Oh well. I'm sitting here working, with Hardball on in the background. Ed Rogers is on saying that none of it happened. There was no leak of Valerie Plame's name.
He repeats the mantra that Joe Wilson was shown to have lied, and neither Tweety or the woman opposite Rogers - didn't catch her name - asks him to clarify the statement or then calls him on it.
More after I smash my face into the bricks a few more times.
Rogers is really one of the most annoying little twits in punditdumb. I could never sit down and talk to him because I'd probably punch him. The man reeks of faux-preacher insincerity.
He is a walking parrot for every Republican talking point, spoken repeatedly. He never lets anyone finish a damned sentence as he rambles on with half-truths and untruths.
This has to be one of the worst versions of an increasingly poor talk show.
Matthews, to his credit, obviously didn't agree with Rogers, but he never slapped him down and never stopped him from interrupting his other guest.
Please, anytime someone gets into this with you, fellow Kossacks, do not let them get away with the "Joe Wilson lied" line. Don't let the conversation go past that point until your opponent spells out the supposed lie, you discredit it, and your opponent admits defeat on that subject.
We owe that to Joe Wilson. He stuck his neck out when few others dared. With his background and placement in the run-up to Iraq, he could have easily made a fortune writing for Regnery and towing the conservative line, dishing all the dirt on Clinton's "failures" and telling the sheep that George Bush is really a darned swell guy. He would have been the next Ollie North or G. Gordon Liddy, the tough-guy Republican who blew smoke in Saddam's face.
Thank God for men of conscience.
Joe Wilson didn't lie. And claiming that the Senate Intel Report said he lied is a lie. The addendum to the report, written by three of the hard-right Republicans made that claim, without any real basis.
Beat the premise first, then move on to the argument. that's the Rovian way, you see. Create an errant premise that puts your opponent in a bad light, and the argument is already won.