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ScAlito Hearings Day 2 - Open Thread

Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:33:19 AM PDT

The hearings starting now.

An Open Thread for the Alito Hearings.

Specer first. Specter begins with "is there a right to privacy?" question. Alito's answer was weak and full of holes. Requires followup. Now Roe and Casey.

Specter quotes from Casey and queries on stare decisis. Alito says stare decisis a "very important doctrine." But it is "not an inexorable command." Avoids any specifics on Roe.

Alito is much more evasive on Casey than was Roberts. Roberts was just smoother. Alito says Court should not make decisions based on "public opinion." A nonsequitor to me.

Specter presses on the precedent point by referring to Rehnquist's upholding Miranda in Richardson on stare decisis grounds. Alito does not say that he agrees with Rehnquist in Richardson.

Specter then discusses the famous dissent by Justice Harlan in Poe v. Ullman:

[T]he full scope of the liberty guaranteed by the Due Process Clause cannot be found in or limited by the precise terms of the specific guarantees elsewhere provided in the Constitution. This "liberty" is not a series of isolated points pricked out in terms of the taking of property; the freedom of speech, press, and religion; the right to keep and bear arms; the freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures; and so on. It is a rational continuum which, broadly speaking, includes a freedom from all substantial arbitrary impositions and purposeless restraints, . . . and which also recognizes, what a reasonable and sensitive judgment must, that certain interests require particularly careful scrutiny of the state needs asserted to justify their abridgment.
and asks Alito if he agrees with Justice Harlan. Alito evades the question.

Specter then asks about the concept of "superprecedent." Alito rejects the idea. But concedes the idea that reaffirming precedents has weight. But he stresses that "stare decisis is not an inexorable command."

Specter asks about the 1985 memo where he stated that the favored the reversal of Roe. Alito admits that is what he believed but that he would approach the issue with an open mind. He says that "now that he is a judge, he puts his personal feelings aside." Riiiight.

But this is important -- Alito believes Roe was wrongly decided and the only reason he would not overturn it is if stare decisis compels it. Understand that point, Alito will overturn Roe UNLESS he believes stare decisis prevents it.

That is a critical admission by Alito.

Presidential Power. Specter cites Justice Jackson's concurrence in the Youngstown Steel Seizure cas es and asks Alito if he agrees with it. Alito says it is a "useful guideline." Alito says he agrees with O'Connor's "war is not a blank check" line from Hamdi. This is all meaningless when you consider his "unitary executive" theory. War need not be a blank check if you think the Constitution provides for unfettered Presidential power.

Specter now asks a complicated question about whether the AUMF amended FISA and how to determine that type argument. Alito answers that he would start the inquiry with a review of the statutes and resolution, then he would apply Justice Jackson's framework. But then he refuses to answer the question saying it may arise in a case before him.

Specter finally asks him about Alito's errors in his memo regarding Presidential signing statements where Alito said that the Presidential power is equally important to that of the Congress in the area of lawmaking. Alito does not disavow it, but calls it a "rough first memo."

Leahy now up.

Alito remarkably will not let go of the idea that the President has a say in the drafting of legislation. He seems not to understand that the lawmaking power vests solely in the Congress. I am nonplussed. It is an indefensible position and wonder how he can continue to maintain it. On the President's argument that he can "immunize" officials from following the law. As Leahy properly puts it, 'is Alito saying that the President can do this in some circumstances?' Alito's game of "following the Constitution." Indeed, Alito can not bring him self to say the President can not override the law. Remarkable.

So far, we can say one thing for sure - Alito is no John Roberts.
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  •  What Howard Dean has to say: (4.00 / 3)


    Judge Alito's record of currying favor with the extreme right and favoring government power over individual liberties might make him qualified as a favorite speaker at conservative think tanks, but it does not qualify him to sit on the Supreme Court.
    People who put politics over the rule of law cannot be trusted to guard our freedoms. Every American should shudder at the prospect of a judge with a history of ethical lapses and appeasing right-wing extremists getting a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land.

    Send a message to Senators now and join the 750,000 Americans speaking out against this dangerous nomination:

    http://www.democrats.org/....

    No Bucks.
    No Justice.
    No Peace.

    by theleftknew on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:35:31 AM PDT

  •  he should be careful when "relying" (none / 0)

    the good folks in the gulf relied upon help coming
  •  OK there have only been about 4 questions (none / 1)

    and I'm not getting into his views but doesn't it seem as if he's answering Specter's questions as if he was reciting in a 1L Con Law class?

    Just me?  ok then.

  •  Seriously (none / 0)

    Is Roe really the most pressing issue we have today?  

    Love is a temple, love the higher law. -7.00, -7.64

    by ckeesling on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:40:47 AM PDT

    •  Wrong question (none / 0)

      Is Roe the most important issue that the supreme court has today....and the answer may be yes.
    •  asdf (none / 0)

      To some, yes.

      People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election. --Otto von Bismarck

      by Ice Blue on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:43:58 AM PDT

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    •  no (4.00 / 1)

      I would put it a close 2nd, personally, along with other privacy issues. First would be the authority given to the President in the Constitution, especially wrt war and foreign policy/terrorism.
      •  Presidential power is a threat to you (none / 1)

        once removed.  First he takes the power and then he must do something with it that may or may not threaten you directly.
        The lose of women's rights have already been picked away at for years.  Overturning Roe has a direct and personal immediate effect on millions of women.

        Presidential power waxes and wane and we all survive.  Loss of abortion rights will kill many women, they are already dying under the laws of undue burden that have been placed on them.

        •  It seems (none / 0)

          to me that this President is wreaking havok right now and we need to address the issue of someone checking him for our sakes and the future of the world's sake.  I just don't see how a hypothetical danger that may or may not happen take precedence at the moment over an already manifested danger affecting all of us.

          Love is a temple, love the higher law. -7.00, -7.64

          by ckeesling on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:59:45 AM PDT

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          •  did you miss the part (none / 0)

            where I said that women are already dying?  Roe gets over turned and half of the population loses the right to self determination.
            •  well (none / 0)

              I can't speak for the GP, but I didn't miss that part. I just ignored it as hyperbole. While I certainly believe that abortion should be legal, I'm unclear on where these dying women are that you speak of.
              •  The primary difference (none / 0)

                between the the pre-Roe World and Post-Roe isn't the number of Abortions that take place every year (averaging about 1.2 to 1.3 million), but since  that time the likelyhood of serious injury and death to pregnant women has steadily decreased as physicians have become more adept at performing abortions.

                In 1973, the risk of dying from an abortion was 3.4 deaths per 100,000 legal abortions. This rate fell to 1.3 by 1977 (Gold, 1990). Today, abortion is one of the most commonly performed clinical procedures, and the current death rate from abortion at all stages of gestation is 0.6 per 100,000 procedures. This is eleven times safer than carrying a pregnancy to term and nearly twice as safe as a penicillin injection (AGI, 2004; Rock & Jones, 2003; Paul et al., 1999; Gold, 1990). From the beginning of the 1994 until 2000 there was a steady and marked decline in the average number of yearly abortions. Beginning in 2001, with the implementation of more restrictive Right-Wing policies (and the loss of health care for many women), acccording to the Houston Chronicle the abortion rate has risen another 52,000 per year and is now approximately 1.3 million. (Which is only 100,000 more than what we experienced in the pre-Roe V Wade era).

                So the point here, is that the anti-Roe stance is  that it is not likely to significantly protect the unborn, (it's stated goal) while at the same time far more women are likely to be injured or die as a result of inadequate care.

                Vyan

                The Reality-Based Community Our Truth - Our Soundtrack

                by Vyan on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 08:06:06 AM PDT

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                •  Yes! Abortions will happen.. The RWers are (none / 0)

                  doing nothing but trying to put the health of women at risk.

                  There are ways to bring about abortions yourself---the problem being that in some of them the difference between abortion and death of both is less that 1/2 tsp and there is not a standard strength.

                  Wire hangers also work just fine    IF   IF    IF there is no puncture of the uterus or infection.

                  Turkey feathers also work just fine and have for centuries.  Same problems as above.

                  The RW fasciochristians keep talking about the death of babies.  They should consider the death of mother and   AND  embryo/fetus.  Women who see no way to support or care for a child will do what they think they must, law or no law.

                  So, Alito, were you lying then to get a job, or are you lying now to get a job?

                  POW qualifies to run a war or a country like being locked in a basement qualifies to design and build basements for high rises. me

                  by maybeeso in michigan on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 11:43:32 AM PDT

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                  •  If the RW truly cared about (none / 0)

                    the life, health and safety of unborn children - they would focus on reforming the child support, foster care, adoption process to make it more open,  less costly and difficult to navigate (as Canada has done) so that women and families would have far more positive options for unexpected pregnanies than simply giving birth or getting an abortion.

                    IMO, if half the people out there protesting abortions with pictures of mutilated fetuses would instead spend their time finding and adopting unwanted children -- half the problem would be solved.

                    Also if they wanted to lower the number of abortions they would support the use of contraception, including RU34, to prevent unwanted  pregnancies.  Instead they support efforts by pharmacist to refuse to distribute legal medication to prevent pregnancy.

                    Vyan

                    The Reality-Based Community Our Truth - Our Soundtrack

                    by Vyan on Thu Jan 12, 2006 at 10:37:13 AM PDT

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            •  I'm saying (4.00 / 1)

              that at the moment, Roe is the law.  At the same moment, our President is locking people up, spying on us, waging wars, torturing people and who knows what else.  I am not saying that if Roe were overturned in the future it might be just as serious a problem as those others, but I would start with Presidential abuse then move to Roe.

              Love is a temple, love the higher law. -7.00, -7.64

              by ckeesling on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:16:15 AM PDT

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        •  The scope of Presidential overreach (none / 0)

          is far larger than that of overturning Roe.

          Overturning Roe will, as you say, have terrible effects on women in general. But overturning Roe does not encourage further encroachment on women's rights - rather it will have the opposite effect. States will introduce legislation tending to balance it as people (who mostly oppose overturning Roe) get mobilized by this most obvious and naked threat).

          Overturning Roe may in fact catalyze the destruction of GOPer power for a generation.

          The effect of removing checks on the unfettered power of the Executive will be hard to reverse because of the increased power of the Executive (once the SCOTUS is reduced to a rubber stamp).

          In short:

          Overturn Roe - starts a negative feedback loop
          Remove checks on Bush - starts a positive feedback loop

          The Perfect is the Enemy of the Better

          by dabize on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:02:09 AM PDT

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      •  This whole debate (none / 0)

        about what is and is not important is misguided. Roe is fundamentally important because if it gets overruled it means that basic rights are up for grabs. Not only do women lose control over their own bodies (as if that wasn't bad enough), EVERYBODY potentially loses the right to privacy and other rights that are not specifically written down in the Constitution. That applies to everybody, about every right that is not explicitly enumerated. OK? And presidential power is fundamentally important because, well, we don't want Bush to be able to order death squads to come and assasinate his political opponenets. We want to live in a Democracy, where we actually have rights. Both are critically important.

        Write Al Gore a letter asking him to run: The Honorable Al Gore 2100 West End Avenue Suite 620 Nashville, TN 37203

        by MonkeyDog102 on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:52:31 AM PDT

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    •  certainly on my short list. n/t (none / 0)

      Evolution is so obsolete, gotta stamp your hands and clap your feet! Gotta dance like a monkey, dance like a monkey, child.

      by espresso on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:47:24 AM PDT

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    •  No, it isn't. (none / 1)

      Not when we have the President violating the Bill of Rights.
      •  Yes, it is, (none / 0)

        because Roe is based upon the Bill of Rights, the 9th Amendment.  Bush's attack on privacy is full scope and full bore, abortion, privacy, religion, free speech, press.  He sees us as worker bees in a corporate state.  Roe is the issue upon which we have a majority in favor of freedom in this country.  The fear mongering doesn't reach that issue.

        Patriotism may be the last refuge of scoundrels, but religion is assuredly the first.

        by StrayCat on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:00:12 AM PDT

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        •  No it isn't! (none / 0)

          What you need to understand is that, if Alito's belief is that President Bush can ignore the Constitution in times of war then he can completely ignore the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.  Thus make an executive order outlawing aboriton.
    •  yes (none / 0)

      the way you can tell is that everyone is talking about it.
    •  By itself, no (4.00 / 2)

      It's part of a much bigger attack on freedom. It's not really a separate issue. I would prefer that Roe not be the only part of the issue discussed. If the president is granted unlimited powers then all other discussions are pretty much over too.

      If I worry, will the future change?--Quai Chang Caine

      by Enjoy Every Sandwich on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:11:25 AM PDT

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    •  where he would go with Roe (none / 0)

      is likely indicative of how he would approach other privacy based issues.

      Let's get some Democracy for America

      by murphy on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:22:24 AM PDT

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    •  Abortion Rights (none / 0)

      I recommend renting "If These Walls Could Talk" from 1996 with Demi Moore and others.  It is about the evolution of abortion rights and is very enlightening if you're not sure about the importance of abortion rights.

      When you see Demi Moore going through all the motions in an attempt to get an abortion in the 1950's, you'll be a believer.  (Ok not you, ckeesling in particular, the proverbial "you" as in anyone reading this.)

      Chairman Conyers, you may call your first witness.

      by rabel on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 08:03:53 AM PDT

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    •  Roe (none / 0)

      Roe could be a distraction, this is all about bushie getting more power, you pack the courts with his people, or his loyalists, who would say anything against bushie, they could pardon anyone they want.
  •  Get Privacy Out Front (none / 0)

    But Specter's opening with this line of questions was good and unexpected - reliance put center stage - and Casey's homage to precedential value.  
    •  Reliance also matters for presidential power. (none / 0)

      Youngstown Steel also has precedential force.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:42:18 AM PDT

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      •  I'm excited (none / 0)

        to hear a Republican asking Alito about Youngstown.  Right now that Case may end up being FAR more important precedent than even   Roe v. Wade .

        ALl of the president's extraordinary and unconstitutional acts of late have been legally predicated on Dubious notion of the president's "Implied powers"   stemming from his power as commander in Chief of the armed forces.

        The Youngstown decision laid a mighty smackdown on a similar Power Grab by Truman during Korea.  If it holds up than all those legal arguments advanced by the WH in the last few weeks fold and his naked illegality is exposed for what it is.

        Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

        by Magorn on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 08:18:45 AM PDT

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    •  unexpected? (none / 0)

      Specter is the "moderate".. so he starts off with questions so it appears that GOPists are questioning this guy too.. but I doubt we'll see anything near this level from any of the other GOPists. Hell, half of them said yesterday that they already know they're going to vote yes. What questions could they have?
      •  Brownback said on C-SPAN this morning (none / 0)

        that he would be asking probing questions.  If he does, I imagine they would be on the issue of presidential power, as Brownback has indicated he is unhappy with the unwarranted snooping.

        But that will probably be tomorrow.  Brownback said they probably would not get to his questioning today.

        The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

        by lysias on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:51:42 AM PDT

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  •  Well actually (none / 0)

    it's pretty much the same way he started with Roberts
  •  I was there first! (none / 0)

    The Repubs distort, but we will not abide.

    by Christian Dem in NC on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:41:33 AM PDT

  •  Poor Arlen (none / 0)

    He just doesn't seem to be getting the answers that he wants to hear. It looks like Alito wants to fight based on his non-committal answers. For instance, his answer that precendent should generally stand and then later his answer that public opinion should not sway the Supreme Court but the reading of Constitutional law etc.

    I can tell by the first few answers that this is going to be a LONG day for Alito!! JMHO!!

  •  Isn't the only necessary (4.00 / 2)

    issue--not for the hearings but for watercooler chatter--that Alito's a  liar? Isn't that sufficient? "Vote against him. He's a liar."

    He lied about his position on abortion to get a job.

    He lied about recusing himself.

    He lied about being a member of the radical conservative group CAP.

    He's a liar. Far as public opinion goes, isn't that enough?

    •  No, because people won't believe it (none / 0)

      The guy looks respectable. He's smart. The president likes him. For most of the country the idea that he is a liar simply won't hold water.

      The left simply doesn't have the machine necessary to make that message stick.

      Write Al Gore a letter asking him to run: The Honorable Al Gore 2100 West End Avenue Suite 620 Nashville, TN 37203

      by MonkeyDog102 on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:55:40 AM PDT

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  •  Non-answers (none / 0)

    Alito's answers are nonsense to anyone who has read the cases and knows the law - but they're not intended for us, but Joe Sixpack and the media bubbleheads.
  •  Will Alito be confirmed? (none / 0)

    I just do not see any real movement amongst Dems here that gives me any confidence that this nomination will go down. Am I missing something?

    ObamaNation 2009!..... Rebecca > www.Kaplan4Oakland.org (4 coveted City-At-Large Council Seat)..... Gavin Newsom Governor California 2010......

    by AustinSF on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:44:23 AM PDT

    •  When did Bork go down? (none / 0)

      I was in college then so I didn't pay much attention.  Was it evident in committee he wasn't going anywhere?  Or did it unfold over several days?
      •  His Actually Going Down Took A While to Develop (none / 0)

        But liberal Democrats like Kennedy started actively going after him long before the hearings even began.

        Of course, that was a very different time, in a number of ways.  First, there was Democratic majority in the Senate.  Secondly, both parties' Senate caucuses were less strictly partisan in their voting patterns, so both Republican votes (like Specter's) and Democratic ones (like Howell Heflin) were really in play.  So it took a while for it to become clear that his nomination would go down to defeat.

        This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)

        by GreenSooner on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:54:58 AM PDT

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    •  No (none / 0)

      You are missing something.
    •  stay tuned for a dem to start asking (none / 0)

      make that demanding ral answers
    •  Agree (none / 0)

      Doesn't mean that Democratic Senators still can't find religion (as it were) and decide to filibuster, and eventually defeat this nomination.

      But it's still not clear that they really want to do this.  

      Perhaps they need to feel that there will be a real cost to their not doing it.  I don't, unfortunately, think there would be any political cost to their rolling over keeping their powder dry (grassroots Dems will complain a bit then vote for these folks anyway), but the danger of an autocratic presidency, upheld by a pliant SCOTUS, may create enough of a threat to their power as Senators that they may be moved to act.

      Or at least, I hope so.

      This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)

      by GreenSooner on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:51:31 AM PDT

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  •  *wakes up* (none / 1)

    pours glass of water

    deals with hangover

    wonders what happened last night

    remembers stare decisis from a failed business law course

    turns on C-SPAN

    "...blah blah as new factual situations come up, yadda yadda, new factual situations, blah, facts, blah blah, factual situations."

    I was wondering how he was planning to dodge all this shit. Fuck him.

    •  WTF is a "new factual situation" (none / 0)

      It's a fact that if he overturns Roe then women will die and be severely injured.  I'd say that's a factual situation that endures -- it doesn't change.
      •  Wingnuts look at new medical advances (none / 1)

        to save preemies etc. The new scientific evidence that fetuses have heartbeats at a certain time.  I remember Brownback mentioned something like this during Roberts' hearing. IIRC, the majority opinion relied upon the scientific evidence at that time.

        I think what he's saying is that if a litigant was able to prove that a fetus was a person through scientific means (heart beating, brain etc) then a fetus would have rights under the 5th and 14th amendment as a person and the state could not deprive the fetus of "life."

        I think he's speaking in code, like GWB in the 2nd debate but you've got to listen closely . . . .

        •  You've got it exactly (none / 0)

          The SCOTUS made a distinction in their previous infamous ruling that there was a pressing government interest once the fetus reached the third trimester and this interest could outweight the right to privacy "penumbra".

          That's why, on it's face, a partial birth abortion ban or restrictiosn of abortion are generally legal if they provide a "safety and health" clause for the mother.

          •   Yeah, one of the biggest beefs (none / 0)

            that the other side has with Roe v. Wade was the majority opinion's declaration that a fetus was not a life under the 5th/14th amendments. The other side's goal in the future will be to present scientific evidence to change that. In other words, they want to change the balancing test developed by the Roe/Casey courts in favor of the fetus' interests, instead of the woman's.

            His answers basically said that he was on the same wavelength as Brownback/Coburn, but he worded it in legalese so that the public generally (media in particular) didn't know what he was talking about. He may not be as slick as Roberts, but he's still pretty slick, IMHO!!

      •  Hey, it's either women or fetii (fetuses?) (none / 0)

        Whatever.. apparently symbolism wasn't wasted on Alito's mold.
    •  Drinking water (none / 1)

      What lawyers tell witnesses to do when they get a question they don't like...
  •  Dude (none / 0)

    his joke wasn't even funny.

    But you know some Repubs laughed just to make it seem that way.

  •  Using Luttig Against Alito (none / 0)

    Oh yes - good move, Specter.  Which right winger do you disagree with?
  •  What I don't get... (none / 1)

    ... is how one of the right's talking points is that you shouldn't confirm/deny a judge based on one opinion - i.e. you can't pick on him just because he'd overturn Roe v Wade.

    Isn't that exactly what the right is doing - picking judges who'll overturn Roe and with a wink and a nudge saying "shh, don't tell anyone?"

    Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believing as we already do. - James Harvey Robinson

    by pi1304 on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:49:21 AM PDT

  •  "Open mind" my ass! (none / 0)

    he doesn't even lie well
  •  WSJ: Alito & Unitary Executive Theory (none / 0)

    The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

    by lysias on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:49:43 AM PDT

  •  Clearly Alito does not seem to have much respect (none / 0)

    for Congress.

    That is my sense.

    HIs wife is breathless with anticipation of overturning Roe.

    Altio seems extremely elitist to me.

    Why does he look like he is in so much pain?

    Is he wearing barbed wire on his leg? (Opus Die)

    Overthrow the Government ~Vote~

    by missliberties on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:50:10 AM PDT

  •  Can't hide under that (none / 1)

    "those were my views at the time" nonsense.   Uh let's start reading what you wrote in Casey, shall we?   You were a judge then, RIGHT?
    •  Well... (none / 0)

      if he has an open mind, isn't that enough for wingers to dump him?  If they truly believed that he would vote to uphold Roe in any way shape or form, they would not support his nomination.

      I don't really see a withdrawal of support, so I don't think they believe him either.

    •  I don't have a problem if he would say (none / 0)

      "I've changed my mind/views"....but honestly, with him and Roberts I have wanted to laugh over the "I didn't really mean what I wrote" stuff...how can these guys claim all of this supposed integrity if they are willing to say anything in order to get a job or a promotion or whatever?
      •  well (none / 1)

        When you are a government lawyer you really do have to write opinions and justifications you don't agree with.  It's not unusual to have 5-10 legal stances drawn up for any given argument.  
        •  Are you speaking from experience? (none / 0)

          Cause that sounds untrue to me.

          Alito went to work for Reagan because he believed in Reagan's ideology.  I find it hard to believe he found himself writing memos in favour of affirmative action or for a more secular interpretation of the constitution.  

          If he didn't believe in Reagan's views, he could and should have worked in the private sector, where he'd make more money right?

          •  I am speaking from (none / 0)

            limited experience with government contracts.  There are always multiple views of a process laid out.  They'll ask for 5 interpretations of hte situation ranging from most unfavorable to most favorable, for example.

            If he didn't believe in Reagan's views, he could and should have worked in the private sector, where he'd make more money right?

            The thing is (1) what President's views are in flux.  Before election Bush said he was against nation building; if you went to work for him on the premise he was against nation building you'd be pretty surprised to hear his current position and (2) you will almost never find two people with the same views on every issue.

  •  Did he just say (none / 0)

    "the law of stare decisis?"

    Comforting the Afflicted and Afflicting the Comfortable Whenever Possible

    by RevDeb on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:53:17 AM PDT

  •  Sounds like Specter is setting Alito up (none / 0)

    to hammer him on the NSA spying ... mentioned that the president's power is not unlimited.

    The Repubs distort, but we will not abide.

    by Christian Dem in NC on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:55:51 AM PDT

  •  the bill of rights? (none / 0)

    What about the rest of the Constitution? Only a nomenclature mixup, I'm sure.. but interesting nonetheless.
  •  Right on cue (none / 0)

    Specter asks about whether the September 14 resolution was carte blanche for the warrantless spying.  Quotes the FISA law to Alito.  Mmmm boy ...

    The Repubs distort, but we will not abide.

    by Christian Dem in NC on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:57:24 AM PDT

  •  Specter's asking good questions (none / 1)

    But Alito's answers are generic mishmash and without content.  That is to be expected but Specter, being a Rethug, just takes those answers (apparently) at face value and gives them a pass.  Hopefully, the Dems will be more like a DA and push and dig hard (grill) Alito.  He MUST give substantive answers that bring Alito into danger of committing perjury in giving pap answers.

    Reichstag fire is to Hitler as 9/11 is to Bush

    by praedor on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:00:08 AM PDT

  •  Eh, Ex parte Milligan (none / 0)

    I want him to ask about Korematsu and Quirin.  
    •  Well I would even like (none / 1)

      to ask Douglas about Korematsu, but I think we have about equal chances of getting our wishes. :)
      •  Korematsu is probably asking Douglas... (none / 0)

        about it now that they're both on the other side.

        Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?

        by RFK Lives on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:05:45 AM PDT

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        •  I do believe (none / 0)

          that Douglas had regretted his vote in Korematsu by the 1960s at the latest.  

          I've also read that Douglas believed that the internment was unconstitutional in 1944 itself, but he was seriously considered himself as a  Vice Presidential candidate for FDR in 1944, and did not want to doom his chances by striking one of FDR's orders down.

          John McCain's Something for Everyone Plan: Military draft for youth, SS benefit cuts for elderly, Middle Class destruction, stock market plunge for wealthy.

          by IhateBush on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:44:19 AM PDT

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  •  Bring Alito's crap on signing statements in! (none / 0)

    Alito's position with regards to the de facto line item veto power Alito envision...THERE IT IS!  Way to go Arlen!

    Reichstag fire is to Hitler as 9/11 is to Bush

    by praedor on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:02:03 AM PDT

  •  Alito seems just to have admitted (none / 0)

    that Jackson's three-category scheme in Youngstown Steel is what is to be used in determining whether the warrantless snooping is legal.

    I believe that means that the snooping is illegal unless FISA's limiting the president's ability to snoop is unconstitutional.

    The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

    by lysias on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:02:17 AM PDT

  •  Ok this is driving me nuts (none / 0)

    Every time I see and hear him speak, my gaydar is going off like crazy?  Not a knock, just an observation.   Anyone else or is it just me?
  •  Armando, if you get a sec (none / 0)

    could you explain the impact of Alito's dissent in Rybar?

    Claws beat Skin Take Back America

    by polydactyl on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:05:17 AM PDT

  •  OH SHIT! (none / 1)

    Leahy just brought up Bush's deflection of McCain's amendment!

    BRILLIANT!

  •  Veto power (4.00 / 2)

    Specter makes an excellent point regarding the President signing a statement along with signing a bill. If the President disagrees with the law, he has the constitutional option to veto. Then, Congress has the constitutional option to attempt an over-ride.

    If the President simply signs every bill, and gives his objection via alternate means, he is subverting the Congressional role.

    Excellent point.

    He has oil. He tried to kill my daddy.

    by kensa on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:05:33 AM PDT

  •  Subtitle (4.00 / 2)

    Everytime Alito takes a drink of water, the words, "fuck you, very much, Senator" should appear on the crawl.
  •  I wish they'd cut the nonsense (4.00 / 2)

    I want the Senators to ONLY say a "hello" and then dig in.  No chitchat, no niceties.  Just "Good morning, in 1994 you stated..." Spend every possible second digging into his skull.

    Reichstag fire is to Hitler as 9/11 is to Bush

    by praedor on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:06:35 AM PDT

  •  Using children as photo-ops (none / 1)

    I have to drive by the Dirksen Senate Office Building on my daily commute (this is location of the hearings).

    It is most disturibing to see little children holding signs as part of a protest with their parents.   Those kids have no idea why they are out there and should, frankly, be in school.  This goes for both sides of the protest.

    Of course I gave a big "thumbs down" to the kid with the "Support Alito" sign.  I can only imagine what other commuters were doing.

    Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the War Room!

    by bogdanmi on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:08:06 AM PDT

    •  Signs? (none / 0)

      What do they say?  Crap like "i'm glad my mommy didn't abort me?"  

      Get DSS out there to take custody of the children from these deranged parents.

      •  Only had about a 5 second glance at it... (none / 0)

        The ones I saw were pretty tame, "Support Alito", "Confirm Alito", etc.  Nothing graphic from the anti-choice crowd.  Pretty sure the whole crowd (less than 50) was pro-Alito though.  There isn't much space there in front of the building on the sidewalk and I doubt they had a permit.

        Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the War Room!

        by bogdanmi on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:22:22 AM PDT

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  •  Regarding Yesterday... (4.00 / 2)

    I couldn't believe my ears yesterday as I listened to the good Justice ramble on and on about how his family's history is fundamentally rooted in the graces of our great nation's social welfare system -- his grandfather's guaranteed benefit pension steel factory job, his father's last minute scholarship and government employment help, and his own public school attendance.  It was clearly apparent that this was a self made man who pulled himself up by his bootstraps despite the graces this good country bestowed upon his heritage.  Thank God he will get straight to work to dismantle the rights of individuals in favor of corporations so that they can put people like his grandfather out of work and take away their pensions with zero repercussion.  And thank God he will be working soon enough to destroy public education by doing what he can to keep the federal government from adequately funding it.  It was good to hear that Alito's mother was able to work "for more than a decade before marrying".  Thank God Sammy will do his right best to make sure that American mothers of the next generation don't have that kind of wasteful opportunity without the full blessing of their godfearing familes and the good old moral government in their life planning decisions.

    We can also rest assured that he will put a stop to "smart people and very privileged people behaving irresponsibly".  It was so unfair that he was too inhibited in his college years to have fun.  It's about time that he do his part to force everyone in the country to live lives that reflect the "decency of the people back in [his] own community".  The sooner we confirm this conflicted man, the sooner we can get about living lives of utopian restraint and submission.

    Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

    by intrados on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:08:12 AM PDT

  •  He was about to say... (none / 0)

    "Well if we are in a time of war" but he caught himself.
  •  Alito returned to Jackson scheme (none / 0)

    in answering Leahy's questions about the OLC memos expressing the president-can-do-no-wrong theory.

    The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

    by lysias on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:09:53 AM PDT

  •  Alito is NOT answering the question (none / 0)

    Bastard.  He's leaving it open that the Pres has "Constitutional authority" to violate the law via a signing statement, under the "magic powers" of "executive privilege.  What a monster.

    Reichstag fire is to Hitler as 9/11 is to Bush

    by praedor on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 07:12:15 AM PDT