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The Third World is not poor. The Third World is rich in resources. The PEOPLE of the Third World are poor at the point of a gun. Every lowlife death squad dictatorship on this planet receives direct support of arms, or funding for the purchase of arms, or financing in the form of guaranteed loans for arms, from our government. The socialist democracies do not yield escaping populations desperate enough to endure the dangers and hardship of illegal immigration. Only our pet psychopaths produce that suffering. We need to get out of the business of oppressing labor in the Third World. We need to stop allowing our government to support the human suffering, the corruption, and the sleaze that are the result of our support, our maintenance, and our outfitting of dictatorships.

Originally posted to Linda Wood on Mon May 15, 2006 at 10:25 AM PDT.

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  •  I think it's 'Kleptocracy' (0+ / 0-)

    and Cuba is a lowlife death squad dictatorship that does not receive any funding from our government.

    Sudan doesn't either, I am pretty sure.

    •  Cuba may receive more support from our government (0+ / 0-)
      than you think, beyond the leasing of Guantanamo. If you have interest in U.S. corporate history in the Soviet Union as well as U.S. government guarantees of financing of such activity, I recommend the work of Antony Sutton, for example:

      As to Sudan, here is some interesting reporting:

      By Brian Smith,
      November 19, 2004

      ... In September, then-US Secretary of State Colin Powell declared that the situation in Darfur amounted to genocide. This cleared the way for supposedly "humanitarian" military intervention and was intended to establish the US as the controlling power in North Africa and across the continent. The US has recently conducted a media campaign around the question of genocide, and has been calling for a larger African Union (AU) force that would be paid for and controlled by the West.

      ... Last month, more than $20 million worth of US government contracts were awarded to US firms to operate in Darfur in support of the AU mission. This included an unspecified mission for Dynacorp, which runs a security operation in Afghanistan for the US government. This puts potentially armed US civilian contractors with close US ties into Darfur.

      ... Of primary concern to the US is the conclusion of the southern peace deal between Khartoum and the US-backed Sudan People's Liberation Army/Movement (SPLA), which will allow access for US oil companies to the large oilfields in the south. The deal has been close to agreement since May.

      ... Sudan remains on the US State Department's list of states that sponsor terrorism, and the Sudan-based Islamic African Relief Agency (IARA) was recently declared to be a Specially Designated Global Terrorist organisation by the US-which may now seek for it to be included on the "asset-freeze" list. This provoked a furious response from Khartoum, which is threatening to sue the US government. The IARA has a cooperation agreement with the World Food Programme to distribute food-aid in Darfur.

      Sudanese President al Bashir's regime is not well regarded by the US government, but Washington denies that it is seeking his removal, "in large part because no alternatives exist," according to Stratfor. An overthrow would also have disastrous consequences, particularly whilst al Bashir still has a civilian base and the support of the military. US backing of rebel groups, however, creates a precarious and ultimately untenable position for al Bashir-he must either crush opposition groups and risk international condemnation or reach peace agreements with them that will alienate his nationalist support and undermine his control. The US also supports Sudanese opposition groups such as the National Democratic Alliance (NDA), of which the SPLA is a member.

  •  Linda, you have a very good point (1+ / 0-)
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    mariachi mama

    if the US really wanted to solve the "immigration problem", we would go about it like this:

    1.  Change our trade agreements - no "free trade" for items which the US government heavily subsidizes, like agricultural products (corn, wheat, sorghum, etc).  Allow developing nation farmers a chance to earn a living within their own nations.
    1.  Enforce our OWN labor standards at home for overtime, hourly wage, union organizing, etc.  
    1.  Enhance those standards by passing a "Living Wage" requirement, so it would be possible to actually live off the income from working one full-time job.
    1.  Implement some type of national or portable health care coverage, to free up US workers to truly pursue the work they would prefer doing, rather than that they must do to obtain employer-based health care.
    1.  Adopt a Working Rights Policy (I just made that title up, sorta like it) towards other nations.  If other nations condone monopolies and stiffle internal competition, their products would be heavily tariffed on import to the US.  Likewise, the products of nations without EFFECTIVE environmental, labor, child welfare and other standards.
    1.  Through our economic policies and political influence (i.e., not the point of a gun), push developing nations to adopt reforms that limit oligarchy, encourage full participation by internal workforce, discourage the accumulation of wealth by a powerful few at the expense of the health, safety and well-being of the poverty-stricken many.
    1.  Re-vitalize the Peace Corps as a means of teaching teachers who would become the foundation of solid educational systems throughout developing nations.  Well-educated populaces have lower birth rates, higher income rates and more respect for women's rights.  The absence of a well-educated populace hinders development.

    Well, those are my first seven points, just off the top of my head.  To put this another way, there are a TON of things the US can do, if we are really serious about reducing both the desire and the need to immigrate to the USA. However, Bush isn't interested and neither are the uneducated bums of the likes of the MinuteMen, et al.

  •  Barter is possible (0+ / 0-)

    The Third World is not poor. The Third World is rich in resources. The PEOPLE of the Third World are poor at the point of a gun. Every lowlife death squad dictatorship on this planet receives direct support of arms, or funding for the purchase of arms, or financing in the form of guaranteed loans for arms, from our government.

    Many countries produce weapons including Russia, China, India, Iran, Israel, North Korea, Brazil, France, Poland, the Czech Republic, and the United Kingdom.

    These countries need raw materials and would be happy to barter weapons for resources.


    •  We provide the financing for this trade (0+ / 0-)
      in the form of guarantees. We thereby benefit the merchants of death as well as the merchants of oppression. There's nothing in this for us as American taxpayers. What we provide is an open-ended, virtually unlimited ability to borrow in our name.
  •  In many countries cars roam the streets (0+ / 0-)

    The money for each new luxury automobile for the elite could have been used to buy two hundred sewing machines or several thousand textbooks.

  •  Mony countries have stone to build (0+ / 0-)

    lovely stone homes like those built in Colonial America.

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