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  • The fighters over at the National Review, under fierce artillery barrage, bravely soldier on. Why, they have suffered fierce casualties in their war on terror, like some tendonitis, a carpal tunnel or two, and that twitch on that guy's back when he bent over to take out file folder from a cabinet. Such are the horrors of chickenhawk war.

  • My Nightline appearance is up. My favorite part was when Jake Tapper talks about me getting a grand piano even though my current one seems fine. Then they show me playing a woefully out-of-tune and tinny sounding spinnet. And I didn't just buy a grand piano, I bought a KILLER piano.

    And really, all news shows should do this, releasing the full transcript of the interview. Editing is important on television, so having the full context available is really the smart thing to do for news organizations that want to present news as fairly as possible.

  • Some television stations are refusing to air MoveOn ads targetting congresscritters for corruption. One claims it has pulled the MoveOn ad for "business reasons". Apparently, the station owner is a contributor to one of the targetted corrupt Republicans, and has plenty of "business reasons" to keep his bought and paid for congressman happy.

  • I agree with Chris Bowers. Enough with the meta!

  • Bush agrees to more troops for Baghdad, taking them supposedly from parts of Iraq that are relatively quiet. Watch the insurgency's whack-a-mole strategy in action.

  • Funny how there's always some idiot in the media (this time on CNN) saying how the latest disaster is good for Bush.

    Now check out this extraordinary paragraph on CNN's politics page:

    The Middle East crisis is giving President Bush a second chance to be a peacemaker and, however counterintuitive, an unexpected new chance to make headway on his grand goal of leaving the Middle East more democratic than he found it.

    That one belongs in the time capsule, doesn't it? Anyone by chance recall Bush's first effort to be a "peacemaker"? Me either. I do, however, vaguely recall him initiating a war of choice on false pretenses that has left over 2,500 Americans dead and many tens of thousands severely wounded. Maybe in the world of CNN war is peace, as the Orwellian phrase has it. It's also worth pointing out that the Bush administration has actually rebuffed calls for the U.S. to push for a cease-fire.

  • I get a great deal of negative mail, as do all people who are highly public. Some are vile, others are stupid. But check out this genuinely earnest one I received today:

    I just wanted to say that I saw the interview that the editor of this website did with ABC nightline last night. I just wanted to say that I support the President and the Republican party. I also support the wars in Afganhanstain and Iraq. I think its better to take the fight to terrorist instead of them taking the fight to us and killing more Americans on our on soil. I think if a Democarat would be in office right now we would probbaly lose more freedoms then we already have because they would have abrought the troops home. Everyone has to realize that freedom is not free. The only reason we went to war with the Taliban is because they were hovering Al Qaida which was the terrorist organization that planeded and carried out the 9/11 attacks and killed over 3,000 Amerciacans. On Iraq I am actually glad we went ahead and went to war because what would of happened if Saddam actually had WMD and living in a post 9/11 world its better to be safe than to be sorry. Thats all I have to say.

    While I originally wrote that this was "hilariously stupid", I've changed my mind. It's more tragic than anything else.

  • Even Lieberman's rallies are taken from Bush's playbook. Digby has more. So does Jane, who was also tossed.

  • CA-11: McCloskey (R), who lost a primary challenge to Rep. Richard Pombo, endorsed Democrat Jerry McNerney.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:05 PM PDT.

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  •  Nightline--Had to Leave When They (2+ / 0-)
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    had you admit that only being President would give you more power.

    Blatant propaganda. Everyone knows that compared to VP or even Secretary of Defense, President isn't worth a bucket of warm piss.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:02:16 PM PDT

  •  Hovering Al Qaida? (6+ / 0-)

    Is that like Hoovering? Kirbying? Bisseling?
    Anti-terrorism as the world's carpet cleaner.

    "Our attitude was- the revolution can't start until we find our hair gel." Joe Strummer

    by histopresto on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:02:18 PM PDT

  •  Hey Kos... (0+ / 0-)

    ...not having seen the interview yet, and not knowing if this is mentioned...are you planning on writing any more music?

  •  Never met a meta I didn't like (1+ / 0-)
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    Bowers' meta (and Dems' meta in general) not to be confused with our meta.

    this message is intended to inform. any annoyance, abuse, threat, or harassment is solely in the perception of the reader, not the intention of the poster.

    by horsewithnoname on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:03:13 PM PDT

  •  Bush may have finally pissed off the wrong people (4+ / 0-)
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    The people who really matter, the major oil companies.

    WTO Deal May Cost US Companies Access to Giant Russian Gas Field — Analysts

    Russian oil analysts say that the country’s gas monopoly Gazprom, which is controlled by the state, will keep U.S. oil companies out of a lucrative deal to develop a giant Shtokman gas field in the Barents Sea. They say it is the latest sign of deteriorating relationship between Moscow and Washington.

    After failing to secure a bilateral deal with the United States regarding Russia’s accession to the World Trade Organization, Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected to favor Norwegian companies Hydro and Statoil and to reject the bids by America’s Chevron and ConocoPhillips.

    The snub will be a blow to U.S. companies scrambling for access to Russia’s huge gas reserves at a time of high energy prices. It comes after Putin failed to resolve differences with U.S. President George Bush over trade and human rights at the G8 conference in St. Petersburg last week. The two leaders were barbed about each other’s democratic records at a tense G8 press conference. Putin later publicly praised Norsk Hydro and Statoil for their role in developing the highly prized Shtokman gas field. “You have probably heard that we are holding talks with several countries on the development of different fields, but companies from Norway are among the first on this list,” Putin said. He added: “They don’t go around with their noses in the air. They work objectively, very professionally.” Viktor Khristenko, the Russian Industry and Energy Minister, also praised the Norwegian firms’ record on protecting the environment last week.


    The Shtokman project is also important to Russia’s long-term relations with the U.S., since most gas from the field is to be shipped to North America in the form of liquefied natural gas. Participation by Chevron or ConocoPhillips could help ease access to the U.S. market.


  •  tendinities? (0+ / 0-)

    That sounds, somehow, dirty. Like a form of tendonitis that only women can contract or something.

  •  All out war? Is it a good thing? (0+ / 0-)

    I remember reading that on Cavuto's show a while back and laughing. Republicans really are desperate in trying to find a silver lining in the conflict in the ME. Sure Civil War in Iraq is great! Israel about to spark a regional conflict? GREAT! You'd think by listening to some neocons that World War III was their grand plan all along that they sold all along their campaign stops in 04. Of course it could be that in reality the power brokers in the party do want more war but it is doubtful that the majority of americans are happy with them or the course that they so strongly wish us to stay.

    Now we do know that the christians who've read the Left Behind series three times over will stick with him in the vain hopes that Jesus is coming(hide your porn). I do doubt however that Bush and the republicans can spin this war into a net positive. At best they should just make it where democrats are "bush-lite" again which seems to be the Democratic position so far. Supporting Israel blindly and too cowardly to call for any real change and redeployment in Iraq.

    "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain

    by Common Cents on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:04:27 PM PDT

  •  Another Repug child sex scandal. (3+ / 0-)
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    Here is another one from the party of values. I have lost count as to how many this makes this year.

    Adams used multiple screen names to send the child porn, and he was first snagged when in 2005 he sent several images of child pornography to an undercover police officer in Florida.

    Tom Adams told authorities he was addicted to child pornography.

  •  How many Democarats do you weigh, Kossacks? (0+ / 0-)

    I'm coming in at almost 170 -- got some chub around the ol' waistline that I need to get rid of.

    /is only 5'7"... should be ~160

    Reclaim Democracy: It's not just politics - it's economics, too

    by EconAtheist on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:05:09 PM PDT

  •  'Would have abrought' (0+ / 0-)

    Wow.  That's a new one.  I kinda like it.

    "He's a candidate for office. He can no longer whorefuck with impunity." -Al "Albert" Swearengen

    by RepublicanTaliban on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:05:19 PM PDT

  •  that is one stupid email (3+ / 0-)
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    better safe than sorry!

  •  Spitzer debate tonight (3+ / 0-)
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    Dear Friend,

    Over the past year, you've likely heard Eliot talk about the currency of ideas: the knowledge and expertise New Yorkers have about revitalizing the economy, improving our education system, making quality health care more affordable, and reforming our state government. Eliot has called on supporters like you to share your thoughts on New York's future with him and the campaign, and input has been invaluable.

    Tonight, in the Democratic primary gubernatorial debate, tune in to hear Eliot's vision for New York's future, a vision he shares with you and the countless other New Yorkers who have contributed ideas to the campaign.

    The debate will air live at 7pm on NY-1 and NY-1 Noticias in New York City, News 12 in Westchester and Long Island, R News in the Rochester area, News 10 in Syracuse, or Capital 9 in the Capital Region. Streaming video is also available on NY-1's

    Thank you for your continued support.

    -- The Spitzer 2006 Team

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:05:46 PM PDT

  •  Bush One Day Drop Of 5 Points In Rasmussen (7+ / 0-)

    From 42% to 37%.

    Rasmussen is always higher than other polls. Could be statistical noise as they say. Could be something going on. They mention how Bush's stem cell view is only in synch with 26% of population.
    Guesses On Possible Influence-

    --G8 Behavior
    --Stem Cell Veto
    --We were sold a war on terror. We were not sold WWIII.

    Good Government. Traffic Lights Aren't All That Weird. Vote Democratic!

    by HL Mungo on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:05:58 PM PDT

    •  This statistical evidence (1+ / 0-)
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      jives with my observational comment below.

      Make a neocon cry, buy un::Conventional - the YearlyKos experience in words and pictures.

      by ETinKC on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:11:07 PM PDT

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      •  Rove Thinks The Rapture Right Voters Gained... (0+ / 0-)

        will outnumber the ones he will lose in families like your coworkers. I saw some righty coworkers step out of the fold with Dubai. The liberal media bashing in the late spring got them back on board. Interesting to see how Rove will atttempt to get your coworkers back in the camp.

        Good Government. Traffic Lights Aren't All That Weird. Vote Democratic!

        by HL Mungo on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:21:15 PM PDT

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    •  I just took a Polling Point poll (3+ / 0-)
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      Have to say I truly enjoyed those "strongly disapprove" checkmarks.


      "Those of us who believe that our being right gives us permission to sacrifice another person's child are evil." -- poemless

      by PatsBard on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:44:33 PM PDT

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      •  I Contributed To Bush's 'Strongly Disapprove' (4+ / 0-)
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        numbers in a WP/ABC poll back in April. In that poll the "Strongly Dissaprove" was as high as 48% in the last one. The highest ever. Media focused on his slight rise in total approval. The moment I am waiting for is when the "Strongly Disapprove" number exceeds 50% in these polls that use a 4 point scale.

        Good Government. Traffic Lights Aren't All That Weird. Vote Democratic!

        by HL Mungo on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:02:25 PM PDT

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  •  'Killed over 3000 Amer-cia-cans'? (0+ / 0-)

    Hey, Kos, I thought you weren't going to allow 9/11 ridiculousness here ...

    What happens on DailyKos, stays on Google.

    by Jon Meltzer on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:06:03 PM PDT

  •  29 Palms, California, just named, 'Another part (2+ / 0-)
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    of Iraq"

    Same goes for Ft. Bragg, Ft. Leavenworth, and anywhere else a warm body might be found.

    Moving troops around Iraq when they're stretched thin will just put those left even more thinly spread at greater risk.

    bush has noone's interests at heart besides his own.

    Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:06:03 PM PDT

  •  people like the one who sent kos that email, (3+ / 0-)

    make me feel like you should have to pass a test to vote.

    I know, I know....

    •  lowell had a response for that (4+ / 0-)

      The democratic theory is that those Constitutions are likely to prove steadiest which have the broadest base, that the right to vote makes a safety - valve of every voter, and that the best way of teaching a man how to vote is to give him the chance of practice. For the question is no longer the academic one, "Is it wise to give every man the ballot?" but rather the practical one, "Is it prudent to deprive whole classes of it any longer?" It may be conjectured that it is cheaper in the long run to lift men up than to hold them down, and that the ballot in their hands is less dangerous to society than a sense of wrong in their heads.

      /there are no rules except discovery /the only tradition is invention. come see my home at Surdus!

      by joseph rainmound on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:23:57 PM PDT

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  •  OMG, that email sounds just like (3+ / 0-)
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    this fucking idiot I work with.  And what the hell is "hovering Al Qaida".

    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool...."

    •  Maybe that means Al Qaeda has hover bikes? (2+ / 0-)
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      So much for having a technological advantage in the "War on Terrah."

      "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."

      by vawolf on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:15:25 PM PDT

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      •  Bin Laden has jet packs!? I want my jet pack! (2+ / 0-)

        What's next? They gonna get soap?

        "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain

        by Common Cents on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:18:17 PM PDT

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        •  Seriously, the 2000s are a dissapointment (3+ / 0-)
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          To me, they look much like the 80s, only the cell phones are way smaller and the ringers more annoying. Where are the flying cars, jet packs and hover bikes? Where are the day trips to the Moon? What the hell happened to time travel?

          Who killed the jet pack?!? Probably the same folks who killled the electric car...sigh

          "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."

          by vawolf on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:57:59 PM PDT

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          •  We even have a washed up Ray-Gun clone! (0+ / 0-)

            Evolution my ass!

            If you had told sci-fi writers that we would still be debating if the theory that an invisible man in the sky created the world should be taught in public school in 2006 they'd have laughed you out of their mother's basement.

            We shouted out "Who killed the jet pack?!?" when after all it was you and me. :-(

            "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain

            by Common Cents on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:07:22 PM PDT

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          •  Moon? Time travel? Try Iraq. (0+ / 0-)

            That's where our pennies/billions went. And we, the accursed American people with a sockpuppet for a prez, get to repay this, because the U.S. charged it all on a credit card known as the dollar.

            My forebrain has become non compis since the Rethugs replicated throughout the region formerly known as My Country, The U. S. of A! All this is becoming increasingly difficult for me to coexist with.

            now when i think about (my country) and being a citizen of (my country) a part of me always cringes and i experience a feeling of shame that i bear the same national label as those that perpetrate great evil in the world.

            And The Evil People Know Who They Are!

            And I truly believe their actions to be evil. I believe they should be held accountable for them. I believe they will be,

            May you live in interesting times. Ancient Chinese curse

            by 4Freedom on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 03:55:54 PM PDT

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  •  Aw, poor little GOoPer (5+ / 0-)

    Still, s/he gets some points in my book for the sheer earnestness and - shock! - the politeness on display.

    Also, I think the levitating/sucking reference was meant to be "harboring".

    "...sometimes they ignore you, then ridicule you, then fight you and crush you like an overripe eggplant." - Billmon

    by Astoria Chris on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:07:24 PM PDT

    •  Hey, that was a good email! (5+ / 0-)

      I liked that email, although I disagree with the opinions of the writer.

      This is somebody who watched the interview with kos, even though he/she didn't agree with him. Still, kos had the opportunity to make his case to this viewer, who listened instead of changing the channel.

      Even though the writer of the email wasn't persuaded (this time), he or she still was affected enough to want to communicate with kos.

      Dialogue is good.

      As to spelling--there are plenty of people who could win a spelling bee, but who engage in much nastier forms of debate than the person who sent this email.

      The writer was courteous and, yes, earnest, as well as being focused on issues. No ad hominem attacks here.

      Do you know Americans who live outside the U.S.? Tell them to register to vote! --

      by True North on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:47:26 PM PDT

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  •  Credit to Tweety (4+ / 0-)
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    I know we bash him.  I know I bash him.  His coziness with DeLay.  His non-questions and non-answers.  His skewed guests on Hardball.

    However, today I am a fan.

    Follow this link over to Crooks and Liars and listen to his conversation, or should I say RANT, on Imus.

    He is DEAD ON!  He is off the hook!  He is crazy with the truthiness!

    I'm serious.  Go.  NOW!  Don't read the next comment.  Don't click on the 51,234th Joe Lieberman diary**.  Don't write anymore snark.  GO AND LISTEN to 12 minutes of truth.

    ((disclaimer:  During the time it took to write this comment, 7 more Joe Lieberman diaries were posted.  Comment should be updated to read "51,241st"))

    Thinking men can not be ruled. --Ayn Rand

    by Wisper on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:07:49 PM PDT

    •  Heard it this morning. (1+ / 0-)
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      Great, GREAT job by Chris.  I felt like a proud mother.  And not just on Iraq.  He just hammered the Repubs on everything.

      Oh, and you should have heard Imus, the ass, tear Tweety a new one after the call ended.

      "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine Pay attention Georgie - 2550+ dead Americans. Jesus Christ, make it stop already.

      by Miss Blue on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:23:40 PM PDT

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      •  Imus is an asshole (3+ / 0-)
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        Finally Matthews gets a clue. It will take him ripping Bushco about 1,268 times to pay his debt for the shit that came before. And Imus says why throw out Lieberman for the "unfortunate mistake" of backing the war? Unfortunate mistake, indeed. Imus should be sent to Iraq now to see just how friggin unfortunate it has all been.

        Why do you have to be a nonconformist like everybody else? - James Thurber

        by JuliaAnn on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:20:30 PM PDT

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    •  Awesome piece (1+ / 0-)
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      Wow, Tweety takes of the blinders.  He beats Bush like a gong!  He puts forth many, many insights into the occupation, Bush's IQ (indirectly), the political process in general in this country and how people vote.

      The only part I didn't like was his insisting that the primary in CT will be a referendum on the war.  He does make a good case for it, however.  He says CT voters will be voting for FUTURE policy, not an up or down vote on past mistakes.  He comes right out and says Lieberman is a hawk and if CT Dems vote for Lieberman then that will be an affirmation that they want a hawk to represent them in the U.S. Senate.  He correctly notes that if we started bombing Iran tomorrow, Lieberman would be the first one saluting.  He also says, quite correctly, that if Lieberman wins the first congratulatory phone call he gets will be from George Bush.

      This blew my mind.  That and the revelation that Imus voted for Kerry.  I don't listen to Imus so maybe that wasn't a big secret but I was floored.  And how dopey does Imus look with that stupid cowboy hat on?

      A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

      by Paper Cup on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:39:35 PM PDT

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    •  and if the polls showed that only 30% (1+ / 0-)
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      were against the Iraq war .. what the little bird be singing about today ???

      Everyone says he was 'against the war from the beginning' but I i'll take my 'Tweety come lately' with a 5lb bag of salt ..

  •  More Good Economic News (4+ / 0-)
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    Wage stagnation, long the bane of blue-collar workers, is now hitting people with bachelor's degrees for the first time in 30 years. Earnings for workers with four-year degrees fell 5.2% from 2000 to 2004 when adjusted for inflation, according to White House economists.

    But at least BP's profit is up 30%...

    Evolution is the organizing principle of all known life; Your God is a theory postulated by goatherders before movable type.

    by The Baculum King on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:08:00 PM PDT

    •  My husband was recently laid off (3+ / 0-)
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      and rudely thrust back into the job hunting field (ew, ick) and was shocked to discover that the starting salaries from 3 1/2 years ago (the last time he was laid off) are the SAME TODAY.

      •  After four+ years (3+ / 0-)
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        of un- and under-employment (how it's "under" when you're working three jobs, I don't know), last fall I finally made it back to a good wage: almost exactly what I was making numbers-wise before I was laid off in March 2001.

        Difference - back then my full-time salaried job gave me health, dental, and short & long-term disability insurance; an MSA for the copays (etc.); a 401k; and subsidized parking or bus fare on top of the salary.

        Nowdays, it's an hourly job (full-time) with short-term disability insurance and an MSA.  I have a second job that provides my health insurance. My (now) IRA hasn't seen a deposit since I was laid off - plus it went to hell after Bush was selected and is worth roughly half what it was on election day 2000.

        Wow, thanks Bush.

        Good luck to you and your hubby - hope he finds a steady job that he enjoys! (Maybe you should mention what field he's in and what state you're in? Someone here might have some leads.)

        Ignorance killed the cat. Curiousity was framed.

        by Lashe on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:06:03 PM PDT

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  •  Just talked with a Bush supporting tax-cut loving (7+ / 0-)

    republican coworker, who had in vitro fertilization and is donating her leftover frozen pre-embryo's for stem-cell research and her bush loving mom is pissed at Bush's veto because her dad (mom's husband) has Parkinson's...

    is there anyone W hasn't pissed off yet?

    Make a neocon cry, buy un::Conventional - the YearlyKos experience in words and pictures.

    by ETinKC on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:08:10 PM PDT

  •  Can the drilling rigs be far behind? (0+ / 0-)

    The Cassini spacecraft, using its radar system, has discovered very strong evidence for hydrocarbon lakes on Titan. Dark patches, which resemble terrestrial lakes, seem to be sprinkled all over the high latitudes surrounding Titan's north pole.

    Scientists have speculated that liquid methane or ethane might form lakes on Titan, particularly near the somewhat colder polar regions. In the images, a variety of dark patches, some with channels leading in or out of them, appear. The channels have a shape that strongly implies they were carved by liquid. Some of the dark patches and connecting channels are completely black, that is, they reflect back essentially no radar signal, and hence must be extremely smooth. In some cases rims can be seen around the dark patches, suggesting deposits that might form as liquid evaporates.

    The abundant methane in Titan's atmosphere is stable as a liquid under Titan conditions, as is its abundant chemical product, ethane, but liquid water is not. For all these reasons, scientists interpret the dark areas as lakes of liquid methane or ethane, making Titan the only body in the solar system besides Earth known to possess lakes. Because such lakes may wax and wane over time, and winds may alter the roughness of their surfaces. Repeat coverage of these areas should test whether indeed these are bodies of liquid.

    January 20. 2009 cannot come soon enough.

    by Crisis Corps Volunteer on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:08:18 PM PDT

  •  Wow, (3+ / 0-)
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    he just edited the bullet points off every Republican talking point classic from the last five years and made them into one letter.

    "Fishin' Accomplished" -- George W. Bush

    by kismet on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:08:34 PM PDT

  •  Oh great (16+ / 0-)
    I bought a KILLER piano.

    Just when we think the controversy over DailyKos is dying down, Markos has to admit to a relationship with a murderous musical instrument.

    Next up Meteor Blades is outed by the National Review for selling deadly knives.

    Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. Sherlock Holmes.

    by Carnacki on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:09:13 PM PDT

  •  that leter was rite, butt... (11+ / 0-)

    Who says we don't support the war in Afganhanstain?  Sure we would like to abring the troops home from Iraq, but we understand that we must prevent the Taliban from regaining power - after all, they hovered al Qaida.  We are proud to support that operation, proud to be Democarats and proud to be Amerciacans.

    "George Bush is a gangsta. I wanna meet him, just shake his hand and tell him how much of me I see in him" - Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson

    by clashfan on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:09:45 PM PDT

  •  Don't be hard on the guy (4+ / 0-)
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    OLinda, nasarius, boofdah, RainyDay

    Don't be too hard on the "Afganhanstain" guy.  He stated what the Bush administration is all about more cogently than Bush can.

    "Everything's shiny, Captain. Not to fret."

    by rmwarnick on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:10:52 PM PDT

    •  Give him some credet too... (3+ / 0-)
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      kos, OLinda, Lashe

      at leest he nows they're wern't none WMD in Ireq.

      On Iraq I am actually glad we went ahead and went to war because what would of happened if Saddam actually had WMD and living in a post 9/11 world its better to be safe than to be sorry.

  •  Even Floyd R. Turbo Is More Articulate (6+ / 0-)

    The correlation between ignorance and reactionary conservatism could not be proven more definitively than in that last diatribe.  Damn.

    Morons following Bush the Idiot cannot be convinced or persuaded; they must be overwhelmed with the power of conviction and common sense.

    ". . . would have abrought . . ."?
    ". . .hovering Al Qaida . . ."?
    ". . .Afganhanstain . . ."?
    ". . .its better . . ."?
    ". . .probbaly . . ."?
    ". . .planneded . . ."?

    What a blithering idiot!

    Hey, did George Bush write that letter?

  •  NPR radio: the DLC vs. the Netroots (0+ / 0-)

    This is worthy of a full diary; but I don't have time to do a full diary right now--so here's the link to the story and feel free to discuss away. :)

  •  Democratic Unity (4+ / 0-)
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    Always love how Unity is for the guy they want to win. Lieberman is the one in need of a lesson on unity... but you all know this.

    I read that article and the crap quote from Clinton and just donated $50 more bucks to Lamont. - Political and Community Coverage of NYC

    by atomicBirdsong on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:15:11 PM PDT

    •  WTF... (0+ / 0-)

      ...happened to President Clinton? Did the Bush family leave a pod next to him while he slept?

      Arnold and Dubya star in "Twins II"
      Econ: -4.63 Soc: -6.92

      by MamasGun on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 06:23:38 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Civic duty (1+ / 0-)
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    (I saw this a few hours after today's C&J for this to have been widely read)

    Cheers to Karl Rove (yes, Karl Rove) and Madeleine Albright for performing their civic duty and reporting for jury duty at the District of Columbia Superior Court.  Turdblossom was quickly excused because he friends with the judge, but Albright was to return for a second day.

    Say what you will about Turdblossom, but I would not want a juror on a jury who was friends with anyone in the court.

    January 20. 2009 cannot come soon enough.

    by Crisis Corps Volunteer on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:15:24 PM PDT

  •  Kos, that email cannot be real (3+ / 0-)
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    tmo, karateexplosions, Lashe

    It is a talking points list, written by a dullard, full of flatulence, signifying snark.

  •  Seriously (1+ / 0-)
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    That email hurt my head.

    Not kidding. It really did.

  •  there is only one 'killer piano' (6+ / 0-)

    And if you refuse to acknowledge it's Bosendorfer, we're gonna have a fight that makes the pie wars look like a traffic infraction!

    "this new century really sucks ass" - surferal

    by arbiter on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:17:25 PM PDT

  •  The National Review is right.....sortof (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't see the problem with Cliff May's statement that part of the current battle is a battle of ideas.  He's exactly right about that.  It's just that his and his partys' ideas are shit.

  •  Condoleezza Pregnant (2+ / 0-)
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    Miss Blue, North Central

    Condoleezza Pregnant: Giving Birth to Monster
    Laura Knight-Jadczyk , Signs of the Times
    July 24, 2006

    Rice sees bombs as "birth pangs"

    Condoleezza Rice has described the plight of Lebanon as a part of the "birth pangs of a new Middle East" and said that Israel should ignore calls for a ceasefire. "This is a different Middle East. It's a new Middle East. It's hard, We're going through a very violent time," the US secretary of state said. "A ceasefire would be a false promise if it simply returns us to the status quo. "Such a step would allow terrorists to ! launch attacks at the time and terms of their choosing and to threaten innocent people, Arab and Israeli, throughout the region." I have to say that, as the mother of five children, these remarks stopped me cold in my tracks. Aside from the obvious question "what can Condoleezza Rice - a woman who has never given birth - know about "birth pangs"? - there is another more compelling question: what kind of human being can be so callous as to say such a thing when tens of thousands of mothers in the Middle East have suffered the unimaginable grief of seeing their beautiful babies crushed under the jackboots of rapacious Imperialism and religious fanaticism?...

    Die with Love, version 2.0!

    Sabbah's blog

    We all condemn the parents of the kids signing the Israeli bombs "with love" falling on Lebanese civilians and innocents, but we didn’t see the parents while doing the same. Worse, here are matured Jewish men signing bombs, again...

    How Can One, or Many, Strongly Justify The Following While Condemning Others, Calling Them 'Terrorists'?????

    Dear Arab/Muslims/Christians/Lebanese/Palestinians...
    Die with Love. We are dancing on your dead bodies!
    Ultra-Orthodox Jews

    A Few More Photo's and a Commentary can be found:HERE

    As to condi, I'm getting the Impression she's Really Enjoying being the 'Bride Of The War pResident'!!!

    "You Wave the Flag, Now Show the Veterans the Services"

    by jimstaro on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:22:04 PM PDT

  •  Site question (0+ / 0-)

    I posted in a diary asking the author to amend the diary due to a fair use violation.  The diarist has not reponded or changed the diary.  

    Is there another step a "regular" person like me should take, e.g. emailing someone?  I'm not trying to get a diarist in trouble but the FAQ is pretty clear on fair use and I try to point it out when I see it (also per the FAQ) because of potential legal issues for Markos.

    Just wondering.

    Closed minds should come with closed mouths.

    by Pennsylvanian on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:22:19 PM PDT

    •  Email (0+ / 0-)

      Email Kos, or reply to a McJoan comment.  That should bring it to their attention.

      "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine Pay attention Georgie - 2550+ dead Americans. Jesus Christ, make it stop already.

      by Miss Blue on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:29:49 PM PDT

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  •  'I Got the Dumb Ass Blues' (2+ / 0-)
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    I got the dumb ass blues
    I got the dumb ass blues
    George don't bring us no good news
    I got the dumb ass blues

    I got the deep low downs
    I got the deep low downs
    My country run by no count clowns
    I got the deep low downs

    I got the shake my head
    I got the shake my head
    Ole George he want the whole world dead
    I got the shake my head

    We got the dumb ass blues
    We got the dumb ass blues
    We all done won but we only lose
    We got the dumb ass blues

  •  hilarious (1+ / 0-)
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    Miss Blue

    That letter - wow. I mean, wow.

    Did a computerised robot cut and paste from the approved RNC talking points memo? Fuck. That's just sad, and hard to believe a sentient being above the age of seven put that together.

    Blog this! Visit me at K Street Blues. It will change your life. (Actual life-changing not a guarantee.)

    by AggieDemocrat on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:22:46 PM PDT

  •  The open scene (2+ / 0-)
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    ksh01, nasarius

    From the Nightline showing Markos is in front of a club I play at all of the time in Berkeley, The Starry Plough.

    It's a classic venue.

    "Sex and creativity are often seen by dictators as subversive activities." -Erica Jong

    by iliketodrum on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:27:23 PM PDT

  •  I ran into a corroded soul (6+ / 0-)

    just like your letter writer.  I lost my temper.  I said, "You are too stupid to use air.", and stalked away.  I wish I could avoid these kind of confrontations with idiots.  It's not at all good for my elderly, Grandma personna.

  •  thank god for chris bower's article! (2+ / 0-)
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    peraspera, North Central

    please, i hope the future generation of the party realizes how messed up the DLC is.

    they fall right into the grand scheme of the radical right

    the republicans jump to the right, the democrats jump with them. guess who wins at the end of the day?

    instead, people like hilary, who are demonized as liberal on fox news, should take one for the team, and jump as far left as possible (can't hurt, most republicans believe she is liberal).

    that way, WE control the shifting in american politics.

    how odd, the republicans love their extremes and parade them to make the "moderates" look moderate, instead of actually changing posistion.

    maybe we should start the same.

  •  Good News For Your Pen Pal (2+ / 0-)
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    Lashe, North Central

    Due to some recently-lowered standards, this intellectual giant can now join the military and go to Iraq and fight in the war he supports.

    I'm sure he'll be outstanding when it comes to reading latitudes and longitudes.

    Typical Republican. Dumb and loving every minute of it.

    The Republican Party: Keeping America Fact-Free Since 2001

    by IndyScott on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:36:31 PM PDT

    •  He's gotta be a 23 percenter. (0+ / 0-)

      Isn't that the estimated percentage of Bu$h followers who would walk into a whirling helicopter blade if instructed to do so by the Prez-nut?  

      Wonder what it's like to live every day in a stupor like Pen Pal's.  We'd need a tank of 151 to achieve what he does just by getting up in the morning.

      -7.0, -6.0 "...preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

      by North Central on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:05:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  KOS I watched you on NightLine (0+ / 0-)

    and was so proud of how you handled all their questions.  My God - isn't it easy just to be honest about emotions, reasons and feelings, rather that try to skate around and dodge the question?

    Doesn't everyone thing that a non-apologetic, honest politician is what America needs?  Well, that's what KOS presented on NightLine: The Real Thing, no phony imitations.

    And, that, fellow Kossacks, is what we need to demand of our politicians: Honesty, integrity, responsiveness, intelligence, and a moral fucking compass! (with tribute for Mary Scott O'Conner for loaning me an F word today!){Wink wink}

  •  Where the hell's my hate mail??? (9+ / 0-)

    It's always, "Here's a puppy pic for ya..." and "Here's an item you might want to feature in C&J..." and "Your Pulitzers are going out in the mail today. Do you mind if we send them all together or would you like to unwrap them seperately?"

    I get no hate mail, let alone hate mail with delicious typos.

    I want my "Amerciacans!"

    This blog needs more cowbell!

    by Bill in Portland Maine on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:42:45 PM PDT

  •  OK, I must be a liberal... (6+ / 0-)

    because I actually feel sad for the inarticulate writer of that letter. Not all of us are geniuses. Not all of us are even very smart. Some folks are just not at all smart, and they can't help it. Just as we don't laugh derisively at folks who are physically disabled, something bothers me inside about heaping scorn on folks who just "don't think real good".

    Dick Cheney? Heap scorn. George Bush? Heap scorn. Rush, Bill, and Sean, etc.? Heap triple scorn. Guy who can't write and just doesn't get it? ... Not so much. :-(

  •  Stem cells as wedge issue -- not so hot for Dems? (0+ / 0-)

    TNR Online is not a place I hang out, but hey, they can't be wrong all the time. I bumped into this article by Noam Scheiber on why stem cells aren't necessarily a great wedge issue for Democrats -- despite the fact that most of the public disagrees with Bush on the merits.

    Why not? The reason has to do with the nature of wedge issues, which are rarely about the narrow debate that brings them into public view (such as stem-cell research in this case). Instead, they tend to be proxies for much deeper-seated emotions or anxieties, which the wedge issue inflames. For an issue to work as a wedge, it's the emotional subtext that has to cut your way.

    Check it out. It's a good article to read before we hypnotize ourselves into thinking because is our stand is a good cause and one the public agrees with the voters will all necessarily vote our way on this.

    Politics is not that rational, for better or worse.

    Letter from Here -- Everywhere. Nowhere. Out there.

    by Madison Guy on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:46:08 PM PDT

  •  UH OH... (3+ / 0-)
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    peraspera, MamasGun, North Central

    Yes, it's gotten this bad. From Wonkette, here's the whole story:

    Six friends spruced up in fake blood and tattered clothing were arrested in downtown Minneapolis on suspicion of toting "simulated weapons of mass destruction."

    it get's worse:

    "They were arrested for behavior that was suspicious and disturbing," said Lt. Gregory Reinhardt, a police spokesman. Police also said the group was uncooperative and intimidated people with their "ghoulish" makeup.

    Arrested for wearing disturbing makeup.  Fucking incredible.  Of course, arrested, but not charged.  I'm betting Minny has a hard time finding the "it's against the law to look disturbing" law on the books...

    Republican recruitment for the 82nd Chairborne at an all-time high...

    by topicalstorm on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:46:12 PM PDT

    •  Worse yet (3+ / 0-)

      Those "simulated weapons of mass destruction"?

      Backpacks with portable stereo equipment in them, so they could carry their music around. That's it. Backpacks and messenger's bags holding boomboxes.

      Wait a minute... BOOM boxes! No wonder the cops thought they were WMD's, the word boom is right there in the name...


      Ignorance killed the cat. Curiousity was framed.

      by Lashe on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:15:49 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  seriously kos (2+ / 0-)
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    what kind of piano?

    I bought a 6'4" charles walter in natural cherry earlier this year.  I love it.

    Check out my podcast of piano improvisations.

    by tunesmith on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:49:23 PM PDT

  •  This part wasn't really wrong: (0+ / 0-)

    The Middle East crisis is giving President Bush a second chance to be a peacemaker and, however counterintuitive, an unexpected new chance to make headway on his grand goal of leaving the Middle East more democratic than he found it.

    It just says he has a second chance - not that he succeeded the first time. Take another stab at it, Georgie. If at first you don't succeed.....

    I sure wish he'd just take his toys and go home, though.

    "Those of us who believe that our being right gives us permission to sacrifice another person's child are evil." -- poemless

    by PatsBard on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:49:56 PM PDT

  •  War is 'Peace' (0+ / 0-)

    Maybe in the world of CNN war is peace, as the Orwellian phrase has it.

    Not only in the world of CNN.

    “I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace.” — George W. Bush

    I'd like to think that the last thing that went through the warden's mind, besides that bullet, was how did Andy get the best of him. The Shawshank Redemption

    by William Domingo on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:53:20 PM PDT

  •  one sane Republican (1+ / 0-)
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    Heart of the Rockies

    Kudos to Pete McCloskey, who put his country (and the environment) ahead of his party.

    Gonna be a judgment, that's a fact. A righteous train rollin' down this track . . . -- Bruce Springsteen

    by saucy monkey on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:32 PM PDT

  •  I think the letter was more likely written (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Heart of the Rockies

    by a bright, if misinformed, middle school or Jr. High student than by an adult. The writing style is a bit of a tip-off: Teachers at that level put a lot of emphasis on having a strong opening and closing, and "that's all I have to say" would be the kind of closing written by a student who, well, didn't have anything more to say.

    A student like that might, just might, be reachable with a well-written response. Mocking them with a front-page post isn't going to do it.

    Of course, if it actually was written by an adult, then I'd simply send the guy over to Free Republic; he might be able to raise the level of discourse over there.

    Lying about WMDs changed everything.

    by Nowhere Man on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:05:25 PM PDT

  •  I read this & felt ill (0+ / 0-)

    The room is dark. There's a fly dancing in the glow of my monitor.

    by goodasgold on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:06:43 PM PDT

  •  George Bush Fucked Up the Entire World (1+ / 0-)
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    truong son traveler

    And in only six years.

    He has wrecked and ripped all aspects of the American fabric.

    He has raped the Constitution.

    He has demonstrated psychotic and moronic behaviors.

    He has earned the highest seat in American infamy.

    He has shown vile disdain for all that is right, fair, good, and sensible.

    He has shown himself as the face of stupid evil and evil stupidity.

    Bush is unworthy of even the remostest, most generous shred of respect.

    Bush: The worst president in the history of America, past and ever onward.


  •  As I stated above about the earnest e-mail... (1+ / 0-)
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    Progressive Witness

    ... to kos; it is just sic!

    A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude --Pablo Neruda

    by justiceputnam on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:27:32 PM PDT

  •  Barbara Boxer Is Another Sell-Out (0+ / 0-)

    I'm sickened watching Barbara Boxer (D?-CA) on the Senate floor working to "improve" the fascist Parental Notification Prior To Abortion Act (S-403), that allows reactionary state legislatures override the laws of neighboring states.  She's fallen for the red herring "father rapist" argument hook, line, and sinker.  Instead of spending the time to say this is another attempt to take away the rights of individuals to make their own medical decisions, and the rights of states to decide their own laws, she's talking in circles, saying nothing, and putting on a show that she knows will achieve nothing except give her face-time and Republicans false cover.  This is what's called being a camera whore, and a worthless politician.

  •  Nicholas Kristoff (0+ / 0-)

    Nicholas Kristoff has some things to add to this mess that may not have occured to Richard.

    Hope this tides you over until I can marshall my thoughts on the subject.


    Defending bad taste and liberalism since 2005.

    by jurassicpork on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:42:21 PM PDT

  •  I am trying so very hard... (4+ / 0-)
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    CJB, Illissius, sbdenmon, justiceputnam

    ...not to laugh at:

    the terrorist organization that planeded and carried out the 9/11 attacks

    But I've always been a sucker for unintentional gallows humor.

    Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts; only the heir to the throne of the kingdom of idiots would fight a war on twelve fronts. --Londo Mollari

    by Progressive Witness on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:46:21 PM PDT

  •  Ayayay! Poor deluded winger (0+ / 0-)

    As hilariously stupid as that letter was, the poor winger sounds so earnest and you have to admit he (tho' I'm guessing she) was polite.
    It's sad really.    I wish mom would stop writing letters like this.  

    -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

    by goldberry on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:47:39 PM PDT

  •  Better to fight them THERE instead of HERE ????? (2+ / 0-)
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    truong son traveler, Eikyu Saha

    Posted on my blog a few days ago...

    Insurgents and U.S. Military Agree: Location of War is Convenient

    Opposing forces see win-win situation in Iraq

    President Bush has never wavered from his argument that it is better to fight Islamic terrorists in Iraq than in America — and the Iraqi insurgency agrees with him.

    “It is a home game for us,” an insurgency spokesman recently told a group of American reporters.

    “Nonsense,” a Pentagon public information officer replied when confronted with the insurgency’s claims of a home-field advantage in the War. “The entire world is a home game for America. We have the fastest, most powerful logistical system ever developed. When our Humvees need some gasoline, we can transport it from the refinery in Houston to a fuel depot in Baghdad in just a few days. If we need it even faster we can airlift tons of gasoline the whole way in big jet tanker planes, which we can refuel during the trip using other big tanker planes.”

    When told of the Pentagon’s response, the insurgency spokesman shrugged and said “we walk to work.”

    In other news, an Iraqi insurgent carrying a rocket-propelled grenade was spotted and beaten by an angry mob yesterday in Salt Lake City, Utah. When arrested, he stammered to police “how it such you see me? Was yes my beard?”

    Richard Galli
    The Galli Report
    better than news any day

    •  Update to above report... (0+ / 0-)

      News media were forced to amend their account of a man beaten to death two days ago by an angry Salt Lake City mob.  Identification of the body revealed that he was an Israeli citizen.  His surviving family said that he had gone to Utah to "fight Hezbollah terrorism at its source."  Also, in a rare turn of events, it turns out the man actually spoke very good English.  Reports that the man had a 'stammer' were apparently made up by an overly-eager junior reporter who witnessed the victim die.  Autopsy results showed multiple bruises, apparently from being pummeled by hard-cover Bibles.  Evangelist Pat Robertson was quick to denounce the autopsy reports and declare that the weapons were not Bibles but "Books of Mormon."  New riots are now being reported from the same area.  

  •  uh oh (1+ / 0-)
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    Eikyu Saha

    Breaking news from ABC:


    D-Day, the newest blog on the internet (at the moment of its launch)

    by dday on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 02:56:01 PM PDT

  •  this has been bugging me all day, Kos (2+ / 0-)
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    Heart of the Rockies, nasarius

    This constant tendency to try to paint you as somebody who's risen above his raisin', so to speak.  Do we ever see a Republican or someone affiliated with the right interviewed in the way they interview you?  Do they ask about sofas replacing futons, new flat-screen TVs, and new pianos when talking to a rightie?  Do they inquire about salary?  Maybe if it's outrageous they do; I saw 60 Minutes make a big deal out of LaHaye's millions or billions.  But otherwise, no.  On the one hand they want to portray you, and by extension each of us, as an overgrown college kid or hippie.  On the other hand, they want to slap you down if you seem to be moving out of the box they've created for you (overgrown college kid or hippie).  It's just annoying as hell.  You deal with it well, though.  I wouldn't.

  •  Nightline Transcript (0+ / 0-)

    Good job not getting whacked by that Nightline interviewer, Markos!

    He was really gunning for you with the "you're a celebrity now, right?"  "you're contradicting yourself by attacking lieberman, aren't you?" and "what do you think of this sound bite from Newt Gingrich saying liberal blogs are dangerous to democrats?"

    LOL at that last

    Good job on a LONG interview!

    Oh yeah...screw you, too..I was up till almost 1am last night and bleary-eyed this morning because I was reading this darned transcript! :-P

    It is amazing how much can be accomplished when you don't care who gets the credit - Harry Truman
    PoliticalCompass Scale: -2.13, -2.97

    by floundericiousMI on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 03:02:58 PM PDT

    •  totally agree (0+ / 0-)

      the transcript is terrific.  the stuff they pulled to air was (1)inflammatory-- they thought & (2) obvious, familiar, often old -- couldn't believe they dug out the old mercenaries rag from '04 and sang the whole thing, chorus and refrain.

      The interviewer looked disapproving the whole time, or was it frustrated that he couldn't get a rise out of you.

      But the other stuff was really interesting. Solid, smart, strong.  Pity their choices were so blah.

      Man, are you quick on your feet or what.  (watch out for those scandinavians, though0

  •  good interview Markos. (0+ / 0-)

    always love seeing the eastbay in the background, you played off the expected ridiculous questions very well.

    love seeing the ykos coverage too.


  •  Nancy Pelosi said (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eikyu Saha

    it is inappropriate to honor him with a joint meeting of Congress."

    So if Maliki does not condemn Hezbollah he should not be "honored" by meeting with a congress that has stood on the sideline while his country has been invaded, occupied, terrorized, and pushed into ethnic cleansing and civil war?

    Regardless of what he does or does not say about Israel and Hezbollah - our congress should issue a statement that says:

    Is there anything worse than being ruled by a Stalin lovin tyrant? Yes...and we are sorry for constructing that reality for you. OOPS.

    Maybe we give him a mulligan on this condemnation?

    •  Pelosi requires Maliki to take a stand? (1+ / 0-)
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      On Hezbollah?  I agree: that is the height of hyprocrisy, when her Congress can't even take a stand on Bush.  But Pelosi herself might benefit from taking a stand on Israel.  Will she join the la-la crowd and claim that Israel is just all cuddly and innocent, and that it's always those nasty Arabs who start everything?  If anyone opposing Israel had used anything like the "once and for all" rhetoric used by Israeli politicians in the past two weeks, they would have been immediately condemned for "Final Solution" anti-Semitism.  Sorry, but Israel lost my sympathies in this confrontation long ago.  And to the extent that Pelosi and Reid et al keep up their disgustingly one-sided facade, they are losing me as well.  

      •  A new Middle East - (0+ / 0-)

        ashes and death must be essential ingredients.

        But first things first. Maliki must show the world that he is our puppet. Condemn what we want condemned. Ignore what we want ignored. Speak where we want, when we want, and with the right introductory remarks.

  •  Kos interview review: (1+ / 0-)
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    Heart of the Rockies

    Kos saw your interview last nite. As usual you were excellent. Your developing a really good TV persona. I think the media wants you to run for something. If that's the case my advice is run in the opposite direction FAST!! In any event your not giving these creeps anything to whack you with and boy are they looking. Funny isn't it that if anybody that is even a remote threat to them  dares to challenge these thugs they will scrutinize every word every thought every inference you've ever made and try to sink you with it. On the other hand Bu$h and his gang can commit any crime say anything no matter how much of an outrage and  they're all given a pass.
      Be careful my friend they're trying to set you up to take you and your site down.

    "It's better to die on your feet then live on your knees" E. Zapata

    by Blutodog on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 03:18:37 PM PDT

  •  why do you need a new piano (1+ / 0-)
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    you're old one seemed fine to Jake.
    And why aren't you homeless? you're a fake.

    Curious George is the story of a monkey. President George is also the story of a monkey.

    by steelman on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 03:21:21 PM PDT

  •  Scalia on the edge of full-scale war (0+ / 0-)

    Actually, the yahoo news headline read:

    Somalia on the edge of full-scale war

    but for a split second my brain read it as Scalia.  You can imagine my confusion.

    Obama is the next Lieberman

    by Irrelevant Prolixity on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 04:05:41 PM PDT

    •  Same thing. (0+ / 0-)

      Scalia is tight with the neocons who want apocalypse now.  Anything anywhere that is brought to "the edge of full-scale war" is a near-victory for Scalia.  Victory, of course, is war itself.  No confusion necessary.  

  •  Spitzer-Suozzi debate (0+ / 0-)

    Is anyone watching the Spitzer-Suozzi debate for governor in NY?

    Support Sean Patrick Maloney for New York State Attorney General.

    by Blue387 on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 04:09:50 PM PDT

  •  RE: moveon ad... (0+ / 0-)

    it seems to me that refusing to carry an ad is as beneficial to the republicians as carrying an ad, so maybe this should be treated as a campaign donation.

    Seems the fairest way to cover it under current laws...

  •  It's totally excellent that Jane Hamsher (0+ / 0-)

    is on the case.

    I just hope there are many in Connecticut who read hears what she has to say....  

  •  I Think Markos Got it Right! (0+ / 0-)

    Bush's new operation?

    Operation Whack-a-Mole!

    Baaaa! Baaaa! :::Chomp!::: Beat Doc!

    by InquisitiveRaven on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 04:53:03 PM PDT

  •  .. well, ain't that a fine how do you do .. ? (0+ / 0-)

    By Vicki Allen

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. congressional Democrats expressed alarm on Tuesday over Iraq's denunciation of Israel in the Middle East conflict ..

    ...  Hastert's spokesman, Ron Bonjean, said there was no intention of canceling Maliki's speech, and he accused Democrats of "political gamesmanship during an election year."

    Iraq's U.S.-backed government denounced Israel's raids on Lebanon and Gaza. Maliki last week called for "the world to take quick stands to stop the Israeli aggression."


    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California said unless Maliki "disavows his critical comments of Israel and condemns terrorism, it is inappropriate to honor him with a joint meeting of Congress."

    Complete article here ..

    •  Faux news has a slightly different version (0+ / 0-)

      and it includes this gem

      Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said Pelosi's comments undermine U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

      "The House Democrat Leader and some of her Democrat colleagues may not agree with the liberation of Iraq and they may not agree with criticism by some against Israel's actions but their continued efforts to undermine the advancement of freedom and democracy in Iraq is shameful," he said.

      Criticism of al-Maliki's comments condemning Israel and calling on the "world to take quick stands to stop the Israeli aggression" appear to be breaking down along party lines in Congress.

      As that green blooded guy with the pointy ears says .. 'faaaaascinating' ..

      •  I posted down thread or up thread (0+ / 0-)

        about this. I think it is absurd for anybody in the US to be criticizing Maliki based on what he saying or not saying.

        I mean good grief, we have screwed up his country. How can we justify criticizing him when the US has turned his country into a failed state.

        So if Maliki does not condemn Hezbollah he should not be "honored" by meeting with a congress that has stood on the sideline while his country has been invaded, occupied, terrorized, and pushed into ethnic cleansing and civil war?

        Regardless of what he does or does not say about Israel and Hezbollah - our congress should issue a statement that says:

        Is there anything worse than being ruled by a Stalin lovin tyrant? Yes...and we are sorry for constructing that reality for you. OOPS.

        Maybe we give him a mulligan on this condemnation?

        •  I agree, but even worse... (0+ / 0-)

          If Pelosi allows Cornyn to draw Dem/Rep lines on this issue, Pelosi will come out the loser.  She needs to back off.  Now.  

          (You're other post was about seven or eight parents up: makes sense).  

          •  so, we are all in agreement then (0+ / 0-)

            It's OK for the Iraqi government to voice a one sided viewpoint against Israel, and Democrats should STFU about it.

            Well, maybe .. we are not all in agreement, after all.

            Those who want to agree with Cornyn, I suggest you put on something heavy before you lie down in the bed that he sleeps in. Really heavy.

            •  That's ridiculous. (0+ / 0-)

              What I'm complaining about is a one-sided viewpoint FOR Israel on the part of Pelosi.  Compared to the U.S. Congress -- which is implicitly supporting the indiscriminate killing of people in Lebanon -- Maliki is an insignificant player.  

              It is equally ridiculous to accuse me of being 'in bed' with Cornyn.  I'm sure I can find a Democrat or two who does not show signs of being infected with unreflective support for Israel's latest death mission.  Pelosi is fading quickly, and I just hope she doesn't drag other Dems with her.  And I also hope that the "Israel-is-always-right" crowd doesn't try to split the party over this.  

  •  Poetic Justice Theatre (0+ / 0-)

    Poetic Justice-Don't burn the flag! Wash it!

    by prime63 on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 05:01:18 PM PDT

  •  Some more words on Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah. (0+ / 0-)

    Some pretty nasty words for Israel and the GOP in general. Don't say you haven't been warned. My daughter just got engaged to a possessive, racist right wing asshole and I'm in a foul fucking mood these days.


    Defending bad taste and liberalism since 2005.

    by jurassicpork on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 05:10:40 PM PDT

  •  Damn, Jane is really cute!! (0+ / 0-)

    Smart, funny and beautiful women. They're all pretty much on our side.

  •  don't look now. (0+ / 0-)

    but John Laesch just totally kicked ass on Verified Voting.

    right here

    he's the real deal man.


  •  'Freedom isn't Free'? really? you don't say? (0+ / 0-)

    maybe these lyrics will help out us silly silly progressive, THINKING, idgits.

    make you sing it with a drawwwwwl

    compliments of Trey Parker:

    What would you do
    If you were asked to give up your dreams for freedom
    What would you do
    If asked to make the ultimate sacrifice

    Would you think about all them people
    Who gave up everything they had.
    Would you think about all them War Vets
    And would you start to feel bad

    Freedom isn't free
    It costs folks like you and me
    And if we don't all chip in
    We'll never pay that bill
    Freedom isn't free
    No, there's a hefty fuckin' fee.
    And if you don't throw in your buck 'o five
    Who will?

    What would you do
    If someone told you to fight for freedom.
    Would you answer the call
    Or run away like a little pussy
    'Cause the only reason that you're here.
    Is 'cause folks died for you in the past
    So maybe now it's your turn
    To die kicking some ass

    Freedom isn't free
    It costs folks like you and me
    And if we don't all chip in
    We'll never pay that bill
    Freedom isn't free
    Now there's a have to hook'in fee
    And if you don't throw in your buck 'o five
    Who will?

    You don't throw in your buck 'o five. Who will?
    Oooh buck 'o five
    Freedom costs a buck 'o five

  •  Sorry kos..that comment you posted (0+ / 0-)

    was neither stupid nor tragic.

    I gotta say, I've really detected an air of elitist condescension pervading this place. No one hates Bush, his policies and his bumper-sticker presidency more than I do.

    But that comment you included neatly encapsulates the mindset of the people we want to help us throw these incompetent assholes out of power. There is nothing wrong with misspelled platitudes - those people have been fed RNC swill for years and they regurgitate it on cue.

    But they vote, and they believe what they believe. We have to give them a good reason to change their mind. Treating them, in print or in action, as knuckle-walking morons doesn't win votes.

    The side that recognizes that this IS a war of ideas second, loses.

    My $0.02.

  •  What if Australia had WMD?? (0+ / 0-)

    "I too am glad we went ahead and went to war because what would of happened if Saddam actually had WMD?"

    That's good reasoning.  He didn't have any, but what if he did?  What if Australia has it?  Let's bomb it to make sure...

    By the way, let's summarize:
    North Korea, has WMD, president ignores
    Iran, boasts trying to get WMD, president says diplomacy

    Iraq, no WMD, .....

    Tell the moron to put away his yellow ribbon and suit up, and maybe he'll join the other vets who are turning Dem

  •  Disagree with Kos and Bowers on 'meta' (0+ / 0-)

    Democrats need to have these discussions about strategy (Republicans, including people like Rove and Melman, do just the same thing, btw).  And these conferences are not paid attention to by the general public--only by political junkies like us.

    If Democratic activists don't get exposed to the warning that they need to be careful not to alienate swing voters, the party will stay in the wilderness.  The notion that if we are just strident and uncompromising enough, we'll wake up legions of nonvoters to swarm to our side...well, it's just preposterous.  We need to appeal to people who have voted Republican in the past, as well as energising our own base.  It's a tricky balancing act to be sure, but when the base is inflexible, it becomes impossible.


    -9.00, -3.69 Bush, 12/12/05: "I think we are welcomed [in Iraq]. But it was not a peaceful welcome."

    by SlackerInc on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 06:17:18 PM PDT

  •  shameless plug (0+ / 0-)

    (and I asked several people if it was ok form to do this, if its not, just delete, and let me know, Thanks Diane)

    My only other regular blogging site, has managed for 4 yrs with no advertising, but has finally decided its time.  They get 8-10K unique hits a day.  It is POAC , Project for the Old American Century; a direct anti-PNAC site, more based on non MSM news than blogging.
    Want your ad seen?  Lotta traffic here, get in on the ground floor and get a good spot!


  •  of course it's not enough of the meta (0+ / 0-)

    on dkos.

    LOL.  if the DLC said "we agree with bowers", bowers's head would go "pop."

    "this is ourselves/ under pressure." -- freddy mercury

    by BiminiCat on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 06:55:38 PM PDT

  •  that e-mail (0+ / 0-)

    The sheer density of republican talking points contained within is staggering.

    Be tolerant with others and strict with yourself. --Marcus Aurelius

    by arb on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 06:57:38 PM PDT

  •  McCloskey, a reminder that... (0+ / 0-)

    ...not all Republicans were as awful as the bunch in power now.  Good for him.  Not surprising though.  For him it's personal - about the ESA.  It should help.  Enough?  Hope so.

    Meanwhile, that anti-email made me chuckle.  Ages ago, perhaps the first talking toy was the Chatty Cathy doll.  Put your finger in a little ring, and pull a string, and it had a repetoire of a dozen or so sayings.

    That e-mail is what a Neo-Con Chatty Cathy would say.

  •  Markos, (0+ / 0-)

    With all the joking aside, that was really one sad, uninformed e-mail that you received.  Our media needs to be all fired, aside from Keith and maybe Lou Dobbs.  Actually, Jon and Stephen should become our real newsmen, as they do a better job. Peace and love, mjd

  •  Holy Dog Shit (0+ / 0-)

    Using "Bush" and "peacemaker" in the same sentence? I expect a little better from CNN.

    More democratic? We'll be lucky if it's still standing. What is all this "democracy" bullshit anyway, a silver bullet?

    The knotheaded story excerpted illustrates perfectly why we are in deep shit and sinking fast. We are in fact, right now, being stripped of our freedoms. There is no more dissent without being labeled a traitor, our privacy is completely compromised, due process means nothing.

    "What ifs" are not a valid reason for going to war; that statement puzzles me.

    The sad thing is that the majority of the electorate is equally misguided and stupid.

    Don't blame me, I voted for Bill and Opus.

    by Trim Your Bush on Tue Jul 25, 2006 at 08:11:13 PM PDT

  •  meta (0+ / 0-)

    yeah, no more meta

    post only on important stuff

    like the abortion law

    and Israel

    and stuff.

  •  Letter from the right (0+ / 0-)

    It is tragic. I just got a forwarded email from my republicanl cousin. They want everyone to contact their senators about making english the official language. This is what they are up in arms about today. I think they are all brain dead and there will be no stem cell transplants to fix their dead brains!

  •  Stopping MoveOn 'Red Handed' Ads (0+ / 0-)

    It is no surprize to me that the forces that be are
    stopping the airing of MoveOn Ads from the airwaves.
    It like my history teacher said in high school: "money
    talks, bullshit walks and we are all running a close third". So much for "free speech" if no one can hear you.  It is just like the "free speech zones" set up
    when ever the President comes to town.  Protesters are
    restricted to this "free speech zone" and the media is ordered not to film, interview or cover the protestors in any way.  Anyone without a ticket or who carries a sign or wears a anti war anot Bush T shirt is arrested. So much for the First Amendment of the Constitution.
    You can't "peacably assemble and petition the government("of the people, by the people and for the people") "for redress of grievances" if it opposes the
    "unitary executive".

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