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Maryscott Don't vote for Howard Berman (CA 28th) w/poll

Sun Oct 29, 2006 at 09:19:15 AM PDT

Much to my surprise I find myself in the same Congressional District (CA 28th) as the highly read and regarded diarist Maryscott OConnor. Like Maryscott, I have also met Byron DeLear and believe like Ms. OConnor he makes a fine candidate (CA-28: Green versus Democrat). Like her I wish Byron was running against a Repug as a Democrat candidate.

Howard Berman's support of the War is wrong on Humanitarian Grounds, on Environmental Grounds, on Moral Grounds and on National Security Grounds.

Maryscott, as you have pointed out far more eloquently than I the war in Iraq is a Genocidal Nightmare without end. It is the defining issue of our decade, right here, right now. Howard Berman (HB) got it wrong and he should have known better. How can HB be a reliable progressive voice when he supports a policy that hurts our national security, drains our National Treasure ($337 Billion) and recklessly kills - 3000, disables and permanently impairs a 100,000+ and counting of our noblest young adults? The Department of Veterans Affairs documents show that 100,000 veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan have been granted disability compensation Can we afford the rising cost of their care for the next 50 to 70 years? Howard Berman is complicit in allowing this tsunami of pain and money to over whelm our budgets for years.

Howard Berman has enabled Bu$h foreign policy and Israel is a big beefy right hook of that foreign policy. The reason HB probably voted for the Bu$h Agenda is has been mostly likely has been bought by the AIPAC lobby who have helped craft Neocon Foreign Policy debacle for the last 6 years. Did you see what happened in Lebanon? Do you think for one minute Israel did not get permission from the White House for the destruction of Lebanon and of course the attendant misery in Israel. HB in some ways is responsible, for Olmert would never have gone in without Bush backing. If Bush had credible opposition in Congress like DeLear appears to represent then he might not have killed 600,000 Iraqis.

No President in History has been able to set aside civil liberties as Bu$h has done. Whether Berman has voted for any these so called Patriot Act Bills, Torture Bills and spying on us Bills, which go hand and hand with National Security and the War on Terror he has been a Bu$h enabler. Without the War on Terror as an excuse to cancel our Civil rights.

Berman pretend he is an environmentalist. He says he supports proposition 87, to end out reliance on oil, special. Does he have any idea who is the biggest consumer of fuel and the biggest polluter on the planet? That would be the US Military. Think about the tons of depleted Uranium Dust blowing around Iraq the Middle East, eventually, the World? What about all the Green House Gases released into the atmosphere from the explosives, can't be good.

This is our moment to get accountability.

Aggressive wars are themselves war crimes. To intentionally create and go along with a false basis for an aggressive war is an act of high treason. Therefore the War in Iraq is indefensible and the only way HB can really reflect the values we have here in the 28th is throw him out of office or at the very least make him respect and honor our anti-war by giving him the stiffest election challenge we can muster, knows if he screws up and continues to support the Bu$h position he will have a credible challenger who is going to come back at him and unseat him in 2 freaking short years because I won't forget and Maryscott you will not forget the horror of 2 more years of war in Iraq and maybe Iran too.  

Your rational for supporting Berman is also flawed. It's like being in a Marriage and 2/3 of the time it's good, but when it comes to let's say really important thing: Sex and Fidelity it is not good. Would you stay in that marriage? HB is a congressman that pretends he is a liberal but when the important votes comes he caves like 90% of the democrats. It is intolerable to me to have another 2 years of the same old agenda. What will it take for Americans to reestablish accountability in their government? Bush has got away with lies and an illegal war of aggression, with outing CIA agents, with war crimes against Iraqi civilians, with the horrors of the Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo torture centers, and the destruction of New Orleans.

What will it take for Americans to reestablish accountability in their government? Answered fewer Howard Berman's in congress.
With DeLear (info here) I know we will have a strong oppositional voice in Congress opposing the Bu$h Co agenda. He will vote with them Dems most of the time. Mary, we must Crash the Gate and not voting Howard out is just the status quo for the worst government and the very worst President of the United States ever. To paraphrase General Wesley Clark: "And now, 3 and a half years into a failing mission in Iraq", Howard Berman "can't seem to say we should change the course. And that's a REAL mistake."

Re-elect Howard Berman? Well, there's a word for it.

"Mistake."(see the Ad here)

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  •  Calling out posters... (11+ / 0-)

    ...in your title is prohibited according to the site rules.

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

    by BarbinMD on Sun Oct 29, 2006 at 09:18:46 AM PDT

  •  Which thing is she wrong about this time? (2+ / 0-)

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    SallyCat, boran2

    I have been keeping a database and I upgrade my servers more than Markos does.

    Searching....searching...searching....

    Sorry, I am using a Commodore 64.  I'll get back to you!

  •  Have fun in the wilderness. (2+ / 0-)

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    lipris, SallyCat

    Literally and metaphorically.

  •  change your title n/t (2+ / 0-)

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    SallyCat, DMiller

    insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

    by zenobia on Sun Oct 29, 2006 at 09:36:51 AM PDT

  •  I also live in the 28th (4+ / 0-)

      I am an activist Democrat who doesn't want to hurt our party's chances in the Congressional elections. That said, I am voting for DeLear for Congress against Berman. Why?  First reason: I am not happy with Howard on foreign policy. He was for the war, is still for the war, and will probably be the last Democratic Representative to be for it. I also disagree with him on mideast policy in general, but he is in the majority opinion in our district on relations with Israel, so I've given up on trying to change that in him. He is aligned with the AIPAC but didn't have to be bought by them; it's where he was already coming from. I think a more balanced policy would be beneficial to both the USA and Israel, but he doesn't agree.
       Second reason I oppose Howard: He doesn't get out into the district. Unlike Brad Sherman in the next district over, Howard doesn't do town hall meetings to get to know the people of the district and listen to us. I feel like he takes the district for granted. Brad is doing meetings every couple of months or so; to see Howard you have to go to fundraisers, I think.
       Third reason: Part of the reason that Berman takes the district for granted is that he can; it is an ultra-safe Dem district. The GOPer has no more chance of winning the seat than the Green. It is a safe vote to protest Howard by voting for Byron. I make this vote of conscience, but I'm enough of a party hack or realist that if it were closer I would  vote for Berman. He is quite good on most domestic policies (though the costs of the war make it harder to have domestic successes.)
     

    I'm not a Limousine Liberal; I am a Prius Progressive

    by Zack from the SFV on Sun Oct 29, 2006 at 09:51:57 AM PDT

  •  Didn't DeLear,,, (2+ / 0-)

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    Linda Milazzo, extratime40

    say he would caucus with the Dems?  

    If so, I don't see an issue with voting for him.  He's the better candidate, by a mile.

    "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine 4100+ dead Americans. Bring them home.

    by Miss Blue on Sun Oct 29, 2006 at 10:05:35 AM PDT

    •  Yes, and I'm certain he would... (1+ / 0-)

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      Miss Blue

      DeLear is a fabulous candidate... honorable and highly electable.  He's open and fair minded.  I'm certain Berman would be shaking in his shoes had DeLear run as a Democrat.

      Byron DeLear most certainly has my vote!!

      •  DeLear is a good candidate (0+ / 0-)

          but a candidate that would scare Berman in a primary more likely would be a woman and either of Jewish or Mexican ancestry, maybe even Armenian (though that would be more helpful in the Schiff district than Berman's). A primary challenger wouldn't have as much funding as Berman and would need some base of voters that Howard didn't have (or cut into his base). The Dem challenger in the last two election cycles was Charles Coleman, a nice guy with good views, but not a great candidate in terms of his presentation or campaign organization (fundraising or volunteer base). An Anglo dude doesn't bring a sense of change, and doesn't pick up the voters that a woman would. The district is becoming more Latino (although the 2002 redistricting designed by Berman's brother gave him more Jewish and fewer Latino voters, who were put in Sherman's district). I don't think that everyone or even most people vote their ethnicity or gender but it could add a few points here and there to someone's vote totals
           

        I'm not a Limousine Liberal; I am a Prius Progressive

        by Zack from the SFV on Sun Oct 29, 2006 at 08:12:44 PM PDT

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  •  You have broken site rules (3+ / 0-)

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    in calling out a user in a diary title. Change it or face a potential ban.

  •  The eye of Kos is upon you! (1+ / 0-)

    Better shape up!

  •  Hey, kiddo... (4+ / 0-)

    I don't know what the original title was, but just for the record -- the title IS against the rules, but I like the text. You are absolutely correct. Since I posted that diary about voting for Berman, I've gone back on the fence. I guess I know now what it feels like to be "Undecided"  -- karma for mocking the Undecideds in the past.

    •  Thank you (2+ / 0-)

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      Maryscott OConnor, Linda Milazzo

      I appreciate your open mind and your willingness to look at the issues. My original title was Maryscott is wrong and so is Howard Berman.

      Maryscott you have been so right about so many issues I was just trying to get attention (yours and other dems here in the 28th to take another look at DeLear because Berman'ssupport of the War is just unacceptable) being a novice here. I was not trying to start a war, but a dialouge. There are still too many Joe L. in the Dem Party for my taste.

      •  Dear Maryscott... (2+ / 0-)

        First of all, I'm thrilled you've re-visited your position on Berman.  He's truly not someone we need in Congress.  I don't know if you know Byron DeLear... if you've heard him or met him.  But if you haven't as of yet, I'm certain you'd be as inspired as many of us are by his campaign.  

        I am a Progressive Democrat and I begged Byron to run as a Dem.  But being the man he is... having such strong convictions and remaining so faithful to them, he declined.   What can I say??  Byron has honor and Berman does not.

        Secondly, a couple years ago I, too, was the subject of a blog title on kos that read: "Linda Milazzo is Wrong...." based on a piece I'd written on Commondreams.  It wasn't an issue for kos at the time because I hadn't as yet been a blogger.  But I have to admit, I found it pretty funny... even kind of fun.  

        No big deal.  As writers we're either agreed with or opposed.  We can easily weather both... as you've demonstrated so well!

        Linda

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