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Inconvenient Truth


After the flip is a carefully selected excerpt of a transcript from the April 25th Q&A with VP Al Gore which immediately followed a sneak peek of the movie "An Inconvenient Truth".  In the interest of full disclosure and impartiality: I have none.  I just love the guy.  After the Q&A I was able to meet him, share that, and learn that on occasion, he enjoyed visiting Truth & Progress where the transcript is finally posted in full.

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For some technical reason I still don't comprehend, posting the MP3 of the Q&A nearly shut down T&P so about a week ago I set out to transcribe this 45 minute chat.  If you've never done this before, let me just tell you that it's a rather intimate experience.  I am a better person for it though, and can easily recite any of what you'll see below.  But the more I listened to Al's voice, over and over, the more I could hear his passion, his conviction, and I felt how deeply he cares for our country and planet.  I can assure you that "this" is not about Al.  How unfortunate for the American tradgedy we all suffered when his presidency failed to materialize.  Although this transcript is not official in any way, I'm eager to share this sage wisdom and perspective, tendered by a man who life experience has left uniquely qualified and, in fact, over-qualified to govern.

 

Keep in mind this is not a speech.  These are unscripted responses to random questions.  Read the whole thing if you can, see the movie with friends (June 2nd), and internalize his vision so you can be the change you wish to see.

Excerpted:

I do believe that our conversation of democracy in America is broken.  I think that our democracy has been hollowed out, desiccated, and I think that the nature of the public forum in which public dialogue occurs has been radically transformed.


In the 1780's when the most literate generation in history began a revolution here in Boston and in Concord and then when they met in Philadelphia and when they formed this young nation, they spoke in paragraphs.  They were very mindful of the necessity of communicating with an informed citizenry; complex ideas.  The Federalist Papers appeared as newspaper essays contemporaneous with those debates.  There were 24 other essay series printed in newspapers all over the colonies at the same time. That public forum was a two-way conversation.  


Thomas Paine never went to school but he wrote the Harry Potter of the 18th century, an essay called "On Common Sense".  And it became so popular because it entered a meritocracy of ideas, accessible to individuals both to take out and to contribute.  Now that doesn't work the same way anymore.  It's been forty years since the majority of Americans got their information from the printed word.  That's when the television took over as the dominant source.  And now it's so dominant that even in the internet age, the average American watches four hours and thirty nine minutes of television every day. That's a lot.  That's up four minutes from last year.  We're second only to the Japanese who watch it five hours a day.  And behind us are the Argentineans.  And what those three countries have in common is a public policy process that's catatonic and marked by sequential catastrophic mistakes because people are not a constant full participant in the dialogue.  The people are informed about Barry Bonds steroids and about NASCAR and about all the sports and about the gossip, and etc.  (whisper:  Hey we're missing American Idol)  But the dialogue of Democracy that was at the heart of the American Revolution and the American Idea is very different today.  


So when a complex idea must that be dealt with by absorbing a lot of facts and projecting their implications into the future and then taking difficult steps now in order to protect against those future consequences.  When that kind of dialogue is urged upon us today it runs into a head wind of all the trivialities and distractions that now fractionate the public's consciousness.  We are bowling alone in Robert Putnam's phrase partly because of the same phenomena.  Kindergarten teachers are finding more speech pathology among entering kindergarteners because, they say, the children are not talking to their parents as much because they're watching television.  Families are not eating dinner [together] for the same reason.


In other words, here we are with two crises.  A Climate crisis and a Democracy crisis.  And we have to fix both of them.  We can.  The internet is beginning to bring changes in the way we communicate and just in time.  We have to also rely upon what we have always relied upon, our freedoms, our individual ability to be actively involved in bringing about change.


And we shouldn't, by the way, just focus on presidential elections, because while my party was doing that, the Republicans took over the country at the grassroots level. I believe that this issue is one that must be addressed in its own right for such urgent reasons.  But in the process of addressing it I do believe that we will find the ability to see other challenges that now masquerade as political controversies and see them really as moral issues



Let me just close with this.  


There's an old cliché about the way the Chinese write the word crisis.  They use two symbols in tandem. The first by itself means danger.  The second means opportunity.   Our word just conveys usually the danger part of it but there is tremendous opportunity in rising to meet this crisis.  The danger is real and unprecedented and breaking through America's category five denial involves communicating clearly what the danger really is.  But is equally important, maybe more important, once that wall of denial is broken so that light flows through it, to convey what that opportunity is.  And the opportunity is not just to build much better technologies and have new jobs and higher incomes and new economic opportunities. All of those things are real.  But there is another opportunity that larger than all of those.  And it is this.


Few generations have the opportunity to have a shared moral purpose.  A focus that is worthy enough to empower us to put aside more of the bitterness and bickering that we are vulnerable to getting bound up in and lost in.  The generation of my parents was called "The Greatest Generation" because they had such a moral challenge from fascism in the Pacific and the Atlantic.  They rose to meet that challenge successfully.  And here's what happened.  When they did they gained a moral vision and the ability to put in place the Marshall Plan and to convince the taxpayers to pay for it.   Seriously.  And to launch the United Nations and to lay the foundation for what became fifty years of peace and prosperity. We coasted for a long time.  That vision articulated by Omar Graveley for one who said, "It's time we steered by the light of the stars and not by the lights of each passing ship." That vision came from the opportunity they had after rising to meet that challenge to see clearly what was happening.    


Now here we are, and we have HIVAIDS and twenty million orphans on the continent of Africa alone and we have famines, incipient famines, and grinding poverty, and tens of millions of deaths from easily preventable diseases.  And a series of economic and environmental crises and extinction crises and all of these now masquerade as political conundrums.  You say, "Oh it's just so tough.  It's so hard to deal with."


As we rise to meet this challenge successfully we will gain the moral vision to see other  challenges for what they really are.  Moral issues, ethical issues, spiritual issues with accessible solutions if we have the will to do it.  And as I said, the only thing we need is political will and that is a renewable resource.


Thank you for coming.

No, VP Al Gore, Thank YOU.

Originally posted to lale on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:10 AM PDT.

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  •  Please read Al's words at least twice (143+ / 0-)
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    •  Having attended the same presentation (62+ / 0-)

      I can confirm not only the words, but the passion behind them, and the sincerity with which he spoke them.  No doubt nearly all he said was virtually from memory, as he's been making these presentations so frequently, and thinking so much about these issues, that it's second nature to him.  But what I think is important for Democrats to understand, at least in the context of all the renewed speculation about Gore's political future, is that he conveys these views with the eloquence and wisdom of a seasoned statesman, not the pandering or equivocation of a traditional politician.  The Al Gore whom I saw was as impressive as any JFK or FDR as a speaker, and I think that could readily come across to the general public if he chooses to re-enter the electoral arena.

      Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set... -- Gandalf

      by dnta on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:48:19 AM PDT

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    •  Wow! (14+ / 0-)

      and Wow again!

      So inspiring. Just what the Dr. Ordered. A politician who cares, that has Vision and Intelligence.

      I am so impressed. Oh how our  countries wounds cry out for this salve. And I so agree, our politics are broken.

      inspire change...don't back down

      by missliberties on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:40:44 AM PDT

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    •  The fact that Gore is running... (9+ / 0-)

      ...by now is obvious to everyone on Dailykos except, apparently, Markos.

      •  Not apparent to me... (12+ / 0-)

        Again, are you intimating his concern and passion for this issue is just a ruse? That the sincere passionate words above are just a front? Do you find him to be so shallow in this regard that he would go through all of this time and expense and years of putting this presentation together, simply for a selfish goal? He has even claimed himself that if you look in every state in this country there is absolutely no appratus whatsoever in place regarding a political run for office. There is a bigger picture to this, and as he has stated many times, keep your eye on the prize. That prize is our planet. It has always been about the greater good to him. Such a shame so many still do not see that in him.

        •  Thanks, Patriot, for your perspective. (13+ / 0-)

          But I humbly disagree with your characterization of taking on the presidency in these horrible times as a "selfish goal."  Any Democrat who wins the election (if it's held fairly) in 2008 will face such overwhelming problems, only a hero would want to take on the job.  In fact, I would characterize Al Gore's acceptance of the job as the ultimate heroic, unselfish act of all time.  

          My concern, thanks to you, is whether or not it would serve his message of salvation of our planet for him to suffer the slings and arrows of the corrupt "others" who will do everything in their power to stop him.  Obviously, oil companies have the most to lose if Al Gore is successful in getting out his message.  

          May he live long and prosper and, I'm sure, he will choose to do what's best for us all because that's the kind of hero he is.

          •  Agree to a point (0+ / 0-)

            but in the context of my response to the person I responded to, it wasn't mean as you obviously interpreted it. There is a contigent here that constantly intimates he is only doing this movie with that motive in mind as if this is a way to get "revenge", and that is false. That was what I meant by the word selfish. I also believe had he felt this strongly about running he would have done so in 2004. I don't see much if any difference in the political landscape regarding being a candidate now as compared to then.

            •  Gore's role.... (2+ / 0-)
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              could be as a candidate. But what some forget is that he is talking passionately about things he's talked about for years. I doubt seriously that he would consider compromising his positions for the sake of power now. He doesn't need it. He could be a very good candidate for us in 2008....far better than he was in 2000. HOWEVER, he could also have other roles in our political life or in the coming Democratic administration. I have commented to several folks recently that Gore could very likely be this generation's Adali Stevenson. Think about Stevenson's contributions to political discourse in the 1950s & early 1960s and his role at the UN.

              Al Gore can be valuable to this country in many roles. And, yes, I could easily support him in 2008. But maybe there's someone out there whom we've not thought much about yet. A lot can happen between now and the start of the presidential campaigns.

              •  Beg your pardon (6+ / 0-)
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                But being this generation's Adlai Stevenson is to diminish Al Gore.  

                Stevenson was a brilliant and articulate man--much like Kennedy, minus the telegenic personality and youthful features.  But ultimately, his was a tragic career.  At the UN in 1962, he presented JFK's case for the quarentine of Cuba, a high point of his tenure.  But for my generation, Stevenson's back-to-back losses (52 and 56)  represented a crushing loss,a horrible wrong turn in American history. And what was tragic is that this fine man never had an arena large enough to engage fully his energy and talent.  He died in relative obscurity in 1965 in London.  He had a stroke and collapsed on a sidewalk.  

                Gore has already been there;  his re-emergence tells me that his career is not over, but really might just be starting.  

                Supreme Court justice, cabinet officer, senator, you name it, Al would excell. But the presidency is the only office suitable for his talent and vision.  

                •  Al Gore is such a tragic figure (0+ / 0-)

                  that, I think the comparison is appropriate.

                  Given the success of the Clinton presidency, I honestly believe that had we run any other Democrat (alive or dead) that we would have won in a landslide.

                  I am afraid that another Gore presidential run would have results similar to 2000 (and to 1952 and 1956).

                  The vice president says some wonderful things, but is so full of himself that he is easy to lampoon (e.g., South Park’s ManBearPig episode).

                  For all of his good points, Al Gore is, after all, just another C student born to a privileged political family. I think we have had enough of those in the White House.

                  •  Paleeze (9+ / 0-)

                    Nowhere above and nowhere in the full transcript will you find a snipit, an excerpt, where Gore is, as you say, "full of himself."  His passion is based on humanity not ego--of that I am certain.  

                    Now let's see.  You make your point quoting South Park while Gore make his by referencing Thomas Paine.  Step away from the teevee, my friend, before it's too late.    

                     

                  •  Wow. (5+ / 0-)
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                    I must respectfully disagree.

                    We can certainly now look back on the Clinton presidency as very successful by contrast to the Bush trainwreck. But Bill's indescretions gave Gore a big ol albatross. And imo Leiberman (VP) was the opposite of an answer.

                    It doesn't matter who else woulda, coulda run more successfully, we only get the past reality we already lived through.

                    Still, I agree the 2000 campaign sucked. But these experiences we go through shape us.

                    Gore is stronger by far for the experience of these last five years. I see that, hear that and feel that clearly.

                    He will continue to contribute his leadership and vision in whatever ways he is able. I have no doubt.

                    They can conquer who believe they can. --Virgil

                    by ksingh on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:56:07 PM PDT

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                  •  Nonsense. After 8 years of Clinton/Gore (0+ / 0-)

                    no Democrat who was linked to that administration
                    could have won in a landslide. That election was all about "honor and dignity" not abut the economy.
                    Most people thought the Greenspan and the private sector not Clinton was responsible for the boom.

                    And Gore unfortunately was linked to Clinton -- and every shit Clinton did even though Gore has nothing to do with that shit.

                    just another C student born to a privileged political family

                    Privileged? What do you know about Gore's childhood?
                    It was everyhing BUT privileged. You wouldn't have enjoyed it. It was much tougher than the life most kids in the US have today.

                    As for C student, he was C, B and A student depending on his interest.

                    But considering that Michael Faraday spent only 4 years in primary school he still became one of the greatest experimental scientists of all time I would say scores in schools tell nothing about someone's intellect.

                    Yes that is also true to Bush and Clinton and Rice and Clark.

                  •  You are brainwashed by TV. (1+ / 0-)
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                    Your ass is full of itself not Gore.

                    Gore is a humble guy who never treated anyone "below him" with disrespect. Just ask his Vietnam buddies.

                    You really mentioned  a stupid cartoon as some kind of evidence that Gore is full of himself?

                    OK, that tells it all about you.

                •  That's what I was thinking...he would make a ... (1+ / 0-)
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                  ...splended Cabinet secretary. Or anything else he wished to do. Even what he is doing now is amazing. Because who knows if he would want to go thru the national election process again, and we must respect his wishes, ultimately.  Because we have not changed the system that let him down. We have to STAND BY HIM to let the world know we value thinkers, not frat boys giving sound bites trying to pass themselves off as leaders.

                •  I fear you diminish Stevenson's contributions. (0+ / 0-)

                  I was also around when Stevenson suffered his two losses. Given that he was running against Ike and in 1952 Truman was less popular than some diseases, it's no wonder the man lost. But he came back and made significant contributions at the UN. Granted, politicians in those days weren't accorded the kind of coverage we see today. Thus, he got less press.

                  Stevenson did, however, lend an air of legitimacy to the seemingly terribly young Kennedy administration and effectively balanced some of Johnson's rough edges in the vice-presidency.

                  My point was that Gore has an opportunity to make contributions other than as an elected person, and we seem to agree on that point.

                •  I well remember when Stevenson lost to Eisenhower (0+ / 0-)

                  My parents were numb. All that they had hoped to salvage from the 1930s -- literature, awareness of other cultures, history, wisdom -- from then forward, was, all around them, let drop, was actively put down.

                  It had begun a bit earlier. About 1949 a breath of some kind went through this country, like Dutch elm disease, something about having won the war and getting a whiff of empire. And after that the small town, the self-sufficient farm, a family working alongside its animals, its windbreak trees, were clearly coming to an end.

                  In my life, from then till JFK, till these screens, it was the uniform, the military, the one with the new car, the Korean War, advertising and conformity, education become perverted to job training, art an investment, the computer's icy Taylor efficiency replacing the assembly line, genetic modification with its own spent-uranium poisonousness, more war

          •  Right on! (0+ / 0-)

            Only a true patriot would run if he were in Al Gore's shoes.

            Imagine, if Gore is elected in '08, he will be working to clean up the mess of the troglodyte who STOLE the election from him in '00.  It's like if a friend asked you to house-sit for her, but someone else bullied their way in, saying "no, I must do it!" and upon entering the house began flinging feces all over the place, smearing it into the furniture, slathering it on the walls, shoveling it into the heating ducts.  And then when your friend returns from vacation and sees that her house is covered with shit, she calls you up with an offer to house-sit again, but asks if you could do some cleaning this time...

            "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty..." ~Thomas Jefferson

            by Subterranean on Mon May 15, 2006 at 11:04:52 PM PDT

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        •  I think we are so accustomed to (1+ / 0-)
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          the  doublespeak..

          We are overwhelmed by the speeches of politicos whose message is divorced from the truth of their actions.

          Who wrap themselves in a mantle of "common good" - (eg Bush's protestations that he invaded Iraq to "spread democracy" when so many have suffered as a result and the only ones to benefit have been the Bechtels and Haliburtons.)

          And the so-called Christians really out for money like Ralph Reed.

          ...That we are extremely wary of all politicians. We find it hard to believe that any politician really could be motivated by a true caring for the "good of the world."

          no snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible

          by biscobosco on Mon May 15, 2006 at 09:24:27 AM PDT

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        •  why either or and not both/and? (3+ / 0-)
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          Gore could be a candidate (I hope!) and the eloquent spokesman on global warming he has been for decades.  I am starting to see Gore as our Churchill for 2008.  I honestly believe Gore has a rather idealistic view about service, and has an ambivalence about campaigning (which showed in his lackluster 2000 campaign that nonetheless won him the election).  He is a pragmatist also.  The Gore we are seeing now is not the overly ambitious 1988 Gore, or the hit-and-miss 2000 Gore.  It is a mature and relaxed Gore who wants genuinely to help the country.  He will do so far more as POTUS than as an Adlai Stevenson for the 21st century.

      •  betterdonkeys, (9+ / 0-)

        I think Gore is speaking form his heart when he is putting forth his profound vision as seen again in the words posted here, for a better future for all of humankind.

        If you think about it, for someone operating on that plane, politics becomes such a mundane exercise.

        Yet, sometimes realizing great ideas requires rolling up the sleeves, getting the hands dirty, and doing the mundane. And the power of the Presidency is one of the most potent mechanisms for fulfilling his vision and bringing about tremendous progress.

        As such, the question of whether he is thinking about a run is a somewhat separate one from his oration and his championing of a great vision.

        I do believe that he is weighing the pros and cons. I also believe that he doesn't like politics very much.

        Yet, for the sake of our collective future we need someone like him at the helm.

        An important point to keep in mind is this: If Gore runs and does not win. Then what does he stand to lose? It's not the money (he has plenty of that, and he will have plenty of people contributing for a run), it's probably not even the stigma of losing (let me remind the reader that Gore never lost an election!), but it's potentially the causes themselves that he believes in. For, a run during which much negativity will be thrown his way by the opposition, could hinder those very causes.

        Yet, at the same time, by running, he would also be able to promote the same causes because a run would generate a large audience as well as make others adopt his agenda (Clark, for example, has taken on global warming as an issue. Warner was talking about it the other day).

        So the thought process that Mr. Gore is undergoing is likely a very complex one.

        I think that the question for us Gore and Gore'08 supporters should not be whether "Gore will run", but rather what we can do to soften up the ground and facilitate an Al Gore run.

        In other words, we need to find ways to promote his candidacy beyond dkos and other blogs, and media narrative surrounding it. We need to put machinery in place to field the inevitable rightwing attacks and smears.

        All of these things will reflect in polls, a subject that I have been writing about in last few days.

        With strong polls numbers, the chances of winning increase. And that is one way to encourage Al Gore to make a run.

      •  Is it Obvious to Joememtum? (0+ / 0-)

        From the "Where Art Thou, Romeo" file comes this blurb from today's Hotline

        ? ? ? Overlooked ? ? ?

        Curious, does anyone know if Joe Lieberman has asked Al Gore for an endorsement in the CT SEN primary?

        Wonder how Al Gore will react if asked to endorse Lieberman.

        A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

        by JekyllnHyde on Mon May 15, 2006 at 01:14:51 PM PDT

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    •  Is there a larger version of that poster? (2+ / 0-)
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      I'd love to pass it around.  It's brilliant.

      •  Little known factoid for you (1+ / 0-)
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        Don't know about the poster, sorry, but I'd love one signed!  

        There's a little segment in the film that few beyond the whole gung-ho cartoon nuts, like myself, will realize is snipped from an episode of Matt Groening's Futurama called, "Crimes of the Hot" (season #4, probably circa 2003).

        If I were to tell you the plot line, you'd think I've lost it, but in this episode, which centers around the global warming issue, Al himself actually did the voice over.  As far as I know, Nixon's head in a bottle and Agnew's headless body were played by others...

        Pretty cool, huh?

        •  Doesn't Al's daughter write for Futurama? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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          "Murder, considered a crime when people commit it singly, is transformed into a virtue when they do it en masse." St. Cyprian (200-258)

          by valleycat on Mon May 15, 2006 at 09:53:07 AM PDT

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        •  One of our guests may be the President (1+ / 0-)
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          The Futurama episode (Tales of Interest) with the space-time continuum/Vice-Presidential Action Rangers was first aired in November 2000, and ran with "One of our guest stars may be the President" as the opening teaser line that is changed for each episode in the title credits. Alas, it was changed to something less electric (and obviously less memorable) when it was rerun.

          I hope he has a role in one of the new direct-to-DVD Futurama movies that are coming out. He and Stephen Hawking are my favorite guest stars.

  •  Thanks for taking the time (14+ / 0-)

    And caring.
    Imagine, a politician who can talk with ease about places like Japan, China, and Argentina.

    What a colossal screwup 2000 was. Dammit.

    Election fraud, negligence, torture, spying... What's it gonna take? A BJ?

    by kamarvt on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:22:11 AM PDT

  •  Gore/Obama! (17+ / 0-)

    I'd be so happy with that combination.  (I'd still be very pleased with Gore/Feingold, Gore/Clark, Gore/Warner, or Gore/Edwards.)

  •  How can we get Gore to come talk about this... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... in Amsterdam? Maybe via Democrats Abroad?

    He'd have a big American, as well as Dutch audience here.


    One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures. -- George W. Bush, Jan. 3, 2000

    by Page van der Linden on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:26:38 AM PDT

  •  We are Formed by Our Experiences (15+ / 0-)

    I would hesitate to agree that the Al Gore we know now is the Al Gore that would have presided over the Executive Branch these last few years.
    I think that he would have been very restricted, and a lot of his humanity and passion would not have shown through.
    Also, I think that we, as a nation, had to see for ourselves what a bunch of complete losers the Republican zealots really are, and, in order to do that, we had to finally give them a truly free hand.
    No matter how much they wriggle, they can't get off the hook they, themselves, set.
    Al Gore needed the freedom to release his inner self.
    I agree with your opinion of him, and I would like to see him run again as his own man.
    The problem is that modern politics no longer allow anyone to be "their own wo/man." I would hope that he would be able to tell the campaign consultants to do something productive, like watch galciers melt.
    However, I don't blame him a bit for not wanting to run. The Republican poo-flingers, under the loving wing of Karl "flung dung" Rove, have made the prospect so daunting that only insane chimpanzees would actually relish the thought of running.

    "[T]hat I have no remedy for all the sorrows of the world is no reason for my accepting yours. It simply supports the strong probability that yours is a fake."

    by Heronymous Cowherd on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:29:52 AM PDT

    •  Well, that still doesn't take away from the fact (9+ / 0-)

      that the 2000 election was stolen.  I think this nation would have benefitted from eight more years of Democrats in the White House.  

      Of course, that would mean an additional eight more years of Republicans in Congress--but we would have had a check and balance.

      I agree with you on your main point, however.  We now see a different Al Gore.  The old one was a technocrat, a tinkerer, striving to perfect government.  

      The new one sees a bigger picture.  Government will never be perfect.  Running it like a business not only is impossible, but after decades of corruption (WorldCom, Enron...) that model is ill-advised.  What is important is partnerships between business and government, between governments around the world, and getting individual citizens involved in both dialogue and action.

      I actually like the Al Gore of 2006 a hell of a lot better than the Al Gore of 2000.  And it's not just the contrast between him and George Bush.  He's really grown and developed as a leader.

    •  I don't think Gore would run because... (5+ / 0-)

      ...he wants to. But he may run because he has to.

      HC, I think your comments are absolutely accurate. In the end, we may all agree that our Democratic leaders did the right thing in adopting the "wait and let them have their way" posture. For the long term, that may have been the only way. We are also right to have kept up the screaming at them. The death and destruction, no matter how much constraint may have been necessary, is on all of us. That's the hardest part.

      I believe you're right about Gore too. Finally, perhaps experience and goodness will throw off the shackles of a growing dishonesty in American politics. Maybe Al's the man to close down the Snake Oil Pit for once and for all. He couldn't have been that man six years ago. Did any of us really know the extent of what was coming our way?

      I hope we don't have to endure this insanity much longer.

    •  True. But the country is desperate for (0+ / 0-)

      his leadership.

      Defend the Fourth Amendment And the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1985 from all barbarians, foreign and domestic...

      by Fasaha on Mon May 15, 2006 at 11:05:51 AM PDT

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    •  I think you are seeing something important (1+ / 0-)
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      most people can't be advised, it's all school of hard knocks. Who knows why the school of fish turns and turns, and all follow --

      Something had to be seen, and in a mass urban society that means being seen only in extremity. And it's only beginning to be seen.

  •  Now this is a diary (17+ / 0-)

    Absolutely recommended. He gets it all. The vision, the higher ideas, the issue, and the fact that neither crisis will ever be dealt with the way it should be unless we ALL become a part of the solution. How lucky you were to be able to hear these words in person. What a great man. I am so grateful he is here bringing this issue to us now. It couldn't come at a more crucial time for our country and our species. So yes, thank you Mr. Gore from the bottom of my heart.

  •  lale, i BEG you! (3+ / 0-)
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    could you find another site to post your mp3? maybe archive.org?

    there are a lot of us who would love to hear it!   please, please, please!

    many thanks for the transcript, which is useful even if the mp3 is available!

  •  here's hoping Gore's a surprise guest @ yearlyKOS (11+ / 0-)

    finger's crossed!!

  •  He is right about TV (8+ / 0-)

    TV news is so banal it makes me want to turn off the TV forever.

  •  Just an idea. (9+ / 0-)

    We have a president-in exile-to rally round, whether he runs or not, and clearly he has the potential to waken at least the Democratic base. Imagine if we had a shadow cabinet as well. A point man or woman for the majors slots (Defense, State, etc.) and issues. Even if they later were replaed by someone else. Hmmm?

    •  Good idea (1+ / 0-)
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      ... and no need to wait for permission.  Just go ahead and do it!

    •  Why not? (1+ / 0-)
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      This is SOP in parliamentary democracies - a recognizable, elected Leader of the Opposition and a shadow cabinet.  Plus the executives have to sit as legislators and handle uncomfortable questions every day.  I'd love to see Bush handle himself in Question Period!

      "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." - Pierre Trudeau

      by fishhead on Mon May 15, 2006 at 09:40:08 AM PDT

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    •  I think this has to be done (0+ / 0-)

      I have thought so since the 2000 election.

      And sites like this one can help make it possible. It's immediate communication that is so vital, as Dean understood. Otherwise the nervous system never grows out to the edge of the political body and it literally cannot feel what is happening.

  •  What a nice blog (1+ / 0-)
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    I just applied to join your email alert list.  

  •  I'm so glad he addressed this issue (14+ / 0-)

    If we really want this country to live up to its heritage and have a hopeful future it is time for it's citizens to start taking things seriously again.  Of course I'm not directing this at present company on DailyKos - it's refreshing to come here and see how many others actually do think and care about the real issues - the things that actually impact all of us.   But for the type of people Gore is taking aim at it's been a great party for the past couple (few) decades, with the only requirement for admission this kind of "manufactured" ignorance and intellectual laziness that is glorified in a way I can only imagine our Founding Fathers would have found appalling.  While this segment of America may have done quite nicely for themselves with this attitude, the party is coming to a crashing end and they are driving the country into the ground in the process.  

    I'm just so angered by the promotion of this attitude of not caring, not knowing, and not wanting to know - and if you do you are somehow labeled as some kind of (fill in the blank) wacko or liberal etc etc.  

    This anti-intellectual theme always makes me think back to re-electing Bush when those who couldn't make up their mind would frequently say "Oh, well he just seems like a regular guy - like someone you'd like to have a beer with..."  To which I always thought "the last person I want as President is someone who fits the bill as just a regular American guy - I want - and we need - someone extraordinary..."  I'm glad Gore called us out on this - he's showing that he isn't just one of the guys but he very well may be an extraordinary leader that we desperately need now.

  •  Damn, how I want that in '08 (2+ / 0-)
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    Gore sure is saying the right things.  He shows all signs of learning from his mistakes and coming out much, much stronger.  

    I think that the second time around he will prove to be a savvy candidate.  He seems to have spent alot of time analyzing the current state of politics and probably has been following the blogosphere all this time.  No doubt when he announces his candidacy on DKos it'll light this place up.

    Why settle for the truth when you can have Truthiness???

    by wintersnowman on Mon May 15, 2006 at 06:11:08 AM PDT

  •  Is it going to take an actual DECLARATION (8+ / 0-)

    that he's running for Gore to be included on the major straw polls? Hmm?

    •  parenthetically... (8+ / 0-)

      that's a great fucking poster.

      •  Ironic too, as (4+ / 0-)
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        hundreds of people in the next town over are being evacuated because of a record FOOT of rain yesterday that have put Massachusetts, NH and parts of Maine under a state of emergency.

        •  But that's not important, lale (28+ / 0-)

          The only thing important here is pushing 08 24/7 and the Clinton/Gore grudge match.<snark.> I'm sorry to sound cynical about that, but I truly believe Mr. Gore is in a different place now, and knows as he has for the last thirty years that the climate crisis goes far beyond the political rhetoric we see here and on other blogs. He has had a metamorphosis, and from what you posted here regarding his words he truly gets that a man can change the world regardless of a title, by being a man that sincerly lives his words. He has stated this movie is not a political movie, and has even I believe stopped the media from asking poltical questions for that very reason...because they don't get it.

          I think we should respect that and stop pushing 08 on him so much now. He sees what this world is facing as something we need to begin working on now. He was also quoted as stating in an interview for Grist Magazine last week, that this won't wait until 2008, and frankly imo, all of this hype by some is cheapening the debate of this issue. Hurricane season starts in a matter of weeks, and I am afraid for what we may face  as we see stronger storms. Even NYC was put on alert for this hurricane season and we usually never get anything even close to what they get down South. I just don't understand why so many people continually have to be on 08 mode when there is really so much other work that needs to be done now. Al Gore gets that, and I'm glad he does.

          •  Wow, I hope everyone reads this comment above (8+ / 0-)

            While this diary gets recommended quickly for all the presidential speculation, I hope people take the time to truly internalize his words.  

            Beyond the politics of it all, we should be talking about CAFE standards for cars, alternative energy, and actually doing these things NOW.  Although I love all of these comments, I haven't seen anyone go the route of policy yet...

            •  And that is KEY (10+ / 0-)

              I too have not seen one comment from anyone who "rah rahs" on the 08 team yet about what we are going to do to end our dependence on oil and the chokehold oil companies and others involved in paying millions out to discredit this truth have on us. I am disappointed in that there is not one Democrat running for 06 that has even said the words, "climate crisis." Are they just words like "election reform" to be bantied about as only a talking point? Or do Democrats truly care for finally stepping up to the plate themselves to address this? And we must get Republicans and others together on this as well, because it is that important.

              Bush has stated from the beginning that he will not sign on to the Kyoto Treaty because it would cause irreparable economic harm to this country... and then Katrina happened. And to this day he has not once provided one scintilla of evidence to back up his claims. We are dealing with a faction that has immense financial resources and an ideology that goes against all that is moral and logical, and they are killing our planet. How do we fight that should be the question as well. I get the distinct impression that people see Al Gore as some caped superhero who will swoop down and all of this will magically go away (which he actually eluded to in his SNL skit which I thought was hilarious)... while that is very romantic, it is not realistic. That is why he made this movie to tell people in essence that the problem exists, the crisis is real, and that none of us can face this alone, not even him.

              Although he had been virtually alone on this politically for many years, which I also believe is one reason why he sees more of a chance of success regarding this if he works from out here now to inspire US to hold our leaders accountable for making policy that truly addresses this issue. And the topic he spoke of regarding the "Democracy" crisis is the very obstacle we face in solving the climate crisis. The media has deliberately hidden the seriousness of the climate issue because of ignorance, fear, and intimidation by politicians and special interests that do not want the people to see the truth biting into their profit sheets. Sorry to go on so much, but this is important to me too. I care like so many of us about the world our children will see, and I'm damned tired of some people only using this issue as a talking point when it should be an action point. I hope this movie brings it there, because our Earth needs us now.

              •  Far worse (8+ / 0-)

                "The media has deliberately hidden the seriousness of the climate issue because of ignorance, fear, and intimidation by politicians..."

                The media did far, far worse to Al Gore.  When one looks at the evil of Bush and the vast wreakage left behind, never lose sight of the his filthy partners in the American "journalism" corps.  They will forever stand with him in his montrous responsibility; history will see them as true partners in vast crimes.

                  •  Yes indeed (5+ / 0-)

                    All of them - in their doublespeak and their targeting of scientists who dare oppose the administration.  Along with their deliberate distortion of truth and an all out war on hard science.

                    This will be the legacy of this administration - inaction and deception in the face of a potential global catastrophe.  I hope that in the future whenever these idiots are mentioned this is the first thing that people think about - Katrina and flooding and mudslides and disappearing islands.  Because it is all on their hands - the politicians for not doing anything and the media for putting up the smoke and mirrors so that our citizens were tranformed to consumers rather than being exposed to and actually caring about things other than money and status

                    •  Their politics of fear... (2+ / 0-)
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                      has also blinded people to the other real issues we need to face. They use fear to sell a bogus war for profit. They use fear to make people believe they and only they can "save us" as they strip away the very constitutional protections they swore to uphold. And they use religion and Jesus Christ to bring out a voting block that cares more about two men loving each other, than people dying in a natural disaster. They will be remembered in history for the peddlers of deception and destruction that they are, and though I am not one who is now particulary religious myself (I prefer to call myself spiritual,) if there is a hell, they will surely burn in it. For no man who truly believes in a supreme being that created this Earth, could be so cold and calculating in assisting in its demise.

                      "Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear."

                      -Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

              •  Getting out of the box (4+ / 0-)
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                Clearly we have a deficient political dialog.  Politicians do not discuss the tough issues (global warming, peak oil to name two) in any substantial way because the pubic does not understand these issues in any depth.  It is not reasonable to ask politicians to lead the way into these topic areas absent public comprehension.  It would amount to political suicide, without accomplishing anything positive, while establishing a kind of faux precedent that even to refer to such things is political death.

                Gore understands this-- hence his comments about Common Sense and the Federalist Papers of 200 years ago, vs the shallowness of TV patter today.  His movie seeks to enlighten the cineplex public about a crucial issue.  Bravo!  But not enough, by far, as I'm sure Gore himself would agree.  It's a good start, but it has to be followed up, amplified, buttressed from every angle, repeated repeated repeated.

                We really need a LOT more education, a lot more provoking of thought and dialog among the general population.  Once these are established for a while, the politicians can begin to discuss substantive policies to address our problems.  Until then, fugeddaboutit.

                So, how can President Gore inspire, drive, or draw forth this education and dialog?  Can he jawbone TV networks to produce and air not just shows, but entire series devoted to exploring the problems we face and possible solutions?  Can he persuade liberal billionaires and millions of small donors to finance somthing like that?  Can he invite Chris Matthews down to Camp David for a few weekends, to help him understand why mouthing cheap-shot winger propaganda is not a patriotic response in our current situation?

                Any better ideas out there?

          •  Why can't we think about both 'action' items? (3+ / 0-)
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            Gore is calling us to action now. He's telling us to work hard and get ready to make sacrifices. He's laying the groundwork for an actual recovery. From what better place could he lead this recovery than the U.S. Presidency?

            Yes, we have to push our current leaders to act now, but admit it...that's like pushing a boulder up a mountain. We'll keep doing that, but part of the equation is TO GET REAL LEADERS--ones that won't stand in our way, but will help organize and inspire us to do the hard, hard work ahead.

            •  You can't get real leaders... (1+ / 0-)
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              if the population has a majority of people in it who are ignorant, brainwashed, and lazy regarding what is really important. I did a survey on my own of about 100 people in my town, and I asked if they knew about An Inconvenient Truth, if they knew Al Gore did the movie and that this issue was his passion, if they knew what caused global warming, and if they would be willing to go see this movie. While more than I thought answered that they knew what global warming was, none of them knew about the movie, more than a few weren't actually impressed by Al Gore doing it( though I did have a few people who actually knew what he has been doing,)  but more than I thought didn't even know what CO2 was. Even with gas prices so high, people are also continuing to live their lives as usual. How do you get REAL leaders from that?

              We are living in a reality TV, WALMART shopping, fast food eating, me me me society, where information and truth is not made readily available to people, and where self gratification trumps real sacrifice regarding government. I think 2004 proved that indisputably. I have been told you get the government you deserve. I truly do believe that now. Therefore, how do you expect people to want real leaders like Al Gore when they don't even know the importance of the issues that must be tackled?

              That is why Mr. Gore is out here showing this movie to people. It is the people who must be given truth and information first...that then empowers them (hopefully) to then seek more of that information and truth...once they see that truth, it is only then that they will know what a load of BS they have beeen sold by their so-called leaders. That should in turn bring them to the point of demanding change and standing up to fight the obstacles. It is a long process, and again, will not be accomplished in a year and a half. We are talking about reversing  50+years of that brainwashing in a matter of a year and a half. That would really require all of America just shutting off their TVs for a very long time.

              And also, it is only realistic to then discuss the election fraud that has taken place and will continue to take place the longer these same people remain disconnected from the process and kept ignorant about it in a government where both Democrats and Republicans refuse to face that issue as it should be faced. Then of course, there are the lobbyists, the secret societies, the special interests, and everyone else with their hands out. So again, you cannot have real leaders when the apparatus to bring them forward is corrupted and people feel hopeless to beat it. Al Gore running in that system alone will not break it, and that is his point. It must be US that takes the challenge first, rather than always expecting certain people to "save" us. We are in this mess because we were not involved enough or cared enough to stop Bush from stealing the election in 2000, and demanding it be made right in 2004. We accepted the status quo, and now we have this. We got ourselves in this mess, and we need to get ourselves out.

          •  I understand your point, (1+ / 0-)
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            but Al called on us to do our duty in his MLK day speech, and now he needs to do his. I don't for a second think he has been doing all this for selfish reasons, or doubt that he would like to stay out of politics. But, the fact is that we face a series of crisis much graver than those faced in WWII... that could end in not only our deaths but in the deaths of many of the lifeforms on this planet. Al could rally the world in an attempt to save the planet as the president in a way he never could just by releasing movies and giving talks, and in a way no one else could as he would allow the world to decide Bush was just an abberation.

            Sorry, but Gore needs to do his duty too, and because of what I have seen from him lately I expect he will do exactly that.

  •  Why doesn`t Gore consider a run in 2008? (3+ / 0-)
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    To me, he is the best candidate the Democrats could field.  Before that, we need to win the House and Senate.  We need to be as slick as the GOP was/is.  They never announced their radical agenda in 2000 but they sprung it on the American people and with no checks and balances, GOP control of both the House and Senate could pull it off.  Hence we have seen Karl Rove sporting his shit-eating grin the last 6 years.  My fellow Democrats do not mention the I word, impeachment, until after the November, 2006.  Then we all know what needs to be done.  Don`t be wimps!  The misdeeds of the past 6 years require investigations, prosecutions, and punishment.  Let us be the ones with the shit-eating grins.  

    •  Because Al has not forgotten (3+ / 0-)

      There are very, very few men in this country who have the record of service and accomplishment that Al Gore has.  One doesn't get there by being anything but a straight-arrow square worker.

      At the pinnacle of what should have been his political life the American media gorged on sewer shit for the 2000 campaign, branding him a liar when he wasn't a stiff liberal scumbag sidekick of Bill Clinton.

      Would anyone ever sign up for that again?  I know precisely why Al did not run in 2004:  having branded him a losing liar, the filthy American media would not drop that narrative.  Not only that, they would protect Bush and actively knife whoever ran against him.  That's precisely what happened, which makes Kerry all the more the idiot, it was so predcitable.

      Al is waiting for societal conditions that sweep away the sick corporate media filter that will allow him to run as himself.  If those conditions do not arise he will not run.  Period.

      He did his time and will not waste any more of his soul entangled in our grossly filthy and evil media.  They are not worth it; if the country cannot demand change then Al simply cannot demand that it be so.  He doesn't have that power.

  •  Nominate this guy--tomorrow... (3+ / 0-)

    I'm not kidding.  What's the question here?  Could you see HRC speaking the truth so simply, clearly, and concisely?  How about Biden (ROTFLMAO)?  

    I could see Feingold saying many of the same things, but he doesn't have years w/ this as his signature issue.  He also doesn't have the name recognition or the fund-raising capability to battle the HRC behemoth.  Once she rolls to re-election, gathers her chits around the country, and has a few more fund-raisers w/ her new buddy Rupert, there will only be 1 Dem who can realistically compete w/ her.

    Run, Al--PLEASE.

    Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?

    by RFK Lives on Mon May 15, 2006 at 06:17:26 AM PDT

  •  damn (4+ / 0-)

    i live in boston and went out of town this weekend, would have loved to see this.

    gotta say if the election were held today gore would have my vote, no question. basically, at this point in his career he stands for the things i care about. i mean how could you not want to try to restore american public discourse to the level at which it existed during the revolutionary period. is it possible? -- probably not. but should we try? -- hell yes. i like us and al gore because we stand for something other than low taxes. he wants to strive for something -- it is a positive program, not a negative one along the lines of "oh i hate gay marraige," "i hate these immigrants," "i hate giving money to the government." honestly if you hate giving money to the government why not at least vote out the guys who are wasting it all on tax breaks for people who are richer than you?!

  •  If an election starring Al Gore (2+ / 0-)
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    was run like this here blog
    We'd all give him a four
    so the tail could be wagged by the dog.

    -8.38, -7.74 You wouldn't have won if we'd beaten you. - Y. Berra

    by condoleaser on Mon May 15, 2006 at 06:28:05 AM PDT

  •  That old cliche about the Chinese Characters (1+ / 0-)
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    bears revisiting.  The characters are wei ji, which are fairly general in nature.  Wei forms up in many duple-glyph words, all of which imply danger or crisis.

    Ji is the important character.  It means moment, or point in time.  It does not mean Opportunity.

    Wei ji harm-moment.  I do wish Gore would stop using BS Cliches of this sort.  We are in danger, now.  It's happening now.  We must act NOW

    People are usually more convinced by reasons they discovered themselves than by those found by others.

    by BlaiseP on Mon May 15, 2006 at 06:29:06 AM PDT

    •  Actually (0+ / 0-)

      ji (kee), has also meant "incipient moment" and "crucial point".  

      The thing with Chinese (Cantonese or Mandarin), is that sometimes it's hard to boil a character's meaning down to one simple soundbite.

      "Anyone effin tired of this crap, yet?" IMPEACH!!!!!

      by smugbug on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:31:30 AM PDT

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      •  The characters are (1+ / 0-)
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        危机

        which I can read as Desperate Situation / Moment

        Which call for 伟绩

        Wěi jī, Great Acts.

        People are usually more convinced by reasons they discovered themselves than by those found by others.

        by BlaiseP on Mon May 15, 2006 at 08:13:42 AM PDT

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        •  so envious of your Chinese (0+ / 0-)

          I can speak a little, which is fun, but I stand in awe of those who have studied and learned the characters.  I can spot a ren or a bu but that's it.  Language is wonderful and Chinese is especially intriguing for its simplicity/complexity, if that makes any sense.

          •  No biggee on my part (1+ / 0-)
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            My mother is Cantonese and also fluent in Mandarin.  I still know some Cantonese from my childhood and am learning Mandarin.  Oh, my mom also got me a book on Peking when I was a kid and explained a bit about it to me as well.

            Also, am learning some Japanese currently.

            The thing with Chinese characters is this:  you can be in a cafe and there will be Cantonese, Mandarin and Japanese speaking folk there.  Now, they all won't be able to understand each other - but all can read from the same newspaper (if it's based on Chinese characters).  That's very simplified; but it does give you the gist of it.

            "Anyone effin tired of this crap, yet?" IMPEACH!!!!!

            by smugbug on Mon May 15, 2006 at 11:30:35 AM PDT

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  •  Since my diary (3+ / 0-)
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    Gore: 49% favorable is falling off the REC list, let me post the key apsects here:

    Estimated favorability Ratings for Al Gore (May 14, 2006):
       * A net of 49% favorables:
       * 28% hard favorables
       * 21% soft favorables

       * A net of 43% unfavorables:
       * 39% hard unfavorables
       * 4% soft unfavorables

       * 8% no opinion or unfamiliar

  •  MARYSCOTT (3+ / 0-)
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    and any others in the greater Los Angeles area -

    Al Gore will be speaking along with a screening of the movie - in downtown L.A. as part of the Cal Plaza Grand Performances series this summer - the date is June 24th.

    This is an amazing series every year - free - open air and fun as hell. For Al, best be getting there early.

    http://www.grandperformances.org/...

  •  There's a great piece in Orion (8+ / 0-)

    by Derrick Jensen, titled Beyond Hope.
    Well worth reading and digesting. The gist is that one of the things that comes out of losing hope can be the desire to act. lol. I hope that this is what we are seeing, and have the time and thoughtfulness to nuture in those who are now hopeless.

    My dad always said "TV will turn everybody into idiots". And I find that it has. Even intelligent Dem friends tell me that some of the diaries I send them are "too long", even when they are just 6 or 8 paragraphs! And the 16-20 yr. old students, coming out of a 100 minute indy film are pitiful! "That was soooooooo looooooong!" They are programmed in 30 minute segments.

    •  The Weyerhauesers of this wicked world (2+ / 0-)
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      are becoming acutely aware of what they're doing, because it's cutting into their bottom line.  They weren't always so far-sighted, but they're becoming friendlier to the environment out of simple concern for their investors:  green is also good for the stock price.

      I second the opinion on longish diaries.  But TV has also given us the PBS news, which does cover things in depth.  We've also got C-SPAN, which is arguably the most democratizing aspect of media in modern times.  The Vidiots have always been there, and it's pointless to try to appeal to them.  The best we can hope for is to getting better lead-off paragraphs written, summarizing the matter effectively.

      People are usually more convinced by reasons they discovered themselves than by those found by others.

      by BlaiseP on Mon May 15, 2006 at 06:47:29 AM PDT

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  •  He has (0+ / 0-)

    got to be running, his exposure is up,up,up!  One of the "pundits" on Imus this morning said she considered his SNL skit to be the launch of a '08 run.

  •  Wow. (2+ / 0-)
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    That gave me chills. When is the last time we had a Big Picture guy in the WH? FDR?

    lale, thank you so much for posting.

  •  way to go lale (2+ / 0-)
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    Look who's on the Rec'd list! :)

  •  How genius to use penguins on the movie poster (8+ / 0-)

    It's totally a play on March of the Penguins, the second most popular documentary of all time, after F911. But it's also a way to pull in the kids, even if they started to cry, "Mommy, mommy, what happened to all the snow for the penguins?!" Hmmm, did Al Gore just create nightmares of global warming for little kids across America?

  •  Al Gore is Brilliant (5+ / 0-)

    That was a beautiful thing to read.

  •  crisis/challenge (4+ / 0-)
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    Whether or not the Chinese character thing is correct, Gore is absolutely right that we have to view these crises from a positive standpoint.  They are challenges that must be met, and in the process of meeting them, we'll change for the better.

    Even the horror of 9/11 was a positive step forward.  It put us in a position where we had to make momentous choices about warfare and how we would deal with a threat to our society.  These choices were inevitable - we would have been obliged to face them eventually, but Al Qaeda happened to be the ones who gave us the wakeup call.

    Our government has made the wrong choices, but now the consequences of those choices will force our hand and we'll have to change our ways.

    We'll have to acknowledge that the accustomed ways of waging war are no longer workable or sustainable.

    We'll have to acknowledge that our liberties are precious and fragile, and that they can be taken away not only by sinister foreigners who want to kill us, but by fellow Americans whom we trusted to preserve our freedoms and protect us.

    With regard to the environmental crisis, we'll have to acknowledge that our ways of living are taking a terrible toll on the planet, and we'll have to figure out what we want to give up and what part of our lives we want to change, while we still have the chance to make these choices.

    We'll have to figure out how to deal with all of that.  And once knocked out of our foolish complacency, we'll grow.

    "Biggest Pain-in-the-Ass on This Board"!!

    by hrh on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:27:58 AM PDT

  •  I can listen to Al Gore all day... (2+ / 0-)
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    and then some.  And I love to read what he has to say - it all reads and sounds so clear.  Thoughtful.  Intelligent without being condenscending and patronizing.  And most of all - sound, sound common sense.

    What more can you ask of your President?  

    "Anyone effin tired of this crap, yet?" IMPEACH!!!!!

    by smugbug on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:35:13 AM PDT

  •  superb, also, learning to speak 'science' (3+ / 0-)
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    Gore is the renaissance man in our fast plunge into a New Middle Ages.
    He's mastering the Colbert effect (and wow, do we need it!) and he realizes that Americans are increasingly a visual culture pierced by soundbites.  That poster of the penguins traveling across the desert was poignant-- and too true.  It is still not clear in my mind how many people in this country, let alone on the left, are aware of how serious the catastrophic global warming issue is.  Al Gore is saving our butts right now and we can all help... simple steps here-- the frame of the day:

    “carbon dioxide blanket”

    Please use this frame-- speak it to friends and family.
    This is a simple and effective way to communicate what global warming is, or what greenhouses gases are.  Here's from the link just mentioned:

    the “greenhouse effect” simply confuses people. Few Americans have any firsthand experience of greenhouses, and they don’t grasp the proposed analogy between carbon dioxide (a gas) and glass walls. So instead, Grady and Aubrun suggest talking about a “carbon dioxide blanket” encircling the earth—an explanation that instantly helps people understand why a heating effect is taking place. Sure, it’s a metaphor and shouldn’t be taken literally. But then, so was the concept of an ozone “hole”—a phrasing that instantly allowed the public to understand the issue of ozone depletion and that helped to galvanize political action.

    Al Gore is on the forefront of the issue.  And we can all dream and wish that yes, he was elected (he was!) and that yes he would have made an incredible president (Gore is doing a hell of a lot more good for the country right now than Mr. 29%!)-- and there are simple, concrete ways we can help Al.  

    1. See his movie
    1. Use and speak the frame "carbon dioxide blanket" encircling the earth-- (its an effective way to communicate an abstract idea, but also the most severe problem facing us besides nuclear proliferation)
    1. Spread the word about Al via internet, word of mouth, etc.
    1. Get other Dems and progressives to follow his lead.
    1. Your ideas...?

    Thank you for posting this wonderful Al Gore speech.

    Peace

    •  over the last four years (0+ / 0-)

      Gore has tackled and made infinite sense on so many issues such as the media, the war etc....
      I am longing to hear him take on healthcare.

      •  his healthcare of the planet (1+ / 0-)
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        is a good start.
        My wife just got a $40,000 bill from the hospital (luckily she has health care-- I do not).  The virus she picked up is unseasonable, and related to the un-naturally warm winter we had in NYC (barely any snow-- un-naturally warm).  We're seeing brand new spikes in virus activity due to global warming--the carbon dioxide blanket super-heating the earth.  

        NYC is currently the 11th worse place in the US as far as allergies go-- last year it was 88th.  

        So when Al Gore did his soul-searching I am so glad that he decided to zero in on the the health of the planet, as it is the very being that sustains us.

        We MUST address the health care crisis in this country as well-- our health care system is a crying shame.  Michael Moore's new movie is going to shine a bright light on our debacle of a health care system (his movie is called "Sicko").  Yes, Gore could certainly speak out more about health care too (his wife was central in addressing mental health in the country).  Lots of crucial issues, and in the meantime I'm so glad to see Gore shining a spotlight of truth on this human-created carbon dioxide blanket that is toasting this cool blue planet we call home.

        Peace

    •  The paid 'scientists' in the oil community (1+ / 0-)
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      dismiss Gore's information as "junk science."  I loved the LA TIMES article on Gore's movie that quotes Gore's as saying (and I'll paraphrase here) scientists also told us that smoking wasn't bad for us, but now we know better.  He is so great today.  He's creating such excitement, because humans can feel the heat of the carbon dioxide blanket destroying our environment right before our eyes.  Al Gore is leading us away from the end of the species.  As president, his voice will be heard loud and clear all over the world if we can shut down the noise from the oil companies who will do everything in their power to drown out THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH.

  •  Read the Wired article (4+ / 0-)
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    Much of the language he is using also appears in the recent article, The Resurrection of Al Gore, in the May issue of Wired.

    The article discusses much of what Al and Tipper went through after the 2000 election and his reemergence as a man committed to environemental issues that have been important to him pretty much all of his adult life. The article paints him as having moved past election politics so he can focus fully on the climate crisis.

    Read the article.

  •  Please visit my newly posted diary (1+ / 0-)
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    for important environmental action. Walden logging bill up for vote this week. call in day tomorrow. Thanks.

    And Al? Mr. President? Thank you!

  •  Gore Transcript from MLK Bday Speech - Must Read (6+ / 0-)

    If you  have not read this speech by Al Gore, please print out the transcript, read it and send it to your friends. On Constitutional Issues

    In spite of our differences over ideology and politics, we are in strong agreement that the American values we hold most dear have been placed at serious risk by the unprecedented claims of the administration to a truly breathtaking expansion of executive power.

    As we begin this new year, the executive branch of our government has been caught eavesdropping on huge numbers of American citizens and has brazenly declared that it has the unilateral right to continue without regard to the established law enacted by Congress precisely to prevent such abuses. It is imperative that respect for the rule of law be restored in our country.

    (APPLAUSE)

    And that is why many of us have come here to Constitution Hall to sound an alarm and call upon our fellow citizens to put aside partisan differences insofar as it is possible to do so and join with us in demanding that our Constitution be defended and preserved.

    Edward R. Murrow:We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

    by digital drano on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:43:25 AM PDT

  •  Japan, Argentina (4+ / 0-)
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    Interesting. I STRONGLY believe that excess TV has a lot of harmful effects: desensitization to violence; attention deficit issues; Republicanism-- the sheer opportunity costs of not using the precious little time we each get on this planet to do something more useful.

  •  We Need to Create (1+ / 0-)
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    a will to engage with the world without war in our hearts and minds, as well. We cannot find the ways mitigate and reverse climate crisis by waging war on weather.  We cannot wage endless war and continue the great idea of democracy.

    Our will to war will destroy everything within us that is good and necessary to life because there are too many of us on this planet now to contain the battle.

    "For tis the sport to have the enginer Hoist with his owne petar". - Hamlet

    by Patricia Taylor on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:52:31 AM PDT

  •  This is all simply icing.... (2+ / 0-)
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    Gore convinced me in his SNL routine last week.

    What is here is simply very tasty icing.  Thanx for posting this.  Gore's stock is skyrocketing, and I am completely on board.

    The Moral Majority - all those Christian conservatives left on Earth AFTER the Rapture....

    by sp0t on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:59:06 AM PDT

  •  I love Al Gore but this part is hogwash (1+ / 0-)
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    In the 1780's when the most literate generation in history began a revolution here in Boston and in Concord and then when they met in Philadelphia and when they formed this young nation, they spoke in paragraphs.  They were very mindful of the necessity of communicating with an informed citizenry; complex ideas.  The Federalist Papers appeared as newspaper essays contemporaneous with those debates.  There were 24 other essay series printed in newspapers all over the colonies at the same time. That public forum was a two-way conversation.

    Where to begin--well, the late Enlightenment in North America could be considered more literate than our own time, I suppose, if one only considered the Founding Fathers, and ditto for considering citizens an informed citizenry. And therein lies the problem--those enjoying what we would consider the benefits of citizenship were essentially the convention-going Founding Fathers and few others. I mean these were people who were actively fearful of progress--Madison, for example, presciently foresaw the rise of an urban industrial worker class and their clamoring for greater enfranchisement and he saw it as a very bad thing.

    Look, I know this is tangential to Gore's point--but what's an online community for if not some pedantic flogging of a tangential point, especially where democracy is involved? But the take-away from the American experience is not that a gaggle of sagacious honkies created a wonderful gift for all people everywhere from the get-go. That's essentially an originalist (read: right-wing) myth. The take-away, especially for progressives, is that this clique created a pretty novel way of organizing a society but they severely restricted access to it. Some of them mused long and hard about the potential of extending its benefits. Some of them actively threw up roadblocks to expanding its reach to the unwashed masses. But the long history of America is a story of the masses, well, "crashing the gate," where their "betters" would rather they didn't. Our very understanding of the words "citizenship," "rights," and "freedom" is radically different than what the Founders intended, that transformation has taken place against the express wishes of various power bases, and America is radically better for it. I wish a proponent of this current in American history such as Al Gore wouldn't present such a Schoolhouse Rock version of events; the truth is much more powerful.

    •  A 'gaggle of sagacious honkies'! (3+ / 0-)

      You are undoubtedly the first to use that phrase to describe them.  I bet they'd actually have gotten a kick out of that.  At least Ben Franklin would have.  Maybe not John Adams.

    •  No, Gore was talking about how government and (1+ / 0-)
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      citizens communicated, and yes it made much more sense than today's TV dominated brainwashed society.

      He didn't say  the Founders gave voting rights  to everyone.

      But those who had the right were in fact much better informed about what the heck was going on in the government than today's average Joe who cannot name more than six agencies and never reads a single executive order.

      •  well (0+ / 0-)

        Would you rather have a society run by a tiny number of well-informed (and well-endowed, by their creator, economic happenstance, what have you) individuals, or a very large number of individuals whose average "informed" quotient is somewhat smaller?

        Seems to me American history has been a long journey from the former to the latter, and I for one welcome it.

    •  Recommended (1+ / 0-)
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      ... for consideration as Best Pedantic Flogging of a Tangential Point, in the Gaggle of Sagacious Honkies Division.

  •  All right, nice job! (2+ / 0-)
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    Al's on the mark with his 'lack of discourse' idea.  I was just thinking that very thing this morning as I listened on BBC World Service to a discussion about the Kyoto protocol and how the EU had been too lenient in allotting CO2 caps, and that a rational discussion could be held about the fact that that aspect wasn't working, and shortcomings admitted even by ardent supporters of Kyoto.  There seemed to be an effort to assess the truth, face up to it, and try to work for a reasonable solution.

    Here it's a tad different.  If you say the word 'Kyoto', it is assumed that you burn babies at the stake in the name of Satan.  Next topic.  We're to the point where single words are enough to shut down an entire conversation.  It's utterly ridiculous.  We spend so much time Luntzizing and Lakoffizing everything that no wonder we can't have any actual meaningful discussion.

    (I transcribed an Obama podcast not long ago, and sheesh, you do end up listening to the same phrase about 10 times on some occasions!)

  •  Al Gore is taking my breath away every time (2+ / 0-)
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    he speaks.  In 2000, his words put me to sleep, though I voted for him and freaked out when the Supremes crowned King George.  Today, no matter what he says, I am riveted to his every word.  Passion was what was missing and it's there so clearly now.  But I wonder, as Patriot for Al Gore has made me think, if Gore's message would be drowned out by right-wing fascists who prefer their "decider" to our democracy and would fight tooth and nail to squelch his message on global warming, just as they've fought so hard to ignore the criminals who have overtaken our government.  Is he better served just appearing with his movie and getting out his message?  It's really giving me sleepless nights because his message is key to our very survival as a species.  And his message of hope could turn both crises into opportunities with his leadership and insight.  I want to work for his presidential campaign, but only if he believes it's in the best interest of his message to run.

  •  Outstanding job, lale (1+ / 0-)
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    lale

    Al Gore inspires that much more every day.

  •  Don't forget to visit this site (3+ / 0-)
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    http://climatecrisis.net/...

    And spread the word.

  •  Fuck you South Park propagandists, Al rocks. (3+ / 0-)
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    n/t

    Check out my lte archive at http://www.livejournal.com/users/tomletters and feel free to use my ideas

    by DemDachshund on Mon May 15, 2006 at 09:06:29 AM PDT

    •  Agree. But Gore shouldn't be such a (0+ / 0-)

      gentleman with those assholes.

      They have an agenda.
      And the character they used in Manbearpig doesn't even behave like Gore.

      I mean have ever seen Gore crying? Come on.
      That's Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr.

      All of them were crying in front of the cameras.
      Gore never did that. He is man.

  •  Oh PLEASE...Al Gore is just as culpable (0+ / 0-)
    as the thieves who stole the Presidency WE gave him. He didn't do SHIT to help fight for that victory, nor have I heard a PEEP out of his mouth about the other elections that have since been stolen by the right wing.

    I'm sick and tired of hearing CHEERS for lame politicians who are doing NOTHING to reform elections.

    •  Gore fought for 36 days before SCOTUS selected (4+ / 0-)

      Bush.

      SCOTUS' decision put a damper on any peaceful resistance and Gore was not going to use violence to attach Bush.  

      •  asdf (0+ / 0-)
        I would never suggest violence as a means to fight for Democracy. Sure, he tried to get a recount, but he didn't support the objection of any Senators, thereby allowing the illegal number of votes to be confirmed.

        He rolled over for the Republicans and gave them the president they wanted. As did Kerry, and every Democratic politician who ignores the fact that our Democracy is a FALLACY as long as we have stolen elections.

        Gore and Kerry and Feingold and whomever else, can wax poetic about other, very real problems we are facing in this country--but without real election reform, it's all just hot air. There's NOTHING meaningful any of them can DO about these problems if we can never get into office again!!

        But boy, it sure SOUNDS good, doesn't it?

        •  The party abandoned Gore during the campaign (4+ / 0-)

          and left him out to dry during the recount and certification of the electors.  It was the CBC in the house alone who fought against the certification.

          Al's "support" of a senator's signature on the challenge would have been meaningless.  What you're saying is that he was on his own to push for a senator's signature, which is ridiculous.

          Terry MacAwful and his band of DLC "don't stand for anything or we'll drop you" centrists dropped Gore like a hot potato once he started talking populism during the campaign.  They made in clear in the march to 2004 when they declined to support the man who had at that point won more dem votes than anyone in history.  The man who won in 2000.

          No, the party made it very clear he did not have their support during the campaign in 2000 (where were their objections to the rove attacks?), nor during the recount (didn't want to seem like sore losers), nor during the certification of the electors (they sold out for the lie of "powersharing" with the gop).

          Gore's support of Howard Dean in the face of the DLC's hatred of him tells us what Gore thinks of the DLC and their attitude.  A big "fuck you".  

          Gore was not a senator during the certification of electors.  No senator stepped up, not even Joe Lieberman.  He was powerless to do anything but reject the challenges because they were not signed by a senator.

          If you honestly think that this was all Al Gore's doing, that HE himself stopped the senators from joining the challenge, think again.  The party left him out to dry, and there's no indication he could make that call on his own.  

          •  You may be right (0+ / 0-)
            that the party deserted him--THAT wouldn't surprise me. And thank you for the insight--

            My point is that as long as ANY progressive, liberal, or democratic politician is ignoring the issue of election fraud, then they're either willfully naive, or simply playing the "we're willing to be political losers" game--for some unknown reason.

            I simply can't get behind a politician who may sound great otherwise, but if they're not willing to make meaningful progress toward ensuring that we have clean elections in this country--what's the point?

            I've been utterly stunned at how little attention this very fundamental issue receives. The whole country rolled over for the illegal Supreme court installation of bush, and media,  politicians. and frankly, many progressives who you'd think would be interested in clean elections, pretend that it's not happening!!

            What is it going to take?

            •  paper ballots (0+ / 0-)
              and win elections 60/40 and the "fraud" doesn't change the outcome.  Abolish touch screen voting machines.  That's what it will take.

              In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

              by yet another liberal on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:57:29 PM PDT

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            •  I totally agree (0+ / 0-)

              I spent the last week exchanging e-mails with a techie friend of mine who insisted Diebold and ES&S were simply "incompetent" companies who had no agenda but to make money.  

              I sent him a few articles and now he's on board - something's up.  Intentional loopholes, hiding the fact that they already have printers built into them and then overcharging "out the yin" for adding on printers (don't companies who want to make money actually encourage people to buy peripherals, rather than discourage?  Except of course if you want to discourage paper backup . . .)

              Anyway, I'm handing out the tinfoil as much as I can.  I got beat up pretty badly at the Kerry blog the last days of the campaign when I really felt we were winning this thing but was worried about the voting machines.

              After election night, I got a round of apologies because I'd been right to worry.  Not much comfort, though.  

              Voting machines!  It's the number one issue.  Why is immigration a huge deal all of the sudden.  You don't think the repukes are trying to divert attention or anything, do you?  >snark<</p>

              •  Thank you Delphine (0+ / 0-)

                I don't mean to come down so hard on Al Gore, I know he's got a lot going for him, and his passion is evident-I'm just frustrated to no end because it really seems as though Dem politicians are willing to ignore this issue, and I can't fathom why.

                Frankly, it scares me that perhaps it's because of some super-nefarious reason we're all just a wee bit too naive to understand yet.

                I appreciate your validating my feelings on this though--  

  •  Hot damn! A charisma transplant! (1+ / 0-)
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    This is hot stuff.  Like I said somewhere else, this guy is too important where he is to doom him to a presidency.  I hope he never stops talking about global warming from here on out.  Two crises: climate and democracy.  I can remember that.

  •  Sounds like Al's read Neil Postman (1+ / 0-)
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    Except that Postman thought that the Americans of around the time of the Civil War, not those of the 18th century, were the most literate society the earth has seen or will ever see.  (Though Postman reckoned without the Internet's reviving literacy in America.)

    •  I just discovered Postman myself (2+ / 0-)
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      while looking up soma on Wikipedia, I found this:

      What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.

      Essential funk: 'Indictment' by Antibalas

      by pontechango on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:59:49 PM PDT

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  •  Is it possible... (5+ / 0-)
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    ...I'm becoming passionate about Al Gore?  What a strange world.

    Dean endorsement lends integrity.
    Media work proves smarter fighter.
    Global warming cause shows vision.

    I was talking to some older dem friends.  They were very disheartened about everything (they don't read Kos and get no support from TM).  They said there was nobody who could lead the dems out of the woods.  I said Warner, they said Liz Taylor.  I said Hill, they said Bwahahahahaha, I said ummmmmm.....  Have you heard about Gores new movie?   They said yah I think I heard about that.  We started to talk about a coming water crisis, about peak oil, about the future.  It is becoming clear to me he is the only one.  Good luck Al, we need you in the game whatever you decide.

  •  Peace and prosperity? (0+ / 0-)

    <<And to launch the United Nations and to lay the foundation for what became fifty years of peace and prosperity.>

    What fifty years was that in which we had peace?

  •  Al Gore, the Consensus Candidate in 2008! (4+ / 0-)
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    Great post!

    I am lovin' these last few weeks...did everybody see SNL? Get over to "Crooks and Liars" before it goes to archive...

    I played it for a Moms day BBQ on Sunday, got some people thinkin'...and laughing!

    By the time the 2008 Demo Convention rolls around the nominee will be already selected and that person will be Al Gore. And there won't be any big primary fight, the second tier candidates will melt away and begin jockeying for position on the ticket...As for Hilary, she will be relieved that she won't have to carry the banner, and she has lots of time to be President, she is not exactly old and will always be a contender.

    Again...
    Al Gore will be elected, not because he is running...
    But because he is leading!

    RGJ

  •  Wow! (1+ / 0-)
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    Thanks for your work to bring this to us.

    It's the "anti-fear-propaganda" solution: positive news: HeroicStories, free

    by AllisonInSeattle on Mon May 15, 2006 at 11:57:47 AM PDT

  •  I pledged (1+ / 0-)
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    to take 2 people & i lined them up.  June 2 at the Embarcadero Theatre.  I'll try to buy tickets early & give my pledges their tickets so we can meet at the theatre, & maybe avoid the lines.  

    I didn't see a ticket buying option on the film's website.  That would be handy.

    "The last third is usually backwash." Stephen Colbert

    by x on Mon May 15, 2006 at 11:59:11 AM PDT

  •  Gore kudos from . . . Andrew Sullivan. (3+ / 0-)
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    •  OK, but I remember how Sullivan treated him befor (0+ / 0-)

      ...e.  I know people get a second chance.  But I can't get over Sullivan arguing for Bush so many times on TV.  It outraged me then.  People can change their minds but...

      The environment?  Please.  That's nothing new.  Gore has known it forever, before it was popular.  Please.  

      We need to get rid of these people, they have influence.  We need an Enlightenment.  Just get rid of the whole lot and let's start a new.  From a place of truth and intellectual honestly.  Please.  Dear Andrew Sullivan, I'm not listening to you anymore.  I'll listen to someone who has been consistent.

      •  This is my letter to Sullivan. (0+ / 0-)

        Forgive me if it contentious.  

        Dear Mr. Sullivan:

        You were part of the drumbeat that heralded Bushco. into office.  When you talk about Gore you have now completely lost any credibility.  Gore is the leader to the people who truly believe in him, I'm sorry, and it's not you.  It is for me, who voted for him, who stood by him through the media trashings and pilings on.   I'm the one who has stood by for 6 years, heart broken, watching hatred grow, the character assassinations, the environment die, day after day after day after day for 6 long years.  Real people have died.  In my hometown the snowfall level has changed drastically in a very short period of time.

        Go off with the Bush crowd you helped to create (especially because you have influence over the average person).   You cannot be for Gore.  Now every world you say really echoes hollow now.    

        I believe people get a second chance.  Maybe if you apologized to everyone living under these ugly times, maybe you could have a second chance.  Maybe that was an apology in your piece right there.  I hope so. I'll reread it.   I have a big heart and will forgive if the person is genuine.

        •  Give Sullivan a break. (0+ / 0-)

          He endorsed Kerry in '04 -- and took a lot of heat for doing so.  He has consistently excoriated Dubya for torture, for eavesdropping, for the deficit, for being anti-gay.

          There are plenty of things I DON'T agree with Sullivan about.  But he's a humane, honest, smart guy, and he doesn't put up with hypocrisy.

          •  OK, he seems like a humane guy to me but (0+ / 0-)

            He voted for Bush and road proudly the bandwagon against Gore -- for no good reason.  Of course people deserve a second chance but, you know, I remember things going on during the election, like that tape being sent to the Gore camp.  I mean, who gets behind people like that, especially people in the know, who know what's going on.

            I didn't know he voted for Kerry.  I don't know, it is just hard for me to accept so many things that have gone down.  People who voted for Bush, I just don't know.

  •  Gore is the only choice for... (2+ / 0-)
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    Democratic Presidentail Candidate 2008!

    Fiengold maybe good but he isn't the right one.
    If he was strong enough and determined enough, he would have made better showing on his Censure motion.
    Perhaps, vice president role if Fiengold is willing.

    Please, let's back one person only.
    United front on one single person.
    And NO Nader!!!.......Independents and Greeen Party, please take a break one election cycle!

    Whatever we do, convince Gore to run in 2008!!!

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    go to this website and take the pledge, see the movie and spread the word.

    A lot will depend on the reaction to this movie.
    More people = better press = wider distribution = bigger chance that Gore will run.

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