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Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:23:26 PM PDT

Even the junkiest of the political junkies likely haven't heard of the PFIAB.  It's the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB).  Established in 1956 by President Eisenhower, it was originally called the "President's Board of Consultants on Foreign Intelligence Activities."  The PFIAB is, according to the White House website, "a nonpartisan body offering the President objective, expert advice on the conduct of U.S. foreign intelligence."   Non-partisan and expert advice.  

A sub-unit of the PFIAB is the "Intelligence Oversight Board," which "advises the President on the legality of foreign intelligence activities."  Non-partisan, expert, legal oversight. Sounds great! It is the FIAB that acts as one of the most objective and trusted confidants when it comes to the President ordering foreign intelligence activity.  

PFIAB members get unprecedented access to our nation's most closely gaurded secrets. They have, according to Salon, "access to intelligence that is unavailable to most members of Congress. They are privy to intelligence from the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the military intelligence agencies and others."

Who are the members of the President's FIAB? Brace yourselves. The list of people Bush selected to give him "non-partisan," "expert," and "objective" legal advice on his foreign intelligence activities reads almost like a list of his Rangers & Pioneers, or a list of invitees at the Bush-Cheney '04 victory party. Actually, it reads a lot like that list.  

While previous Presidents have made the names of their foreign intelligence advisors public, Bush has tried to keep his secret. Only after some prying by David Corn back in 2002 did some names slip out. And as of 2005, courtesy of Salon, we see how Bush's cronyism rots the very core of our national security.

Here's the list, in 2002, at the time the domestic spying program was ordered and well under way. Drum roll please....

  • Brent Scowcroft: national security adviser to President Bush I. Scowcroft heads the Scowcroft Group which "sells intelligence and other services to globe-trotting corporations."
  • Pete Wilson: former GOP Senator, Governor.
  • Cresencio Arcos: AT&T executive and former US ambassador.
  • Jim Barksdale: former head of Netscape.
  • Robert Addison Day: chairman of the TWC Group, a money management firm, Bush Pioneer.
  • William DeWitt: Ohio businessman, Bush Pioneer, top fund-raiser for Bush's 2004 Inaugural committee, former partner with Bush in the Texas Rangers baseball team.
  • Stephen Friedman: past chairman of Goldman Sachs.
  • Alfred Lerner: chief executive of MBNA.
  • Ray Lee Hunt: super-rich Texas oil man, Bush Pioneer, finance chairman of the Republican National Committee, Halliburton Board of Directors.
  • Rita Hauser: "a prominent lawyer and longtime advocate of Israeli-Palestinian reconciliation."
  • David Jeremiah: retired admiral.
  • Arnold Kanter: national security official under Bush I, founding member of the Scowcroft Group.
  • James Calhoun Langdon, Jr.: "a power-lawyer in Texas," Bush Pioneer, Washington lobbyist.
  • Elisabeth Pate-Cornell: head of industrial engineering and engineering management at Stanford University.
  • John Harrison Streicker: a "real estate magnate."
  • Philip Zelikow: National Security Council staffer during Bush I.

How many names do you count that seem qualified to analyze the most sensitive of our nation's secrets, AND to pass judgment on the constitutionality of the President's actions? Five? Four? Three? Out of sixteen?

Recently, Bush shuffled the deck a bit. After Scowcroft spoke out against the Bush administration ("Sharon just has [Bush] wrapped around his little finger...I think the president is mesmerized.") and after criticizing the President's Iraq policy, Scowcroft was swiftly replaced(along with some others). New names include Arthur Culvahouse, former U.S. congressman, and Lee Hamilton, 9/11 Commission Vice-Chairman, former Commerce Secretary Donald Evans, Admiral James O. Ellis,  and  Stefanie Osburn, former Chief of Staff for the Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Management at the Central Intelligence Agency. You can view the full list here. Update [2006-1-27 0:46:8 by georgia10]: Obviously, the 2005 slate is much more qualified than that which prevailed during the implementation of the domestic spying prorgam. However, Bush's Pioneers Hunt & Dewine, you'll notice, are still on the list. At last word, the President has chosen to leave 4 of the 16 seats empty.  

The historical role of the PFIAB cannot be underscored enough.  It has the ability to look into the most controversial aspects of our intelligence. For example, after the flurry of controversy about the 16 words in Bush's SOTU speech, it was the PFIAB that was the first government body to conclude the claim was "questionable"--though it did blame the insertion on the lack of "an organized system at the White House to vet intelligence."

As for the latest slate of PFIAB members, this is the reaction:

Ray Close, a member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, a group that has been critical of the Bush administration's handling of intelligence matters, doesn't mince words when discussing Bush's latest appointments to the PFIAB. "It's unbelievable," says Close, who worked for the CIA for 27 years as an Arabist. "I can't imagine anyone who has the president's interest in mind allowing him to do this. With the notable exception of Lee Hamilton, most of the choices look very weak, and several scream of cronyism."

As the Salon article notes, even Clinton appointed a couple big donors to his PFIAB. Yet Clinton's panel "had far more intelligence expertise," boasting a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staffs and a Secretary of Defense in its membership.

But, as we've sadly come to realize, Bush's takes "cronyism" to an unprecedented level. The President has rejected a check on his power when he ignored FISA. His view of the unitary executive essentially removes all checks from the legislative and executive branches. And as for this last iota of objectivity? The "non-partisan" and "expert" panel which is supposed to advise the President on the legality of his foreign intelligence actions?  It's unclear what advice they gave the President, if they were even informed of the program at all (presumably, they should have been). But what is clear is that this is the FEMA-ization of our national security. It's not just our safety, but our civil liberties which were entrusted to a panel reeking of cronyism, incompetence, and inherent unreliability.

Any guesses as to which reporter will be the first to ask Bush about the Intelligence Oversight Board and the PFIAB? If they ask him about it at all, that is...

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  •  totally off-topic but (none / 0)

    can anyone tell me how to get in touch w/ the person or people who made the trollhouse cookbook?

    thanks.

    Sorry Georgia! I did read the diary too.

  •  aren't you a bit premature (none / 1)

    when you say
    even Clinton appointed a couple big donors to her PFIAB
    ?

    Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH! If impeachment is off the table, so is democracy

    by teacherken on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:26:01 PM PDT

  •  More cronies and neocons? Who'd have guessed! n/t (none / 0)

    Everything is funny as long as it is happening to somebody else. --Will Rogers

    by groggy on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:26:31 PM PDT

  •  Great research and analysis (none / 0)

    You're the best, Georgia.

    Let's see if we can get this out there.

    •  yeah (none / 0)

      My next questions,

      what other importants boards are being stuffed with Bush cronies?

      first suspecion:

      1. anything with industrial/public safety
      2. Public health that results in big pharma contracts
      3. environmentals regulations
      4. military spending oversight
      5. anything related to electing judges
      6. Foreign relations officers, anything involving money/big business
      7. public ethics, investigations, etc.

      These people should be put in jail NOW.

      They keep eroding the system. The effect will be 5-10 years down the road.

      Use Tor and PGP on the net. (google it)

      by fugue on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 03:29:14 AM PDT

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      •  Bush's Civil Rights Commission is stacked (none / 0)

        CCC, article from yesterday - uses ePmedia's research and article as a cite:

        http://biz.yahoo.com/...

        Members of the Civil Rights Commission are four Bush-appointed republicans, two democrats, and one independent, Abigail Thernstrom, the Vice Chair. Evidence exists that former republican Mrs. Thernstrom changed her party after the president nominated a fifth republican to the Commission (http://www.epluribusmedia.org/...). The law prohibits the installation of any more than four members of one party. Five members of the Commission constitute a quorum.
  •  Addl info on Bill DeWitt (none / 0)

    He is also the current owner of the St. Louis Cardinals. And has connections to new Cincinnati Red ownership.

    "There is no god, and I am his prophet." SocraticGadfly

    by steverino on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:31:05 PM PDT

    •  beat me to it (none / 0)

      DeWitt is more like the leader of a group of owners of the Cards. I don't recall if that's because he has a majority interest or if it's because the group delegated that to him. I do know that he is notable for being a Republican big money guy in a fairly liberal town.

      DeWitt does not strike me as the type who is terribly interested in geopolitics, although I could be wrong. He does strike me as being a behind-the-scenes type. I was surprised to see him on this list, even knowing he was a major Bush fundraiser.

  •  Gee...you mean it IS NOT a good idea (4.00 / 2)

    to just appoint random big-money donors to positions where they may actually need some background in intelligence?

    I dunno Georgia...I bet MBNA and AT&T (whoever recently bought them out...wasn't it SBC?) are helping out in the war on terra...I'm SURE the NSA finds the credit card statements and phone and internet statements helpful...

    this list says exactly what Bush is all about...

    MONEY.

    That's ALL he fucking cares about.

  •  Did I miss something? (none / 0)

    A "power lawyer" and an (??) international relations lawyer are the two legal minds deciding Constitutional questions?  I wish I could say it was unbelievable.  

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

    by BarbinMD on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:33:00 PM PDT

    •  Just wait... (none / 1)

      ...Jenna and Not-Jenna, up in the next round of appointments.
    •  Rita Hauser (none / 1)

      is a terrific lawyer.  I notice that Bush kicked her off in 2004, probably because Rita speaks her mind.  She was a senior partner at Stroock, my former firm, when I was just an associate. In fact, she

      I worked on several matters for her.  She's brilliant, and an expert in international law.  She certainly isn't a neocon, nor is she a lap dog. For a tiny lady, she always took over a room when she walked in. I am sure that the neocons  loathed her.

      I'm glad for her that she no longer has to put up with the idiots.  And yes, she COULD give a constitutional analysis if asked, and I can't imagine Rita going along with the eavesdropping plan, which I bet is why she is no longer a member.  Too bad - if the President had kept her on, she might have introduced him to reality.

      We do not rent rooms to Republicans.

      by Mary Julia on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:04:25 PM PDT

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  •  We count Lee Hamilton as a Bush crony now? (none / 0)

  •  Who'll ask? (none / 0)

    Does Salon have a reporter who gets to question the President, or even Scott McClellan?  Probably not.  It seems as though to get into that inner circle a reporter has to have some sort of operation (perhaps a combined lobotomy and cojonectomy?) so he/she doesn't ask that kind of impolite question.

    This is a good piece of investigative reporting.  Why do reporters who've risen to the top, to earn the White House beat, waste time being stenographers for the daily BS the official spokesmen put out?  Why don't they go sniffing around and dig up stuff like this?  

    We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

    by david78209 on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:33:06 PM PDT

    •  Access (none / 0)

      georgia (likely, not 100% sure though) isn't trying to get invites to big things - gala events, behind the scenes negotiations, late night phone calls to meet in a park, and invites to black-tie state events.

      Reporters are people, and they comfortable.  If you get a WH beat, move to DC, and then can shut out, you will be replaced. Than what?  You gotta move again.

      It all comes down to access.

  •  Outstanding! Simply outstanding! (none / 0)

  •  Oh my (none / 0)

    had far more intelligence expertise

    That's probably because Bush appointed the guy that fixes his wood-chipper.

    •  no no no (none / 0)

      Bush doesn't use a wood chipper!  He cuts up every piece of scrub into little tiny pieces with a machete because that's what real men do!

      Heh.

      On topic, cronyism is just too kind a word.  We need a new one.  Perhaps we could say that the President is "bushing" the institutions that are supposed to provide clear-minded in complex situations.

      "This is our moment, this is our time." - John Edwards, 5/14/2008
      Go Democrats Go!

      by socratic on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:41:01 PM PDT

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  •  cronyism? unqualified? (none / 0)

    i am shocked, shocked, i tell you...

    </smartass>

    i'll step up to say thank you for enlightening me/us. i had not previously heard of the pfiab, let alone appreciating the gravity of their mission.

    Any guesses as to which reporter will be the first to ask Bush about the Intelligence Oversight Board and the PFIAB?

    it's a pretty thought to ponder on it: there's not enough glaze in the known universe to describe the look on mclellan's face were he to be faced with such an inquiry.  but i'm not holding my breath. this is equally as important as it is--by strained-meme media standards--obscure and unsexy.

    i only WISH we had a corporate media who'd deign to dig into this. instead, we get headlines that proclaim alito a done deal, and continue to give bush a pass on admitting to subverting the constitution with that party-on-dude-fratboy-smug-laden impunity of his.

    sigh.

    seriously, though, thank you for this--great stuff.

    Time for Miles to soothe me again, because jazz is the antibush. --zic

    by homo neurotic on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:40:59 PM PDT

    •  and do we know already what the answer will be? (4.00 / 2)

      Scottie The Press Pinata: "The president has the authority to appoint well qualified people to protect our country and help the American People...we've made that very clear...before 9/11...and now things are different and we have different people...you could direct your questions to the CIA...to protect the American people...9/11...War on Terra...War on Terra ...9/11..to do the important work of protecting the American People."

      Rush Limbaugh: "Clinton did it Clinton did it. Clinton did it."

      O'Lielly: "We don't want to know what all those people talk about over the telephone, when, you know, they're having very private conversations."

      Malkin: "Cronies. Whaddya mean cronies? These are people our President appointed and he knows what's best for the country and those pajama people out there in the shadows are Traitors. The president ought to send'em to Guantanamo with the rest of the Terrorists."

  •  Outstanding Info, Thanks. (none / 1)

    It's sad that Bush can find so many people who care so little about our country that they would take crucial jobs that they must know they can not perform.  

    What are they thinking?

    "You can tell the truth but you better have a fast horse." - Rita Mae Brown -8.38, -5.54

    by majcmb1 on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:43:16 PM PDT

  •  Which Reporter Will Break This Story? (none / 1)

    I'm betting on Rita Cosby.

    I mean, she's bound to run out of missing husbands on cruise ships eventually!

    •  Rita Crosby (none / 0)

      Hasn't beaten the white girl missing in Aruba horse enough.  She's gotta whack that baby a few more times before getting around to real news.

      Frankly I think she's just looking for stories that she can enjoy.  I mean c'mon, she was in Aruba for like a month, now she's on cruise ships?  Talk about hard reporting.  <manly voice> 'This is Rita Crosby reporting aboard the cruise ship CELEBRATION.  Hey can you get me another maragrita over here?!</manly voice>

  •  No wonder Osama is still out there (none / 1)

    Some of these guys are successful businessmen and one would think they must have some patriotic feelings.

    According to the WH website page, the mission of the PFIAB is;

    The President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB) provides advice to the President concerning the quality and adequacy of intelligence collection, of analysis and estimates, of counterintelligence, and of other intelligence activities. The PFIAB, through its Intelligence Oversight Board, also advises the President on the legality of foreign intelligence activities.

    The PFIAB currently has 16 members selected from among distinguished citizens outside the government who are qualified on the basis of achievement, experience, independence, and integrity.

    The Role of The Board

    Unique within the government, the PFIAB traditionally has been tasked with providing the President with an independent source of advice on the effectiveness with which the intelligence community is meeting the nation's intelligence needs and the vigor and insight with which the community plans for the future.

    So why would they allow their reputations to be so trashed by serving in such a critical function in a Global War on Terrorism that is so obviously a complete failure?

    Adm. David Jeremiah seems qualified.  Kanter and Zelikow are there to act as liason with the intelligence community but they are probably lightweights.

    The rest, in my book, are at best independent thinkers, at worst useless assholes who should know better than act as figureheads when they could be giving their post to real experts who could make a contribution.

    Scowcroft was qualified, but Bush got rid of him.

    Graet catch georgia10!

    My emphasis.

    Dailykos.com; an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action -1.75 -7.23

    by Shockwave on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:45:24 PM PDT

    •  I agree (4.00 / 2)

      I mean, compare the 2002 board (which serves, I believe, a 2 year term) to the 2005 board. Big, big difference.

      And I doubt the difference is due to Bush seeking better advice. Methinks he felt the heat...

    •  Gotta be fair here (4.00 / 2)

      Zelikow is no lightweight. I heard him speak once. He's a serious guy - quite brilliant. I don't agree with him, but he's not a placeholder.
      •  Zelikow seems like an interesting fellow (none / 0)

        Iraq was invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official

        Zelikow made his statements about "the unstated threat" during his tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports directly to the president. He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.

        "Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat [is] and actually has been since 1990 - it's the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on September 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the impact of September 11 and the future of the war on al-Qaeda.

        "And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.

        He seems to have the needed backgroud

        Then again, I trust Kristin Breitweiser's instincts, so he may be capable but very very evil, the fox guarding the henhouse;

           * Zelikow's regular job, the one he'll return to after the commission releases it final report in late July, is director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia. The center is dedicated to the study of the presidency, and maintains contact with the Bush White House, which fought the creation of the commission.

            Kristen Breitweiser, a 9/11 widow, insists Zelikow has a "clear conflict of interest." And she suspects he is in touch with Bush's political adviser, Rove, which she says would explain why the White House granted him, along with just one other commission official, the greatest access to the intelligence briefing Bush got a month before the 9/11 suicide hijackings.

        Dailykos.com; an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action -1.75 -7.23

        by Shockwave on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 12:10:15 AM PDT

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      •  Zelikow (none / 0)

        was executive director of the 9/11 Commission.
  •  I knew this already (none / 1)

    ..from my days as a super snoop..just another reason why I use fucking profanity so often in referring to all the Bush crap.

    But it is good to see it brought out for the rest of the public...

    Hypocrisy in anything may deceive the cleverest and most penetrating man, but the least wide-awake of children recognizes it....

    by Cal45 on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:45:46 PM PDT

    •  super snoop? (none / 1)

      intruiguing...

      knowing what the PFIAB is is like getting the Daily Double in Jeopardy.

      •  not really (4.00 / 2)

        .. you don't even have to be a super snoop you just have to have been watching since day one...and I was watching because I am so cynical I expected every single thing Bushco has done and they haven't surprised me yet.

        You remember when Bush appointed this guy in 2001?

        http://www.archives.gov/...

        Which caused a furor among reputable historians, 'the right to know advocates' and upset congress...for good reason because it led to this:

        Government Documents Increasingly Classified
         by Jackie Northam
        Morning Edition, September 8, 2005 · Government workers classified over 15 million documents last year, more than twice the number classified in 2001. The cost? About $7 billion.

        Now this is something I would like to see someone with the time dig into...the PFIAB appointments are just another crony joke compared to the real damage this crew is doing to our ability to ever get to the truth of what our government has done, is doing, ever again unless this is reversed. They are deliberately dismantling the recording of government actions and business. Rumor was at the time that records were were being outright destroyed and shredded under the excuse of overburdening the system.

        Hypocrisy in anything may deceive the cleverest and most penetrating man, but the least wide-awake of children recognizes it....

        by Cal45 on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 12:09:48 AM PDT

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        •  Erin Brokovitch (none / 1)

          We need something like that former employee who oops! failed to shred some documents and brought them home with him.

          Of all the cogs in the wheel, can't just one of them slip up a few times and let some of the this classified bullshit leak?

          Someone once challenged my assertion last year that BushCo is worse by far than Nixon.  I said "They've been doing this from Day One!  They have five years of dirty tricks, blackmail, and lord knows what else stuffed into closets, classified in cardboard boxes in warehouses and stored on hard drives.  Nixon started late and thought too small.  BushCo started in 2000 with the elections (even before that if you count the Clinton witchhunt) and has never stopped.".

          I contend if only a tenth of what BushCo has done illegally, immorally and unethically is exposed, they will be impeached and even a pardon won't save their asses from class action civil suits.

          Proud member of the Cult of Issues and Substance!

          by Fabian on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 09:10:34 AM PDT

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  •  Excellent job (none / 1)

    I was just starting to think "Brent Scowcroft isn't so bad...."

    then you point out they got rid of him

  •  FEMA? (none / 1)

    They should really change the name to FAME...
    Federal Agency with a Management Emergency.
  •  And you're probably asking yourself: (none / 0)

    Have things gotten so bad in this country taht even Arabian horses need a lawyers?

    The Great Obama might saw the lady in half, but he won't make the elephant disappear. The Confluence

    by RonK Seattle on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:01:49 PM PDT

  •  I wonder if (none / 0)

    any of thses guys play the stock market ? Talk about insider info ! Just a random thought. Thanks Georgia , great work !

    -8.63 -7.28 We all have to be concerned about terrorism, but you will never end terrorism by terrorizing others.~Martin Luther King III

    by OneCrankyDom on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:04:48 PM PDT

    •  That explains 'who' and 'why' (none / 0)

      since FISA covers wiretapping for suspected terrorists.  The ultimate in insider trading!  

      The Fink wants to be a King!

      by teresab on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:28:53 PM PDT

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    •  Helps in explaining why the AT&T/SBC (none / 0)

      merger moved along at such an expedited pace.  

      Funny thing that U.S. wiretapping with an AT&T officer on the board.  Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

      "Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they've stolen." Mort Sahl

      by maggiemae on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:45:09 PM PDT

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    •  more than that... (none / 0)

      look, everybody knows u.s. foreign policy has long been an arm of certain corporate bigwigs. think ITT & Chile.

      bush is a corpratist, but not very bright. what better way to make sure he serves his masters properly than put a bunch of them on a secret panel that oversees intelligence? his masters could use that intelligence themselves directly, or the intelligence could be used to direct for u.s. gov't policy that helps their interests.

      every time you think that something bush does is crazy and doesn't make sense, it just means you aren't asking the right questions.

      "Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe." - H. G. Wells

      by danVT on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 03:05:21 AM PDT

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  •  "Intelligence Oversight Board"? (none / 0)

    Knowing the mongoloid they serve as toadies, is it too much to hope that any of these Einsteins will anticipate that hijacked planes could be used as bombs?

    oversight
    n 1: an unintentional omission resulting from failure to notice something [syn: inadvertence] 2: a mistake resulting from inattention [syn: lapse]

    PS: FILIBUSTER!

    Russ Feingold: cooler than Batman.

    by yojimbo on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:10:47 PM PDT

  •  No way'd this GOP-gang abuse their peepholes (none / 0)

    ... to spy on real or imagined political rivals!
    .
    See, only partisan hate speech would try to portray this galumphing herd of GOP true believers as Republican cronies who'd abuse their political appointment for political gain.
    .
  •  James Barksdale. (4.00 / 3)

    Would that be the same used-corporation salesman Barksdale who snookered AOL into buying the failed Netscape and then snookered Time-Warner into buying AOL in the biggest heist in U.S. corporate history, a $54 billion write-off giving control of the largest national media company to a pack of securities promoters, wiping out half of Ted Turner's fortune, and turning CNN into pipsqueak shill for whoever's still got cash?

    The same James Barksdale who is now in the midst of hijacking public broadcasting's assets?

    As the Designated Republican Protector of New Media Security he's responsible for the sinister half of this doublespeak:

    The distinguishing line between domestic and foreign threats is increasingly difficult to sustain. ... our government needs urgently to define new rules--rules to replace the old "line at the border" between domestic and foreign authorities for information-collection and use--to ensure that agencies do not infringe on our traditional civil liberties.
  •  Unrelated (none / 0)

    Why isn't Pandagon linked any more?
  •  Excellent post (none / 0)

    I would rate this initial post very highly. Nice work.
  •  ok, knock off deriding the (none / 1)

    arabian horse folk - they FIRED his ass!

    just shows that some critters have horse sense!

  •  Politics not policy (none / 1)

    I'm not suprised that PFIAB is stacked with cronies.  Bush's MO is to do whatever he wants and tell the public whatever he must to get away with it.  He can't have a bunch of people in advisory positions telling he how disasterous his policies will be, but he needs a few people around to help him with the big words.  
  •  About that missing $9 billion in Iraq (none / 1)

    I think you may have just found it, Georgia.  

    George W Bush - Plame Duck President

    by T u g on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:40:36 PM PDT

  •  Mighty fine post there Georgia (none / 1)

    Reading your posts I sometimes feel like I'm in a post graduate seminar. oy!

    "Freedom of speech isn't something somebody else gives you. That's something you give to yourself." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.

    by brenda on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:58:20 PM PDT

  •  I was wondering when this would (none / 0)

    get some front page attention. I think Soj has diaried on this before.

    The real problem I see is some of these corporate guys on the board having access to the kind of information available to the board.

    The prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad; For the multitude of thy iniquity And the great hatred...

    by Tirge Caps on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:11:21 PM PDT

  •  Holy Crap, I can still muster outrage! (none / 1)

    Unlike many/most of preceding posts, G10's great diary (thanks once again, btw) doesn't provoke humor from me.  I know that my post sounds school-marmish, and I understand fully how it is that so many contributors here have resorted to jokes in order to cope with yet another revelation of Bush incompetence and dereliction of his duties as commander in chief.

    However, if I read G10's description of the access provided to PFIAB appointees re: intelligence generated by super-secret agencies of the US gov't, the notion that the PFIAB is/was staffed by campaign donors and other hacks is downright scary; funny?  Not so much.

    It's not that I'm afraid that they would give bad advice to Bush, since it's clear that he's not too keen on the whole "memo" thing (planes could soon be flying into buildings, there's no yellowcake exported from Niger, the levees are likely to breach... yada, yada, yada).

    My question is:  Who would give those twits keys to the file cabinets?  How could any responsible lifer-spy see fit to tell those folks bunkum re: actual intel?  If elected representatives and senators are unable to view such data, how the HELL do political oppointees merit such privelage?

    So, as I see it, either G10/Salon has overstated the access afforded to PFIAB appointees to intel assets, or the wheels have completely come off the bus.  I hope it's the former, I fear it's the latter.

    "It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Arabiflora on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:16:31 PM PDT

  •  Corporate Coup (none / 0)

    More evidence on the funeral pyre.

    Someday.

    Someday we'll enact the legislation to reel these people in. Believeing that, however naive, is the only way to get through the day.

    These guys devoured America for 5 years. Vultures at the carcass.

    That's what Republicans have become. This was a bloodbath. Do they really just think Dems will come and swoop in and clean it all up and not demand some heads roll eventually?

    Isn't that a little crazy? A lot?

    I'm scared. Mommy?

  •  Yup....BLOGS (none / 0)

    All wild eyed speculation and charges and rumors, but it is the MEDIA which digs out the facts.

    Course now that it has appeared here, it will be too tainted to get any coverage in the MSM.

    Nothing to investigate here....just move on.

    Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

    by dweb8231 on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:23:49 PM PDT

  •  Government "Secret Clearances" (none / 0)

    All of these appointees need to have a very high security clearance, which should be via a non-political process.  I'm curious as to what "bending" of the rules per Bush's desires are made.  Would Bush allow any person or committee at the very highest level in the intelligence bureaucracy nix an appointment for security reasons - or do these people, like others in the government dare not cross "Dear Leader" under threat of losing their job.  

    Even if non or marginally qualified cronies are appointed, they should definitely be subjectred to a thorough background check and cleared by the FBI as I was for a basic low-level "Secret" clearance in the late 1960's to work on a DOD classified research project.

  •  PFIAB (none / 0)

    Yes, let's ask what the President is doing appointing people from Goldman Sachs and the Texas Rangers to a Foreign Intelligence Oversight Board. Doesn't sound like a man who can handle the truth to me.

    Maybe if people understood the Bush is no more competent about intelligence than he is about senior prescription plans or his Katrina response they'd understand why he's fighting congressional oversight.

    It's not because he's serious about keeping secrets, it's because he's serous about hiding his own illegal actions.

    Truth without proof is just biting comedy. ~~ TimeTogether

    by TimeTogether on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 12:13:33 AM PDT

  •  Speaking of incompetence... (none / 0)

    Check out this hysterical clip of Bush drunk and slurry courtesty of the Late Late Show.  

    If we couldn't laugh at this jerk, we'd be crying full-time.

    "It's hard to think straight when you have a crooked mind." ~ Snidely Whiplash

    by Bugsby on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 12:23:55 AM PDT

  •  Well, hell, if Bush would've at least (none / 0)


     . . . listened to Scowcroft about not launching this damn fool tragic war in Iraq, I'd just about give him a "pass" on all the other two-bit cronyism (like how you praise a 3-year-old for singing "Twinkle, Twinkle", even though they just crapped themselves in the middle of doing it:  you give them breaks.

     BenGoshi
    ___________________

    "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

    by BenGoshi on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 12:24:22 AM PDT

  •  Please help me. (none / 0)

    I keep thinking if we keep up the good fight, that justice will prevail.

    But for hells sake, it seems like everyday there is more shit coming out.  I can't keep up with it anymore.

    I know that is what they are trying to do, make us so tired from our jobs, and the non stop bullshit flowing from the whitey house.  But Jesus, I'm tired of this shit.

    And fucking Alito, good God, help us all.

    We are now the new century version of Nazi Germany.  And anyone that tells me I'm wrong for saying that can kiss my ASS.

    These neocon fuckers have no substance in anything they say.

  •  How much money would it take (none / 0)

    to buy out this administration?    

    Honestly, I do NOT understand how anyone could have such little respect for the office.  How does someone become THAT fucked up?  How do you sit in the office of the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and treat it, and the country you are there to SERVE, like some kool kidz clubhouse?

    And no, this is not a surprise to me, I've known about their reward system of government since the first day, but even after 5 fucking years it STILL pisses me off.  I remember reading in early 2001 that they kept a list of donors and rewarded positions accordingly, a 1600 Pennslyvania Ave Project, I guess.

    "I believe that ignorance is the root of all evil. And that no one knows the truth." - Molly Ivins

    by littlesky on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 03:37:05 AM PDT

    •  How much money? (none / 0)

      You have a small, oil rich country you'd like to sell?

      Just looking at all the cronies and corporate millionaire and billionaire types in this list and in tight with the administration, I can't imagine how much wealth, trade and commerce they control.  Merge their power with the administratiion's legislative power and you are talking just enormous piles of wealth and mountains of clout.

      The next time the corporate types want to start a war to gain access to resources, tell them to get their own army.  Our Army is for national defense, not for imperialist coups.

      Proud member of the Cult of Issues and Substance!

      by Fabian on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 09:18:08 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Scary (none / 1)

    Bush wouldn't listen to the chairman of PFIAB, Scowcroft.

    Like nearly everyone else in Washington, Scowcroft believed that Saddam maintained stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, but he wrote that a strong inspections program would have kept him at bay. "There may have come a time when we would have needed to take Saddam out," he told me. "But he wasn't really a threat. His Army was weak, and the country hadn't recovered from sanctions." Scowcroft's colleagues told me that he would have preferred to deliver his analysis privately to the White House. But Scowcroft, the apotheosis of a Washington insider, was by then definitively on the outside, and there was no one in the White House who would listen to him. On the face of it, this is remarkable: Scowcroft's best friend's son is the President; his friend Dick Cheney is the Vice-President; Condoleezza Rice, who was the national-security adviser, and is now the Secretary of State, was once a Scowcroft protege; and the current national-security adviser, Stephen Hadley, is another protege and a former principal at the Scowcroft Group.
    Link
  •  I doubt seriously (none / 0)

    that anyone here will be surprised by this excellent and well researched post...unfortunately. But, it does follow the pattern, doesn't it? Every level in the Bushco government has been crammed with people who are there because of their money connection. This really needs to get wider dissemenation.

    Common Sense is not Common

    by RustyBrown on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 04:01:03 AM PDT

  •  "...reads like a list of Rangers & (none / 0)

    Pioneers..." On that subject, I wonder how often Bush met with his Rangers and Pioneers, and how much face time he gave them. Also, how many of them got rewarded with jobs or contracts? I am asking this because it is another way of going at the problem of ascertaining how plausible Bush's story is that he just met Abramoff at large Channukkah parties and doesn't know him.

    The corporate media are destroying progressive Democrats. The Clintons are destroying the Democratic Party.

    by lecsmith on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 04:09:07 AM PDT

  •  I smell TAINT (none / 0)

  •  Harvard MBA (none / 0)

    Why should we expect anything different?  Shrubya is a Harvard MBA after all.  He's behaving just like any corporate CEO - you stack the Board of Directors with lackeys, cronies, incompetent relatives, and drinking buddies.  They all get a nice annual fee and only have to work a couple of days.  
  •  PFIAB memo: You're the best president ever! (4.00 / 2)

    Great post, G10!  Cronyism got Dubya where he is, he's lived his life by it, and it's how he thinks. Why not use this tried and true system when it comes to getting your advice?

    Yesterday at his news conference, Dubya said he wouldn't let his staff testify before Congress about Abramoff because he'd already turned over documents, and (paraphrasing) it would negatively affect his ability to receive quality advice.

    That's funny, in a god-how-you-piss-me-off-you-shameless-lying-bastard sort of way.

    It's a nice loop: 1) stack your staff and advisory councils with cronies (especially as payback for campaign contributions) (i.e., rangers, pioneers, cowpokes, horsethiefs, saddletramps, muleskinners, calf-ropers, hayseeds, desperados, varmints ($25 or less), or whatever other dumb-ass wild west names they use), 2) fire anyone who disagrees with the groupthink (can you say "Scowcroft"?), 3) seal the loop from accountability with claims of executive privilege, and then 4) go do whatever the hell you want and call anyone who dares to question you a traitor.

    Because this town ain't big enough for the two of us, pard.

    The people who brought you the War on Terror are the same ones who brought you the War on Drugs.

    by Terminus on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 07:25:29 AM PDT

  •  Hold On... (none / 0)

    ...I KNOW Jimmy Langdon.  He's with Akin Gump - a firm my office works with. I thought he was just a goofy big ticket Rethug.  He's a Pioneer and a Big Time fundraiser, but I had know idea he was on some kind of intelligence advisory committee.  Makes no sense.  He's a good lawyer and a good 'ol boy, but no kind of policy wonk!

    No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. - Edward R. Murrow

    by CrazyHorse on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 08:21:02 AM PDT

  •  Usually right on (none / 0)

    I love ya georgia10, but you missed the boat on this one.

    That is an emminently qualified, diverse group of people you went after. Sorry, I simply disagree with this one. They might be all conservatives, but that is the right of a conservative president to appoint. The problem with your point is that  the people in that 2001 list have integrity, and it appears the 2005 list does as well.

    Simply attacking good people because they are appointed by Bush isn't exactly a compelling argument. Where is the usual "specific information" you usually provide in making points that indicates something is wrong with any of these individuals?

    There are no Michael Browns on that panal, not by a long shot. The last thing you want on the PFIAB is a bunch of secret police types (CIA) with no outsiders from out here in the real world. Had Bush given nothing but professional spooks the positions, that would be thousands of times more concerning to me.

    Sorry, this post didn't do it for me. Have a good weekend!

  •  What's happening? (none / 0)

    The Constitution was written not to empower government, but to restrict it.  Perhaps blatant, perhaps insidious, more and more power over our lives has been put in the private sector, over which we have no control.  Case in point:  The recent demonstration in front of a Halliburton facility, the peanut-butter sandwich event, came under government scrutiny.  Why?  Apparently Halliburton is a military installation because the government agency involved in the surveillance is empowered to do so when there is a threat to a military installation or to military personnel. A Halliburton site is a military installation? Then there's Cheney's energy cabal.  Lobbyists writing legislation?  Congress earmarking pork to the private sector?  There is no Constitution restricting the private sector.

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