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      In the wake of school shootings in Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania during the last two weeks, a Wisconsin state legislator said he plans to introduce legislation that would allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons. This might work in Israel and Thailand but?
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     Rep. Frank Lasee, R-Bellevue, said Wednesday that, while his idea may not be politically correct, it has worked effectively in other countries.
        "To make our schools safe for our students to learn, all options should be on the table," he said. "Israel and Thailand have well-trained teachers carrying weapons and keeping their children safe from harm. It can work in Wisconsin." No way!
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Lasee stressed that the measure would hinge on school staff members getting strict training on the use of the weapons.
           But Pete Pochowski, director of school safety for Milwaukee Public Schools, expressed opposition to the proposal.

"Statistically, the safest place for a child to be is in school," Pochowski aid . "We have problems in our schools, but not to the point where we need to arm our teachers and principals."
           Children in countries such as Israel and Thailand are far more vulnerable to daily violence than students in America, he said.
          "In the country we live in, we have a lot of freedom," Pochowski said, "and we have to expose ourselves to some danger to keep that."            
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        That includes our teachers sometimes. But I have to agree with this! It figures this ridiculous idea comes from the mouth of a Repub! Think about it! With a rash of teachers male and female, molesting students and also being prone to acting irrationally, can we possibly think we want them to have a gun? Yep, molestation at gunpoint. That's a good idea. Wake up, this is America 2006!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

Originally posted to jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:21 AM PDT.

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  •  Republican answer to everything (4+ / 0-)

    Cut taxes and give 'em guns.

    "I just had the basic view of the American public -- it can't be that bad out there." Marine Travis Williams after 11 members of his squad were killed.

    by Steven D on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:24:14 AM PDT

    •  Absolutely (1+ / 0-)
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      Deregulate everything, lower taxes, and give everyone a gun.  Sounds like a great mix.

      -6.5, -7.59. If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

      by DrWolfy on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:28:21 AM PDT

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      •  Really! What a total failure Republican control (0+ / 0-)

        has proven to be. All this idiocy with no oversight. Sounds like a Republican party to me. Speaking of parties. I caught that the Misadministration has set aside 20 million for their Iraq victory party that is not going to happen. So there is a few more bucks anyway!

        Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

        by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:44:57 AM PDT

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    •  This really should be, now and forever, ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... "defer taxes" or "steal children's futures", because, as Reagan and Bush and Bush-the-lesser have completely shown, Republicans are the "Steal from your children and spend lavishly" party of no financial or social responsibility.

      Bushism: Lie; lie; lie; lie; lie; project your degeneracy onto those you perceive as enemies; lie; lie; lie; lie.

      by Yellow Canary on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:33:46 AM PDT

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    •  I am a hunter and this is whack. (1+ / 0-)
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      I teach, I own guns, I hunt, and I'm a committed leftist.  Sort of a rare breed.  Whatever my personal internal views on things the idea that teachers would be on a school campus carrying weapons is so whack it's unbelievable.  

      I guess my point is that lots of these Republicans and I will be out in the marsh together at sunrise when duck season opens.  But the guns go back in the closest during the week.  They don't belong on a school campus, period.

      When I lived in Atlanta one of the small cities north of the Metropolis, Kennesaw, I think it was, passed a law that said you had to have a gun in your house.

      ___ ing crazies.

      "We will now proceed to construct the socialist order."

      by 7November on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:37:44 AM PDT

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      •  I agree 100% The thought of weapons in the (1+ / 0-)
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        hands of teachers concerns me. It also scares my teacher friends. In light of the teacher molestations of students and some teachers with psychological problems that seems to affect every segment of society. I think this is a terrible idea for America.

        Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

        by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:50:17 AM PDT

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    •  taxes and guns: you forgot one (1+ / 0-)
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      Jail!  Put all them students in lock up with a gun carrying warden teacher watching over them and I bet they can get their learnin' done.

      Hey ... get up ... and remember ... 9/11 changed nothing.

      by CalbraithRodgers on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:39:41 AM PDT

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      •  That's funny! Don't suggest it. Republicans (0+ / 0-)

        would probably like that idea. That way their failure of no student left behind that Bush wants to renew because it is such a success, can be guaranteed. They won't be left behind if they are in jail!

        Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

        by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:54:05 AM PDT

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    •  Yep, more chaos and mayhem with less money (0+ / 0-)

      to address it. So we'll just create more problems and debt for our children to deal with if they survive Bush's idiocy and wars.

      Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

      by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:40:32 AM PDT

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    •  What a MORAN!!! .... (0+ / 0-)

      sorry, don't have the photo...

      The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it -- GB Shaw

      by kmiddle on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:58:15 AM PDT

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  •  Here's one. (1+ / 0-)
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    What party did the Lancaster killer belong to?

    Let's see:  he did it his way.  He was armed to the teeth.  He was obsessed with death and sex.  And power or others.  Illicit sex.  Illicit death -- that is to say, murder.  He couldn't control his urges, so he acted on them and killed innocent children on whom he projected his sexual urges.

    I don't know what political party he was registered to, and I'm too sensitive to generalizations to think that Republicans ALL think like that, but is sure seems to fit some clear sense of themselves that Republicans proudly broadcast.

    He may have been a madman, but he sure seems to have been a Republican madman.

    Bushism: Lie; lie; lie; lie; lie; project your degeneracy onto those you perceive as enemies; lie; lie; lie; lie.

    by Yellow Canary on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:30:50 AM PDT

    •  I don't know his party either but as (0+ / 0-)

      you just described it I would also expect Republican. I don't know about being too sensitive to think all repubs think that way.
        I have gotten some pretty screwed up responses from many of them on my other posts.  With them saying we are all baby kilers and anti American perverts along with them saying we can not be christians because we are Dems.
         My response to that is okay I guess all those child molesting priests are Republicans. These people really are screwed up and over the top.

      Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

      by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:02:37 AM PDT

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  •  Why can't they (1+ / 0-)
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    go to a reasonable solution like give teachers a spray that would incapacitate the gunman?  They always go off the deep end and go to the extreme.  I really want my children to go to school knowing there are weapons in the school.  Forget the teachers, how about kids who know they are there and get ahold of them?  Kooks.  CNN is interviewing this guy right now.  Who wants to bet she never asks the question about a lesser option.

    "Do you want to tumble? Let's tumble." Stephen Colbert

    by tobendaro on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 06:36:18 AM PDT

    •  Geez, you're right! It is a scary thought. (1+ / 0-)
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        Sounds like a recipe for another Republican disaster. You know, Thinking about it and knowing of past problems with teachers trying to control uncontrollable students, who is to say they wouldn't use the spray to control students. I don't know? I am going to try and catch that CNN interview, thanks.

      Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

      by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:08:10 AM PDT

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  •  Incredibly, the NRA (1+ / 0-)
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    offered this suggestion about 2 years ago.

    Wouldn't the DHS have something to say about that?


    Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)

    by nupstateny on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:06:38 AM PDT

    •  Now that you mention it, It sounds vaguely (0+ / 0-)

      familiar! I think it is a very scary thought myself. Mental stability does not seem to be a going commodity today. I wouldn't want to have to trust everyone to be on the level. I'm sure the DHS would have something to say but I don't think I have heard anything myself.

      Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

      by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:14:19 AM PDT

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  •  reall really stupid.... (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm one who supports the personal rights interpretation of the Second Amendment and believes that an armed citizenry is the last line of defense against tyranny.  

    But this is really really stupid, going too far, and extreme.  The only place for firearms in a school is with any duly sworn police officer who might have to go there for whatever reason, and perhaps in a riflery program or similar context where the firearms are under serious lock and key and proper supervision.  

    Imagine some armed teacher who happens to flip out or make a terrible mistake or just have an accident with the weapon.  No thanks.  

    •  You are right on both counts! (0+ / 0-)

        Imagine some armed teacher who happens to flip out or make a terrible mistake or just have an accident with the weapon.  No thanks. you're right, that is what scares me. Plus as someone pointed out, what if a student gets ahold of it. If a teacher is protecting his or her weapon they are not concentrating on teaching. All in all a scary proposition in America.

      Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

      by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:32:07 AM PDT

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      •  Our son's school (0+ / 0-)

        has a liason officer who is frequently at the school. Not to mention if anyone remembers the cop showing kids gun safety and shot himself accidently in the leg?

        Bad idea for teachers to be armed!

        "I don't think the heavy stuff is coming down yet"

        by MadMs on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:40:57 AM PDT

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        •  I agree! I can understand a Liason Officer. (0+ / 0-)

            I also remember that cop incident if that is the one where he shot himself in the leg then he sued. There are just too many issues. I know many teachers and I wouldn't want to say anything to hurt them but having a gun in their hands at school scares the hell out of me. Learn or else people, go ahead make my day! Who would keep the students from getting their hands on a gun or the teacher from doing something stupid out of desperation? An armed monitor in every class? This is a ridiculous idea!

          Repug credo: If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullshit! http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

          by jmsjoin on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:54:12 AM PDT

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