is happening regarding NOLA is a public relations SNAFU because they were all distracted by their vacations.

    It's hard to think clearly when you're on the beach in the Hamptons or fly-fishing in Montana or clearing fake brush on a fake ranch in Crawford.

    But now they are back at work now.  They've got the playbook out.  They are looking at tried and true methods from crises past.

    Bush in his borrowed firehat with his megaphone was his finest hour.  Mission Accomplished missed the boat, due to unfortunate circumstances.  So it's out with the firefighters (not too grubby, now, we want them to look sexy and strong, not grimy!) and on with the show.

    I can just see a bunch of guys in ties around the proof sheets, picking out the beauty shot.

    They don't get it yet - Reality.

  •  Bush wont need to stage a photo op (none)
    with a stethoscope hanging around his neck. Frist took care of that Republican "compassion" by diagnosing the abandoned at the makeshift hospital at the airport.
    Now if they could just get a photo op with DeLay hugging some New Orleans Indian chiefs,,,,
  •  With all due respect (none)
    There was a recent diary on Daily Kos about the quotes from the senior administration speaker.  In it the diarist said that the Post had retracted, but Newsweek hadn't, I believe.

    That said, of course this is worth drawing attention to again.  The confusion is just beginning.  Bush might even prefer to have attention on some lying official than on the storm.

    dogmatism is dangerous

    by Doctor R on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 10:56:01 AM PDT

  •  So what is new? (none)
    Bush has been using human wallpaper at his speeches since Day-One.

    It is his sickening trademark.

    I can't help but look at that picture and remember the firefighters in NY after 9/11 and how Bush couldn't wait to have his picture taken with them all around.  Do you think he's collecting a bunch of similar photos to hang on his "presidential" library walls?  If I were a firefighter, I would curse his shallow use of me and my fellow firefighters for his lying benefit.
  •  Different spin on a photo-op. (4.00)

    This reflects the guitar pic
    that 'boing boing posted a little while ago. Hope it goes through.

    •  One last touch. (none)
      How about that "Mission Accomplished" banner overhead.
    •  Ok, a little history and English lesson (none)
      First of all, I like this montage.  Very powerful and it is clear in it's meaning.  However, in light of all the "Let them eat cake" references I've been seeing around here lately I thought I'd find out just what it means....  For your edification:

      First of all, The Straight Dope on the phrase.

      Next, the Urban Legends entry

      Some fun links off of that one, including a Brioche recipe (for your revolutionary parties) (yeah, coming soon to a basement near you)

      And to be used as sort of a checklist for our own upcoming revolution, the Wikipedia entry on the French Revolution

      Another fun fact:

      In the storming of the Bastile [sic], the Governor, the door-keeper, with two or three others, were massacred. Mr. Foullon, Intendant, had been kept three days, with no food but HAY before him, and afterwards was hanged by the populace at one of the cords which suspend the reverberes (lights) in the streets. The particularity of the HAY put before Mr. Foullon, comes from an answer he made a few days since: Being told the people had no bread, he replied "Let them eat hay."

      And of course for those of you who don't feel like clicking links, the basic common definition:

      (From The Times [London], Thursday, 30 April 1959; Pg. 11; Issue 54448; Col. E.)



      Sir, -- The story is many centuries older than Marie Antoinette or Rousseau. It is to be found in the Latin letters of Peckham, Archbishop of Canterbury at the end of the thirteenth century. It is not there attributed to any particular person, but it is referred to as a proverbial example of the ignorance of the rich concerning the lives of the poor.

      Yours truly,
      JOHN WARD.
      Flat One, 43, England's Lane, N.W.3

  •  GW (none)
    could walk up to one of these poor people and shoot them. He would still have supporters
  •  If Markos can't believe.... (4.00)

    ....the degree of debasement of the DC media after launching a site which has repeatedly documented the debased condition of the DC media for a long, long time, then how do we convince the sheeple who drank the kool-aid a long time ago?

    There is a "liberal" tendency to credit one's opponents with some measure of good will.

    It is time to shed that impulse to generosity, and to proceed as if there is no good will or intelligence in the senior staff at either the Washington Post or the Republican Party.

    Whatever they say, whenever they say it, the new response must be: "Having repeatedly lied to the American people in the past, with thousands of deaths resulting, what assurances can you provide that you're not lying right now?"

    It's all about the lying and the dying.

    Lies about NYC air quality after 9/11

    Lies about WMD in Iraq

    Lies about gutting Clean Air Act mercury rules

    Lies about folding FEMA into DHS

    Lies about torture around the world

    Lies about Bush family ties with the House of Saud

    Lies about the election of 2000

    Lies about the election of 2004

    Lies about who outed Valerie Plame

    Lie after lie after lie after lie, brazen lies told repeatedly by Bush and his hired guns, and uncritically repeated by so-called journalists, even after they were shown to be lies.

    And yet the willingness to pretend that we're dealing with a mere difference of political opinion continues. The willingness to pretend that we're dealing with professional journalists who are at least attempting as honest a day's work as they can continues.

    It's bullshit.

    And it's time for shunning and ostracism.

    It's time for the invitations to stop.

    It's time for civility to end.

    It's time to put Judith Miller in the general population.

  •  Like it or not (4.00)
    Bush is moving his agenda forward with these tactics. He may be unpopular but he is powerful. He's had to give a lot of favors to get the power he has now. The anonymous source is probably someone who owes him (or Karl) something...


  •  Guess whose back in the news? (none)
    I just listened to my local ABC affiliate noon newscast.  Did you know that near the top of the hour we heard the most important news?  Monica Lewinsky has been accepted to the London School of Economics and will be studying for a masters degree in Social Psychology.  Just in case anyone was wondering what has happened to her or in case anyone would forget what a horrible man we had for president!  Is this a coincidence?
  •  Senator Landrieu now on WWLTV (none)
    right now is saying "don't send money to FEMA. Send it to local agencies who can actually get something done"

    Paraphrased, but that's the gist.

    "We'll try to fix FEMA later," she continues..

    This needs to be transcripted, anyone who recorded it.

  •  Blinded by the right (4.00)
    A generation of veterans--and Vietnamese--that continue to be ravaged by chemical weapons used in Vietnam--have you seen one single image?  Sanitized.

    Hundreds of thousands of veterans sleeping on the street every night?  Sanitized.

    Images of the dead and maimed being flown into D. C. in the middle of the night?  Sanitized.

    The takeover of the universities by corporations?  Sanitized.

    The destruction of the environment, including the wetlands protecting NOLA?  Sanitized.

    Images of the poor, their misery?  Sanitized.

    Hundreds of thousands of deathly infirm being stripped from Medicaid rolls?  Sanitized.

    The child mortality rate in the US worse than Cuba's?  The rate in D. C. twice as high as in Beijing?  Sanitized.

    Nearly fifty million people with no healthcare whatsoever?  Sanitized.

    Hundreds of thousands of today's vets and people in Afghanistan and Iraq poisoned with "depleted uranium"?  Sanitized.

    Hundreds of thousands incarcerated for minor drug use?  Sanitized.

    The transformation of prisons into a private Golden Goose?  Sanitized.

    Depictions of working men and women with dignity?  Sanitized.

    High level official involvement with the drug trade?  Sanitized.

    The PNAC project of empire?  Sanitized.

    The militarization of space, including nuclear weapons?

    A real examination of what happened--again, no response--during two hours on 9/11?  Sanitized.

    The takeover of the government by corporate transnationals?  Sanitized.

    Over 500,000 Iraqi children who shat themselves to death for want of a drink of clean water?  Sanitized.

    And you think we will get the truth on NOLA?

    Need I go on with this?  We have been blinded.  Both eyes.  Our hearts.  Our spirits.

  •  This is about the press, not Bush. (4.00)
    David Brock and you are making a brilliant, very important point.  It gets to the heart of many recent media scandals, including Valerie Plame's illegal CIA outing, Judith Miller's just imprisonment, Time and NYTimes illegal collusion in Plamegate, and going back CBS's devastating fall last year as it reported accurately on Bush's national guard service but used a single weak source.  Of all these cases, only CBS behaved ethically - they outed Burkette.

    The point is, when you learn your source is lying, that's the real story.  The more powerful, famous, or credible the former source is, the bigger the new story.

    If that shift doesn't happen - if that new story isn't printed - then the real story is that the newspaper is lying, and covering up for lies by the powerful.  They're reneging on their obligation to serve the public good, and (as Judy Miller knows) should fess up or expect to go to jail for it.  That should be the new standard.

  •  He's a logo..... (none)
    Rollin up his sleeve........
    Walkin w the fire guys on dry land...........
    Walkin right next to them like he's part of their team and they are part of his..........

    This is the truth........this man is the logo for the corporate government.  He is brought out as tough guy  "one of us" when things get bad or a smearin needs to be done.  A corporate logo who loves his job because he gets a script and a movie set w top notch supporting cast.  He is in the job of his dreams.  Unfortunately, this corporate logo has gutted the concept of a president as a leader, with a vice president to help get the tough thinking and decision making done.  

    Cut him out of this photo and stick him in so many others.  That's all the Bush CO does.  An unfortunately effective logo that sticks in people's minds and sadly,  for so many,  Bush makes them think of a saved and simpler America. (whatever that may be)

    And this logo's accompanying motto?  

    "Just screw it"

  •  Tasteless but tragically true... (none)
    "Bush posed while bodies decomposed."

    George Bush, you don't speak for me.

    by Compassionate Conservationist on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 11:33:27 AM PDT

  •  Just walk away. (none)
    The firemen in those photo ops should have walked away from Bush when the Pretender started rolling up his sleeves.  In fact, it's time that all good Americans begin to refuse to participate in Bush's cynical little charades.

    Make the Republican movie hucksters dress their own party operatives in fireman clothing if that's what they want.  No more free props, just ignore the little fucker.

    Of course, it's a lot harder to ignore the Pimp in Chief when you're in the military, but firemen are not military.  Bush can get them fired, and I'm sure they have been told that, but we'd all love to hear how he fires firemen who don't play along with his publicity stunts.

    Imagine the pleasure of simply turning around and walking away from that useless human being.  Refuse to follow him or even acknowledge his presence; just walk away.

    Oh, well, maybe it was a carefully selected group of Republican firemen.  Even then they must have wondered what the fuck was going on.  In I've heard that some of Bush's stage props are starting to speak out, after the fact.  The corporate press will of course ignore all such stories.

  •  no one could have imagined (none)
    that we'd be living in a country where we make the news what we want it to be.  or that the government makes the news what they want it to be.  none dare call it propaganda!  

    Just because you're self-righteous doesn't mean you're not a hypocrite.

    by AMcG826 on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:02:44 PM PDT

  •  Playing the Blame Game (none)
    You'd think that since Repugs are so frequently playing the Blame Game, they'd be better at it. They want to blame everything on Blanco and Nagin? Explain these stories:

    Right city, wrong state
    FEMA accused of flying evacuees to wrong Charleston

    Tuesday, September 6, 2005; Posted: 11:29 p.m. EDT (03:29 GMT)

    (CNN) -- Add geography to the growing list of FEMA fumbles.

    A South Carolina health official said his colleagues scrambled Tuesday when FEMA gave only a half-hour notice to prepare for the arrival of a plane carrying as many as 180 evacuees to Charleston.

    But the plane, instead, landed in Charleston, West Virginia, 400 miles away.

    It was not known whether arrangements have been made to care for the evacuees or transport them to the correct destination.

    A call seeking comment from FEMA was not immediately returned.

    "We called in all the available resources," said Dr. John Simkovich, director of public health for the South Carolina Department of Health
    and Environmental Control....

    "Unfortunately, the plane did not come in," Simkovich said. "There was a mistake in the system, coming out through FEMA, that we did not receive the aircraft this afternoon. It went to Charleston, West Virginia."

    Typical Repugs -- they don't know the difference between South Carolina and West Virginia. Yet somehow, I'm sure it's Blanco's fault.

    FEMA Chief Waited Until After Storm Hit to Ask for Help


    WASHINGTON (Sept. 7) - The government's disaster chief waited until hours after Hurricane Katrina had already struck the Gulf Coast before asking his boss to dispatch 1,000 Homeland Security workers to support rescuers in the region - and gave them two days to arrive, according to
    internal documents.

    Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, sought the approval from Homeland Security Secretary Mike Chertoff
    roughly five hours after Katrina made landfall on Aug. 29. Brown said that among duties of these employees was to "convey a positive image"
    about the government's response for victims.

    Funny...I thought the duties of these employees required that they actually manage an emergency and save victims' lives.

    And perhaps more than anything else, if everything is the fault of Blanco and Nagin, how do the Repugs explain this?

    The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing.

    So Bush declares a state of emergency, but FEMA didn't respond for about a week? And this is somehow the fault of someone other than the FEMA director or the DHS secretary? I'm confused...can someone please enlighten me?

    Thwarting the forces of conservatism since 1978.

    by wiscmass on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:04:41 PM PDT

  •  UPS to Sue Head of FEMA (none)
    Or maybe it was just a dream.

    I propose the following for t-shirts to be given out to all New Orlans hurricane victims:

                           What can Brown do for you?
                                      Jack shit.

    Pretzels for the Preznit! Send a bag of your favorite pretzels to the President and tell him to eat a giant handful all at once!

    by Bob Johnson on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:11:17 PM PDT

    •  T-shirt (none)
      I KNOW
      Jack Shit!

      The most un-American thing you can say is, "You can't say that." -G. Keillor

      by Eddie Haskell on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:47:23 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I know Jack Shit... (none)
        ... and you, Mr. Brown, don't know Jack Shit.

        Pretzels for the Preznit! Send a bag of your favorite pretzels to the President and tell him to eat a giant handful all at once!

        by Bob Johnson on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:53:11 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Either way works (none)
          I always took the phrase "You don't know Jack Shit" to mean "You don't know 'nothin'',"  as in the phrase, "I know Jack Shit about emergency response."  If that is true, the term Jack Shit means "nothing."  Then again, the implied double negative could suggest that Jack Shit actually means "something." If we accept that assumption then your "I DON'T Know Jack Shit" would be more correct.

          I do remember having a chuckle over a bumper sticker I saw on an old 60's vintage VW microbus which read, "I KNOW Jack Shit!"  However, as this was positioned just above the one that read "So Where Are The Flashbacks They Promised Us?" perhaps the sticker meant the owner knew something after all. Of course, I know (or don't know) Jack Shit about the derivation of this term. Perhaps Rex could write the definitive diary about it?

          Meanwhile, I think I just thought of a better caption:  
          "I KNOW Jack Shit.
          He appointed me."

          In any case, Mr. Brown's problem seems to be about what he doesn't know and when he didn't know it.

          The most un-American thing you can say is, "You can't say that." -G. Keillor

          by Eddie Haskell on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 01:17:21 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Congrats to the blogosphere (none)
    For pressing the troubling timeline/p.r. stories so well!

    "I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend." Oh and I blog with gusto!

    by Chris Copy Editor on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:12:28 PM PDT

  •  They're on full tilt attack (none)
    This morning, I was in the middle of a serious conversation about some of my students when out of the blue, the resident Republican whackjob screamed I'm nt paying for it, they;'re not going to make me pay for it!! I was completely baffled --- why did she think she as ging to have to pay for something some of my students had done?

    I said what? What are you talking about?? And she started screaming they should have evacuated you can't tell me anyone's too poor for that and just because they're irresponsible and stupid I'm not paying for it I'm sick of paying for these people I'm ...

    And I finally blew. I blew bigtime.

    I turned to her headon and said oh yea, I understand completely, something like half the nursing homes went under water, and those welfare queen elderlies in their damned wheelchairs, how dare they die!! And what about that selfish bastard hospice doctor who dared stay behind with his patients. How dare he!!

    Ad she started backing ff saying oh I don't mean them, I mean ...

    But I was freaking boiling mad and I barked right back well, you must mean the families who stayed behind because their husbands or children or wves or parents were in the hospital or maybe the damned doctors, did you mean the damned lazy irresponsible welfare queen doctors, just who do you mean?

    And she said look, you can't tell me how to feel, don't you dare, I don't want to pay for them and I'm not going to and I shot back why sure, absolutely, they deserved what they got didn't they, every one of them!  And I left, boiling mad.

    And one by one, every single person there came t me and told me they're so glad I did that. I was mortified that I'd blown like that and the first person came to me and I said I am so sorry, I didn't mean to blow up like that. And she said no, I am so glad you did and I wish  would have done it to her first.

    They're in full blown attack everywhere. But they're not getting away with it this time.

  •  More pro-Bush Anti-NO, leering black rapist (none)
    Hate propaganda?  Murdoch's Sky News to the rescue:
    Storm Survivors Told To 'Expose Themselves'

    A group of female hurricane survivors were told to show their breasts if they wanted to be rescued, a British holidaymaker has revealed.Ged Scott watched as American rescuers turned their boat around and sped off when the the women refused.

    "At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made signs for them to lift their T-shirts," he told the Liverpool Evening Echo.

    Mr Scott also slated the rescue operation, saying police were more interested in taking snapshots of the devastation rather than rescuing the victims.


    "I couldn't describe how bad the authorities were. Just little things like taking photographs of us, as we are standing on the roof waving for help, for their own little snapshot albums"

    He added: "The American people saved us. I wish I could say the same for the American authorities."
    Mike Brocken, of Chester, said he feared his wife Christine and 18-year-old daughter Stephanie would be raped when they went into the Louisiana Superdome.

    The family were also racially abused by other refugees in the stadium.

    Mr Brocken, a BBC Radio Merseyside presenter and music lecturer, told the station: "We were going to go inside the Superdome.

    "I approached two members of the National Guard and they said to stay outside because they knew it was hell in there.

    "One female office basically said under no circumstances take the women in there, because she knew what it was like.

    "We were so frightened and we stayed alongside the National Guard for some kind of protection.

    "It was at that stage that they started to take us under their wing and eventually managed to get us into the basketball stadium."

    He added: "Everyone talks about the National Guard in rather derogatory ways historically, but I've got to say that, but for them, and one man in particular, I may well have lost my family."

    Get the message? NO police and Blacks bad; National Guard good.

  •  letter to WaPo (4.00)
    Here's a copy of the letter I sent Monday at 2PM to

    Dear Mr. Getler,

    Please refer to "Many Evacuated, but Thousands Still Waiting" by Manuel Roig-Franzia and Spencer Hsu

    This article incorrectly states that "Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said". Now, I do see a tiny correction at the top of the article & it is good that the correction is there, however, I'd like an answer to how this happened to start with.

    The fact that Louisiana's Govenor Blanco had declared an emergency on August 26th was an easily verified fact, a simple 3 second Google would have turned up the document, yet, this article states than a "senior Bush official said" just the opposite, in other words this senior Bush official outright lied. Do you not think it incumbent on your paper & your reporters to check the facts rather than just go with whatever these senior Bush official say?

    Now, because this senior Bush official outright lied, I think you owe it to the American people to identify exactly who this liar is. Why should s/he be allowed to hide behind "senior Bush official" in order to spew lies? This is deja vu all over again. Why do your reporters feel that they do not have to verify facts? Especially facts as important as this? Facts that were SO easy to verify. Surely your reporters have access to Google. If not, I strongly suggest that they be granted access & taught how to use it.

    Simply put, I am very angry about this. Currently there is a Grand Jury investigation into another lie by senior Bush officials. The press has made quite a show of trying to defend a fellow reporter for defending her right to not identify her source in this investigation. However, as many other media people have pointed out, once the source lies or it has been determined that what the source told you was a lie then the confidentiality pledge is no longer applicable. It is time to start outing these liars. If the news media continue to cover up for them we are going to loose a lot more of America than New Orleans. They lie because you let them get away with it. You print their lies as if they are fact, you don't check the facts & then, after the facts are exposed you don't identify the liars. You are enablers, not reporters.

    I am disgusted.


    (I actually signed my full name, address & phone number - but I don't really want that published in the blog)

    •  letter to WaPo (none)
      Good letter!!  Much better than mine, but that's okay...they'll get the drift.


      by martik on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 02:23:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Can I use your letter? (none)
      I think the basic contents of your letter, really brilliant, needs to be sent to the media far and wide.  Maybe some journalists will think that this is a story really worth reporting, especially since many wingnuts believe the lie. Thanks.
      •  of course (none)
        Feel free to use any parts of it you want :)

        The more we can get the point out there, the better chance we will have of shaming them into either checking facts or exposing lies.

        It really bothers me that the MSM allows Rove to lie like this & never having to fear being exposed. Reporters are not supposed to be stenographers. They are supposed to check things out.

  •  Priorities? (none)

    Intersting order in those priorities from the FEMA spokeswomen Ms. Hudak.

    1.  FEMA
    2.  Firefighting
    3.  Citizens

    Perhaps they (FEMA) have been stuck in reverse too long?

    In God we trust, All others we monitor -AFTAC

    by lcs on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 12:45:42 PM PDT

  •  kos+ WPost- (none)
    One of the reasons that your side is so popular (and newspapers are in decline) is because people see the man behind the curtain - have for a long time now.  We all know that corporate media machines are not in existence for philanthropic reasons.  It's the same with any overtly slanted news: the Daily Show, Fox, etc - people choose their brand of news now the same way they choose athletic shoes or toothpaste.

    Given this, I don't see how any mdeia outlet attempting to be objective can win in the long run.  

  •  Props or bodyguards? n/t (none)
  •  firefighters as props (none)
    If we could invent a country called Charades, President Bush and company would make fine leaders of this country. Now if we could just get them to leave ours and join this one, maybe we could find competent people to run things.
  •  WaPo's lack of vetting (none)
    I just wrote a letter to WaPo, complaining about their lack of vetting 'senior Bush officials'.  Maybe if they get enough e-mails complaining about their printing lies of BushCo they will think twice about taking administration officials at their word.

    How about it, ya'll.  E-mail WaPo!   :)


    by martik on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 02:20:48 PM PDT

  •  Hand Signals in Famous Korean War Photograph (none)
    There was a well-known photo from the Korean War.  A bunch of U.S. Soldiers had been taken hostage and were posed by their captors to show the U.S. that they were in good condition.  In reality, most of their bruises were covered by their uniforms.

    One of the servicemen made an obscene hand signal to show that the picture was false.  We need to start a trend among servicemen, firefighters, and cops that they make a certain hand signal in photos like these to prevent themselves from being used as props like this.

  •  Bassier sisters (none)
    Speaking of props, any more info on the two ladies pictured with Bush in Biloxi?
    President Bush takes walking tour with Kim Bassier, left, 21, of Biloxi, Miss., and her sister Bronwynne Bassier, 23

    With a  little googling, I found that the older one, Bronwynne Bassier, seems to live in Gautier in a fairly nice neighborhood. Nothing to say that Katrina didn't affect wealthier neighborhoods, but if Ms. Bassier lived in Gautier, why was she posing with the Bush in Biloxi. I could be wrong on this, and would like to know if anyone has more information on the two women.

  •  KATRINA NICKNAMES..... (none)
    1. NEW ORLEAN'S new name: LAKE GEORGE
    2. KATRINA relocation centers, with a nod to Herbert Hoover: BUSHVILLES
    3. DICK CHENEY, who supported slashing flood control funds and refused to leave his Wyoming vacation once the deluge began: DICK BAN DIKE
    4. MICHAEL BROWN, FEMA Chief, an incompetent Bush crony who was previously fired from his gig at a horse owners' association: BRONCO BROWN, MISMASTER OF DISASTER
    6. CONDI RICE, preoccupied with a thousand-dollar shoe buying spree in Manhattan during the crisis: IMELDA RICE or NO SHOES, NO SERVICE
    7. The act of reflexively defending Bush: BUSH FLUFFING
    8. Those who engage in same: BUSH FLUFFERS
    9. When Bush hallucinates about "mandates" or "political capital": FLUFFY BUSH MOMENTS
    10. Repealing the ESTATE TAX, which is levied only on the richest 1% of estates yet is the GOP's top priority in this time of crisis: THE PARIS HILTON TAX CUT
    11. One more...BUSH LIED, NEW ORLEANS DIED.
  •  The chickenhawk courage (none)
    It feels frusturating that the administration cowardly trying to blame the innocent for it's own incompetence.

    What the republican John McCain said in Fast Company by his "In search for courage" points it all out all too clear.

    "No one has had the courage to stand up and say, "It's my fault, I'm going to resign.
    When no one takes responsibility for failure, or when responsibility is so broadly shared that individual accountability is ignored, then failure in public office becomes acceptable. It's hard to see how that serves the country."

  •  Everything is a campaign commercial... (none)
    The time has not yet come when the general public understands the degree to which they are being manipulated, constantly.  Every image they see of politicians is carefully staged and choreographed, down to the color value of the lights which are used.  "Hey, let's warm up that backlight a little bit.  It'll make his hair look less grey..."

    This was bad enough when it involved scripted and planned TV commercials, where the pol walks around shaking hands with blue collar guys and touching the shoulders of elderly ladies in walkers.  But that same approach is now applied to all communication.   It used to be simple enough for politicians to have a "script," a "we'll stick to these talking points" approach...but that is passe.  Now, any interaction with the media has a script and a visual approach, as well as, often, some sort of musical or sound compliment.  For instance, it's good to hear a train whistle in the background if you're talkin' 'bout jobs!

    This is a story that the MSM should be telling, but likely won't, since they are complicit in much of this play-acting.

    Piltdown Man

  •  Rove's usual game plan: Lie (none)
    All of this is Rove's basic tenent:  Do everything you can to establish one strong perception as truth, and from then on, the opposition just sounds shrill, whining, and defensive.  And anyone in a defensive posture, has the uphill battle.

    To accomplish this, he has no interest in telling the truth, or in facts, or in reality at all.  It's all about one major advertising blitz to establish his talking point(s) as truth.  He did this with 9/11, with the swift boat ads against Kerry, with the Iraq War - it's all the same.  Facts?  He don't need no stinkin' facts.  He just treats the presidency as a beer commercial.  This is why the media can't take pictures of soldiers' coffins, and now why the media is being told not to take pictures of bodies in New Orleans.  And it's why they flew 50 firefighters in to walk around Bush:  it's all the perception, the picture, the ad.  The Lie.

    Bush isn't a president - he's a can of beer, and America bought him.

  •  FEMA Policy (none)
    Slightly tangential but another example of FEMA wasting resources and rescuers time and effort as well as continuing to endanger the people remaining in New Orleans. And their pets.

    From Baton Rouge's The Advocate: NEW ORLEANS -- David Woodsum poked his head out the attic window of his flooded house on Gladiolus Street on Tuesday and yelled at the men sitting in the flat bottom boat. "I'm not leaving," Woodsum said. "I won't leave my two cats." Pets appeared to be the No. 1 reason many of the estimated 10,000 residents still holed up in their flooded homes are refusing to leave. "I don't know why the government won't let us take these people's pets out," said Steve Miller of Dutchtown, a volunteer who navigated his flat bottom boat down the flooded streets trying to persuade residents to leave. "But FEMA has told us we cannot take the pets. They told that we could not take one cat or dog in our boats," Miller said. "It's a stupid rule. More people are going to die because of that."

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