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MEDIA MATTERS: Cavuto asked Canadian attorney Patrice Brunet:"[H]ow would the people of Canada feel if an American artist devoted an entire record to telling the world what a bad place Canada is?" Brunet replied: "[P]eople, they laugh at Canadians all the time, so we're used to it. It's -- I guess it's your turn on this one." But Cavuto didn't mention that Canada has already had its "turn" to be publicly criticized by an American "Neil" -- Cavuto himself.
O.K.  Maybe not yet.  But for God sakes -- start learning the following lyrics!!!  It's Bushco.'s funeral song, afterall.



Impeach the President

by Neil Young.

Let's impeach the president for lying
And leading our country into war
Abusing all the power that we gave him
And shipping all our money out the door
He's the man who hired all the criminals
The White House shadows who hide behind closed doors
And bend the facts to fit with their new stories
Of why we have to send our men to war
Let's impeach the president for spying
On citizens inside their own homes
Breaking every law in the country
By tapping our computers and telephones
What if Al Qaeda blew up the levees
Would New Orleans have been safer that way
Sheltered by our government's protection
Or was someone just not home that day?
Let's impeach the president
For hijacking our religion and using it to get elected
Dividing our country into colors
And still leaving black people neglected
Thank god he's racking down on steroids
Since he sold his old baseball team
There's lot of people looking at big trouble
But of course the president is clean
Thank God  

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  •  I'm not too hip. . . (4+ / 0-)

    . . . but I'm pretty sure neither of those guys in the picture is Neil Young.

    Is America finally suffering from Idiot Fatigue?

    by LarryInNYC on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:28:20 PM PDT

  •  thanks for the link! (0+ / 0-)

    I've been looking forward to hearing the great new album.

    And it's all the sweeter knowing that Mr. Young had strayed over into rethug territory for a while.

    peace

    •  Sorry, Neil Young is a bit of a dumbass (8+ / 2-)

      However, that one electro-ish album "Trans" has a few good cuts on it though.
      Hey, I was rasied on punk rock...where dissing boring classic rockers is par for the course. So if I can deal with a lifetime of shit baby boomer, Mr Keaton crap "classics" continuously shoved down my throat, y'all can deal with my post.
      I'm sorry, but any famous, well world traveled musician, with the time, experience & resource Neil Young has had & to have locked stepped with dubya only up until recently, is a fucking dumbass.
      There are alot better protest songs out there, from better sources.
      Better late than never Neil but Jesus FUCKING christ!

      Here's some food for thought,

      "Indeed, in the aftermath of the al-Qa'ida attacks on the US of 11 September 2001, it seemed that Young had taken the side with the President and supported the steps he was taking in the so-called "war on terror". He wrote a song called, "Let's Roll"
      He announced his support for the Patriot Act. The Act, which gave law-enforcement bodies a whole range of new powers, was condemned by many campaigners as an assault on civil liberties. Young said at the time he thought the legislation was necessary.

      Speaking at an awards banquet in Hollywood where he had received the Spirit of Liberty award by the liberal campaign group People for the American Way, Young announced: "To protect our freedoms it seems we're going to have to relinquish some of our freedoms for a short period of time."
      Here's the link:
      http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/...

      "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

      by astronautagogo on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 07:16:05 PM PDT

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      •  Don't be sorry. (0+ / 0-)

        That's your opinion.

        "A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're dead." - L. C. Rosten

        by Wayneman on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 07:41:40 PM PDT

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      •  Neil Young is pretty smart (1+ / 0-)
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        enough

        but you have every right to dislike him if you want to.

        This above all: to thine own self be true...-WS

        by Agathena on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 07:45:51 PM PDT

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      •  thanks & sorry about the troll rates (3+ / 0-)
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        It seems some Kosians can't handle the truth.

        They'd rather troll rate than do some research and counter with facts.

        I'll give you a 4 just to even the score.

        I'm no expert on Young, but I had heard that he had backed Father Bush.

        I'm really delighted with the songs and the new album and pleased that he's putting it out in such a forceful way - the songs are getting lots of attention & as far as I'm concerned he's redeemed himself.

        ~~~~~~~~~~
        peace out

        •  He did not back pappa Bush! (4+ / 0-)
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          Have you ever listened to the song, "keep on rockin' in the free world"?

          No way did Young support HW Bush.  He was right out in front on criticizing the old man, and wrote one of the only straight up protest songs of the era.

          "Birds...scream at the top of their lungs every morning at daybreak to warn us all of the truth...but sadly we don't speak bird." ~Kurt Cobain, Journals

          by Subterranean on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 10:52:54 PM PDT

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          •  thanks for setting the record straight (0+ / 0-)

            I really do need to do some research on this.

            peace

            •  Start your research here (1+ / 0-)
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              Ohio tells the story of the anti-war demonstrators who were killed by the Ohio National Guard. A story that Neil Young immortalized in the song Ohio.

              Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
              We're finally on our own.
              This summer I hear the drumming
              Four dead in Ohio.

              You are young, it's right that you sing your own songs and fight Bush in your own way but those of us who have fought this battle before are celebrating the return of an old hero coming again the the front lines.

              •  return of an old hero (0+ / 0-)

                that's the point

                return

                Honestly I really did hear that Neil Young after giving us that wonderful anti-war songs Ohio did wander off to the right - support Republicans - all that - [big sigh]

                So I just did a google search for "Neil Young + "Ronald Reagan" - & here's something that came up:

                Over the years, there's been a lot of speculation and commentary about whether Neil Young was actually a supporter of the United States President Ronald Reagan. Here are two interviews with Neil on the subject.

                AMSTERDAM INTERVIEW - 1989
                INT: You have been known to support Reagan, which a lot of fans thought you were going right wing, and then I think in Rolling Stone you said you weren't very fond of Bush. I was wondering why you apparently changed political views?

                NEIL: Because that's only an apparent thing. I don't have a view, I have an opinion that changes because everyday is a different day. I'm not a liberal or a conservative. I'm not like that. With Reagan, some things he did were terrible, some things he did were great. Most people tend to take a president and say you hate...he does one thing you really don't like. Like he builds excessive amounts of warheads or something. So you write him off completely. Which I think is completely stupid. And I think, is very narrow minded.

                Anyone can have an opinion and be right, like you don't want warheads on earth. I agree with that, but that is a decision that he made to do that and I disagree with that. On the other hand there are other things that he did that I agreed with. And because I had the ability to say what I feel, people only write part of it, because its news that I would agree with Reagan. So they say Neil Young supports Reagan, so fuck 'em, I don't care what they do.

                Everyday is different. Sometimes I like George, sometimes I don't like George Bush.

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                MTV "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" INTERVIEW - 1990
                MTV: At one point when you were sort of in a country mode, you were sort of making noises about Ronald Reagan was a good guy...you sort of come around from that position too?

                NEIL: I never made, you know, I was never a Reagan supporter in a total blanket sense. I was one of those who felt that some ideas he had were good ideas. He had one point that he was stressing in the first six months of his job that he thought the people in the communities and neighborhoods should pull together and try to do things on their own more than depending on government to do it for them. And I thought that was a hell of an idea and here's this old guy and he's kind of got this image, of this fatherly image, telling all these people in their neighborhoods to pull together and get your own daycare centers happening, and get this and that happening.

                I thought that was a cool thing, I thought it was a good thing. So then I'm on my bus, someplace in some hell hole somewhere, playing some show and the good part of it is when I'm on stage and the bad part of it is the rest of it. And these two dorks come on my bus, I don't know how it happened, I swear to God, two jerks from some press service come on my bus and start asking me these questions and I just kind of burnt.

                And these guys starting putting down Reagan left and right and everything and I looked at the guy and I said "You're an asshole, you know, you don't know what the hell you are talking about cause you probably put down every damn president, you know, that ever lived. You're a president basher, that's all you do is if they win, they lose."

                So I said the guy's got some good ideas, I stand behind the way he feels about this and that, and I told him...I said, I think you're full of shit for dismissing a person completely in every idea he has because he happens to be president and he makes some really stupid moves on one level, that I would never think of making. That doesn't mean that the guy didn't have some good ideas somewhere along the line maybe yesterday about something else.

                So with the press, it's so hard, even though print is in black and white, it's so hard for them to make it clear what's really happening.

                So here I am - Reagan supporter! [Neil throws up hands in mock humor sort of way while shrugging and shaking his head in disbelief.]

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                peace out

          •  Have you ever listened to 'Let's Roll' (0+ / 0-)

            "Let's roll for freedom,
            Let's roll for love,
            We're going after satan,
            On the wings of a dove,
            Let's roll for justice,
            Let's roll for truth,
            Let's not let our children,
            Grow up fearfull in there youth."

            Satan?! We're going after satan? Really? This should have been a debut with Toby Keith.

            "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

            by astronautagogo on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 03:06:22 AM PDT

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      •  I believe that Young was quoted out of context (2+ / 0-)
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        because that statement sounds more like his sarcasm speaking.  He deadpans without hint.

        For example, more food for thought,

        http://arts.guardian.co.uk/...

        May 22, 2003

        . . .
        After a string of less-than-awesome albums, it is excellent news that Young has found himself a new itch to scratch. He has never been a political songwriter, unless you count his 1970 hit single Ohio, but the songs from his new album, Greendale, take a critical squint at Bush's America through a small-town keyhole.

        He tells his story about the fictional town of Greendale through a variety of characters, including three generations of the Green family, but the dominant themes reflect Young's personal concerns. He seems especially fired up by issues of media intrusion, ecological conservation and illegal surveillance by government agencies.

        . . .

        "It's a robust time, probably the most fertile time for the underground and for revolution since Nixon. I'm not talking about political overthrow; I'm talking about just general cultural revolution. Bush has polarised the country and is creating this breeding ground for an opposition. In the next couple of months, they'll probably make it unpatriotic to be Democrat. It's pretty crazy."

        So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way.

        by wader on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 08:32:01 PM PDT

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        •  Wader (0+ / 0-)

          Fine, I didn't put the fact that "Let's Roll" was about 9/11 passengers. I do think it's interesting though, that the only 2 folks to really popularize that statement in recent history were George W, when egging on the resistance in Iraq to fuck up our troops...and Neil Young.
          Seriously, do the math, who do you think this Regean rocker voted for?

          "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

          by astronautagogo on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 01:44:19 AM PDT

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          •  If he voted, I bet it was not for Reagan or (0+ / 0-)

            Bush.

            He wasn't really a "Reagan rocker", either:

            http://www.thrasherswheat.org/...

            I don't have a view, I have an opinion that changes because everyday is a different day. I'm not a liberal or a conservative. I'm not like that. With Reagan, some things he did were terrible, some things he did were great. Most people tend to take a president and say you hate...he does one thing you really don't like. Like he builds excessive amounts of warheads or something. So you write him off completely. Which I think is completely stupid. And I think, is very narrow minded.

            Anyone can have an opinion and be right, like you don't want warheads on earth. I agree with that, but that is a decision that he made to do that and I disagree with that. On the other hand there are other things that he did that I agreed with. And because I had the ability to say what I feel, people only write part of it, because its news that I would agree with Reagan. So they say Neil Young supports Reagan, so fuck 'em, I don't care what they do.

            . . .

            What Neil describes above is that he tries to see good in people, I feel - at least until they prove themselves unworthy of such.  He tends to not write people off wholesale immediately, from what I've gleaned.  The above is consistent with that considerate viewpoint.

            So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way.

            by wader on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 11:34:41 AM PDT

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      •  Back your shit up. Very lame post. (5+ / 0-)
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        1. You start with a confronational title but your post goes immediately into a defense that you are some kind of punk rocker.  OK, fine if you like a different kind of music, but how does that make NY a dumbass or contribute to the dialogue?
        1. Neil Young did not support George W. Bush.  Nor did he support GWHW or Reagan. Read posts below that explain this very well and were posted later than yours.  Yours is higher in the thread list because you replied to a high post.  This is very lame.
        1. Neil wrote a song called "Let's Roll" which was a tribute to the people on flight 93.  They were heroes.  This does not equal support for the invasion of Iraq.
        1. Support for temporary Patriot Act provisions does not make you a hypocrite if you don't support permanent implementation of those temporary measures.
        1. How does you figure this album is "late"?  It reflects Neil's art and many people seem to relate to its message and content.
        •  Response was to astronautagogo (0+ / 0-)

          Meant to respond to parent of the one I responded to.

        •  Lame post huh? (0+ / 0-)

          Young endorsed Regean, the Patriot Act, the Iraq invasion, had many kind words for Bush Senior, and supported W only until very recently....gimmie a fucking break!
          I'd much rather throw my weight behind promoting a truly coherent political voice in music...like CHUCK D!

          "In addition, before the 2004 Presidential Election, Public Enemy released the highly anti-Bush EP SON OF A BUSH that contained the songs "Son of a Bush", "Get Your Shit Together" and the song featuring Fine Arts Mililia (featuring Chuck D) entitled "Twisted Sense of God"
          http://www.answers.com/...

          "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

          by astronautagogo on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 01:58:32 AM PDT

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          •  and I bet... (0+ / 0-)

            if you spoke with both Chuck D and Neil Young, they'd express a lot of admiration for each other's work.

            Whatever created the chip on your shoulder, hope you can get rid of it eventually.

            -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

            by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 12:39:56 PM PDT

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            •  Maybe the force fed (0+ / 0-)

              Baby boomer reverence crap. Oh yeah, Chuck D never endorsed the Patriot Act.
              While Neil was telling everyone to support Bush's war, Chuck D was writing anti Bush songs:
              http://en.wikipedia.org/...
              Funny, black artists who knew what time it was all along, have never seen the recommended list here.

              "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

              by astronautagogo on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 03:10:23 AM PDT

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      •  what, we're not allowed to change our minds? (0+ / 0-)

        Who cares what was going on in Neil Young's head immediately after 9/11.  We were all fucked up.

        Instead of looking at the glass half-empty, let's cheer him on for getting it right and having the balls to say so.

        I was never a big Neil Young fan (and I'm old enough to remember when the Beatles were together) but now I am.

        "Biggest Pain-in-the-Ass on This Board"!!

        by hrh on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 09:48:33 PM PDT

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      •  he fucked up (0+ / 0-)
        He's not a dumbass.  You just use the opportunity to bash the elder generation.  But that's ok ...

        Cause it's the old man
        He's got all the money
        And a young man?
        Ain't got nothin in the world these days

        In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

        by yet another liberal on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 10:18:34 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks (0+ / 0-)

        I did not know that Young actually shilled for Bush at one point.  Thanks for setting the record straight.

        I've seen Young in concert a few times, and I must say, I was not very impressed.  He did an accoustic set, solo, and that was brilliant, but his electric band was pretty lame.  He went into 10 minute jams that were little more than background music.  

        My sense is that at any single time, Young is only creating a few good songs, maybe 10% of his total output.  But he's so prolific, and his career so long, that he's accumulated a wealth of great songs.  

        I should explain that while my interests lie primarily in newer, punk-inspired rock music like Sonic Youth and Radiohead, one of my favorite live concerts of all time was the Allman Brothers, with Dicky Betts on guitar.  They knew how to JAM - you just didn't want them to stop playing.  So I do appreciate the style of music Young tries to play, it's just that I don't think he's very good at it.

        "Birds...scream at the top of their lungs every morning at daybreak to warn us all of the truth...but sadly we don't speak bird." ~Kurt Cobain, Journals

        by Subterranean on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 10:49:31 PM PDT

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        •  I take it back (0+ / 0-)

          You put out some misinformation on Young supporting Pappy Bush, so I can only assume the info on him supporting Dubya is false.

          "Birds...scream at the top of their lungs every morning at daybreak to warn us all of the truth...but sadly we don't speak bird." ~Kurt Cobain, Journals

          by Subterranean on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 10:56:22 PM PDT

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          •  Yo Subterranean, head out of ass (0+ / 0-)

            Stop being in denial and check the link I posted up above.
            "Indeed, in the aftermath of the al-Qa'ida attacks on the US of 11 September 2001, it seemed that Young had taken the side with the President and supported the steps he was taking in the so-called "war on terror."
            Last I checked Neil was a US citizen, living in LA for quite some time...meaning, he's a american voter. Hell, he endorsed Regean.
            Oh, here's another link for you to pretend doesn't exist. It's about Neil telling us to give up our rights:
            http://www.counterpunch.org/...

            Look, I'm happy Neil has finally got his head out of his ass...but with his track record, he'll probably just end up flipping back again in a couple years, like he always has. Probably campaigning for McCain in 08.
            If Neil Young is what it takes for some people to realize that Bush needs impeachment then great...but don't expect me to crap rainbows over this former repub rocker.

            "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

            by astronautagogo on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 01:33:52 AM PDT

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            •  Neil's not American (0+ / 0-)
              You're ignorant, man.

              He's a Canadian, with a green card and everything.

              You seem to think Neil's contribution matters so little? What the hell have you done for "the cause?" Huh?

              Neil wears his heart on his sleeve, that's all.

              So, he may change his mind later. He's a free man, not required to sign some liberal oath. This is America, not China under Mao, particularly on our side of the aisle.

              And as for Neil having his "head out of his ass," I suggest you go find "Greendale" from 2003.

              He hasn't been behind the Iraq war, at all, nor behind Bush in any way except in the wake of 9-11 against Afghanistan and al Qaeda. I'd suggest anybody who wasn't for that fight was either an outright pacifist, which is fine, or a traitor. And Bush, obviously, was not for that fight, having instead wanted to go against Iraq, which makes Bush the traitor. And, no, Neil didn't support Bush's dad, either.

              You're taking things way out of context. I think you're the one with your head up your ass.

              •  Right after 9/11 (0+ / 0-)

                I came out in full force AGAINST George Bush. Many people called me alot of names, including some liberals. I told people that 9/11 coulda and shoulda been easily thwarted. I told people that 9/11 wouldn't have happened had our REAL elected president, Al Gore been in the White House and I still firmly believe that.
                Bush and Co had the memo's, they had all the info many times over, ignored it, and boom!
                I told people that we needed to concern ourselves much more with impeaching Bush & Co for it's incompetence, & negligence before we give them a blank check authority over every decision.
                People called me a traitor, a commy, a bastard, and other choice words.
                I was against the Afganistan invation because common sense told me from what we had observed thus far from the unelected president, that they would just fuck it all up and not execute the mission properly. They did. They had our military team up with warlords & thugs and we lost the respect of the citizens there. They did not catch Osama either.

                Now, I know alot of people backed the illegitimate president and every decision this administration was making temporarily, but I have less sympathy for people like Neil Young.
                Just like I'm much less judgemental of poor, working class, or even some middle class, reactioniary repub backers. These people don't have the opportunites or the resources to really get at real alternative media formats.
                These kind of folks don't have the money to travel, talk to different kinds of people, see diversity in action, or to see how our government's decisions contrast so greatly with the rest of the free world etc...
                Then there's the rich, well traveled sort of repub backers. These people have no fucking excuse, they've seen the world and yet choose immature arrogance over pragmatic long term reasoning.
                Then, even worse, are the privavliged, celeb repub  backers.
                These people have seen the world 50 times over. They are the recipients of the very slim half percent of society that actually have financially benefited from Bush & CO, while the rest of us eat shit.
                I think it's funny how some Kossacks have interpeted Neil Young's history with sticking up for right wing agendas as "being your own man"
                The working class is still recovering from Reaganomics, and the working class will be recovering from this illegitimate, thug of a president for a long time to come.
                Like I said, I'm glad Neil took his head out of his ass to make a stink about impeaching W. I'm glad that people give a shit about his anti Bush album. I hope it serves as one of many tools to get most folks in this country behind a long overdue impeachment.
                Hell, I don't care what famous person is bashing Bush, just as long as they are doing it.
                But right now, I'm having a debate about Neil Young's cred with fellow Kossacks, fellow liberals.
                When that's the case yeah, I think Neils kind of a dumbass. He's a very fickle voice to have in our corner.
                At the end of the day, I hope Neil's fame from this album serves us well.
                FYI, i am aware of Young's Johnny Rotton reference. Too bad J Rotton's politics didn't rub off on him more back then.

                "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

                by astronautagogo on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 10:50:02 AM PDT

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                •  John Lydon's 'politics' (1+ / 0-)
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                  John Lydon's politics can be pretty much summed up by "What's in it for John Lydon?" "Johnny Rotten" was never a standard-bearer for anything but himself, and if you asked him, I'm sure he'd tell you that.

                  I loved the Pistols, but if you think they were some kind of standard-bearers for progressive politics, you're f'ing crazy. As he sang in "EMI," "I tell you, it was all a frame/We only did it for the fame." And the filthy lucre.

                  And besides, even if he was sincere about what he was singing about, do you really think "anarchy" is a worthy, legitimate political stance to take? Anarchy isn't progressive, it's nihilistic and childish.

                  -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

                  by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 12:50:55 PM PDT

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                  •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

                    Yup.  The politics of Never Mind the Bollocks and Johnny Rotten were rebellion for the sake of rebellion; blind, nearly inarticulate and chaotic railing against the status quo (which, given the state of things in 1976, wasn't a bad thing, but hardly anything to look toward for any kind of insight).  The fact that "Bodies" can very easily be interpreted as a pro-life song ("She was a no-one who killed her baby") attests to the scattershot approach of Lydon/Rotten's lyrical content.  He'd refine his approach after dropping the "Rotten" persona and deliver much more worthy material with Public Image, Ltd. (at least up through This is What You Want, This is What You Get if not Album/Cassette/Compact Disc) but Rotten hardly presented with the Bollocks lyrics, to cop a Joy Division title, an ideal for living.  Unlike Crass, whose lyrics actually presented anarchy as something more meaningful and progressive than the petty nihilism of Rotten and the Pistols (for whom anarchy was more of a generic buzzword than a political philosophy).  You could actually come away from a Crass album having learned something -- the downside is that a good deal of their material is as entertaining as a university lecture, but that's neither here nor there.  Lydon/Rotten: good poet, lousy political thinker.

                    •  The great rock & roll swindle (0+ / 0-)

                      Guess y'all never heard of I R O N Y !

                      Johnny Rotton never went on the stump for RONALD FUCKING REGEAN.

                      Johnny Rotton never endorsed the idea of taking away my civil liberties.

                      Johnny Rotton never would have voted for either Bush's, let alone go around telling everyone to support Bush's faux "war on terror"

                      Neil Young, glad he's temporarily took his head out of his ass long enough to perhaps undo some of the damage he's done. We really coulda used an album like this before November of 2004!

                      Like I said, I think it's funny how y'all have spun Neil's support for destructive right wing adgendas as him "being his own man"

                      Neil Young, just another filthy rich, whiny baby boomer sell out trying to get his soul back....YAWN.

                      "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

                      by astronautagogo on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 07:22:55 PM PDT

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                      •  correction (0+ / 0-)

                        "Johnny Rotton never would have voted for either Bush's"

                        -Obviously, I meant he would have never voted for either Bush's.

                        "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

                        by astronautagogo on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 07:24:09 PM PDT

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                      •  ...And guess what... (0+ / 0-)

                        Neil Young never went on the stump for RONALD FUCKING REAGAN.

                        Get your facts together, try to work on your spelling so that it might actually seem that you respect or at least have some knowledge about the people you claim to (because it's hard to believe that you know anything about Johnny Rotten when you consistently misspell his name), stop regurgitating memes that have been discounted long ago and repeating yourself over and over again, and your arguments might start to at least appear more valid.  Did Neil ever have a good word to say about RR?  Yep.  He did.  Which is a LONG FUCKING WAY from either "endorsing" him or going "on the stump" for him.  For that, he managed to have his words taken out of context in order to better paint the "aging hippie baby boomer turned Republican shill" picture that was oh-so-popular during the 1980s, what with the conversion of Jerry Rubin and the like.  Did Neil appear to support provisions of the PATRIOT Act?  From the two sentences of one speech quoted in the CounterPunch piece you linked to earlier, it appears so, but I'm not going to be convinced one way or the other until I'm provided with some context, which the piece is sorely lacking (and Dave Marsh knows better as a writer -- that was a lazy, lazy piece of work).  And at any rate, if those statements were being accurately reported on, he will be answering for them.  He'll be held accountable for making them.  Because believe me, the press is going to latch onto them in the wake of this album, if the interview featured on CNN is any kind of barometer for the hostile reception it's going to receive in certain quarters.

                        You act as if nobody has ever made any statements they later regretted, believed anything they later recanted, or done anything they later wanted to take back.  I guess it must be great to be idealogically pure, I wouldn't know.

                        And what is so ironic about either the Sex Pistols or the album Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols???  Just what is Rotten saying that is the diametric opposite of what he means?  Where exactly does he employ that tactic?  Because outside of McLaren's post-breakup retconning of the entire history of the band's formation, career, and demise, there is nothing ironic about the band or any of their (legitimate -- Great Rock & Roll Swindle doesn't count) works.

                        •  Your an asshole (0+ / 1-)
                          Recommended by:
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                          So my spelling isn't the best....glad you used that as your main leverage to overlook inconvenient facts.

                          Nice try but you are forgeting Neil's unabashed support for the Patriot Act--which record was recording then?

                          It's really really hard to take someone seriously when, in one part of his career, he is decrying US military flyovers in 'Helpless', in another part of his career, he's cheerleading 'death from above'. The guy who wrote Ohio, right?

                          Nobody needs another jaded sell-out 'boomer' telling us about Bush...we already knew.

                          Nope...the cred points go to guys like Steve Earle and Willie--they earned it!

                          Young is like Bono...when they had the opportunity to speak out or even read their own songs, they didn't and it won't be forgotten.

                          Oh yeah, any facts you choose not to believe about Young's history must be me taking him out of context right?!
                          Because he's "his own man".

                          I think the popstar Pink, though not wild about her music,  has more sense & smarts:
                          http://www.youtube.com/...
                          AND, she actaully carrys relevance to tommorrow's voters.

                          The following quote is from Tucker Carlson:

                          "In any case, here’s a sample of Young’s latest protest tune:

                          What if Al Qaeda blew up the levees

                          Would New Orleans have been safer that way

                          Sheltered by our government’s protection

                          Or was someone just not home that day?

                          What does that even mean? The U.S. government is sheltering Al Qaeda? In New Orleans? Huh? It's literally nonsense."

                          For once, Tucker the fucker and I agree.
                          Oh yeah, dude, the Sex Pistols were almost ENTIRELY ALL SMART ASS IRONY!

                          Oh yeah, here's a bit of history from Johnny's "unpolitical" Pistol's career:

                          "The group's second single, released by Virgin on 27 May 1977 was "God Save the Queen", a stinging attack on the ideals and institutions of Britain, delivered in Johnny's trademark sneer. The song is summarized in the line "There is no future ... in England's dreaming," which became a de facto position statement for British punk. The song was widely perceived as a personal attack on Her Majesty, and seemed to be personally offensive to most of his countrymen. Rotten however stated that the song was not specifically aimed at the Queen's person at all ("God save the queen/We mean it man!"), but was written to attack the 'old order' of British Society. Coming at a time when deference to royalty was still a predominant trait in both the establishment and the country as a whole, it caused tremendous public outcry, and the record was quickly banned from airplay by the staid BBC, whose Radio 1 dominated music broadcasting at the time. As Rotten later remarked, "We had declared war on the entire "
                          Here's another link for you to pretend doesn't exist:
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/...

                          Later Mr Keaton.

                          "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

                          by astronautagogo on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 02:52:13 AM PDT

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        •  shilling is quite an exaggeration (0+ / 0-)
          He didn't set the record straight, he exaggerated (like you just did).

          I'm not trying to argue, just set the record straight.  :-)

          In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

          by yet another liberal on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 11:00:58 PM PDT

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          •  The REAL exaggeration (0+ / 0-)

            Is the title of this diary....A cheap ploy to get it recommended.
            Let's crap rainbows because an old white, rocker finally woke up!
            While black artists who have ALWAYS been against the right wing, who have also released specific anti Bush songs, like Chuck D for example, have never seen the recommended list.

            "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

            by astronautagogo on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:06:28 AM PDT

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            •  Neil's been fighting the power... (0+ / 0-)
              Neil's been fighting the power since before Chuck D was a gleem in his father's eye. He's been fighting the power since Chuck D was in diapers. You have your facts wrong and you're just being obstinate and you know it.
      •  And if you'll remember RIGHT after 9/11, ALOT of (0+ / 0-)

        folks were trying to 'back' BushCo in their own shock and denial of what happened in our very country....then  people began to realize that this Administration had planned this all along for total control (mind, body, soul) of Americans and America...

        EVERY DEMOCRATE, save what, ONE?  Followed BushCo and 'backed' him/them....look how many are STILL following him.

        Neil Young did these type of songs during Vietnam and thank GOODNESS he did this album.

        and PUNK ROCK?  What crap is that?

        •  Barbara... (0+ / 0-)

          I don't know how old you are (I'm 44 myself), but calling punk rock "crap" is rather silly. It sounds like what the white, middle-class parents were saying to their kids in 1954 when the kids started listening to "that noise."

          Hell, punk rock is 30 years old now (and yes, we can argue that punk actually goes back to the mid 60s if not earlier, but we don't have the time and space to argue over that here). It's old enough that bands like The Clash, the Sex Pistols and the Ramones are in the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame now.

          If you haven't heard it before, buy yourself a copy of London Calling ASAP. One of the greatest albums of all time. Worth the price just for the prescient, poetic title track alone:

          London calling to the faraway towns
          Now that war is declared-and battle come down
          London calling to the underworld
          Come out of the cupboard, all you boys and girls
          London calling, now don’t look at us
          Phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust
          London calling, see we ain’t got no swing
          ’cept for the ring of that truncheon thing

          The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in
          Engines stop running, the wheat is growing thin
          A nuclear error, but I have no fear
          London is drowning, and I... live by the river

          You don't have to get the deluxe version, BTW - as someone says in one of the amazon.com reviews, it's really for completists and "uber-fans." I did get it, though - after having bought the vinyl version in 1980 and the CD whenever it was that I started buying CDs. The concert footage on the bonus DVD is pretty awesome.

          -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

          by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 01:07:32 PM PDT

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      •  Punk rock (0+ / 0-)

        As in "The king is gone/but he's not forgotten/This is the story/of Johnny Rotten"--N. Young Rust Never Sleeps

      •  you and neil young have something in common (0+ / 0-)

        he was one of the first "old school" rockers to embrace punk. check out side 2 of "rust never sleeps" (whose title he got while hanging out with Devo -- and yes, I know, they're "new wave", not punk). he never recorded an album that was "strictly" punk, but then, he nevers does anything by the rules. if Welfare Mothers isn't punk, what is it? what about his bizarre take on Farmer John (I'm in love with your daughter), from Arc (or was it Weld? Somebody writing for wikipedia asserts that his album Tonight's the Night

        received mixed reviews at the time, but is now regarded by some as a precursor to punk rock

        . Don't know if I buy it, but it's food for thought. He is recognized, without reserve, as The Godfather of Grunge, and though you may or may not agree, most folks these days consider Grunge to be an authentically American variety of punk (in contrast to the tagalong wannabe American punks of the late 70s and early 80s, middle class white American kids who thought they had something in common with the dead-end teens of Thatcher's London.).

        i find that people who criticize Young typically are familiar with one or two of his albums (or sometimes, just songs) that for one reason or another annoy them, and they just can't get past that. over his career he has recorded almost every variety of rock and country music, usually bringing a fresh approach to well-worn formats.

        and to say that he "lock-stepped" with dubya is just silly. he's been mulling the problems of Empire and whatnot for at least 20 years, starting with Freedom and Ragged Glory. he never accepted this administration at face value.

        it's okay to have an opinion, and it's okay to have tastes that differ from those of other people, but it's best if one's opinions are informed, and one's tastes are experienced.

        I am further of the opinion that the President must be impeached and removed from office!

        by UntimelyRippd on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 07:43:05 AM PDT

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        •  I have to quibble a bit... (0+ / 0-)

          with "...tagalong wannabe American punks of the late 70s and early 80s, middle class white American kids who thought they had something in common with the dead-end teens of Thatcher's London."

          Yes, some later American punk bands could be described that way. But really, you can also say that the Brit punks copped what they did from the earlier, New York City punk of bands like the Ramones, The New York Dolls, Patty Smith, etc. (Who were inspired by the earlier work of Iggy and the Stooges, who were inspired by the even earlier work of the mid 60s garage bands, who were inspired by the British Invasion, who were... etc.) Only they did so without embracing any of the nuance of those bands (yes, they really did have some subtleties, if you look hard enough), and largely became cartoon characters in the process. The colored hair and "punk" clothing was largely an exagerated version of what was being done in NYC in `75 and earlier, being sold to them retail by Malcolm McLaren.

          The Beatles got their start copping Chuck Berry and Carl Perkins. Were they "tag alongs?"

          As one of those "middle class white American kids" of the late 70s and early 80s, I was inspired by all of that stuff and more. I wouldn't be so dismissive of the punk scenes that bloomed after that first punk wave. Lot of important, vital music came out of those scenes.

          I'm not sure if I'd characterize grunge as being "an authentically American variety of punk," really. But then, what difference does it make? Great rock n' roll is great rock n' roll, period.

          -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

          by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 01:27:33 PM PDT

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          •  no argument about the origins of punk (0+ / 0-)

            it's the new york dolls et al, for sure. but for whatever reasons, that music didn't go very far in america until it had crossed to the UK and gotten all hyped up by McLaren and his ilk. but when it came back to america, it came back as a manufactured pop phenomenon. unlike many of my contemporaries, i viewed, and still view, the sex pistols as one gigantic con job. (in miscellaneous interviews, Johnny Lydon has come pretty close to admitting it.) but beyond that, my perception of most american "punks" -- as with the white suburban kids who got all excited about early rap and hip hop -- was that they were just getting a cheap thrill out of irritating their parents. what makes me (and others) view grunge as american punk is that it came from a genuine american experience of alienation and anomie (pardon the intellectual-speak).

            but the truth is, i don't have much patience for the hypercategorization of music. one of the things that impresses me about neil young is exactly that he blows the categories apart. again, consider Rust Never Sleeps. what the hell kind of song is Powderfinger? Metalgrass? and what about the two versions of the "title" track: Out of the Blue and Into the Black. The first is pretty straightforward folk-rock. The second is ... well, I don't really know what it is, but it's sure not the same thing as the first version. Funny that they're both the same song.

            I am further of the opinion that the President must be impeached and removed from office!

            by UntimelyRippd on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 06:12:01 PM PDT

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      •  Neil's mercurial (0+ / 0-)
        He's always changing his mind. Look at the number of hats he wears musically. But he's almost always sincere and passionate in his art, and definitely so on this record.

        You want to dislike him for that, fine. It's your business.

        But, don't think for a moment the old hippie is not on "our side" right now and for the foreseeable future. He surely is. And what do you think most people are going to remember Neil for in the near future? Neil has just made an entire album devoted to being anti-war and is calling out Bush by name, calling him a liar and calling for his impeachment. He's got a song named, "Let's Impeach The President," for goodness' sake. You think people will remember some obscure speech or a single that was about taking on al Qaeda, what should have been a "good" fight, not Iraq? No, people will remember this album. This will be and already is a fair-sized media meme. It's not Pitt-Jolie, but it's out there.

        Think what you want, of course, but I think you ought to be praising the guy. He's done more with a single album that he blasted out in like a month, from the start of recording to its May 8 release, than what anyone here at DKos has done since the election.

      •  And about 'punk'... (0+ / 0-)
        Oh, and about "punk," if "Rust Never Sleeps" -- one of Neil's best records -- isn't punk, what the hell is? It may be a bit drunk and country/blues, too, but I can't think of much more "punk" record than "Tonight's The Night," for that matter, and same with his umpteenth comeback, "Ragged Glory." Neil IS punk, and garage, and grunge, and folk, and country, and western, and on occasion early techno, rockabilly, blues and rock-opera/rock-playwrite. I think the only music he hasn't done is orchestral/classic, true operatic, jazz and lounge. So, why don't you go find "Sedan Delivery," from "Rust Never Sleeps," and explain to me how Neil isn't punk. It's absurd. And what does Mr. Keaton have to do with anything?
      •  actually, if you were 'raised'... (0+ / 0-)

        on punk rock, like I was (old school variety, as in Pistols, Clash, Ramones, etc.), you'd know that Neil Young is one of those timeless icons who've continually been a source of inspiration for every generation of musicians, and who continually have their respect. There aren't many of those - Pete Townshend comes to mind (highly respected by John Lydon and his boys). Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley. Bob Marley. Bob Dylan. Bruce Springsteen. (I'll stop there, `cause I'm sure I'll leave out someone I shouldn't have.)

        In 1980 I was an 18-year-old punk rocker, who got suckered into voting for Ronald Reagan. The two worst things I ever did were vote for Ronald Reagan and take up smoking. I've since quit smoking (finally, now that I'm in my forties), but I'll never be able to take back my vote for Reagan.

        so maybe Neil Young has said and done some dumb things over the years. Guess what? So have most everybody else. I'm sure if we go back and examine your entire life, we'll find some things that you're ashamed of or embarrassed by. But you don't live a public life like Neil does, so it'd take a little more work.

        But we won't do that, because we don't really care about your past mistakes. We care about what you're saying and doing right now.

        I will say this though: if you were "raised on punk rock" yet you're not able to acknowledge the classic, timeless nature of much of Neil Young's lifetime of musical achievement, you're likely more of a poseur than a punker.

        -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

        by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 12:36:14 PM PDT

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        •  Waaaaa! Boo hoooooo!!!! (0+ / 0-)

          I'm a rich & famous baby boomer telling everyone to back Bush's "war on terror" and telling the poor to just "empower" themselves!
          I'm so fucking punk rock, I write songs for AND against right wing thug agendas.
          Let's all shit rainbows cause the old white guy writes protest songs well after Bush's re-election! Wow, what guts!
          SO classic and timeless. Rock dinosaurs, i'm so fucking sick of rock music period.
          All this almost religous baby boomer reverence for "the classic" rock...
          YAWN!
          Boo hoo, a Kossack disses Neil Young, the nerve!!!
          Let's all troll rate!

          "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

          by astronautagogo on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 03:03:48 AM PDT

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  •  Holy Crap! (8+ / 0-)

    Quite an "arresting" title you got there.

    "You know what Capitalism is?...Getting fucked" - Tony Montana

    by calipygian on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:28:48 PM PDT

  •  He's Not Canadian Of Course (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    deepfish, greenearth

    He's a lot less Canadian than the governor of California is an illegal immigrant.

    9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

    by NewDirection on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:31:27 PM PDT

  •  This link... (9+ / 0-)

    has a ticker going with all the lyrics.

    http://www.neilyoung.com

    I think it's way cool that he's offering it up FREE on the web.

    I know I'll be getting the cleaner cut version when it comes out next week (available first in downloadable versions, then in stores on cd I think the following week).

  •  In Neil Cavuto's mind, (10+ / 0-)

    if he can't make money off of it, it probably hates America.

  •  CANADIAN rocker (35+ / 0-)

    Neil Young. He's been living in the U.S. for at least 35 years, supporting our farmers at farm aid!
    Nobody fucks with Brother Neil and gets away with it!
    And he could go back to Canada and live a nice quiet life up there. But, he's a true artist raising 2 kids with cerebal palsy, and helping others with it, and he's chosen to put his nuts on the line and say something meaningful, AGAIN!
    Hero in my book. Those pricks on fox, fuck 'em.

    "If you pretend to have W.M.D., the U.S. may come and get you. Ask Saddam. If you really have W.M.D., you're bulletproof. Ask Kim Jong Il." - Maureen Dowd

    by sadair on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:34:24 PM PDT

  •  Neil v Bush (11+ / 0-)

    No contest, ko in the first round.  Bush can't even speak American, let alone English, for God's sake.  Neil is literate, passionate and an artist.  Bush is the underbelly of the greedy rich.

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." J. Lennon

    by trashablanca on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:35:59 PM PDT

  •  Say goodbye. . . (5+ / 0-)

    . . . to the Kennedy Center honors, I guess, Neil.

    Is America finally suffering from Idiot Fatigue?

    by LarryInNYC on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:38:03 PM PDT

  •  One other thing... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    deepfish

    how much more play do you think the Neil Young record will get for Lynrd Skynrd's "Sweet Home Alabama"?  Damn good song, and the Young/Van Zant thing wasn't really much of anything, considering they both respected each other's music and whatnot.

    I mean, the song does defend Watergate and George Wallace... wait, I'd rather hear "Free Bird"

    FREE BIRD!

    •  Wait... (4+ / 0-)
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      I just realized I phrased that entire last post wrong.  Basically, I'm waiting to see if people play Sweet Home Alabama instead, then tried to defend the feud, then realized the song also defended Watergate and George Wallace, and then after that, just wanted to listen to "Free Bird".

      There.  That and I can't wait to get a listen to the Neil Young album.

      •  Liberal Lynyrd Skynyrd (5+ / 0-)

        Mr. Saturday Night Special's a panty-waste, bleeding-heart gun control song.  Bunch of wimps.

        BenGoshi

        (Rpting from Birmingham, where we luv the guvnah [not really], boo, boo, boo)

        ___________________________________________________

        We're working on many levels here. Ken Kesey

        by BenGoshi on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 03:51:28 PM PDT

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        •  panty- WAIST, goddammit! (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
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          Sorry, that's one of my pet peeves...

          "Biggest Pain-in-the-Ass on This Board"!!

          by hrh on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 09:53:58 PM PDT

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          •  You know . . . (0+ / 0-)

            . . . that really wasn't a typo on my part:  I always thought it was "waste" and, well, I thought the meaning was very, very crude.  You get what I'm saying, right?  Anyway, thanks for setting me straight.  Kind of like one of those songs where you just know what that line is, then discover, years later, that you had it all wrong the whole time!

            Happy Saturday to You.  Coffee, check news and Dkos, then get on with things.  

            BenGoshi
            _____________________________________________________

            We're working on many levels here. Ken Kesey

            by BenGoshi on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 04:18:03 AM PDT

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      •  I thought his conscience didn't bother him (0+ / 0-)
        because he didn't vote for or support Nixon.  And there is a good wiki entry on this too http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        Fans of the song argue that these lyrics do not amount to support for Wallace's politics, interpreting them as saying that the band all did what they could do to keep Wallace out of office. Various band members have denied that the song endorses segregation. Also, in a recent radio interview surviving members stated the last line "Montgomery got the answer" was a reference to the Selma to Montgomery civil rights march led by Martin Luther King.

        In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

        by yet another liberal on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 10:44:29 PM PDT

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        •  aren't they from Florida? (0+ / 0-)

          Or should I say weren't they, given how many of them are dead now.

          -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

          by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 01:50:46 PM PDT

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          •  Yep (0+ / 0-)

            (And no, I'm not following you around this thread intentionally!)

            Most of Skynyrd were from Florida (one of their guitarists was from LA and had been in the Strawberry Alarm Clock, just as a side note), and they recorded the song after having recorded earlier in Muscle Shoals.  The guys they worked with there were not the same kind of cats mentioned in Neil's song, and felt that these folks should have their side represented in song as well.  Many people take the song as if the lyrics were coming from Van Zant's perspective, but in actuality, they weren't.

  •  I'll be performing... (5+ / 0-)

    At Grand Army Plaza in Brooklyn for folks headed to the demonstration tomorrow.

    Stop by and say you saw me at Kos.

    Goper's Lament (Hard To Be A Republican)

    Love Songs From Ground Zero

    by Subway Serenade on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:43:38 PM PDT

  •  LUV Georgie's Bubble Dance! (3+ / 0-)
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    peace voter, enough, leo joad

    My 6 year old daughter laughed so hard she peed her pants!

    The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

    by semiot on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:48:31 PM PDT

  •  NY (13+ / 0-)

    Go see Heart Of Gold..Jonathan Demme's Filming of NY in concert in nashville...
    he is and always has been one of the great rock/country rock singer songwriters and looking at him makes me feel it's ok to grow old....
    a master of making simple profound
    his live interview that was on the internet last week is an abject lesson in how our politicians should speak
    directly and with conviction and telling it like it is.

  •  I love Neil Young (0+ / 0-)

    and "On the Beach" is one of my favorite albums of all time.

    I'm sorry...but those lyrics just aren't very good.

    Chuck Schumer is not the enemy

    by AnnArborBlue on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:50:53 PM PDT

    •  Well I hear that Laurel Canyon (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      badger, civil society, FrankFrink, Zwoof

      Is full of famous stars
      but I hate them worse than lepers
      and I'll kill them in their cars.

      "I was Rambo in the disco. I was shootin' to the beat. When they burned me in effigy. My vacation was complete." Neil Young. Mideast Vacation.

      by Mike S on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:52:32 PM PDT

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      •  Vampire Blues! (4+ / 0-)

        And a nice bookened to Zappa's famous commennt about how 'If your kids knew exactly how lame you are they'd kill you in your sleep'.

        You can lock up a mouse or a man but you can't lock up an idea - Tommy Douglas

        by FrankFrink on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:28:17 PM PDT

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      •  Revolution Blues (0+ / 0-)

        My fav. Have a 4

        I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. Will Rogers

        by Zwoof on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 07:32:13 PM PDT

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        •  and it goes kinda like this... (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
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          Well, we live in a trailer
          at the edge of town
          You never see us
          'cause we don't come around.
          We got twenty five rifles

          just to keep

          the population down.
          But we need you now,
          and that's why
          I'm hangin' 'round.
          So you be good to me
          and I'll be good to you,
          And in this land of conditions
          I'm not above suspicion
          I won't attack you,
          but I won't back you.

          Well, it's so good to be here,
          asleep on your lawn.
          Remember your guard dog?
          Well, I'm afraid
          that he's gone.
          It was such a drag
          to hear him
          whining all night long.
          Yes, that was me with the doves,
          setting them free
          near the factory
          Where you built your computer,
          love.
          I hope you get the connection,
          'cause I can't take
          the rejection
          I won't deceive you,
          I just don't believe you.

          Well, I'm a barrel of laughs,
          with my carbine on
          I keep 'em hoppin',
          till my ammunition's gone.
          But I'm still not happy,
          I feel like
          there's something wrong.
          I got the revolution blues,
          I see bloody fountains,
          And ten million dune buggies
          comin' down the mountains.
          Well, I hear that Laurel Canyon
          is full of famous stars,
          But I hate them worse than lepers
          and I'll kill them
          in their cars.

          I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. Will Rogers

          by Zwoof on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 07:35:49 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  Lyrics to 'Looking for a Leader' (12+ / 0-)

      America has a leader
      But he's not in the House
      He's walking here among us
      And we've got to seek him out

      -Neil Young

    •  btw (8+ / 0-)

      One thing I've found with Neil is that it takes a few times before it really sinks in.

      "I was Rambo in the disco. I was shootin' to the beat. When they burned me in effigy. My vacation was complete." Neil Young. Mideast Vacation.

      by Mike S on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 02:56:05 PM PDT

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    •  There's a bit of Canada in that one (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      fabacube, L0kI, lonestar canuck

      especially Ambulance Blues...

      Back in the old folky days
      The air was magic when we played.
      The Riverboat was rockin'
         in the rain
      Midnight was the time
         for the raid.

      Oh, Isabela, proud Isabela,
      They tore you down and
         plowed you under.
      You're only real
         with your make-up on
      How could I see you
         and stay too long?

      .....

      Well, I'm up in T.O.
         keepin' jive alive,
      And out on the corner
         it's half past five.
      But the subways are empty
      And so are the cafes.

      Except for the Farmer's Market
      And I still can hear him say:
      You're all just pissin'
         in the wind
      You don't know it but you are.

      And there ain't nothin'
         like a friend
      Who can tell you
         you're just pissin'
             in the wind.

      The Riverboat and Isabella are both references to Toronto, specifically Yorkville before it was gentrified. The Riverboat was an old folk coffee-house, Isabella is a Toronto street.

      And that whole 'you're all just pissing in the wind' sentiment couldn't be anymore quintessentially Canadian.

      As I said earlier you can take the boy out of Canada but...

      You can lock up a mouse or a man but you can't lock up an idea - Tommy Douglas

      by FrankFrink on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:27:05 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

      Maybe he had to dumb the lyrics down a bit to reach a wider audience :)

  •  The plummeting Bush (4+ / 0-)

    is this year's dancing baby I see.

    •  That's been around quite a long while. (0+ / 0-)
      I'm trying to remember when I first saw it. Damn bookmarks aren't dated -- anyway, I'm on a different computer than I was then.

      Folly is fractal: the closer you look at it, the more of it there is. - TNH

      by Canadian Reader on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:06:14 PM PDT

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  •  Fucking good album (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, L0kI, ChemBob, leo joad

    "Shock and Awe" is my favorite. But I'm only half done.

  •  I saw (6+ / 0-)

    Neil Young in concert in 1996 and Crosby, Stills & Nash in 2005. My greatest wish was to see them all together and now I seem to have a chance: there was a news piece a couple of days ago saying that Young is joining C, S & N for a tour later this year.

    •  Freedom of Speech Tour - CSNY (6+ / 0-)

      April 24, 2006, 11:25 AM ET
      Billboard
      An announcement is expected today (April 24) regarding this summer's Crosby Stills Nash & Young Freedom of Speech tour, Billboard.com has learned. The 35-date tour, promoted by The Next Adventure, will begin July 6 at the Tweeter Center near Philadelphia, and run through Sept. 10 in at the Post-Gazette Pavilion in Burgettstown, Pa.

      Neil Young will be touring in support of two albums: his 2005 acoustic set "Prairie Wind" and a politically charged rock album, "Living With War," which will begin streaming Friday for free on his Web site.

      There had been speculation that Young might tour with his rock band Crazy Horse this year, but a CSNY tour is always welcome, according to TNA President Arthur Fogel. "They've been talking about doing this on and off for a while, but it's up to them when the stars all align and they decide to do it," Fogel tells Billboard.com. " It has been four years since they've gone out, and this is one of those things [where] when you get them all together, it's pretty magical."

      Ticket prices will be "pretty similar to last time," Fogel says, and will top out in $175-$250, depending on the market. Lawn and upper-tier arena tickets will be in the $30-$35 range. There will be a fanclub pre-sale later this week, and tickets will go on sale to the general public this weekend.

      CSNY last toured in 2002, grossing more than $35 million, ninth best for the year. The CSNY2K tour in 2000, the group's first as a foursome in 20 years, grossed $42 million.

  •  Can I vote twice?? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, leo joad

    I just got to America the Beautiful.  I've always loved this anthem - always since I was a kid.  Much better than the national anthem.  What a great way to end the album.

    •  Canadians shouldn't sing that song! (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      FrankFrink

      Like Cavuto says - we don't want no Canadians telling us how bad America is, and we sure don't want them to tell us how dang beautiful it is either.

      •  Blame Canada??? (6+ / 0-)

        It's not like Canada was made fun of bigtime in South Park's Bigger Longer Uncut movie, with "Blame Canada", which even got to present (with Robin Williams) at the Oscars!


        Anyway, if Bush can complain about Hussein or Iran, and Bush is neither Iraqi nor Irani, why can't a Canadian complain about the US?  Fox News apparently thinks it's perfectly acceptable for Americans to criticize other countries, but they cannot criticize us in return.

        Get your Free Mac Mini, you know you want one.

        by Bush B Gone on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 03:11:27 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  what? (0+ / 0-)

        -9.13, -7.79 Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November.

        by L0kI on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:55:50 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Bush Dissed Canada After 9/11 (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        lonestar canuck

        Faux News conveniently forgets two points. First, Neil Young is a citizen of the United States where, at least pre-shrub, dissent was a protected form of free speech.  

        The second thing Faux News and other Bush lovers need to remember is that on 9/11 thousands of American travelers were diverted Canada because the airspace over the US was closed.  More than 8,000 Americans landed in Gander Newfoundland - a city of about 8,000 peoples. How did the overwhelmed city respond?? It opened its doors, housed everyone, clothed everyone, fed everyone.  And without asking for one damned thing, the gracious Canadians did that until Americans could get on a plane and go home.

        How did Bush acknowledge this selfless act of humanity?? A few days later in a televised speech the pathetic little bastard thanked El Salvador and half a dozen other countries for their help that day but not ONCE not ONCE!! did he say a damned thing about Canada. As an American citizen Bush had already embarassed me a zillion times before 9/11. His totaly disregard for our Canadian brothers and sisters was the ultimate embarassment.

        Even though Faux "News" will conveniently forget that stupd Bush act, I wont, and hopefully no Canadian will. If someone born in Canada and living in the United States wants to write a CD that points out what a fuck up Bush is, all I can say is "Let me buy you a Molsons, eh."

        •  he's not a citizen, actually (0+ / 0-)

          Doesn't make a bit of difference to me, of course, but as has been established at other points in this comment thread, Neil Young is a legal resident of the US, but is not actually a citizen. He has a green card.

          To me, it's a technicality - he's more "American" than a lot of native-born Americans. But it does leave him vulnerable to being deported, legally-speaking. That's not likely to happen of course, but then, Nixon did his damndest to deport John Lennon.

          -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

          by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:00:27 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Listened (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    leo joad, CAL11 voter

    Loved it.

    One of the songs gave me goose bumbs.  I think it was flags for freedom.  Though I'm not positive.

  •  Everybody knows this is nowhere (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Creosote, FrankFrink, leo joad

    Just for this, I gotta post lyrics of the title song of the first Neil Young and Crazy Horse album...

    Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere

    I think I'd like to go back home, and take it easy
    There's a woman that I'd like to get to know livin' there
    Everybody seems to wonder, what it's like down here
    I gotta get away from this day to day runnin' around
    Everybody knows this is nowhere
    Everybody, everybody knows, everybody knows

    Every time I think about back home, it's cool and breezy
    I wish that I could be there right now, just passin' time
    Everybody seems to wonder, what it's like down here
    I gotta get away from this day to day runnin' around
    Everybody knows this is nowhere
    Everybody, everybody knows, everybody knows

    The Rapture comes as soon as we've used up all the oil!

    by Leggy Starlitz on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 03:13:12 PM PDT

  •  Any Links W/ Individual Songs? (0+ / 0-)

    I'm working in my machine shop, can only get near the computer for a few moments at a time. I'd love to hear a few samples or maybe 1 tune, but the couple of links I've found are only for the streaming album, and always start with Garden.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 03:20:13 PM PDT

    •  no, not yet (0+ / 0-)

      it's pretty gracious enough that he's providing free streaming of the album. I know it doesn't work out well for you now, but you can always buy the actual CD when it's released.

      -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

      by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:03:58 PM PDT

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  •  neil young is one of my all time favorites (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    gerbbils

    but i have to say that these songs all kind of sound the same, kind of sing-songy and pedestrian. i understand that everyone's stoked on the protest, which is cool, and hopefully someone votes differently because of it, but as music i'd rather listen to harvest.

    the rolling stones suck now too.

    "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."

    by hoodoo meat bucket on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 03:30:45 PM PDT

    •  Well (5+ / 0-)

      He did the album in 8 days, on the fly, and recorded first takes. It's not about art. It's about democracy.

      •  apparantly (0+ / 0-)

        "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."

        by hoodoo meat bucket on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:39:34 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  If you want (0+ / 0-)

          If you want an over-produced, slick, commercial album that has had all the even minor flaws removed via technology, you have much to choose from in today's musical marketplace.

          Personally, I love the raw sound of Young whenever he has explored that side, and certainly live where his guitar explorations are anything but smooth, perfect and well modulated -- they're passionate, primeval and gut wrenching, as is this album, in my opinion.

          •  i'll take (0+ / 0-)

            cowgirl in the sand and down by the river over this stuff. he repeats the same chords over and over! the same vocal melody over and over, with minor differences of inflection.

            "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."

            by hoodoo meat bucket on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 08:51:21 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  After only one listen (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      nameblock, hoodoo meat bucket

      I have to agree, unfortunately.  And I am a huge fan.  I was hoping for better songs and would have preferred more subtle lyrics.  But these are not subtle times and maybe Neil thought the only way some people would hear him was if he brought out the sledge hammer...

      "Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play." - Joseph Goebbels

      by gerbbils on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:32:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  i'm not a big fan of mixing (0+ / 0-)

        art and politics in most cases. it's gimmicky. neil pulled it off with ohio, though. lennon with imagine, but usually it ends up like this.

        "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."

        by hoodoo meat bucket on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:51:17 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I'm a big fan of mixing art and politics (0+ / 0-)

          The more mixing, the more volatile the better.  But the art has to stand on it's own.

          Nearly all popular music from the late '60's early '70's was political.  We just need more great young popular acts speaking up now instead of quaking in their boots in fear and protecting their corporate record deals.

          "Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play." - Joseph Goebbels

          by gerbbils on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:19:44 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  i would draw a distinction between (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            gerbbils

            the political nature of what the music of the period represented and overt political content of individual songs. sure there were some good protest songs, but my favorites were albums like piper at the gates of dawn and ziggy stardust, rather than country joe and the fish. as for today's music, a band like radiohead is very good at inserting political references subtley so that you might not even notice until replaying and contemplating the lyrics over time -- when done like that i think the politics do not detract from the art. jmo.

            "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."

            by hoodoo meat bucket on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:40:28 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  the Stones suck... (0+ / 0-)

      indeed they do. But they suck because they haven't had a creative, sincere moment in almost 25 years. They're money-making cartoon characters. Neil Young has been creating vital, important music all throughout his long, long career. He's had his ups and downs for sure, but at least they haven't been due to his whoring himself out, like Mick Jagger.

      Could you imagine the Stones doing an album inspired by today's events, and making it available in any fashion for free? Nuh uh. They'd be figuring out every possible way to create a revenue stream from the "product."

      (Yes, I'm bitter, because there was a period of time, roughly 1968 to 1972, where the Stones created some of the all-time greatest albums and were indeed a contender for "greatest rock n' roll band in the world," as claimed on the live album Get Your Ya-Ya's Out! - though I'd say The Who would probably win out in that category.)

      Look, this album may well not rank up there with the best work NY has done, but I don't think I'd call it "pedestrian." It's damn good. For one thing, it rocks, and I for one really miss the Crazy Horse-era Neil. This is a pretty close incarnation to that. Give it some time, and I bet it grows on you. (But then, what do I know? I loved Greendale.)

      And, has been stated elsewhere, the material on this album was created in a very spontaneous and fast manner. There's really no production, just a three-piece band with some additional vocals from a choir, and some occasional trumpet. (At least, on first listen, it doesn't sound to me like there are any overdubbed guitars, but I could be wrong.)

      I think the high points far outweigh any of the low.

      -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

      by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:18:50 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  That thing is better than bubble wrap!!! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Lollipops

    there go my Friday night plans

    -- We need more trees and fewer Bushes

    by Sarkasba on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 03:34:39 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for the pic of Bush (0+ / 0-)

    it's fun and funny, thanks again.

  •  Neil Young's his own man (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, peraspera, deepfish, FrankFrink

      Neil Young wrote the anti-Vietnam song "Ohio", about the Kent State murders, and the environmentally oriented "After the Gold Rush", among other anthems (political and non-political). A decade later he was endorsing Ronald Reagan. Perhaps his muse stormed off in disgust because of this, because most of his eighties material isn't very good or inspiring, but "Rockin' In The Free World" in 1989 re-established him as a strong anti-fascism voice, and he enjoyed a remarkable artistic revival after that.

     Oh, Mr. Cavuto, Neil Young is attacking Bush, not America. There's a rather huge difference. But thanks for the free publicity anyway.

    "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

    by Buzzer on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 03:40:55 PM PDT

    •  Correction (8+ / 0-)

      He never "endorsed" Reagan. He made a few positive comments about one or two of his policies and was quoted out of context. This is one of those myths.

      •  Precisely. (12+ / 0-)

        Neil got in an argument with a journalist who, after Neil had contended that he couldn't think of a president who didn't have one or two good ideas down the line (after GWB, Neil may have changed his mind), launched into a blanket attack on Reagan, seemingly only to force Neil into defending him (this was very early in the Reagan admin, if memory serves).  Neil -- who had just gotten off stage and was tired and cranky -- accused the journalist of playing at being rebellious, saying that he was only attacking Reagan because he was in office, and that he'd have used any president no matter who it was.  Neil also said that Reagan had said things that sounded like good ideas, but that he'd done incredibly stupid things in the wake of those statements.  Taking his words out of context, combined with the superficially Reagan-esque tone of his album Hawks and Doves, started the "Neil thinks Reagan's full of good ideas!" meme.  This evolved into "Neil endorses Reagan!" over time.  It's an urban legend that should have been completely dispelled by the Freedom LP.  Neil wasn't endorsing him at all -- he was just trying to be fair and not completely discount Reagan as a human being.  Neil's complex.

        It also helps to keep in mind that, after the critical and commercial success of Rust Never Bleeds and Live Rust, Neil seemed more than willing to be...welll...contrary, to put it mildly.  It was during this period that the Hawks and Doves, Trans, Re-Ac-Tor and Everybody's Rocking album cycle got him sued by Geffen for not making "Neil Young albums."

        •  Not disagreeing... (3+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          javelina, deepfish, FrankFrink

            ...but IIRC Neil Young told Rolling Stone that America "shouldn't have given away the Panama Canal". He is, like you said, complex.

            But thanks for the amplification.

          "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

          by Buzzer on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:58:05 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Well...(trying on Neil's fairness cap) (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            barbwire

            If the worst of us are still capable of having at least one or two good ideas, the best of us are equally capable of having some really intensely lousy ones as well.  I mean, the fact that Human Highway exists more than demonstrates that Neil...er, I mean, Bernard Shakey...is at least as susceptible to Really Intensely Lousy Ideas as anyone. :)

        •  yes, rust doesn't bleed... (0+ / 0-)

          but, as I know you know, it's Rust Never Sleeps. I wonder what caused your Freudian slip there?

          Though "bleeds" is rather poetic in its own right.

          -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

          by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:24:05 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Will it work for me using Safari browser? (0+ / 0-)
    se Explorer on my mac to use the new
    dKos and it won't play.
     I caught Tucker Carlson calling Neil Young a loser
    last night and I just about lost it. Tucker never grew
    up and yells and kicks and screams like a true red
    in the face example of his fellow failing, falling
    fleecers.
                  Can't wait to listen to the songs. Takes
    me many listens to really get a take on some stuff
    and lots of times after the many listens it sounds
    just right, as it should have sounded to me the
    first time.
    •  It works. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      ChemBob, leo joad

      If you don't have the tab with the song playing in the foreground when the song ends, then it won't continue to the next song.  Your best option then is to hit the play button again, and this time when the song gets to the end, make sure the tab playing the song is in the foreground.

      Of course, you could just leave it in the foreground (or perhaps open it in another window -- I haven't tried that).

      Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, & Rice lied to promote an illegal, aggressive war. Hague 'em!

      by Yellow Canary on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:04:08 PM PDT

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  •  Wow (6+ / 0-)

    Impressive as hell. Raw, real, and totally Neil.

    I hope this becomes the soundtrack to the summer of 06.

    "Act as if what you do makes a difference. It does." -- William James

    by BobzCat on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 03:44:20 PM PDT

  •  THANKS! (0+ / 0-)

    Great listen!

  •  My Album Review (10+ / 0-)

    http://rateyourmusic.com/...

    I'm "Barlights" there, you can read everyone's reviews there.

    It's really difficult to review this surprising album. It's sure to be polarizing. Here's my view.

    No one was expecting a new Neil Young album until about a week before this was up streaming on his website. It was written and produced in a fever, supposedly about nine days. It's a immediate work, but one that has legs. Disregarding the content matter of the lyrics, it's clearly Neil's finest hard rock work in years, at least since Freedom or Ragged Glory. Sonically, it sounds like the child of the latter and Mirror Ball. One could easily imagine this being 1994-era Pearl Jam and is heavily guitar-and-drums oriented. Neil's vocals are searing, and the supposed 100-member chorus singing behind him is fairly subdued until the album closer, "America the Beautiful," (which should replace the militaristic "Star-Spangled Banner" as our national anthem) where they take center stage.

    Now to deal with the subject matter. This is a searing indictment of the current administration in the United States of America, and comes about a year-and-a-half too late. This album is bold and anthemic and could have provided a rallying cry. However, many of the topics Neil covers didn't really come to the fore until after the 2004 election.

    Let's deal with the obvious. Yes, Neil is from Canada. he's lived in the US for 35 years, has American kids, an American wife, and is certainly no less an American than Arnold Schwartzenneger. He's clearly someone who loves his adopted country, and who WANTED to get behind the effort to end terrorism. He's the one who came out with the first song after 9/11 to deal directly with it, "Let's Roll," a clear call to unity.

    "America is beautiful," he sings on this album, "but she has an ugly side." Neil tackles both sides in this album, and although I could comment in depth on all the tracks here, for the sake of space, I'd just like to point out two.

    The repeated abuses of power and plain incompetence exhibited by the Bush administration clearly was enough for Mr. Young to finally say to himself, "enough." Nowhere is this clearer than on the seventh track, which is sure to draw more fire than anything else on this album, "Let's Impeach the President." In the most effective part of this song, Neil merely yells out "flip" and "flop" between audio clips, some just weeks old, of George Bush contradcting himself regarding Osama bin Laden, Iraq, and Saddam Hussein. "Let's impeach the President for lying and leading our country into war/Abusing all the power that we gave him, and shipping all our money out the door."  "Let's impeach the President for spying on citizens in their own homes/breaking every law in the country/Tapping our computers and telephones/What if Al Qaeda blew up the levees/Would New Orleans have been safer that way?" It'd sound just like propaganda without the clips of Bush.  Neil doesn't need to indict Bush, he allows Bush to do it himself.

    He follows up that song with a clear call for a change of direction with another brilliant track, "Lookin' for a Leader," where he calls out for "someone straight and strong," and suggests two individuals -  Barack Obama and Colin Powell. "America has a leader," he says, "but he's not in the house."

    To those who will criticize this album simply for the lyrics, you are first of all overlooking the actual brilliance of the album musically. And secondly, I'm going to quote Howard Zinn, from his excellent book, Artists in Times of War:

    "...the words of the Declaration apply not only to people in this country, but also to people all over the world. People everywhere have the same right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. When the government becomes destructive of that, then it is patriotic to dissent and to criticize - to do what we always praise and call heroic when we look upon the dissenters and critics in totalitarian countries who dare to speak out."

    Sometimes the best reflections back on ourselves come from "outsiders." de Toqueville was one, so was Thomas Paine. This album reflects back upon us in the same way as Paine, and is the aural equivalent of Common Sense.

    This is THE album of the year, without a doubt.

    •  I'll bet Neil has (0+ / 0-)

      a lot of guest artists (such as Pearl Jam and others) when he tours this album.
      Props out to Neil!

      "Its a grave digger's song, Praising God and State. So the Nation can live, So we all can remain as cattle. They demand a sacrifice..." -Flipper

      by Skid on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:25:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Colin Powell? (0+ / 0-)
      What the hell?  

      Young isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, is he?  Powell is the archetypical soldier - always in need of someone to order him around.  The idea of him being a leader is preposterous.

      "Birds...scream at the top of their lungs every morning at daybreak to warn us all of the truth...but sadly we don't speak bird." ~Kurt Cobain, Journals

      by Subterranean on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 11:11:10 PM PDT

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  •  Misleading title (14+ / 0-)

    I would appreciate this diary more if it didn't have a misleading title. It's not exactly something that I couldn't imagine really happening, after all.

    I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies..

    by lesliet on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:06:14 PM PDT

  •  FUCKIN' A+! (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, enough, ChemBob, CAL11 voter

    This is some of Neil's finest work.  Reminds me of "Stars and Bars" a little -- raw, from the heart.  I will definitely buy it.  Plus, buying it will reinforce the idea that releasing music free on the Internet isn't a bad business model.    

  •  Whaa?? (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, drsmith131, deepfish, ChemBob

    "Canadian Rocker Neil Young's New Album Attacks America"?

    What up with the BS headline?  I know it's nothing new for Fox, but yeesh - he might attack Bush and the administration, but (and this may be breaking news to them) they are not "America."  Faux idiots.

    "I think we miss that touch so much that we crash into each other, just so we can feel something."

    by Nancy in LA on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:19:02 PM PDT

  •  I hate misleading titles, but (0+ / 0-)

    I loooove that Bush freefall thing, so you get a recommend from me :)

  •  You might want to list (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    fabacube, javelina, Jesterfox

    Media has a monopoly on content. Bust the monopoly, good things happen.

    by Jim P on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:26:31 PM PDT

    •  one problem with that... (0+ / 0-)

      I think Pink's song is great, but in case you didn't notice, the poll is about the songs on the album. I don't think Pink's song is included in this new Neil Young album, but I could be wrong.

      -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

      by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:30:35 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Let's impeach the RESIDENT for (0+ / 0-)

    sadism, torture, rape, genocide, lies, arrogantly justified by invoking the word "God."

    Please impeach him before he gets his gulags in place.  

    Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

    by Einsteinia on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:31:59 PM PDT

  •  Hmm... Well I guess the revolution (6+ / 0-)

    is going to be partially televised after all.

  •  request (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Rita in DC, Raddark, ybruti

    Please change your misleading subject heading for this diary. I felt misled when I read it and then realized it was only for publicity.

    "... are they this great America? this poor scum that has floated somehow into the presidency?" -- Walt Whitman

    by godotnut on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:41:40 PM PDT

  •  Listening and typing (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    eve

    It's been a long week, but I finally figured out I can open Firefox 2x, duh ... anyhow, 2nd listen today.  I still love "After the Garden."

    It's not that easy to be an artist and be political and not lose quality to polemic, but, thank heavens, a lot of 20th/21st musicians have managed just fine.  Have loved Neil Young since I first heard him telling me that there is a town in North Ontario, and that four were dead in O-hi-o, and love him still.

    The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. - Thomas Paine

    by javelina on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:43:46 PM PDT

  •  Neil Young Loves America (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, ChemBob

    No one ever wrote a song urging Clinton's impeachment!

  •  So Neil Young criticizes the president, (9+ / 0-)

    and then Fox News says he criticized America. Leave it to Fox News to try to trick people into thinking that two different things are one and the same thing. No wonder the people who watch it are so confused.

    Republicans are liars.

    by tr4nqued on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:48:57 PM PDT

  •  First thing you do (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    UniC, enough, ChemBob, FrankFrink

    when you overthrow a dictatorship is dismantle the state media!

  •  Can't ever beat the power of 4 Dead in O Hi O (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    FrankFrink

    George W Bush - Plame Duck President

    by T u g on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:54:14 PM PDT

  •  They also confused (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ChemBob

    writing a song about 9/11 and attacking Al Qaeda as pro-Iraq!!

  •  Best Neil Young Song Ever.... (0+ / 0-)

    "Keep On Rocking In The Free World"

  •  Hey Cavuto... (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    STOP George, eve, bheuvel67, ChemBob

    First you'd have to find an American with teh same artistic talent, poetic voice, prophetic stature, and musical accomplishments as Neil... Difficult, but not impossible.

    Then you'd have to find one with something nasty to say about Canada. Very difficult, but not outside the realm of probability...

    ...and this figure of an American would also have to know enough about Canada to give a fuck enough to get morally exercised about it...

    Not a chance in hell, Fox-boy!

    LOL

    DFooK

    "Strange and beautiful are the stars tonight / That dance around your head"

    by deepfish on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 04:57:16 PM PDT

  •  I love these Fox guys (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    eru

    They just can't wait to associate any opposition to the Chimp with criminal anti-America behavior.

    It's OK. We return the favor: we will forever associate Fox with the criminal behavior of the Chimp. Aided, abetted, created by Fox News.

  •  One Motherfucker of a Protest CD (5+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    gerbbils, javelina, enough, ChemBob, dannyinla

    That was a headline I read earlier this week on one of the blogs when they reviewed Living With War.  I have to admit there is no more poignant a way to describe this masterpiece than with those words.

    I started streaming the CD at 2:30 this afternoon when I first saw the link on Mike Moore's site and I have not been able to get away from my computer since then.  This is by far the best collection of socially evocative music I have heard since Buffalo Springfield and Neil Young and Country Joe and the rest more than 35 years ago.

    This is one of the single most important days in my late middle age life! This morning my Congressman Jim Moran was one of the courageous "Sudan Five" who was arrested at the Sudanese Embassy and now Neil Young's CD this afternoon.  The only way it will get better than this is to see the Shrub standing at the foot of the steps to Helicopter One waving in a V for victory wave like that crooked son of a bitch Nixon did 32 years ago this August.

    Tuesday when the CD goes on sale I'll be waiting outside the door of the music store at Ballston Mall waiting for their 10 am opening. I'm buying two copies of the CD and promptly mailing one to Bush. I dont want him or Laura to have an excuse for ever saying they didnt have a chance to listen to the CD like they claimed they didnt have time to watch Farenheit 911.

    Go Neil Young....and Lets Impeach the motherfucker.

    •  I got a similar feeling (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      OWTH

      a couple of months before the election when I saw the Kerry documentary.  All that '60's stuff came back and the soundtrack had "Cut My Hair" from Deja Vu and Hendrix doing "Machine Gun".  And we had a hero Vietnam Vet who came home and protested with all the hippies against the war.  And he was going to be our next President.  I think I skipped home from the movie theatre.

      So much for that...

      As much as I love Neil Young, what we really need is this generations rock stars to step up.  (And hip-hop and country..)  It is happeneing, a little late and not enough yet to permeate college campuses, but that is where real revolutions always start.

      "Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play." - Joseph Goebbels

      by gerbbils on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:45:16 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The monstrosity that is Cavuto (0+ / 0-)

    Not fair! Diarists should provide a clear warning before exposing us to Cavuto's monstrous head (which matches his monstrous politics).

    A liberal is a conservative who's been hugged. http://www.actblue.com/...

    by raatz on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:10:31 PM PDT

  •  Stop with the false sensationalist headlines! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Rita in DC, Raddark

    And then going 'No not really'. It's an *hole thing to do. It weakens the value of looking at dkos.

  •  Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Gordon Lightfoot, (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, kishik, FrankFrink

    Leonard Cohen.  Do we now count Jesse Winchester as well?

    Yep, let's send 'em all packing.  We must harden the borders.  Jam their radio and TV stations.  Make the Internet domestic only, controlled by US corporations....

    Oh, wait, Congress is already working on that last one.

  •  Damn dial-up connection (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Esjaydee

    Damn, damn damn!

    mali principi malus fini -8.88 -5.08

    by SecondComing on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:17:21 PM PDT

  •  I'm so glad to see this recommended! (8+ / 0-)

    The more controversy about it the better. If O'Reilly, Hannity and their ilk start trashing "Living With War",  next thing you know, the average American will be aware of it, and perhaps join us for a rousing chorus of "Let's Impeach The President For Lying!" As liberals, we need to reach the quiet liberals and let them know that they're not alone, isloated or crazy. This record could do that.

  •  Damn activist Canadians! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    FrankFrink, Zwoof

    Oh wait - I resemble that remark....

    Although, in this vein, have you checked out the editorial that Jackson Browne put to Lives in the Balance? I had almost forgotten how much I like that song....

    http://video.jacksonbrowne.com/...

    Damn activist Americans! ;)

    LIVES IN THE BALANCE

    I've been waiting for something to happen
    For a week or a month or a year
    With the blood in the ink of the headlines
    And the sound of the crowd in my ear
    You might ask what it takes to remember
    When you know that you've seen it before
    Where a government lies to a people
    And a country is drifting to war

    And there's a shadow on the faces
    Of the men who send the guns
    To the wars that are fought in places
    Where their business interest runs

    On the radio talk shows and the T.V.
    You hear one thing again and again
    How the U.S.A. stands for freedom
    And we come to the aid of a friend
    But who are the ones that we call our friends--
    These governments killing their own?
    Or the people who finally can't take any more
    And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone
    There are lives in the balance
    There are people under fire
    There are children at the cannons
    And there is blood on the wire

    There's a shadow on the faces
    Of the men who fan the flames
    Of the wars that are fought in places
    Where we can't even say the names

    They sell us the President the same way
    They sell us our clothes and our cars
    They sell us every thing from youth to religion
    The same time they sell us our wars
    I want to know who the men in the shadows are
    I want to hear somebody asking them why
    They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
    But they're never the ones to fight or to die
    And there are lives in the balance
    There are people under fire
    There are children at the cannons
    And there is blood on the wire

    I'm too damn old to know everything anymore. but what I DO know I'm pretty sure of.

    by zeppomarx on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:18:43 PM PDT

  •  Bush is America? (4+ / 0-)
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    drsmith131, ChemBob, eru, FrankFrink

    Just like those brainless twits at Fox to conflate Bush with America and vice versa... As Mark Twain once reminded us:

    “...the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse.”

  •  The falling George (0+ / 0-)

    would be even funnier if it were OIL BARRELS instead of bubbles.

    "Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers." Voltaire

    by Esjaydee on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 05:42:33 PM PDT

  •  listened twice (0+ / 0-)

    fucking good songs and album a concept album impeach the president families u.s.a. pretty damn good who's got tickets? gonna be a kick ass tour...Yeah Neil kicking ass after all these years i mean kicking ass fighting the age old battle main street flags freedom flying church bells guitar ringing from Ontario up through Westside Hell Blasted marching listening to Dylan Bob fly fly away

    p.s. fucking funny animation i mean hilarious!

  •  Neil Young supports recycling (0+ / 0-)

    Shock and Awe = Hey Hey, My My

  •  JIMMY HOFFA FOUND (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, eru

    I think a better title for this diary, considering the headline in that FOX News picture, would have been "America Under Attack."  Those Fox News idiots are actually calling a song an attack!

    Thanks for the link to the album, I hadn't heard The Song yet.

  •  flippin the spinner (0+ / 0-)

    Great way to relax after work, listening to good music and flippin the spinner.

  •  Great freaking review of LWW from a participant (4+ / 0-)

    Is The Wave Of The Future An Old Hand From The Past? Neil Young Shows How It's Done.

    The choir was put together by the legendary Rosemary Butler, arguably the most famous backup singer in music history (and a formidable lead singer and producer in her own right), having sung with the likes of Jackson Browne, James Taylor, and Bonnie Raitt, to name only a few. In a day she managed to round up 100 of LA's most respected session singers and assemble them the next morning at Capitol Records. I was fortunate enough to be included in that august company, and as we milled around the studio, greeting old friends and getting coffeed up in preparation for what looked like a long day ahead (we were booked from 10 in the morning till 10 at night), we had no idea what was in store for us. But as we sorted ourselves into sections ("Where are the altos? Are you going to sing soprano? Do we have enough baritones?"), the words to the first song, "After the Garden", flashed up on the video projection screen ("Don't need no shadow man - running the government - don't need no stinking war") and it instantly became more than just another session. We gasped as we realized that this was a protest record, and not just an ordinary one (if there is such a thing), but one that had the potential to galvanize the nation and give voice to those who have not been listened to in the 21st century.

    ... click

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:00:36 PM PDT

    •  Whoa, so much fun to read - thanks! (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      bumblebums, eru

      Like one of Alicia's commenters, I loved it when she says the gospel contingent had to hold back because it wouldn've been so easy to just go wild.  She does note that the effort is audible at the end of "Impeach the President."

      I look forward to screaming along sometime this summer.  Assuming we've all got jobs at our house and can buy tickets (sigh).

      On 3rd listen.  Still happy.

      The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. - Thomas Paine

      by javelina on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:10:40 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I hate diary titles (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Sally in SF, Rita in DC, gmhowell

    like this.  

    AND NOW, today's White House press gaggle, with more Snow and Les Kinsolving.

    by GOTV on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:02:13 PM PDT

  •  Heard 'Shock and Awe' (5+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, jwgarp, eru, SherriG, CAL11 voter

    on the way to work this morning.

    Fucking awesome. I gotta get this album.

    Street Prophets: where the cookies live now...

    by pastordan on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:03:34 PM PDT

  •  God damn it! (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, SherriG, CAL11 voter

    Titles like this give me fucking heart attacks!  I thought, oh no - censorship has hit its zenith and my heart fell to my feet.

    But I appreciate the reminder to listen as I've had the link sent to me from a zillion different sources, including True Majority which is also streaming the album.  I don't yet what my favorite one is.  I'm listening to them now.  So far, I like the fact that it sounds like the Neil from my younger days, as in 'After the Gold Rush' or 'Harvest' and yeah I know, I'm showing my age.

    I'm now on 'Families' and I'm sure liking this album.  
    So, I'll take the poll when I'm finished listening...

    We Need REGIME CHANGE

  •  OK, I don't think I have (0+ / 0-)

    a favorite.  In their own right, each one is so powerful and emotional.  I was going to vote for 'Let's Impeach the President' just because I really, really want that to happen, but the truth is, each song is just so hard hitting.  So, since you didn't give an option for liking all of them, I'll pass on the poll!

    We Need REGIME CHANGE

  •  Let's go buy all (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jwgarp

    the Neil Young CD's we can get our hands on,new and old titles! Make the sales go through the roof in support of Neil! I am going to. Spread the word ;)

    (-7.50 -6.31) Preventive war is like committing suicide out of the fear of death - Bismarck

    by arkdem on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:29:51 PM PDT

  •  Overall I give it an 8. Good beat, (0+ / 0-)

    not too easy to dance to.  I was inspired by the America the Beautiful song.  And I'm no patriot.  But wouldn't it be nice if the government did not embarras us?

    Not to quibble, but his choices for leader in Lookin' for a Leader, leave a lot to be desired.  Colin Powell???  Barak Obama???  He is too busy cozing up to the DLC.  I least he did not mention Hillary.

    P.S. Why did he support Reagan?

    •  he didn't support Reagan... (0+ / 0-)

      not really. And that myth has been debunked upthread, so I won't get into it here.

      As for the Colin Powell line, I need to listen again, but it's entirely possible that it was meant ironically.

      On the other hand, if Colin Powell were to completely, vigorously renounce the Bush Administration and all of its policies, renounce the Republican Party, and admit to his many mistakes made on behalf of the fascist bastards, and join the Democratic Party... I don't know if I'd want him for a "leader," but at least I'd have some respect for him. I still consider him to be a notch above the rest of those criminals.

      -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

      by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:47:56 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  The Powell reference... (0+ / 0-)

      "Maybe it's Obama, but he thinks that he's too young
      Maybe Colin Powell, to right what he's done wrong."

      I think the point is that if Powell had a complete change of heart, realized the damage he'd done and attempted to fix things, he might be worthy of consideration.  But only if he meets that strict condition.  It's not a "rally 'round Colin" message, but more along the lines of "it may not be too late for this guy to save himself and prove himself worthy of respect, but let's keep looking anyway."

  •  Great music and words... (0+ / 0-)

    Didn't listen to whole recording due to that I have crappy speakers on the computer.  Will buy in AM.  Thank you!

    "It's the Government, we're hear to help you."

    by Friend of the court on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 06:34:41 PM PDT

  •  Track #4 Has Counterbalanced 'Let's Roll' (0+ / 0-)

    for me.

    "Shock and Awe" is pretty damn good.  Sounds suspiciously like "Hey Hey, My My," though.

  •  America the Beautiful (0+ / 0-)

    made me start sobbing, instantly.  I didn't expect that reaction!

    I voted for "Let's Impeach the President".  It's fun to sing along!

  •  Oh God - Best Therapy I've Ever Had (0+ / 0-)

    is that bush bubble thingy!!!!

  •  Thanks for the album (0+ / 0-)

    I enjoyed it!

    I wish that "Let's Impeach the President" could become a hit but don't think it will get much air time.

    This above all: to thine own self be true...-WS

    by Agathena on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 07:47:20 PM PDT

  •  I am The FOH Sound Engineer (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    essexgreen

    For a band that is going to be playing at the Kennedy's "Best Buddies" Charity Event in Hyannisport, MA. I am also the bands Production Manager. I WILL be playing this CD as "Walk In" and "Walk Out" music for the Concert. Teddy and all of the "Best Buddies" are going to be hearing this in three weeks at that show.

    "LOOKING FOR A LEADER" is the one that rocks my world.

    "ROGER AND OUT" is the "real" neal young song on this album though. Fucking Brilliant.

  •  webmaster please add a link to this on the page (0+ / 0-)

    It's not a sacrifice to pay more in taxes so our brave boys have what they need, it's a privilege. FDR

    by mississippi scott on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 08:11:17 PM PDT

  •  OMG TEH AMERICA IS UNDER TEH ATTACK!!!1!1ONE!1! (0+ / 0-)

    Someone's got to publicly cockpunch these people.

    Please.  Anyone.

    Reclaim Democracy: It's not just politics - it's economics, too

    by EconAtheist on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 08:41:32 PM PDT

  •  Mr. Young is a U.S. Citizen... (0+ / 0-)

    ...has been a U.S. citizen for several decades.

    Good for US!

    Why do people insist on following that damn chicken across that bloody road?

    by MT Spaces on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 08:57:01 PM PDT

    •  no, he's not (0+ / 0-)

      as I said upthread, it doesn't matter to me in the least, but he's not actually a citizen of the US. He's a legal resident with a greencard, but he's never gotten citizenship, for whatever reason.

      -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

      by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:50:27 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Neil Young Trivia.... BITCH! (0+ / 0-)

    While much is known about Rick James' "Super Freak" period, relatively little is known about the period during the 1960's when he formed a band known as the Mynah Birds with Neil Young, Goldie McJohn (later of Steppenwolf) and Bruce Palmer (later of Buffalo Springfield). The name of the band Mynah Birds was apparently a takeoff of the well known folk-rock band The Byrds.

    Betcha didn't know that one... and I have friends who remember their crazy shows at the Flamingo Club in Fort William (Thunder Bay). A teenaged Paul Shaffer jammed with them one night.

    There's your timberland tale for tonight!

    the blue sea seethes with reason

    by howth of murph on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 09:37:47 PM PDT

    •  whoa... (0+ / 0-)

      you are correct, I'd never heard that. A link to your source, please?

      I'm trying to picture Rick James singing on "Farmer John" and I just can't see it... ;-)

      -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

      by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:52:12 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Bullshit. (0+ / 0-)

    No one said that he should but out when he wrote "Let's Roll".

  •  Just listened all the way through... (0+ / 0-)

    In a word: Awesome. Just when I thought Neil was losing his touch, he pulls me back in...

    •  what made you think... (0+ / 0-)

      he was "losing his touch?" Prairie Wind is a fine album, and Greendale had its moments.

      I do like that he's taken up the Crazy Horse sound again, though.

      -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

      by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:53:37 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Neil Young kicks major ass! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    CAL11 voter

    I couldn't believe how good this album is.
    Young was inspired when he wrote these tunes.
    I hope it gets major play in the corporate mainstream media and thousands of young people turn on to caring about our country.

    "In a system of immense power, small differences can translate into large outcomes." Chomsky

    by formernadervoter on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 10:16:01 PM PDT

  •  I knew this would happen sooner or later (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    bheuvel67, Curlew

    that somebody would come out with the definitive anti-Bush album. I should have known it would be Neil.

    There were hints of this on last year's album, "Prairie Wind," which had several songs with slight environmental/political themes. My sig is from one of them. The press wrote about how the album was a tribute to his father, who had recently died, but the album was much deeper than that.

    And now, "Living with War." I got emotional listening to it this morning. "Yes!" I shouted out to no one, alone in my office. "Yes, finally! Someone did it!"

    The posters on this thread dissing Neil for "shilling for Bush" and supporting Reagan have no idea what they are talking about. It's like saying that Al Gore invented the internet- an out-of-context statement blown up into some kind of definitive description. The press ran with Neil's Reagan comments in the 80's because he wrote "Ohio," one of the definitive protest songs of the 70's, and was in the group that did one of the definitive protest songs of the 60's, "For What it's Worth." It made good copy: "Protest Rocker Changes Tune!"

    And as for him being Canadian, he's lived in CA for over 40 years. His wife and kids are American. I think he's earned the right to comment on his adopted country.

    Neil Young is a patriot, plain and simple. He speaks his mind, and sometimes it's not what some people want to hear. Obviously not what Fucknuts Cavuto wanted to hear. Must have been a slow news day, since he couldn't report on Druggie Limbaugh's arrest- house policy.

    Somewhere a senator sits behind a big wooden desk...he took his money just like all the rest- Neil Young

    by ctami on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 11:43:43 PM PDT

  •  Thanks (0+ / 0-)

    You made it so easy to find Neil Young tonight.

    "Don't need no more lies"

    YES

    I want to hear it on the radio.

  •  I really really dig that trumpet! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    wizardofOZ

    Does anyone else?

    Like the magnificent choir in the background and Neil's voice -- it creates such a sublime intimate "down to earth" quality.

    Dammit! Words fail me here.  Does anyone else here love that trumpet?

    Can we wait even a SECOND longer? SEE GRAPHIC...

    by STOP George on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 12:48:32 AM PDT

  •  Let's Impeach the President (0+ / 0-)

    I've listened to this album about 6 times now -- and it get's better everytime.

    I still get goosebumps with "Let's Impeach the President".

    I can't wait to hear a spontaneous outburst of this song at a highly choreographed GOP event.  That will be a truly iconic moment in history -- rivalling the Vietnam days.  I truly hope I see it!

    Can we wait even a SECOND longer? SEE GRAPHIC...

    by STOP George on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:41:17 AM PDT

  •  I listened twice in a row and had tears of (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Curlew, CAL11 voter
    remembrance and of despair and of hope.

    Then I had an idea to buy 10 when it comes out and leave the CDs on park and bus benches. My laptop speakers are lousy, and I'm personally lousy for what might be a diary highjacking, but I'm not sure what a diary highjacking is, so there.

    BUY THIS ALBUM. Then buy as many more copies as you can afford to and give them away.

    •  Very good point! (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      not lois

      This album contains a wide spectrum of emotions.  Without hope, there's apathy.  As much as it is a stunning protest album -- it's also a confirmation that America STILL can be as beutiful as it once was or once aspired to be.

      Can we wait even a SECOND longer? SEE GRAPHIC...

      by STOP George on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:54:57 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Targeting Who Gets Extra CDs You Buy (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      not lois

      I did the same thing when the DVD for Farenheit 911 came out.  I purchased one for my personal use and purchased 5 more DVDs that I gave away. Only I targeted who received the DVDs.  Each one of them was given to a known or suspected Bush supporter.  One of them, the woman in the office next to me returned to my office the following Monday and said she had tears in her eyes all weekend after seeing the movie.  The best result was her saying "you've changed me."  That translated into one more vote in our column that November, and it also translated into one more lightbulb flickering on in the brain of a former Bush supporter.

      So, if you know any suspected Repugnicans give them the CD rather than leaving them on buses etc.  Damn. Wish I had enough cash to buy one for every news whore at Faux News.

  •  Gen X listeners? (0+ / 0-)

    As a member of Gen X, I do not really want to listen to the whole album from start to finish. I'm not a fan and the first couple somgs I did not like much. I want to hear Impeach the President. Is there some way I can do this without having to wade through the whole album?

    •  I've heard others (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      enough, Curlew

      say that they've recorded the whole album on their computer and then played "Impeach The President" over and over again.

      That's what others say, anyhow.

      Give the whole album a listen a couple of times before you make any judgements, though.  It's a beautiful piece of work in it's entirety.

      It grows on you by leaps and bounds.

      Can we wait even a SECOND longer? SEE GRAPHIC...

      by STOP George on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 03:04:06 AM PDT

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    •  I am SO excited that GENERATION X'ers just... (2+ / 0-)
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      omfreebogart, OWTH

      don't get much.  That is why we don't have STREET PROTESTS...

      They want instant gratification and don't want to plan or DO...can't fast forward to a 'good feeling', they walk away!

      •  Barbara, I think you're harshing on thiebes a bit (3+ / 0-)
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        Different musical taste doesn't mean lack of political involvement.  You're extrapolating from -

        "I didn't like the first two songs and I don't think I'm really going to like this album, but I really want to listen to the song you're all talking about"

        to -

        "I have attention deficit disorder and can't stick with anything."

        Not fair.  To provide an admittedly ridiculous counter-example, I would have a very, very hard time making it through half a Captain & Tenille album to get to one song.

        The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. - Thomas Paine

        by javelina on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 06:22:27 AM PDT

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    •  A link to high-quality download (0+ / 0-)

      of the whole album is here:

      http://rapidshare.de/...

      Beats the hell out of me how someone got ahold of an entire CD-quality version and put it on the web so soon, but there it is.

      Get it quick, though, if you want it.

      I'm buying a couple copies myself ASAP, regardless.

      ""Has George yet realized he'll still be a miserable failure on January 21, 2009?""

      by Ostendo Mihi on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:43:06 PM PDT

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      •  And just 'Let's Impeach the President' (0+ / 0-)

        can be found here, possibly. AfterDowningStreet has a link:
        http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/...

        ""Has George yet realized he'll still be a miserable failure on January 21, 2009?""

        by Ostendo Mihi on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 02:58:57 PM PDT

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      •  this is very, very troubling (0+ / 0-)

        this site looks like it's attempting to make money off of music that Neil Young has provided for free streaming.

        -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

        by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 03:01:39 PM PDT

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        •  Nope, its free (0+ / 0-)

          and the only money rapidshare makes from a free download is ad revenue. It's a good way to be able to skip ahead to songs you want to hear.

          ""Has George yet realized he'll still be a miserable failure on January 21, 2009?""

          by Ostendo Mihi on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 05:15:27 PM PDT

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          •  I tried the 'free' download (0+ / 0-)

            and was unable to open the .rar file (using ExtractNow, which opens such files). It told me I needed a password to open the file. Tried to download it again, and was told I'd have to buy the "premium" service to do so.

            If you have any idea what I did wrong, I'd appreciate some suggestions. First time I've encountered an .rar file, and ExtractNow was the only freeware I found that opened this type of file.

            Whoever it is who uploaded the album (and again, it's an unauthorized use of it), could just have easily uploaded the songs as MP3 files, or one big MP3 file. If you're going to give away something you have no business giving away, at least make it a little easier to get it.

            -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

            by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 06:19:19 PM PDT

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  •  Go, Neil Young!!! (0+ / 0-)

    Yeah! This album is amazing! Thank you Neil for your offer!!

    Oh, and the game with Georgie is excellent, too!!
    Kids, let's have some fun!!!

    "I can't change the world, but I can change the world inside of me"

    by genius on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 06:56:35 AM PDT

  •  I've had it on for 4 hours now (0+ / 0-)

    Can't stop listening.  Can't wait to buy it so I can go straight to my favorites.

  •  Neil Young sucks (0+ / 1-)
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    snookybeh

    Listen to Immortal Technique

    The 4th Branch lyrics

    The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish
    A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist
    Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond
    And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran
    They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam
    When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran
    This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings
    Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings
    I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish
    The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ
    You murdered him, stole his religion, and painted him white
    Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy
    Conservative political right wing, ideology
    Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation
    Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination
    Guantanamo Bay, federal incarceration
    How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave?
    Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
    Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
    You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism?
    Human rights violations, we continue the saga
    El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua
    And on top of that, you still wanna take me to prison
    Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism

    •  hmmm... (0+ / 0-)

      if you don't like Neil Young, that's your choice. But using this thread to hawk another band while saying that he "sucks" is pretty bush league. (Pardon the pun.)

      I'm guessing you're connected to this band in some fashion. Regardless, if your intent was to get someone to click on the link and check out the band, saying something like "Hey, here's another artist doing good politically-oriented music" might have made me bite. But when someone latches onto a thread like a parasite and disses the subject, forget it - I ain't even gonna look.

      -8.25, -6.26 "Joe Scarborough - not retarded. Tucker Carlson? Jury's still out." - Stephen Colbert

      by snookybeh on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 03:08:33 PM PDT

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