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Filibuster Alito

Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 04:28:43 PM PDT

Do I support a filibuster? The answer is yes.  

Yesterday Senator Kennedy and I spoke with our colleagues about it. I don't have a shred of doubt in my opposition to Sam Alto's nomination. I know Senator Kennedy does not either. He has truly been a great leader in the effort to oppose Judge Alito.  

I spent a lot of time over the last years thinking about the Supreme Court and who America needs on the highest court in the land. So I don't hesitate a minute in saying that Sam Alito is not that person. His entire legal career shows that, if confirmed, he will take America backwards. People can say all they want that "elections have consequences." Trust me, more than anyone I understand that. But that seems like an awfully convoluted rationale for me to stay silent about Judge Alito's nomination.

I voted against Justice Roberts, I feel even more strongly about Judge Alito. Why? Rather than live up to the promise of "equal justice under the law," he's consistently made it harder for the most disadvantaged Americans to have their day in court. He routinely defers to excessive government power regardless of how extreme or egregious the government's actions are. And, to this date, his only statement on record regarding a woman's right to privacy is that she doesn't have one.  

I said yesterday that President Bush had the opportunity to nominate someone who would unite the country in a time of extreme division. He chose not to do this, and that is his right.  But we have every right, in fact, we have a responsibility, to fight against a radical ideological shift on the Supreme Court. Just think about how this nomination came to be. Under fire from his conservative base for nominating Harriet Miers--a woman whose judicial philosophy they mercilessly attacked--President Bush broke to extreme right-wing demands.  

This was a coup.  

Miers was removed and Alito was installed to replace the swing vote on the Court. The President gave no thought to what the American people really wanted--or needed. So it's up to us to think about what America really needs - that's part of the true meaning of "advice and consent."  

Here's the bottom line though and I'll just be blunt and direct about it. It takes more than one or two people to filibuster. It's not "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." I'm doing what I can, Senator Kennedy is doing what he can, but if, like me, you want to stop Judge Alito from becoming Justice Alito, we can't just preach to our own choir. We need even more of your advocacy.

Tags: John Kerry, Samuel Alito, Recommended, filibuster, SCOTUS (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  Go John go! (4.00 / 44)

    Fight the *****!

    We've got your back!

    •  Senator, some may impugn your motives (4.00 / 53)

      for calling for a filibuster at this point in the game.  While we cannot know your thoughts, most of us agree on one thing: filibustering Alito is the right thing for the country, torpedoes be damned.  I, for one, am proud to have voted for you.

      Seek first and final principles at The Mean Free Path.

      by Cream Puff on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 04:39:50 PM PDT

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      •  Certainly the Republicans (3.94 / 17)

        will question motives...but this is a political risk
        and I, for one, am glad the good senator think it's worth it!!

        New Frame: McCain thinks he is entitled to the presidency, and will say anything to get what he thinks he is owed.

        by coigue on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 04:43:27 PM PDT

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        •  I don't think of it as a political risk. We hope (4.00 / 18)

          it succeeds, but if it fails, it can be turned around to a political success. Here's why, IMO.

          If a filibuster occurs, it can have a successful outcome. Success

          If a filibuster is broken by the Repugs going nuclear or if it fails, then the Democrats can argue when things go awry, that Repug policies don't work; right to choose was taken away by the Repugs; the working class is struggling because the Repug Supreme Court rules against the working class; etc. Success

          This would have been particularly keen if all Dems voted no and then joined the filibuster. The Repugs could not then argue bipartisan support for Alito as they can now.

          There's extra political gain if the Repugs do go nuclear, because it will show they have no respect for the Constitution or the Senate rules and traditions, are power-mad, and when they dig a hole for this country, continue digging deeper and faster. Success

          There's no risk for trying. The above lays out a case against the Repugs long term.

          I support the Cooperative Research site's 9/11 timeline efforts and 9/11 families.

          by davidwparker on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:18:49 PM PDT

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          •  Risk (none / 0)

            is for the Senator's future ambitions.

            New Frame: McCain thinks he is entitled to the presidency, and will say anything to get what he thinks he is owed.

            by coigue on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:41:28 PM PDT

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            •  The risk will not come from wonks like us (4.00 / 4)

              but from those who watch CNN, or believe what they are told without checking things out for themselves.

              Make no mistake, the media will portray this in the worst possible light for the Senator, and some will believe it.

              But those of us who are paying attention are grateful nonetheless.

              "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

              by Kerrycrat on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:46:37 PM PDT

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              •  I used (none / 1)

                to watch CNN religiously

                Not any more after the BS coming out of everyone but Anderson Cooper and Jack Cafferty

                And seeing that their advertisers are all companys involved in wrecking the environment, etc, so CNN won't investigate them

                I'm kind of stalling for time here...They told me what to say. George W Bush, 03-21-2006 10:00 EST Press Conference

                by Tamifah on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 02:27:41 AM PDT

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                •  Filibuster, How To: (2.00 / 3)

                  First : Call the three Democrats (Mary Landrieu, Ken Salazar, and Dianne Feinstein) who oppose Alito but also said they oppose a filibuster. We must persuade them that a vote against Alito is meaningless if they don't support a filibuster. Senator Salazar (D-CO) 202-224-5852 Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) 202-224-5824 Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) 202-224-3841

                  Second : Call your own Democratic Senator: 888-355-3588 or 888-818-6641. If you can't get through, look up the Senator's District Office number in your phone book or here: http://capwiz.com/...

                  Third : Unbelievably, three Democrats (Ben Nelson, Tim Johnson and Robert Byrd) support Alito! Tell them to either support filibuster or at least "don't get in the way." Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) 202-224-6551 Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV) 202-224-3954 Sen. Tim Johnson (D-SD) 202-224-5842
                  888-355-3588 or 888-818-6641. If you can't get through, look up the Senator's District Office number in your phone book or here: http://capwiz.com/...

                  Fourth: Call the "Red State" Democrats: (Message same as above -- "No" is meaningless) Tom Carper (DE)
                  Kent Conrad (ND)
                  Byron Dorgan (ND)
                  Blanche Lincoln (AR) Mark Pryor (AR)

                  Fifth : Call these "Blue State" and pro-choice Republicans: (Message: A "Unitary Executive" is dangerous to balance of powers--please do not get in the way of a filibuster.) Lincoln Chafee (RI)
                  Susan Collins (ME)
                  Lisa Murkowsky (AK)
                  Bob Smith (OR)
                  Olympia Snowe (ME)
                  Ted Stevens (AK)

                  For extra credit, call all of the 2008 Presidential candidates who are sitting Senators--Evan Bayh, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Russ Feingold, and John Kerry--and tell them to either LEAD THE FILIBUSTER or KISS YOUR SUPPORT GOODBYE. 888-355-3588 or 888-818-6641. If you can't get through, look up the Senator's District Office number in your phone book or here: http://capwiz.com/...

                  You can also send that message to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (202-224-2447) and the Democratic National Committee (202-863-8000).
                  Polls and public opinion are another way to apply pressure -- get word out about why Alito needs to be filibustered:

                  Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper. (Click here)

                  People for the American Way has collected nearly 65,000 signatures to send to the Senate, please add yours: Save the Court Petition

                  John Kerry has endorsed this anti-Alito petition, signers' names will be read into the Congressional Record:http://www.johnkerry.com/...

              •  Despite what the media says (none / 1)

                NO ONE votes against a candidate because they fillibustered a judge. Except the religious right, and they vote against every Democrat anyway. There is no downside to fillibustering, IMHO. Dems who won't do it merely show the world that they don't have the strength of their convictions. And people do vote against you for that.

                [-7.88/-6.67] Forged Demon - Zen Politics

                by sohei on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 11:14:47 AM PDT

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            •  With the press doing the Swift-boating, what more (4.00 / 3)

              can they possibly do to Kerry. Kerry has no future outside of MA if he does not fight the * administration. I'm from VA and know him from his campaign. He does not want to leave with me the impression he left conceding and then ask for my vote in 2008.

              I support the Cooperative Research site's 9/11 timeline efforts and 9/11 families.

              by davidwparker on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 06:29:21 PM PDT

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              •  David, ....BUT (none / 1)

                Perhaps he should have organized a filibuster before all the Democrats committed.  (a Jon Stewart look)

                Hello, Senator Kerry, you were against the filibuster before you were in favor of it.  

                Perhaps you should have done this while the hearings were going on so that you would have been able to shut the mouths of the talking heads who said a filibuster was impossible and turning the entire country against filibuster.  Perhaps you could have drawn attention to some of the good issues that were being talked about instead of the phony Rove-tears from Mrs. Alito.  Perhaps you would have made people aware of what is at stake, especially young women who never vote.

                Your timing is horrendous, but what else is new?

                I don't believe Kerry thinks there is any more of a chance of this filibuster going through than a Swift Boat captain getting to ask questions at a Bush rally.  I think Kerry is doing this to try to get in favor with us but it's toooooo late!

                If he was serious, he would have had at least 25 Senators with him when he made the announcement.  Pathetic again.  I didn't see the announcement, so, if he did have 25 Senators with him, I stand corrected, but experience tells me he didn't!

                "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

                by cpa1 on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 06:09:34 AM PDT

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                •  Well argued! (none / 0)

                  This should have been a Diary, unto itself.

                  I reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks in Sozadee CA.

                  by The Messenger on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 06:54:41 AM PDT

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                •  Do you know what's missing? (none / 1)

                  Anger and Disgust!

                  Where are all the speeches from Senators about all the women living in states where abortion becomes illegal.  Imagine women in Louisianna who get raped and the same way they had no money to get out of New Orleans before Katrina, they will not have money to travel for an abortion, like the Bush girls would, in a heartbeat.

                  Where are the speeches about how overturning Roe will embolden pure white trash scum desciples of Karl Rove and that twit Ralph Reed, like Eric Rudolph who blow up abortion clinics, killing inocent men and women or how this sludge terrorizes and threatens and kills doctors who perform abortion?

                  What about all the Catholic hospitals in the big cities refusing to tell women who have been raped about the morning after pill.  Under the Bush Court, thse hospitals will have carte-blanche to unfairly spread Vatican philosophy, that most Catholics don't even believe, on women, Catholic and not Catholic, who were raped by the most brutal of men.    

                  My God, if you are going to do it, do it right!  You put the blood of these women who will have back-alley abortions on the heads of these Senators so that they know when the first woman dies by bleeding to death, her blood will be all over their heads, on their faces, dripping down onto the Senate floor.  You charge those individual Senators who would not stop this man, with all the deaths of all the women who have to live by rules that they themselves would not live by nor be constrained by.  You charge them with forcing raped women to give birth to children borne out of violent attacks on their bodies by societies sickest men. You tell them to swear an oath that their children and grandchildren will live by the sames rules and the same monetary contraints as anyone else in their states.  Charge them with hypocrisy and negligence.

                  You charge these Senators, Republicans also like Chafee, Snowe, Spector and Collins with knowingly playing roulette with these women's internal organs because they knew what Alito would do and they knew what kind of pigs Bush and Rove are.

                  Kerry's ploy is another f___g joke like the last election.  If you want to stop Alito, you talk about the damage he can do.  That is exactly why there is a filibuster, to force the party in power not to go too far overboard and pick judges in the extreme.  How can they let such an evil imbecile and Karl Rove select lifetime appointments to the Supreme Ct. after what these men have done?

                  "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

                  by cpa1 on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 07:21:30 AM PDT

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                •  Then Kerry does what he didn't do at the time of (none / 0)

                  the Swift-boating and the flip-flop: He puts it back on press.

                  A reponse like this: During the campaign, I tried to take the high road and speak to the issues. I see that in these times of journalist getting paid to have an opinion, and corporate-controlled media who spread RNC talking-points, that that was a mistake. Rather than address the voted-for before I voted-against allusion, I will forward the press here for information about my position on the Iraqi war and to C-SPAN archives where I gave a detailed address on the Senate floor. So, if the press cares to do its job and report what I said, rather than RNC talking points, you'll find there was no flip-flop, but a careful analysis of handling Iraq. Not proceed half-cocked as this administration consistently does.

                  I haven't been a Kerry fan, but I'm cutting him some slack. At least he did something and if it turns out to be an attempt to court favor, then time will tell. As far as votes go, the voting is preliminary and votes can be changed. The cloture vote is suppose to be Monday and the vote that counts is Tuesday from what I last heard. Some have argued that a trojan horse is in play. I hope so.

                  But, for now, I'm cutting Kerry some slack.

                  I support the Cooperative Research site's 9/11 timeline efforts and 9/11 families.

                  by davidwparker on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 10:58:11 AM PDT

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                •  Response to cpa1 (none / 0)

                  cpa1, what a load of horse crap. All you hear is bitching and whining on this blog about how the Democrats in Congress are weak and don't have the spine to stand up and filibuster.

                  Then Kerry filibusters...

                  When you are out numbered and out gunned, you take anyone you can get in the foxhole that is willing to fight. You don't turn your gun on them.

                  If you want to fight, protest the Democrats not filibustering.

                  •  It's not about what he's doing it's about WHEN/HOW (none / 0)

                    I think it was armando or kos who had a post about this earlier today or yesterday...you have to generate a campaign and a "media" train to follow along with it.  Timing is crucial, and when you let the Corporate controlled media run with the story for more than a month and keep pushing Alito on the country (as usual to push Admin agenda's), you lose momentum and the half wits, sheep and people who don't have time for "staying informed" are swayed to think something is wrong with the Filibuster, and then many of those Senators who are in those "close call" states believe they can't support a Filibuster.  So I disagree with Clean the House, and I actually quite agree with cpa1.  
            •  Alito lied (4.00 / 3)

              when he said he did not remember belonging to Concerned Alumni of Princeton nor even what the organization stood for. Ask any Princetonian graduating between 1972 and 1987. It is impossible to have forgetten about CAP.

              This lie is reason in itself to filibuster Alito.

              In addition, the fact of his affiliation with CAP may (in my opinion may very likely) be confirmed by documents currently in someone's possession. This person (or persons) are obviously now friendly to Alito and highly supportive of his candidacy. In time, however, these same people may use these very documents against Alito in an adversarial or pressuring fashion; much as, for example, Abramoff currently threatens the White House with the possible release of personalized (Bush-signed) photos.

              This reason -- the constant threat of blackmail -- in addition to Alito's lie about CAP, should doubly disqualifies his nomination. He will always face pressure from outside interests, specifically from this Executive.

              I believe Alito is there to do Bush's bidding until well after Bush is out of office. He was put there for the same reason Miers was, to assert Bush's influence over future decisions regarding the legality of actions taken during Bush's presidency. For this reason as well, Alito cannot be allowed on the Supreme Court.

              Alito is not acceptable. He is not worth the risk.

              Thank you, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy. Filibuster.

          •  I agree (none / 1)

            You said it well.  No risk, no gain.  The base wants  our Democratic leaders to make our case known loud and clear.  Even if the filibuster fails, it shows it was given the good ole' college try and will rev us up in the primaries and going into Nov.  If they change the rules, it'll show they won't or can't play by the rules.  The history books need to have a record of what the Democratics did or tried to do with the nomination.  IMHO
        •  No risk from my Perspective (4.00 / 7)

          When Mr. Kerry's term is up, should he choose to run for Senate again, he'll get my vote as he's done so twice before (once for senate, once for pres...)

          CHARRRRGE!

          •  I agree (4.00 / 2)

            I left a message for the Senator last night - I said that I would not support him in the future should he not lead the filibuster - I'm not so self-important as to think it is what made up his mind - but I will live up to my word.
          •  I agree. (4.00 / 2)

            There is no risk. If John Kerry is not apart of the government with Alito on aboard and a neocon
            supreme court, well, he's not missing much anyway.

            KUDOS Sen. KERRY!

            Thanks for keeping in touch!

            And more importantly thanks for standing up
            for us, even though everyone else is chickening
            out.

            XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

            The embodiment of the American Spirit:"I'm risking my life for people I hate, for reason's I don't quite understand. Gotta Go."-Homer Simpson

            by Krush on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:04:01 PM PDT

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            •  SEN. KERRY: THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! (none / 0)

              Admittedly, I haven't always been the biggest fan of yours....but now, NOW I sincerly see you differently.
              Thank you, WE GOT YOUR BACK on this! Whatever it takes to fillibuster Alito! Thanks so much for standing up for us!!!
              Godspeed....

              "The truth may be puzzling. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true." -Carl Sagan

              by astronautagogo on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 12:07:57 AM PDT

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        •  Risk (4.00 / 10)

          The risk is in not fighting.  I so much enjoyed reading "...we have every right, in fact, we have a responsibility, to fight..."  Yes, Yes, Yes.  I'll call Senator Feinstein again.  Thank you so much.

          "I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, you know I'm a peaceful man.'" Robbie Robertson

          by NearlyNormal on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:19:12 PM PDT

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        •   We don't need 41 votes. Frist NEEDS to find 60. (4.00 / 46)


          The proof is here in the 1993 roll-call vote. See the cool graphic of the recorded vote. It takes an affirmative 60 votes to prevail and shut debate.

          So you don't need exactly 41 NAYs. You just need fewer than 60 votes in favor of cloture.  >>   See the Republicans' 39-vote filibuster of 1993, for example, that required the Dems to round up more votes of support from the other side to confirm.  It just might work!  Show that Alito does not have enough bipartisan support.

          If some of the wafflers can vote "present," there are roll call votes that show how this works.

          If Republicans cannot muster 60 votes to shut down debate, they don't have enough support.

      •  Filibuster, How To (UDATE!) (3.66 / 21)

        Fifth : Call these "Blue State" and pro-choice Republicans: (Message: A "Unitary Executive" is dangerous to balance of powers--please do not get in the way of a filibuster.) Lincoln Chafee (RI)
        Susan Collins (ME)
        Lisa Murkowsky (AK)
        Bob Smith (OR)
        Olympia Snowe (ME)
        Ted Stevens (AK)

        For extra credit, call all of the 2008 Presidential candidates who are sitting Senators--Evan Bayh, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Russ Feingold, and John Kerry--and tell them to either LEAD THE FILIBUSTER or KISS YOUR SUPPORT GOODBYE. 888-355-3588 or 888-818-6641. If you can't get through, look up the Senator's District Office number in your phone book or here: http://capwiz.com/...

        You can also send that message to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (202-224-2447) and the Democratic National Committee (202-863-8000).
        Polls and public opinion are another way to apply pressure -- get word out about why Alito needs to be filibustered:

        Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper. (Click here)

        People for the American Way has collected nearly 65,000 signatures to send to the Senate, please add yours: Save the Court Petition

        John Kerry has endorsed this anti-Alito petition, signers' names will be read into the Congressional Record:http://www.johnkerry.com/...

        •  BUT FIRST (TO FILIBUSTER): (3.62 / 32)

          First : Call the three Democrats (Mary Landrieu, Ken Salazar, and Dianne Feinstein) who oppose Alito but also said they oppose a filibuster. We must persuade them that a vote against Alito is meaningless if they don't support a filibuster. Senator Salazar (D-CO) 202-224-5852 Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) 202-224-5824 Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) 202-224-3841

          Second : Call your own Democratic Senator: 888-355-3588 or 888-818-6641. If you can't get through, look up the Senator's District Office number in your phone book or here: http://capwiz.com/...

          Third : Unbelievably, three Democrats (Ben Nelson, Tim Johnson and Robert Byrd) support Alito! Tell them to either support filibuster or at least "don't get in the way." Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) 202-224-6551 Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV) 202-224-3954 Sen. Tim Johnson (D-SD) 202-224-5842
          888-355-3588 or 888-818-6641. If you can't get through, look up the Senator's District Office number in your phone book or here: http://capwiz.com/...

          Fourth: Call the "Red State" Democrats: (Message same as above -- "No" is meaningless) Tom Carper (DE)
          Kent Conrad (ND)
          Byron Dorgan (ND)
          Blanche Lincoln (AR) Mark Pryor (AR)

          •  Done, Done,& Done! (4.00 / 7)

            Now I am working on all my friends and relatives to do the same.
          •  What's really important is to call your Senators (4.00 / 5)

            if you are from those states --- and get every person you can muster who is also a constituent to call them too.

            For instance, I'll be drafting email promptly to all my fellow Californian friends.

            But calling a Senator from out-of-state is wasted effort.  Or, rather, just tires out the aides answering phones.  Instead, put that effort to good use.

            Secondly, since when is DE a "red state"?  I mean - went for Kerry, went for Gore, has two Dem senators???  Sure, there's always room for improvement, but... maybe my Delawarean roots are showing...

            War is NOT a preventative measure.

            by demandcaring on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:04:02 PM PDT

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            •  All Democrats: Hold up Copies of the Constitution (4.00 / 6)

              high in the air while you filibuster.  Then at Bush's State Of The Union Address, when that liar tells more lies, every senator and congressperson should hold up the Constitution in a show of American and Democrat solidarity.

              That will bring it home to our citizens.  It's the Constitution we're fighting for and Alito will help this rabid Administration destroy it.

          •  I can't take much more of this spam. (1.61 / 21)

            It must be stopped. 0's for you.

            Fool me once, I'll punch you in the fucking head.

            by HollywoodOz on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:47:04 PM PDT

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            •  Judy's spam is the first spam I ever loved (4.00 / 2)

              Or at least never wanted to get rid of (sortof)

              In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

              by yet another liberal on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:59:55 PM PDT

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              •  Hey, I dig the message. (4.00 / 5)

                But the way it is delivered makes me grind my teeth. Do a diary with the info, get it recommended, set up a website and put the URL in your sig - fine.

                But spamming every single thread and diary with the same message is wrong, no matter how you slice it.

                Fool me once, I'll punch you in the fucking head.

                by HollywoodOz on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 06:01:26 PM PDT

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                •  I know (4.00 / 2)

                  But this particular diary is in context I would think.  Yeah, she's probably over doing it.  Who am I to say.  Go Judy, you know what you're doing.

                  In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

                  by yet another liberal on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 06:05:43 PM PDT

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                  •  Judy has some sort of search alert (4.00 / 5)

                    because it is EVERY diary that contains the name "Alito" and up until recently it was the exact same message AND it is always the second or third comment in the diary.  I haven't given her a zero, but I am really tired of having to scroll through the same message that appears to be auto-generated based on its timing, appearance and content in every Alito diary for the past many weeks.
                •  Please justify (none / 1)

                  the zeroes you have given this user.
                  •  I'm glad you asked. (4.00 / 4)

                    What if we had bots?

                    Bots and robotrons that randomly posted messeges of the day throughout all Diaries?
                    Or even auto-diary bots?

                    Diary bots.

                    Strolling through the Internets.
                    Posting their botlike comments of the day.

                    I think there's something to be said that comments and  Diaries shouldn't be cut and paste wallpaper.

                    Next issue:

                    This comment/spam was posted in an Alito related "suicide" Diary yesterday, it turned out to a sick joke, but it was obvious the poster didn't know shit about the Diary, only that it had "Alito" in it:
                    Suicide Diary

                    Which, in my opinion, that Diarist should have been banned. A fake GBCW suicide Diary.
                    On Yahoo or any other chat room, the Police would have been called. This crap ain't funny.
                    (so stop laughing - you, you and you)
                    Somethiing like this could and would bring down this site. It's morally negligent not torespond to a suicide call.

                    Now look, if people have been banned in the past for "tin-foil" Diaries or even recommending such Diaries, then how are anti-semite and racist Diaries allowed to be posted? (film nuts)
                    Speculation is worse then hate crimes on Kos?
                    I hope that isn't true ... Kos.

                  •  ZappoDave is spot on. (4.00 / 3)

                    But I'll take it further. The rules of dKos say you don't spam the same message in multiple threads. This poster is doing that.

                    The rules of netiquette say you don't spam a message to a diary you haven't read. This post does that.

                    The rules of common sense say, if you have a message you want to spread, you write a diary about it and let people read it in due course. This poster not only puts her 'diary' in every single thread, but she's also written diaries with the same message - multiple diaries.

                    She may have the best of intentions, but she's been asked to stop, she refuses to do so, reasoning that 'some people haven't seen my message', and that, my friends, is trollish behavior.

                    I'll give a zero to every single Alito post she makes if it's similar to the last 100.

                    Fool me once, I'll punch you in the fucking head.

                    by HollywoodOz on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:45:46 PM PDT

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                    •  thanks (none / 0)

                      just curious
                      •  Waaaa Waaaa Waaa (none / 0)

                        You must think very little of the information presented if the sacred Kos posting rules override the fact that not everyone has the time available to read through every diary, and finds the information presented more topical and important than your twitching over encountering it in every Alito thread.

                        That's the case for me; I'm only alighting here  for a moment, as during the work day, I have demands placed on my time.

                        I'm glad that "spam" is contained in this diary.
                        Maybe if you did what you lament others aren't doing, and put up a diary with the information, I wouldn't have to write snarky responses.

                        •  Huh? (none / 0)

                          Why the hell are you blasting ME? All I did was ask what was going on. I always question a zero rating if I don't understand it.
                          Please redirect your "snarky response" to the ones lodging the objection to judybrowni's material. I be neutral and shit. Switzerland. I like chocolate. And yodeling. And tricked out pocketknives. And FN FALs. And cheese with holes in it.
                          And pie.
                          •  If you disagree with a zero rating (none / 0)

                            Usually the best thing to do is to just give the comment a 3 or 4 yourself and let things average out.  Unless, of course, you're trying for the endless commenting on something not very important which of course I'm participating in myself.  Phew!

                            In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

                            by yet another liberal on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 11:18:11 AM PDT

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                        •  Oh, how nice for you... (none / 0)

                          ...that in the five minutes you can spare to be informed, the information you need is right there in front of you, no matter what diary you look at. That must be wonderful, for the world to revolve around you.

                          OR... maybe the spambot could write a diary with the information, and people could recommend it to the front page. Or maybe the powers that be could manually move it to the front page, so you, and your tiny moment of attention, could find it without having to click the tag button and type 'alito'.

                          But no. Instead of writing one diary, this person wrote duplicate diaries - almost word for word the same - and posted the same identical message in over 100 threads, some of which were on topics such as suicide and abortion experiences.

                          But hey, let's not fret if dKos becomes a place where it's okay to spam your message across the board - as long as YOU can find it in any thread you happen to glance at, the world will be a happy, functional place.

                          Fool me once, I'll punch you in the fucking head.

                          by HollywoodOz on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 11:56:13 AM PDT

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              •  meaning (4.00 / 5)

                while anything repetetive can become annoying to me or you she's doing what she's doing because it's an important thing to do

                In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

                by yet another liberal on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 06:03:35 PM PDT

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                •  And I understand that too (none / 0)

                  but what if this response - was an "auto-response" that picked up "liberal" in your handle and posted a comment you might be responsive to?
                  •  But believe it or not.... (none / 0)

                    I read on another thread a post from someone complaining that nobody on KOS is advocating for fillibuster...so even though you and I have seen this judibrowni thing when we close our eyes at night...what the hay, some people have missed it!!
                    go figure...

                    Politics is like driving...if you want to go backwards, choose R. If you want to move forward, choose D.

                    by fireflynw on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:14:34 PM PDT

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                •  True but (none / 1)

                  Her spam posts are still wrong, also.

                  It's not BOB SMITH, it's GORDON SMITH from Oregon.

                  But her stuff floods out threads and gives some false concepts.  We don't need people from say, Utah jamming the phone lines in CA.  Voters in that state need to contact their senator and get through rather then their staff dealing with people from other states who they don't represent.

            •  You who rated me zero... (3.25 / 4)

              ..are an absolute disgrace.

              Either you're unaware that spamming multiple threads is against the dKos rules, or you don't care. Fine, but troll-rating me because I'm trying to enforce the rules, the same rules that keep this place from degenerating into chaos, is the height of stupidity and childishness.

              You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

              Fool me once, I'll punch you in the fucking head.

              by HollywoodOz on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 10:36:35 AM PDT

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              •  Never had that problem here (none / 0)

                So, Thank you for being the rules enforceer. I'm sure it must have been really serious and ugly before you got here.

                A 4 since you seem to really value numbers on a computer screen as an expression of worth.

                Or is it a coincidence that if you hit the Shift key and the 4 key, you get "$" ?

                •  It's not about numbers... (none / 0)

                  ..it's about losing Trusted User status.

                  And just so you understand how a blog community works, it's self regulating. That is, people like us are supposed to keep things from getting to the point where everyone puts their pet causes above the good of the site.

                  And if every thread contains the same posts as every other, the site will suffer.

                  Fool me once, I'll punch you in the fucking head.

                  by HollywoodOz on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 11:40:48 AM PDT

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            •  Can somebody explain (none / 0)

              why it's worth contacting those who have already annouced publicly that they will vote yes? I think it is a wasted effort, better spent with those who said they will vote no, but might also vote for cloture.
              •  It's called pressure (none / 0)

                Rethugs do it with money and threats. We do it with numbers and conviction. No wonder we lose so often. But hey, we Dems are all notorious flip-floppers, right?

                On Liberation Day, 1/20/09, Americans will greet us with flowers and candy

                by kamarvt on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 05:59:27 AM PDT

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            •  My email to Byrd (none / 1)

              Dear Senator Byrd,

              I am speaking to you as one of the People of these United States.

              I listened to you speak on CSPAN. First about miners, and how 14 deaths and 276 safety violations deserve our outrage and call for something to be done, but this has been going on forever and once the cameras are gone people forget and do nothing.

              Then I listened to you speak about Mrs. Alito and how you had received a large number of notes written in pencil on lined paper, and how that sort of message impressed you more than something cut and paste into an email. People you knew were outraged at the loss of civility.

              Then you spoke about Mrs Alito's husband how you liked conservative justices and came from a conservative state and had talked to him and found him a decent and competent man and believed he would preserve protect and defend the constitution as he says. !!!. Suddenly it was dark and hard to breath...

              I am hoping that we will be rescued from this cave in, and that Monday at 4:30 you will be at Randall McCloy's bedside welcoming him back to the world he almost left and not voting for cloture.

              I know that you probably are much more aware than I will ever be of separation of powers issues. This advocacy of the unitary executive theory written by Alito allowing one man to set himself above the law and to act as a tyrant scares most Americans more than any terrorist attack.

              To give one man, one not particularly bright or competent man, power to declare war without consultation with congress  worries us. To allow this one man to break the law at will, and because he deems it necessary, to kidnap, torture, murder, hold without due process, and subject Americans to unreasonable searches and seizures is equivalent to declaring war on the constitution and the bill of rights and the nation it binds together.

              This vote on Alito is not just about a judge. Its a line drawn in the sand that says the American People do not approve of these things.

              Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Impeach, Incarcerate

              by rktect on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 05:38:44 AM PDT

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            •  My letter to Salazar (none / 1)

              Dear Senator Salazar,

              I am writing to you as one of the American People.

              Our founding fathers gave their lives to fight for what they believed in. Right now our troops are giving their lives and body parts to preserve, protect and defend the constitution.

              Of all the many reasons you gave to vote NO on Alito the ones which resonate the most with me speak to the qualifications of being a judge.

              A judge should be possessed of good judgement, a strong moral compass, the ability to tell right from wrong and be possessed of an awareness that we are a nation of laws and that no one man is above them.

              That a judge has so little of these qualities as to be able to justify the strip search of a ten year old girl is more than just troubling, its revealing.

              That a judge can find necessity or even convenience sufficient grounds to allow a president to set aside the law and declare war without consulting with congress, and to kidnap, torture, murder, and hold without due process and subject Americans to unreasonable searches and seizures is terrifying.

              Indeed we find it more terrifying that one man, one not particularly bright or competent man, should be granted the power to set himself up above the law, and given the power to declare war without consulting with congress than any threat of an airplane flying through our window.

              President Bush is already saying that because of what Alito has written, he has the power whenever he deems it necessary, to set aside the law and to kidnap, torture, murder, hold prisoner without die process, and subject the American People to unreasonable searches and seizures.

              We need you to stand firm with us and having voted No on Alito for the reasons you gave, not vote for cloture.

              This is an important issue to all of the American People. Alito's theory of the unitary executive amounts to a Declaration of War on the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
              Its time to put it on the line and stand up.

              Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Impeach, Incarcerate

              by rktect on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 06:20:23 AM PDT

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          •  Don't Forget Hilary (none / 0)

            According to her phone answerers, Hilary Clinton also plans to vote 'no' to Alito but refuses to support a filibuster.

            Her office phone is (202) 224-4451.

            Try to convince her that even if we can't stave off cloture, her support of a filibuster sends a powerful message.

        •  Wrong name (none / 0)

          Oregon's Repub senator is Gordon Smith, not Bob Smith.

          this message is intended to inform. any annoyance, abuse, threat, or harassment is solely in the perception of the reader, not the intention of the poster.

          by horsewithnoname on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:03:27 PM PDT

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          •  Judy is thinking of Bob Smith from NH (none / 0)

            I'll wager ----

            the ex-Senator from the GOP who went Independent, and who endorsed John Kerry in 2004!

            Bob's in retirement now in Florida.

             

            McCain just flushed his own campaign by his appearance at the FBF on Aug 16th, 2008.

            by shpilk on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:53:37 PM PDT

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        •  Mainers: Need to call Senators Now! (4.00 / 2)

          Sen. Susan Collins has announced she will vote Yes on Alito.
          I just returned from a Town Hall meeting that was supposed to be with staffers from both Senators, but Collins decided not to send hers.
          Snowe's rep said she was still "undecided" as of 7 PM EST, but keeping a close tally of the calls coming in to all of her offices.
          Tell everyone you know in Maine to call these 2 supposed pro-choice, "moderate" Repubs. Hit the local offices especially!

          Snowe: 202-224-5344 (DC); 207-874-0883 (Portland); 207-786-2451 (Auburn); 207-945-0432 (Bangor)
          Collins: 202-225-6306(DC);207-782-3704(Lewiston); 207-942-6935 (Bangor).

          •  Correct Numbers for Collins (none / 0)

            Oops - too late at night to be typing.
            The correct numbers for Susan Collins are:
            202-224-2523 (DC); 207-780-3575 (Portland) 207-945-0417 (Bangor); 207-784-6969 (Lewiston).
          •  A Mainer here (none / 0)

            and I will be calling Snowe's office tommorow and asking ALL of my friends to do the same. I know a few organizers in my hometown.. and LOTS of Democrats who are active.. we will do our best to create a mini-firestorm.

            Also, the most serious candidate, Eric Mehnert, who is running against Snowe has half-heartedly mentioned this issue on his web site. I have all day off tommorow, and in addition to calling Snowe (and Collins) I want our guy Mehnert to make an issue out of this- Which is higher priority for Snowe, toeing the GOP line or listening to the Mainers that voted for her?

            Any other Mainers around? Go to Mehnerts site and volunteer! We have to stir up Mehnert. I know Snowe is the most popular senator in the country but god damn... this is a blue state entirely (except for the senators,) this is a perfect issue for Mehnert to take up and help us with. If he has any chance at anything at all it is right here and now, and either way, he's a good ally in the Alito skirmish.

            I would love so much if we could shock the hell out of the rest of the country and put up a stand against Snowe in 06- and you'd think with such an entrenched Dem infrastructure here already and solid base of voters we could put a fight. I acknowledge how tough/unrealistic it may be, but that doesn't mean that no fight should be put up.

            I think we can really do something here and that a large amount of pressure should get focused on Snowe specifically by anyone who can reasonably afford to do it. When you call your local senators, please also call Snowe as well. Let's not let her think she can take her approval rating to the bank on Alito.

            •  I'm trying (none / 0)

              to get my mother in law and her brother (Ken Curtis former Governor of Maine) to call.  I own land in Leeds and I'm going to call Collins

              "Mercy, peace and love be yours in abundance (liberally)" Jude 2 Brother of Jesus

              by pinkpanther on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 06:38:55 AM PDT

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        •  This is a myopic demand. (none / 0)

          The litmus test should be "NO" in an Up-and-Down vote. By no means am I not going to consider supporting Feingold in 2008 because he didn't lead a filibuster now.

          You can't get a filibuster going, if you can't get Democrats to stand up in a party-line vote.

          That's what Americans expect. More you can't muster.

          This is, I repeat, MYOPIC!

          I reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks in Sozadee CA.

          by The Messenger on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 07:12:17 AM PDT

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        •  Obama is working against the filibuster (none / 0)

          Word is out...please call Obama's office.  The fallen hero continues to fight the people.

          Can he be persuaded?  I don't know.  He definitely knows what he is doing, and he thinks his ethnicity gives him cover.

          Please call:

          (202) 224-2854 in dc
          (312) 886-3506 in chi

      •  Proud! (4.00 / 16)

        I echo these sentiments absolutely.

        Senator Kerry, I felt you made a mistake in the 2004 campaign by not taking the national security fight to Bush. I thought you should have put him on the defensive on what he took for granted as his main strength.

        That having been said, I remain proud to have voted for you.  I disagree completely with those who believe any other Democrat would have had a better chance than you.  You are a smart, tough man and you would have been a great president.  You may still be.  If you run again, you have my vote.

        Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

      •  Ditto that (4.00 / 9)

        You have done the right thing, Senator, in calling for this filibuster. Installing Alito as a SCJ is terrifying to me.  Bush has pretty much gone unchecked in his "interpretation" of the presidency and I fear Alito will only add to the runaway train we know as the Bush Administration.  I, too, am proud to have voted for you.
      •  Filibustering *is* the right thing to do (none / 0)

        But if this move has messed up any plan of Reid's, I swear I will work to make sure Kerry never wins another election.
        •  what kind of (none / 0)

          "plan of Reid's", do you think?  if he's not sharing that plan with other Democratic Senators, then shame on him...and if he DID share some kind of plan (like, not talk about a filibuster, then suprise the Republicans maybe?), then shame on Kerry....maybe..

          "I don't have a problem with change, I just don't want to be there when it happens." - Adrian Monk

          by betsyross on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 06:49:37 PM PDT

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          •  I'm hoping that it is part of the plan (none / 0)

            I'm no boxer - but don't sometimes you make a feint with one hand before jabbing with the other? Reid (and Kerry) may both be in a position where it's not clear to them how to win but they know they have to fight.

            But if it does turn out that Kerry is working at cross purposes with Reid I'll be very disappointed and angry.

      •  Agree... (none / 1)

        Filibustering Alito is right.

        The "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" story's message would not change if Mr. Smith failed. Not that much, at least.

        The story is about a stand for principle.

        Certainly--considering, for instance, the long term strategy--pulling some political jockeying might have a certain effect. But standing up to be counted even when you lose matters, also. Think about how much weight Feingold gets around here for his vote WRT the Iraq War and USAPATRIOT Act--and rightly so! But he was on the losing side both times. He was just correct and losing.

        Better to be on the side of truth and losers than untruth and winners. No (or at best: little) point in joining the winning side just to be winning, in my view.

        The Shapeshifter's Blog -- Politics, Philosophy, and Madness!

        by Shapeshifter on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:45:36 PM PDT

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      •  I am also proud of you (none / 0)

        I expected you to show leadership in fighting against Alito. This diary renews a small amount of hope that a filibuster will happen.

        -4.00, -5.33 Strange Bedfellows Money Bomb: August 8, 2008 Civil liberties is not a purity issue.

        by 4jkb4ia on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 07:04:16 AM PDT

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    •  Give 'em hell! (4.00 / 3)

      Scalito=wrong for the country.  

      Thank you Senator Kerry!

      Fox News--As fair as a Florida Election, as balanced as Ann Coulter when she forgets to take her medicine.

      by Dizzy on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:05:53 PM PDT

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    •  Fifty-some million Americas should support you (4.00 / 8)

           here, just as they did in November 2004.

           Heck, all real Americans should support you.

           Go JFK! You are the JFK for our generation! Filibuster Alito!!!!!

    •  Go John Go , and Keep Going (none / 1)

      You've come a long way, Senator Kerry.

      Thank you for coming to engage us on this site.

      Thank you for leading the fight against Alito in the Senate.

      But please, go a little further.  Talk to us candidly:  tell us who to call.  Share, honestly, your political assessment of our chances, and let us know who to focus our efforts on.

      Become a grassroot, Senator Kerry, and join us not as a general shouting through a megaphone but let us join you, alongside you and the other courageous Dem Seantors, hand-in-hand in this fight.  

    •  Filibuster Alito (none / 0)

      Senator, you need to get the other Senators on board for this action...we need a full frontal Democratic stand. If they won't stand up for this, they won't stand up for anything. You Senators are our voices and you represent us...

      Nothing less than our system of Democracy and our Constitution is at stake. I have made my calls and faxes...you're up!

      I will not support anyone or any party who does not care enough about this.

      Good Luck!

      I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere ~ Thomas Jefferson

      by valadon on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:35:35 PM PDT

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    •  Senator Kerry: (4.00 / 3)

      1. I am glad to see you field a filibuster and thank you for the same.

      2. It would 've been better to do this a few days earlier. Even a day or two earlier would've made a big difference. But no matter, better late than never.

      3. The key points to drive home (to the public) are these (as I compiled here. more links in that diary).

      The powder IS Dry: A 4-Point case for an Alito filibuster
      1. Alito's support for the unitary executive fringe theory (as was pointed out eloquently by Al Gore in his historic DAR speech) attempts to give extra-constitutional powers to the the executive branch.
      2. Alito's disposition appearing contrary to the principle of one person, one vote
      3. His possible support for overturning Roe V. Wade, a chance which can not be taken given that this is a life time appointment.
      4. His 1985 memo in which he has recently apparently admitted to have colored the truth in order to land a job. If he did so at the none-too-formative age of 35, why should his recent testimony be taken at its face value? One should judge how he would rule as a SC justice by examining his long standing judicial record and public statements instead.

      1. Re. Harriet Miers, it is my strong hunch that the Miers nomination was simply a smoke screen, a decoy tactic, that was designed to blunt the impact of Fitzgerald indictments. As you will note, the nomination was withdrawn the day after Fitz announced his indictment of Scooter Libby.

      2. Most of the polls on Alito confirmation have been  by the rightwing-freindly pollsters. But there was a poll by Harris from December at this link. Here were that poll's findings:

      Almost equal thirds of all adults believe Judge Alito should be confirmed (34%), should not be confirmed (31%) or are not sure (34%). However, a majority of Republicans (65% vs. 9%) favor his confirmation, while a plurality of Democrats (48% vs. 14%) oppose it. Independents are split (34% for confirmation; 38% against).

      Opposition to the confirmation of Judge Alito would probably grow substantially if most people believed he would vote to make abortion illegal. A 69 to 31 percent majority of the public say they would oppose his confirmation if they thought he would vote to make abortion illegal. Majorities of Democrats (86%) and Independents (74%) feel this way. However, a majority of Republicans (56% vs. 44%) would support his confirmation if they believed he would vote to make abortion illegal.


      The numbers probably shifted in Alito's favor after the hearings, but the indications are that they only did so in single digits, which doesn't change the 69% oppose/31% support parity under the premise of Roe V. Wade being in jeopardy.

      Note also that fewer Republicans are unsure compared to Democrats and Independents in this and other polls, which skews the net result in favor of the Republican viewpoint on the matter.

    •  Just take them the NAACP Legal Defense Fund Papers (4.00 / 4)

      Take it to them, and make them read it. (link)

      Have Senator Kennedy take the CAP publications to them, and make them read it.

      Then make them vote.

      It's sad it must be said, but you have to shame them into voting against the nominee most hostile to civil rights in a generation.

      -Hope never cost Corporate America a dime -Somebody blow Bush so we can impeach him already.

      by DWCG on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 06:27:29 PM PDT

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    •  Fight the Fight????? (none / 0)

      Don't worry, fight is not offensive at all.
    •  Yes, we do (none / 0)

      I was proud to vote for Sen. Kerry in 2004.
    •  Senator, OT--please run for MA Gov. (none / 0)

      Create a perfect Blue State--a microcosm of what the country should be--subsidized health care, high level of public education, etc., using the full power of States' Rights.
      Let's show them what a Dem model gov't looks like and fill the red staters with envy--a shining beacon on the hill!

      Please, please, please, please, please, please

      Fla will be blue...

      by skywalker on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 06:38:20 AM PDT

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  •  Are the numbers there for a filibuster to be (4.00 / 4)

    successful? Who needs prodding?

    It's a neighborly day in this beautywood. Relentless!

    by ablington on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 04:28:27 PM PDT

    •  Successful? (4.00 / 4)

      Even if it's not successful, it makes a powerful statement about who we are and what we are willing to accept, even from these lunatics.

      NO FREE RIDES!

      "I'm not a member of any organized political party, ... I'm a Democrat." Will Rodgers

      by CCSDem on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 04:35:38 PM PDT

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    •  Please take this message to TV, Senator (4.00 / 17)

      I have to think there will be a groundswell of support once the word "Filibuster" enters public discourse.  

      There are numerous Bush administration policies, of course, that the US public would like to filibuster.  I am convinced the opportunity to block just one will galvanize progressives, moderates and independents who are convinced the Bush White House poses significant dangers to the nation and our rule of law.

    •  Are the Dems being deceitful? (4.00 / 7)

      If the Republicans think that the Dems have the numbers on their side to prevent a vote for cloture, they'll be doing even more arm-twisting, conniving, and squirming.  

      Perhaps (and this is just wishful thinking) the Dem senators that don't back a filibuster are just saying that to keep the Republicans from being on their guard.

      When the vote for cloture comes up, that's when we'll see the true colors of our elected officials.  

      It's time to call this bluff.  Whether they have the numbers or not, we need to stand up for what we believe in.

      "I believe in compulsory cannibalism. If people were forced to eat what they kill, there would be no more wars." - Abbie Hoffman

      by Jensequitur on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:01:23 PM PDT

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      •  Great post (4.00 / 10)

        Get these bastards on the record.

        On a side note.  It is becoming increasingly obvious to me that we are engaged in a civil war with the media.   We have to continue to challenge them EVERY time they parrot a GOP talking point.  Make them fear our side's screaming as much as they fear that of the right.  This poll on Kerry on CNN is total bullshit, and Katie Couric this morning makes me want to puke.

        From now on, we go after this shit aggressively.

        It is my new year's resolution.  I will phone the networks every friggin day if I have to.

        I hated Bush before it was cool.

        by daveriegel on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:06:13 PM PDT

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        •  We absolutely are at war with the media- (4.00 / 9)

          read Daou's treatise on this.  The Katie Couric-Dean interaction was a good example.

          It's not even subtle any more.

          I'm beginning to think that in order to be a big time television "journalist" nowadays, you basically have to forgo being a real journalist and agree to become The Company Spokesperson.

          You have to LOOK like you are being a journalist, but you are to stick to the spoken or unspoken parameters and platitudes.  

          It's hard for me to comprehend how so many otherwise intelligent people could simply shelve their consciences and sit there like sheep while these political mafiosos lie to them.  

          The Republicans play this card again and again and it always seems to bring them luck - people will do just about anything for money, power, and access.

          "There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." - Gandhi

          by hopesprings on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 05:24:36 PM PDT

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        •  It's what needs to be done (