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As published on Slashdot, in their "Almighty Buck" and "Internet" sections,
Ergasiophobia writes
"It seems the National Cable & Telecommunications Association is spreading a blatant lie in the form of a commercial claiming that the net neutrality act will cost the consumer more and that it is "bad" for the consumer. This of course ignoring how much the cable companies will profit from the act not passing. For some truthful information on the net neutrality act check out"
This honestly seems too stupid to actually be real. Anyone know for sure?

Nerds are mumbling about the jumbo scam being run on Americans in their name.

"Net Neutrality" started as an empty buzzword, meaning the current open state of Internet, threatened by giant ISPs in many ways unique to their vested interests. If it remained just some backroom horsetrading among congressmembers, deleting/inserting clauses here and there, attaching totally unrelated riders, appendices and codicils to "must pass" bills, giant ISPs would have gotten their wishlist from their "partner" legislators.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the Senate - "Net Neutrality" wound up in Internet forums. Now the public has surprised the geeks and the wonks, finding an interest in an issue not only esoteric and technical, but not even fully formed. Many in the public realize that "Net Neutrality" is the Internet we have already, that we have a right to have, that we got right the first time. That we make the laws to protect our rights, not to rip us off.

We've had the Internet long enough that we're starting to understand intuitively some of its basic technical benefits, like open end-to-end universal access regardless of content or endpoints. Like we understand after a century of driving cars that we can't have ones with the hood welded shut, or requiring one specific brand of gas, or limited to the car company's private roads. Chatting with the geeks on these issues is good for all of us, like swapping the truth about the pleasures of octane and convertibles.

Originally posted to DocGonzo on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 08:00 AM PDT.

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  •  Thanks for the diary... (1+ / 0-)
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    this is important stuff!

    Imagination is more important than knowledge - Einstein

    by One Pissed Off Liberal on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 08:08:25 AM PDT

  •  watch out (1+ / 0-)
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    Slashdot has a lot of corporate writers/contributors in ther rooster.

    Slashdot IS NOT what slashdot what used to be 3-4 years ago. They are paid for media now.  (hence why you never see Linux related news anymore. Almost all slashdot news are news that doesn't matter and news to consume)

    •  What are you talking about (1+ / 0-)
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      Rita in DC
      I subscribe to the slashdot linux feed. It's one of the more frequently updated feeds on the site.

      My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. Sen Carl Schurz

      by Bill Rehm on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 12:46:17 PM PDT

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    •  Watching It (1+ / 0-)
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      Rita in DC

      While there is a Slashdot grumblemill about astroturf, Slashdot is far from "corporate media". There are certainly astroturfers and other paid PR people among Slashdot's readers, but of course they're part of the human community, too.

      Slashdot publishes at least about a story or two a day in its Linux section. Linux is extremely overrepresented in Slashdot coverage compared to the "home OS" of its readers, so it's a perfectly bad example of "corporate writers/contributors".

      Slashdot is different from 3-4 years ago. It's probably the biggest noncorporate blog now, bigger than most corporate "news" websites. And its scope is much larger - while still publishing about 2x as much Linux stories, for example. And politically it's much more sophisticated, much more productive a place to discuss Your Rights Online now than back then. And for pure politics, there's no comparison.

      Besides, Slashdot changes with its users as it changes with the times. You don't like it, do something about it.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 01:39:05 PM PDT

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      • is bigger (0+ / 0-)

        no, but seriously, Slashdot content is far more slanted toward corporations/authority compared to early days.

        This on top of being abandoned en masse by people that matter in the Linux community sometimes ago. What's up with that?

        My most serious problem with Slashdot. It starts to have a LOT of news that doesn't defend the little guys. (Maybe I am just overly sensitive, but back in the early days, posting that mambo-jambo entry bound to explode the internet with plenty of hot grits to spill. But now... ? no analysis, no nothing. I bet it'll show up again, taking privacy lightly. Then there was taking Patriot act..etc)

        What is this? slashdot the facist version? it's lurking to the right by way of corporatism.

        •  Big Enough (0+ / 0-)

          I'm not sure what you mean. The Slashdot story doesn't actually say Net Neutrality is mumbo jumbo. It says that corporate execs are calling it that. Exposing that corporate putdown to public criticism.

          Sure Slashdot's new big readership is more noise than signal. Just like any successful geek publication that catches on in wider society. But there's also a lot of news about "big guys" that is news for nerds. Their bigger scope includes quite a lot of "advocacy" (in exposure) against oppression of the "little guy", even though that isn't necessarily part of their mission (though nerds are mainly little guys).

          On what do you base your contention that Slashdot is "lurking" (leaning?) to the right, corporatist?

          Even if it is, that's even more reason for DKos to engage and influence the influential Slashdot community.

          "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

          by DocGonzo on Mon Sep 04, 2006 at 08:36:07 AM PDT

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  •  Professiona network geeks 'get' Net Neutrality (0+ / 0-)

    I mean, they understand what is meant by the term, that it has been a core operating princple of all networks (including the Internet) from the outset, and the implications of prioritizing packets based on the ability of the "sender" to pay.

    They also understand that the only "new regulations" being sought are those promoted by the corporations who want legal justification for violating that pre-existing principle in order to make more money.

    And they don't like it much.

    However, not all professional network folk can be expected to be non-partisan.  Those who work for major corporations and are genuinely loyal to their employers may well see this as a good thing for them.  Those of us who are independent, and especially those who understand the potentially devastating consequences to small businesses and enterpreneurs are dead set against doing away with Net Neutrality.

    Private life is all about managing pain. In business and government, this means externalizing and deferring costs whenever possible.

    by sxwarren on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 09:00:55 AM PDT

  •  Slashdot (0+ / 0-)

    Slashdot is, politically, an extremely naive place ...  I keep thinking that, someday, that community will mature and understand that they "government regulation" that they hate is the only thing that will preserve the "net neutrality" that they love.

    Such a collective revelation will probably cause the whole place to super-nova, though.

    I think in the end, Slashdot-ers probably hate "government" more than they love "freedom" and will continue to operate as foot soldiers for the Bush agenda, as far as their "libertarianism" is concerned.

    "Libertarianism" is the political philosophy of Third World countries.

    by bink on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 09:11:07 AM PDT

    •  I'm confused (2+ / 0-)
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      FLDemJax, DocGonzo

      First, making a generalization about Slashdot as if it were one entity would be a lot like making a generalization about DailyKos as if it were one entity. Slashdot is a community.

      But, I don't believe the article cited says that net neutrality is mumbo jumbo. I think it is an article about how cable companies are saying that net neutrality is mumbo jumbo. I'm guessing most Slashdot readers support net neutrality.

    •  Communities that Play Together Stay Together (1+ / 0-)
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      That's one reason I work to converge DKos and Slashdot. Naive though it is, Slashdot's community is full of young, educated little technocrats, and very international. Exposure to less technical, more political people will grow Slashdot's own political attitude. It's going to be someone setting the example sometime - it should be DKos or another group for everyone's benefit (except Bush ;).

      Another reason is "new blood" in DKos. Slashdotters are generally young and diverse, and reflect the flotsam and jetsam of political "thought", from low to high. Engagement with them by experienced adults influences them, but it also influences us. We sharpen our arguements and persuasions, but we also get unexpected new viewpoints "out of the mouths of babes". And new hope, as often less cynical people get turned on and activated. While educating us about technical issues, and personal experiences with them, that will increasingly impact on our freedom.

      I've watched (not silently) for years as Slashdot's collective politics has moved from righty "libertarianism"  to more of a "social democrat"/libertarian bent retaining an undercurrent of anarchism among the deeply nerdy and posers. That's a lot like DKos, and therefore a future Democratic Party. More steady effort to converge will pay off bigtime, in the communities, the politics and the issues.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 11:51:36 AM PDT

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  •  Hey Doc (0+ / 0-)

    Did you read that article closely? The author is saying that the TelCos are serving up mumbo jumbo. Not that net neutrality is mumbo jumbo.

    My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. Sen Carl Schurz

    by Bill Rehm on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 12:49:12 PM PDT

    •  I RTFA ;) (0+ / 0-)

      Yes, I know. My form for this "As Published on Slashdot" series is to reproduce the Slashdot title whenever possible (at all intelligible to DKos readers), quote their summary (including links) and link to the Slashdot discussion. Then I add commentary in the Extended diary.

      My main goal is to converge Slashdot and DKos communities. I add my own editorial, to vent and give  an example of a "converged" SlashKos participator. Your insight into the article is a good example of that process at work. Though apparently you're already a great example. Maybe I'm just preaching to the choir, but I want everyone singing from the same hymnal, if to our own rhythms.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Sun Sep 03, 2006 at 01:43:58 PM PDT

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  •  IFRAME TEST (0+ / 0-)

    <IFRAME SRC="" WIDTH="100%">libel definition</IFRAME>
    <IFRAME SRC="" WIDTH="100%">slander definition</IFRAME>

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 01:31:34 PM PDT

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