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The War on Science, and Scientists

Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:10:13 PM PDT

As many of you know, I am a scientist. I have a PhD in Geology and a lot of experience in both academia and industry.

We rely on science - academic and industrial - to make the things we use, to understand the world we live in so that we can survive as a culture and as a species.

The decisions we make as a culture have results that are often contingent upon our grasp of reality - real data, real facts, real results.

The following article at Chris Mooney's web site should be ringing even more alarm bells than are already ringing.

Industry can often be ugly, and the profit motive makes for some serously poisonous history and behavior...but at root, making money requires recognizing reality...hence the recent spate of articles from industry regarding global warming, peak oil, chemical pollution and so on. Not universal, not particularly heartfelt or sincere...but it is happening, and companies are trying to get the "Green" label on their activities for a damned good reason.

Academia can also often be ugly - puerile, immature, selfish, self-aggrandizing, hiding motives and methods in high-minded rhetoric while squelching new ideas and maintaining a medieval guild-like system of apprenticeships, sexism, and old-boys clubs. But academia, unfettered "pure" science, forms the theoretical and practical basis for nearly every scientific advancement, from the internet, to GPS, to superconductors, to new medicines, to new understandings of how the world and the universe works.

Now, we are under direct attack on a number of cultural fronts...and there is a new front opening - direct government attacks on scientists who do "inconvenient" research.

Michael Mann is a world-renowned climatologist. His data and methods have expanded our abilities to

  1. Gather and interpret climate proxy data all over the globe
  2. Extend the available data set back in time for purposes of calibrating models and testing hindcasting climate predictions
  3. Explain and explore new hypotheses regarding the ocean-climate-continent heat/water/air circulation system
  4. Understand carbon (and other nutrient and element) cycles through time, and corellate with ice and sediment cores in remote regions.

His "Hockey Stick" paper represented a massive advancement of our understanding of the climate record and provided a series of new tools, tests, hypotheses and predictions in the climate sciences.

As such, that paper became the target of a large number of sophisticated and idiotic attacks, ranging from the moronic Wall Street Journal attempt, to the much more well-couched but still libelous and dishonest works of McIntyre and McKitrick (whom I will not link to, but can be found in the above-linked essays, rebuttals and articles).

Not just Michael Mann, but an entire spectrum of scientists have contributed to a long-term, large-scale, complex and growing understanding of how our climate works, what dangers we face, how we are exacerbating those dangers, and what we can do about those problems.

Now, Joe Barton Republican Chair of the House Committe on Energy and Commerce is threatening Mann, and the entire scientific community, by sending Letters (PDF) requesting extremely detailed, time consuming, intrusive, invasive and chilling amounts of information regarding Mann's (and many others') history, funding, methods, publications, and everything else under the sun.

Barton is using the Wall Street Journal editorial as basis and justification for his actions - a letter that has been roundly, soundly, and directly debunked by Mann and others at RealClimate, and is, anyway, based on the idiotic and uninformed rantings of a writer (or ghostwriter) who is dredging up large amounts of already debunked and addressed criticisms.

This amounts to nothing less than an attempt to quell, quash, silence, and shackle scientists by threatening them directly, impugning their reputations, and hampering their research by burying them in governmental paperwork and bureaucratic procedural garbage.

The war on science is ramping up.

I urge you to come to our defense.

Help us, help science.

Modern science makes everything you use, and our discipline forms the basis for survival of our species on this planet.

Write Letters to the committee.

Join and contribute to The Union of Concerned Scientists.

Write letters to the editor.

Go to Real Climate and register your support.

Whatever.

Thanks.

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  •  Climategate (4.00 / 3)

    The Bush administration oozes corruption, but to corrupt science is to corrupt reality itself. It's über corruption.
    •  Absolutely correct. (none / 1)

      After the fact editing and excision of scientific reports.

      Hounding and firing of government scientists for not toeing the line.

      Dumping and refusal to publish "inconvenient" facts and results.

      Defunding and scrapping of crucial programs.

      Budget cuts, department gutting, sneering anti-intellectualism.

      These folks got it ALL going on.

      The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

      by RedDan on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:23:10 PM PDT

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      •  We are on the road to Totalitarianism.. (4.00 / 2)

        Whatever you want to call them, narcissists, absolutists, fascists, it doesnt matter..

        Basically, they are the people who had terrible stress in childhood, and it ruined their capacity to feel. Now, they hate the world, especially those of us who don't see everything on a six year old's emotional level like they do..

        But for now, lets call them 'absolutists'

        Absolutists feel threatened by anything they cannot control. Science, for several reasons, is one of those things.

        Scientists use a standard - the scientific process, to define what is true and what is false.. absolutists beleive might makes right (or they will beat it into you)

        Scientists are a global community. They communicate across international borders and because of that, they are naturally resistant to the typical absolutist methods of control..

        (see the paper on totalism and group dynamics linked here or the [more general information on cults here)

        But basically, it all comes down to this.. The GOP is controlled by abusive personalities.. They have done a lot of bad things, and they know it, but they have managed to keep much of this hidden from the general public..  The implications - health, economic, moral, scientific, etc. of their policies are many, after all they are looting America and stealing the futures of Americans.. However, they are very skillful liars.. They hate and fear scientists because scientists are natural skeptics and naturally pragmatic.. This threatens their hidden agenda (total control, and ultimately, totalitarianism and global domination) tremendously..

        Call me a nut, but if you think about it its true..

        •  I won't call you a nut. (none / 1)

          I think the links between insanity, abusive personalities, repressed emotions, deep psychosis and wierd personality traits/perversions are very strong.

          Look at the Nazis - they were fucking wierd beyond belief...and they did the same kind of shit that these goons are trying.

          The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

          by RedDan on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:54:45 PM PDT

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        •  Read about the Nazis here (none / 1)

          http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/imt.htm

          Especially "Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression"

          It contains a very large number of documents about how fascist movements insinuate themselves into power..

          Don't expect them to play by the rules.. they pervert them..

          They are the definition of evil.. don't underestimate them!

          Hannah Arent's "The Origins of Totalitarianism" is also a must read..

          Read Chapt. 12 about the totalitarian state's construction of a parallel, secret government, and think.. could that be happening here?

  •  I had no idea (none / 1)

    You held a PhD in Geology, I always figured you for a writer.

    But we all know that science is under attack. That cannot stand. I'll use these tools to do my part.

    Highly recommended.

    Time flies, whether you're having fun or not.

    by Kimberley on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:16:40 PM PDT

    •  Well...thanks! (none / 1)

      I spent a while in both literature and history before hitting the Geology.

      And I have to write for science too...

      The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

      by RedDan on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:23:53 PM PDT

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      •  You're welcome (none / 1)

        The trilogy of interests explains a lot about your booming clarity as a writer. I envy you being able to draw on such a broad base of knowledge.

        Liberalism is taking a beating that's hard to watch. But I hope we can save science, at least, from the onslaught of anti-intellectualism/rationalism sweeping the nation.

        You know, I rarely get a chance to just say, "Hello" and wish you and yours well. It's good to see you around again so I have a chance to say it now.

        Time flies, whether you're having fun or not.

        by Kimberley on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:49:30 PM PDT

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        •  Well gee! (none / 0)

          "Booming clarity" - I like that....blushing!

          At the least we need to preserve what we know and how we arrived at that knowledge.

          If things get really dire, the anti-science goons will suffer the collapse that will result from their actions...and we'll have to pick up the pieces...again.

          Ever read "The Marching Morons" by Kornbluh?

          The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

          by RedDan on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:52:19 PM PDT

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          •  Read it? (4.00 / 3)

            I'm living in it.

            I kid. No I haven't read it, but if you think it will help shed some light on this surreal situation we find ourselves in, I'll make a point of it.

            Seriously, I'm starting to feel like I lost my mind somewhere along the way. It's like I'm living in a society that Salvador Dali built at Stalin's command. It's making me ill.

            Time flies, whether you're having fun or not.

            by Kimberley on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 12:12:58 AM PDT

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  •  if you ask me (4.00 / 3)

    That's one of the worst things that has happened during this administration. They've somehow made scientific fact and the scientific method something that's open to debate, and I wonder if that won't be one of their major legacies right up there with the economy and the war in Iraq.

    I read the Barton thing earlier today and had the urge to hurt someone.

    really important diary...highly recommended

    I want to win. You want to beat him, and that's a problem for me, because I want to win. -The West Wing

    by AnnArborBlue on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:18:10 PM PDT

  •  Recommended. (4.00 / 2)

    Let's get this on the RD list so it isn't lost in a diary avalanche in the a.m.

    Important topic.  I wonder if we might have some success painting the administration as "not believable" when it attacks science, in the same way that public opinion is turning away from the war, and turning away from believing the administration about it.

    Why, no ... I'm not voting for John McCain.

    by by foot on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:20:04 PM PDT

    •  I think that there are some strategies to do this: (4.00 / 2)

      For example:

      "Your faith is your own, and I respect your faith, but I would ask you this: can you find oil, gas, metals, minerals with the bible and the bible alone? Can you invent new medicines or new surgical tools or new procedures with your bible and your bible alone?"

      Or something like that.

      The FACT is that if Evolutionary theory, Tectonic theory, Quantum theory, the Age of the Universe and etc were not DAMNED CLOSE to being CORRECT, we would not be able to do transplants, make medicines from plants, make medicines from exotic animals (like horseshoe crabs, for instance), use satellites for communications, media, or location, do ballistics for all those cool missiles we drop on brown people, find the resources we need to keep our billions alive, use satellites and modern methods for sustainable farming, develop and perfect new alternative fuels or energy sources, make computers or computer chips....or really much of anything people take for granted.

      have we become a massive cargo cult?

      The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

      by RedDan on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:29:23 PM PDT

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      •  I often think the same thing ... (4.00 / 2)

        "Sure, go ahead and believe that all the oil & metals were just left here for us to find ... but don't then deny the utility of stratigraphic superposition, radioisotope dating, invertebrate paleontology, etc. in finding it all."

        Why, no ... I'm not voting for John McCain.

        by by foot on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:40:26 PM PDT

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        •  I should point out that ... (4.00 / 2)

          I don't intend to deny anyone their faith, either.  Hell, I've got some myself to some extent.

          Why, no ... I'm not voting for John McCain.

          by by foot on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:42:26 PM PDT

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          •  I, personally, (4.00 / 2)

            am a hard atheist.

            I think there is no god, I think that when we die we rot, and that the universe is most like one of a number of multiverses...

            HOWEVER...I have great and deep respect for faith and the various books that constitute the basis for the many faiths.

            I think that those books constitute the very first attempts at understanding the root questions "Why, How, When" and that as such, constitute the "First Questions"...

            It is no accident that so many of the earliest and greatest scientists and investigators were members of churches (of various sorts)...

            The first attempt to answer ANY question will most often (like 99.9999% of the time) be WRONG...but being WRONG is very, very important.

            Asking a question, providing an answer that can be checked, and repeating that process (cultural form of Newton's method???) is the way that we traveled the path from "Thunder God" to "Static charges developed by the collision of air masses with different temperature and humidity"...

            The problem comes when the "First Question" is codified into dogma and no further questions are allowed for political, power, control reasons.

            The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

            by RedDan on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 12:01:46 AM PDT

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            •  My own take ... (none / 0)

              The "afterlife" that is sold in most versions of the modern Abrahamic religions is not a concept I can embrace.  When I die, I most certainly hope to rot ... and I hope by that time I'll be able to arrange for composting rather than burial or cremation.  My sense of things is that "eternal life" consists of the ongoing connections and subtle influences my existence and choices may have had on the great stream of life -- and therefore why making wise choices in life is so important (not because I'll be a sinner in the hands of an angry God, to paraphrase an early American colonial religious guy).

              Why, no ... I'm not voting for John McCain.

              by by foot on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 05:56:23 AM PDT

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        •  There's a fundamental (none / 1)

          disconnect happening.

          Many people have no idea that nearly every single object they touch, use, consume, wear, drive, fly, watch....is based on development that required basic theoretical scientific understanding.

          Those "Theories" did not come out of nowhere...and the "theories" that are now poorly remembered arguments of yesteryear got discarded for very good reason....

          Science works!

          Science that does NOT work...gets dropped.

          The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

          by RedDan on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:50:24 PM PDT

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  •  You can tip me if you want. (4.00 / 7)

    I really don't care...I would rather you wrote, joined, made a stink, and etc...recommend the diary if you feel this deserves wider reading and recognition.

    Scientists (not me!) often try to stay out of politics for fear of appearing biased.

    That has to stop, and stop now.

    We are trying, as RealClimate and several other websites and organizations attest...help us, please.

    The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

    by RedDan on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:21:26 PM PDT

  •  Did, or will, the WSJ print a rebuttal (none / 1)

    to the editorial?

    I joined the UCS.  Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

    Small varmints, if you will.

    by 2lucky on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:22:20 PM PDT

  •  the Cold Earth Society (4.00 / 2)

    has unfortunately a membership larger than the Young Earth Society and the Flat Earth Society combined!

    This kind of denial seems like it must fall of its own sorry weight, and kind of boomarang against the obscurantists, like the Schiavo thing.  But you're right we can't just sit around waiting for the light to break forth.

    Because this carbon factor is messing with the jet stream we get almost as much unseasonably cold weather now in the temperate zones as we get warm weather, and this prevents great swathes of the population from seeing the problem.

    Maybe if the general problem were popularized as "polar warming" instead of "global warming" we could maintain the urgency while taking out the armchair scientists who believe the science is refuted by one cold spring or summer in their particular neck of the woods.

    Thanks for the links.  And Recommended.

    Be all that you can be: Work for peace - - Jesus (Mt.5:9)

    by Upstream Review on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:50:49 PM PDT

    •  The fundamental (none / 1)

      difference and disconnect between Climate and Weather remains a serious stumbling block to understanding...it is one that scientists have failed to explain well, and one that is being cleverly manipulated by the propagandists of the Right.

      The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

      by RedDan on Mon Jun 27, 2005 at 11:56:32 PM PDT

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  •  Before long, evolution? (none / 1)

    I wonder how long it will be before any research involving evolution loses funding. That would put a lot of us out of work. I supposed that the DOE and NIH would save us, but even at the NIH, they've started intramural prayer groups onsite. Immediately upon arrival, Bush & Co. started cutting funding for any AIDS research that mentioned certain keywords like "homosexual". I don't think evolution is too far behind on the target list.

    My teeth aren't white enough for DailyKos, so adios.

    by DrReason on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 01:29:18 AM PDT

    •  Evolution is already in the (none / 1)

      target sights, and is under direct attack on a number of fronts.

      Moreover, Astronomy, Cosmology, and some aspects of Chemistry (particularly those aspects related to age dating of the earth and minerals) are coming under increasing budgetary, cultural, and rhetorical/propaganda attack.

      Astronomy and Cosmology because they directly contradict the Genesis literalists (never mind GPS, Satellite comms, and etc), and Chemistry because it is hard evidence for the age of the earth, solar system and lower age limit of the universe, again in contradiction to the Genesis literalists.

      Furthermore, space exploration, specifically the emerging field of Exobiology (water and possible life on mars, looking for the signature of biological activity on the Saturnian and Jovian moons, looking for IR and UV spectra or Radio wave evidence for life outside the solar system) are under attack because they are looking for evidence of non-uniqueness...again in contravention of the Genesis literalists.

      Make no mistake, no discipline will escape the treatment.

      The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

      by RedDan on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 01:43:53 AM PDT

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      •  You becha (none / 0)

        Significant cuts in the research budgets at NASA and NOAA were made and our reputation as the leading country in science research is permanently damaged. I'd daresay a permanent realignment of scientists towards the Democratic party has happened as normally "country club Republican" type scientists have reacted with horror to the politicization of science.

        Who knows, we may even see industry types get off the sidelines and take a stand on this as they depend upon government research to feed off of.

        •  The new Lysenkoism... (none / 0)

          Look it up, Stalin's hatred of the idea of evolution led to his embracing of an idiots theories, which ended up killing millions..

          Lysenko offered 'shortcuts' that seemed attractive, but his theories turned out to be garbage, but under the centralized CONTROL of the STATE, bureaucrats who challenged the policies were afraid to speak up, instead, they falsified information, saying that harvests were good, when they were actually terrible..

          This ended up killing millions in China during the 'great leap forward'. Read Jasper Becker's 'Hungry Ghosts' for the best description of Lysenkoism I've seen to date..

          There is also a good book out called 'Totalitarian Science' - I forget the authors name, but he describes exactly what is happening here now..

          Science and natural processes are NOT amenable to political control..

          For example, when Stalin declared unemplyment to have been ended, it was not over. All that meant is that all the news media were forbidden to mention it, and that nobody was permitted to complain about it, or that they would be sent to the gulag and never mentioned again, if they were some important person, they would be removed from the history books, etc.

          What the right is thrusting down our tired throats is the worst kind of political and religious orthodoxy.. Straight out of Stalin's Russia, Maos China, today's North Korea (just look at the incredibly repressive way they rewrite history and control outside information.. see Andrei Lankov's papers at northkorea.narod.ru for the best description of that - for a glimpse at a worst case scenario)

          ALL totalitarian governments try to control all outside information.. EVERYTHING becomes political..

          This happened all through the 50s and the 60s.. look at the FBIs harassment of ANTHROPOLOGISTS!

          •  Painfully all too aware (none / 0)

            I'm not a scientist but my employer is up to their eyeballs in this issue and I suspect is being victimized for not "being a team player" in the current administration -- this despite the fact that we're supposed to be independent and impartial. We've had a century-plus reputation of advising both Democratic and Republican presidents -- this is really the first administration that has been so distainful of us.

            I can't tell you how heartening it was to see all the scientists coming out of the woodwork yesterday as Kossacks.  Gives me hope that maybe we can hang on until there's regime change.

  •  Perhaps the only real long term solution: (none / 0)

    Evacuation en-mass.  Rather than fight a battle you're doomed to lose, do what out ancestors did and move to a country where scientific freedom is respected.  Leave the idiots to rot.

    We have no desire to offend you -- unless you are a twit!

    by ScrewySquirrel on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 03:10:43 AM PDT

    •  Bullshit... (none / 0)

      you don't run because the fight is going against you, you fight smarter.

      These people don't care if dissenters leave, and probably prefer that they do.  This is my country too, and I'm not leaving it in the hands of these rat bastards any longer than can be prevented.

      There has to be a better effort, at which Dean is doing a great job, of confronting all the blustering mouth noises flowing from the hysterical right and showing them for the trash that they are.

      That means using what they say against them and never letting up. I believe that we are witnessing the beginning cracks in the GOP facade. As Dub's numbers drop, the rats run from the sinking ship, and as things get worse (Afghanistan, anyone?) they'll run faster.  We should encourage this.

      "Kiss my shiny metal ass. And FTFY" - Bender

      by seronimous on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 06:10:27 AM PDT

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      •  Bush is just a figurehead.. (none / 0)

        You don't seriously believe that he is running anything do you?

        Ha ha...

        Dean? Democratic Party?

        In your dreams...sad to say...

        •  Actually, I didn't mean to say that its hopeless.. (none / 0)

          But we HAVE to expose the SHAM for what it is, and not continue the lie...

          That means realizing that the GOP and the Dems are both fakes.. and either building a new REAL 'Democratic Party' or starting fresh with something new..

          I think either Edwards or Hillary Clinton would be tough enough to stand up and make that work, but Kerry (and perhaps Dean) would not.. Their big selling point was that they represent a 'lite' brand of democracy.. Not the kind that actually does anything significant to deal with healthcare, permanently disappearing jobs, the environment, energy, the US losing the technology vanguard, commoditization and dumbing down of skilled professions, domestic and global poverty, etc.

          •  Are you saying... (none / 0)

            that Edwards and Hillary are "Dem Lite" or Kerry and Dean are?  I dunno, but from the noises that Hillary has been making with the DLC and their sponsors puts her outta my book, and Edwards has been quiet lately...too quiet.

            As for Dean, He's already going around and offering money and assistance to the local democrat organizations (such as they are), which is more than anything the DNC/DLC and associated sycophants have done for the last 12 years...

            I think you might want to take a look at what Dean's doing to rebuild the Dems from the ashes of the old...

            "Kiss my shiny metal ass. And FTFY" - Bender

            by seronimous on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 03:18:35 AM PDT

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            •  That's probably the best (none / 0)

              and longest lasting contribution to rebuilding the Democratic Party that Dean can and will make - rebuilding the state parties.

              What can we do to assist, both within and without the party infrastructure?

              I say that we can

              1. Bolster unions, encourage union growth, join or form unions, and rebuild basic working class unity and consciousness on the model of the old CIO.

              2. Work the media, either by pressuring and pestering from without, or by buying up and buying out media outlets of any kind, everywhere.

              The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

              by RedDan on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 03:42:21 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, that is really the only solution.. (none / 0)

      Because the people who are doing this are very powerful.. they have controlled this country for so long.. (the democracy we see is an elaborate cover up - our much vaunted 'equality' a sham) that they would rather it be destroyed than let us all share.

      That was just a BigLie(TM). Not to be listened to seriously...

      I would suggest someplace in the Southern Hemisphere, in case of nuclear war..

      But not South America, it has even more Nazis there than here.. (yes, I do mean that..call me a nut if you want, but its a matter of historical fact, and the neoNazis have worked with the CIA much more than most want to know..)

      New Zealand?

  •  RedDan, thanks for bringing this forward (none / 0)

    As a scientist, I appreciate your posting of this information a great deal. This attack extends to almost every type of research, whether in a bench science, social science, or in applications of science seen in policy research and program evaluation.

    On the other hand, research that leads to marketable products seems to get quite a bit of positive attention, even when done in a less than rigorous fashion. That, too, is an attack on science.

    We do have one excellent defender in government:  Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA)

     If you haven't mentioned it elsewhere (I'm reading quickly after a long day's work), I strongly Rep. Waxman's website Politics & Science.  

    http://democrats.reform.house.gov/features/politics_and_science/index.htm

    It details most of the attacks that are being made against science in the Bush administration. Rep. Waxman has been and continues to be an outstanding voice in Congress on this issue, helping publicize and guard science from further incursions by the Bush administration.

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