OK, I managed to watch both Charles Rangel and Kent Conrad help the turds invaluably in their quest to destroy SS, all in the span of 1/2 hour.
First on MTP. OK I'll give Rangel a little credit. When fat russ asked him what the dems plan was to "save" SS he correctly excoriated fat russ, stating the obvious-shrub hasn't put forth his plan-why should we? It was an avalanche from their.
The lying and dissembling from Grassley was coming thick and heavy. I don't know that anyone could have countered all of it, but at one point Grassley said that back in 1977 congress had to make changes to keep SS going for 50 years. So let's see SS is still in good enough shape to keep going for 50 years, no comment from Rangel.
Kent Conrad on TW-basically "I agree with everything the republicans want to do, We just need a better way to fund it." Christ with performances like this, the turds can rely on the dems to push their agenda through, they're doing a pretty good job of it. George S just said Conrad and the turd on his show(can't remember his name) didn't agree on much. But I really think the average person watching this would have come away thinking the dems and the turds have only minor differences in the Senate on SS.
I don't know if the dems can ever get the message discipline that the turds have, but Reid and Pelosi need to drop the hammer.
One final comment. In Central New York I've already seen 2 pro-privatization commercials from the Club for Growth, no anti, at least yet. We'll have to watch this and see if the local TV stations allow any anti privatization ads on the air.