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  •  Olbermann ran it last Friday night (none)
    It's a hoot.

    Speaking of Olbermann. Does anyone remember the neon-boobies ads last week? I recall someone pointing out the MSNBC would get more mileage if they ran ads for Olbermann here instead. Low and behold....

  •  Just curious. (none)
    Is there any republican that Jack Abramoff hasn't given money to?
    •  I'm guessing... (none)
      Not to Ron Paul.

      "I desire what is good. Therefore, everyone who does not agree with me is a traitor." King George III

      by ogre on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 12:20:39 AM PST

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      •  I bet you're right (none)
        I'd also bet not to Walter Jones either. Jones may be ultraconservative, but he's old-school Christian, the type that doesn't like to meddle in the running of casinos.
        •  Bzzt (none)

          $1250 from Jack Abramoff to Walter Jones. $250 on 9/29/1996 and $1000 on 3/08/1999.

          And the answer to the question of "Who hasn't Jack Abramoff given money to?" is "Chris Shays"

          "Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz

          by RBH on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 06:36:40 AM PST

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      •  Bzzt (none)

        $250 from Jack Abramoff to Ron Paul on September 30th, 1996.

        "Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz

        by RBH on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 06:23:10 AM PST

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        •  $250 almost 10 yrs. ago? (none)
          Wow he must own him.  ;)
          •  Naah (none)
            Ron Paul's Intrepretation of the Constitution owns Ron Paul.

            Which means "No acknowledging other countries", "No Congressional Gold Medals" and so on.

            But yeah, Ron Paul got $250 from Abramoff, when Jack was giving money out to anybody who was running for a close seat.

            In general, Ron Paul gets most of his contributions (2/3rds of them) from outside of Texas.

            "Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz

            by RBH on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 07:02:03 AM PST

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  •  But... but... (none)
    It's not "balanced".

    (Just factually correct...)

    "I desire what is good. Therefore, everyone who does not agree with me is a traitor." King George III

    by ogre on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 12:20:12 AM PST

  •  We need one of those mug shots for Dubya too (none)
    Five years in prison for violating the HISA of 1978 times thirty violations equals life in prison. I can dream can't I?

    The Only Constant is Change

    by proudprogressiveCA on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 12:22:56 AM PST

  •  To be fair ... (none)
    The Flash animation did contain some stuff that really can't be blamed on Bush at all, just humanity in general.  Like the pirate attack on a cruise ship in Somalia.  I don't even see how that made it into the year in review ... it's a rather insignificant event.
    •  Iffy (none)
      I believe the pirate attack took place in international waters, and therefore responsibility for policing such crimes falls to the international community at large.  

      Not really Bush's fault at all, but if you're going to throw around the "Hulk is the strongest there is!" schtick about being the world's only  superpower, you get some blame for stuff like this, too.  

    •  The subtext (none)
      Was not that it was all George's fault but that it was a tough year. A "hard" year for poor George, and I suppose you could say that in linking things like the Somalia piracy with Scooter Libby it actually makes George look less like the master of disaster and more like a hapless victim.

      But isn't it interesting how things have changed since Clinton was president? Hell in those days everything WAS the president's fault.

  •  Brighter Days (none)
    That was pretty Damned funny, well worth the watch.  Lets hope that 2-0-6 is indeed brighter, Bush does less damage, and we take back the House. the name of a totalitarian ideology that hates freedom, rejects tolerance, and despises all dissent
    -G.W. Bush
    -7.00 -7.74

    by Luam on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 12:28:05 AM PST

  •  Jib Jab (none)
    The local Fox affiliate ran it on their local news here in Minneapolis.  I was rather surprised.
  •  Absolutely fabulous (none)
    damn...that must have been really fun to create!

    explain how letting gays marry will directly affect your own heterosexual relationship?

    by bluestatesam on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 12:35:29 AM PST

  •  that picture (none)
    totally just made my night!!!

    I re-did my website! See how pretty is now.

    by OrangeClouds115 on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 12:42:14 AM PST

  •  someone certainly knows (none)
    how to work with their flash animation.
  •  Do they still go on Leno? (none)
    Or have they come down a bit since then?

    I remember their "humor" last year, like having McGreevey dance around in a tutu. I wonder if this is the kind of material they have for their new release.

  •  Honestly, I think it misses the point (4.00)
    The central ideas of this piece seem to be:

    1. Bush is kinda stupid (saying '2-0-5' instead of '2-0-0-5', etc.)
    2. There's a lot of bad shit going down right now

    but they go out of their way to avoid saying

    3) A lot of this bad shit is going down because bush is stupid.

    In fact, with their "it's hard bein' president when the world's so crazy!" theme at the end, they seem to be echoing Bush's own "It's hard work! I'm workin' hard!" talking point. Unless they're being subtler than I think they are, they're implicitly arguing against pinning any of the responsibility for the world's sorry shape on Bush. In the absence of that, the only thing that's left is a sort of toothless silliness.

    I think in a way this points to the problem I've had with JibJab from the start. A lot of the time it seems like rather than saying anything meaningful politically, their stuff tends to just put a bunch of political stuff in a wacky context in the hopes that it'll be funny. As I see it, the function of political comedy -- and probably comedy in general -- is to highlight hypocrisy, incompetence, and just basic silliness in society or among the powerful. Comedy works as the kid who shouts that the emperor has no clothes, or the jester who's allowed to speak freely about the king. JibJab... doesn't so much do that.

    Nobody lends money to a man with a sense of humor -- Peter Tork, "Head"

    by Field Marshall Stack on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 01:58:26 AM PST

    •  Thanks for being eloquent (none)
      I agree with you, although I wasn't so eloquent in my objections (as you can see in my post further up).  The Flash anim even brought up the pirate attack on a cruise liner off the coast of Somalia.  That really had nothing to do with Bush.
    •  Very well said (none)
      After the stuff they did last year, I really don't see what's so great about them.
    •  Actually I thought it was pretty good (none)
      I think they know they aren't going to get national play if it comes off as a partisan attack.  Plus they are probably trying to cash in on their "This Land" fame while people still remember them.  They will lose half their audience if it seems they are taking sides on issues.

      Given this, I thought it was pretty good.  It brought up alot of issues I'm sure many Americans forgot about or more likely didn't even know about in the first place. I can just see someone watching it and hearing that "the housing market's 'bout to pop" and thinking --- What's that mean?!?!  

      My favorite part is the look on the reporters faces when he started singing.  I imagine that has been their look in much of 2005 as he and McClellan have given spin after spin trying to save what is left of their credibility.  

    •  I agree (4.00)
      • It trivializes/makes light of ongoing disasters and serious things (Katrina aftermath, Iraq/Palestine, GOP corruption, torture) that just plain aren't funny (kind of like Bush's 'Where are those WMD' jokes).

      • Makes Bush appear to be a sympathetic figure and  gives him a big pass in the accountability department. [those problems 'just land on my desk'(?!) Sheesh.]

      I can see why Fox ran it. It also got a lot of airplay on CNN.
    •  Cute--but I think it's time to shun (none)
      Bush in all respects but one--call for his impeachment.  First, however, we need an indictment of Cheney.  So, my recipe is


      the whole 9/11 crew

      Forget "GOD, GUNS, GAYS, GIRLS & GETS"

      by hannah on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 03:58:48 AM PST

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    •  humor does not have to be (none)
      Partisan to get the point across. Jib Jab Imho use Bush as a device, not a punchline.

      This isn't about bush, it is about 2005. He played a major role in it but there was a lot going on that he had no control of. See pirates.

      If you take yourself too seriously, no one else will.

      by Yoshimi on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 05:44:47 AM PST

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      •  Partisanship (none)
        I agree with you that humor doesn't have to be partisan to get its point across, except I question whether this takes a non-partisan position. Honestly, I don't think there is a non-partisan position when the question at hand is whether Bush is responsible for the sorry state America's in, or if he's just some hapless onlooker. This little video (which I sort of feel uncomfortable treating as a serious object for inquiry, but c'est la vie) really does seem to be working as an apologetic for the administration.

        Nobody lends money to a man with a sense of humor -- Peter Tork, "Head"

        by Field Marshall Stack on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 11:17:37 AM PST

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  •  Collision (4.00)
    I posted this in my diary yesterday, but no one seems to have seen it.

    Max Hattler has posted his animated film Collision on the net. It's a mix of Islamic patterns and American quilts and the colors and geometry of flags as an abstract field of reflection. The result is a funky poltically charged experience that will leave you thinking.

    Collision was Directed and animated by Max Hattler, Royal College of Art 2005

  •  The laughin has gone lost for me ... (none)
    All of it is no laughing matter anymore.

    I don't want to laugh anymore, even if it's good. Times are over for this cute stuff, damnit. Nothing is cute anymore, got it?

    I just started reading Clarke's new novel: Scorpiongate. The I read this.

    Oh, my gosh, I wished I could order those crews of psychologists to work on the leadership elite of this administration. They actually could do something useful and necessary for the country, if they just analyzed themselves instead of us.

  •  this made me laugh (none)

    "To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice." Confucius

    by Patriot4peace on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 04:35:54 AM PST

  •  I'm not so enamored (none)
    Jib Jab's use of music in the public domain to cut costs reminds me of Disney using fairy tales for story ideas. They're getting stale for the same reason.

    I also think the editing and animation isn't as sharp as previous efforts. And even those efforts can be mind numbingly dull. Does every cartoon have Hillary slapping Bill? It seems like it.

    Echoing earlier sentiments, I think that many who previously harbored anger against Bush ("Incompetent or corrupt, I don't care, I don't like him") are now seeing incompetence more and more as an excuse. Take Katrina for example.

    There's a difference between reacting badly to a situation beyond the administration's control and proactively creating policies that either jeopardize stability or actually cause problems.

    •  This one didn't have Hillary slapping Bill (none)
      I don't either character appeared in it at all. But I agree that it felt stale compared with previous efforts. The rhymes, especially, seem to be getting more and more forced.

      "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

      by Geenius at Wrok on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 06:17:13 AM PST

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  •  If JibJab was too impartial for you... (none)
    perhaps this will amuse you. Baby Bush Toys. They're what every slacker child needs.

    If you can't support the veterans you have, don't make any new ones.

    by slackjawedlackey on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 04:50:46 AM PST

  •  Cute as shit, kos (none)
    Wish his melonhead would've exploded at the  end...but that's just me.

    The future ain't what it used to be. Yogi Berra

    by x on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 05:08:40 AM PST

  •  A good one? (none)
    Totally agree with the poster who points out that this sort of exonerates bush. "The world's crazy and I got a tough job." There is nothing impartial about supporting that spin at this point. Also find it hard to believe that anyone would find 'This Land' impartial. Someone tell me please which cultural icon carries more weight in the US; the 'Liberal Weenie' with the French (gasp) beret, or, the 'Cowboy'?
  •  Fair and balanced (none)
    While Bush comes off as putting up excuse after excuse, there are several things that make me hate their "fair and balanced" approach, just like last year's equivalency of Bush and Kerry.

    To wit, Cindy Sheehan's folks at Camp Casey did not parade with "We Hate You" signs.  This is how "peace protester called soldiers 'baby-killer' stories get started".

    I was unimpressed.

    -6.00/-7.18 The revolution starts now--in your own back yard, in your own home town

    by TarheelDem on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 05:19:19 AM PST

  •  Plenty of images we didn't see (none)
    Agreed that this trivializes and exonerates Bush, who now seems surrounded by bad people when he's just doin' his best. I wish they had excoriated the bastard. Their version of satire-lite is getting offensive.

  •  FOIA link (none)
    Go here and submit your own Freedom of Information Act request for any and all records related to possible surveillance by NSA or other intelligence agencies related to ::your name::.  It's fun . . . and easy!
  •  JibJab is scum (4.00)
    Their true political leanings can be seen in "Second Term", their paean to Bush after his victory.

    In "This Land", didn't anyone notice that the jokes at Kerry echoed Repub talking points?  Kerry was depicting as having overhyped his Vietnam service, having "more flip flops than a house of pancakes", and, of course, getting Botox.

    Bush had hardly any digs that might dent his support - the chief one, his alleged lack of intelligence, was really more a crack at "elitist" liberals than at the president.

    Overall, "This Land" may have had only a small impact on the election, but it was almost certainly in Bush's favor.

  •  Bad for DeLay, but good for Bush (none)
    JibJab shills for Bush if you look across their entire body of work. In this most recent piece, Bush is presented as trying hard, but hey, it's a mad mad mad mad world!


    Most of the incidents that they highlight either directly result from Bush policy or were exacerabated by it.

    Notice also that JJ is happy to bash those who are dragging down The Party, such as DeLay. Hell, they even have Bush dumping DeLay, totally ignoring the obvious jury tampering efforts and "full support" he's giving DeLay.

    Screw 'em. They are the equivalent to all the John Harrises and TV talking heads that promote a false equivalency, he-said-she-said form of "reporting".

  •  I'm shocked that you like this (none)
    It shows Bush as being this cute guy who's "trying the best he can" while everything and everyone around him torments him.

    To me it paints him in a very appealing light.

    I'm curious as to why you like this ....?

    Not trying to be an asshole here, just curious.

  •  Time to learn Flash? (none)
    While I agree with many here that JibJab lobs "softballs" at Bush (and other political targets) I take these Flashtoons for what they are:  a few moments of mild diversionary entertainment when I'm actually supposed to be working.

    Even if I wish these JibJab productions had a bit more bite, I do think they are talented - I like the graphics, lyrical flow, etc. and the guy who impersonates Bush is quite good (except that he doesn't stutter or mangle sentences.)

    Perhaps it would be more satisfying for many of us here if the equivalent of, say, Tom Tomorrow...or Doonesbury?.... were to manifest itself through the medium of clever Flash presentations.  
    I'd tune in.

    So perhaps it is time for someone out there to learn Flash.
    Toon Boom Express is also a good choice.  Musical ability would be a plus.  

    Don't look at me, though.  I'm up to my ears in learning other software as it is.

  •  Jib Jab damn funny (none)
    they want $2 for an ad free clip! har! especially since the animation wasn't. - Political and Community Coverage of NYC

    by atomicBirdsong on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 10:27:26 AM PST

  •  Unsatisfying (none)
    It was mildly amusing but hardly bust-a-gut funny. Probably because so much of it was true. Plus I had to watch a commercial for a product I am 100% not interested in. Commercials are what made me stop watching TV. Jib jab is on that list now too.

    A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

    by Paper Cup on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 12:01:41 PM PST

  •  They've always bee weak (none)
    This is mainstream crap comedy. It's boring, obvious, humor. This is the kind of stuff Bush would even chuckle at. Completely harmless, Gallagher humor. Colbert, Stewart, and the Family Guy are funny because they expose some truth. These guys just have some good flash animators.
  •  Wow, a whole forum misses the point (none)
    Some people are way too uptight.

    JibJab never has been and never will be "news", or a legitimate source of information, and it never has claimed to be. It is purely, strictly, solely, current-events humor.

    These guys want fame and celebrity, not to be political crusaders. Only a moron would take a strong partisan stance when the idea is to MAXIMIZE internet traffic and win the favor of media bigshots of all ideologies.

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