This is snap shot in time. A tin foil nugget of truth and history if you will. For those with the slightest of conspiracy leanings should look into Alex Jones, because for the most part he is right on, and at the least very entertaining. He is a lot like me and Helen Thomas, I don't care what party is in power, they are all power hunger fools. But Alex, well, read below, he took it a little farther.
SFS stands for Salt for Slugs, which was my magazine at the time. Here's helpful hint for those looking to self publish, don't fuck with Times Mirror and Wal-Mart in the same issue unless you got a lot of money and kick ass lawyers.
Enjoy, this is from 1998. SFS represent.
Alex Jones, A Man on a Mission
by stabler hsu
Alex reads the paper a lot. He reads a bunch of papers. He often reads them in smoke filled rooms armed only with a highlighter and the will to expose the corrupt. He reads them in between hosting some pretty controversial public access t.v. programs and his daily talk radio show on FM 98.9 KJFK. He reads them when he's not staging a anti-UN demonstrations on the steps of the Capitol and exposing our governments black helicopter bases where local police are engaged in secret training with the military. On the day the I arrived at the hallowed halls of the illustrious radio station KJFK, the same station that brings Howard Stern to Austin, I found Alex in his chamber steeped in stacks of newsprint striped with neon yellow ink. He sat at a conference table puffing away on a cigarette across from Steven Parker, one of those `behind the scenes' radio guys who didn't really say much at all. His silence was understandable though, because Alex has a tendency to dominate a room. To say he has presence would be a gross understatement. Alive with a passion that most people only reserve for crisis situations, Alex continues to pound away at the establishment and people are beginning to listen.
Rebel radio. Aside from his show on KJFK, Alex also does a ISDN computer feed show which sends Alex's voice via high-tech computer sound card technology to web junkies around the globe. In Austin, he airs on 95.9 North, and 95.9 South via microbroadcasters (aka: pirate radio). This is made possible by Republic Radio International in Michigan who employ satelite technology to transmit Alex and other conspiracy radio buffs to a vast array of radio listeners across the country. Alex Jones is now on over 1,000 FM micros, 6 AM commercial stations, a 100,000 watt short wave station 9.475 WWCR (Christian radio of all places), and of course, the web at: www.audiocasting.com Alex isn't paid for his show, but he does advertise his video, America Destroyed by Design. This brings us to another facet of the man behind The Real Spin.
Rebel Video. Weekly, Alex and his video crew go out on a missions to expose evil activities equipped with shoddy, rented equipment and plenty of videotape and batteries. They often strike gold in the form of Jones as a raving lunatic facing off with his unwitting rivals in a spectacle fit for prime time television. Austinites watch in awe as the camera follows Alex around as he visits the offices of the corrupt and their victims alike. In between brief moments of silent fortitude and furious rants of sheer anger, there is evidence of what make him the premier rabble rouser of our generation. Alex's true talents lie in the realm of the viewed image, for it is here that Alex's confrontational nature naturally enhances viewer interest. People love to watch an argument, and watching Alex carry on makes it interesting. Just watching the look on the other person's face while he is talking is entertainment enough. The Freedom Report, which is produced at ACTV and runs throughout the week, is one of the most interesting shows on public access cable.
On television, he frequently is dressed in a bland two-piece suit with a plain tie and he looks to be in his mid to late thirties. However, upon seeing him in person and in casual clothes, it was obvious that he is much younger, twenty-four to be exact. I commented that he looked younger in person and he just laughed and said that at one time he really used to be in shape. He said that he's been partying too much lately and hanging around with fast women. Ironically, Alex Jones shares a few vices with his nemesis Bill Clinton. As the interview commenced, the energy level shot through the roof. Alex's voice can travel a long distance even without a microphone. Hence, twice during the interview some suits came in and told him to keep it down. One suit came in with a can of air freshener and sprayed it around frantically while trying to reason with Alex about the no smoking code. While walking through the halls of the radio station, with Alex barking out comments every now and then to passersby, we began to sense how much Alex loves this business. He's a man on a mission, so beware evil-doers.
Salt for Slugs: In your research on the conspiracy stuff you report about, what scares you most about the current state of things here in the U.S.?
Alex Jones: Basically, it's the public's attitude. A lot of people are waking up to human history and what we are repeating over and over again, but so many people have been conditioned by the government controlled media to think that it's cool not to care. We see characters in pop movies where the guy who gets all the chicks is some dumb-ass who's guzzling beer and doesn't even know his name. And the guy that cares about doing well and trying to do what he or she believes in is stupid and nerdly. I'm not saying that people shouldn't go out to football games and drink beer and have a good time, I do it myself. But, at the same time, people are so apathetic and that shows me that they don't care about themselves. They have no self-image. Their image is projected to them via the television and that is where they make decisions about who they are according to what the public says they ought to be. Never before have we had so much information at our fingertips, but it's like shock therapy. People don't realize how much fucking power they have. People have a lot of power and if they just got motivated they could have a piece of that power, and they wouldn't have to step on anyone's toes to do it. Anyone who's decent and just wants to live their own life without sucking on somebody else. Now, they are going to step on parasite's toes, because parasites are greedy and petulant and have nothing but avarice for the average man. We've got to put a light on these people. We've got to smash their corrupt system. And it's coming to a violent confrontation, and it's not going to be the patriots who start it.
S.F.S.: So what do you say to people to get them to do something besides just letting it go?
Alex: People are used to being stimulated. People are drunk on entertainment and when you're going out and seeing movies where 200 people are machine gunned down and vampires are tearing people's throats out, and I'm not saying that is bad or it should be censored, but people are drunk on stimuli. So, okay the president's doing that, and we got Chinese missile bases over here. I mean they saw all that in an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie last week. The connection just isn't made. It's all blurred. That's why I try to talk about things that are right in our faces, like cameras on the highways, the I.R.S., no due process, black helicopters, these are things that I hope people will connect to. I think more and more people are waking up, although I hear a lot of people saying that if you bitch at the government it's because you've got sour grapes or you're a loser. To them I say bull. When I got into this I was happy. I had already achieved my needs and I needed to take it a step further. People want everything to come out of a drive thru window. They want it instant and they want it fast. I succumb to that, we all succumb to that. We're in it. That's the culture. So the enemy, the powers that be, the manipulators behind the scenes play to our natural weaknesses.
S.F.S.: What is the enemy doing that people should be concerned about?
Alex: It is an instituted plan being carried out strategically against this nation to de-industrialize the US. It's a tri-lateralist aim because the centralized banking establishment, the Federal Reserve and its European controllers are threatened by an industrial base that is controlled where the profits are transferred to the middle class. That creates new money that they can't contend with and new ideas. Patents, you name it, they want control over information. That's the most important thing to them. So, if you pull back from this it's simple to understand why the World Trade Organization continually rules on behalf of Third World Nations with their cheap labor, no environmental standards, no human rights. All of the jobs are going to India, China, Mexico, etc. And if that's not bad enough, they're importing foreign workers from India and China with engineering degrees and paying them $23,000 a year, when an engineer here would be paid $50,000 or more. It's not a racial issue. We're cutting off our nose to spite our face. If the US has no industrial base and all we have is networks and propaganda, what are we producing?
S.F.S.: A lot of dull people.
Alex: This is the Third World War and it's open piracy. There are corporate pirates. This is not free market, not in any shape or form. Is it free market when a big corporation uses federal and state and local regulators to run you out of business so they can have monopolies. It's corporate welfare. Only 6% at the most goes to welfare mothers and schools, etc. The vast majority of it goes to Social Security which is a payoff of the middle class to get them to be indentured servants. The rest goes to corporations. Then, as if that doesn't make you sick, the Federal Reserve is the center of the problem. It's the regional governorship of the European central banks. It was established on December 23rd, 1913 in a now illegal quorum call of three senators and they passed it. 80% of the stock is held privately, it's a seven member board, only two of them are appointed and that's to a 14 year term. They print the money and then charge the government for the right to use it. That's like you putting sixty cents into a Coke machine and the Coke comes out and I walk up and take it from you, drink it and then hand it back to you and say, Now you pay me a dollar for the right to watch me drink your Coke. It's a magic check book. It is the biggest fraud in the nation today.
S.F.S.: What was it that set you off, and how did you end up where you are now?
Alex: About six or seven years ago I started watching C-Span a lot and I just got pissed off and frustrated. I was probably a much happier person physically and mentally before I got involved in this. I was just sitting back and I saw the lies. I'd see something being reported on C-Span, and then I'd tune into the networks and see something totally different being reported. I knew right then that it was a bunch of garbage. So I got involved and I went down and got my access t.v. show. And with the lights real bright, I'd just sit frowning into the camera about three inches from my face with no crew. Six months later, people started to come down wanting to be part of my crew. I'd just go out and do stories in my own haphazard manner. Incredibly low budget, basically videotape and batteries. We'd just go out and do it.
S.F.S.: Have you gotten any offers from anyone who has wanted you to stop what you're doing and pay you to do the standard schlock?
Alex: Yes, but you can find a better radio broadcaster than Alex Jones. They want me to take my twisted wit, as they would call it, or my strange antics, or my bombastic behavior and focus that into something like what Bill Maher has done with Politically Incorrect. I mean that's politically correct.! They want me to be something like that. KJFK doesn't, but some other stations have. They want to be commercially viable and get syndicated and get producers and go big time. They want me to act like a radical and skirt the edge, but not go over the line and make alarming statements like the CIA brings drugs in, the CIA deals in white slavery, and snuff films and selling children on the world market. But things are changing in this country. This month's issue of Esquire, the cover story talks about top level DEA Task Force people saying, Oh yea, that Miami Airbase, they're shipping drugs in there. I mean it's everywhere now. More people are standing up and speaking out. The information is starting to come out even in mainstream venues. People that control the system are panicking because most people in the media aren't bad people. They just go along to get along and it's the group culture and the conditioning. As soon as they see that things are wrong, some of them will start speaking out and making a stand.
S.F.S.: Maybe we should talk some about the Delta Force and what it is they are doing with law enforcement in this country, because I don't think many people even know what the Delta Force is.
Alex: Well, I'll refer to my interview with Al Philipus (chief of San Antonio Police Department) in mid- May of 1998. I was shocked when I went down there to get this interview and find this big conservative looking police chief saying that the Delta Force tried to bribe him and other public officials in San Antonio. He said they were unprofessional, and in other cities like Miami they fired automatic weapons into all-night restaurants, and in New Orleans they caused $100,000 worth of damage to a structure. And that's all in the May 5th and 6th issues of the San Antonio Express News. I've got Ramsey Clark, former Attorney General saying that they are building concentration camps under FEMA. I've got Senator Henry B. Gonzales saying it. I've got Congressman Ron Paul saying it. The United Nations is taking over our National Parks with Executive Order #12986. It just goes on and on and on. People shouldn't feel like they don't have a stake in this and that their opinion doesn't matter. Damn it, if just 5% of people got motivated in some direction, and it doesn't necessarily have to be what I believe in, but if they just got motivated and stopped getting their political ideologies from the mainstream media, they would go out and figure out what they want. Then, they would have a lot of power. I need an empowered citizenry because right now they are a bunch of slobbering, mind-numb cattle that are going to stampede and are going to run me and my family over the goddamn fucking proverbial cliff. And I'm sorry for using profanity, but I use it because people out there are obsessed with profanity and that's another petty issue. Homosexuality is another petty issue, and all of this religious crap is another petty issue. I don't give a damn what queers do, and don't give a damn what Christians do. Just get the hell out of my way because I want to live my life and I don't want the government sucking 60% of my wages off my ass.
S.F.S.: Why do you think the government does what it does?
Alex: Why are they doing it? Why in the MK Ultra declassified 1979 documents is it shown right there, the government admitting in it's own soft soap and whitewash that in 1966 they released a biological weapon in the New York subway and death resulted, but that part remains classified? There are bunch of psychotic people with avarice. The average person is either a weakling, or just a happy person who wants to get along, or thinks being tough is having big muscles and strutting around town and having a good-looking girlfriend. Being tough is looking at the situation properly and facing it. Again, there are people who are avaricious parasites. There are psychotic geniuses in control of this planet, and to them human beings are only a commodity to be bought and sold and traded. Our human capacity is being strip mined in this nation. The U.S. is being de-industrialized. We saw that in Kyoto Japan eight months ago. It just goes on and on. These big banks in Europe fully control the Third World and the dictators of the Third World. China has a 15% tariff on the U.S. on average, and we have 2% tariff on China. The World Trade Organization calls that free trade. That is not free trade. Some of this stuff is right in your face. The Federal Reserve is private. They banned gold in 1933 and gave you paper for it. Roosevelt was a heroin running British agent. It's all on the books. If people would just go research this they would see. Because of the Internet and video and independent publishers, self-published books this information is coming out. The economy is a ponzi scheme. People are working harder than they ever have for less wages, but we have so many bobbles because manufacturing has come up so quickly over the past hundred years that people have the illusion of wealth. Wealth is no longer a nice house and a big car. All of the systems are manipulated. The semantics are manipulated. Our country is being fucked. It is an economic war and it's being fought with propaganda. We are being subdued. Germany goes on-line with the E.U. (European Union) next year on January 1, 1999. They'll have a 8.9 trillion dollar economy, where we have a 7.4 trillion dollar economy, plus they're going to be a partially backed gold currency, the gold that Roosevelt transferred to the British in 1933. It's guaranteed to happen.
S.F.S.: What do you think about people who use environmentalism to make money?
Alex: That's a good question. All of the time environmentalists come up to my door, it's usually a skinny guy with a beard, a nice guy, he probably goes to UT or ACC and he really loves the Earth. He's not a materialistic guy, he's a good guy and he's out here walking around for four or five bucks an hour. He's doing it for the community and he wants to feel like he's helping. I lean out the door and say to him, Hey, have you ever met the Board of Directors of the Sierra Club, or Greenpeace, or whatever group you're with? And he's like, No, but would you like to make a small donation, they're dumping toxic waste over here, and they're doing this over there... Now this person is a good environmentalist, but he's a dupe. He's the best person for this because he goes out and has a good spirit, and people read body language and can perceive whether or not he's telling the truth. So they've got this front person out there working his ass off, wearing his feet down trying to get some money to run a political machine that gets people elected to local and state governments.
S.F.S.: Is it true that you charged the City of Austin with Criminal Racketeering?
Alex: Well, yes they're engaged in criminal racketeering. Which charge do you mean, criminal land grabs? When so-called environmentalist groups like the Nature Conservancy and the Sierra Club get standard real estate fees of bond elections to buy park land and then they turn around and sell tracks of it, like the Brodie track they've been discussing recently. That's just out of control, and when (Austin Mayor) Kirk Watson gets $700,000+ from out of town and out of state to get elected a couple of years ago, that's flat wrong. But nowadays, it's business as usual so it's really not Racketeering. Criminality is now legal. I guess criminal racketeering these days would be like burning little children at the stake or something. That's about what it takes to get anyone to care.
S.F.S.: Have you ever gotten any death threats?
Alex: Yea, I've gotten death threats before.
S.F.S: Has anyone ever tried to carry one out?
Alex: Not really. I mean, a few things have happened, but I don't focus on that. I don't want to scare the public. I have D.P.S. vehicles that follow me around. I have them on videotape taking photographs of us at rallies. But who cares? We are living in the first stages of a tyranny. I just want an equilibrium for this country. More of us should just stand up. What do we have to ashamed of? If we are afraid of losing our jobs, if we are afraid of the government and the I.R.S., then we are living in tyranny. It's only going to get worse. You're not safe. The person that cowers in the corner and shuts their mouth is just as easy a target as I am. In fact, I'm probably in a better position as long as I concentrate locally. If I were a national short wave radio host, or I was in a few markets on FM or AM, I would probably be in more danger. But I've concentrated my firepower right here in Austin, and I'm getting more and more well-known so people are worried about removing me. I don't want to be arrogant. I don't want to be like they are. They are so arrogant, they're not worried about little Alex Jones on access television and his FM radio show six days a week. They've got all the money and the power and `yes' men licking their asses everyday. Most of the people in the establishment just think this is the way things are supposed to be. Well, I've got news for them, this is not the way it's supposed to be.
S.F.S.: Do you know about any of the underground activity beneath the city of Las Vegas that Ted Gunderson speaks of in his seminar you featured on The Freedom Report?
Alex: Ted Gunderson is a great guy. He left the F.B.I. with a sterling record when he retired in the late seventies. He documents the C.I.A. trafficking drugs and white slavery, and how the C.I.A. has actually terminated investigations that were being done by the Justice Department and others. Primarily, with a group known as The Finders in Washington, D.C. where they found a three story building filled with pornographic material of children with satellite systems to broadcast child porn, and the C.I.A. came in terminated any investigation. This is something that is in our subculture, it;'s something that the Elite all through history, back to Nero with a salon with a hundred boys at one time. Some days, he'd strangle three to four. This is something that the establishment engages in.
S.F.S.: So there isn't an underground city beneath Vegas?
Alex: He got reports from someone who was in an underground area, and that he (Gunderson) couldn't come out with it because the person was an informant and he couldn't jeopardize that. One of his informants saw an auction of children up to like $30,000 or $50,000 a piece. 10% the Gunderson documentary is documented, but even 10% of that four hours is enough to scare the hell out of you. I'll tell you this, everyday I get a hundred comments from people, `Oh, it's Mr. Black Helicopters!' I never talked about black helicopters, but it's been in the Statesman, the Lehrer News Hour, it's been everywhere. I run it over and over on my access t.v. show. Yes, black helicopter bases are real. They're for your best interest, in a secret military program with local police. That's frightening when your local police are working hand in glove in secret military programs and they say they can't talk about it. That goes back to the Delta Force. Clinton in 1998 has put out $4.6 billion for anti-terrorism training. That's political pay-off money to buy off locales and local police for a new super federal police state that is being installed as we speak. Clinton is not a liberal. He is a fascist toadie for big interest in Europe.
S.F.S.: Have you seen the Clinton Chronicles?
Alex: Yea, I've put it on. A lot of people have put it on. Roger Clinton is right there on tape saying, `I gotta go get some coke for my brother.' If you want to do cocaine, that's your business. The point is we have a president with the nuclear button under his fingertips, and this guy's running around, a whore monger, a cokehead, a degenerate, a draft dodging piece of slime. And, you know, if you wanted to be a draft dodger for the Vietnam War, I could understand that, but don't go to Russia for Victory Summits and celebrations in `78 and `79 which Clinton admits he did. Clinton is nothing but a little ass-sucking worm. He's a pussy salesman that's been used his whole life. The son-of-a-bitch hasn't worked a day. He's a god-damned piece of shit.
S.F.S.: Any comments on the current Lewinsky scandal?
Alex: Clinton needs closure. The big dirty secret is while we're hearing about Monica and Clinton inserting cigars in her and masturbating and all the rest, people are like, That's twisted and weird, but he apologized. They don't talk about the Chinese getting our missile secrets, the separation systems, the Merv technology, the ICBM technology. They don't hear about John Wong five hundred times a day with the national security computers or Secretary Ron Brown's death who oversaw that operation. There are a lot of investigations going on that are starting to come out and it's a way for the public to have closure. If Clinton does get impeached that will bring closure to the public and they'll wheel in Gore, or they'll wheel in George Bush Jr. who is being pushed by the mainstream press on a national level. Pictures of him hugging flood victims, just like Clinton with Buddy the Dog. It's all packaged.
S.F.S.: In all of your research, have you come across anything about aliens?
Alex: I'll say this, I haven't seen them myself and I don't have any frontline documentation of it. There are a lot of illusions in the sky. I've seen U.F.O. videos where its obviously a plane with light glinting off of it and they're saying it's a spaceship. The Hubbell space telescope, it's first year up after they fixed it, categorized and counted 500 billion galaxies in any one photograph field of view of dark matter. That's like grains of sand at the beach and you've just got a handful. It's massive amounts. I'm sure that of all of the galaxies, and I'm sure the universe is teeming with life. Do aliens care about this planet? Are they coming here to visit this little speck of green, this third planet from a standard G star two-thirds of the way out on the spiral arm of the Milky Way galaxy? Do they really care? I don't think they do. And if these creatures that look so humanoid that we get reports on really do exist, then I think it's humans from the future, coming back to check things out. Some people say they're gathering DNA. Perhaps they're gathering it for the future when the human race is stronger or weaker, who knows. That's science fiction and mere speculation. I know this, the Federal Reserve is private and the I.R.S. is screwing us.
S.F.S.: What have you come across as far as actions I.R.S. agents have taken against citizens?
Alex: It came out in the Senate hearings, the whitewash was alarming. One third of the bills they send out I.R.S. Commissioner Grisetti admitted are just a computer error. It's coercion, and the income tax system is entirely corrupt and this country would be great without it. Kennedy cut taxes from 4% to 2% and the economy boomed and more money came into the Federal Treasury. That's because the pie isn't a set sum, it grows. People that are reading this interview, they need to take one little bit of information I'm talking about and research it. They'll find out it's true, or they'll find that much of the aspects of it are true. Then they'll be on the path to finding out that they can mentally be free, or at least partially free, and don't have to have all of this garbage spewed down their throats.
S.F.S.: Do you really think that the reason they do the things they do is because of Satanism?
Alex: No, Tony Brown of Tony Brown's Journal says that. He just came out about it. The Order of the Illuminati, Adam Wieshaupt, Ingledstat, 1776... It's on the records, it's true. The guy was trying to overthrow Bavaria, and he had a bunch of rich and powerful people on his side. As the token aim at the end of this thing, at the end of this whole discussion, they would have their members swear allegiance to Lucifer, who they think is equal to God. Back then, everyone was Christian. So how do you get somebody to be rebellious, to prove that they're now in the cult, or now in the organized crime ring? You get them to do something that is so outrageous. The mob burns pictures of saints and cut themselves when they become made man. Why? Because good Italian boys that love (The Virgin) Mary and all the rest of that. To them, that's a dirty, nasty thing. To me, fuck Satan, fuck Jesus, fuck em all.
S.F.S.: Do you have any hope for things changing and getting better?
Alex: I think things will change, for the worse and for the better. Information and technology systems and the fourth wave that's coming, the fusion of biotech, composite materials, and information with our industrial base can either project us into the stars to a whole new level of human civilization, or it's going to be captivated by a bunch of inbred filth from Europe and we will descend lower than the beast. I want to say this, a final salvo against the corrupt establishment that hasn't even earned it's wings, they're living upon a rubble heap that's like a coral reef that they're perched on. The veneer of civilization is very thin, and I don't want war or urban strife, but I'm telling you that America has been built on barbarism, for better or for worse, a frontier nation. The veneer is very thin here. All of their little lackeys, and all of their little yuppies, and the rest of their diverted masses aren't going to amount to a hill of beans when the final conflagration comes, if it does. I hope it doesn't, but I know the enemy. The Government will press it, like they did with Oklahoma City and that's another story. Just like Hitler and the Riech Stag in `33, they create fear to get Clinton's approval ratings up from 31% to 69% in a couple of weeks. They just better watch their asses because they're not going to like what happens.