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Headline: "Bush laments poor Republican relations with blacks".

"I consider it a tragedy that the party of Abraham Lincoln let go of its historic ties to the African American community," Bush said. "For too long my party wrote off the African American vote and many African Americans wrote off the Republican Party."

Republicans didn't "write off" blacks, they used them as a demonizable prop to bring in the Dixiecrat vote into their fold.

And who is Bush to talk, given the disaster he ignored in New Orleans? He could rush to DC on a midnight flight to sign the "let's meddle in the Schiavo family's affairs" bill, but couldn't be bothered to cut his six-week vacation short when Katrina hit.

Abraham Lincoln would be no more a modern-day Republican than Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms would be modern-day Democrats.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:30 AM PDT.

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    •  Abe Lincoln vs. Madison Avenue (5+ / 0-)

      If you've never heard Bob Newhart's routine about Abe Lincoln vs. Madison Avenue, you may want to do so. The routine is about Lincoln being 'image managed' for the Gettysburgh Address by consultants. The routine is on his "The Button-Down Mind of Bob Newhart" Album CD. The consultants would have done to Abe Lincoln today pretty much what they did to Al Gore in 2000 — make him seem wooden and the butt of the joke on all late night talk shows.

    •  Honest Abe... (12+ / 0-)

      ...will forever be an American and a Patriot.

      Bush is a Coward and a Liar, and will be forever as well.

      •  Check your history smart guy... (0+ / 0-)

        He was also the least popular wartime president in the history of our country.  He imprisoned journalists who spoke out against the war, stripped Americans of many civil liberties to protect national secrets, and trusted in his generals almost to a fault.  Sound familiar?  

        It amazes me how uneducated the discussions on this web site are some times.  I commend the webmaster for letting alternative to "alternative" views be posted.  

        I recommend some reading on early American history and pick a book without pictures.

        Go Bush.

        •  Talking about George Bush, are we? n/t (0+ / 0-)

          A born and raised San Franciscan.

          by FlynnSox on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:50:45 PM PDT

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          •  Only in regards to Lincoln (0+ / 0-)

            There are parallels between the Bush and Lincoln presidency.  Same could be said for FDR, Eisenhower, and Reagan.  They all made principled decisions to fight for what the nation stood for (FDR - two front war focused on Germany first, Ike - commitment of US troopos to Vietnam, Reagan - fighting and winning a bloodless Cold War).  Tough decisions that history has been very kind to them on.  So...go Bush.  I am not a huge Bush fan, and actually think he is gun shy on a few things.  Namely his use of terminology.  This is not a war on terror.  This is a clash of civilizations and a war on Islamic extremism.  The Crusades have come home to roost, so hold on to your holy water.  This is going to be a bumpy ride.  

    •  He was a brilliant man, but he was one ugly guy. (2+ / 0-)
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      TV would've shot him down hardcore.

      -2.75, -3.90 -- Please don't eat the moderates.

      by iCaroline on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:50:51 AM PDT

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    •  I Can See The Fox News Banner Now. . . (4+ / 0-)

      Dishonest Abe?

      The Republican Party: Keeping America Fact-Free Since 2001

      by IndyScott on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:16:17 AM PDT

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      •  Yeah, what a liar! (2+ / 0-)
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        Remember he said he split like 100 rails all by himself?  

        And he says he's 6'4" but he's really only 6'3".  Gawd, he can't help but exaggerate, can he!  Man it's fun to point that out.  har har har >>sigh<<</p>

        Plus he grew a beard!  He must have been losing it.  Doesn't he wear anything but black?

        And what's with that stupid hat?  He's trying to look cool but everyone knows it's to cover his bald spot.

        And remember all that complicated crap he said at Gettysburg?  Who's he think he's talking down to?  Why didn't he just say "87" instead of that high fallutin "four score and seven" crap?

        What a phony liar, that Abe Lincoln.

    •  Lincoln's views of black Americans (0+ / 0-)

      were pretty dismal, and only stopped slavery in territories "in rebellion" i.e. where he lacked effective jurisdiction, leaving Maryland (until it abolished slavery a year later independently) and Delaware as slave states.  While there are some who will call him "the Great Emanicipator", he cared about preserving the union far more than about the welfare of black slaves and freemen.

      Lincoln had it backwards.  He should have cared everything about human liberty and little or none about preserving the union.  So let us liberals, the heirs of the real abolitionists of that time, give him his due - as the ruthless, unprincipled seeker of federal power and continuity of territorial integrity, for whom slavery was a mere side show.

      •  Wow, (0+ / 0-)

        that's some strong kool-aid.

        "I desire what is good. Therefore, everyone who does not agree with me is a traitor." King George III

        by ogre on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:35:49 AM PDT

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        •  The hagiography of this troubled, compromised man (0+ / 0-)

          should end.  Lincoln himself stated that if he could preserve the union by maintaining slavery, he would do so.  

          If this be kool-aid, make mine grape.  

          •  Oath of office. (1+ / 0-)
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            "I desire what is good. Therefore, everyone who does not agree with me is a traitor." King George III

            by ogre on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:49:10 AM PDT

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          •  Let's get the record straight. (3+ / 0-)

            Abraham Lincoln
            Speech at Chicago, Illinois
            March 1, 1859

            I do not wish to be misunderstood upon this subject of slavery in this country. I suppose it may long exist, and perhaps the best way for it to come to an end peaceably is for it to exist for a length of time. But I say that the spread and strengthening and perpetuation of it is an entirely different proposition. There we should in every way resist it as a wrong, treating it as a wrong, with the fixed idea that it must and will come to an end.

            Does that make him any less of an abolitionist?  After all, he got the job done, in the end.  And he lost his life for it.

            •  I would - respectfully - say 'non-abolitionist' (1+ / 0-)
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              if he was so at peace with the idea that slavery "may long exist" for a "length of time."  Others were braver, more principled and earned the label abolitionist.  But you are absolutely right to go to what the man actually said.  That is where the debate belongs.

              I do not claim to know whether it was slavery itself or other issues that led Booth to organize an assassination plot.  Booth had been previously arrested for making seditious remarks during a time of war.  Some of his people came from Maryland and resent the military rule of Maryland during the Civil War.

              Had Lincoln been an abolitionist, I would submit that he would have taken action to abolish slavery from day one or close to it everywhere, not in the last half of his term and not only in the territories he no longer even governed.  What Lincoln cared about was the union, and he worked cynically and ruthlessly to preserve it.  It doesn't make Lincoln the devil to say he was ruthless and no abolitionist.  Joe Lieberman is not the devil either but he cynically and ruthlessly uses liberal values and aspirations to maintain power, and deserves no extraordinary liberal praise IMO either.

          •  Good luck with that. (0+ / 0-)

            De-bunking Lincoln.  Now that's a crusade I don't want to be a part of.

            Likely to be as politically fruitful as the right-wingers who continue to go after MLK.

      •  Lay off the cool aid brother... (0+ / 0-)

        Like him or not, without the backbone of Lincoln slavery would have dragged on for years.  Congratulations on your PHD in revisionism.  I am in awe of your ability to still be burned by a dead president who took one in the forehead for the principles he believed in, for doing more to progress the black cause than any president before or since, and for a man that predicated all decisions in office to preserve our union.

        As a hater of, "federal power and continuity of territorial integrity" I assume you are for smaller government, fewer federal social programs, and responsibility for civil governance at the state level?  And I thought I would never find another conservative on this web site!  Good to meet you brother.  What do you think about Lieberman running as a Republican...  

      •  Lincoln and abolitionists open to criticism (0+ / 0-)

        Yes, Lincoln was very pragmatic on the slavery issue and held views that today would definitely qualify him as a racist.  Of course, his defenders try to answer by saying those were different times....  Admittedly, he got the job of ending slavery done, sort of.

        Most abolitionists were religious nuts, very unsavory types.  They were certainly right about ending slavery, but it's very problematic to go tracing liberal roots back to bible-thumping zealots.

  •  Florida 2000 (25+ / 0-)

    Hard to imagine a greater offense to the civil-rights tradition than systematically disenfranchising African-American voters in the Sunshine State. I doubt Bush took questions--he can't handle it--but I would have loved for someone to have asked him what he thinks of Katherine Harris's Senate candidacy. Or Blackwell's in Ohio.

    •  Or the NAACP from Jan., 2001-now (10+ / 0-)

      Isn't ironic when someone "laments" a state of affairs after having done nothing (at best) to ameliorate the situation?

      WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
      President George W. Bush, addressing America's leading civil rights organization for the first time since he took office, lamented the poor relationship between blacks and his Republican Party.

      When did Bush last address the NAACP? That's right; during run-up to the 2000 election. As one woman in attendance wisely told the NPR reporter covering the event, "Honey, it's too late to get points for just showin' up!" And showin' up is all Bush will do, but don't expect anything concrete expression in the way of emergency disaster releief or the like. The man can "lament" if he wants, but, first, he should apologize.

      "You can't talk to the ignorant about lies, since they have no criteria." --Ezra Pound

      by machopicasso on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:51:19 AM PDT

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    •  Voting your values, Valuing your votes! (3+ / 0-)

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      The theme for the convention speaks directly to the franchise and how it has been denied to African Americans. The convention also speaks to not being pulled into the Republican game of one issue voting.

      NO PAWNS... don't drink the koolaid.

      97% disapproval ratings reflect that most African Americans see the king dost whereth no garments. That good-ol-boy persona doesn't sell well. We've seen it before...

      Edward R. Murrow:We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

      by digital drano on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:08:27 AM PDT

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  •  damn right (28+ / 0-)

    Republicans didn't "write off" blacks, they used them as a demonizable prop to bring in the Dixiecrat vote into their fold.

  •  Frontrunner to be his Republican successor.. (7+ / 0-)

    ... was at one point George Allen. I dunno if he still is, but I just finished reading a pretty disturbing article which says he was not only sadistic with his family when he was young but also went around wearing confederate flags and so on despite never living in the south. There were also apparently some issues with racist graffiti at high school.

    Apparently, he's one of the favourites for the Republican nomination amongst "the base" at the moment. A poll currently on RedState puts him as favourite there.

    What a disaster, to replace a closet racist with one that's even more public about it.

    "In America fundamentalist Christians believe the world was created 6,000 years ago - in England people drink in bars that are older than that." - Steve Aylett

    by Mephistopheles on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:27:04 AM PDT

    •  A complete nutbag, hence a frontrunner (5+ / 0-)

      George Allen is no more a cowboy or a southerner than Bush is a Texan.  Actually, a lot less so.  What Allen clearly is in touch with is his inner honky, but in a cheesy faux manner that tends to suggest that he has an organic brain disorder, rather than any coherent set of beliefs.  In short, he is an odd form of romantic who for whatever reason is drawn to archaic belief systems.

      As such, perhaps he is a perfect candidate for the retro-party.  Why not go all the way, though, and declare himself a truly true American, a Chippewa?  He could start styling himself as George "Scalptaker" Allen or George "Deerhumper" Allen, Jr.  But why stop there?  Heck, even more original than that would be to declare himself a Giant Sloth, a true American native of an even earlier era!

      Please, Jim Webb, save us from this nutbag.

      •  Didn't his Senate opponent make fun of him (5+ / 0-)

        saying he was a fake cowboy who lived in a glass houses:

        “While Jim Webb and others of George Felix Allen Jr.’s generation were fighting for our freedoms and for our symbols of freedom in Vietnam, George Felix Allen Jr. was playing cowboy at a dude ranch in Nevada. People who live in glass dude ranches should not question the patriotism of real soldiers who fought and bled for this country on a real battlefield,” Jarding said.

        Story here: http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.c...

        I don't know why we don't show James Webb more love$$$.  I am going over to throw him some for that great quote from his campaign.

        My file on Adigal: Another one of them left wing girls way too smart for our own good. Her phones need to be monitored.

        by adigal on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:05:10 AM PDT

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  •  stars and bars (0+ / 0-)

    they need more Redneck flags and their not as dumb as the average Republican

    Where does the REPUBLICAN cup of kindness run; it runith right up your ass

    by roxnev on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:28:18 AM PDT

  •  Bush actually 'laments' something? (8+ / 0-)

    Now, that would be news . . .

  •  Biff goes off on the estate tax (12+ / 0-)

    Bush tells African americans they should back the repeal. Fact: Only 59 African Americans will pay any estate tax this year, and that will drop to 33 next year (thanks to ThinkProgress)

  •  Not all Republicans are racist. (9+ / 0-)

    But all racists are Republicans.
    Why should Blacks join them in their rotten party?

  •  Sad that the party of Abraham Lincoln .... (8+ / 0-)

    ... doesn't remember his immortal words:
    "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

  •  Poor relations?! (17+ / 0-)

    Irony could slap GWB in the face and he wouldn't recognize it.  He has declined to speak to the largest organization of blacks for his entire term, and then he laments his party's neglect of them?  Unreal.

  •  Rutherford B. Hayes (5+ / 0-)

    Don't forget Hayes agreeing to end reconstruction in exchange for the presidency.  The Republicans started ignoring African-Americans in order to consolidate power pretty damn fast.

  •  Bush wrote off the NAACP for the 1st 6yrs of his (5+ / 0-)


  •  I am suprised (7+ / 0-)

    that he did not tell black people that it is the welfare queen's fault the federal gov't was so slow to act in NO.

    Give me a f'ing banana - Eddie Izzard

    by linc on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:30:17 AM PDT

  •  Idiot (7+ / 0-)

    Just keep talking, moron. That big ole silver foot just won't stay away from your gibbering gob.

    He also, never mentioned the word "poverty", choosing instead to promote the repeal of the "death tax", on behalf of the 59 African Americans who will be subject to it this year.

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:30:30 AM PDT

  •  It really made me ill to listen to the new NAACP (4+ / 0-)
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    president Bruce somebody talk about how they really want to meet with Bush face to face and hear him talk.

    I know I know talking is better than shouting or shooting, but still groveling to get the b******d to talk to them is just hideous.

  •  I recall... (6+ / 0-)

    ...years ago during a GOP convention (can't recall if it was '88 or '92) hearing a soundbite on NPR of Ralph Reed invoking the principles on which the Republican party was originally founded in 1856.  "Sure," I muttered at my car radio. "The GOP was founded on the principles that slavery was immoral and blacks were inferior to whites. And you assholes still think that!"

    I've seen no reason to revisit that assessment in the intervening years.  Quite the opposite, in fact...

    "...the big trouble with dumb bastards is that they are too dumb to believe there is such a thing as being smart." -- Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

    by Roddy McCorley on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:32:24 AM PDT

  •  Angry Delivery (10+ / 0-)

    As I noted on an earlier diary, the King's delivery of his speech to the NAACP was extremely angry. He was shouting a lot - not that he was struggling to be heard over the one person in the audience clapping into a microphone - and seemed rather petulant in his delivery.

    And yes, the speech was it's usual lie-filled mush about the ownership society and how No Child Left Behind has improved education. Nothing new, except the completely silly lament offered by Kos above, easily disproven by the actions of his own party.

  •  The sons of the Willie Horton ad (10+ / 0-)

    The current Republican party actually DOES care about black people.  I cares about using them as a tool to frighten voters into supporting the Republican party.  Aside from that, and aside from several light-skinned assimilated blacks in the cabinet, the African-American community has been written off.

    Bush is a scalliwag and his audience understood exactly what he was trying to convince them of, and they weren't buying it.

  •  I loved the part of the speech (3+ / 0-)
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    where he breezes right over the federal govmint's response to Katrina to pat himself on the back for looking past that and discussing the future.

    That was a lovely bunch of bullshit there.

    Who Burns for the Perfection of Paper - Martin Espada

    by demkat620 on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:35:59 AM PDT

  •  Why did they let Bush speak... (6+ / 0-)

    What does the NAACP get from having this moron come give an insulting speech?

    This preznident has not done a damn thing for African Americans since his election.  He has refused to speak at their prior meetings and as Katrina made clear, he has written them off.

    I don't understand why they would allow Bush one of his phony photo ops..."Look everyone, I'm talking to some negroes.  Maybe some negroes will vote for my party now. Heh heh."

    I think I'm going to be sick!

    "Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism." Tommy J.

    •  Did they (3+ / 0-)
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      throw things at him? I sure would have...

      Or were they searched before they entered the hall/room?

      •  Very little applause (2+ / 0-)
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        Most of Bush's "pause while room errupts in clapping and hollering" lines in his speech fell flat.  The applause was right near the microphone and dropped off immediately.

        You could compare it with lines that the crowd obviously agreed with, like a shout out to someone they like, long loud applause beyond the immediate range of the mic and whistles and stamps.

        As it went on and Bush didn't get the applause he expected, he got louder and more forceful.   I half expected him to bang his shoe on the podium.

        The Next Agenda "For Progressive Canadian Politics"

        by Bionic on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:08:01 AM PDT

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    •  I Know (2+ / 0-)
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      I don't get it either.  The fraudulency of the whole thing is totally annoying.

      It reminds me of this great thought I had once...What if EVERY European Diplomat just completely SHUNNED Condelezza Rice?  That would be beautiful.

      Remember when John Houseman shrouded Timothy Bottoms in The Paper Chase?  That's one of my analogous principles.  Shroud the (ill-prepared) motherfuckers.

    •  every President since Warren Harding (8+ / 0-)

      The NAACP was founded in 1909.  Taft and Wilson did not meet with them in the earliest years of its existence, but every President since Warren Harding has either met with their leadership or spoken before a meeting of their membership.  Even Reagan.  Even Nixon, despite his people being the originators of the Southern Strategy.

      GDub in refusing to meet/speak was threatening this 80+ year tradition.  That's why the NAACP kept inviting him after the first five years of snubs.

      Honestly, I think they should have stopped issuing invitations to him.  His being the first President in the modern era to refuse them is an accurate statement of his values and his character--and says more about him than about the relative merit of the NAACP.

      Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D. IMPEACH!

      by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:02:52 AM PDT

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    •  I heard on NPR (0+ / 0-)

      I heard on NPR that the current NAACP president used to head up Verizon or was in a position of power on their board....something to that effect. He some how has ties to Bush (hummm, warrantless wiretaps connection?) Perhaps this is Bush's way of saying, 'hey thanks for cooperating <wink, wink>.

      On the same report (this was last night) Juan Williams said that Bush was going to discuss what he's done for civil rights (choke, choke) and how he has had 2 prominent African Americans in his administration (Powell, Condi).

    •  They shined his shoe brightly (0+ / 0-)

      so we could all see him stick his foot in his mouth once again.

  •  WSJ (6+ / 0-)

    The Wall Street Journal has a one sentence comment in the blurbs they do on the front page:

    Senators rushed to extend the Voting Rights Act before Bush speaks to the NAACP today.

    "All My Heroes Have Always Been Democrats" -- Al Rodgers (and me too now that he mentions it).

    by OLinda on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:37:28 AM PDT

  •  I can't believe he... (8+ / 0-)

    said this with a straight face (disclaimer- I didn't watch, only read the transcript :-))

    I come from a family committed to civil rights," Bush said. "My faith tells me that we are all children of God -- equally loved, equally cherished, equally entitled to the rights He grants us all.     [emphasis mine]

    So, if we're all equal and "He" grants us all the same rights...  then why are some treated UNequally when it comes to the civil right to marry?

    Guess some people are more equal than others. "I come from a family committed to civil rights" my ass.

    What happened in Vegas must not STAY in Vegas.

    by brillig on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:37:45 AM PDT

  •  'For too long my party...' (5+ / 0-)

    "For too long my party wrote off the African American vote"

    "My party"?

    Geez, look in the mirror, George!

  •  Black folks have a pretty good bullshit detector (7+ / 0-)

    Just because they applauded... just because he got a "warm reception"... doesn't mean he'll garner any more support from them than he already has.

  •  Republicans earned this 100%. Racist Assholes. (8+ / 1-)

    George Bush don't like black people

    Hurricane came through, fucked us up round here
    Government acting like it's bad luck down here
    All I know is that you better bring some trucks round here
    Wonder why I got my middle finger up round here

    People lives on the line you declining to help
    Since you taking so much time we surviving ourself
    Just me and my pets, and my kids, and my spouse, trapped
    In my own house looking for a way out (pause)

    Five days in this motherfucking attic
    Can't use the cellphone I keep getting static
    Dying 'cause they lying instead of telling us the truth
    Other day the helicopters got my neighbors off the roof (off the roof)

    Screwed 'cause they say they coming back for us too
    That was three days ago, I don't see no rescue
    See a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do
    Since God made the path that I'm trying to walk through

    Swam to the store, tryin' to look for food
    Corner store's kinda flooded so I broke my way through
    I got what I could but before I got through
    News say the police shot a black man trying to loot

    (Who!?) Don't like black people
    George Bush don't like black people
    George Bush don't like black people
    George Bush don't like 'em

    I ain't saying he a goldigger,

    but he ain't fucking with no broke niggas
    I ain't saying he a goldigger,

    but he ain't checking for no broke niggas

    George Bush don't like black people
    George Bush don't like black people
    George Bush don't like black people
    George Bush don't like black people

    Five damn days, five long days
    And at the end of the fifth he walking in like "Hey!"
    Chilling on his vacation sitting patiently
    Them black folks gotta hope, gotta wait and see

    If FEMA really comes through in an emergency
    But nobody seem to have a sense of urgency
    Now the mayor's been reduced to crying
    I guess Bush said, "Nigga's been used to dying!"

    He said, "I know it looks bad, just have to wait"
    Forgetting folks who too broke to evacuate
    Niggas starving and they dying of thirst
    I bet he had to go and check on them refineries first

    Making a killing off the price of gas
    He would have been up in Conneticut twice as fast
    After all that we've been through nothing's changed
    You can call Red Cross but the fact remains that...

  •  Bush trying to use Abe Lincoln as a (4+ / 0-)

    hood ornament on top of the Republican white sheet is sort of disingenuous.

    At every turn, Republicans have behind demonizing black people, black Culture and destroying any opportunity for black advancement.

    Oh, they're good .. they use symbols like Colin and Condi, to try to squelch what the legislation, selective outrage at encroachment of 'States Rights' and code words of class warfare having been telling America for the past 40 years .. the Republicans are NOT the Party of Lincoln.

    I think, somehow, most thinking people see through the attempt.

    Journalistic standards aren't just for 'journalists', anymore.
    We're all journalists, now.- 8.69, - 9.69

    by shpilk on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:38:42 AM PDT

    •  Four score give or take a few years... (0+ / 0-)

      Black folks left the party of Lincoln for the party of FDR. Repubs made very little effort to win them back. Then they took in the Dixicrats when American-apartheid laws fell and Black's right to vote was reaffirmed.

      What a legacy!

      To harken back to the policies of a President who lived  seven score years ago is hysterically funny and pathetic.

      Bush is the leader of the free world, the enforcer of democracy abroad, the compassionate Christian. Who has stopped GWB from genuinely embracing African Americans and their issues?

      The Republican Party. Ha! The I've-never-seen-a-rubber-stamp-I-didn't-like Republican Party. LMAO.

      After all, he IS the decider, isn't he?

      Edward R. Murrow:We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

      by digital drano on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:47:01 AM PDT

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    •  I'm from the party of Shirley Chisholm, (2+ / 0-)
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      Ralph Abernathy, Martin Luther King, Coretta Scott King, Jesse Jackson, Andrew Young, John Conyers and Barak Obama.

      And he's from the party of...Clarence Thomas, Kenneth Blackwell, Michael Steele, Janice Rogers Brown...

      I'll take my party any day!

  •  I loved this from the AP article (3+ / 0-)
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    Bush drew roars of approval from members of the NAACP gathered for their 97th annual convention when he criticized his party, which is campaigning to keep control of Congress in November's elections, for writing off the black vote in the past.

    I watched it. He got a good response to that but hardly roars of approval. The only roars of approval came at the end when bush mentioned his support for the VRA with NO ammendments. Funny that bush's own party doesn't want that. The rest of the time the response was tepid at best.  He got a minor reaction after the heckler incident, but I think that was mostly sympathy.  His whole attitude from the dias seemed pretty angry and challenging to me.  It clearly wasn't his best speech.  It was a very misleading article as is usually the case for the AP.

    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness." Mark Twain

    by dougymi on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:38:54 AM PDT

  •  a brief summary of the Southern Strategy (4+ / 0-)

    anyone looking for a brief history of how the Dixiecrats became Republicans might want to read an old diary of mine: Southern Racial Politics 101: Good News coming in 2014?

    The title comes from a famous Lyndon Johnson quote after signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964:  "I've just handed the South to the Republican party for the next fifty years."  Amazingly for those of us who remember those days, the 50 years are almost up.  I am holding out hope that the natural cyclical realignment combined with Dean's 50 state strategy will bring Democrats back in the fold a few years sooner than that.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D. IMPEACH!

    by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:39:27 AM PDT

  •  'Let Go' of African Americans? (5+ / 0-)
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    Is that what the GOP is calling the racist 'Southern Strategy' now? Purging African American voters from Florida's voting roles... for the 'pre-crime' of potentially voting while Democratic and black?

    "I think The New York Times has forgotten that New York is the place 9/11 happened." Mort "Coulter" Kondracke

    by LeftHandedMan on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:40:24 AM PDT

    •  they did more than let em go alright (0+ / 0-)

      they told em to take a hike, they had southern whites now (taken from the Democrats after 100 years of Lincoln-hating), and didn't need blacks anymore.

      Of course, the southern GOP, such as it existed during the 1880-1960 era, had been busily purging blacks for a good lone time anyhow, trying to win over whites.  Do a search for "lily-white Republican" to find some interesting literature about that mostly-ignored political movement.

      All your vote are belong to us. Warner/Feingold 2008

      by Harkov311 on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 03:16:25 PM PDT

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  •  Politically inspired by... (2+ / 0-)
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    Politically inspired by Nero and Marie Antionette - Bush played guitar while New Orleans drowned, then later ate cake.

    And Condi got a bunch of spiffy new shoes.

  •  You Notice (9+ / 0-)

    That he doesn't apologize for using a horribly racist Southern Strategy to win elections for the last 40 years.

    Ken Mehlman had one of these "confessons" a while back. He apologized for the tactics. But he never apologized for the winning.

    The South has truly never forgiven Democrats for what Lyndon Johnson did in the name of making this country live up to the whole "all men are created equal" thing.

    So they're done milking that cow after 40 years. Now it's on to the gay people for the next 40.

    The Republican Party: Keeping America Fact-Free Since 2001

    by IndyScott on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:45:32 AM PDT

    •  they are not done (4+ / 0-)

      milking this one .. they are trying to have their cake and eat it too ..

      it's just more the same Rape-publican lying ..

      Journalistic standards aren't just for 'journalists', anymore.
      We're all journalists, now.- 8.69, - 9.69

      by shpilk on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:50:03 AM PDT

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    •  The South (1+ / 0-)
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      thats a big overstatement. MOst in the south certainly HAVE forgiven Dems, or at least WOULD forgive Dems if Republicans weren't hitting us hard there on other issues. Race is not the #1 reason to vote Republican for most southerners. I take offense to that.

      "If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." Abe Lincoln

      by faithfull on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:57:00 AM PDT

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      •  offense? (0+ / 0-)

        I take offense that the South is so damn red. And it is race. And it is religion, which is probably just as bad.

        •  Religion (0+ / 0-)

          I hate that the South is red as much as anybody. I dont think it should be. I dont think it fits our values.

          And it is NOT race. Maybe more than in the North, but a lot of the districts are more highly segregated. But its not that we are all racist. I grew up liking Republicans, just because I thought they talked like normal people. In 2000 (at age 17) I thought that Al Gore was "kind of a douche" and that George W. Bush would be a much stronger leader. Im white. Im not racist. I have friends from all over the world. But thats how I felt. It doesnt have that much to do with race anymore. Thats rediculous.

          Religion, among other things, yes. Republicans hijacked religion, especially the Baptist one. But that doesnt make it a bad thing. Im not religious at all. But my family is, and my girlfriend is, and they vote Democratic.

          Taking the religious vote is in NO way as bad as taking the racist vote. thats absurd.

          "If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." Abe Lincoln

          by faithfull on Fri Jul 21, 2006 at 07:50:07 AM PDT

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  •  my cyncial explanation for GDub's speech (6+ / 0-)

    this is part of a comment I made on the PsiFighter37 diary on this topic yesterday:

    ... [W]henever BushCo does something that appears to make no sense, it only means we are not being cynical enough in our effort to understand them.

    cynical explanation #1:  this [speech] is NOT directed at the black community at all, but designed to give a talking point to BushCo apologists who are trying to persuade soccer moms and other purple voters that Bush is a "compassionate conservative" and not a racist. Blacks with any level of political savvy (such as the attendees at the NAACP event) will not be fooled by any "Party of Lincoln" crap GDub has to say, but gullible Faux News viewers will be fooled by the sound bites and photo ops the Grand Oil Party will mine from the NAACP event.

    even more cynical explanation:   I think he's laying the groundwork for egregious vote switching in black areas in 2006.  When pundits question the eyepopping black voting stats, and an unprecedented level of Black votes for Republicans in the midterms, they will have prepared the perfect foundation for this lie:  "Oh, the reason a record number of blacks voted for Bush in this precinct/city/state is a response to his groundbreaking speech at the NAACP, the black church stand on gay marriage, and how proud the community is of CondoLIEza Rice."

    Sometimes I think I am being ridiculous.

    Sometimes I think I am not nearly cynical enough.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D. IMPEACH!

    by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:50:37 AM PDT

  •  The president and the Voting Rights Act (4+ / 0-)
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    This is from the Chicago Defender, dated 1/27/05:

    "I don't know anything about the 1965 Voting Rights Act," Jackson (Jesse Jr.) recalled the president saying in an interview with the Chicago Defender.

    "It was so unbelievable to me that as soon as I walked out, I got Frank (Watkins, Jackson's top legislative aide) on the telephone, put  (Congresswoman) Maxine (Waters, D-Calif.) and Shelia Jackson Lee (D-Texas) on, so that I could confirm what he just said is what I heard," Jackson said.

    Rep. Bobby Rush said that he recalled the president saying he was "unfamiliar" with the Voting Rights Act.

  •  did the compassionate conservative (4+ / 0-)

    remind his audience that he visited a park in Botswana?

    Its #4.

    ~ have a powerful day ~

    by moeman on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:52:41 AM PDT

  •  Very Telling (4+ / 0-)
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    That Bush has to go back to the time of Abe Lincoln to remember the last time there were "historic ties". Abe Lincoln would throw up on these Neo-con Whackjobs.

    Republicans- Proudly Destroying the Middle Class of the United States

    by Ky DEM on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 10:53:00 AM PDT

    •  bwwaaha! (0+ / 0-)

      KY has an amazing racial history btw. caught between North and South, power held in the mountain east(fewer slaves) rather than the flat west.

      Cool stuff. funny post.

      "If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." Abe Lincoln

      by faithfull on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:52:34 AM PDT

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  •  The Goal of Republican Outreach (9+ / 0-)

    In almost all cases when the Republican Party reaches out to black voters, it's really an effort to make it safe for white suburbanites to vote for Republicans.  White suburbanites may fear black people, but they don't want to feel openly racist.  They want to feel good about their party, so the party has to give them cover.  Outreach in this form is meant to give them such cover.

    •  yes yes yes! 100% right, Misplaced Patriot! (2+ / 0-)
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      I believe this is the true reason for the speech.

      your whole post deserves repeating: (bold font and cynical quote mark emphasis added by TBM)

      The Goal of Republican "Outreach"

      In almost all cases when the Republican Party reaches out to black voters, it's really an effort to make it safe for white suburbanites to vote for Republicans.  White suburbanites may fear black people, but they don't want to feel openly racist.  They want to feel good about their party, so the party has to give them cover. "Outreach" in this form is meant to give them such cover.

      Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D. IMPEACH!

      by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:08:29 AM PDT

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  •  LOL...according to WaPo... (7+ / 0-)

    "Bush's remarks met with largely lukewarm applause from the crowd and at one point near the end of his speech, two hecklers threatened to disrupt the address. The president pressed ahead undaunted, though."

    This is news! He made it through a speech "undaunted" even though those scary hecklers were threatening him!! Shocking!!

    and I love this part:

    "He said he realized racism still lingered in the United States."

    Stop the press!! Bush is aware of racism!!

    fucking moron.

  •  XM channel 169 The Power (3+ / 0-)
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    has covered the NAACP convention all week. During lunch, I was able to hear some of the commentators like Julianne Malveaux and others discuss Bush's speech. I remember one guy said that Bush talking before a civil rights group isn't new. He talked to the Urban League 2x, made the same promises and done nothing. In other words, the response to Bush's speech was very skeptical.

    I was proud of the participants that they didn't protest too loudly except for that one heckler. I figured that they would give him a polite but subdued response--kind of like the audience's response at Coretta Scott King's funeral. I think many AA go by the notion to disagree w/o being disagreeable like Tavis Smiley often says....

    I didn't listen to the entire speech, but I think the portion of his speech about black economic empowerment along with his promises to sign the Voting Rights Act went over a bit better with the crowd than other parts of his speech. I would imagine that most of the audience was comprised of middle class African-Americans (many from PG County, MD) who might be attracted to his appeals that African-Americans need to build more wealth. That principle is contained in Tavis Smiley's "Covenant with Black America," a VERY influential book on the reading lists of many African-Americans right now.

    After Hurricane Katrina, many in the AA community began taking a closer look at wealth disparities b/w whites and blacks. I'm not talking about poverty figures, but wealth accumulation figures, particularly for middle class AAs, ie lack of savings/investments within the AA community. I've heard that Michael Steele is talking about the same thing in PG county so it looks like a coordinated GOP message. I'm not sure how effective it will be come November....


  •  To paraphrase K West (3+ / 0-)
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    "Bush doesn't care about Black People"

    Bush only cares about his family, his partners, his stockholders.

    &*#@$%^ Hypocrite.

    "A child miseducated is a child lost" John F. Kennedy

    by Pam from Calif on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:04:11 AM PDT

  •  As (7+ / 0-)

    an advocate for juvenile justice reform, I can tell you Bush & Co is no friend of black children. They fill our prisons and detention centers in unequal numbers, being denied bail, given longer sentences than white kids and have the worst representation. William Thornton,IV (16)is serving 30 years for a fatal car accident which involved admittedly poor signage. He was a good student, had no police record, held a job after school washing semi trucks, and had no street smarts. This is basically a life sentence for him. Jeb Bush tried to cover up the murder of a black boy in a Floria boot camp who was slowly beaten to death over a 30 minute period, had amonia tablets forced up his nose and who eventually died of suffocation before they called an ambulance. The corrupt cororner stated he died of Sickle Cell Anemia (how stereotypical is that?). He was appointed by Bush years ago. If not for University of Florida students, Bush wouldn't have been called on this. Black people are't as stupid as Bush thinks they are. They know the score. Conye was exactly right.  

  •  Oh and, (1+ / 0-)
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    poor William was sent directly to adult prison with the rapists, sociopaths and murders.

  •  Oh and, (2+ / 0-)
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    one more thing, Laura Bush blew a stop sign when she was William's age down there in Texas and killed someone. She never saw a courtroom.

  •  Lands Sakes Alive to Goodness! (1+ / 0-)
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    I wonder if he's planning on also publicly lamenting the Republican Party's poor relations with liberals, scientists, academia, environmentalists, gays who want to marry, feminists, and the families of the Iraq War dead and people who hope breakthroughs in stem cell research will save their lives.

    "It's their own fault! They never vote for us!"


    by AdmiralNaismith on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:21:40 AM PDT

  •  Isn't this the same guy (7+ / 0-)

    whose campaign tried to smear McCain with push polls about (horrors!) him having a black child?

    They exploit ignorance and racism when it suits them, and embrace blacks when elections come around.

    The bushies are whores.  Surprise!  

  •  Bob Jones U (4+ / 0-)

    Let's not forget that this is the same asshole who went out of his way to speak at Bob Jones U in the 2000 campaign as a way of signaling to racists and bigots everywhere that he was a "safe" vote for them.

  •  well (0+ / 0-)

    he's getting his feet wet...i guess thats better than nothing

    Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge

    by Cat4everrr on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:26:31 AM PDT

  •  Misfiring neurons... or morons... (1+ / 0-)
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    Did the speech writing session employ the G8 method -"I'm just going to make it up. I'm not going to talk too damn long like the rest of them. Some of these guys talk too long."

    by the way:  "Russia's a big country and you're a big country"

  •  The Ramblings of a madaman (4+ / 0-)

    Seems pretty likely to me he is on the verge of a total mental breakdown - only modern pharmaceuticals and protection from the corporate media are what is maintaining the illusion that he is sane.

  •  Wasn't it cool (0+ / 0-)

    when the Democrats nominated an African American Supreme Court Justice, an African American Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, an African American Secretary of State and an African American Woman for SOS. Oh, wait ...

    A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation. - James Freeman Clarke

    by Marc B on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:31:41 AM PDT

    •  They could be purple (0+ / 0-)

      if they don't reflect my views what difference does it make.

      •  But I thought (0+ / 0-)

        liberals were Affirmative Action proponents?  That seems like a distinctly anti Affirmative Action statement.  

        So, the arguments on this thread seem to go along the lines of he doesn't care about blacks, and those blacks that he does appoint to positions of power don't matter because they are not liberals.  

        A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation. - James Freeman Clarke

        by Marc B on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 12:00:56 PM PDT

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        •  I don't get your point (0+ / 0-)

          Are you saying that in order to favor affirmative action you have to support Clarence Thomas?

          •  Actually (3+ / 0-)
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            It sounds more like Marc B is saying that you should make high-level appointments of people who LOOK LIKE the constituency you want to lieu of actually doing things that work in their interest

            It is amazing how much can be accomplished when you don't care who gets the credit - Harry Truman
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            by floundericiousMI on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 12:12:08 PM PDT

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            •  Thanks for clearing that up (0+ / 0-)

              Now I understand. Completely.

              •  I thought (0+ / 0-)

                the Secretary of State's (or a Supreme Court Justice's) 'constituency' is the citizens of the US.  I didn't know that Condi was supposed to do things only in the interest of African Americans.  I understand now.  Bush will only get credit if he appoints African Americans in positions of power who pander to African American interests.

                A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation. - James Freeman Clarke

                by Marc B on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 12:22:24 PM PDT

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                •  Uuuuuhhhhhh (0+ / 0-)

                  Whatever you're smoking, can I please have some?

                  I totally agree...what was your original POINT?  I read you as making a snark at Dems for not appointing Af-Am cabinet members

                  It is amazing how much can be accomplished when you don't care who gets the credit - Harry Truman
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                  by floundericiousMI on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 12:45:55 PM PDT

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                  •  Isn't the whole (1+ / 0-)
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                    gist of this thread that Bush doesn't care about African Americans, is a racist, and promotes racist thinking to get more Republican votes - especially in the South?  

                    How does promoting African Americans to positions of power within his cabinet square with the ideas being promoted by liberals on this thread?  To me, it doesn't make any sense.  I guess he is one of those funny racists who make one of his closest advisors a minority of the race he 'doesn't care' about.  

                    I am certainly agreeable to the fact that probably 90% of his policies are in direct contradiction to the Congressional Black Caucus position (whose positions are not necessarily all pro African American, see School Vouchers for instance), but he is being criticized personally as a racist and a race baiter, not because of policy disputes, but because liberals don't like him.

                    A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation. - James Freeman Clarke

                    by Marc B on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 01:46:29 PM PDT

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                    •  Ok, understand you now (1+ / 0-)
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                      Again, this is Rovian planning..

                      It's all about the appearance of having black/brown/non-caucasian folks represented.  Never mind the fact that those folks have no teeth and do as they're told, especially when it comes to using their position to funnel contracts to GOP friends

                      It is amazing how much can be accomplished when you don't care who gets the credit - Harry Truman
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                      by floundericiousMI on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 02:48:38 PM PDT

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        •  nope (0+ / 0-)

          we don't care that they're not liberals, we just care that they are idiots.

    •  I Don't Know (1+ / 0-)
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      If Bush is a racist, but it seems rather obvious that his policies hurt blacks, whites, yellows and everything in between.  I'm white.  If the NAACP stands by its name, though, why invite someone like Bush to speak in front of them?  He has no interest in the advancement of anything but his "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base" chums.

      As far as those you mention, so what?  Thomas was never remotely qualified and still isn't, Powell admits he let himself be used as basically a liar to sell what might be the worst foreign policy decision in American History, and Condeleeza "Mushroom Cloud" Rice is just a liar.  Big Thank You for all races on those choices.

  •  The NAACP (4+ / 0-)
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    should have boycotted Bush, instead of the other way around. Why give him a platform? Instead of inviting him yet again, they should have unabashedly announced that they would no longer request his appearance because of his stands on issues important to African american voters.  This would have been more in keeping with their constituents who have long turned their backs on this president.

  •  Well... (2+ / 0-)
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    it's not as bad as a Nazi lamenting bad relations with the Jews, but it's on that spectrum.

    Having demonized, abused, neglected and misused them... why oh why are there bad relations?

    "I desire what is good. Therefore, everyone who does not agree with me is a traitor." King George III

    by ogre on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:33:57 AM PDT

  •  Today in North Central Florida (5+ / 0-)
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    I passed a pickup truck, a souped-up version on oversized wheels (he must have a little dick), with a black and white bumper sticker that read:


    The graphic to the side of the quotation was a picture of a state capital dome flying a confederate flag.

    The Republican Party in general (and Reagan, GWHBush, and GWBush in particular) can take credit for the continued travesty of bigotry and racism that still pervades our nation.

    Thanks, GOP. You have done your job well.

    "Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." --George W. Bush

    by RevJoe on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:37:31 AM PDT

    •  LOL (0+ / 0-)

      need to find that car in the parking lot and put one of those STUPID "bullet hole" stickers over the confederate flag

      It is amazing how much can be accomplished when you don't care who gets the credit - Harry Truman
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      by floundericiousMI on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 12:28:56 PM PDT

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  •  Audacity (3+ / 0-)
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    is the only word I could think of in reference to his speech.

    For the president (small p intentional) to speak to African-Americans about the Voting Rights Act of 1965, after what his party did to African-American voters in Florida and Ohio, can only be termed hypocrisy and lying, to my mind.

  •  Exactly. (2+ / 0-)
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    Repubs always bring up the Lincoln card. But they fail to point out that the kind of people in the South who would have opposed Lincoln if he were alive today have all long since turned Republican.

    Think twice the next time you encounter dry kindling and someone offers you a match.

    by BentLiberal on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 11:51:49 AM PDT

  •  One Phrase explains it all... (0+ / 0-)

    ...low poll ratings. He has nothing to lose.

    Do you think he would be going to the NAACP Convention if his poll ratings were 70% or higher. He claimed it was the "words", "name calling", etc. from the NAACP that kept him from coming. That is a bucket of country shit. Bush listens to people call him names everyday. Do the words have more power/sting coming from the African American community.

  •  Here's what Bush meant: (2+ / 0-)
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    If we weren't such racist assholes who've continually pandered to racist whites, we might actually have held onto some of the black vote we used to take for granted--and be decent people to boot. No wonder they hate us.

    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

    by kovie on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 12:08:24 PM PDT

  •  What a wanker...check this out: (3+ / 0-)

    AP article on NAACP speech

    Bush also recalled his visit in June to Elvis Presley's Graceland mansion in Memphis, Tenn., with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi. While in Memphis, the two made an unscheduled stop at the National Civil Rights Museum at The Lorraine Motel, where the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in 1968. Bush and Koizumi emerged from a tour to stand on the spot on the motel balcony where King was slain.

    They were joined by former NAACP head Benjamin Hooks.

    "It's a powerful reminder of hardships this nation has been through in a struggle for decency," Bush said. "I was honored that Dr. Hooks took time to visit with me. He talked about the hardships of the movement. With the gentle wisdom that comes from experience, he made it clear we must work as one. And that's why I have come today."

    Ok...let's break this down for the slow learner in the room (AP Writer Deb Riechmann - author of article):

    • Bush doesn't make "unscheduled stops"...Deb, saying so means you're swallowing Repuglickin spin
    • Bush doesn't heed "powerful reminders" definition "powerful reminders" tend to ground one in reality...Deb, this is all spin
    • Bush doesn't know the MEANING of him hardship is having to wait his turn before getting to speak over foreign politicians in their own countries or sexually harass a foreign head of state or choke on a pretzel...Deb, this is all SPIN
    • Bush has NEVER worked with anyone else "as one" except Karl Rove...DEB, THIS IS ALL SPIN
    • NOWHERE in Bush's prepared statements about that "un"scheduled stop at the Civil Rights Museum does it say he "agreed to change policies"...his tone is always passive and noncommittal ("this person illustrated a point that people must all work as one" = Here's what someone else said, so I don't have to tell you what I think)...proof that: DEB, THIS IS ALL SPIN!!
    • The reason Bush came by today was not to work as one...but to tell a microphone he knows he's ignored minorities and their needs and knows he shouldn't...but he's not going to change (tee hee..he's so clever like that)..proof that: DEB, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, THIS IS ALL SPIN!!!!

    It is amazing how much can be accomplished when you don't care who gets the credit - Harry Truman
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    by floundericiousMI on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 12:26:49 PM PDT

  •  Abraham Lincoln (0+ / 0-)

    In addition to worrying about the return of Jesus, today's Republicans had better hope that Abraham Lincoln doesn't come back.

  •  Bush's Texas Congressional Supporters (1+ / 0-)
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    Actions speak louder than words. Bush's most diehard Republican supporters in the Texas Congressional delegation, voted against renewal of the voting rights act. This is the same bunch that colluded with Tom Delay to deny representation to minorities in the state of Texas.

    They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security. Ben Franklin

    by Blue in Texas on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 01:39:50 PM PDT

  •  Martin Luther King would have approved (1+ / 0-)
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    Bush and the GOP are doing more to realize MLK's dream of a color-blind society then the failed liberal "welfare state" initiatives ever did.

    One of the most exciting political developments of the past decade has been to watch the increase in the # of registered black republicans, and the concurrent vindication of GOP policies on civil rights more and more prominent black leaders (Bill Cosby is one) are now advocating

    •  What vindication? (1+ / 0-)
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      In Texas, the Republicans took over where the Dixiecrats left off. It is fantasy to make the claim the the Republicans have any significant support amongst black voters. The Republican legislative record is replete with examples of mean spirited policies that have been detrimental to the minority community; one example is the cut in funding by the Republicans for health insurance for poor children, also a refusal by Republicans to even consider a raise in the minimum wage. Bush's attempt to destroy Social Security would have a disproportionate effect on poor minorities in this country, who do not have the income to be able to afford IRAs and the like.

      They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security. Ben Franklin

      by Blue in Texas on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 02:15:48 PM PDT

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  •  I especially LOVE the moral equivalence drawn.... (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans and black folks wrote EACH OTHER off, according to republicans.

    Fucking jackasses.

    Just like the wife beating husband and the wife hurt EACH OTHER while they were together...

    And the gay basher and the gay guy committed hate crimes against EACH OTHER.

    Serenity now, serentity now.

  •  The show stopper question Bush should have gotten (0+ / 0-)

    from the NAACP. Before the Iraq war, if Kofi Annan had been a white man, would you have treated him as if he wasn't there? It's not about Lincoln or your party. It is about you!!!

  •  or... (0+ / 0-)

    Abraham Lincoln would be no more a modern-day Republican than Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms would be modern-day Democrats.

    Or Zell Miller.

  •  I can't get this thought out of my head.... (0+ / 0-)

    I had a George Carlin moment while listening to the radio talk about Bush's time at the NAACP convention.

    "Bush addressed the African Americans for the first time in five years at the NAACP convention".

    If NAACP stands for the "National Association for the Advancement of Colored People", why did Bush not address the colored people? Did Bush ignore them and just talk to the African Americans?

    Should the NAACP change their name to the "National Association for the Advancement of people we can't refer to by that name anymore"? or the NAA"AA"P.

    Sorry. Like Terry Schiavo, Bush only shows up when he can make someone the victim of one of his poster-child moments. It was "snowflake children" for his crushing stem-cell hypocrisy, and now he's Dave Chappelle in White Face when the Civil Rights Bill comes up for renewal. I wonder if Bush had the courtesy to thank all the African Americans from Dade county who voted for Pat Buchanan and put him there in the first place.

    George Orwell is banging on his coffin lid and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

    by snafubar on Thu Jul 20, 2006 at 06:39:36 PM PDT

  •  Historical perspective (0+ / 0-)
    1. Republicans didn't "write off" blacks, they used them as a demonizable prop to bring in the Dixiecrat vote into their fold.
    1. And who is Bush to talk, given the disaster he ignored in New Orleans? He could rush to DC on a midnight flight to sign the "let's meddle in the Schiavo family's affairs" bill, but couldn't be bothered to cut his six-week vacation short when Katrina hit.
    1. Abraham Lincoln would be no more a modern-day Republican than Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms would be modern-day Democrats.


    Ahhh a light in tha wilderness, someone who has a least an interest in political historical perspective. If more of us were able to at least do some legitimate research into our Nation's political history, perhaps we wouldn't be here in 2006 trying to prevent a major religious schism from becoming a reality in tha Middle East.

    1. Republicans of Mr. Lincoln's day were very much Liberals as they represented those who were establishing a corporate society, established as Law during Andy Jackson's Presidency. Then - Liberal ment against Federal Laws that restricted corporate behaviors (that produced profit by bending exisiting laws). True tha Blacks were used, but not to bring in tha Dixiecrats, in truth it was to force tha Southern farmers to sell their cotton to tha burgeoning yankee industrial revolution. Yankee Republicans wanted tha cotton at half tha European market price. After all is said and done, what can be more Liberal than freeing tha slaves without an exhange in value( something that tha Crown and Parliment of England did for it's citzens), our Republican controlled Congress in Lincoln's day DID NOT.
    1. Dubya's family were Noreastern Democrats before 1964, then came tha Civil Rights Act and next year tha Voting Rights Act, tha Bush family joined tha same "White Flight" that Ronnie Reagan led. Maybe Fearless Leader is still a conservative Democratic wolf in a Republican conservative's lamb's wool. There is a BIG difference between a Demo-con and a Repubbed-con. And just as an aside it was tha "Southern Democrats", FDR's chosen party that forestalled tha "Anti-Lynching Act" in FDR's 1st Term.
    1. I have no disagreement with this statement, only an opinion. Tha traditional basis of these two political parties no-longer exists. Tha corporate core of tha Republican party is most welcome to host Democratic core conservatives, since at tha very central core of tha "liberal corporationists" sits a society that lives by feudal mores, as do most southern conservatives.

        As an aside, I live in Flawduh. In tha last Federal election-'04. We had accusations that several counties down here, that register 80-98% Democrat voted 80-98% Republican, that tha elections were tampered with. Let me explain some traditional values we live by down south...ifn yu wanta be a member of tha Sons or Daughters of The Confederacy ---yu have to be a registered Democrat, Great, Great Granpa and Granma would be spinning in their graves were we to register Republican. And after all it is a secret ballot, is it not?

    Wanna see tha best, most secret Flawduh scam to prove my point? Look at our State Flag, then imagine that flag without tha State Seal in tha center and put Stars in tha crossed bars. Guess what? Yu have a Confederate Battle Flag , tha only one still in exisistence - and we have tha same problem in Flawduh as our Country does. Tha Govenor and tha State legislature is republican controlled. White men, as a life-long Republican I'm sorry to say, speak with forked tongues as they enrich themselves with my money.

  •  Breaking News! (0+ / 0-)

    API headline reads “Bush Knows Many Blacks Distrust GOP”.

    Hell man get with it 60% of the entire population doesn’t trust you.

    Go somewhere quiet and get a grip!

    So now we know that when the polls get low enough, even a bastard like GW will court the vote with the loyal opposisition.

    I don't believe GW is a raceist as much as a promoter of the economically advantaged.

  •  marc b... (0+ / 0-)

    [Wasn't it cool... when the Democrats nominated an African American Supreme Court Justice]

    I agree. It was cool when Johnson nominated this guy to be on the Supreme Court. You might have heard of him. First black Supreme Court Justice, back in 1967. He did not like Republicans much either (or C. Thomas, for that matter).

    There's a reason why Republicans shouldn't get the black vote. Affirmative action, desegregation (yes there are still school districts that need to be supervised by courts to desegregate), voting rights, districts that are not drawn to screw minorities, an actual belief in the 4th amendment and social programs to help minorities and the poor. Strom Thurmond switched to Republican after 1964 for a reason.

  •  Southern blacks are not all that liberal (0+ / 0-)

    I have lived in the south all my life and can truthfully say that most blacks here are very religious and somewhat conservative. The claim that republicans are capitilizing on dixiecrats who defect from the democrat party over the race issue is simply losers remorse.  There can be an unlimited amount of nobel excuses for losing the southern vote - but none seem to be getting the vote back.

    The disconnect between the southern democrat and the national liberal base is growing.  Conservative blacks are defecting too.    

  •  Abe and Teddy (0+ / 0-)

    would tell the modern GOP to fuck off and die.

    Party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt?  My ass.  That's like taking the gold bars out of Fort Knox and replacing them with shit and then subsequently claiming that Fort Knox is full of precious metal.

  •  you guys see this ??? (0+ / 0-)
    i am from new orleans, so i was reading this thread,
    im still kinda new to the KOS, so im not sure where to post this, but this is REAL interesting !@!

    Transcript: Bush and Blair's unguarded chat

    A transcript of the off-the-cuff conversation between US President George W Bush and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair during a break at the G8 conference in Russia.

    The president was caught on tape using an expletive as he described the actions of Hezbollah in attacking Israel.

    They also discussed the exchange of gifts.


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