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The NY 19th has surprised nearly everyone with an incredibly tight race between progressive Dem John Hall running neck and neck against 6 term party-line Repub incumbent Sue Kelly.  The Hall campaign is deluged with volunteers and has mounted an enormous coordinated grass roots GOTV effort.  

Rovian tactics are in full swing: Kelly is using her war chest of PAC money on over-the-top negative ads on radio, tv and daily mailers, using every dirty trick you can imagine.  Now this new low - yesterday, after canvassers reported that some voters were angry with the Hall campaign for relentless phone calls, we discovered that a 3rd party is sponsoring a robo call that initially appears to come from the Hall campaign.  You won't believe this one...


Here's the rub - if the person hangs up on the call, there is an automatic call back every 15 minutes until the person listens to the message in its entirety (we've heard people getting 7 and more repeated calls)!  The goal is to get the voter so annoyed by the harrassing calls that they decide not to vote for Hall.  A new chapter in the ongoing saga of voter disenfranchisement and manipulation.  Has anyone heard of this occurring in their congressional race?  

Originally posted to katlib on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:48 AM PST.

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  •  There have been a few stories like this one. (1+ / 0-)
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    Do you happen to have any links or other third-party verification that it is happening in New York?

  •  Get people to record the message! (2+ / 0-)
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    snakelass, occams hatchet

    In other diaries about this type of call, it's been noted that the group/person making the robo call is identified at the end.  If you can get proof that these calls are being made, I think there is actionable cause against that group/person.

  •  I heard of some of this (0+ / 0-)

    type of thing going on in CA.  But what do you expect from the Rescums?  They can't run a clean campaing and it has become apparent that they can't win an election without cheating.  The sooner we are shut of the Rescums, the better.  It's too bad that they can't defend their side of the issues.  The Dems have the higher ground on all the issues facing the voters on Tuesday and the Republicans cannot deal with it.  Therefore they are reduced to doing what they do best, bully and antagonize.  This is the last shriek on the retreat for them, and believe me, we ain't seen nothin' yet!  One can only hope that the American people realize the depths these assholes will go to win and refute them at the polls on Tuesday!

    The only smarts I have are that I'm smart enough to know I can outwork 'em- Woody Hayes

    by Mighty Ike on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:56:41 AM PST

  •  Mailbox is filling up (0+ / 0-)

    This from Marsh Blackburn Tennessee
    I supported a boyscout cause once and got on
    a gay old pedafile mail list.

    Thought you might find this article interesting...

    New York Post Editorial


    November 3, 2006 -- John Kerry's insult this week of, supposedly, the "president, not the troops" overshadowed another story: Top New York Democrat Charlie Rangel's own vitriolic outburst, calling the vice president a "son of a bitch."

    In an interview with The Post, the aspiring chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee lashed out at Dick Cheney, suggesting the veep seek "rehab" for "whatever personality deficit he may have suffered."

    Don't Dems have any respect for America's highest political offices? (Maybe they should be called the Gutter-crats.)

    But President Bush made clear just what's at stake if the donkeys retake the House and Rangel comes to chair that critical panel.

    "A vote to send a Democrat to Congress is a vote to make the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee a man who has suggested cutting off funds for our troops on the battlefield," Bush said.

    The prez was referring to Rangel's threat to de-fund the Iraq war. Long a foe of the Iraq campaign, Rangel has said, mischievously: "You've got to be able to pay for the war, don't you?"

    His meaning couldn't be clearer: With Rangel as the House's budget-legislation gatekeeper, Iraq funds could suddenly dry up, forcing Bush to run a cash-strapped war. And leaving the troops hanging.

    Maybe the Dems hate the president, the veep and the troops . . .

    Meanwhile, Rangel's record suggests that Cheney and Bush are also right as rain in predicting that he'll raise taxes if the Dems take the House and he becomes chairman.

    That suggestion was what made the congressman go ballistic.

    Truth hurts, apparently.

    In fact, Rangel has spent years opposing tax cuts - and backing hikes. Recently, he said he couldn't think of a single Bush tax cut he'd be willing to extend.

    This week, with a tight election at hand, Rangel is singing a different tune.

    "It's quite possible that I might want to extend the tax cuts," he told The Post.

    Yeah, right. Let's go to the videotape.

    Rangel has voted:

    • Against cuts in estate taxes.
    • Against repealing phone taxes.
    • Against $137 billion in corporate tax cuts in '04.
    • Against $330 billion in cuts in '03.
    • Against Bush's plan to slice taxes by $1.35 trillion over 10 years in '01.
    • Against $792 billion in trims over 10 years in '97.
    • Against a five-year plan to cut $189 billion in '95.

    But Rangel made sure to vote in favor of President Clinton's tax hikes in '93.

    And he's supported "targeted" tax breaks (i.e., disguised spending measures) for favored groups, like those who invest in "distressed" areas or who spend money on child care.

    Yeah, Rangel will extend Bush's tax cuts - for five minutes, maybe.

    Even though not extending them could jeopardize the economic recovery.

    Wednesday, Cheney poked fun at Kerry for now claiming his slur of the troops - er, the president - was a "botched joke."

    "He was for the joke before he was against it," the veep quipped.

    Rangel could use a similar excuse: He was for higher taxes before he was against 'em.

    Either way, if Dems win the House, Americans can kiss their cash goodbye.

    And the troops in Iraq, their ammo.

  •  Find out where the phone bank is located and (0+ / 0-)

    destroy the building.....
    These are unbelievablely dirty tricks. The TV stations should be running information on who is behind this.

    lead, follow, or get out of the way.

    by cabinetman1 on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:02:08 AM PST

  •  I'm writing letters.... (3+ / 0-)
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    Mike McL, MrMacMan, katonahdem

    FWIW - I just sent an e-mail to the Poughkeepsie Journal and will do the same to the other locals asking them to investigate this.

    As I said in my quick note "At this late date, it would be a shame to see this election turn due to a dirty trick."

  •  I canvassed & its a damn an effective dirty trick (1+ / 0-)
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    Mike McL

    I did canvassing and phonebanking the entire day today in Poughkeepsie and Wapinger Falls.

    The people yelled at me for calling them over and over  and I told them that they are not calls from the Hall campaign but calls from the rethugs (RNCC) or identified as 'Sue Kelly'.

    When I canvassed many many people told me 'didn't you call me enough today?' she told me how other anti-sue groups had already come to her... i told her i was an actual john hall volunteer not another group.

    This is EFFECTIVE and DIRTY.

    We need to get the word out, tell your friend, tell your family -- these are NOT Hall calls -- we called during the primary, we are calling this past week and we are calling on election day, we are not making these non-stop multiple calls.

    -- MrMacMan

    Its time to boot Sue Kelly out of office.

    by MrMacMan on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 04:26:46 PM PST

  •  Link to audio here! (0+ / 0-)

    Its time to boot Sue Kelly out of office.

    by MrMacMan on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:19:18 PM PST

  •  complaint to Sue Kelly's campaign offices (0+ / 0-)

    Seems to me everyone should call as often as they can and complain...

  •  I just set somebody straight (0+ / 0-)

    I was just talking to a co-worker and she said she's been getting these calls and that she was going to vote against Hall because of them.  I told her the Republicans were behind it and set her straight.  Get the word out everybody.

  •  Thom Hartmann (0+ / 0-)

    is going to talk about it on his show. Not that he's got that big an audience, but it'll help get it around.

  •  How to retaliate (1+ / 0-)
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    Send a mass text message to everyone on your cell phone list telling the truth about what's going on.  Make sure you suggest in the message that they forward the message to everyone on their list.  

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