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     The Kos community has been justifiably consumed by the Plame affair and everything it means.  Treason, espionage, cover-ups, the whole thing.  It's a true buffet of scandals and reaches to the highest levels of the Administration.

     There's an even bigger story in here though.  The reason they tried to trash Joe Wilson:  the attempt to silence the leaks coming from the CIA.  These leaks were undermining the Bush Administrations line of lies about why there were no weapons of mass destruction.  It is proof that they lied us into war.

     More after the fold....

 To review...George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice and Colin Powell engaged in a concerted effort to intentionally mislead the country into invading Iraq.  To do this they misrepresented the intelligence.  We know this from the Downing Street Memo and, now, from Plamegate.

     This entire scandal is laying this effort bare, but we're so consumed with the treason involved, the cover-up, and the chance to "get" Karl Rove, we're missing the biggest prize:  impeachment.

     Judith Miller's testimony shows the effort to discredit Joe Wilson began in June, 2003.  It's intent was to cover their tracks on the twisted intelligence.  This proves they intentionally fixed the intelligence around the policy.  It proves INTENT.  It proves they lied the country into war.

     This is an even bigger story, and we're missing it.  This is the basis for impeaching Bush.  A recent poll showed 50% of Americans would support impeachment if Bush intentionally misled us into war in Iraq.  Folks, this is the Holy Grail.  This is the smoking gun.  Let's pursue the treason charges, but as an aside to the bigger issue.

Originally posted to PAprogressive on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 06:56 PM PDT.

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  •  Follow the Letter (none)
    I've posted a similar comment to this one on another diary.

    The key crime is the forged Niger yellow caked letter.

    If Fitz knows who's responsible for its creation, who conspired in it, and who participated in the cover-up of the forgery, then his two year GJ investigation hasn't been wasted.

    It's curtains for the administration.

    They burn our children in their wars and grow rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

    by Limelite on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 07:12:13 PM PDT

    •  If that ever is proven (none)
      and it is traced to the White House, impeachment is a dead certainty.  I think the chance of doing so is a very long shot, though.  Even if it gets tracked back to the CIA, implicating WH involvement could be very difficult.

      These revelations do the same thing, though.  They prove the WH was actively involved in manipulating the intelligence then using it to lie about going to war.  Same result.  Much easier to prove, thanks to Fitzgerald.

      "My job is to protect the American people." George W. Bush. Did he?

      by PAprogressive on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 07:20:01 PM PDT

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      •  It May Be, But. . . (none)
        If the WHIGgies are centrally involved, as I think, this is the responsible cabal whose paper trail may make enough papier-mache rope to hang them.

        I can't imagine what their testimony would reveal, but feel it would lean toward the explosive!

        They burn our children in their wars and grow rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

        by Limelite on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 07:32:05 PM PDT

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  •  yes, absolutely (none)
    They were so desperate to discredit Joe Wilson because he threatened to expose the conspiracy at the highest levels of the Bush administration to take this country to war on false pretenses.   I don't know exactly who all are involved but the list almost certainly includes Bush, Cheney, Rove, Libby, Fleischer, Hadley, Rice, Rumsfeld, Powell and likely others.  And in order to keep that conspiracy from coming to light, they were willing to expose an NOC operative at the CIA.  Treason to cover even bigger treason.  The whole lot of them should be in prison already.

    Grover Norquist's agenda drowned in New Orleans.

    by ignorant bystander on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 07:25:40 PM PDT

    •  Don't forget that his wife was in a perfect (4.00)
      position to expose them too - she was an operative in the very section of the CIA dedicated to knowing all things about WMD in the known universe.  I have always thought that the move on the part of the White House to out Valerien Plame and the retailiation on the part of the CIA in calling for an investigation was something to consider as an important part of the story.  

      My interest is only heightened considering that the "Weapons of Mass Destruction in Affricaaah" line delivered by Bush at the State of the Union was apparently hotly debated prior to the speech between the White House and the CIA.

      Nixon was a fool because he took on Hoover's FBI.  We may be saying sometime in the not so distant future that Bush was a fool becuase he thought he could outwit the CIA.  I think this concept is quite funny in an ironic sort of way.  A bunch of spin meisters largely from Texas and trained in political campaigns actually thought they could beat an organization like the CIA full of trained assassins; masterful disinformation campaigners; and generally the most sneaky people on the planet.  Hey Karl Rove - these guys play for keeps.  You thought they'd roll over? Not.

      •  and this was their Achilles heel (none)
        Arrogance....

        "My job is to protect the American people." George W. Bush. Did he?

        by PAprogressive on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:06:28 PM PDT

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        •  I might call it the worst kind of (none)
          ambition. The tragic hero kind of ambition... well the Machiavellian kind of ambition. The kind of ambition that spurns one on to sacrafice one's own left arm.  The kind of ambition that was humorously mocked in Monty Python's Holy Grail where the black knight was down to no arms and no legs, but still convinced he could and would win.  I wish the media would just go ahead and print the real description of this crowd:

          BushCo: A bunch of petulant, two-bit assholes.

          If they had been trying to play the boys in Vegas, they would all have had their knee caps broken by now.

          •  or more likely (none)
            wearing concrete shoes while admiring the excellent concrete work at the inside base of Hoover Dam.

            "My job is to protect the American people." George W. Bush. Did he?

            by PAprogressive on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:22:50 PM PDT

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            •  I am just sort of happy they took on all (none)
              of the James Bonds of the world because the James Bonds are no where near as polite as the one we all know, but mostly just as lethal to their enemies.  You know the greatest irony of all is that the CIA people that I know are blindly patriotic - frighteningly patriotic - I wouldn't cross one of them...  They really are dedicated to flag and country.  I don't think these guys understand that that kind of dedication isn't just a public relations tactic - some people really, really feel it and will act on it.
              •  Yes, very much so (none)
                and their reactions to being betrayed at the very highest levels is what scares me.  I lived on the Maryland Eastern Shore for a time and knew several persons who worked at No Such Agency...or something similar to no such agency....one never really knew....  these are deeply patriotic people.  Patriotic for all the correct reasons.

                "My job is to protect the American people." George W. Bush. Did he?

                by PAprogressive on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:59:57 PM PDT

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      •  Plonk. (none)
        I hadn't thought of it in that light.  She may have been a bigger threat to them than Wilson.  That puts the outing on a whole other level.  High crimes, anyone?  Never mind the misdemeanors.

        And you're right.  I've been wondering if Bush sealed his fate when he alienated the professional spooks at the CIA.  First his administration selectively and deliberately distorted intelligence information over their objections, and then tried to lay the blame on them for "faulty intelligence".  

        The Bush junta may actually get off light if Fitz brings them to justice.  The spooks may have something more creative in mind.

        Grover Norquist's agenda drowned in New Orleans.

        by ignorant bystander on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:30:34 PM PDT

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        •  and the CIA (none)
          can get very creative.  Plus, they know how to cover their tracks.  I wouldn't want to be the one in their sights.  A lot of Company people have left the CIA since Porter Goss took over and politicized the place.  Imagine how pissed they are about all this.

          "My job is to protect the American people." George W. Bush. Did he?

          by PAprogressive on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:41:35 PM PDT

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        •  Yes and the Poter Goss connection (none)
          with all of the resignations that he has provoked could prove to yield interesting results...

          The CIA types are really patriotic.  They are for real - not the lipservice we have witness ad naseum for the past five years.  The rub however is that the CIA was always the GOP arm of law enforcement. FBI seemed to be a friendlier place for Democrats (Clinton's choice excepted - but Clinton was kind of dumb about appointing enemies from the other side of the aisle).

          But basically Porter Goss' move to the CIA was an attempt at stopping the hemoraging.  Also please note that the State Department is full of CIA operatives so the move to put Condi over there was another good strategy.  Powell was a true-beliver, but I think he didn't prove strong enough for BushCo's antics.  

          But both agencies, CIA and State, are out of the bunch the most autonomous and secretive and even with BushCo implants could prove very difficult to overcome.  An outsider like Goss is not likely to be let in on the real trade secrets of CIA and Condi and Karen Hughes probably think they have it all under control - but what they hell - that is what a diplomat is there to make you think until they get you with your pants down...

  •  This is what gets me. (none)
    Only 50%. WTF!

    "conservatives are the worshipers of dead radicals".

    by gandalf on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 07:37:12 PM PDT

  •  The WMD lies are treason (4.00)
    The yellowcake forgery is treason.

    Outing a CIA asset is treason.

    The conspiracy to force the Iraq war is treason.

    The conspiracy to hide all of the above is        treason.

    The Halliburton contracts and the intent to profit from the war are treason.

    Its all part of the same "game".

    A republican's head explodes whenever its pointed out that the era of high taxes was our longest sustained growth. oooops there goes another one

    by maybeeso in michigan on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:00:50 PM PDT

    •  Yes, it is (none)
      but remember this:  Rove and Libby are willing to fall on their swords over Plamegate why?  Because doing so keeps the focus on them instead of impeachment charges against Bush and Cheney.  There a bigger issue at play here.  It is all tied together, but we're missing the main event because we've been blinded by the sideshow.

      "My job is to protect the American people." George W. Bush. Did he?

      by PAprogressive on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:04:58 PM PDT

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      •  I'm not so sure (none)
        I haven't seen anybody making falling sword motions yet.  Rumors are flying that Rove is trying to hang it all on Cheney and Libby.  Cheney is at a more undisclosed location that usual.  Libby sent quaking aspen signals to Miller.  Miller has suddenly developed very selective amnesia.

        It's going to be really entertaining if five or six elephants all jump in the lifeboat at the same time.

        Grover Norquist's agenda drowned in New Orleans.

        by ignorant bystander on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:43:09 PM PDT

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      •  Bush and Cheney are included (none)
        in all the treason.  There's no way all of the Iraq mess went down without their "leadership" or at least collusion.

        A republican's head explodes whenever its pointed out that the era of high taxes was our longest sustained growth. oooops there goes another one

        by maybeeso in michigan on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:58:53 PM PDT

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