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I'm watching the season premiere of Battlestar Galactica, and I'm totally floored.

If you haven't been following the show, at the end of last season the humans found a habitable planet, dubbed it New Caprica, and settled. A year later, the Cylons show up and take over.

Tonight, we find out how the occupation has been going. WARNING: spoilers after the cut.

Turns out the Cylons are on New Caprica not to exterminate the humans, but to convert them to the Cylon religion. But the conversion isn't going too well.

The Cylon ministries of New Caprica are faceless, inefficient bureaucracies. The humans live in squalor. The Cylons vastly outgun the humans, in a head-to-head fight the humans lose every time.

The Cylons arrest people without charge, and torture them for information.  They've recently formed a police force of humans in order to try to win hearts and minds of the people. They play all sorts of head games with the humans to try to persuade them to join. And the Cylons are corrupt - we see one sleeping with a human in exchange for letting her husband out of prison.

The humans have formed an insurgency. They attack the "police" as collaborators. They bomb and attack where they can. They even resort to suicide bombings out of desperation.

Battlestar Galactica has done a frackin' metaphor for Iraq, and guess who the Cylons are?

This is just brilliant television. I suppose it's a good thing the right wing is too busy protecting sexual predators to watch.

Originally posted to DCBlues on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:32 PM PDT.

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  •  It's always been a great show but (5+ / 0-)

    this is really superlative.  And grim as shit.

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    mattes, oortdust, joyful

    lol this makes diary number 3 hehe

    things fall apart; the centre cannot hold

    by terrypinder on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:42:40 PM PDT

  •  I was watching (4+ / 0-)
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    cosbo, oortdust, sxwarren, joyful

    and thinking just the same thing.

    They're doing a hell of a job.
    It's as dark as anything I've seen on tv.

    Commercial's over.

    The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. - Henry Wallace V.P. 1941-45

    by BoxerRebellion on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:43:15 PM PDT

  •  This show has always been terrific (4+ / 0-)
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    cosbo, oortdust, sxwarren, joyful

    But now it's frakkin' brilliant.

    BSG producers will be renditioned shortly....

    Sometimes you cover your ass with the lame excuses you have, not the lame excuses you wish for.

    by litigatormom on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:49:58 PM PDT

  •  the conservatives (3+ / 0-)
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    at bulliten boards appear livid.

    things fall apart; the centre cannot hold

    by terrypinder on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 07:57:56 PM PDT

    •  They can (3+ / 0-)
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      cosbo, ktakki, oortdust

      still watch ECW to deal with their homoerotic violent fantasies.  I just had one question after watching the episode: am I now a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer?  Maybe Bush will come out tomorrow and demonize the show and the viewers for aiding the enemy.  It was an excellent episode.

  •  I love this show (3+ / 0-)
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    oortdust, sxwarren, joyful

    Holy frak, that was incredible and the parallels with Iraq were amazing. I can't wait for the rest of the season.

  •  Cylons = Neocons (2+ / 0-)
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    What could be clearer?

    Private life is all about managing pain. In business and government, this means externalizing and deferring costs whenever possible.

    by sxwarren on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 08:07:18 PM PDT

  •  Jeebus in a Raptor (5+ / 0-)

    I almost drove my wife nuts as we watched the show.  I kept saying, "See??? X in the show is just like Y in Iraq!!!"

    It's a good thing she has way too much time invested in this marriage to toss me out, or I'd be posting this from my front yard.

  •  Great show and I interpreted it this way.... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...that the Cylons are the right wing Repubs taking over America, not so much Iraq.   I found this evening's show terribly compelling and a great metaphor for what we are up against.  Is it god's will that we suffer this?   I don't think so.

    As Murrow would say:  Good night, and good luck.

  •  Totally Agree... (2+ / 0-)
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    They hit all the buttons: why people can be driven to become suicide bombers (not just religious fanatacism at work), the nature of the insurgency, etc. etc.

    Awesome work by the SciFi channel!

    Peace in a world free of Religion, Peace in a world where everyone gets Heaven... -- Toni Halliday

    by Wintermute on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 08:10:57 PM PDT

  •  It's a good metaphor but.. (0+ / 0-)

    I still prefer the 70's chrome version.

  •  Subversive Liberals (12+ / 0-)

    Ron Moore who heads up this show grew up as a big fan of Star Trek, which was a subversive show in its day.  Kirk was constantly killing God, trying to find peace with the Klingons (nee Russians), having the first interracial kiss on TV, dealing with the silliness of a "race" war between two "races" of half black and half white people (they were half color on oppositte sides of their faces but otherwise identical) etc etc.

    The entire new Galactica series is (like the original Trek) a commentary on our society in general and our political culture in particular and only secondarily science fiction.  Tonight's opening episode of the new season was just beyond all belief in its take down of Bush.  Even more subervisely it points out that 'insurgents' are people too who, even if perhaps misguided and even murderers, are motivated by real world issues and are three-dimensional people who must be understood as such if not accepted.   Of course, true to good liberalism, Moore does not make it simple.  The right-winger military types are trying their best and have some good arguments and motivations.

    At base, he asks us, what would you do if you were Iraqi?  US Military?  A widower of a civillian killed by the occupiers?  A terrorist?  A resistance fighter?  Faced with an insurgency against an attempt to create a government and system you genuinely think is better for everyone?

    Gotta love subversive liberals.  Makes you think.  If only Bush and the neocons could learn to think.


    "Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings." Heinrich Heine, from his play Almansor (1821)

    by egrass on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 08:19:57 PM PDT

  •  The cylon clones are the conservative bloggers (2+ / 0-)
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    Dittoheads whose answer to every problem is escalating the violence.

  •  Winning Hearts and Minds (8+ / 0-)

    "Winning Hearts and Minds through fear".

    It took me a while to pick my jaw up off of the floor.

  •  My favorite line (3+ / 0-)
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    April Follies, sarasson007, pgm 01

    was when Dean Stockwell said and we thought they would greet us like......well you know.

  •  This was absolutely amazing (1+ / 0-)
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    I watched this at my friend's house and we were both astounded. That was two hours of incredibly intense television. They would never have gotten away with that on the networks. Anyone at all who is interested in the current world situation and in great filmed drama needs to be watching this show.

    The parallels were fast and furious and this was an absolute call-out to BushCo. I remarked about a dozen times throughout the hour that wow, Ron Moore better deadbold his door tonight because the thought police are going to be coming after him ASAP.


    OT to this discussion, but what do we think that Starbuck's motivation is?

    •  Either... (0+ / 0-)

      OT to this discussion, but what do we think that Starbuck's motivation is?

      Either she's being brainwashed by Leoben, or she's biding her time.

      Of course, I guess those are really the only choices, aren't they?  I'm such a supergenius with a grasp of the obvious.

  •  That was great fraking TV (0+ / 0-)

    Evan more darker than before.

  •  New Caprica is also a metaphor for Israel (0+ / 0-)

    and the Palestine occupation. IMO.

    Disable Bush, vote Democratic!

    by mattes on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 09:30:10 PM PDT

  •  So who would Caprica Six and Boomer be? (0+ / 0-)

    The Democrats who voted for the war?

  •  TV Guide discussed the Iraq Connection (2+ / 0-)
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    smartguy11, KatHart

    TV Guide

    Speaking of eerie similarities, Eick knows full well that the scene on New Caprica, replete with insurgents, torture and brainwashing, hits very close to home in today's geopolitical climate. Detailing his and exec producer Ronald D. Moore's poli-sci backgrounds and predilections, Eick says, "We were of the mind that the world didn't need another space opera [when BSG premiered]. I mean, why do another show about people on a ship in outer space unless there was something new to add to it? To me, the old sci-fi novels were all about allegorical, sociopolitical commentary, and that had been lost in contemporary science fiction, so ours wasn't so much a new idea as going back to an old one, to have science fiction discuss the issues of today."

  •  Conservatives Love Battlestar Galactica (0+ / 0-)

    I beg to differ. Conservatives love Battlestar Galactica. It's the only .pro-Iraq War, pro-Christian show on television. The Cylons' heroic efforts to to spread democratic ideals and Christian values are inspiring.

    by jonswift on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 12:29:41 PM PDT

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