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It wasn't even close.

Alaska Republican Gov. Frank H. Murkowski was decisively beaten in Tuesday's primary election, placing third to winner Sarah Palin, a former Wasilla mayor, and former state Sen. John Binkley in a contest that ingloriously ended the political career of one of Alaska's more durable officeholders.

With 56 percent of the vote counted, Murkowski had just 19 percent of the vote to Palin's 51 percent and Binkley's 30 percent. Longshot candidates Gerald L. Heikes and Merica Hlatcu split the remainder of the GOP vote.

Palin will face former Gov. Tony Knowles (1994-2002), who had 73 percent of the Democratic vote against state Rep. Eric Croft (26 percent) and Bruce J. Lemke (1 percent).

It's amazing seeing all the news stories this morning of the crazy, angry jihadists who have purged their Republican Party of Murkowski.

Oh wait, no one is writing that...

I forgot that booting an incumbent is fine if you are a Republican.

Update: Hilarious comment by AustinCynic:

Lieberman should go national

He should change "Connecticut for Lieberman" to "Incumbents for Entitlement" and get people like Murkowski to join.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:29 AM PDT.

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  •  But surely (19+ / 0-)

    there will be truckloads of commentary when Rhode Island Republicans boot Lincoln Chafee.

    Right?

    Anyone?

    Bueller?

    Non mi placent, O Pincerna. Virent Ova! Viret Perna!

    by quaoar on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:14:42 AM PDT

    •  We need Chafee to lose badly (4+ / 0-)

      The other Interview on Hardball last night that was noteworthy was that of CT republican Senate Candidate (no the OTHER republican candidate) Schelsinger.  And while he doesn't have a prayer in the race he is a very good poltical analyst and he laid out how the current Liberman Lamont race is the perfect "Win/Win" scenario for the GOP.

      Because of the way they and the Media are painting Lamont, if he wins the GOP's line will be "You see how radical the Democractic has become?  They are captives of their extreme left wing, and can't be trusted to run the country"

      If Lieberman wins the Line is "well the voters had a referendum on the Iraq war and they clearly still support the President and staying the course, and reject the Cut-and-run Extremists who control the party"

      We need an effective Counter argument to offer up to the media when their frenzy- pendulum swings back the other way (as it inevitably will) and they start taking a skeptical look at the attacks on Lamont.  Chaffee defeat will be a tailor-made "Republican are radicalizing "storyline as well.

      Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

      by Magorn on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:27:00 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I saw some Virgina Republican (3+ / 0-)

        doofus on Fox yesterday (not sure who – I was channel surfing) saying that once the Americans learn what the Democratic plan was for fighting terrorism that they would turn to the Republicans. No - if all they hear is the Republican talking points version of Democratic ideas, sure. Which is all many of the media outlets are likely to give them. We've got to push hard on things like port security and other areas where the Republicans have been negligent.

        Conservatives believe evil comes from violating rules. Liberals think evil comes from violating each other.

        by tcorse on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:32:57 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  the counter argument is (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        kos, Magorn, liberal atheist

        "The Republican candidate got 9% of the vote."

        Anybody who tries to spin that as "positive" for the GOP should be ridiculed endlessly.

      •  GREAT encapsulation of their spin. BUT (1+ / 0-)
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        Magorn

        Lamont, if he wins the GOP's line will be "You see how radical the Democractic has become?  They are captives of their extreme left wing, and can't be trusted to run the country." ......If Lieberman wins the Line is "well the voters had a referendum on the Iraq war and they clearly still support the President and staying the course, and reject the Cut-and-run Extremists who control the party    

        We don't need an effective "counter" line, we need to show that this is what they are doing -- blantantly lying (show it with the facts, don't say it unless its not implicitly going to target/insult their voters; when it is done, say it, but in terms of using it as a generalization to voters, don't) in lieu of substantive discussion because they dont understand the issues, and this is why they can't govern. it's all rhetorical bullshit and it needs to be exposed; IT needs to become the story.

        KOS,

        It's amazing seeing all the news stories this morning of the crazy, angry jihadists who have purged their Republican Party of Murkowski.

        Oh wait, no one is writing that...

        I forgot that booting an incumbent is fine if you are a Republican

        Maybe because prominent democrats are not spinning it that way. not focusing on effectively making the case just how extreme the republican party has become, how it has mischaracterized the issues, repeatedly, how it has undermined American principles, how it is constantly misleading voters and how it has not made America safer, not made the world safer, and again, does not know what it is doing.

        Does not know what it is doing when it comes to policy, and governing, that is.  

        Meanwhile, on the other hand, this case has not been made, because maybe, when it comes to politics, democrats dont know what thefuck they are doing. (sorry for poor 1st paragraph grammar in that very late posted comment therein.)

        And there is also another reason. while I support the emphasis on correctly characterizing Lieberman  (he is a de facto republican, who, worse, repeats some right and far right projectionist spin in mischaracterizing the democratic party, and on differences of opinion on Iraq...) there is a difference betweeen effectively making that case and playing into the right's hands by being vitriolic, rather than appear to be reasoned, or powerfully emphatic...

        It's all the name calling of Lieberman on here. it's an unnamed diary that got 2000 recommends and 250 over enthusiastic comments, that lays into Lieberman viciously, and using logic that was, frankly, sophisticated, but a decided attempt discredit (to discredit something effectively needs to appear as the opposite to non democratic eyes) that appeared to the non staunch partisan, to be a hatchet job.

        And, more importantly, there is of course this asinine notion, that mainstream democrats have not turned around, that Lamont, despite the facts, represents an extreme element, and is bad for the party; a blatant mischaracterization that democrats have not just not turned around on those making it, but, as further evidence of the pattern that they just don't understand what is going on politically, have themselves sometimes contributed to!

        ...Editor Weisberg of slate was the worst, writing a piece that mischaracterized Lamont's victory and support in a way that the rove spin doctors could not have written better themselves. Peter Hart, top democratic strategist, said Lamont's victory was bad, showed dem's were one dimensional -- and that  it detracted from what the debate should be about, when this was only the case if the right spins it this way and democrats let them get away with it (and here they were helping them....).  

        And then of course, there is the biggest reason of all. The friggin media.  this is the same sick ass media that the other day -- all two major cable news networks and the third that poses as one -- actually reported as news the details of what John Mark Kerr ate on his airplane ride.  20,000 murders, here's one from ten years ago. a suspect, and the fucking food he eats ("prawns and brocolli and rice," and other such critical news details) on a plane ride is news.

        Regarding the media, that same crappola spin machine which under the first Amendment is supposed to be serving as an independent fourth estate (and -- note to the media here -- not just merely a tube to reiterate talking points through), and under our founding father's vision was in some ways more important than the government itself in making sure that democracy works: here, all in one piece, is what it is doing, the critical (and cogently made) case about the seminal governmental issue of our times and more, and (in the almost non stop comments to the piece) an apt illustration of the correct focus on it all.

    •  Kudos to Alaska GOPers AND Connecticut Democrats (4+ / 0-)

      For years we hear people say, "Oh all the politicians are liars.  They are corrupt. Blah Blah blah."

      Well Joe Lieberman and Murkowski symbolized the WORST traits of a politician.  Both men are crooks, liars, and bordering on evil.  

      So voters got rid of them.  Isn't that democracy?  Makes me feel better as an American to see this.  

  •  Yes! IOKIYAR! (7+ / 0-)

    How can you people keep forgetting!?

  •  FOX News is asking its experts if this (19+ / 0-)

    means the death of the GOP as we know it. Murkowski says that he will run as an independent to save the country, and the NYTimes wonders if this will help the Dem's in November.

    17. Ne5

    In chess you may hit a man when he's down -- Irving Chernev, on Przepiorka v. Prokes, Budapest, 1929

    by Spud1 on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:16:21 AM PDT

  •  I think he should run as an independant.. (6+ / 0-)

    maybe we should back him...wait, I'll ask Joe.

    "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self." --Aristotle

    by java4every1 on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:16:39 AM PDT

  •  we all know (8+ / 0-)

    that the GOP defends America and kicking out one Goper for another is right inline with protecting America. Only Democrats harm our nation, only Democrats are in bed with the terrorists, move on, nothing new to see here....<SNARK>

  •  Is He forming the (7+ / 0-)

    Alaska for Murkowski party or ALMs for the poor?

    Let us resolve to be the masters,not the victims,of our history,controlling our own destiny without giving way to blind suspicions & emotions- JFK

    by vcmvo2 on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:17:05 AM PDT

  •  They got Frank the Tank? (7+ / 0-)

    Yeeeagggh.  I suppose it's too much to hope that Alaskans will ever turn blue (unless they spend too much time outside), so I doubt a Democrat has any real chance in a statewide election.  

    However, Given that the name Murkowski in Alaska is roughly equivalent to Daley in Chicago this is a Powerful sign that there is an anti-incumbent fever  sweeping this nation that should bode very well for us.

    Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

    by Magorn on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:18:12 AM PDT

  •  Dems are really into recycling up there! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Militarytracy, Turbonerd

    sheesh -- my not so bold prediction:
    Gov. Sarah Palin by 12%.

    'If Kos hadn't changed the rating protocol, I'd "3" you upside the head -- old school.' PBJ Diddy

    by PhillyGal on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:18:30 AM PDT

    •  Just checked out her website (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Jake Nelson, tcorse, Militarytracy

      Seems like a true-red Republican. Given that Knowles was governor 2 times before, I think he has a shot...however, he lost statewide against Lisa Murkowski, so who knows how he'll do against Palin.

      And on a more shallow note, Palin is lookin' good.

      Deny My Freedom
      "Inconvenient truths do not go away just because they are not seen." -Al Gore

      by PsiFighter37 on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:20:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Palin's running as a 'reformer' and yes, (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        iCaroline, Militarytracy

        she's a stunner! considering that Alaska is disportionately Republican, and disportionately male (or so I've heard -- 10-1 ratio? can it be?) -- she'll win on her looks alone!

        'If Kos hadn't changed the rating protocol, I'd "3" you upside the head -- old school.' PBJ Diddy

        by PhillyGal on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:24:54 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  true red (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        PhillyGal, Christopher Walker

        The thing is, Palin's campaign steered clear of red-meat GOP issues. Ask her about abortion or gay rights and she'd craft a political answer. Her views are indeed not very moderate, but she ran purely on character & integrity.

        With Murkowski out of the race, the integrity factor is out the window. (Some Murkowski supporters, in true Rovian fashion, were sounding alarms that Palin's ethical lapses would become an issue in the campaign.) Does Palin embrace the core of the GOP -- the opposite of usual post-primary strategy -- or does she continue to hew to the middle?

        By the way, 2nd place GOPer John Binkley actually far outspent Palin and Murkowski, to no avail. His money couldn't overcome Palin's reputation as the real protest candidate.

        •  What about subsistence? (0+ / 0-)

          Hey, Grumpy, do you think Sarah's stand on subsistence will hurt her, or do you think people don't care about rural preference anymore?
          (for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, consider yourselves lucky)
          Also, how about the capital location (supposedly, Palin's support for Juneau is kind of weak) and the Juneau road (which she does support strongly)? Does she get hurt in southeast? Or is that more than compensated for by her support from commercial fishermen? Commercial fishermen are pissed off at Knowles for various arcane reasons I can't quite follow.
          I'm pretty bad at predicting elections, but my guess is that Sarah wins handily. Alaskans are just in love with her, and maybe consider Knowles old hat, even though people generally like him. Of course, this entire election may be the biggest charm face-off ever.

  •  Unlike the GOP and their stooge Lieberman (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MTgirl, s marie, java4every1, Templar

    I couldn't give a fuck what happens within the Republican party...so long as their 'winner' loses in November.

    Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:18:31 AM PDT

  •  Wondering about the wonder of it all. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Sister Havana

    Perhaps Gov. Murkowski will jump to that new party known as the "Alaskans for Lieberman."

    I hear they get a lot of mojo from Bu$hInc.

    Impeach. Convict. Deport. Indict. Imprison at the Hague--Milosovic Memorial cell

    by whl on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:19:15 AM PDT

  •  Sarah Palin (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    WisVoter

    I know she's very conservative, although she isn't as blatant about it as one of her primary opponents, who thinks people choose to be gay (at least she said, "I don't know"). What is her position on the amendment against domestic partner benefits that the legislature failed to pass this year?

    She seems like she's going to be tough to beat, but Tony Knowles is a very good candidate.

  •  Goes to show (0+ / 0-)

    When the only thing your standing on is oil..Stay off the slope!

    "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self." --Aristotle

    by java4every1 on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:20:20 AM PDT

  •  Maybe we should rename the Republican Party... (6+ / 0-)

    as the Donner Party...

    Dudehisattva... <div style="color: #0000a0;">"Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"&l

    by Dood Abides on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:20:31 AM PDT

  •  Unfair argument Kos. (8+ / 0-)

    You know much better than that.

    It's amazing seeing all the news stories this morning of the crazy, angry jihadists who have purged their Republican Party of Murkowski.

    Oh wait, no one is writing that...

    I forgot that booting an incumbent is fine if you are a Republican.

    Lamont's campaign, though broadening at the end was very focused on one issue:  A democrat cozying up to the Republican president's agenda.

    This was constantly hammered home by the war, The Kiss, and the "you undermine the president at your peril" comment.

    AK-GOV is very different.  This is about a state turning on its governor because of all kinds of scandals, corruption and incompetence.  Not a fair anaolgy.  Not by a country mile.

    If you notice the press isn't using the same "Democrats eat their own" when we put a primary challenger against Blago in Illinois.  Nor did the same "radicalized Democrat" label get bandied about when McKinney got sent packing.

    Let's try to be a little more fair and balanced here.

    Thinking men can not be ruled. --Ayn Rand

    by Wisper on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:20:31 AM PDT

  •  oooh! ooooh! (7+ / 0-)

    Frank!  Don't take this lying down!  The citizens of Alaska deserve their voices to be heard!  All of them!  Not just the few who show up a primary on a hot August day!  Now is the time to boldly mount an Independent run for Governor!  Alaska4Murkowski is desperately seeking a candidate!!

    -9.50;-6.62. But it don't mean nuttin if you don't put your money where your mouth is

    by ultrageek on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:20:48 AM PDT

  •  Allah Akbar!!!! (6+ / 0-)

    Praise G-D that the infidel Murkowski has been beaten!  Surely the terrorists will see this as a great victory against the American Imperialists!

    Right?

    Surely, Cheney will soon rebuke the Islamo-Fascist-Alaskan-Republican-haters-of-'merican-soldiers?

    Or did I dream it?

    Snarkity snark snark snark...

    "Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism."  Tommy J.

  •  I guess its that evil 'biasedliberalmedia' (0+ / 0-)

    I mean, they aren't even talking about Chaffe v. Laffey, even though its almost a mirror image of what happened in CT. And you have to really dig to read about Akaka v. case, which is a case where a moderate, pro war blue dog is trying to boot an anti war liberal.

  •  This is Retarted (2+ / 0-)
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    libertyisliberal, Templar

    Anyone making any national implcations out of this is reaching at best.

    Alaska is a small state whose political culture is isolated from that of the Lower 48 and whose elections are more personality driven than anywhere else.

    Alaskans never forgave Murkoski for appointing his daughter to the Senate, and are scared shitless about loosing their oil revenue because he was asleep at the wheel and let BP screw up their pipeline.

    End of story.

    Its not a purge of Republicans or anything else of national significence.

    •  I think that's the point (5+ / 0-)

      The CT race wasn't a "purge" either. Voters happened to select one candidate based largely upon an issue that was more important to them than it was to others in other parts of the country. You can't read too much nationally into a statewide race for anything, be it governor or senator. The defeat of Lieberman doesn't mean that there's  purge going on in the Democratic party. After all, probably our best chance to pick up a GOP senate seat is with a pro war, anti abortion candidate in PA. Ben Nelson is far more conservative than Lieberman and is cruising to reelection with full Democratic support. Somehow the media ignores all of this and more, and makes Lamont the symbol for the entire Democratic party.

    •  If Alaskans are so pissed (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Radiowalla, Miss Blue, AUBoy2007

      because Murkowski appointed his daughter to the Senate, then why did they re-elect her?

      Serious question. I don't get it.

      Non mi placent, O Pincerna. Virent Ova! Viret Perna!

      by quaoar on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:34:03 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  re: pissed (0+ / 0-)

        Appointing Lisa was Frank's first mistake, but it wasn't his last. Obviously, Alaskans forgave Lisa for her father's mistake in 2004.

        Frank's problem has been a constellation of character flaws. If nothing else, he's just a poor speaker and comes off as an insensitive jerk. As opposed, say, to Tony Knowles, who's just as craven a politician but comes across as more polished.

      •  Bush Coatails (0+ / 0-)

        Its hard to remember now, but Gerorge W. had some serious coatails in 2002 and 2004.

        How did a guy like Jim Bunning get re-elected?

        Or that nut from Oaklahoma who thinks lesbianism is a disease.

        Bush as once fiercly popular.

  •  Alternative Universe. (4+ / 0-)

    Are you actually suggesting that the great American Press isn't playing fair? These are the same people who told us from day 1 that the case for WMD in Iraq was shaky, and that Bush's Nat. Gaurd service was suspect. Don't you remember the way they bravely revealed the falacious Swift Boat Veterans, or the way they jumped all over the Downing St. Memo?
    My God Kos, if the press was as feeble as you seem to suggest in this piece, we would have actauly gone to war with Iraq and President Kerry might even have lost to Bush in 2004. What sort of alternative universe do you live in?

  •  Terrorists are celebrating... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    iCaroline, Spud1, libertyisliberal

    The news that another staunch supporter of the Iraq War has lost his primary is rally the spirits of Al Qaeda across the globe.

    GOOD GOING GOP.   YOU ARE HURTING AMERICA.

    "The people have spoken. The Bastards." -- Mo Udall

    by Dissento on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:26:36 AM PDT

  •  al-Qaeda is celebrating (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Spud1, citizenx, Sister Havana

    After all, they celebrated after Lieberman was defeated.

    "A man who won't die for something isn't fit to live." -MLK

    by gjohnsit on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:27:44 AM PDT

  •  A minor setback... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    iCaroline

    I think the Connecticut for Lieberman party is a "big tent" party, so perhaps Gov. Murkowski can sign on with them.

    Primaries are so last-century anyway.

  •  BREAKING! Murkowski blames bloggers!! n/t (4+ / 0-)

    17. Ne5

    In chess you may hit a man when he's down -- Irving Chernev, on Przepiorka v. Prokes, Budapest, 1929

    by Spud1 on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:32:33 AM PDT

  •  Obviously, Murkowski is a librul... (0+ / 0-)

    ...so of course it's ok to kick him out in a primary!

    Thwarting the forces of idiocy since 1978. -6.38, -6.00

    by wiscmass on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:32:54 AM PDT

  •  Is there any blood (0+ / 0-)

    seeping from Ted Stevens' hip? Medic!!!!!!

    "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self." --Aristotle

    by java4every1 on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:33:45 AM PDT

  •  Angry Alaskans (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    iCaroline, bree, Militarytracy, citizenx

    I'll never forget the election that brought in Gov. Murkowski. It was the last one I voted in in Alaska.

    He had his campaign workers on the streetcorners waving signs that said VOTE MURKOWSKI PROTECT YOUR WALLET.

    (Frank understands Alaskans pretty well.)

    He had one platform plank. It was that he wouldn't create any state taxes-- except that oops, right after the election he realized he might have to.

    As U.S. senator, he would also be in the position to appoint his own successor, and he wouldn't say who he was considering because there were so many excellent candidates, it was going to be an extremely difficult choice (no he couldn't say who those excellent candidates were, it wouldn't be fair).

    Right after the election, of course, it turned out the most excellent candidate was his own daughter, Lisa Murkowski.

    Alaskans don't mind being lied to any more than the rest of the electorate does, but they like the liar to have a little more finesse.

    -9.0, -8.3. A rabid lamb since November, 2004.

    by SensibleShoes on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:38:20 AM PDT

  •  An incumbent finished 3rd in a statewide primary? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    iCaroline, Rumour95

    When was the last time that happened in a governor's race or a U.S. Senate race? That would have to be the definition of repudiation.

  •  I think the difference between AK and CT (0+ / 0-)

    is that the results in the former was based mostly on nepotism, and lack of personal popularity, while in the latter, it was mostly based on overall ideology.

    The other difference is that as was the case in NH in 2002, the incumbent was not the "establishment" candidate.  In fact the establishment wanted him out as much as everyone else.  The same cannot be said about CT.

    •  I'm not so sure about that (0+ / 0-)

      the "establishment" candidates would have probably been either Murky or Binkley...Palin supposedly ran a "grass roots" campaign.  The attack ads against her were well financed but had little effect.

      •  Palin has a lot of independent support (0+ / 0-)

        It's important to remember that the Republican primary is not a Republican-only primary, so the election result is not entirely a situation of Republicans booting out their own incumbent.
        Palin draws lots of support from independents. Anyone who is a registered Republican or simply not registered in any other party is allowed to vote in the R primary. Every Alaska voter, registered in any party or none, is allowed to vote in the "combined" primary, where the Dems, Greens, Libertarians, etc. run.
        Most Alaska voters choose not to affiliate with any party. That's just the way it is here.
        That is one difference between Alaska and Connecticut, for what it's worth.
        And also for what it's worth, I have no doubt that Murkowski would have lost badly even if the only people allowed to vote in the GOP primary were registered Republicans.

  •  All of our politicians are missing a major point! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    java4every1

    We need to investigate/conduct oversight of the Cheney/Rummy/Bush/Rice cabal, BUSHCO, with their corporate corruption and fraud against our troops and the poor Afghanis and Iraqis with missing or worthless sub-sub-sub contracted services such as security, supplies and especially infrastructure repair ( the sad thing is that most sub-contracts don't go to Afghanis but to PAKISTANIS that steal everything off a truck or contract with no oversight either) I would bet that 50% of our tax-payer dollars are stolen!!!   My Staff Sgt. son and his guys returned last month from their year in Afghanistan and gave up their 20 year/2nd career plans as National Guardsmen due to the no-bid corruption and Rummy/Bushco bombing civilian areas this spring and turning the populace against our troops.  Our military deserves War Crime and War Profiteering charges against the BUSHCO Cabal...  My sons best friend is a Warrant Officer camped outside of Baghdad and his only mission is to keep his guys alive until they return stateside in November.  They accomplish nothing for the Iraqi people...  Jack Murtha, Kerry and Hackett are 100% correct and the McCain/Lieberman "BUSHCO CABAL" members do not deserve a pass thru the November elections as they are lying thru their teeth by not acknowledging the Civil War in Iraq and they are only selfishly looking out for their own personal, political asses!!   Our military and our cheated citizens here and citizens overseas deserve immediate investigations of the crimes, fraud and corruption!

    •  A question for fellow Kos members? (0+ / 0-)

      I bought my senior son at FSU a package of socks and another of boxers. When I got them home,  I realized that both were made in Pakistan and they were name brands.  My elderly mother was visiting us from Michigan and she bought me a big oversized bathtowel at Macys last week and damn if that wasn't made in Pakistan.  Why are we supporting the Pakistanis vs. the Iraqis and Afghanis, when the Pakistanis are harboring Osama Bin Ladin and stealing our tax-payer monies thru corruption along with Cheney no-bid, no-oversight corporations?  I will not buy another product until I check where it was made!

  •  This isn't like Lieberman/Lamont (0+ / 0-)

    I mean, Murkowski was in favor of dismantling an entitlement program for the elderly (Longevity Bonus), had a position on an important issue that was strongly opposed by a majority of the citizenry (oil & gas profits), and showed his stubbornness by pursuing something after it was rejected by the people (the jet).

    Oh wait, Lieberman had similar ideas on Social Security, the Iraq War, and running in the general election.

    At least in this case Murkowski was rejected by a majority in his party.  Oh wait...

    Tony Knowles, the Once and Future Governor.

    by sedrik39 on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:44:49 AM PDT

  •  So we now have (2+ / 0-)
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    iCaroline, libertyisliberal

    four major incumbents beaten in the 2006 cycle, all in August:

    Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Connecticut) - Evil leftists trying to make the Democratic Party Communist.

    Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Georgia) - No comment.

    Rep. Joe Schwarz (R-Michigan) - Real Republicans trying to reclaim the Party of Reagan from menacing Rockefeller liberals!

    Alaska Gov. Frank Murkowski (R) - Sane Republicans trying to reclaim the Party of Reagan from menacing idiots!

    Walberg and Palin - good. Lamont - bad.

  •  Bloggers are ruining America! (3+ / 0-)

    Murkowski's loss is not what you think it is.

    One person, one vote my ass.

    Pajama-clad, fat-butted computer nerds have hijacked this country.

    When will the madness stop?

    "What does the Lord require of you but to do justice and to love kindness and to walk humbly with your God?"-- Micah 6:8

    by Mad Mom on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 08:49:07 AM PDT

  •  and (2+ / 0-)
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    Check out Wyoming, who also had a primary yesterday.  Barbara Cubin (Republican incumbent in the at large seat in Congress) was facing a no-name candidate with virtually no funding in one of those races that incumbents usually get 80-90% in.  She got 60%.

    People want change!

  •  Can't even head the advice being dolled out here! (1+ / 0-)
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    Lots of people have said that if you're sick and tired of reading about the Lieberman/Lamont race, ignore those diaries.  Well, now I can't even read the non-Lieberman/Lamont diaries because 75% of them find some way to reference that race!  GIVE US ALL A BREAK!  2006 is about more than that race!!!!!

  •  The difference being (0+ / 0-)

    that Murkowski's approval rating was in the 20's. Lieberman's still over 50. Big difference.

    Another day, another multiple front page diary posting on Lieberman-Lamont. Rove is laughing so hard he's peeing in his pants.

  •  What were the differences between candidates... (0+ / 0-)

    that put Palin on top?  

    Was Murkowski not anti-rule-of-law enough?  Perhaps Murkowski was too friendly to brown people?  Maybe Murkowski didn't pledge to bilk the taxpayers by paying off his contributing enablers with government contracts?

    (started this post with a serious question and then let the snark take me away - I need lunch).

    "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

    by Five of Diamonds on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 09:19:09 AM PDT

  •  Did Murkowski lose because of ideology? (0+ / 0-)

    Or just because people roundly regarded his appointment of his own daughter as way over the line?

    Murkowski and Brinkley seemed pretty much identical to me, not sure about Palin.

    "Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth." -- JFK

    by Tryptophan on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 09:21:08 AM PDT

    •  He was just a terrible governor (2+ / 0-)
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      The "skills" he supposedly honed in the Senate (lots of bluster, bullying and getting accustomed to deference) and the big issues and causes that consumed him (huge mega-projects that sap state money from more important things, for example) just did not translate to the office of governor.
      The appointment of Lisa was his first misstep, but it was probably the least bad. There are far too many to name, involving diverse subjects ranging from the (mis)management of the state ferry system to the cancellation of no-leasing protections in the Beaufort Sea for bowhead whales to the infamous jet. But his biggest problem was his negotiation of a gas pipeline contract that most citizens, conservatives, moderates and liberals, saw as an appalling giveaway to the big three oil companies. It would not only give away billions of dollars in state subsidies but also surrender important state powers that are enshrined in the constitution to protect the public interest. It was just a no-way thing. Almost all members of the Republican-controlled legislature hate it, for example.
      I do have to give Murkowski credit for losing gracefully, unlike some.  

      •  There is a whole host of reasons... (0+ / 0-)

        Also during his term they (Gov. and Repub. legislature) overturned the Campaign Finance rules changes that had previously been implemented...without taking it to the public...

        Initiative 1 on the ballot yesterday returned the Campaign Finance rules, By a STRONG lead...Last time I looked it was something like 75%(for) to 25...I think Alaskans are READY for a change...sick of being treated like this is some playground for big oil to do with as they wish...

        The Gas Pipeline deal they negotiated was like something you would see in a politically unstable part of the world...locked in rates for something like 40 years.

        And of course we have also had our own Diebold problems up here too!

        •  Alaskan's ready for a change? (0+ / 0-)

          "sick of being treated like this is some playground for big oil to do with as they wish..."

          I wouldn't go quite that far. BIG OIL owns this place. If it weren't for them we would be paying income tax. As the bumper sticker says, "Dear god, give us another pipeline, we promise not to piss this on away".

          Palin won't be a change. She will be more of the same should she get elected. And she will push to move the capital from Juneau to the Interior. Big issue here.

          The great tragedy of Science, the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact. T. H. Huxley

          by realalaskan on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 01:12:04 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  Murkowski was Just a Poor Governor (0+ / 0-)

      Ideology had little to do with the loss. Murkowski tried run the Governor's office like he handled his Senate seat. No consensus building. Lisa's appointment, the jet, longiveity bonus, community revenue sharing, corruption and good old boy politics turned people off. He is totally arrogant and not afraid to show it.

      We worked hard on the Knowles compaign for Senate and Ulmer's bid for Governor. Palin sparked a real sense of outrage built up in her party over politics as usual. Her fight with Murkowski while on the Oil and Gas Commission played well with people. I think Knowles has his work cut out for him in this race. Especially with the former Governor's track record on the gasline.

  •  Well, Murkowski's defeat shows that moderates are (2+ / 0-)
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    Sister Havana, Rumour95

    no longer welcome in the Republican party. Murkowski's defeat will send a signal to the Soviets that we no longer care about defending America and they might as well just come on over the Bearing Strait. Oh, wait...

    If your name was George Walker instead of George Walker Bush, your candidacy would be a joke.

    by dole4pineapple on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 10:07:22 AM PDT

  •  when will the gov blame Kos for his loss? (0+ / 0-)

    that seems to be the "in" thing now.

    In the United States, doing good has come to be, like patriotism, a favorite device of persons with something to sell. - Mencken

    by agnostic on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 11:30:37 AM PDT

  •  MURKOWSKI (0+ / 0-)

    THE AX IS SLOWLY FALLING ON THE HEADS OF THE REPUBS. CAN WE HOPE THAT AK WILL BREAK UP THE MURKOWSKI DYNASTY AND RETURN SEN MURKOWSKI TO AN ICE FLOE WHERE FATHER AND DAUGHTER CAN BE SEEN AND NOT HEARD! THERE IS HOPE FOR US ALL COME NOV. 06 AND NOV 08!

  •  Now we need to get Diane Benson Elected! (0+ / 0-)

    Don Young, the (R) "Representative FOR LIFE" hasn't hardly lifted a finger in the campaign season so far, he hardly ever does, he just assumes that he has it in the bag already...Diane Benson won the Dem. Primary Yesterday...she is (IMO) A STRONG DEMOCRATIC candidate who will Face Don in the NOVEMBER election.  
    Here's quick sound bite from last night: " I want to return sanity and humanity to government"

    Check out her web site: www.bensonforcongress.com

    She is strongly against the Iraq occupation...and strongly Pro-Veterans...her own son lost both legs below the knees during his extended deployment to Iraq...and she got to see first hand the troops returning from Iraq.

    Give it some thought and let me know what we can do to get this Red State flipped over to Blue!!!

    •  AK Congress (1+ / 0-)
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      Rumour95

      Don Young, the (R) "Representative FOR LIFE" hasn't hardly lifted a finger in the campaign season so far...

      Your double negative is appropriate, because Don Young has been campaigning lately, which is strange. He's got radio ads and signs on buses -- despite being unopposed in the primary and with 100% name recognition.

      Not that he feels threatened, I'm sure. It's just that he's got all these legal bribes (wink, wink) that he's got to spend. Really. Don Young spent more last year, with no serious opponent, than he did the last time he faced a significant challenger. It's a nationwide paradox: why do members of Congress shill for donations when, especially in the House, their incumbency is all but guaranteed??

      •  Thanks for the update (0+ / 0-)

        I haven't checked up on the Don-ster lately...I just haven't seen much by way of the normal (TV, yard signs etc.) campaign materials.  Do you think its possible to unseat him this time around?  He has been somewhat implicated in the Abramoff mess, but I haven't seen or heard much about Rep. Young when it comes to that issue.

  •  Murkowski and Marijuana (0+ / 0-)

    Gov. Murkowski made the criminalization of the use and possession of marijuana a cornerstone of his agenda. That probably played a big part in his defeat.

    He managed to get his criminalization bill through the Alaska legislature, only to be struck down by the Court. Murkowski didn't like the Alaska's Constitutional protection of privacy rights.

    Democrats might want to pick up on this theme of personal privacy. Whether they use marijuana recreationally or medically as an issue would depend on how their particular state is trending on this issue.

    Some states are promoting the legalization of industrial hemp, notably California and North Dakota.

    The federal government's Drug Enforcement Administration is still claiming hemp to be a dangerous drug.

  •  Ah ha ha: 'Incumbents for Entitlement' (0+ / 0-)

    Very Funny.  Thanks for the chuckle.

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