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Smoking Bullet in the Smoking Gun?

Sun May 29, 2005 at 11:08:35 AM PDT

Update [2005-5-29 14:8:35 by Armando]: From the diaries by Armando. We generally shy away from promoting the diaries, wonderful and welcome as they are, from our elected officials. I am breaking our general rule here because I think it is a particularly important diary. This diary from the esteemed Congressman is based upon the following story:
THE RAF and US aircraft doubled the rate at which they were dropping bombs on Iraq in 2002 in an attempt to provoke Saddam Hussein into giving the allies an excuse for war, new evidence has shown. The attacks were intensified from May, six months before the United Nations resolution that Tony Blair and Lord Goldsmith, the attorney-general, argued gave the coalition the legal basis for war. By the end of August the raids had become a full air offensive. The details follow the leak to The Sunday Times of minutes of a key meeting in July 2002 at which Blair and his war cabinet discussed how to make “regime change” in Iraq legal. Geoff Hoon, then defence secretary, told the meeting that “the US had already begun ‘spikes of activity’ to put pressure on the regime”. The new information, obtained by the Liberal Democrats, shows that the allies dropped twice as many bombs on Iraq in the second half of 2002 as they did during the whole of 2001, and that the RAF increased their attacks even more quickly than the Americans did. ... Tommy Franks, the allied commander, has since admitted this operation was designed to “degrade” Iraqi air defences in the same way as the air attacks that began the 1991 Gulf war. It was not until November 8 that the UN security council passed resolution 1441, which threatened Iraq with “serious consequences” for failing to co-operate with the weapons inspectors. The briefing paper prepared for the July meeting — the same document that revealed the prime minister’s agreement during a summit with President George W Bush in April 2002 to back military action to bring about regime change — laid out the American war plans. ... The systematic targeting of Iraqi air defences appears to contradict Foreign Office legal guidance appended to the leaked briefing paper which said that the allied aircraft were only “entitled to use force in self-defence where such a use of force is a necessary and proportionate response to actual or imminent attack from Iraqi ground systems”.

These are revelations of not only systematic efforts to bring a war against Iraq in most of 2002, it appears to be evidence that war was BEING CONDUCTED against Iraq in 2002. Representative Conyers provides us some new information on the question he has presented to Secretaryof Defense Rumsfled and an action item.

This morning I read the new revelations, again the London Times, that British and U.S. aircraft had substantially stepped up their bombing activity in the summer of 2002 in an effort to "goad Saddam into War."  If true, we would seem to have the "smoking bullet" to the "smoking gun" of the Downing Street Memo.

I have prepared a letter to Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld detailing these new charges and asking for his response (see extended entry).  Since the House is out of session next week, I plan to submit it by myself on Tuesday.

Of course, this new disclosure makes my letter asking 100,000 citizens to write to President Bush, located at www.johnconyers.com, all the more important   As my back-office administrator is closed for the holiday, I do not expect to have specific numbers of signatures until Tuesday, however needless to say, the response has been overwhelming from everything I can gage thus far.

May 31, 2005

Hon. Donald Rumsfeld
Secretary of Defense
The Pentagon
Arlington, VA

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld:

    I write with an urgent and important request that you respond to a report in the London Times on Sunday, May 29, indicating that British and U.S. aircraft increased their rates of bombing in 2002 in order to provoke an excuse for war in Iraq.  Much of this information is provided by the British Ministry of Defense in response to questions posed by Liberal Democrat Sir Menzies Campbell.  

    As you may know, on May 6, I wrote to President Bush, along with 88 of my colleagues in the House of Representatives, asking him to respond to allegations first revealed in the London Times on May 1, that the U.S. and British government had a secret plan to invade Iraq by the summer of 2002, well before the Bush Administration requested authorization for military action, from the U.S. Congress.  A response is still pending on that request.

    The allegations and factual assertions made in the May 29 London Times are in many respects just as serious as those made in the earlier article.  They include the following:

*    "The RAF and U.S. aircraft doubled the rate at which they were dropping bombs in 2002 ....  The attacks were intensified from May .... By the end of August the raids had become a full air offensive."  Then British Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon reportedly told a British Cabinet Meeting in July, 2002, that by this time "the U.S. had already begun `spikes of activity' to put pressure on the regime."  The newly released information also appears to show that "the allies dropped twice as many bombs on Iraq in the second half of 2002 as they did during the whole of 2001."

*    According to the article, this increase at the rate of bombing was "an attempt to provoke Saddam Hussein into giving the allies an excuse for war."  As I am sure you are aware, allied commander Tommy Franks has previously acknowledged the existence of increased military operations which he asserted were needed "to `degrade' Iraqi air defenses in the same way as the air attacks that began the 1991 Gulf War."

*    The new information goes on to indicate that our military decided "on August 5, 2005 [sic], for a `hybrid plan" in which a continuous air offensive and special forces would begin while the main ground force built up in Kuwait for a full-scale invasion."  According to the article, "despite the lack of an Iraqi reaction, the air war began anyway in September with a 100-plane raid."

    The allegations and factual assertions made in the May 29 London Times are in many respects just as serious as those made in the earlier article.  If true, these assertions indicate that not only had our nation secretly and perhaps illegally agreed to go to war by the summer of 2002, but that we had gone on to take specific and tangible military actions before asking Congress or the United Nations for authority.

    Thus, while there is considerable doubt as to whether the U.S. had authority to invade Iraq, given, among other things, the failure of the U.N. to issue a follow-up resolution to the November 8, 2002 Resolution 1441, it would seem that the act of engaging in military action via stepped up bombing raids that were not in response to an actual or imminent threat before our government asked for military authority would be even more problematic from a legal as well as a moral perspective.

    As a result of these new disclosures, I would ask that you respond as promptly as possible to the following questions:

1)    Did the RAF and the United States military increase the rate that they were dropping bombs in Iraq in 2002?  If so, what was the extent and timing of the increase?

2)    What was the justification for any such increase in the rate of bombing in Iraq at this time?  Was this justification reviewed by legal authorities in the U.S.?

3)    To the best of your knowledge, was there any agreement with any representative of the British government to engage in military action in Iraq before authority was sought from the Congress or the U.N.?  If so, what was the nature of the agreement?

In connection with all of the above questions, please provide me with any memorandum, notes, minutes, documents, phone and other records, e-mails, computer files (including back-up records)  or other material of any kind or nature concerning or relating thereto in the possession or accessible by the Department of Defense.

    I would encourage you to provide responses to these questions as promptly as possible, as they raise extremely grave and serious questions involving the credibility of our Administration and its constitutional responsibilities.  In the interest of time, please feel free to forward me partial responses as they become available.

    Sincerely,

    John Conyers, Jr.
    Ranking Member

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  •  will sign your petition in a minute (4.00 / 5)

    This is too important not to pay attention to! Hopefully the media will actually pay attention to this, but they've completely distorted the Downing Street issue by calling it a "memo" which makes Americans think of it as a piece of paper from a higher-up to an underling.
    •  Here's the link to the petition itself (4.00 / 5)

      The Petition

      Go and sign!

      John McCain will end Roe v. Wade if he's president.

      by Phoenix Woman on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:43:24 AM PDT

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    •  These missions were known ... (4.00 / 2)

      CENTCOM revealed that it had spent considerable time, prior to the actual attack in March 2003, identifying and neutralizing targets inside Iraq.

      The optical communication network was destroyed, as were critical parts of the Iraqi early warning system, radar defenses, etc.
      These attacks were stepped up during the fall of 2002. As such, this is therefore not news - however, it was probably missed in the general uproar over the main attack, as well as the euphoria in the media over "Mission Accomplished."

      "I don't do quagmires, and my boss doesn't do nuance."

      by SteinL on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:44:27 AM PDT

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      •  For sticklers: Fiber Optical communication system (none / 1)

        "I don't do quagmires, and my boss doesn't do nuance."

        by SteinL on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:51:38 AM PDT

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      •  True, these operations were vaguely reported on... (none / 1)

        HOWEVER,
        the reason, we were told, was to neutralize Saddam's power to re-build his ally-base.  It was to CONTAIN his power, NOT to pre-cede an all-out war for regime change.
        The Downing Street Minutes is proof, where before there WAS none. This is a matter of the pieces all falling into place.
        We've been speculating up until this point, and now we're viewing it through a lens of truth.
        •  Definitely - (4.00 / 2)

          The collusion, lies and obfuscations were well under way, while our "brave" leaders were pretending to be willing to "exhaust every peaceful option".

          "I don't do quagmires, and my boss doesn't do nuance."

          by SteinL on Sun May 29, 2005 at 12:36:43 PM PDT

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          •  Brave Leaders? (none / 0)

            You mean the chicken hawks - right? g

            Blows my mind that the assholes who got us in to this mess have never served a day of actualy military service between them.  Junior, Cheney, Rice... Me thinks they're this gung-ho cos they're feeling guilty for ducking out in their youth.  Problem is - they're cock-ups are causing tens of thousands of deaths and the toll is climbing higher every day.

            Somebody's gonna pay for this sh*t - BIGtime!

            •  They don't feel guilty for shit. (none / 0)

              To make a huge overgeneralization, guilt is a liberal emotion.  These people don't feel guilt.  Or remorse.  Or anything along those lines.

              You can list a number of political and socio-economic reasons why Bush and his neocon allies decided to invade Iraq, but as for personal reasons -- and pardon the graphic characterization to follow -- this war, the reports they get, the videos they see, and the knowledge that they are responsible for all of it, makes their dicks harder than anything they can do with a woman (or a man, or a mule, even).  Ever wonder why Bush smirks so much while he's discussing the death and destruction of this war?  Now you know.  I'm surprised we haven't seen him humping the podium during some of his speeches.

              The History Commons needs your participation.

              by Black Max on Mon May 30, 2005 at 08:52:28 AM PDT

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        •  Great Point (none / 1)

          You make a great point.  One of the real outrages in this situation is the misrepresentation of what we were doing.  Containment vs. provoking war are two very different things.
    •  I signed it too (4.00 / 2)

      After reading this diary, I went to Conyer's website and signed his letter to W.

      Keep up the great work, Mr. Congressman! America needs you to continue this work.

      *How could 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?*

      by clueless on Sun May 29, 2005 at 10:39:33 AM PDT

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      •  have a 4 for good citizenship! (none / 1)

        Thanks
      •  While you are over there signing... (4.00 / 3)

        Be sure and hit the donation/contribute page as well.  If we want politicians who will stand with us as opposed to corporations, we have to support their work.

        I put in $25.00 last month and will add a hundred today.

        A leader like Conyers is worth keeping the car parked a bit more between trips, doing without meat for a few meals, skipping some meals out this month.

        You know it is the right thing to do, so just do it.

        Now.

        Contribute to Rep. Conyers

        •  Hehe (none / 0)

          Found ya!! :o)

          A ship adrift in a sea of rhetoric & recycled clichés.

          by Terre on Sun May 29, 2005 at 05:21:13 PM PDT

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        •  Rep. Conyers needs a PAC... (none / 0)

          ...his own district is pretty safe, so he doesn't need to worry too much about his own reelection.  But given his high profile of late, and the fact that he's won friends and influenced people (apologies to Dale Carnegie) on Kos of late, he's got some pretty significant fundraising mojo at the moment.

          Since he's obviously one of "us," (i.e., a progressive), he could use the money to help other House progressives in tough races and to elect Democrats in places like Hyde's and DeLay's districts...

          Come on, Congressman...you know it would be sweet revenge for 1998 to put a strong progressive in Henry Hyde's seat!!!

          "There is nothing false about hope." -- Barack Obama

          by DC Pol Sci on Mon May 30, 2005 at 08:33:26 AM PDT

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  •  Thank You Congressman (4.00 / 5)

    For all that you do for the people of America and Iraq.
    •  I join these thanks, and point to growing support (4.00 / 14)

      Democrats.com is offering a $1,000 reward to anyone who can get the President to answer this question:

      "In July 2002, did you or your administration 'fix' the intelligence and facts about non-existent Iraqi WMDs and ties to terrorism -- which were disputed by US intelligence officials -- to sell your decision to invade Iraq to Congress, the American people, and the world - as quoted in the Downing Street Minutes?"

      link to a post about this at AfterDowningStreet.org.

      link to democrats.com

      Well, Mark, the President has worked to elevate the discourse in this town.
      -- Scott McClellan 5/17/2005

      by coloradobl on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:24:57 AM PDT

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    •  Thank you, thank you, thank you, Congressman! (4.00 / 2)

      Thank you very much, Congressman Conyers, for all your efforts.  This letter campaign is brilliant!  I too would like to know how many signatures your have received. Please let us know.

      I also watched your panel discussion on the media on C-Span. Loved it.  So many worthwhile comments and observations were made.  I particularly liked the suggestion made by one of your panelists - that you take the Downing Street Memo and Your Letter to the President and march into the office of the Publisher of the Washington Post and demand that the Post cover the story in greater depth.

      I very much admire your courage, conviction and perservance - qualities somewhat AWOL in too many of our Democratic leadership.  Please see my suggestions for improving our Party's message at:
      TO THE BARRICADES, DEMOCRATS!

      My very best to you, Sir.  Keep up the good fight.

      Floyd Johnson
      Peoria, Arizona

  •  Always on the money (4.00 / 5)

    & the rapid response is terrific!

    I tried to sign yesterday but I kept getting an error message on the petition link... I'll give it another shot now.

  •  I already signed the petition, (none / 1)

    but I'm curious: Do people in such powerful positions as Rumsfeld ever answer inquiries like this without widespread media coverage? I've seen that Waxman's minority office of the Committee on Government Reform is typically ignored for months on an issue until the mainstream media picks it up.

    Seattle Transit Blog http://seattletransitblog.com

    by Bensch on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:17:40 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for keeping up with... (4.00 / 13)

    ... everything concerned with the Downing Street Memo...

    I will quote a comment I made last night in another thread:

    At the rate I and.... a significant number of visitors to Conyers' letter webpage see the server get bogged down, I think they are getting hammered with traffic... which means (we hope) that many, many people are trying to sign that letter. (I get emails about that because people complain to me at downingstreetmemo.com that "the link doesn't work" when it is Conyers' server that is overloaded...)
    Let's see how fast the sigs go over 100,000
    You may need server capacity increased even more now... can you look into this? (a "good" problem to have, too much traffic :-)
  •  Do you ever sleep, Congressman Conyers? (4.00 / 11)

    I don't know how you come up with so much in s so little time.  Take care of yourself!  We need you so much.

    It does not take many words to tell the truth. - Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

    by Gabriele Droz on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:28:51 AM PDT

    •  Along with many of our fore-fathers (none / 1)

      Congressman Conyers will go down in history as one of our true American patriots and statesmen.  We thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your service.  We know it can't be easy to buck a system that is so stacked against you.
  •  Thank you (4.00 / 3)

    Thank you, sir.   As soon as you sumbit this letter, could you post an official link here, please?  The official link to your press release on the Downing Street Minutes helped me convince several non-believers that there might actually be a story here.  Prior to that, they thought it was a scam.  

    Public Interest Law: Twice the schooling - half the pay.

    by chassit on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:30:51 AM PDT

  •  How To Seize the Media? (4.00 / 2)

    Congressman Conyers --

    You have become an invaluable progressive voice. Of course, as on another thread, the question remains -- how do you amplify that voice beyond blogs? Recent political antics have shown the relative ineffectiveness of gathering "x thousand" signatures, particularly online.

    How do you get an angle that cuts and cuts deep, even from within the minority? This seems to be the question that rages, and one that I would like to see you address as boldly as your actions and interests have shown lately.

    "We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins

    by TX Unmuzzled on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:30:52 AM PDT

    •  Downing Street Memo bumper sticker, (4.00 / 3)

      if you have a car. This is automobile blogging.
    •  This IS how he's getting the issue out (3.50 / 2)

      See, he tells us about it first -- because he knows that we will ACT on it, instead of just chatting amongst ourselves.

      If we start writing to papers and calling TV/radio call-in shows and talking to our friends/neighbors about this, we will be the ones spreading the word.

      This is what Howard Dean meant when he says that "You Have The Power".  In the end, it is US, not the Congress, that has the power.  WE must be the ones to bang the gongs to wake up our fellows.

      Here's some media addresses and phone numbers.  You know what to do:

      E-Mails: letters@nytimes.com, letters@latimes.com, editor@usatoday.com,letters@washpost.com, atc@npr.org, totn@npr.org  

      Phone numbers: National Public Radio:  1-800-989-TALK (8255); MSNBC:  1-888-MSNBC-USA.

      John McCain will end Roe v. Wade if he's president.

      by Phoenix Woman on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:49:06 AM PDT

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    •  I diaried a suggestion (none / 0)

      Arthur (media strike) and Apian (flood the media with emails) need to coordinate their efforts with those of Conyers and have a spike in activity occurring on the same day that Conyers delivers the signatures to Bush, rather than having each activity occur in a vacuum.  Others have suggested large demonstrations, but I'm skeptical about whether such can be organized in this timeframe.
  •  Thank you (none / 0)

    and to echo a question above, what does it take to get MSM to pick this up? Also, date typo below:

    The new information goes on to indicate that our military decided "on August 5, 2005, for a `hybrid plan" in which a continuous air offensive and special forces would begin while the main

    Let your hopes, not your hurts, shape your future.

    by philinmaine on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:31:05 AM PDT

  •  Are you working on a Sunday? (none / 0)

    I bet next you're going to say stuff like you don't golf nor do you own a yacht or belong to a resort club.

    What kind of American are you?

    You and your fancy "searching for answers." (or corrections, or effeciancy or truth)

    You see, life is about questions. And not questioning those questions. You see, Saddam had WMD's. He just did. And what we're doing right now can't be corrected, because it's already in the past, and you can't change the past. You see, there's this old Tennessee sa-Texas saying...maybe they say it in Tennessee too -don't ask for what you can't change. That's how the saying goes.

    No, you should be racking up DUI's, going to fundraisers, or offering lip service to a congregation that you shall never give another thought to.

    You know, the real keys to success.

  •  Going to take OUR commitment (4.00 / 3)

    Good question you ask, when will the MSM pick this up...?

    It's always about the money; the MSM does not serve the public interest, they serve shareholders and their more valuable clients, the advertisers.

    It's going to take a concerted effort on the part of progressives to change that dynamic, and Kossacks could lead the way:

    -- Write a letter to every local newspaper asking them why their coverage of incriminating evidence is lacking;

    -- Write a letter to advertisers who buy space in local papers and on local airwaves and tell them you are going to stop buying their products because they advertise through a medium which is suppressing real news;

    -- Write a letter to the FCC regarding any broadcaster in the local area which has not spent adequate time on this topic and complain that the broadcaster is not representing the public's interest and that the broadcaster's license should be reviewed;

    -- Be sure to send a copy of the FCC letter to the broadcaster.

    But we ALL must do this; it works for the VRWC's media arm, Bozell's Parents' Television Council.  We can make it work for us.

    Sic 'em!!

  •  If I was a republican troll, I would ask, (none / 0)

    "If the bullet is still in the 'smoking gun,' does that mean you are just blowing smoke?"

    The gentleman's metaphor is a bit strained.

  •  Past-tense for August 5, 2005? (none / 0)

    or, merely a typo?
  •  Congressman (4.00 / 4)

    How likely is it that you can rouse your colleagues to heed Joe Madison's call for you to march en masse to the WAPO offices, brandishing the DSM and demand they cover the story? Can the shackles of "propriety" be overcome?

    Corruption in high places demands extraordinary action.

    Thank you for your tireless commitment.

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:54:16 AM PDT

    •  it's not so much a function (none / 0)

      of the shackles...i just don't think that's congressman conyers' style.  maybe i'm wrong.  

      "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

      by Cedwyn on Sun May 29, 2005 at 08:27:45 PM PDT

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    •  I, too, (none / 0)

      thought that was a hell of an idea, marching en masse on the Post offices and demanding coverage.  The march itself would be, or at least should be, front-page news.

      Why doesn't Madison broadcast over the Internet?  Come on, Radio One!  (Or do they, and am I clueless?)

      The History Commons needs your participation.

      by Black Max on Mon May 30, 2005 at 09:02:04 AM PDT

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  •  WE NEED A PETITION "BAT" LIKE DEAN.. (4.00 / 4)

    So we can know how many people have signed this petition..
  •  Impeachment petitions (4.00 / 6)

    Given these British revelations, the Amnesty International and Human Rights reports, and innumerable incidences of perjury by senior Bush administration officials before Congress, when may we expect our Democratic representatives in the House to start filing impeachment petitions?

    George Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, Antonio Gonzales and John Bolton are all certainly guilty of frankly impeachable offenses.  Proof is not hard to find against any of them.  

    Of course the Republican House will not move these petitions forward, but is the House not obliged at least to conduct an investigation of an impeachment petition?

    Agitprop political theater may be one of the few ways to penetrate the bread-and-circuses nature of our current corporate media culture.  I would hope there are at least a few rabble-rousers willing to throw these political Molotov cocktails and begin to turn the debate.

    Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

    by Dallasdoc on Sun May 29, 2005 at 10:07:57 AM PDT

    •  We all know (none / 0)

      that articles of impeachment will never get out of the House no matter what evidence comes down the pike.  However, that's no longer the crucial issue.  The DSM, and the associated info, proves such heinous fraud and malfeasance on the part of Bush and his senior officials -- proves treason against the US, if you ask me -- that it is unconscionable NOT to pruse impeachment proceedings, regardless of whether they will actually pass the House or not.  Crimes of this nature cannot be allowed to pass without some attempt at redress.

      The History Commons needs your participation.

      by Black Max on Mon May 30, 2005 at 09:10:42 AM PDT

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  •  Typo! (none / 0)

    "The new information goes on to indicate that our military decided "on August 5, 2005..."

    2002, eh?

    Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

    by Earl on Sun May 29, 2005 at 10:11:23 AM PDT

    •  Convienently before 1441... (none / 1)

      If 1441 wasn't passed until November, 2002, doesn't this make the whole legal situation EVEN WORSE?!  They didn't even have that to hide behind.

      Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
      I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
      -Spike Milligan

      by polecat on Sun May 29, 2005 at 11:18:43 AM PDT

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  •  Rep. Conyers - Thank you, and a question... (4.00 / 3)

    Rep. Conyers, as usual you are the one leading the charge for us! Thank you very much sir, we sincerely appreciate it. You are doing yeomans work for our nation. And I know Rep. Slaughter is always ready to jump in a good fight too. But if I could ask you: Which of our other Democratic House members, specifically, do you think are making a particularly noteworthy effort at attempting to get to the bottom of the revelations of the Downing Street memo?

    I ask because I would like to be learn what our other members in the Democratic House are doing to shed light on these revelations. Could you direct me to any other Democratic House members speaking to this issue?

  •  What creates a need to respond? (4.00 / 3)


    US administration officials tried to shrug off the letter last week. Scott McClellan, Bush's spokesman, said the White House saw "no need" to respond to an affair that one newspaper dubbed "memogate".

    From the UK Times

    It is unlikely that there will be be self-incrimination in the answers to the questions. What will prevent continuous dodging of this issue?

    Perhaps another question you might wish to add is:

    "What are the White House's criteria for determining whether or not there is a need to respond to a question?".

    It seems to me that one could not avoid answering this question. Even if it is brushed off also, then perhaps it would be worth looking historically at what circumstances force a response.

  •  Unbefrakingleavible!!! (none / 0)

    Thank you AGAIN, Mr. Congressman.

    "America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense, it is the other way around. Human rights invented America." -Jimmy Carter

    by Bulldawg on Sun May 29, 2005 at 10:17:54 AM PDT

  •  No Fly Zones or It's the British, Stupid (none / 0)

    All props to Rep. Conyers.  Keep the heat on.   I signed the petition 2 days ago and am proud to be a part of your effort.

    But my guess is that the Rethugs will be able to hide behind the no-fly zone activity authorized since 1991 and used as a sheild against questions about all of our low-level military activity in Iraq between Gulf I and II.

    Anyone with any input on what the justification may be if it ever does reach the level that BushCo. has to address it publicly?

    This is where I think DKossian's can be most useful, helping to war game how this all might play out.

    I'd be interested to see how far we could string this out vis a vis the following hypothesis:

    MSM starts to run with the Downing Street revelations.

    Hard questions to Scotty follow, which he stonewalls like all the rest with his robotic mantra of denial.

    The questions continue, and Rice or Rummy is forced into the open to do their little vaudeville routines.  

    And then... well, the press loses focus... like usual.

    UNLESS

    There is a steady flow of new information and facts that can make this thing last for longer than a weekly cycle. In fact a  flow of damning evidence so steady as to make this the longest, hottest, most uncomfortable summer ever in Crawford.

    And the best way to do that is to keep going to the well, ie. help and support the only press which is actually doing it's job, ie. the British press.  

    I posit that it could be as important and more effective to start concentrating efforts on helping the British press with their case against Blair.  We know what the adminsitration has their hands on the corporate media throats and that left to our own devices they'll sweep this under the rug, just like everything else.  Go after Blair, he's the weak link right now and he's our best hope of shining more light into more dark places.

  •  Some context: (4.00 / 2)

    The War Before the War
    Michael Smith
    Monday, May 30th, 2005
    New Statesman  (subscription)

    Britain and the US carried out a secret bombing campaign against Iraq months before the tanks went over the border in March 2003. Michael Smith pieces together the evidence

    Page by relentless page, evidence has been stacking up for many months to show that - despite Tony Blair's denials - the British government signed up for war in Iraq almost a year before the invasion. What most people will not have realised until now, however, was that Britain and the US waged a secret war against Iraq for months before the tanks rolled over the border in March 2003. Documentary evidence and ministerial answers in parliament reveal the existence of a clandestine bombing campaign designed largely to provoke Iraq into taking action that could be used to justify the start of the war.

    In the absence of solid legal grounds for war, in other words, the allies tried to bomb Saddam Hussein into providing their casus belli. And when that didn't work they just stepped up the bombing rate, in effect starting the conflict without telling anyone.

    The main evidence lies in leaked documents relating to a crucial meeting chaired by the Prime Minister in July 2002 - the documents which supported the Sunday Times story, published during this past election campaign, about how Blair promised George W Bush in April that year that Britain would back regime change.

    A briefing paper for the ministers and officials at the meeting - this was in effect a British war cabinet - laid out two alternative US war plans. The first, a "generated start", involved a slow build-up of roughly 250,000 troops in Kuwait. Allied aircraft would then mount an air war, which would be followed by a full-scale invasion. The second option was a "running start", in which a continuous air campaign, "initiated by an Iraqi casus belli", would be mounted without any overt military build-up. Allied special forces giving support to Iraqi opposition groups on the ground would be joined by further troops as and when they arrived in theatre, until the regime collapsed. A few days after the meeting, the Americans opted for a hybrid of the two in which the air war would begin, as for a running start, as soon as the Iraqis provided the justification for war, while at the same time an invasion force would be built up, as for a generated start.

    The record of the July meeting in London, however, contains a revealing passage in which Geoff Hoon, then defence secretary, tells his colleagues in plain terms that "the US had already begun 'spikes of activity' to put pressure on the regime". What is meant by "spikes of activity" becomes clear in the light of information elicited from the government by the Liberal Democrat Sir Menzies Campbell, who asked the Ministry of Defence about British and American air activity in 2002 in the southern no-fly zone of Iraq - the zone created to protect southern Shias after Saddam Hussein brutally suppressed their 1991 uprising against him.

    The MoD response shows that in March 2002 no bombs were dropped, and in April only 0.3 tonnes of ordnance used. The figure rose to 7.3 tonnes in May, however, then to 10.4 in June, dipping to 9.5 in July before rising again to 14.1 in August. Suddenly, in other words, US and British air forces were in action over Iraq.

    What was going on? There were very strict rules of engagement in the no-fly zones. The allied pilots were authorised to fire missiles at any Iraqi air defence weapon or radar that fired at them or locked on to their aircraft. As was noted in Foreign Office legal advice appended to the July 2002 briefing paper, they were only "entitled to use force in self-defence where such a use of force is a necessary and proportionate response to actual or imminent attack from Iraqi ground systems".

    That May, however, Donald Rumsfeld had ordered a more aggressive approach, authorising allied aircraft to attack Iraqi command and control centres as well as actual air defences. The US defence secretary later said this was simply to prevent the Iraqis attacking allied aircraft, but Hoon's remark gives the game away. In reality, as he explained, the "spikes of activity" were designed "to put pressure on the regime".

    What happened next was dramatic. In September, the amount of ordnance used in the southern no-fly zone increased sharply to 54.6 tonnes. It declined in October to 17.7 tonnes before rising again to 33.6 tonnes in November and 53.2 tonnes in December. The spikes were getting taller and taller.

    In fact, as it became clear that Saddam Hussein would not provide them with the justification they needed to launch the air war, we can see that the allies simply launched it anyway, beneath the cloak of the no-fly zone.

    In the early hours of 5 September, for example, more than a hundred allied aircraft attacked the H-3 airfield, the main air defence site in western Iraq. Located at the furthest extreme of the southern no-fly zone, far away from the areas that needed to be patrolled to prevent attacks on the Shias, it was destroyed not because it was a threat to the patrols, but to allow allied special forces operating from Jordan to enter Iraq undetected.

    It would be another nine weeks before Blair and Bush went to the UN to try to persuade it to authorise military action, but the air war had begun anyway. The number of raids shot up, from four a month to 30, with allied aircraft repeatedly returning to sites they had already hit to finish them off. Senior British officials insist that no RAF aircraft opened fire until it was at least locked on to by an Iraqi radar, but it is difficult to see how the systematic targeting of Iraqi installations could have constituted "a necessary and proportionate response". The story of the secret air war dovetails neatly with the other evidence from the leaked documents, further demonstrating why, even after the general election, Blair's efforts to dispel the allegations about the background to war and get the country to "move on" seem doomed to fail.

    It was the briefing paper for the July meeting which stated categorically that "when the Prime Minister discussed Iraq with President Bush at Crawford in April [2002], he said that the UK would support military action to bring about regime change".

    The same document also stated bluntly that "regime change per se is not a proper basis for military action under international law" and it was therefore "necessary to create the conditions in which we could legally support military action".

    America had none of these problems. It was Washington's view that it could decide for itself whether Saddam was in breach of his obligations to let in weapons inspectors. With British officials holding Blair back, insisting that without UN backing an invasion would be illegal, it would have been extremely convenient for Bush and Rumsfeld if Saddam had retaliated against the bombing offensive, thus giving London and Washington the chance to cry, "He started it!"

    The leaked British documents have now found their way into the US political debate. The White House has declined to respond to a letter from 89 US congressmen asking Bush when he and Blair agreed to invade Iraq. The congressmen are now talking about sending a delegation to Britain to try to find out the truth, although heaven alone knows why they think they will get any more change from Blair than they did from Bush. Their concerns are none the less grave ones, for the leaked documents are as damaging to Bush as they are to Blair.

    Under the US constitution, only Congress has the power to authorise war, and it did not do so until 11 October. Any military ac-tion to oust Saddam before that point would constitute a serious abuse of power by the president. But there is no reason to suppose that bothered Mr Bush.


     
    •  Hmmm... (none / 0)

      2002

      March-      no bombs
      April-       .3 tons
      May-        7.3 tons
      June-      10.4 tons
      July-       9.5 tons
      August-    14.1 tons
      Septeber-  54.6 tons  
      October-   17.7 tons
      November-  33.6 tons
      December-  53.2 tons

      •  One more dated wanted (4.00 / 2)

        Diaried yesterday about the performance awards for the so-called military analysts who worked on the aluminum tubes (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/5/28/184452/747).

        When were those awards requested?  July 2002?

        Who requested those awards?  Who approved them?

        Want to bet the timing coordinates with this timeline for bombing campaign, as well as the Downing Street dossier?

        •  Rayne... run with this! (none / 0)

          Excellent points, and would be great fuel to keep the fire going. Hope to see you and other Kossacks research this... (I have my hands full with our part alas).
          •  I did a google-run (none / 0)

            on George Norris and Robert Campos- absolutely NOTHING came up.  It's like these guys are completely off the grid.

            I went in search of the date of these awards and there's nothing posted.

            Any ideas?

            •  I myself don't have any... (none / 0)

              ... I am hoping you, Rayne, and others will dig into this... it looks promising and would be another devastating punch in our effort. Go for it.
              •  Hands full already (none / 0)

                Been working on ePluribus Media story, can't take the time to do this one.

                But I think I'd be hampered anyhow; this might be a request that Rep. Conyers' office could initiate with the Pentagon.  

                Rep. Conyers?

            •  Pure speculation here but... (none / 0)

              remember how one of the NSA intercepts John Bolton requested and that was seen by Roberts and Rockerfeller (with the analysts names redacted) was allegedly used by Bolton in order that he could congratulate and thank the analyst? Wonder if the WaPo story naming these analysts "rewards" connects to Bolton at all? Hmmmmmmm anyway, interesting timing of both stories, but might just be a coincidence.
              •  can you post a link to that story? (none / 0)


                I'd be interested to read it for myself.
                •  here ya go... (none / 0)

                  link to WaPo article:
                  Two Army analysts whose work has been connected to a major intelligence shortcoming on Iraq have received awards for job performance over the last few years, according to officials.
                  ...
                  The commission deemed their agency's assessment of the aluminum tubes as a "gross failure." The agency was "completely wrong," the panel said, when it judged in September 2002 that the tubes Iraq was purchasing were "highly unlikely" to be used for rocket motor cases because of their "material and tolerances."

                  The panel found that aluminum tubes with similar tolerances were used in a previous Iraqi rocket, the Nasser 81, and that the International Atomic Energy Agency had published details about the system in 1996, as did the Energy Department in 2001.

                  The panel's report said "the two primary NGIC rocket analysts said they did not know the dimensions" of the older Nasser 81 rocket and were unaware of the IAEA and Energy Department reports. The report did not name the analysts, but officials told The Post that the panel was referring to George Norris and Robert Campos.


                  Article doesn't mention Bolton, but hey, with these clowns, anything is possible.

                  There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. --Benjamin Disraeli, cited by Mark Twain

                  by sheba on Sun May 29, 2005 at 07:29:35 PM PDT

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        •  $20,000 bonus to official who agreed on nuke claim (none / 1)

          Energy Dept. honcho ordered dissenters at Iraq pre-briefing to 'shut up, sit down'
          Posted: August 12, 2003
          1:00 a.m. Eastern

          By Paul Sperry
          © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

          WASHINGTON - A former Energy Department intelligence chief who agreed with the White House claim that Iraq had reconstituted its defunct nuclear-arms program was awarded a total of $20,500 in bonuses during the build-up to the war, WorldNetDaily has learned.

          Thomas Ryder, as acting director of Energy's intelligence office, overruled senior intelligence officers on his staff in voting for the position at a National Foreign Intelligence Board meeting at CIA headquarters last September.

          His officers argued at a pre-briefing at Energy headquarters that there was no hard evidence to support the alarming Iraq nuclear charge, and asked to join State Department's dissenting opinion, Energy officials say.

          Ryder ordered them to "shut up and sit down," according to sources familiar with the meeting.

          As a result, State was the intelligence community's lone dissenter in the key National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, something the Bush administration is quick to remind critics of its prewar intelligence. So far no banned weapons have been found in Iraq to confirm its charges.

          The secret 90-page report, prepared Oct. 1, was rushed to sway members of Congress ahead of a key vote on granting the White House war-making authority. It also formed the underlying evidence for the White House's decision to go to war.

          Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham gave Ryder a $13,000 performance bonus after the NIE report was released and just before the war, department sources say. He had received an additional $7,500 before the report.

          "That's a hell of a lot of money for an intelligence director who had no experience or background in intelligence, and who'd only been running the office for nine months," said one source who requested anonymity. "Something's fishy."

          Ryder declined to talk about the payments.

          [...]

      •  Where? (none / 0)

        Where did you get these numbers?

        A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. -Edward R. Murrow

        by nutmeg on Sun May 29, 2005 at 09:18:47 PM PDT

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  •  This is going to require a massive publicity stunt (none / 1)

    How about this:

    When you get enough signatures to deliver this letter to the white house

    1. ask some of the other congressmen that signed on to your letter to join you.

    2. give the blog world two week's notice (by using the email list gathered through the signatures, and by posting diaries) and we will also join you

    3. lead a march to the white house and hold a press conference on arrival to our destination

    4. camp out on pennsylvania ave. until a high level official comes out to receive the letter.

    The Bill of Rights, and not the Ten Commandments, is what should be displayed on the front of our federal buildings

    by chinkoPelinke on Sun May 29, 2005 at 10:25:12 AM PDT

    •  I have a suggestion which I diaried (none / 0)

      I think the day the signatures are presented, there should be a massive email/phone call drive to major media outlets and a day-long boycott of those outlets and their sponsors.  Let's wield some of that grassroots energy.  Link.
      •  Taking it to the street (4.00 / 4)

        We should have been in the streets on November 3rd.

        We should organize rallies around this news now.

        It worked in the 60's and 70's, both against the war and against a president who overstepped his powers.  Large enough, frequent enough, widespread enough and the rallies make the news.

        PFAW had us wired and ready for smart mob action against the nuclear option; maybe they could mobilize us for a nationwide rally?

        We can do it, people.

        •  I think we can, too (none / 0)

          But Conyers' letter can very well have enough signatures to be re-delivered to Bush within the next few weeks, if not this week.  Not enough time to organize a physical protest in DC.  But plenty of time to organize a virtual protest conducted via emails, phone calls, and boycott of the news sources and their sponsors who refused to cover the Downing Street minutes.

          We need to deliver a real punch alongside Conyers' signed letter, and a message to those Congresspeople who might be too timid to take action: the grassroots has your back if you are doing the right thing.

        •  People have begun this... (none / 0)

          ... as outlined in ukiyo's diary from yesterday, Taking 'Downing' to the Street. Go look, there are photos, and an alert for anyone in the Tampa area to join in another protest this Thursday in front of the local Fox affiliate.

          This is what it is all about... what we have been building towards.

      •  the media isn't going to cover a boycott (none / 1)

        its not going to cover emails to the white house, we need people on the streets, if conyers has the courage to put his political career on the line and expose himself to attacks from the right wing noise machine, then we should ask nothing less of ourselves.

        we are the citizens damn it, and it's time we start taking some fucking action.

        The Bill of Rights, and not the Ten Commandments, is what should be displayed on the front of our federal buildings

        by chinkoPelinke on Sun May 29, 2005 at 11:29:38 AM PDT

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        •  I'm talking logistics here (none / 1)

          massive street demonstrations take months to plan, not days, and the media tends to turn a blind eye to them also.

          With respect to the Conyers' letter, we need to do what we can to have his back, even if all of us cannot manage to get to Washington in the space of a week.  That includes emails and boycotts.  I stand by my suggestion.  Several thousand emails, and notable decreases in circulation occurring on the SAME DAY Conyers delivers his letter to Bush is an easily doable plan which won't be defeated by lack of time to coordinate it, as a march would.

          We most certainly need another march on Washington; yours and my suggestions are not mutually exclusive.  However, given the timeframe that we have before Conyers delivers the signature to Bush, organizing the massive emails and a boycott is much more feasible and much more likely to draw in larger numbers of participants.

          •  i agree, anything helps (none / 1)

            people have different ways of making their veiws know, but we need a way to inform those that dont know.

            The Bill of Rights, and not the Ten Commandments, is what should be displayed on the front of our federal buildings

            by chinkoPelinke on Sun May 29, 2005 at 03:24:45 PM PDT

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          •  i believe (4.00 / 2)

            he plans to deliver it tuesday.  

            whatever happens with it, it should be caught on video - i know dembloggers would be glad to host it.

            "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

            by Cedwyn on Sun May 29, 2005 at 08:36:42 PM PDT

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  •  Congressman Conyers, (none / 0)

    I'm having a moment: I can't adequately express my gratitude that you are demanding accountability from the Bush Administration (aka the Bush Crime Family).  I know it can't be easy in this climate of intimidation, paranoia, and extensive corruption.  Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    That said, it is pretty much indisputable that the Iraq war is an internationally illegal act of aggression against a sovereign nation.  

    Note: I posted a diary urging you and two other Kossacks to combine your efforts in this regard.  My fantasy: the day you present the signatures to Bush, emails and phone calls flood news outlets and a day-long progressive boycott of  those outlets and their sponsors occurs at the same time.

  •  i love you even more (none / 0)

    than i did before
  •  I did *hear* this story on the news (4.00 / 4)

    I just can't remember what I was listening to at the time.  I think it was NPR.  

    I think I've reached the point where reports about these kind of actions taking place before the war, don't surprise me much anymore. Not that I don't think they are important, but I didn't trust what the Administration was saying before the war and, so the uncovering of the systematic lying, manipulation of intelligence and tricks are more validation for me than revalation.

    What does continually surprise me is the hubris with which this Administration just brushes off the reports or is totally mute with an answer to them and what seems to be the total apathy of most of the MSM to give it the attention it deserves.  The excuses that this is old news or that the American public isn't interested in it (not sexy enough) are weak at best and smell suspiciously like media manipulation at worst.

    Congressman, I admire you for continuing this fight.  Thank you for your fortitude and the trust with which you open your cause up to us.

    Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan

    by Maggie Mae on Sun May 29, 2005 at 10:43:40 AM PDT

    •  Yes (none / 0)

      Yes, Alice now there are excursions over the Iran border.  Seems like a pattern, doesn't it?  

      Have to admire their conviction to carry out the Project of a New American Century.

      Shrub: What ever will we do today?  
      Cheney: Same thing we do everyday...TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD! {evil laugh}