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What Fate Awaits NSA Spying Whistleblower

Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:02:58 AM PDT

Can there be any doubt that if the White House finds out who leaked the story of its illegal spying, fierce retribution will follow?  

Another way of asking that question is: Should auld acquaintance be forgot and never brought to mind?

Remember what happened to Ambassador Joseph Wilson?  The White House leaked to the media his wife's identity as an undercover agent for the CIA, putting her life and those of her colleagues in danger and ending her career.

And let us recall what became of General Eric Shinseki, Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army, who dared to accurately predict how many troops would be needed to occupy Iraq.  Defense Department officials leaked the name of his replacement 14 months before his retirement, rendering him a lame duck commander and embarrassing and neutralizing the Army's top officer.

We should also bring back to mind the fate of Major General John Riggs.  He told the Baltimore Sun that the Army needed at least another 10,000 soldiers because it was being stretched too thin between Iraq and Afghanistan.  General George W. Casey told Riggs to "stay in your lane" and not discuss the troops.  Riggs
retired and was denied his full rank, officially for "minor infractions."

Does anyone remember Army Spc. Thomas Wilson, a 31-year-old member of a Tennessee National Guard unit?  After asking Donald Rumsfeld why vehicle armor was still scarce nearly two years after the start of the war, Wilson was trashed as an insubordinate plant of the "liberal media."

We can't forget former Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill.  He was punished twice by the Bush Administration, once for opposing Bush's tax policy, for which he was forced to resign in January 2003, and later for providing a first hand account of the Administration's decision-making process in the lead up to the Iraq war.  The Administration sought to discredit him by launching an investigation into his use of classified documents and whether he shared them with 60 Minutes in his interviews.  The investigation did not uncover any improprieties.  The White House also sought to discredit O'Neill through numerous anonymous comments in the press.

Let's remember former senior White House economic adviser Larry Lindsey.  Mr. Lindsey angered the White House in September 2002 when he made a prescient prediction that a war with Iraq would cost between $100 billion and $200 billion, an estimate Administration officials at the time insisted was too high. In December 2002, the White House requested that Lindsey resign from his post.

And we should keep in mind the smear campaign against Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism czar who published a book recounting how the Bush Administration had been fixated on invading Iraq.  Dan Bartlett, White House communications director, dismissed Clarke's accounts as "politically motivated," "reckless," and "baseless."  Scott McClellan, President Bush's spokesman, portrayed Clarke as a disgruntled former employee: "Mr. Clarke has been out there talking about what title he had . . . He wanted to be the deputy secretary of the Homeland Security Department after it was created. The fact of the matter is, just a few months after that, he left the administration. He did not get that position.  Someone else was appointed."  National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice alleged that: "Dick Clarke just does not know what he is talking about. He wasn't involved in most of the meetings of the Administration."  Vice President Cheney stated that Clarke "wasn't in the loop, frankly, on a lot of this stuff . . . It was as though he clearly missed a lot of what was going on."

The media ate that stuff up, but it was pretty tame compared to the attacks on Gold Star mother Cindy Sheehan, who managed to find a voice in the media for expressing opposition to the war.  Fred Barnes of Fox News labeled Sheehan a "crackpot."  Conservative blogs then started talking about Sheehan's divorce, her angry Republican in-laws, her supposed political flip-flops, her incendiary sloganeering and her association with known ticket-stub-carrying attendees of Fahrenheit 9/11.  Rush Limbaugh said her "story is nothing more than forged documents - there's nothing about it that's real.  Bush himself declared Cindy unrepresentative of most military families he meets, and labeled anti-war protestors as dangerous isolationists who embolden terrorists.

And what about members of the media who reported unpleasant truths?  Well, let's bear in mind the tale of Jeffrey Kofman, an ABC reporter.  On July 15, 2003, one week after Donald Rumsfeld told certain troops they would be going home, Kofman covered a story in which American soldiers in Falluja described low moral in Iraq and spoke angrily of how their tour of duty had been extended yet again.  The White House retaliated, using Matt Drudge.  His Drudge Report website posted the headline: "ABC News Reporter Who Filed Troops Complaint Story -- Openly Gay Canadian."  When asked about the story, Drudge pointed to the White House as his source.

And then there's Jose Bustani, a Brazilian diplomat and former director of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which oversees the destruction of two million chemical weapons and two-thirds of the world's chemical weapon facilities.  The Bush Administration attacked and ultimately ousted him for failing to cooperate with the Administration's decision to attack Iraq.

The Bush Administration also sought to undermine the IAEA and its Director General Mohammed ElBaradei as retribution for revealing the Niger documents (allegedly evidence of an Iraqi nuclear program) to be forgeries.  Cheney denounced the IAEA on television, and the White House made a push to oust ElBaradei from the agency.  The Administration's retaliation campaign included a complete halt of intelligence-sharing with the agency, recruitment of potential replacements and eavesdropping on his calls in search of ammunition to use against ElBaradei and the IAEA.

There are so many people to remember, but let's not leave out Bunnatine Greenhouse, the chief contracting officer at the Army Corps of Engineers.  In October 2004, Ms. Greenhouse came forward and revealed that top Pentagon officials had shown improper favoritism to Halliburton when awarding military contracts.  Greenhouse stated that when the Pentagon awarded Halliburton a five-year $7 billion contract, it pressured her to withdraw her objections, actions which she claimed were unprecedented in her experience.  The Army demoted Ms. Greenhouse, removing her from the elite Senior Executive Service and transferring her to a lesser job in the corps' civil works division.

The Bush Administration also undermined and used the CIA and its analysts as a scapegoat for its own failings.  Among other things, the White House blamed the CIA and George Tenet for the Niger reference in the State of the Union address after the CIA had sought to modify, if not delete, the reference.  Tenet was gone by early 2004.

The Bush Administration also retaliated against two officials who sought to provide accurate information regarding the Administration's inappropriate reliance on the Iraqi defector known as "Curveball" and his alleged statements regarding mobile chemical weapons laboratories.  The first is "Jerry," who led a CIA unit that went to Iraq and found Curveball's claims to be blatantly false and misleading.  After he did so, he was chastised and transferred.  According to The Los Angeles Times:  "Back home . . . Jerry was 'read the riot act' and accused of 'making waves' by his office director, according to the presidential commission.  He and his colleague ultimately were transferred out of the weapons center."

Another victim was David Kay, head of the Iraq Survey Group, which found the Bush Administration's WMD claims to be inaccurate, including its reliance on Curveball.  "In December 2003," according to the LA Times, "Kay flew back to C.I.A. headquarters. He said he told Tenet that Curveball was a liar and he was convinced Iraq had no mobile labs or other illicit weapons.  C.I.A. officials confirm their exchange. Kay said he was assigned to a windowless office without a working telephone.  On Jan. 20, 2004, Bush lauded Kay and the Iraq Survey Group in his State of the Union Speech for finding 'weapons of mass destruction-related program activities. . . . Had we failed to act, the dictator's weapons of mass destruction program would continue to this day.'  Kay quit three days later and went public with his concerns."

In spring 2001, according to the New York Times, an informant told the CIA that Iraq had abandoned a major element of its nuclear weapons program.  However, according to a CIA officer, the agency did not share the information with other agencies or with senior policy makers.  The officer, an employee for the agency for more than 20 years, including several years in intelligence related to illicit weapons, was fired in 2004.  In his lawsuit, the officer states that his dismissal was punishment for his reports questioning the agency's assumptions on a series of weapons-related matters and with the agency's intelligence conclusions.

Each of these cases of retribution for truth-telling is discussed and documented in Congressman John Conyers' report, "The Constitution in Crisis; The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution, and Coverups in the Iraq War."  See pages 113 - 133.

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  •  to paraphrae a Beatles song (4.00 / 2)

    "S/he's got a ticket to Uzbek"

    Rome wasn't burnt in a day.

    by Miss Devore on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:02:41 AM PDT

  •  Wow good/Bad stuff! (4.00 / 3)

    Nice job.
     I'm gonna send this diary around.
     Like a nice little slap in the face. Hey you! Wake up.

    Looking for Good Reason

    by Clzwld on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:16:38 AM PDT

    •  Yes, a great diary (none / 0)

      This is an excellent summary of the vicious political payback that this administration engages in, to keep their troops in line. It is also helps explain why the NSA warrant-less search scandal is so huge. With the mindset on display with this list, how can we not believe that domestic spying hasn't been used againstf their political enemies (us!). What a perfect tool for the burgeoning 'Police State' we live in.
  •  How can we get the majority (4.00 / 3)

    of Americans to refuse to accept the Bush Administration's poorly constructed rationale for spying? For violating the US Constitution?

    We can do so by having more people do what this diary writer has done - set forth the many ways the Administration has crossed the line - let the people come to their own conclusion about the risk of allowing such people unbridled power.

    "Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph." (T. Paine)

    by dmmteacher on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:18:45 AM PDT

    •  people don't like snooping (none / 0)

      Ask William Saffire, who was bugged for months. And he is a hardcorps conservative.

      Overthrow the Government ~Vote~

      by missliberties on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 11:23:26 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  keep reminding (none / 0)

      Americans exactly what happened--Bush violated federal law and the Constitution by ordering spying.  He did not get a court warrant, as required by law.  This is illegal.  Keep it snappy (snappier than my way of putting it here) and repeat over and over.  Take a play from Bush/Rove's playbook: repeat, over and over.  The difference between us and them is what we are repeating is true.
    •  We're sadly dependent on the media establishment.. (none / 0)

      And they aren't up to the task.

      As posted elsewhere, everyone really ought to read Chris Lloyd's devastating essay of several days ago, "Last Stand of the New Republic." I diaried it here:

      http://hudson.dailykos.com

      Lloyd has issued a brilliant and truly alarming wake-up call.

      "Animals are my friends. And I don't eat my friends." -- George Bernard Shaw

      by Hudson on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:30:53 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  doesn't have to be media establishment (none / 0)

        I don't expect Chris Matthews, Wolf Blitzer or even Jim Lehrer (who I respect, at least) to "do the right thing" here.  I think Dems who go on these shows need to do a better job--I thought Dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer did not ram the point home--the president broke the law, the law is clear, this is a constitutional crisis.  Maybe Murtha can step forward again on this one...
  •  media members (4.00 / 4)

    Let us not forget Dan Rather.
    •  And Mary Mapes. (4.00 / 2)

      Read her book.

      (¯`*._(¯`*._(-IMPEACH-)_.*´¯)_.*´¯) It's not too late!

      by nehark on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:32:23 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  and Murtha (4.00 / 3)

      they called him a coward, questioned his patriotism when he made his courageous call for "redployment" within 6 months.

      If George Washington came back to life and took a position opposed to the administration, they'd start a smear campaign against him.  It is straight out of Orwell's Animal Farm.

    •  Can A Journalist Find Out If He's Been Spied On? (none / 0)

      Let's say, for example, Walter Pincus wants to seem if the NSA has been keeping tabs on him.  Could he use the Freedom Of Information Act  to get records?  Anyone know?  Because if a journalist could, it would make a helluva scandal, wouldn't it.
      •  He'd have to sue. (none / 0)

        He could certainly file a FOIA request; the NSA would turn him down for "national security reasons," and he'd have to sue the NSA and make them justify their national security exception.

        The best tack for this is, if we can find out exactly what it is the NSA's been monitoring (i.e., inbound international phone calls), to file a massive class action Bivens suit, with people who have family members living abroad and who look like anything but Al Qaeda members as the representative plaintiffs.

        My wife, for instance, who talks to her mother in Moldova every week, would be perfect.

        "There is nothing false about hope." -- Barack Obama

        by DC Pol Sci on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 03:48:51 PM PDT

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  •  I've been thinking about this (4.00 / 14)

    ever since the story broke. I truly fear for this anonymous patriot, and pray that he or she continues to remain anonymous and safe for as long as necessary.

    The Times better protect this source at least as well as, um - Scooter Libby? They have a lot to make up for.

    And BTW, you neglected to mention Scott Ritter, who, I believe, they accused of child molestation as payback for his work as a weapons inspector?

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

    by sidnora on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:32:57 AM PDT

    •  My thoughts, also (4.00 / 8)

      and the importance of attaching the frame of "whistleblower" to this person early and hard is also crucial.

      Whomever leaked this story will face the same hounding reserved for members of the press -- not the protected coddling for staff members -- of Plamegate. And helping the corporate media frame the discussionn -- particularly with the term whistleblower -- is an essential component of the Kos voice machine now.

      Thanks for this list of shame; an important reminder of the lack of respect this administration has for an open dialogue and for anyone standing in their way.

      "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

      by zic on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:38:26 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  need an "I'm Spartacus" moment (none / 1)

        should it come close to a whistleblower's indentity being revealed by NYT....

        wouldn't it be great if there were a great big giant "I'm Spartacus" moment? with tens or maybe hundreds of government employees standing up and saying 'It was me. I did it."

        I wouldn't mind turning into a vermilion goldfish. --Henri Matisse

        by isis2 on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 01:08:59 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I've a family member (none / 0)

          who resigned a corner-office job in the Pentagon because of stuff going down; at significant financial cost to their pension.

          They've all those lovely clearances, and won't breath a word about stuff. But from the little bits of "atmospheric" things said, what you suggest wouldn't surprise me at all. You know how moral slumps after a bad boss shows up on the job. . .

          "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

          by zic on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 01:16:54 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  i hope... (none / 0)

            ...karma kicks and your relative finds many new opportunities falling in to make up for the loss. it's so impressive and inspiring to hear of someone doing what's most difficult because of their principles. especially with personal and family security on the line.

            also, here's hoping....
            that those who know are trying to do something about this won't have to stand alone.

            I wouldn't mind turning into a vermilion goldfish. --Henri Matisse

            by isis2 on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 01:56:30 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

        •  hmm... (none / 0)

          The Sparticus Project – i like the sound of that.

          "They're telling us something we don't understand"
          General Charles de Gaulle, Mai '68

          by subtropolis on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 03:12:38 PM PDT

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    •  It is not just one person (4.00 / 2)

      there are many. Some might even be in the inner circle.

      I say let them do the investigation. They will uncover their own demise.

      Overthrow the Government ~Vote~

      by missliberties on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 11:24:35 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I wonder (none / 1)

      the NYT held the NSA spying story for at least a year.  Are they claiming that the WH didn't use that time to try to find out who the leaker was?  I find that hard to believe.  Either they never found out who the leaker was (and it seems less likely the further away we get from the event) or they found the leaker and they've already been punished in some way.  I know there has been a lot of high level resignations in the CIA, supposedly from the politicization by the new director, but could it be related to the NSA leak?

      Anyway, I hope the leaker is all lawyered up and protected as best a he/she can be.

      Turn ons: progressives, Democrats with spines Turn offs: conservatives, people named Bush, John McCain

      by Unstable Isotope on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 12:54:46 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Hmmm. (none / 0)

        Interesting idea, but - if the whistleblower's already been punished, what would he or she stand to lose by going public? Do you think there might be actual physical danger? It would be much harder for them to try something like that on a public person.

        Wouldn't it be pretty tricky for the WH to try to conduct a highly-publicized sham "investigation" to find a leaker whose ID they already know? They've never been as good at (cared as much about?) covering their tracks as doing the setup for the dirty work. I think they count on the MSM's laziness and timidity to keep the evidence from the general public once the deed is accomplished. But it always seems that  the trail is out there to be followed, by those who care.

        And remember - it took a special prosecutor years to find out who leaked Valerie Plame's name (snark)!

        The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

        by sidnora on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 02:16:54 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Scott Ritter has a book out (none / 1)

        He was on I think Washington Journal/C-Span and was looking good and looking you straight in the eye while he spoke truth to power. And told about his new book "Iraq Confidential". Here's a
      link to a transcript of a talk between Seymour Hersch and Scott Ritter, at the Nation website.

      On C-Span he said he was now working as a fireman in upstate NY. Marine, fireman, weapons inspector,  when does he get his Medal of Freedom?! My friggin hero for sure!
      ----
       Other heroes of ours:

      Sibel Edmonds is working for reform for more whistleblower legal cover.
      ---
         Coleen Rowley is running for Congress in Minnesota. She's the FBI whistleblower. The Moussaoui case she was involved in is entwined in the FISA laws and NSA. Wouldn't it be just super nifty keen if Beezlebubba had a bunch of bad people get cut loose by the courts because of his sacrifice of our security apparatus for his own vile political and commercial spying?  What a ...a... bad person. I can't even cuss anymore!
      ----
         There is  ex-NSA Analyst Russ Tice that wants to TALK.
          Here's a link to my comment about him and what needs to be done with the Patriot Act in the Coleen Rowley diary.
         Here's another link to a comment that added to mine, also about Russ Tice.
          From that one a good link to an Russ Tice update with some other really good links as of 12/23/05.
      ---
          On a C-span or maybe Puffball there was  talk that there were 24 more whistleblowers wanting to come out at the NSA but there was no place to go. Dammit I can't remember who it was...maybe James Bamford, paired with Victoria Toensing reccch...
      ----
          A commentor here had a good idea of how we can help with some cover fire, here in our tin foil covered , days of the week PJ's.
      These people are real courage in action, up against the worst people we've ever had in government.
           Anybody feel like apologizing for that Nazi reference now?
      Good Diary, a really good collection of good people doing what they had to do.
           One of the reasons this blog helps is that there are people in govt. who may read something here and see the germ of a good idea or strategy and positive change may result. In this diary and topic, there have been people who'v commented that indicate they are here because they are worried about their govt. job and are staying  in touch. And you know there are many more readers that don't post, oh alright lurkers ( I resemble that remark) and that they are doing the math. This has gotta be a scary time to be a good person in govt.
          To those people we here offer you best wishes and support, and hope something here helps.
       

      •  thanks for the Hersh/Ritter link (none / 0)

        I hadn't seen that.

        "They're telling us something we don't understand"
        General Charles de Gaulle, Mai '68

        by subtropolis on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 02:24:48 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  If the spying started within days of 9/11 (none / 0)

        Richard Clarke would have still been on the job. I haven't read his book; does what he already said add any context to this debate, knowing, as we now do, that this was going on?

        "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

        by zic on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 03:32:36 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  trust (none / 0)

          within days they were paying John Yoo to write opinions they wanted to hear.
          within days they were NO WAY interested in Richard Clarke...   remember he had sent Condi and Bush distressing news before 9/11 that bin Laden wanted to attack in US.  THAT/he was not what they wanted to hear after 9/11
          Clarke was out of the loop,  way out of the NSA loop.
      •  Ritter book is good (none / 0)

        Very factual and detailed. AS early as 1991 or 1992 he was presenting info to US govt that the govt didn't like.

        After a few years he came to the realization that the US only wanted inspections to go on forever - if they ended sanctions would end too, and our govt didn't want that.

        All three administrations - Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush 2 - look bad.

        An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

        by mightymouse on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 06:20:37 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  really (none / 0)

        Wouldn't it be just super nifty keen if Beezlebubba had a bunch of bad people get cut loose by the courts because of his sacrifice of our security apparatus for his own vile political and commercial spying?

        Funny. Bad people like that should be working at McDonald's or something, can you imagine anyone doing the dirty work for Dick Cheney?

        Or did you mean Bush?

  •  don't feel too sorry for him/her... (3.00 / 3)

    this person was undoubtedly up to his or her ears in shaping various torture policies and/or policies related to the patriot act, and probably got scared that his/her ass would be in a sling if word of this slipped out. it is very very hard to find a leaker of this kind actually so chances are that the former bush butt boy/girl will be safe in a sinecure/think tank for the foreseeable future.
    •  How can you say that? (4.00 / 5)

      You don't know the person, don't know the source's motives or fears.

      I'm sorry, but this is a comment based on liberal bias, the same kind of platitude used by the right to shut down opposing views and stop debate and discussion.

      I don't think hero status is called for here, but vilain isn't called for, either. At least not until we know what really happened.

      "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

      by zic on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:44:01 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Who Are The Whistleblowers? (none / 0)

        Nearly a dozen current and former officials, who were granted anonymity because of the classified nature of the program, discussed it with reporters for The New York Times because of their concerns about the operation's legality and oversight.Bush Lets US Spy on Callers Without Courts; NYT Dec 16, 2005

        The operation was illegal, and now we have oversight.

        "It's entertainment until somebody is attacked," Spocko said.

        by suskind on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 03:44:04 PM PDT

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        •  They already FIRED one whistleblower (none / 0)

          Having just read through upwards of 83 comments, I am floored no one mentioned Fired NSA whistleblower RUSS TICE.  

          Oh, and he is BEGGING congress to let him tell what he knows!

          Here's what they did to this guy:

          In June, 2003, the agency suspended his security clearances and ordered him to maintain the agency's vehicles by pumping gas and cleaning them. Last month, they ordered him to unload furniture at its warehouses....

          an NSA security officer ordered him to report for "a psychological evaluation" even though he had just gone through one nine months earlier...

          The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia, according to Tice. "He did this even though he admitted that I did not show any of the normal indications of someone suffering from paranoia," Tice wrote in a statement to the inspector general.

          "I knew my from that day that my career was over," said Tice.

          Found to be a "psychotic paranoiac" in spring/summer 2003.  Actually FIRED in April 2005!!  So, the NSA let a "psychotic paranoiac" keep working for them for about two years before getting around to firing the crazy bastard???

          What a strange, dark world we live in.

    •  How could you kow this? (4.00 / 5)

      the person could have just as well have been there fighting for better ways and getting shot down. Or simply stayed because he/she knew the best thing possible was to stay and leak.

      Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

      by Earl on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:36:35 AM PDT

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    •  You don't even know (4.00 / 4)

      how the information came to the Times reporters. They could have followed the source and did a bang up investigative job and blackmailed the information out of sources. You have no idea how or why or even what all they uncovered. Your speculation is based on bias, not fact. Bias is a two way street that conservatives do not have a monopoly on.

      You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war..... Albert Einstein,

      by tazz on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:51:49 AM PDT

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    •  that's ridiculous (4.00 / 2)

      The information the whistleblower provided to the NYT was about the NSA being used illegally by the present administration to monitor domestic communications. It has nothing to do with torture and whatnot. At least get your facts straight before you begin with speculation.

      More likely, this person is an analyst, working on perfectly normal NSA activities, who did the patriotic thing when confronted with obviously illegal and "unAmerican" activities.

      "They're telling us something we don't understand"
      General Charles de Gaulle, Mai '68

      by subtropolis on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 02:44:58 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Could also have been (none / 0)

        a civilian secretary, a file clerk, an office-manager with knowlege simply from being in the workplace.

        "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

        by zic on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 03:34:22 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  The NSA doesn't shape policy (none / 0)

      Sorry, the NSA doesn't shape policy. The leaker is probably a rank-and-file employee who was disgusted about what happening to their country. Besides the NSA listens in on phone conversations, it doesn't interrogate people. Haven't you been paying attention to what is going on here? You assume that everyone who works for the intelligence community is a sadistic monster which is not true.  Yes, I rated you a one.
    •  you don't know what you're talking about (none / 0)


      "....this person was undoubtedly up to his or her ears in shaping various torture policies..."  No, that's just plain wrong.  

      NSA does signals intelligence (SIGINT), not human intelligence (HUMINT).  SIGINT is concerned primarily with interception and analysis of electronic communications.

      Anyone who knows anything about intel knows this.  Please get your facts right.  

    •  chronology (none / 0)

      checking timelines, the whistle blower may have been a new hire
  •  does anyone (none / 0)

    doubt that the Busheviki have long since indentified and retaliated against these civil servants? there cannot be too many people who would have access to this information, the NYT Keller & Sulzberger gave this crowd a year to go to work.

    who are we kidding?

    •  Right. (none / 0)

      This is more a ploy so they can stonewall any questions with "We can't talk about an ongoing investigation."

      (¯`*._(¯`*._(-IMPEACH-)_.*´¯)_.*´¯) It's not too late!

      by nehark on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:34:21 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  A ploy to be EXPOSED: (4.00 / 6)

        NOTHING is more important right now that getting the tables turned on BushCo on this.

        Here's the universal response. Rinse and repeat.

        "Since George Bush knew about this disclosure for a year, he is either incompetent at keeping the nation's secrets safe, or he is abusing the Department of Justice for political gain.

        Which is it Mr. President?"

  •  Anybody want a cup (4.00 / 5)

    of boiling blood? I've got plenty, after reading that.

    Good list, DS. And if I could whisper in the ear of the leaker I'd say, "Hey, you wanna go down in history--the right way?"

    Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

    by Earl on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:45:05 AM PDT

    •  As in (4.00 / 4)

      Come out now. Go public. Raise your head high. You're a hero in my eyes.

      Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

      by Earl on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:46:30 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Gotcha, but... (none / 1)

        ...I think that would be an even more dangerous thing to do.  This person likely knows the details of the program, as well...how it operated, who in particular was being spied upon and such. Let him/her continue with the leaking under cover, without risk of being directly attacked.

        Thank you, Howard Dean

        by dharmafarmer on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:54:52 AM PDT

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        •  So come out now (none / 1)

          Then the investigation stops. The leaker(s) still knows what they know and can unload it to a journalist before they come out.

          Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

          by Earl on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:40:18 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  According to Richard Posner, (4.00 / 2)

            despite the promise of retribution, that's a foregone conclusion
            The only valid ground for forbidding human inspection of such data is fear that they might be used to blackmail or otherwise intimidate the administration's political enemies. That danger is more remote than at any previous period of U.S. history. Because of increased political partisanship, advances in communications technology and more numerous and competitive media, American government has become a sieve. No secrets concerning matters that would interest the public can be kept for long.

            and, consequently, Bush would NEVER abuse his power to use taps for political purposes.  Nosiree.

          •  There are a couple reasons for my stance. (4.00 / 3)

            Our greatest hope, thusfar, of dismantling this administration lies with this issue of domestic spying.  The administration knows the stakes - that's why they've instigated an investigation not to determine the legality of their actions, but to "find the leaker."  

            You can see, from the examples David Swanson cited, that whistleblower protection is farcical.  The outspoken are defamed, removed, marginalized and castigated.  Because of the way the WH investigation is framed, I wonder if this time they might even charge treason.  This is a brave soul, indeed, who has decided to talk about domestic spying.  While he/she/they have cover, retribution can't occur and he/she/they remains in a position to controvert any sham reasonings the admin might advance.

            I'd like to say "well done" to this person(s), as well...but the job is not yet completed.  Perhaps he/she/they is/are still in a position to provide a congressional investigation committee with the details and proof they would need to bring the thugs down.

            Thank you, Howard Dean

            by dharmafarmer on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 12:01:19 PM PDT

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          •  Why should they do this? (none / 0)

            For Dick, obviously, it would be a means of keeping the heat off him.

            On the other hand, if they are allowed to tell ALL they know, the perps can go to prison.

            Doncha think?

      •  I can imagine how (none / 0)

        difficult it is for someone to go public with this type of information.

        It must be simialr to being from Bosnia, and having to tell the entire world you've been tortured.

        I don't know, maybe whistleblowers pass information in a plain brown envelope, or something, to avoid indentification.

        I suppose the administration will do anything it can to avoid any future indictments, ala Scooter.

  •  Tough time for Prosecutor (none / 0)

    Imagine how hard it would be to find a jury of 12 to convict.
  •  Uhmm,,, (none / 0)

    empires don't insult and marginalize. They crucify. Literally.

    At some point moderately soon this leaker and this story will disappear. It'll be easy for us.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:54:12 AM PDT

  •  All available resources have been... (4.00 / 2)

    ...diverted to find the whistleblower. Right now, the focus of this administration is not on helping the Gulf Coast recover, or on the War in Iraq, the economy, bird flu, or even on building a new Berlin wall on the American and Canadian borders --- no, it is on finding this one person. When they do, they will unleash the furies.

    Please don't tell me you feel sorry for Ben. Ben is a well cared for dalmatian and has not been harmed by my political views.

    by Bensdad on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 09:59:01 AM PDT

  •  This particular witchhunt is outrageous. (4.00 / 3)

    The administration attack on the NSA spying scandal whistleblower is laughably lame, given that Scooter Libby is already indicted for the Plame leak. This group could form Leakers Anonymous. I heard on Hardline (yes, ugh, it was Norah O'D) that there were only about a dozen people who could have leaked this to the NYT. Is there any list published of who these folks were, so that we can start speculating on whose head is on the chopping block?

    "It does not require many words to speak the truth." -- Chief Joseph, native American leader (1840-1904)

    by highfive on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:01:01 AM PDT

    •  Norah O'D blink, blink (none / 0)

      thinks there is a short list...  but the program was huge,  and information distributed hugely...  and we think as bits and pieces were passed about, no one mentioned where it had come from???
      blink,  blink
    •  A list of the names? (none / 1)

      Why?

      Why would anyone want a list of the names?

      Isn't the idea to protect the whistleblower(s)?

      Could be hundreds of them, for all Bush knows..

      •  That is an excellent point. (none / 0)

        Kindly forgive me my snoopy moment. I get confused by the convolution of the administration (who make the Good Guy out to the Bad Guy). Then, I feel the need to know who the Good Guy is (in order to protect him), and I blow his whole anonymity. I'm the perfect dupe for the Bush administration.

        "It does not require many words to speak the truth." -- Chief Joseph, native American leader (1840-1904)

        by highfive on Mon Jan 02, 2006 at 08:44:42 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  This diary is important because (4.00 / 5)

    as soon as the leaker is revealed, THEY become the story; and the spying continues unchecked. We need to constantly remind the public what Buchco is doing; how they are sliming people who are uncovering their lies!!!

    Great work-recommended!!!!!!!

    The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama

    by Phil S 33 on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:06:02 AM PDT

  •  ok call me lame (none / 1)

    but do we know yet that it was because of wilson's say that they outed his wife?  or could it be that they wanted that dept shut down so that the dept's findings - among them being that there were no wmd's - was disclosed?  what else was this dept studying?  uncovering?  was it a coincidence that wilson was uncovering his own stuff at the same time her dept was uncovering a load of shit on this admin and the use of "negligent intelligence on wmd"?  did they get lucky with two hits with one?  at this point in history, i wouldn't put it past this admin to be hiding anything/anyone
    •  Three stories re:Plame (4.00 / 2)

        Over time, there have been at least three stories about what Valerie Plame's group was working on, and they are, of course  from people who can't  say who their source is because, surprise, it's a secret. So, maybe yes , maybe no, very likely disinformation to cover and salvedge whatever can be salvedged...

      Brewster-Jennings :

      1.worked in Saudi Arabia in or with or around ARAMCO, the state oil business.

      2. worked in Chechnya and nearby regions in the black market for  loose nukes.
          It was said they had some success but drove the price up and that pressure was upon PNAC and the WHIGS to do something as they were interfering with business. That business being the shadow trade in arms, and probably involve people who 'we' work with to do...whatever, boil people probably.

      3. stopped a shipment of VX gas into Turkey. Hasn't it bothered anybody that the admin. never even 'found' any WMD's? I mean, for all the marbles, you'd think they would at least get that right fer cryin out loud! sheesh.
      ----
        So there you have what little old me has seen offered as to what Brewster-Jennings and Valerie Plame might have been up to. What's the truth? " Who knows?"  And we probably never will.
      ---
          My money is at this point split, I think it was a two-fer for all the reasons we've read here and likely more. The more I see how vindictive these bastids are....

      •  Actually, I think the goal (none / 0)

        was to intimidate, challenge and bump off the CIA.

        You know how Bush and Rove love to bring in their own people, people they can control.

        Especially given the evidence, they have a lot to hide, so they probably thought it was best to have their own group in there.

  •  Whistle-stop magic tricksiness predicted (4.00 / 6)

    BushCo will attempt another superduper triple-inverse upside-down, inside-out shuffling of truth and consequences.  Fans will cheer their leak-hunting, chief-hailing, power-to-the-preznit prestidigitation, while, with their free hands, BushCo will simultaneously attempt to pick every proximate pocket clean and free of remaining whistles.

    But the Year of the Dog begins at the end of the month.  Here's to the whistlers, watchdogs, and other barking-mad noisemakers for truth and justice in 2006.

  •  Medal of freedom (4.00 / 4)

    Needs to be given to the whistleblower and the Justice Dept. needs to put their heads on straight and start investigating Bush and his illegal wiretapping instead of going after the leaker.

    Not only did we beat the British now we have to beat the Bushes.

    by libbie on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:19:54 AM PDT

  •  Asylum? (none / 0)

    Perhaps the whistleblower will attempt to escape prosecution by asking for asylum from Canada.
  •  more new info (4.00 / 4)

    More important new info on the NSA spying has been posted in this diary. Here's an excerpt:

    Information captured by the National Security Agency's secret eavesdropping on communications between the United States and overseas has been passed on to other government agencies, which cross-check the information with tips and information collected in other databases, current and former administration officials said.

  •  The Slime Machine (none / 0)

    will go on overdrive. There's a little problem with the slime machine however. It worked nicely in the early days. The Slime Shooting Howitzer/Wurlitzer cranked up and Richard Clarke and Joe Wilson et. al. got slimed, but their stories didn't die off. Kill the Messenger will work as long as there aren't to many targets? Kill the Messenger becomes less effective as the number of targets increases?

    There are a couple of points that could be put on the Democratic (and libertarian?) scoreboard: (1) Free frame: This domestic spying mess is worse than Nixonian. It's Hoover, and COINTELPRO all over again. It's spying on anyone and everyone who might be a threat, like Quakers and the American Friends Service Committee?
    (2) If the president knew about this leak a year ago, why is he just now calling for an investigation of it. If it were truly a crushing blow to our national security--then why didn't he launch an investigation immediately? It's retaliation pure and simple?

  •  Whistleblower.org seems part of the solution (4.00 / 2)

    http://www.whistleblowers.org/

    Can we trust them with leading the defense of the NSA whistleblower(s) (or scapegoat) when he/she is identified?

    Who else is lining up to defend the this courageous people?

    Dailykos.com; an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action -1.75 -7.23

    by Shockwave on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:49:57 AM PDT

    •  Technically, (4.00 / 2)

      the people who work at NSA and other intelligence agencies are not covered by the "Whistleblower law".   Because of their business, they have their own set of laws and procedures they are supposed to follow.  Of course, if the person committing the violation happens to be your Commander-in-Chief, they would have no other recourse than seek other ways of exposing the situation.

      According to the NYT article, it was a group of people that "leaked" the information.  

      •  See these diaries for more (4.00 / 2)

          Up above I listed some diaries for some other whistleblowers. The problem is worse than you described so well:
        there is no elected civilian oversight as part of the FISA laws as far as I an tell:
             1.There is a FISA court where the 19000 applications have been made.

              2.. These can be appealed to a FISA Court of Review and this was done just once in the history of FISA.  The opinion was out Nov 18, 2002 and it said that they DoJ was too strictly interpreting FISA and it reversed the FISA court ruling on two it had rejected and made about 1800 warrants easier.
             This was spun by theFrightwingers  as breaking down the wall between the FBI and the CIA. Coleen Rowley has a lot to say about that as well, but the Frighteners are basically saying "it's Clinton"s Fault".

           3. The FISA Court of Review is secret and doesn't allow any plaintiffs to argue and only allows friend of the court filings.

            4.George Paine  says that the Court of Review is not appealable to anybody, and James Bamford in a NYT piece printed in the Salt LakeTribune says that the Court of Review can be appealed to a secret meeting of the Supreme Court.  I'd bet on James, but I don't know. Also in this peice a good quote:

        ((( Originally created to spy on foreign adversaries, the NSA was never supposed to be turned inward. Thirty years ago, Sen. Frank Church, the Idaho Democrat who was then chairman of the select committee on intelligence, investigated the agency and came away stunned. "That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people," he said in 1975, "and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide."
           He added that if a dictator ever took over, the NSA "could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back."
        )))

            5. In the Russ Tice diary I linked to in my comment  elsewhere in this diary there are some good comments and good descriptions of the "nowhere to go" problem and this is where I got on my rant about fixing the Patriot Act which is coincidently before us like a nice fat shiner on a hook.

            6. Jason Leopold has an article in the FISA courts and this issue in general. Here's the money shot:
        (((The Senate Judiciary Committee report issued in February 2003 may help explain why President Bush authorized the National Security Agency to spy on Americans without seeking prior approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which for more than two decades has handled domestic spying activities.
        The report singled out the FBI, and said the bureau's agents, whose job it is to obtain the surveillance warrants from the special court to collect intelligence information in the fight against terrorism, were inadequately trained in important aspects of not only the procedures to obtain warrants to spy on Americans under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), "but also fundamental aspects of criminal law.")))
           So, what kind of wall is that again? You know , the wall between the CIA and the FBI. I smell 4year old SPIN! Oh yeah, it's Clinton's Fault". Maybe it's Pink Floyd's.

        ---
           You pointed out in the NYT  that "it was a group of people" that "leaked" the story. This maybe what James Bamford ( I think it was him) was taking about on TV last week when he said there was 24 people who were trying to find a safe way to blow the whistle on the activities that they weren't wanting to go to jail for.
             Again with the  "fix the Patriot Act NOW because we need elected civilian oversight of the FISA courts and the CIFA. "- CIFA's the Dept of Def spy network, also diaried here at Dkos, also secret, also no oversight ipso friggn facto.

      •  group of people (4.00 / 2)

        This means that – unless this "group" approached the NYT together to divulge what they knew – the journalists were contacting their own sources (and/or others suggested by the original whistleblower(s)) and teasing out more info. I wonder if it was something like, "So, we heard such-and-such. Does this seem plausible? Do you know anything about it?" "Well, now you mention it..."

        I wonder how many others out there coud be convinced to open up about Team Shitbag's illegal operations if they were just asked (the right questions) point blank by the press. How many are sitting at home right now thinking of picking up the phone?

        BTW, this also points to something i think a lot of people have ignored when castigating the NYT for "sitting on the story" for a year. Something this big and sensitive requires a lot of very careful corroboration (and not to mention discussion with lawyers). Not that i want the Times completely off he hook. It's just that it has sometimes seemed like many here have unfairly protrayed them as protecting the White House. I think the tarred brushes were brought out a litle hastily. I know i wouldn't want to go straight to press with something like this. I'd want mucho backup to avoid following Dan Rather's fate.

        "They're telling us something we don't understand"
        General Charles de Gaulle, Mai '68

        by subtropolis on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 03:05:53 PM PDT

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        •  Yeah you right sub (none / 0)

             They would be scared shitless by it, but as news junkies they'd be  totally revved up. No wonder Judith Miller was getting away with her scene, they mgt didn't even see her... haha
             The legal discussions at how much a hour?..ouch. Still the bastids threw the election, and Kerry would have been able to respond firmly and quickly....hheeeyyy, wait a minute!
             And if they found out that close to the election, they'd have had to worry the story was a Karl Rove plant. That might have been the message from the WH, just enough KR spin to start a whiff of fear. No deal w/WH, just f'd with them when they asked for confirmation, and also then the secrecy issue smoke machine under their kilts.
              Gee maybe a little stressful!
             Door #1 or Door #2?
          •  i'll take the first door (none / 0)

            No, i think there really is something there. I can't see this being a Rove boobytrap. In any case, i think we give the Toad way too much credit. I'll bet he loves it when we worry about his little traps. Got us always second-guessing ourselves (which, in itself, isn't a bad thing).

            Keep in mind that NYT would have gone over this pretty damn carefully. Some of those sources would be people who know an awful lot about this and who can pretty much be trusted not to be fucking with the press. They wouldn't necessarily be spilling everything, mind. Just enough to confirm.

            But yeah – all of this would have taken quite a bit of time. One needs to make contact with potential sources, dance around the issue a little, come around to the subject in oblique ways. The Times reporters wouldn't have been going around asking, "Say, is the administration using the NSA to spy domestically?"

            Then there's all them lawyers. I can see how this may have taken a year, easily. And there were a dozen or so sources, but i doubt they all turned up together to spill to the Times a year ago.

            "They're telling us something we don't understand"
            General Charles de Gaulle, Mai '68

            by subtropolis on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 10:44:55 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  So there will be (none / 0)

        new legal ground broken here.

        Sometimes, you have to write the book, I suppose.

        We must never loose sight of who commited the crime here, though, it was Cheney and Bush, not the Whistleblower.

        So again, stay focused and the truth will win...

  •  A whistleblower? (4.00 / 3)

    As the story develops, it looks like there were numerous sources to begin with and dozens now. This is not something that came from one person.

    --felix

  •  These are not whistleblowers (4.00 / 6)

    these are American patriots, who are insiders. Deeply concerned about the blatant abuse of power.

    I think they should all be given medals of freedom.

    Overthrow the Government ~Vote~

    by missliberties on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 11:21:37 AM PDT

    •  well said (4.00 / 3)

      there are times when people have to speak up.  Daniel Ellsberg has been asking for people to step forward--and some people have.  They are true Americans, and I don't care if they're Republicans, Democrats, whatever.  This is not a partisan issue.  This is about maintaining a constitutional democracy.
      •  That is Why I feel (4.00 / 2)

        if they do an honest investigation, their "agenda" will pay a price.

        They are trying to intimidate the press.

        Doesn't this sound like something Mr. North Korea would do. Spy on your phone calls and your e-mails, using key words intercepts.
        It is a Pathetic and Blatant abuse of power. Period.

        Overthrow the Government ~Vote~

        by missliberties on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 11:57:03 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  they are completely (none / 0)

          trying to intimidate the press--these stories about Bush PERSONALLY meeting with people at the Times to ask them not to run the story are eerie.  To me, a free press in a democracy doesn't get pressured by the nation's president as to which stories to run...
  •  Lots o' Leakers (4.00 / 3)

    The NYT NSA story cites "nearly a dozen" insiders who spoke only on condition of anonymity.  WH can't punish one and not another, so this could get good, as we watch for sudden or mass departures from various agencies.
  •  James Comey (none / 0)

    Come on down!!!

    You are the next contestent on "The Smear is Right"

    Traditional Media Marching Orders effective Aug 1, 2008 - Nov 4, 2008: IOKIYAJM

    by justmy2 on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 11:52:34 AM PDT

  •  well, one thing for sure... (none / 0)

    the courts will be involved. So, as far as we can anticipate, there should habeas corpus, etc. If not, or if there is rendition or torture, we should know about it.

    Will the NYTimes spill the beans? or will they do the RIGHT thing this time, for a change. Will the Justice department attempt to get a judge to compel the reporter? Pinch? Keller? Will a judge sustain a contempt charge against a reporter in this circumstance?  

    Will the Judicial and executive branches get into a showdown? Does Dumerica care? what's on TV tonight? any specials at the mall? is michael doing Karen on the side? what engine you got in that thing? How was your christmas? Bush wiretaps? just protecting us from AYRabs.

    translation: might be interesting; don't expect outrage from the sheeple.

    fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!

    by seesdifferent on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 11:58:43 AM PDT

  •  Whomever Leaked the NSA Story (none / 1)

    Should receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom in the next admiknistration, restoring some dignity to that award.

    The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by easong on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 11:59:59 AM PDT

  •  Might be safer to go public, and yesterday (none / 0)

    If spouses and children -- and entire spy networks protecting America from WMDs -- are going to be hung out to dry again.

    Based on past precedent, Karl Rove policies are pretty dangerous to American national security interests, too.

  •  The Falcon and the Snowman (none / 0)

    Does anyone remember this book/movie based on the true story? This young kid got a job listening in on communications (CIA ?) because his father worked for the FBI. He became upset when he discovered that the USA was listening in on it's allies. He and his drug dealing buddy (played by a young Sean Penn) sold information to the Russians out of anger. I think he got a life sentence. Sad story...
  •  But they've already known it was leaked (none / 0)

    for over a year.

    Why didn't they investigate back then.  (Or did they?)

    If they didn't, then they allowed this "whistle-blower" to conintue - possibly with security clearance.  I mean, if it was such a big deal why wait till now to find out who talked to the NYT over a yer ago.

    Clealry it's an attempt to distract from the existence of Bush's own private justice system (and that's a consitutional crisis if ever there's one).

    I think they're panicking that a wall might be about to break - a critical mass of leaks - and this is an attempt to staunch the flow.

    "the fools, the fools, they've left us our Fenian Dead" (Padraig Pearse - Gay Revolutionary)

    by padraig pearse on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 02:13:55 PM PDT

    •  something's about to break (none / 0)

      "I think they're panicking that a wall might be about to break - a critical mass of leaks - and this is an attempt to staunch the flow"

      Sounds like Bush's second flood.

      •  Agreed. (none / 0)

        I think a bunch of things are about to come down on them, not just the NSA matter.

        I really hope the press isn't afraid to go with the truth regarding this bunch...

        I'm sure the rest of the country would stand in support.

        I know Americans are shown to be unconcerned, but I was doing some research on google this weekend, and almost every paper < with the exception of the Houston Chronicle> was outraged over this abuse of the NSA.

  •  What fate awaits? (none / 0)

    I think that Dick Cheney won't even get a reprimand over this leak of his.
  •  83% of Kossacks Said Ticker Tape Parade (none / 0)

    In this poll from a couple weeks ago.

    The rest settled for just a promotion...

    We have no intention of prosecuting Rush Limbaugh because lying through your teeth and being stupid isn't a crime.

    by The Baculum King on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 02:52:32 PM PDT

  •  Who are the whistleblowers? (4.00 / 2)

    Who are the whistleblowers?

    Nearly a dozen current and former officials, who were granted anonymity because of the classified nature of the program, discussed it with reporters for The New York Times because of their concerns about the operation's legality and oversight.  Bush Lets US Spy on Callers Without Courts; NYT Dec 16, 2005

    What Fate Awaits Them ??

    A ticker tape parade if we can make this one stick.

    IMPEACH !!

    "It's entertainment until somebody is attacked," Spocko said.

    by suskind on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 03:21:40 PM PDT

  •  Why would the WH (none / 0)

    get mad at somebody just for revealing the truth? After all, Rove did it with Valerie Plame and he's  been neither prosecuted nor persecuted, yet.

    JP
    http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com

    Defending bad taste and liberalism since 2005.

    by jurassicpork on Sun Jan 01, 2006 at 07:05:26 PM PDT

  •  Fate of NSA whistleblower... (none / 0)

    1. Gonads attached to a car battery

    2. Chinese Water Torture...by the Chinese

    3. Eyelids taped open - forced to watch 10,000 hours of Gilmore Girls

    4. Gets shot in the thigh by Jack ('24')

    The Worse Possible Scenario - Quetin Tar