Skip to main content

Desperate Republicans across the country are using robo-calls (automated dialing systems that play recorded messages) to harass voters.  Your phone rings, there's a brief recorded intro that makes it appear the call is from a Democratic campaign or related group, and then a pause, and then a recorded message.  If you hang up it calls you back six or seven times or more.  The goal is to make people think they are being harassed by the Democrats, and piss them off enough to change their votes.  It works well enough to potentially flip some close races.

This is clearly illegal under some statutes & regulations, arguably illegal under others.  It appears to be going on across the US, using the same format and methods.  If we pursue this nationally, we could bankrupt the GOP.

I'm a PBX engineer (design & program commercial telephone systems), with over 20 years in the industry.  Here's what you need to know, and how we can fight back.

This is a slightly expanded version of a posting I made in Kos' diary about this issue.

FCC regulations: automated callers must hang up when the called party hangs up.

This became an issue after robo-caller systems were preventing people calling 911 in emergencies.  In some cases people died because they could not hang up and get a dialtone because the robocaller would not let go of them.

(Tech background: telco central office switches have traditionally been configured in such a manner that the calling party controls the connection.  The called party has to hang up for between 7 - 10 seconds in order to force the line to disengage.  More recently there have been design changes that minimize this issue, but it is not completely gone.  The goal is that you should always be able to get a new dialtone by hanging up your phone for 1.5 seconds, whether you are the caller or the called party.)

As a result of the 911 emergency call cases, FCC required that these automated calling systems hang up when the called party hangs up, so the called party can get dial tone back and make an outgoing call.

It would appear that the dirty tricksters have found a way to circumvent the law by having the system release the line on each call but then keep calling back.  HOWEVER:

In many states the definition of "obscene, indecent, or harassing phone calls" includes placing repeated calls to a subscriber who does not wish to be called.  This activity obviously qualifies under those statutes; typically the violation is a misdemeanor with a penalty of up to 1 year in prison or a $1,000 fine.  It can be argued that the penalty should apply per call or per called subscriber, in any case this adds up to a potentially very large number of counts of that misdemeanor, which could bankrupt the GOP.   Think of hundreds of thousands of calls, at a $1,000 fine each.  

It can be argued that the repeat calling also violates the intent of the "release the line" regulations because if a called subscriber has the Call Waiting feature, the additional incoming calls will trigger call waiting signals, which interrupt conversation briefly each time the little "beep" sounds on the line, thereby interfering with the life-or-death conversations of emergency calls.  For example, "He's having a (beep!) attack!"  Was that a heart attack, an epileptic attack, angina, a stroke ("brain attack") or something else?  This angle is at least worth pursuing, and if nothing else, the R's attorneys will have to respond to it if it's raised as part of a civil action.

Misrepesentation!  Are they using suppressed or fake caller ID?  

One of the most common technologies available to business subscribers, "PRI service," allows a company to set its own outgoing caller ID.  Normally this is done to enable a company's PBX to provide up-to-date accurate caller ID for all the outgoing calls from various departments and extensions in the company.  For example showing the main corporate number as 555-1000, and the Customer Service department as 555-1200, and each DID number for each person in the company who needs to be direct-dialable from outside (e.g. sales reps in a conventional sales department, etc.).  

However, it is also possible to set any outgoing caller ID number you choose, and most interestingly, the telco switch searches its database to attach the listed name to that number.  For example, I could dial into one of my clients' PBX systems right now, and change their outbound caller ID to 202-456-4141.  Then when you received a call from a designated extension on that system, you would see that phone number on your display, AND the name "The White House," since (if I remember correctly) that is the listed number for the White House public comments line. _ The point here is, if the Rs or their telemarketing agents have set their outbound caller ID to something other than their correct telephone number, it may be possible to prosecute them for fraud or misrepresentation._  

Potential for generic fraud charges:

What we need is someone who will testify that they changed their vote as a result of these calls, and then subsequently learned that they had been deceived and feel that they have been cheated of their vote.  To my mind (I am not a lawyer), that constitutes fraud.  The more such people, the stronger the case.  If this is going on across the country, it could be raised as a Federal RICO case.  At minimum it should become the subject of a Congressional investigation after we take back the House.  

How to fight back:  

If you get these calls, do the following:  

Hang up, count to five seconds "(one thousand one, one thousand two", etc.), then go off-hook again to try to get a new dial tone for placing an outgoing call.  If you cannot get a new dial tone, i.e. the robocaller is still there, make a note of it.  Hanging up and then getting silence on the line is not sufficient: you have to get a new dial tone, and if you don't, that may help prosecute these cases.  If you don't get a new dial tone in 5 seconds, hang up again and count off 10 seconds.  If that doesn't work, hang up again and count 20 seconds.  Everything after 5 or at most 7 seconds is illegal, period.  Take careful notes.

Make sure you are getting their caller ID.  Almost every caller ID product has a feature that lets you scroll back over incoming calls, so when you answer a call you don't have to write the number down.  Your caller ID device will have a record of the date, time, and caller's number.  All you need to do is glance at the screen to be sure something is being recorded.  After the call is over, go back and write down what is on the screen.  You may see "private" or "no data sent" or a weird-looking string of digits such as 111-111-1111 that cannot be an actual telephone number (there will never be a 0 or 1 at the beginning of a legitimate area code or prefix).  

If you get a dialable phone number, call it back, and make note of what answers.  If you each an automated message, listen to the whole thing and write down any identifying information verbatim.  If you want to record these calls, go to Radio Snack, they have home recorder-connectors; it is not illegal to record a call that itself is a recorded voice.  (The law requires consent to record (one-party consent in some states, two-party in others); a person who has made a recorded announcement has already given consent in order to make the annuoncement.  Thus you can record their recording.)

If a robocall ends up in your voicemail or on your answering machine, save it.  Voiceprints can be identified with extraordinary precision so a recording can be used to identify the person's voice, and thus prove the name of the entity for whom they were working, later in the event of legal action.  Make a backup copy of the messages by recording it onto audio tape or your hard drive.

Also any time you get a campaign or polling call the first question you should ask is, what organization are you calling from? and then, what is the telephone number of that organization?  Write it down.  It appears that in some cases, people who have responded to poll questions in certain ways have immediately been put into robocall lists and gotten a bunch of harassing calls in a row.  If a live campaign person calls you and does not provide satisfactory information, that fact itself is of interest.  Also if the number they give you does not match the caller ID you receive, make note of that.  In some cases this is legit: home phone-banks, i.e. people calling from home for an organization.  In other cases this may lead to discovering more fraud, i.e. Rs claiming to be from a D organization.

What we need:  

Federal regulation (FCC) that simply bans ALL use of predictive dialers, automated dialers, and recorded broadcast messages except as used by public safety agencies (for example to call residents of an area to order an evacuation, as for example in a hazmat incident).   There is no other legitimate use of these machines, and telemarketers wishing to cut costs should have no standing.  Once this regulation is in effect, all telemarketers will face the level playing field of having the same cost structure, so it will not place some at a competitive advantage over others.

I'll provide free consultation

On this and other telephony-related issues for any legitimate Democratic party organization or related entity.  I've also successfully done expert witness on a telecom-related case.  If you represent an organization that has been affected by these robo-calls, i.e. a Congressional campaign or whatever, and you want to get in touch, post an email address or phone number where you can be reached.  I'll be able to return calls this evening (Sunday evening) and between 1pm and 6pm on Monday.  


==Update 1==

Something else you can do: FIRST THING MONDAY morning: Call your local Telco business office and subscribe to the Call Trace feature. This will cost you about $5 per month but it will capture calls that do not show on Caller ID, and turn the number over to Telco Security for investigation. You have to agree to press charges. You might also have to file a police report before they will turn on the feature. Police departments in progressie jurisdictions may be more amenable to this than in hardcore R jurisdictions.

In SBC/AT&T areas in California, residential business office is 1-800-288-2020, and for business subscribers, 1-800-750-BELL (BELL = 2355 on your dial). If you're not sure, dial 0 for Operator and ask for the number.

How it works: You receive a harassing call. You hang up, and then before the phone rings again, you pick up, listen for dialtone, and dial a specific feature code that your telco will provide for you. This causes the telco central office to immediately trace the correct originating number for the call. Then you file a police report on harassing calls, and this enables Telco Security to provide the phone number to the police for further action.

The reason you have to do this first thing Monday, is because it may take the telco all day to set it up, and you want to have it working for evening and overnight calls. And you can be sure there will be plenty of robocalls overnight before Election Day, to sleep-deprive voters as well as piss them off, which will cause some to miss going to the poll and others to make voting errors or change their votes.

However: DON'T let the Republican dirty-trick machine scare you. The only thing to fear is fear itself, not the fear-mongers. DO resolve to win regardless! The Rs are clearly desperate. We have them on the run. We are going to take back Congress, and then let the investigations begin!

==Update 2:==

FCC rules posted:

A+ Excellent summary of the relevant FCC rules in a posting by Juppon Gatana, the header is "These Calls Constitute MULTIPLE FCC VIOLATIONS", you can put that in a local text search on your browser, and your browser will take you right to it. I'd post a bunch of it here except this diary is getting too long as it is:-)

Educate your local prosecutor!

Lawyers & law students needed here. Call your local DA, and whatever other prosecuting attorneys exist at the county and state level, and educate them about this issue. They will be called upon to begin the prosection of these cases. They need to understand that these are not just low-level annoyance calls, they are a coordinated national campaign. They need to understand that this deserves priority as much as if it was someone overtly stealing an election. If we can get them on-side with this, the indictments will roll in scores of jurisdictions, and the Rs will have to face charges in places where they will get the book thrown at them.

How to reach your neighbors if need be:

Get a bullhorn and get in your car and drive through the district at a reasonable hour, broadcasting a message. Note, you want to have someone who has a good clear voice that sounds calm and not screechy or shouty. Female voices are more intelligible on telephones and cheap PA systems than male voices, but a good clear male voice is OK too.

Make the message simple: "Attention voters: If you have received automated telephone calls saying they are about (candidate name), those are not from (his/her) office. They are a Republican dirty trick designed to make you angry and get you to switch your vote out of spite. Do not fall for this. These calls are a nationwide dirty trick. For more information go to (URL) or call (phone number)."

Also write a letter to your neighbors, make a bunch of xerox copies, and stick it under each of their doors, for example:

"Dear neighbor. My name is (name) and I've lived in the neighborhood for (however many) years. I'm writing to alert you to a dirty trick that is being used to accect the elections. If you have received automated telephone calls saying they are about (candidate name), those are not from (his/her) office. They are a Republican dirty trick designed to make you angry and get you to switch your vote out of spite. Do not fall for this. These calls are a nationwide dirty trick. For more information go to (URL) or call (phone number). For more news on this, go to the following newspaper, radio, and TV station web sites: (list URLs). And be sure to tell your friends and family about this. Don't let the dirty-tricksters fool you. Thanks (signed, name)."

==Update 3:==

A huge list of media contacts can be found at Timroff's diary, at:

If you have additional media contacts, post a comment in this diary, put the words "media contacts" in your subject header, and then people can use the search function on their browsers to find all comments with "media contacts" in the headers.

==Update 4:==

It would appear that we have a probable suspect. We do not have conclusive proof that this is the perpetrator. However, attorneys, journalists, etc. are urged to investigate further. If you want to call these people and tell them what you think, keep in mind that you may reach a secretary who is only an employee and has no power, so be polite, don't use cusswords or other bad language, and keep your message concise and to the point.

Credit to sbwoodside for this information, via diary at:

Quoted from sbwoodside's diary:

Could be Conquest Communications Group, of Richmond, Va. according to several news stories (e.g. LINK one, LINK) based on FEC filings. Communications Group: 2812 Emerywood Parkway, Suite 103, Richmond, Virginia 23294. - PHONE (804) 358-0560 - FAX (804) 213-0797

Conquest managers:

Victor A. Gresham (founding partner) David S. Johnson (founding partner) (used to work for NRCC) Winfree W. Chewning, Jr. (SVP) Broc B. Johnson (Sr. Account Rep.)

Contact your Attorney General: list at INCLUDES PARTY AFFILIATION.

==Update 5 (Monday):==

Timroff's revised media contacts list is here:

Update 6: Monday 6 November

Help needed: The media are interested in this. If you know of anyone in New York who has saved a voicemail or answering machine recording of one or more of these calls, please contact Debra via the information below. She also has the diary that's presently at the top of the Recommended list.

Debra writes:

Been Harassed? Email me (address below) Just got off the phone with the New York State head of the DNC's official lawyers committee. She has local and national reporters who are EAGER to speak to voters who have been harassed by repetitive robocalls. We need to put some meat on the bones of this story.

If you have been called repeatedly please contact me. If you have recorded these calls even better because then it might be covered by the TV media, not just the print media. They want to speak to New York State voters only for this story.

I am the conduit for this. My email is


Here is the link to Debra's diary:

---ALSO: Re. voicemail and answering machine recordings of robocalls---

Apparently some cases are being reported where robocall messages are recorded on answering machines or voicemail, and are either cut off early in the message, or have the long pauses missing from the recording.

This is an artifact of the voicemail or answering system. In some cases these systems are sound activated, i.e. they only record when audio is present. In some cases, they are programmed to stop recording and release the line when a pause of sufficient length occurs. We are interested in both types of cases, as well as cases where a recording does capture the long pauses. Of course recordings that include the long pauses are of greatest interest, but any recording is better than none.

IF YOU HAVE any recordings at all, of these robocall messages, get in touch with Debra via her email address above, and post something to her diary saying you emailed her. (In the event she gets deluged with emails and her inbox overflows, we want to be sure she can cross-check against the replies to her diary.)

=== more news when there's news...===

Originally posted to G2geek on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:27 PM PST.

Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags


More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  What to do (26+ / 0-)

    You can complain to the FCC.
    202-418-1440, phone; 202-418-0232, fax.

    Send the NRCC your own robocalls: - price 12 cents a call.

    The NRCC's number is 202-479-7000.

  •  yes but (15+ / 0-)

    what do we do to get the word out that the repukes are doing this?

    many people (1) don't know this is the republicans, (2) are getting pissed at it and (3) don't have a way to know that it is a republican dirty trick.

  •  Gosh. (35+ / 0-)

    The quality of the expertise here is remarkable.

    Every time there's a big topic, we find someone around here who is an authority on it.  Sometimes professionally, sometimes just by avocation.

    But it is a damn fine group.

  •  What an extraordinarily useful diary (14+ / 0-)

    Recommended in hopes it can help.

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:35:27 PM PST

  •  THIS NEEDS TO BE A BIG NEWS STORY!!! (32+ / 0-)


    Every robo-call recipient should know that the harrassment is due to Republican Dirty Tricks since they have NOTHING TO offer but deception, illegality and thuggery!


    I am recommending this diary.  Please do the same...

  •  Great Info... (5+ / 0-)

    Especially with the dirty tricks going on in NH.  I'm sure you've read Republic Not Empire's diary that was promoted by Kos.

    I'm recommending to help get the word out.

  •  Nancy Boyda KS-2D (11+ / 0-)

    Has posted about this happening to her this weekend on her website.  When Paul Morrison becomes AG, I hope he prosecutes them to the max in KS.

    Winning without Delay.

    by ljm on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:39:06 PM PST

  •  Get the FCC involved (22+ / 0-)

    I'm not aware of the details, but there seems to be some more FCC regulations regarding robocalls. For example:

    In at least 53 competitive House races, the National Republican Campaign Committee has launched hundreds of thousands of automated telephone calls, known as "robocalls."

    Such calls have sparked a handful of complaints to the FCC and underscore the usefulness of the inexpensive and sometimes overwhelming political tool.

    "As much as people complain about getting automated calls and saying they don't work, every politician is doing them," said Jerry Dorchuck, whose Pennsylvania-based Political Marketing International will make about 200,000 such phone calls each hour for mostly Democratic candidates. "Targeted calls play a key in very close races."

    They can single out single women, absentee voters, independents and party faithful with tailored messages, but they also can frustrate voters. Sometimes, the latter is their goal.

    Bruce Jacobson, a software engineer from Ardmore, Pa., received three prerecorded messages in four hours. Each began, "Hello, I'm calling with information about Lois Murphy," the Democrat running against two-term incumbent Rep. Jim Gerlach in the Philadelphia-area district.

    "Basically, they go on to slam Lois," said Jacobson, who has filed a complaint with the FCC because the source of the call isn't immediately known.

    FCC rules say all prerecorded messages must "at the beginning of the message, state clearly the identity of the business, individual, or other entity that is responsible for initiating the call." During or after the message, they must give the telephone number of the caller.

    "The way they're sent is deceptive. The number of calls is harassing. The way her stances are presented in these stories is deliberately misleading and deceptive," said Karlyn Messinger, another Murphy supporter from Penn Valley, Pa., who filed a complaint with the FCC.

    NRCC spokesman Ed Patru denied any illegal intent.

    "All of our political calls are in compliance with the law," Patru said.

    Not so, said the Democrats.

    "They are violating the regulations that were set up," said Jen Psaki, a spokeswoman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who said the DCCC employed one robocall this cycle and paid $500 for it.


  •  Why are people just discovering this NOW? (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    tikkun, stilwell, artebella, Predictor

    They've been doing this for months.

  •  FRONT PAGE THIS NOW!!!!!! (15+ / 0-)

    "You think you can intimidate me? Screw you. Choose your Weapon." Eliot Spitzer

    by bonddad on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:41:00 PM PST

  •  IL-06 and IL-08 (7+ / 0-)

    Everybody I asked while canvassing yesterday for Melissa Bean said they were getting these calls. I hear that it's also happening in the Tammy Duckworth race.

  •  Would the DNC please make a national ad (16+ / 0-)

    That calls attention to this problem so that news organizations catch on to this and start reporting it?


    (Sorry for shouting, but this wave of dirty tricks is fucking freaking me out.)

    I have a feeling the MSM is going to do nothing to reveal what the hell is happening. We as a party MUST get this into the CW and deflect the power of these calls.

  •  I am printing this (13+ / 0-)

    and carrying copies with me when i canvass tomorrow for John Hall.  We got blasted today by people who have been harassed all weekend, some of whom say they are no longer leaning towards voting for Hall BECAUSE OF THE PHONE CALLS!!!  This is deadly in a tight race.  The folks I speak to tomorrow may not want to listen to my explanation, but I can had them this and ask them to at least look into who really called them.

    •  I would lead with a question about the calls.... (3+ / 0-)

      ..."have you heard about the Republicans' Robo-Calls that pretend they're from John Hall?"  

      Then hand them the info...and ask them to tell their friends and pass the word along.

      This late in the game it's going to be whatever we can get the media to do, plus word of mouth.

      Arrange a picket line at RNCC offices; get local media to be there:


      More thoughts below...

      Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

      by WarrenS on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:08:06 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Questions (from a related post) (6+ / 0-)


    The NRCC number is (202) 479-7000.  There are lots of us with lots of friends.  What would happen if everyone called once?

    Also, can anyone trace these calls?  For example, has anyone tried ?  Are they all coming from the same number or same set of numbers?  And, if so, who owns the numbers?

    Can anyone tape these calls and maybe forward them to the networks?  If so, I think the calls should be edited to cut out the harmful portion.  Just leave in the beginning and end (the end portion with the GOPig identification)

    Can we form a coordinated effort to force the mainstream media into covering the GOPig sabotage?  Can anyone post points of contact for AP, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, etc?

    What if everyone were to make a lot of calls to the numbers from where these calls are originating?  Is that possible?  Would that prevent outgoing harassing calls?  Is this legal?

    Can our campaigns engage in similar (but legal) actions with "fake" GOPig calls?

    Does anyone know the locations from which the calls are being made?  If so, could a crew with video-cameras stake out the places and "query" people who work there?  Or, gain entry and document what goes on inside?

  •  I posted a reply (3+ / 0-)

    to Steve Jarding with a link over here.
    Thanks so much G2geek!

    George Allen is an ignorant racist pig who is in the pocket of Big Bidness.

    by emmasnacker on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:54:57 PM PST

  •  Thank you. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    SecondComing, Empower Ink

    Fear will keep the local systems in line. -Grand Moff Tarkin Survivor Left Blogistan

    by boran2 on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:57:24 PM PST


    If we all e-mail everyone we know in targeted states, and tell them about what is going on with these robo-calls and ask them to pass the information along, we can try to counter the sabotage on a grassroots level.  Wouldn't it be great if this definitive evidence of Republican corruption could be what finally helps Democrats succeed in toppling the Republican efforts to undermine our democracy.

    In your e-mails to friends and family, link to this post as well as other posts about the robo-calls, like:

    more dkos info on calls

    more on how to record the calls

  •  What if you have called the RNCC (7+ / 0-)

    a total of 4 times in a 2 week period and demanded to be taken off their calling list?  I have spoken to a real live person who took my name and number each time, and shocking! My household is still getting called.

    Is that harassment?

    America: Arsenal of Democracy

    by YukonJack on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:04:31 PM PST

  •  I'm still getting spammed (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ucla grad102

    by the companies that provide robocalling services.

    Is it ethical to post the sales reps' direct phone numbers?

    51,245 votes for US Senator.

    by ben masel on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:06:22 PM PST

  •  Will MSM cover this? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    SecondComing, breakingranks

    I doubt it.  They can't do anything that requires them to get of their ass and do some quick reporting.

    •  Not to mention (3+ / 0-)

      Big technical words like PBX are just so hard to understand...

      •  ha funny; a PBX is not a robocall machine... (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:

        PBX = Private Branch Exchange, a commercial telephone system used in offices and suchlike, having the ability to route inbound and outbound calls depending on analysis of dialed number information.  

        Contrast to a "key system," which is a commercial telephone system used in offices etc., which does not have routing capabilities.  

        With a PBX, you dial 9 or press an Outgoing button, dial your desired number, and the system decides if the call should be handled via the regular external carrier (e.g. AT&T) or via a competing carrier (e.g. lower-cost long distance services), or via some other means such as a company's own "tie-line trunks" which can be conventional trunks such as T1 or PRI, or nowadays can be VOIP.  The routing happens instantly, you don't know or care which trunk group it is being sent over; it just works and your call goes through.  This is not just a cost-savings issue but an issue of how networks are built and traffic is balanced among routes.  

        With a key system, you have a separate button for each outside line or other carrier route, and you press the appropriate button to manually choose which one to use for any given call.  

        Generally, if a system is larger than 3 - 4 outside lines and 6 - 8 telephones, or if it needs voicemail with auto-attendant for inbound calls, it's cost-effective to have a PBX.  I'll resist the temptation to advertise for my company at this point:-).  

        PBXs and key systems have exactly nothing in common with robocall machines.  A robocaller is typically a PC that's driving a bunch of telephone line interfaces.  It does not process incoming or outgoing calls, it simply sits there and dials out and plays a pre-recorded message.  IMHO these things ought to be illegal to possess, and more so to use.  

    •  We have to spoon-feed it to them. (5+ / 0-)

      A tape-recording of one of the calls, along with a description of the process, and a bunch of strong follow-up.  This is something for local broadcast people to grab.

      I will write up a generic press release and post it here shortly.

      Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

      by WarrenS on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:10:15 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Only if they can present it as "bipartisan" (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      nomes, jkilkullen

      If there is no evidence that Dems are using these kinds of calls, and the MSM decides that republican attempts at pulling such evidence out of their asses are too heavy-handed, they'll bury the story. Why? Because the wingers have worked hard for decades to drive home the message that they're willing to raise hell in response to any attack that singles them out "as unfairly biased". And it works. It's madness, but it works.  

      Damn George Bush! Damn everyone that won't damn George Bush! Damn every one that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning George Bush!

      by brainwave on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:24:38 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  DO NOT CALL LISTS (3+ / 0-)

    I am registered with every do not call list available.  do these calls violate any of those rules?

    •  depends (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Fabian, Snakes on a White House

      generically, political and non-profit are exempt - nice little loophole the politicians wrote themselves there, eh? But it sounds like specifically, some states have their own rules.

      •  Ah, yes but according to Federal Law (11+ / 0-)

        if they use a prerecorded message they must identify who they are at the beginning of the call.  This is regardless of whether ot not they are political or non-profit calls.

        The applicable law is in the Code of Federal Regulations 47 CFR section 64.1200

        (b) All artificial or prerecorded telephone messages shall:
           (1) At the beginning of the message, state clearly the identity of the business, individual, or other entity that is responsible for initiating the call. If a business is responsible for initiating the call, the name under which the entity is registered to conduct business with the State Corporation Commission (or comparable regulatory authority) must be stated, and
           (2) During or after the message, state clearly the telephone number (other than that of the autodialer or prerecorded message player that placed the call) of such business, other entity, or individual. The telephone number provided may not be a 900 number or any other number for which charges exceed local or long distance transmission charges. For telemarketing messages to residential telephone subscribers, such telephone number must permit any individual to make a do-not-call request during regular business hours for the duration of the telemarketing campaign.

        This is the Federal law.  You may also have additional laws depending on which state you live in.

        The kind of robocalling where the message does not clearly state it is the Republican party or candidate calling, instead attempting to make the caller think it is from the Democrats, is already a violation of Federal law.

        Why doesn't someone in the Democratic party get thier lawyers to request an emergency injunction against this to stop it right now?

        •  Ahh, but what constitutes the "beginning" (0+ / 0-)

          of the call? This is a matter for later (6 mos down the road) litigation, after the damage is done.

          And the law sez "during or after" as to providing a number to call back at - whaddya bet the number is ALWAYS given after, and never during?

          You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass the guilty.
          - Jessica Mitford

          by Swampfoot on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:42:51 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  not an issue... (0+ / 0-)

            The begining of the message is the first sentence, and there is no dispute about that, nor can there be.

            "Hello.  I am calling on behalf of (name of company or organization).  (blah blah blah)"

            They may try to finagle it on other issues, but as of the information we have here today, we have them pinned down so tightly it's highly unlikely they will manage to get away with this one.  

  •  Read the original post again (8+ / 0-)

    Any call back by a robocall after the called party hangs up once is a violation.

    So any repetition is a violation.  Whether you're on the no call list or not.

  •  Ohio and Penn and ? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    Don't we, and aren't we about to basically take over govt. in these states?  Why aren't our people working to make these tactics explicitly illegal (among the many other known Rethug dirty tricks)?  These are key states we need to win in '08, no?

    The thing with politicians is I wouldn't have suspicions if I saw their worst positions and their ugly underneath...

    by mstarr77 on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:10:52 PM PST

  •  Useful advice (3+ / 0-)

    Great post and very informative!

  •  asdf (10+ / 0-)

    This is happening all over the country?

    Good grief, the Republicans are very pathetic.

    Just a suggestion, but if you phonebank tomorrow and Tuesday, address this with the voters. Ask them if they are getting these calls and explain it to them. Obviously, the Repubs are pissing people off. We have to counter act that as much as possible.

    Great diary. Recommended!

  •  Hey look here (4+ / 0-)

    Mailing Address

    National Republican Congressional Committee
    320 First Street, S.E
    Washington, D.C. 20003

    Phone Numbers

    NRCC Main Number - (202) 479-7000

    News Media Inquiries - (202) 479-7070

    Information on Contributing - (202) 479-7030

    To contact us by email, please send a message to

    NRCC Staff Roster



    Sally Vastola, Executive Director
    Don McGahn, General Counsel



    Chris Ward, Controller



    Tara Snow, Finance Director

    Mike McElwain, Political Director
    Jonathan Poe, National Field Director
    Larry Telford, Director of Incumbent Retention


    Carl Forti, Director of Communications

  •  How realistic is it (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    SecondComing, G2geek, docangel

    to think that the laws will be enforced? I don't mean to sound like a pessimist, but we have seen Republicans systematically violate both national and international law with absolutely no consequences.

    Who has jurisdiction over matters like this? It seems that if it were a national robocalling campaign authority to prosecute would fall to the Department of Justice. If so, what's to stop Alberto Gonzalez from stonewalling the process?

    Serenity now, insanity later.

    by chicagovigilante on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:14:18 PM PST

  •  I just sent the following letter... (5+ / 0-) everyone on Timroff's media lists:


    NRCC Robo-Calls: Not Fattening, but Definitely Illegal and Immoral

    As a concerned citizen, I am appalled at the rash of robo-calls placed by the RNCC.

    As reported by Joshua Marshall, the operation works like this:

    What we're seeing is an apparent coordinated effort from the NRCC -- the House GOP committee -- to place calls that appear to be from the local Democratic candidate and then automatically call the same number back as many as seven or eight times each time the caller hang-ups. If the caller listens to the whole message it goes on to bash the Democratic candidate. But if the caller hangs up prematurely, the computer calls right back. Hang-ups are the achilles heel of robo-calls. So this seems to be an attempt to cover for that weakness by making those who hang up think the Democratic candidate is basically harassing them with phone calls. The GOP wins either way.

    ...As described, the calls appear to be in violation of federal regulations which mandate that these calls clearly identify their origin. The repetitive call back may also be a violation in different states. The New Hampshire AG apparently just intervened to force the NRCC to stop the calls in that state. But frankly, none of that matters. Because the folks placing the calls factor in the price of whatever fines might be meted out after the election when the damage is already done.

    This is a crucial story.  These calls are happening in PA, NH, CT, NY and no doubt elsewhere in the country.
    Please do your part as journalists and report on it.  Marshall's notes are at:
    Jill Porter of the Philadelphia Inquirer has already noted it at:

    But this information is vitally important.  Please cover this story in as much detail as possible.

    Thank you for your attention.

    Yours sincerely,


    Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

    by WarrenS on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:17:37 PM PST

    •  Everyone...please do this: (7+ / 0-)

      email the above letter posted by WarrenS to your local media.  Go to your local TV and radio stations' websites and use their contact list to find the newstips address.

      Do it right now.

      In Cleveland, I sent to:

      We need to get multiple email alerts to them so they'll realize something is afoot.

      This is happening all over the country.  Please don't assume it's not happening where you live.

      Also alert your local Dem HQ.

    •  Done (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Winnie, docangel, WarrenS

      Thanks for the heads-up.

      I included this link to Josh Marshall's blog entry on the robocalls:

      If you're going to follow suit, I recommend including that link, and a brief note of your won about why this story is important and how the NRCC is trying to slide this dirty trick by before the media gets the word out to let people know what's really going on.

  •  Verizon customers: (6+ / 0-)
    If you are a Verizon landline (not wireless) customer, you do not have to subscribe in advance to Call Trace.  You can activate Call Trace by hanging up on the illegal call and then dialing *57 from a "fresh" dial tone.  In some areas, there is a charge of 75 cents or one dollar if you are not a Call Trace subscriber.

    more information from Verizon

    •  i hope you're right; check to be sure... (0+ / 0-)

      That sounds excellent.  However, call your telco business office to be sure.

      The codes may be different in different areas.  Verizon used to be GT&E, which used to use GTE switches in their central offices, and the feature codes for those are different from the AT&T and NorTel switches used by the Bell Operating Companies such as AT&T/SBC.  

      Also there may be policy issues; you may have to call your local police to report harrassing calls before you use the code.  

      However, call your telco first thing money morning to find out, and then proceed.  

      One you're sure that it will work, use it for EVERY robocall, not just the first one or the second one.  Use it every single time.  This is necessary to document that these machines are making repeat calls to each number in violation of FCC rules.  

    •  Qwest is the same (0+ / 0-)

      star 57 then file a police report.  Telco will give the info to the officer to follow up on.  I don't know if there's a charge.

  •  Practically (5+ / 0-)

    Since each call is going to cost the rethugs for the call, as well as for the fine for the call.

    Make sure to keep hanging up and counting the calls. Evbery time they call you back its another immediate cost to the thugs and another fine.

    Think of it as good use of 10 minutes costing them major $$.

    The Number of the Beast 72-25

    by Deep Dark on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:23:47 PM PST

  •  911 (5+ / 0-)

    Does anyone know if somebody's emergency call to 911 has been jammed by the GOPigs?  If so, it should be publicized immediately, loudly, and for a long time.

    •  THIS IS THE LEAD - "GOP JAMS 911!" (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Coherent Viewpoint

      Who the fuck cares if it's happened or not, start saying it, start repeating it, and all our talking heads should start saying it on TV, and blow past any requests for "explanation."

      It COULD happen, so surely it already has.

      This will be the most effective last-minute frame, I think:


      You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass the guilty.
      - Jessica Mitford

      by Swampfoot on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:49:29 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  That reminds me of ... (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:

        In a way that reminds me of a story about the former mayor of Chattanooga, TN:  Corker and the problems with the 911 system.

      •  be careful how you say this (0+ / 0-)

        DO NOT say that it IS happening UNLESS you have PROOF.  

        DO say that it is POSSIBLE and LIKELY to occur, and that the Rs methods increase the likelihood of it occurring.  


        The way to handle this issue is via the technical angle:

        One:  The robocall machines are not releasing the called parties' lines as required by FCC rules.  This means that if a robocall comes in and a person has an emergency, they will not be able to get a dial tone to call 911.  

        Two:  Repeat calls can interfere with emergency calls in progress.  You're on the phone with 911 and the repeat calls keep triggering your call waiting, and you get the call waiting beep interfering with your conversation with the 911 dispatcher.  This could result in help being sent to the wrong address, or not getting the specific type of help you need.  



        Solicit cases of this type.  Get out there and find out if any have occurred.  If so, there will be a 911 dispatch tape with the caller saying they'e been trying to call but the robocall machine was blocking them, or that they are getting call waiting beeps while trying to talk to the 911 dispatcher.  

        DO NOT try to fake this.  DO NOT make fictitious calls to 911 when you get a robocall.  You will be prosecuted for falsely reporting an incident.  Crime is what the Rs do.  Not what we do.  Play it fair and square, stay within the law, do not do anything that would give the Rs even the slightest excuse or counter-arguement.  If there are real cases out there, they will come to light; all it takes is one.  

      •  Laura Bush just called me in Ohio (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        bayside, Iowa Boy

        The number came across as "private" - we have a Verizon land line.  I cursed and hung up - counted 2 seconds , picked up the phone and the evil witch was still talking.  Hung up again waited 2 seconds and she was still talking.  Did this 3 times - she never quit talking until her message was over.  

        "If we don't turn around, we just may get where we're going." American Indian saying

        by buckeye voter on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 07:32:50 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  3 articles on (6+ / 0-)

    Google news search.

    If you've gotten these calls, or can call or e-mail your local daily about this, there may be time to spark some enterprising reporter into doing a story for evening editions tomorrow or Tu. morning.
    Newspapers. Lots of them.  

    George Allen is an ignorant racist pig who is in the pocket of Big Bidness.

    by emmasnacker on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:26:00 PM PST

    •  Hmn, one of those articles you link to (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      has this to say:

      It's not just Republicans. After Rep. Mark Foley resigned his seat amid the House page scandal, the progressive American Family Voices launched robocalls in 50 districts.

      "Congressional Republican leaders, including Speaker Dennis Hastert, covered up for a child sexual predator. ... The answer is arrests, resignations and a new congressional leadership," the call told voters.

      That Florida district, once a safe Republican seat, is now in play.

  •  I think I've been scammed by this RoboCall. (10+ / 0-)

    Also any time you get a campaign or polling call the first question you should ask is, what organization are you calling from? and then, what is the telephone number of that organization?  Write it down.  It appears that in some cases, people who have responded to poll questions in certain ways have immediately been put into robocall lists and gotten a bunch of harassing calls in a row.  If a live campaign person calls you and does not provide satisfactory information, that fact itself is of interest.  Also if the number they give you does not match the caller ID you receive, make note of that.  In some cases this is legit: home phone-banks, i.e. people calling from home for an organization.  In other cases this may lead to discovering more fraud, i.e. Rs claiming to be from a D organization.

    I posted this comment tonight and a similar post the other night:

    Interesting. I complained earlier in the week that I had been getting robo-calls on my cell phone.  I NEVER use it to sign up for anything and I have never received a telemarketer/robo-call in the 7 years I've had this number.  I keep it locked down tighter than Republicans keep state secrets (rehashed from a previous comment on the subject!)

    How in the hell did they get that number?  Something is fishy here.

    by Scout Finch on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 04:37:13 PM PST

    The first call was at least a week ago and it was a live person.  It was a 212 area code and I picked up because I have lots of friends/contacts in NYC, but it turns out to be a "pollster" asking if I wouldn't mind answering a few questions on a proposed soccer tax for land and a new stadium - I agreed to answer the questions.  Before she asked me anything, I said "but, can you tell me how you got this number."  And she said "hold on," she was only gone for a second and came back and said in a hurry "oh, we just filled our quota, bye."  click.

    Ever since then I've been getting Republican robo-calls....on my freakin' cell phone and I have not once ever voted for or donated to a Republican.
    I'm thinking that I need to look at my phone bill and post that number here for a little research.

  •  Great job - thank you. n/t (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    SecondComing, llbear

    Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
      Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
    Tempest even in reason's seat.

    by GreyHawk on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:27:27 PM PST

  •  Most of the robocalls are placed from untraceable (4+ / 0-)

    phones. Two months ago I got slammed with3 robocalls in a row, 15 mins apart: 1 Conrad Burns, 1 Republican, 1 Democrat (or rather, anti-Libertarian) sponsored. All came from phone numbers that couldn't be traced. I immediately signed up for anoymous call blocking (for an extra $1 per month) and no more anonymous robo calls.

    Here in MT, the "progressives" are just a guilty as the R's. And, it may be perfectly legal in the case of federal (as opposed to state) election issues.

    My biggest beef with the constant phone calls (we're called at least twice a week by human Democrats) is that while we're committed to doing the right thing, when we ask to be taken off "reminder" list, we still get called anyways (my wife is a D precinct co-chair). There's something fundamentally wrong with the D call lists here, and it's not making any friends.

  •  Darn! And I was hoping... (6+ / 0-) were going to give us a secret button code we could press to fry their systems!

    Oh well. Back to studying Tesla...

    Filleann an feall ar an bhfeallaire. The treachery returns to the betrayer. A crushing primary defeat for every Vichy Democrat who enables Bush.

    by ibonewits on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:40:43 PM PST

  •  I did some calling tonight and was told by (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    highacidity, HollywoodOz, docangel

    several callers they have been inundated with calls.  I said I have not received one call. Also, can someone please explain how this works???

    However, it is also possible to set any outgoing caller ID number you choose, and most interestingly, the telco switch searches its database to attach the listed name to that number.  For example, I could dial into one of my clients' PBX systems right now, and change their outbound caller ID to 202-456-4141.  Then when you received a call from a designated extension on that system, you would see that phone number on your display, AND the name "The White House," since (if I remember correctly) that is the listed number for the White House public comments line. The point here is, if the Rs or their telemarketing agents have set their outbound caller ID to something other than their correct telephone number, it may be possible to prosecute them for fraud or misrepresentation.  

    If the number comes up 123-456-7890, how are you suppose to track who is calling you?

    Bush's Last Day - 01-20-2009 -6.25 -5.85

    by pmob5977 on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:49:34 PM PST

    •  555-5555 (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      I got that number on my caller ID yesterday, and just didn't pick it up.
      (555 numbers are fake, of course)

    •  Here's how that works. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Coherent Viewpoint, Iowa Boy

      Caller ID is what the telco provides to the end-user.

      What goes on behind the scenes is different:  ANI, Automatic Number Identification.  This is not normally provided to end-users, but it is available within the telco switch (and is normally used for billing and other functions) and also to law enforcement.  

      Some telcos provide ANI to certain types of subscribers, for example businesses that have large inbound call centers, so when you dial customer service, your actual number shows up at the company and brings up your customer record on their computers to save time for both you and the CS employee.  

      When you use the Call Trace feature, it in turn uses ANI to capture the actual telephone number that is calling you.  


      How PRI provides the ability to fake a Caller ID number:  I'm not sure I want to publish the details of how to do that.  Bottom line is, it's a legitimate feature but it can be used for illegitimate purposes, just as a car can be used for a bank robbery.  

      When you get one of those faked caller ID numbers, i.e. anything with a 1 as the first digit of the area code or prefix, or anything with a 555 as the area code or prefix, be sure to keep the record of that call.  The fact that the Rs are spoofing their Caller ID in that way is probably illegal as hell.

      And also, anyone who sets up a PBX or other equipment using PRI trunks, knows how to set the outbound caller ID variables, so the Rs can't claim ignorance as an excuse.  The equipment itself, in its default condition out of the box, should leave that variable as a blank space unless someone fills it in.  If the variable is left blank, then the telco will use the "main billing telephone number" as the number to send via outbound caller ID.  This number may or may not be the same as their lead trunk number, but at least it provids a means of proving who made the call.  

      Bottom line is, if you are getting nonexistent telephone numbers on your caller ID, such as 123-456-7890 etc., then someone deliberately decided to spoof the caller ID, and that is criminally liable under the FCC regs.  

      •  Not so uncommon (0+ / 0-)

        A lot of fax machines and telephony software also provide the ability to set the number that shows up in caller id. The important thing to remember is that it's relatively easy to spoof this number and it's against the law to use this feature to deceive the persons receiving the phone call.

        •  You're confusing two different things (0+ / 0-)

          The setting on FAX machines is for setting the phone number in the banner at the top or bottom of each page that's added by the sender. That's required by law, I believe, but is a completely separate issue from the caller ID stuff that G2geek described.

          We're all in this together.

          by Coherent Viewpoint on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 11:46:19 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  You are right (0+ / 0-)

            I work on a web-site that uses fax server software that generates thousands of faxes a day over dedicated phone/data lines so I shouldn't have said fax machine when I was referring to something different. It comes from talking to my customers and trying to keep it simple. You are correct in saying that fax machines only allow you to set the return fax number that appears on the fax cover or headers or footers.

  •  is this Rove's October surprise? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    txlawgrl, means are the ends
    •  maybe not the only one (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      nomes, Winnie, AllisonInSeattle

      NEVER let your guard down.  Never underestimate the enemy.  The moment you think the attack is over, they will come at you from an unexpected direction.  Keep up the fight until it's well and truly won and done and over.

      You can be sure Rove has a few other things up his sleeve.  

      Do not let him scare you.  At root he is nothing more than a playground bully who never grew up, a snotty brat who gets his rocks off by "playing pranks."  The only difference between him and your garden-variety junior delinquint is that he gets paid for it.  

      Like any delinquint he is dangerous.  But he can be caught and stopped and then dragged into court to face the music.  Right now we have the equivalent of an online neighborhood watch, and we-all have spotted his footprints in the mud near the scene of the vandalism.  Next step is to call the cops and get him arrested.  

      Keep at it, keep fighting, we can win this time, and then it's game over for Karl and his gang.  

  • (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Dr Seuss, means are the ends

    Someone submitted this storie to and anybody with a login can vote it up here.

    Not life, but good life, is to be chiefly valued.

    by TheSwampDweller on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:00:04 PM PST

  •  Here is the DNC e-mail. (8+ / 0-)

    Write them and beg for a press conference for tomorrow!  

    Somebody with national profile.

    Include links to the information here, and let them know that our GOTV people are getting hammered on the doorsteps!

    We need national exposure on this.

    Tell Dean to scream!  Tell him to get the Big Dog to slam!

    Of all the GOP BS that's come down, this is one we can do something about.

    Is the victim moral? -- Nietzsche.

    by oxon on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:06:52 PM PST

  •  The column from the Philly Daily News (0+ / 0-)

    is now on the Kos front page.

  •  Has anyone gotten calls on their cell phones? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    This year I have received ZERO unsolicited election-related calls, since I only have a cell phone and no land line, and it's illegal to solicit calls for ANY reason to a cell #.

    However, I wonder if I'm just lucky here. Has anyone gotten such calls on their cell phones, or knows of anyone who has? Given that this is illegal, and that for many people such calls cost them money or at least eat into their alloted monthly minutes, any such calls would probably be even more incriminating and involve yet more laws broken than calls made to land lines.

    I would just LOVE to bankrupt the RNC and see it destroyed, both literally and in the eyes of the wider public--with some of its leaders frog-marched off to jail--as a result of this scam. Why bother with doing this the hard way via the political process when they're handing us a wonderful way to do this via the legal process? Whatever works!

    I'm going to start referring to them all as GOPfellas!

    What'll you do when you get lonely
    And nobody's waiting by your side?
    You've been running and hiding much too long.
    You know it's just your foolish pride.

    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

    by kovie on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:25:59 PM PST

    •  just wrong numbers about 2 hours ago, in fact (0+ / 0-)

      I love it when they argue with you, or fail to understand

      "You have the wrong number." !!!

      Must be brain dead Republicans.

      Next one I get, I'm going to have some fun.
      They call my cellphone, it's gonna be a wild time.

      NHDP Coordinated Campaign Manchester Office Phone: 625-0010 Address: 379 Elm St. Hampton Office Phone: 929-7007 Address: 356 Lafayette Rd.

      by shpilk on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:48:08 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yup (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      I'm in IN-09 and have gotten about 10 Repub calls on my  cell (some robo-calls, some live people) in the past 2 weeks.  All stated who they were at the beginning of the call though.

      "You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." - GW, June 4, 2003

      by weirdmusic657 on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:24:20 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I'd suggest you contact the DNC (0+ / 0-)

        or some other entity that might be able to do something with this info. If this is coming from or coordinated with the RNC or even a local campaign, it could be used against them. This is just crazy, and they've got to be held accountable for it.

        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

        by kovie on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:35:02 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Must get injunctions or restraining orders PRONTO (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
  •  A Sample Press Release (6+ / 0-)

    Please copy and modify as appropriate.

    For Immediate Release
    November 6, 2006
    Politics, Local News, National News

    Misleading Robo-Calls Confuse and Anger Voters

    In the last few hours before the election, the National Republican Campaign Committee (NRCC) appears to have violated the law in its use of misleading Robo-Calls, automated telephone calls which deliver a pre-recorded message to the recipient.

    NRCC-sponsored phone calls have been ringing off the hook at the homes of voters throughout (your District here).  The calls purport to be from (Democrat), announcing "important information about (name)."  A long silence is followed by a negative message.  If the recipient hangs up, the telephone rings again, and the whole process repeats as many as seven or eight times.  If the recipient listens to the entire message, it is noted at the end that the call was sponsored by the NRCC; most voters, however, will be angered and frustrated by the repeat calls and will associate them with the (name) campaign.

    (Campaign Director for (name)) said, "(insert quote about how despicable this is).  The (name) campaign will be seeking an injunction to halt the misleading calls, and calls on voters throughout (district) to spread the word about the latest attempt at misinformation and manipulation from the National Republican Campaign Committee."

    A press conference will be held at:

    A demonstration will be held at:

    for more information, please call:


    Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

    by WarrenS on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:27:53 PM PST

  •  Great diary, but... (13+ / 0-)

    The damage has already been done, and fines imposed months from now won't help win back the voters' hearts and minds on Tuesday.  The Republican campaign thieves know about the fines, and they are prepared to pay them.  We need a strong response, and we need it now.  How about some radio/TV ads:

    "The latest Republican dirty trick is to is to make intentionally harassing phone calls to your home, and try to make you believe it is Democrats who are harassing you.  They will call you at 5am, 6am, during your dinner.  When you hang up, they will call back repeatedly, up to 6 times.  The recording will imply that the call is on behalf of a Democratic candidate, but make no mistake - it is bought and paid for by Republicans.

    That's right, the latest Republican campaign strategy is to make prank phone calls to your home. Isn't it time for new leadership in Congress?  Vote Democrat for change."

    •  need a youtube video of these calls (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      docangel, martik, jkilkullen

      Need to have someone make a quick youtube video of these calls. For example they are sure to call tomorrow morning, have the camcorder ready for the call. Video it then post  on youtube and send link to all news outlets.

    •  Not so fast, think about 08, long term intersts (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      nomes, Coherent Viewpoint

      Thats great but look to 2008, if the republican party commitees ahve to pay of millions in debt (people are throwing that 100 million number around im sure it could be more) but even if it were only 10, 25, or 50 thats HUGE coming into the presidental race and even just looking at the congressional races then, state parties are probably also doing this. Agreed the damage has already done, but we are looking to rebuild the America that we believe in and that is way more then a short term thought.

      You see things that are and ask, "Why?" I dream things that never were and ask, "Why not?"

      by New Frontier on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:10:48 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  the damage can be fixed (0+ / 0-)

      Get the word out ASAP as per your press release and the other one up there.  When people realize they have had the wool pulled over their eyes they will be twice as pissed off, but this time, pissed off at the Rs.  

  •  When I'm phone banking I don't know the number (0+ / 0-)

    ...that I'm calling from. Especially if it's a system that dials automatically. Someone might ask me who I'm calling for, and I can tell them that, but I have no idea what number I'm calling from. So my legitimate call might seem suspect. If they can't ID the number, where does that leave me and the campaign I'm calling for?

    I suppose I could have them call the campaign HQ, but still...doesn't this present a problem?

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair

    by Noodles on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:30:03 PM PST

    •  You are not a robo call (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      You are not calling back repeatedley.

      This is the crux of the issue. Your phonebanking activities are 100%.

      NHDP Coordinated Campaign Manchester Office Phone: 625-0010 Address: 379 Elm St. Hampton Office Phone: 929-7007 Address: 356 Lafayette Rd.

      by shpilk on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:45:22 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Can somebody put together a video... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ctsteve, campskunk, docangel

    ...for YouTube, quickly?

    Show a person getting harassed by these calls, then make the point that they're coming from the Republicans, and close with: Don't Let The Republicans Fool You Again!  Spread the Word to your Friends and Family about Republican Robo-Calling!

    Please?  Please?

    If there are production costs associated with putting something together before the end of the night, email me and I'll help.  Anyone else ready to match funds for a video wizard out there?

    Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

    by WarrenS on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:33:14 PM PST

    Recommended by:
    docangel, rcbowman, Iowa Boy

    IF the Dems were smart, they would file a lawsuit tomorrow in every district where the robocalls are occurring and put out a press release.  Who cares if the suits have merit.  File them as violations of election laws, or nuisance suits or RICO claims.  WHATEVER.  Draw attention to the nasty tactic and it will backfire.

    I only wish they were that smart.

    The only thing you find in the middle of the road are double yellow lines and dead armadillos - Jim Hightower

    by Bushed but not defeated on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:45:05 PM PST

    •  In NH the AG's Office is already on it (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Iowa Boy

      Why, oh why is it every news items seems like a chance to bash Democrats?

      NHDP Coordinated Campaign Manchester Office Phone: 625-0010 Address: 379 Elm St. Hampton Office Phone: 929-7007 Address: 356 Lafayette Rd.

      by shpilk on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:23:39 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Robocalls and box cutters (10+ / 0-)

      There is a simple beauty to Rovian techniques.  He tends to get a lot of bang for his buck, and without drawing the mainstream's eye enough to prevent the damage he inflicts.  I have felt from the early days of this campaign cycle we needed to inoculate the public to the insidiousness of Rove's techniques by pointing out that dirty and insidious tricks will be played, don't take anything for granted.  His "destroy" techniques rely on a few guiding principles.  He likes them cheap, he likes them dirty, and he likes them to run themselves.  He won't opt for an ad if a whisper campaign or push poll will work.  He prefers innuendo and rumor.  Nuance is not lost on this man.  Robocalls are a cheap and efficient use of resources, if you know people despise them and you are willing to mislead the recipients into thinking it was the other guys who called.  He likes to be invisible and untraceable.  Well, this robocall thing might just be the Waterloo wherehe's caught with the box cutter in his hand, using a cheap and nasty instrument to hijack the elections.

    you learn something new every day, if you're paying attention

    by jhop7 on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:46:45 PM PST

  •  I had an interesting robocall earlier today. (4+ / 0-)

    The message itself was vile, it was in support of Amendment 40 in Colorado, which is the Judicial Term Limits amendment, and the call was talking about evil liberal activist judges and it actually said (exact quote) "they are going to take Sunday away". Well, when it said that, I kinda sighed and said out-loud, in exasperation and frustration, "Go Fuck Yourself". The call immediately disconnected and went to dial tone.

    I don't know if it was a wierd coincidence, or if their equipment knows to hang up when someone speaks, or what, but it was very odd, and has me kinda puzzled.

    Any ideas?

    •  Robots have feelings too (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Squirrel2634, doinaheckuvanutjob

      I believe that the answer is simple: you hurt the robot's feelings.

    •  how that works... (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      It is very simple to get call processors of any type to respond to voices.  It is also theoretically possible to get them to respond differently depending on variables such as intonation, inflection, and rhythm.  Also think about those voice-recognition systems used for automated call handling, for example, "please tell us your account number..."  "to accept say Yes or press 1..." etc.

      However, if I were Karl Rove and I had those types of resources, I would have it call you back five times after you told it to go f--- itself.  

      If we get additional reports of this type we might be able to find a pattern and see what's causing it.  

    •  I got a similar one (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      and responded with "bullshit."  It didn't hang up on me but went on to finally id itself as paid for by the republicans-as if I couldnt guess. Apparently I didnt hurt its feelings enough.

      Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!

      by barbwires on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 02:38:37 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  It might be legal (0+ / 0-)

    The federal DNC legislation specifically excluded political calls from do not call penalties.

    Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk. - Thoreau

    by harrier on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:02:07 PM PST

    •  not pre-recorded ones (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      G2geek, Coherent Viewpoint

      in the State of NH it's a felony, and a $5,000 fine.

      If you are on the Do Not Call Registry {which I am}, it's $5,000 a pop. Grab the line or not. Just the robocall itself appears to be good enough.

      "It is not permissable to send prerecorded political calls to individuals who are on the Do Not Call list in New Hampshire," said Assistant Attorney General Jim Kennedy.

      While political calls are exempt from the federal Do Not Call regulations, New Hampshire modified that law when the state adopted it. It makes prerecorded political messages illegal if they're called to people on the registry.

      I suggest that we work on this one in every State in the Union. Make it a privacy issue for the first 100 days, a  Democratic issue to the start of the House in 2007, in Washington and in every State.

      NHDP Coordinated Campaign Manchester Office Phone: 625-0010 Address: 379 Elm St. Hampton Office Phone: 929-7007 Address: 356 Lafayette Rd.

      by shpilk on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:21:29 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  This is one of the most important diaries (5+ / 0-)

    I have ever read here.  Thanks, G2G!

    My apologies to students who took my U.S. Government class in the 90s: evidently the Constitution doesn't limit Presidential power after all. Who knew?

    by Major Danby on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:35:24 PM PST

  •  Media Contact List!!!! Starting writing!!!! (0+ / 0-),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Set 2: New York Times, WaPo, LA Times and other National Print media,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, <,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,</p>

    Set 3: Misc. National media including Newswires Radio Magazines and Internet,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Frames not Names!!!!

    by bikko100 on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:42:42 PM PST

  •  In addition to excellent ideas here (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Winnie, neroden

    . . . a couple more I posted in georgia10's frontpage story:

    We need a quick turnaround ad exposing the Republican robocalls.  Maybe something like,

    As if the Republicans haven't done enough to keep us up at night . . . now they're hoping you won't know who is calling you at all hours . . .

    Also, a rapid e-mail right away to every single Democrat on DNC and other nationwide lists telling them how to record these calls and report them.

    And tell people that before they turn in at night, they can turn off the ringer on the phone, and turn on the phone machine. Give out cell phone numbers for emergencies and leave the cell phone on. I'm assuming these robocalls are made to landlines.  The "repeat" calling is triggered by hanging up.  Let the machine listen to the whole disgusting message so you don't have to, then save the evidence for later legal action.

  •  Is there ANY way these robo-calls can be (0+ / 0-)


    -7.88, -6.72. I AM paying attention, and I am so fucking outraged I can't see straight. The W in Fascist is silent; unfortunately, W isn't....

    by caseynm on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:59:45 PM PST

    •  not really (4+ / 0-)

      They're making 200,000 calls per hour.  Assuming 1 minute per call, you have 3,600 minutes in an hour, which is 55 simultaneous calls at any given time.  That in turn looks suspiciously like two outbound T1 circuits (48 speech channels total of 48 simultaneous calls), or possibly PRI circuits (46 speech channels but faster processing due to common-channel signaling) because those are slightly faster if you know how to use them.   You can get up to the range of 60 calls per minute or more either way, assuming ring-no-answer and busy signals cause the robot to drop the call more quickly.  

      So you would need to find out the actual telephone number assigned to those circuits and then make between 46 and 48 calls simultaneously to that number, and keep doing it until you got a busy tone.  And then keep it up after that.  

      IMHO not practical. And could leave you open to charges of phone-jamming, as the Rs did in NH in 2004.  

      On the other hand, if someone who had impeccable R credentials got a job working for those slimes, they would be in physical proximity to the machines, and if they "went postal"... hmm.   No, I am not suggesting doing anything that might even remotely be illegal.  Wwe are going to win this war by fighting hard but staying within the law.  

      •  I would never suggest anything illegal-- (0+ / 0-)

        except maybe slapping down Liddy Dole the next time she appears ANYWHERE on national media......

        -7.88, -6.72. I AM paying attention, and I am so fucking outraged I can't see straight. The W in Fascist is silent; unfortunately, W isn't....

        by caseynm on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 07:51:41 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  this is HUGE (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Joe Bob, G2geek, Coherent Viewpoint

    Everyone must understand the gravity of this situation.  A few hundred thousand dollars spent on harassing robo calls can reach MILLIONS of voters, and few things grate on the nerves more than being repeatedly harassed by unsolicited telephone calls.  This GOP dirty trick is engineered for maximum impact, and I fear the election is being stolen from us right under our noses.

    But the good news is that by getting the truth out, this trick can be made to backfire in a big way on the GOP.  Nobody likes finding out they've been manipulated.  There needs to be a high-profile news conference tomorrow by the Dems.  We need to run ads in all the impacted markets.  This dirty trick needs to be exposed on every TV news network Monday and needs to headline every newspaper and internet news site (CNN, MSNBC).  The headline needs to be direct and truthful - "GOP dirty trick targets millions of voters".

    The integrity of our democracy is at stake here.   Will the the media be complicit in the fleecing of America and fail to run this story on Monday?  Or will the story attract the attention it deserves and be all over the news?  Please everyone do everything you can to ensure the latter.

    Maybe I'm overreacting, but I honestly cannot think of a higher priority for the Dems right now.

  •  What about FBI? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    G2geek, Iowa Boy

    Where are the robocalls coming from?  Is it a central location with the calls being made across state lines?  If they are fraudulent and done to throw an election through deception, couldn't that be a RICO violation?  Sure would be worth looking into wouldn't it?

    Winning without Delay.

    by ljm on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:01:30 PM PST

  •  I listened to the Tammy Duckworth message (1+ / 2-)
    Recommended by:
    Robert in WV
    Hidden by:
    WarrenS, DrWolfy

    I don't see the dirty trick.  For a Republican ad, it's actually pretty fair.  If you catch them making calls where they actually claim to be Democrats, let me know.  Until then, get some sleep, GOTV, and get this off the rec list.

    •  You don't get the whole scheme (3+ / 0-)

      People who don't listen to the whole thing -- and the large majority of listeners don't -- get called back over and over again and are left with the belief that these harassing phone calls are from the Duckworth or other Democratic campaigns. I talked with some of these people while canvassing yesterday for Melissa Bean.

      •  You're pissed off enough about a 45 second phone (0+ / 0-)

        call that you're going to change your vote because of it and you're not going to listen to the whole thing even once just to find out who it is that's harassing you?


        I'm disgusted at the timing of the Hussein verdict.  That was slimy as hell.  But these are just phone calls and may well backfire if people feel pestered by them.  For every 1 person who can't be bothered listening to the whole thing and wrongly concludes who made the call, 9 people will listen to the whole thing, get pissed off at the harassment and vote accordingly.

        •  Kossacks are not the target (4+ / 0-)

          They're not wasting their time trying to change your vote.

          Their target is the average lukewarm supporter, and they're probably looking more to keep them home than to turn their vote.  In a close race it could make a difference.

          Sure, some of them will probably calm down and say, well, they hired some awful telemarketing firm but, that's politics, and I'm still for her.

          But not all.  And that's the margin they are looking for.  

          But if, and it's a long shot, we can shine the light of publicity on this, it could rebound stronger, if enough pissed off people learn who they should be pissed off at.

        •  I would never listen to the whole thing! (3+ / 0-)

          Do you? Do you regularly listen to unsolicited calls, all the way through to the end?

          Be good to each other. It matters. Bill Sali

          by AllisonInSeattle on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 02:31:00 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  already people say they've swtiched votes (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:

          There are already people who have written to local newspapers saying they were going to vote democrat but got sick of being harrassed by the robocalls. Except the Dems were doing no robocalls. And exactly how many republicans do you think they are targetting with these calls so they may "get pissed off at the harassment and vote accordingly."??

          People are changing their votes away from Dem because of it. This ain't theory.

          Give us back the America we trust and respect!!!

          by icerat on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 02:44:56 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Do we know that these LTEs (0+ / 0-)

            are coming from Dems or are they perhaps from Repug operatives who want to spread the idea that Dems are the ones making annoying robocalls? Just a thought. Either way I agree that these robocalls need to be dealt with firmly and not just laughed off.

  •  Oh, Just Put the Phone Down (0+ / 0-)

    If you don't need the phone for an expected critical call, just put it down and ignore it. This ties up their line. Eventually, the system will realize that no one is on the line and give up. When you hear the urgent, fast beeping that signals that the phone system has detected a phone off the hook, hang it up.

    Of course, this won't attack them in the way that filing charges will, but it is a significant discouragement to any caller you don't want to talk with. If enough people did this, it would become tremendously expensive for them to make these calls.

    Liberal Thinking

    Think, liberally.

    by Liberal Thinking on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:26:41 PM PST

    •  How? (0+ / 0-)

      How does this make it more expensive for them to make these calls? If you hang up, the phone software calls you right back or calls the next number in the list. If you don't hang up, the recording continues to the end and then it hangs up and calls the next number in the list. Wouldn't it be more expensive for the callers to place more calls than to place fewer calls? We don't know how they're billed so we can't really know how forcing them to make fewer calls will impact them except for possibly slowing them down a little.

  •  Please post audio??? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    Can someone please post a link to audio of one of these calls?  There's got to be a kossack out there somewhere who had the good sense to record one, and I'd like to hear it.  Especially the lead in which makes it sound like the dems are responsible for the calls...

    "Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner." - James Bovard

    by Gasonfires on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:38:56 PM PST

  •  someone should tell Kos he needs to get on this (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Winnie, doinaheckuvanutjob

    Let him put his rolodex to work to call some folks we don't have access to that may be able to shine some light on this.  

    All he's doing now seems to be posting polling data, which in some cases he even admits he doesn't trust.  

    This is part of GOTV.  It's more important.

    •  I emailed Markos (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      via the "contact us" links.  I sent him my contact information.  I'm local to him so if he wants to get in touch, he can, and he can also verify my professional references easily.  

      I can't fault him for sticking to reporting polls.  This is information people need for GOTV efforts and suchlike.  

      But in any case, anyone here have direct contact with Kos, ask him to read my email and get in touch.  There's a lot more I can do for the cause in addition to writing geek diaries, and I've barely scratched the surface.  It won't take long to cover the territory, and I won't waste his time.  

  •  more information: (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    See sbwoodside's diary for more information tracking down the source of these calls (plus audio links). Go give it a rec so it'll stick around for a while. It's going quick.

    Hard data on voter-suppression robo-calls

  •  please read WHO is doing this (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    AllisonInSeattle, G2geek

    sbwoodside's diary:
    Looks like it may be some interesting RNCC related folks over at Conquest Communications...

  •  When Joe Lieberman Calls (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    TaraIst, Coherent Viewpoint

    Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

    by William Domingo on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:23:43 AM PST

  •  Getting lots of these calls (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    from both parties. some automatic messages, others live people that refuse to let you interrupt them. I asked in another diary but i'll ask here also, isn't it illegal per the FCC to use any kind of auto-dialer to contact a cellular phone?

  •  asdf (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    nomes, G2geek

    I have caller ID and if I don't recognize the number I simply don't pick up.  I received 3 calls from 123-456-7890 yesterday and they did not leave a message.  I assumed it was a campaign call. I am surprised that anyone picks up calls they don't recognize in this day and age.  

    * 2831 *

    by BDA in VA on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 02:11:02 AM PST

  •  ****KOS**** Please copy this on the front page! ! (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Winnie, Annalize5, jkilkullen

    This is such an important post, everybody that visits the site before Tues. should see it.

    Is it not the rich who oppress you?...Is it not they who blaspheme? --James 2:6-7

    by theophilus on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 02:13:01 AM PST

  •  They Even Did This In The 2004 Iowa Primaries.... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    ....injecting themselves into which candidate they wanted to run against.  In the period where Dean's lead went from unbeatable to a paltry third - Iowans were receiving call after call after call from robocalls from "Dean" - although he had no such money for that kind of operation.  I believe this contributed to his loss even more than any public "gaffes".

    Host a screening of my animated documentary DOOLITTLE RAIDERS!!!

    by tkmattson on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 02:16:08 AM PST

  •  G2geek, fyi (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint

    "Republican Robo Calls"
    "Let a Republican owned firm make your automated phone calls."

    "Capacity: 5-10 million calls a day"

    "Your project can be started within minutes of receiving your order. If you need immediate assistance after hours, a representative is available 24 hours a day at 505-317-3245."

    For a good time, Google "robocalls"

    •  good catch but could be a satire site (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      If this is real, good catch.

      However, methinks it may be a satire site.  A 2-megawatt backup generator is sufficient to power 2,000 households, and, shall we say, a bit excessive for a facility that at most would draw 2 kilowatts all-factors-in.  And the facilities photos look pretty generic to me.  The text itself seems like something you'd see for a small business, not a well-funded GOP operation with all manner of consultants at its disposal.

      Anyway, if this is a satire site or someone's attempt at intel collection, good for them, and we'll see what happens.

  •  5 things to do on Monday to fight robocalls (0+ / 0-)

    "They blamed it on the Islamic fanatics, at the time. [...] That was when they suspended the Constitution. They said it would be temporary."-Handmaid's Tale

    by JLFinch on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 03:14:29 AM PST

    Recommended by:
    G2geek, Annalize5





    TY- Canton, Ohio

    I propose to Republicans that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. Adlai Stevenson

    by glbTVET on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 03:17:53 AM PST

    •  that's ok... (4+ / 0-)

      I'm the author of this diary and your posting is OK by me, since after all it's related to winning the election.


      •  sorry to intrude in the thread, (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Terminus Est

        but I wanted to see if you would put a link in your diary to this one here.  Can you link it in the body of your diary for anyone from NY to see?

        Robocalled?Reporters waiting.Email me Hotlist
        by debcoop [Subscribe]
        Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 11:21:33 AM PST

        I just got off the phone with the  New York State head of the DNC's official lawyers committee.

        She has local and national reporters who are EAGER to speak to voters who have been harassed by repetitive robocalls. We need to put some meat on the bones of this story.

        If you have been called repeatedly please contact me.  If you have recorded these calls even better because then it might be covered by the TV media, not just the print media. They want to speak to New York State voters only for this story.

        I am the conduit for this. My email is d7eb at

        George Allen is an ignorant racist pig who is in the pocket of Big Bidness.

        by emmasnacker on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 11:44:32 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    Recommended by:
    artebella, Winnie, G2geek, Annalize5

    This is a national issue that needs national attention.  We need Dean, Rahm, and as many others as possible on every news show they can get on to tell people that these calls are not coming from Dems, their candidates, or anyone associated with us.

    If we can quickly get the word out that this is another Republican dirty trick it will backfire in a major way.  But we've got to get on the air with it!!!

  •  After my wife got out of the hospital (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    shpilk, Coherent Viewpoint, Iowa Boy

    After having emergency open heart surgery. intensive care 10 days, and then bed rest at home.
    I WAS GETTING about 5 calls per day. Because of the need to keep up with 2 surgeons, home health workers, blood work, etc. the calls are more than annoying, they can be life threatening.
    Now she is better, Good thing because the calls have increased to 15-20 on some days.  
    As an aside at NO TIME was I able to hang up and get dial tone right away.
    As far as I can tell this is being done by BOTH PARTIES
    If I caould catch these assholes in the street I would go to jail.
    Do they know it doesn't work? Of course they do. This is being done by the Dems because their consultants are dumber than tits on snakes, and by the reps as another attempt to 'flip the vote".

    Do you hear the people sing? Singing a song of angry men? It is the music of a people Who will not be slaves again!

    by axman on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 05:17:48 AM PST

    •  glad to hear your wife is doing better (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      and I agree, Robocalling is bogus.

      The solution is State Law banning it outright. NH has done so, when people sign up for the National Do Not Call Registry.

      I think it's a great political point for 2008.

      NHDP Coordinated Campaign Manchester Office Phone: 625-0010 Address: 379 Elm St. Hampton Office Phone: 929-7007 Address: 356 Lafayette Rd.

      by shpilk on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 09:22:55 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  NY Time frontpages robocalls-blames repugs (4+ / 0-)


    blames republicans

    in the print edition it is on the front page on the fold.

    Help make NYC Republican free; volunteer for Steve Harrison NY-13 against Vito Fossella.

    by DrSteveB on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 05:26:11 AM PST

  •  timroff has just posted a new diary (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    davidkc, neroden
    with an exhaustive list of media contact e-mail.
    Let's use it to get this information over to the MSM.  Really.  Read and rec.

    Is the victim moral? -- Nietzsche.

    by oxon on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 05:56:16 AM PST

  •  Just get caller ID. (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    peace voter, Winnie, BDA in VA, Bob Guyer

    And an answering machine.

    If you get a call from a umber you don't recognize, don't pick up. If it's from someone you know, or it's important, they will leave a message.

    I also found that signing up to be on the GOP's e-mail list means I get spared last minute voter supression tactics. Plus, I get a heads up on their latest bullshit.

  •  This is for keeps (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Joe Bob, BDA in VA

    They figure that if the calls accomplish what they've set out to do and make the Dems lose, then it doesn't matter that laws have been violated.  The Republican controlled FCC investigations will show inconclusive evidence and where the evidence is inontrovertable, stiff fines of up to $100 will be levvied.

    It's a joke.

    Osama bin Laden? Osama been livin' in Pakistan and the admin ain't done a damn thing about it.

    by nightsweat on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:03:14 AM PST

    •  There is no meaningful recourse. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      I had exactly the same take on it: Republicans will break the law to get the result that they want and just deal with the fines and prosecutions after the fact. No matter what the GOP does, it's hard to imagine that there will be any 'do-overs' or election results overturned after the fact due to illegal campaign tactics. Once they 'win' it's impossible to get any real justice.

      As for consequences, I'm a little more optimistic than you that some people will get hammered for this. The FCC isn't the the only office holding the reins. There are many states with state-level Do Not Call registries, phone harassment statutes, etc. and any one of them would be able to take legal action. I'm sure there are several blue-state AGs who would love to take on this case.

    •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

      They don't give a shit.

      They jammed the phones in New Hampshire in 2002. One guy goes to jail. They win a Senate seat. For them, that's a trade they're happy to make.

      That's the reason they wait until the day before the election to start pulling this crap. There's no time to stop it. And even if it becomes an issue after the election then. . . well, big deal. They've already won. There's no "do over".

      It would be nice to have an Attorney General of the United States who actually cared about this stuff, but he's too busy licking Bush's boots and figuring out ways to pimp for that whole "Unitary Executive" thing.

      Our country is a fucking joke. Criminals run it. Other criminals (like Gonzalez) let the criminals run it. The corporate media does whatever it's told. We have partisan companies with a direct financial stake in the outcome counting our votes. This is no different from professional wrestling. Completely staged. Completely fake. Democracy in 2006 is simply an illusion and not a reality.

      Meanwhile, the citizens are preoccupied with really serious matters, like trying to guess who will get voted off the island this week.

      The Republican Party: Keeping America Fact-Free Since 2001

      by IndyScott on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:39:48 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Oh, you shrill bloggers... (3+ / 0-)

    Why can't you leave these matters to the experts?

    ---Officer Barbrady

    Yes, yes, I'm in Down East magazine this month. Film at 11.

    by Bill in Portland Maine on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:18:58 AM PST

  •  We can do free robo calls from (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    Unfortunately, it only sends out experimental sound art and not politically coded messages. You CAN however add a message at the end, and the robot correctly identifies itself (as an art piece) at the beginning.

    here is the link.

    It is pleasant, when the sea is high and the winds are dashing the waves about, to watch from the shores the struggles of another - Lucretius

    by snarkydonkey on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:28:14 AM PST

  •  Great work G2G! (0+ / 0-)

    Thank you!

    Our economy sucks up our environment, people, and government. Redesign it at Beyond Political Center

    by Bob Guyer on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:30:56 AM PST

  •  OK don't know if I'm (0+ / 0-)

    reinventing the wheel here or not. Call or email your local TV stations news tip line and ask if they will be doing any news items about this. Provide links to TPM, Kos, Firedog, Atrios, or any other blog covering this.
    I just finished up in the Harrisburg, York, Lancaster area of PA. Anybody else in this area, please do the same. If the media gets enough requests they might go with a story about this on the Monday evening local news. It's probably too late for any noon news broadcasts.
    As to G2geeks suggestions of using a bull horn or spreading leaflets it's best to check local ordinnances about solicitation to be on the safe side. No sence adding fuel to the fire by getting your name posted in the local newspaper's police log.

    Windows: The G. W. Bush of operating systems.

    by usedmeat on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:33:42 AM PST

  •  Just spoke to Dick Gresham at Conquest (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Joe Bob, cherryXXX69, Iowa Boy

    Dick Gresham at Conquest Communications told me:

    His calls only go from 9 am to 9 p.m., in the local time district.

    One call per house - once a pickup is made, no more calls to that house.

    No "dirty tricks" by his company - but others are calling. Said his calls do not have a message pretending to be a Democratic candidate.

    Would not give me a transcript of the calls, even though the calls are being made to the public.

    I alerted him, directly and in a voice message, that there were complaints that his product was not releasing the line and people could not reach 911.  

    Didn't know what dailykos was.  I told him, and I told him I would be posting the results of our discussion.


    The fact that he would not give me a transcript made me question his credibility, because these calls are being made to the public.

    "They blamed it on the Islamic fanatics, at the time. [...] That was when they suspended the Constitution. They said it would be temporary."-Handmaid's Tale

    by JLFinch on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:39:07 AM PST

  •  Please give times for your updates! Easier to see (0+ / 0-)

    if info is newer than that from other diaries, sites. Thanks!

  •  Don McGahn at NRCC (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Iowa Boy

    General Counsel at NRCC

    "They blamed it on the Islamic fanatics, at the time. [...] That was when they suspended the Constitution. They said it would be temporary."-Handmaid's Tale

    by JLFinch on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:47:52 AM PST

  •  excellent diary (0+ / 0-)

    What we need are post-election class action lawsuits.  After we win tomorrow, the focus will shift entirely to the future, with large contingents of Dems arguing against expending energy on bygones.  But, as long as we take such a view, the problem will never go away.

    The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. - John Adams

    by tipsymcstagger on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:55:25 AM PST

  •  1-800-DEM-VOTE (0+ / 0-)

    Per Christy at Firedoglake:

    [This] is the DNC's voter protection hotline, and the testimonials received will be the foundation for any legal action, as well as a reliable central repository for follow-up contact information.

    (emphasis mine)

    So after you call your AG's office, call that number and give them your details as well. It's important that we get all this info collected in one place.

    He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression. -- Thomas Paine

    by Leslie in CA on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 07:20:34 AM PST

  •  Excellent Diary! Recommended. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    I hope it goes to the top of the list and, more importantly, I hope we can teach Rove and the Republican criminal element a lesson that they will not forget.  I have such high pre-election anxiety that I almost cannot function and the only relief is to win this election and to win it BIG.  We must clean up the corruption that is rampant in our government.  We must remove this cancer that is growing in our government.

    Thank you for this excellent weapon in the fight.

  •  Wonderful diary. (0+ / 0-)

    Full of facts and action items.

    You done good - be proud.

    Any party that would lie to start a war would also steal an election.

    by landrew on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 07:31:32 AM PST

  •  telecom engineers available to help (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

      If anyone needs assistance with this just go to my blog and post a message in response to my latest - my company designs public voice commucation networks and I'd like to be able to help put some heat on the Republican party's slime machine.

    "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise" - U.S. Constitution author and fourth President James Madison

    by Iowa Boy on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 07:53:52 AM PST

  •  I just received a robocall here in CT02 (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    It was from the Republican candidate for Secretary of State.

    It went something like this:

    Do you hate robocalls?
    I'm Richard Abbate, Republican candidate for Secretary of State.  If I'm elected, we'll pass legislation to ban all robocalls.  yadayadayada & approved by

    Two points.  

    1.  I'm not sure whether this is clever or not.
    1.  I am on the do not call list.  I have never given my phone number to a Republican group, authorizing them to call.  Is this legal of them?

    Resisting the Conservation of Joementum

    by LIsoundview on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 08:01:20 AM PST

  •  Two things you can do, even if not a victim. (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DianeNYS, neroden, jkilkullen
    1. Hit the media with requests to cover this story. Even if the news doesn't get out today to sufficiently educate the victims of these calls, the American public needs to know about this for the sake of future elections.  We have to take away this strategy from these fuckers.
    1. Put elected officials on notice. As many of you already know, the guy who is behind this pathetic strategy is Terry Nelson, who John McCain recently hired as a senior advisor.  Here's the email I sent to John McCain:

    Dear Senator McCain,

    You're not my Senator.  However, I felt compelled to contact you seeing that both you, and I, and pretty much the rest of likely voters believe that you plan to run for U.S. President in 2008.

    I just wanted to send you a quick note from just one voice of many, many engaged citizens who are watching you closely:

    1. The full extent of the NRCC's disgusting robocall campaign will become commonly known, even if only after tomorrow's elections.
    1. We know who's behind it: Terry Nelson. And we also know that you hired Terry Nelson as a senior advisor.

    The American people are sick and tired of dirty campaigning. They're sick and tired of being repeatedly lied to by the Bush Administration and it's accolytes in Congress.  This election is a referendum on your party's lack of governance over the last six years.  If you continue to ally yourself with sick, dishonest, Macchiavellian scumbags like Terry Nelson, the American people will know of it, and they will judge you harshly.

    The only way these Republican assbags will stop engaging in dirty tricks and lies is if it hurts them more than helps them.  And the only way that can happen is if their tricks become common knowledge.

  •  First amendment and Robocalls--fighting back (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    neroden, jkilkullen

    There is still time to respond robocall to robocall tomorrow morning.

    Robocalls are protected free speech. What I would do:

    The technology allows you to make voicemail only calls. In other words, the recipient doesn't know who is calling if he or she answers the phone and the system continues to call until it reaches voicemail.

    Clearly, by placing the calls during working hours, one will hit a lot of vmail.

    The message should debunk the dirty tricks:

    Please excuse this interuption, but this message matters to you if you don't like harrassing phone calls. The Republican Party has called voters all over the country pretending to be Democrats. This is Democratic candidate XXXX. I have NOT been calling you.

    Thank you, and please consider my candidacy and fair campaign tactics when you vote. This is Democrat XXXX.



  •  Robocalling Oldie But Goodie 2004 primaries.... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Brian82, jkilkullen

    ....people were blaming the Kerry campaign at the time, but it was RNC crap.  Knew this crap would resurface sooner or later.

    Host a screening of my animated documentary DOOLITTLE RAIDERS!!!

    by tkmattson on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 08:12:29 AM PST

  •  I live in Richmond, VA. (0+ / 0-)

    Conquest Communications Group is in Richmond.  I'm wondering if I should drop by, butI'm not sure what good it will do.  Suggestions anyone?

  •  I called Conquest Communications (5+ / 0-)

    I called Conquest Communications. After asking for the person in charge of the calling project for the Republican party, I was told he was on a call.

    I told the receptionist that I'd be happy to hold, all day if necessary. The receptionist passed a note to, as it turned out Brock Johnson. He came on the phone and when I told him my name and my Blog (my own, not DKos) he quickly had no comment.

    Instead, I went to their website and sent an email asking the following questions.

    Relating to your automated calling project for the Republican Party:

    Do the calls initially sound as if the subject is for a Democratic candidate?

    Is the calling program set to recall someone who hangs up?

    If so, how many times is the person recalled?

    Are you concerned that these calls may be fraudulent, harassing or voter fraud?

    George W. is NOT an incompetent liar, he's had waaay too much practice for that. (-2.25, -2.56)

    by EclecticFloridian on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 09:05:47 AM PST

  •  I also called Conquest Communications (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    cherryXXX69, jkilkullen

    I talked with the receptionist who told me Brock Johnson was unavailable.  She was 'unaware' of the calls for the Republican party.

    Give them a call and let your voice be heard.  Ask for Brock Johnson.

    PHONE (804) 358-0560
    FAX (804) 213-0797

  •  More about Broc Johnson! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    "Johnson has served as a legislative aide to members of the Virginia House and Senate, and was responsible for many of the Virginia GOP's successes in 1993 as a field representative for the Republican Party of Virginia. Before returning his professional focus to politics with Conquest in 2001, Johnson was a highly successful realtor in Northwestern Virginia..."

    Let's nail this guy.

  •  PA-06 Lois Murphy no calls yet today (0+ / 0-)

    There were lots of deceptive robo-calls last week and people were getting annoyed as reported in dailynews and

  •  Broc's cell phone number... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    cherryXXX69, jkilkullen

    Before everyone freaks out over posting personal phone numbers, this number came from his own site.  It's fair game.

    Cell (804) 683-3467

    •  This is the guy responsible for robocalls! (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      2d, cherryXXX69, jkilkullen

      The cell phone works.

      He said to call the attorney general and complain to them.  He wouldn't answer any other questions about repeat call backs etc.  He wasn't too happy that I called his cell, but the dude published the number on his own companies website.

  •  Related, but roboFAX...what to do. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    oglongcock, jkilkullen

    If someone sends you an unsolicited political fax...wait till after-hours.

    Then fax back a pack of BLACK document separators. If it doesn't destroy their machine outright, it'll at least wreck a toner. They'll take you off their list.

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross" - Sinclair Lewis

    by Loboguara on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 10:36:29 AM PST

  •  Caller ID (0+ / 0-)

    It's worth noting that many legitimate phone banking operations give missing or gibberish caller ID information.  For example, the phone banking I've been doing for the Gillibrand campaign involves connecting to an automated dialer system, and I've gotten complaints from people on the other end of the line that no Caller ID information is appearing.

    I'm no lawyer, but I'm reasonably sure that missing or meaningless Caller ID information is legal (perhaps not ideal, but legal).  I wish they'd set it so that recipients can call our offices back for more information.

    What the above description of PRI services, and how easy it is for a PRI customer to set their caller ID info, fills me with dread that GOP robocallers might decide to use fraudlent Caller ID info, and that would probably be illegal.

  •  Post on GOP Closing Tactics and Stakes (0+ / 0-)

    It's been a great year for starting a blog, and here's my last post before elections day:

    Nettertainment: Act III

  •  From Duckworth Robo Call Recording.... (0+ / 0-)

    It sounds like the message goes negative within the first 5 to 10 seconds of the call. Let's say that a person does get 10 calls at 11 o'clock at night. On the 8th or 9th call a person might wait to see if there is someone attaching their name to the call so they can complain. This is where it goes bad. It's clearly negative on the DEM and the GOP puts their name on the call. How can this help the Republicans?

    "Just imagine a work of such magnitude that it actually mirrors the whole world....In it all of nature finds a voice." Gustav Mahler on his 3rd Symphony

    by Mahler3 on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:26 AM PST

  •  Now I'm afraid (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    to answer my damn phone.

    After the Rapture, we'll get all their stuff! Hummingbird's Blog

    by Hummingbird on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:03:41 PM PST

  •  just got robocalled in PA (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    tankej, ohcanada

    3:02 PM saying it was a democratic ad from ed rendell.

    I hung up and counted like it says in the diary.
    At 5 seconds i picked the phone back up, and the recording was playing.
    At 12 seconds, still playing.
    At 20 seconds, still playing.
    At 25 seconds, i had a dial tone.

    Number on the callerID: 000-000-0000

    I did a quick search on google and came up with people complaining in a philly newspaper. At the bottom of the ad it says the editor sent calls back to the NRCC, here I'll quote it:
    "You can complain to the FCC if you think the calls are illegal, as some Murphy supporters have done. (202-418-1440, phone; 202-418-0232, fax.)

    Or you can do what I briefly considered yesterday: Send the NRCC your own robocalls telling it to STOP IT!

    Try - 12 cents a call, no minimum. The NRCC's number is 202-479-7000.

    That taste of its own medicine would make me feel much better after two weeks sick in bed."

  •  Phone harassment doesn't happen in Germany (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    at all.

    It's considered rude in Germany even to call anyone after 2200.  Germans greatly value their personal time.  No political party would be allowed to harass Germans at home in this way.  

    I think this GOP tactic goes hand-in-hand with its policies to destroy Americans' right to privacy.  Repubs think nothing of invading that privacy anyway they can, no matter who gets hurt, in this case, someone needing to call the ER.

    This tactic is despicable!

    "Whether ours shall be a government of laws and not of men is now for Congress and ultimately the American people."--Watergate Prosecutor Archibald Cox

    by lebkuchen on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:14:53 PM PST

  •  Robo calls (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:


    Call the local television stations. In NYC they are always asking for viewers to call and send videos of things that they deem news. Call and if you can find anyone with a tape--give it to your local TV or radio station. Do it the way the Repug echo machine works. They send a story to Rupert's papers in London, then Drudge picks it up and then the MSM picks it up (or not) but I don't see how they can ignore this. Everyone, everywhere---call your local TV and radio stations to get the buzz going. Call Air America. (I'm at work and can't call). Bust em!!! Turn the anger people are feeling toward Dems for thinking it was the Dems who called to outrage over being tricked by those nasty little Repug worms -- who stop at nothing.

  •  How do these machines treat no-answer calls? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    My partner and I both received calls this morning, within five minutes of each other, on our cell phones (which are only 4 digits different on the last number, identical otherwise) and we didn't answer because the caller ID was (800)-000-0000, obviously a spoof. We had no voicemails. Is it likely that we'll receive calls back later on today?

    This may be very amusing because our phones do not have the same area code as where we live...

    "These are the kind of people who see blood on their hands and claim it's just a sunburn." - SuzieQ

    by Killer of Sacred Cows on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 01:06:48 PM PST

  •  Duckworth (0+ / 0-)

    Hear an actual Duckworth Robocall:

  •  Three Way Call them to DOJ (0+ / 0-)

    Put the Law on your speed dial and three way call the criminals to them

  •  Keith Olbermann just covered this issue! n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner." - James Bovard

    by Gasonfires on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 05:23:05 PM PST

  •  White House comment line (0+ / 0-)

    For example, I could dial into one of my clients' PBX systems right now, and change their outbound caller ID to 202-456-4141.  Then when you received a call from a designated extension on that system, you would see that phone number on your display, AND the name "The White House," since (if I remember correctly) that is the listed number for the White House public comments line..

    The White House comment line, according to their own web page, is 202-456-1111.  The number 202-456-4141 doesn't seem to exist (at least, a Google search got no hits).

  •  NH-02 Robocall recording (0+ / 0-)

    If you want to hear an example of one of these calls I've put an audio file from my answering machine onto my website:

    I received many (8-10) robo calls in opposition to the Democratic NH-02 candidate Paul Hodes over the last week or so. The call is not identified as coming from the NRCC until the end of the call and it starts with the "Hello, I'm calling with information about Paul Hodes..." and talks about all the "tax breaks" that Hodes opposes and that "NH taxpayers can't afford Paul Hodes. Vote 'No' on Paul Hodes." Then comes the "paid for by NRCC blah blah."

    BTW, when I get the call it shows up as "1-000-000-0000" on my Caller ID.

David Nir, pontificator, Leslie in CA, Devin, Deep Dark, Bob Johnson, Jason, opus, Soj, RedDan, Louise, edverb, fly, NegSpin, Ottoe, Direwolf, Tripleg, Jett, Dana Houle, Aexia, johnny rotten, RobertInWisconsin, OkieByAccident, buffalo soldier, libby, Joe Bob, privatewl, stevelu, chrississippi, DavidW in SF, Best in Show, KeithH, Marek, SteveLCo, Maccabee, Athena, kid oakland, delphis, northsylvania, LeislerNYC, CJB, Chance the gardener, miriam, jab, Bill in Portland Maine, PhilK, IseFire, oofer, Irfo, jfern, usagi, Phoenix Woman, tankej, VAdem, Stevie, True North, Scott Shields, baked potato, DavidSewell, vivacia, Kelk, debcoop, Fran for Dean, jmelli, alyosha, sheba, teacherken, ks, DawnG, CalifSherry, GOTV, Trendar, gogol, AlanF, Adam B, Thom K in LA, lipris, Liberal Thinking, JustWinBaby, Zackpunk, moon in the house of moe, Margot, yerioy, mooncrow, Sedge, tikkun, TaraIst, peggy, Kimberly Stone, tiggers thotful spot, hardleft, alisonk, thebes, cosbo, Gooserock, Pandora, jk, Dvd Avins, thorn70, machopicasso, NYmom, kellogg, ljm, sarac, mem from somerville, ebradlee10, saraswati, Dems2004, Reino, IndySteve, its simple IF you ignore the complexity, Juppon Gatana, RunawayRose, Bob Love, DebtorsPrison, MikeHickerson, RickWn, jethropalerobber, bosdcla14, Lahdee, dweingart, Sprinkles, superfly, TechBob, Emerson, cici414, Progrocks, stilwell, lebowski, littlesky, wu ming, Fishgrease, LynChi, m maddog, jasonwhat, billlaurelMD, Scott B, tacet, stivo, SanJoseLady, bramish, Jim in Chicago, genethefiend, democat, wintersnowman, OLinda, cos, Charles CurtisStanley, LynnS, John Campanelli, mainely49, phenry, etatauri, the awful truth, Pluto1618, xynz, Raven Brooks, gecko, MV Kid, kdub, figdish, ManfromMiddletown, raygungnu, recentdemocrat, acuppajo, Woody, WI Deadhead, Mumon, frisco, velvetdays, alaska49, enthusiast, sobermom, shpilk, Newsie8200, Joe B, Sandia Blanca, twistandshout, princemyshkin, bumblebums, zeroooo, mataliandy, Perdita Durango, exNYinTX, givmeliberty, vrexford, marge, expat germany, bostonjay, bookbear, hubcap, Entheate, New Sweden, zeitshabba, Creosote, HStewart, Ruth in OR, mldostert, HariSeldon, BrentHartinger, Plan9, finkstah, Smallbottle, Paulie200, sardonyx, roxtar, polsci major to be, Eternal Hope, RubDMC, Polarmaker, upnatom65, fwiffo, Thistime, eyeswideopen, jpiterak, BartBoris, km4, tsurube, monkeybiz, concernedamerican, thm, smintheus, ReneInOregon, gp39m, marbit, koz, ganto, worriedmom, PeteB2, medaka, afox, EricS, DickCheneyBeforeHeDicksYou, Cautiously Optimistic, Nellcote, Naturegal, sadhu, landrew, mentaldebris, Karen Wehrstein, wonkydonkey, bonddad, RaleighRob, Cassandra77, annrose, Susan1138, understandinglife, SecondComing, rhp, susakinovember, jwb, djMikulec, Baldwiny, Loquatrix, Ryno, ATL Dem, PsiFighter37, CoolOnion, biscobosco, peace voter, quake, highacidity, bluesteel, CatFelyne, Cool Blue Reason, cmlorenz, stevej, moiv, Transmission, high5, nomes, Suznyc, calistan, chimpy, Trixie, roses, chechecule, chiniqua, bobinson, anoodle, javelina, ivote2004, dmsdbo, Ignacio Magaloni, peraspera, murphsurf, oslo, sgilman, drsmith131, amanuensis, peeder, L0kI, dwildman, LondonYank, Molee, badlands, retLT, nargel, masoregonian, kaypaul, lorax, karenc, Torta, sngmama, scotslass, punaise, itskevin, bwren, ReddHedd, EdwardsRaysOfSunshine, ethans mom, dcvote, jalbert, ryder92111, bree, Nate Roberts, erquirk, librarianman, fumie, ctsteve, rioduran, kport, nonverbalcoma, DoctorScience, TheCrank, dmsilev, Cedwyn, jted, kozmo, high uintas, artebella, Alna Dem, ginatx, CocoaLove, bikko100, OldYellerDog, toc001, nitetalker, SensibleShoes, Alohaleezy, wader, Hiram615, slackjawedlackey, Redfire, asterlil, worldwideellen, Cream City, jhwygirl, slippytoad, hhex65, caseynm, dejavu, Michael Yarbrough, rcvanoz, emmasnacker, danthrax, marko, campskunk, Stand Strong, Winnie, by foot, lucid, bluerevolt, QuinnLaBelle, DeadB0y, Cyn NY, Eddie in ME, nj mom, gobigblue, SKB, Nancy in LA, MTgirl, brainwave, mad ramblings of a sane woman, gmb, Boppy, TiaRachel, karendc, TXsharon, SeattleLiberal, Nina, hoolia, Red State Refugee, klayman, katchen, grayslady, churchylafemme, Bulldawg, peterborocanuck, bklynarch, MattR, MaggieEh, wilbur, Rigjob, Black Maned Pensator, joan reports, chantedor, 42, ArcXIX, auntdeen, pfd, peregrina, never forget 2000, snakelass, Magorn, weasel, renaissance grrrl, dnn, hartboy, Calidrissp, BrooklynVoice, annetteboardman, papercut, Mrcia, rlharry, Cliff Talus, Timbuk3, Eddie Haskell, sommervr, lcrp, just us, 313to212, uncoolfred, Dood Abides, 4jkb4ia, Wayward Wind, Brian82, crumb, johne, ChiGirl88, seaside, jinny, Donna in Rome, JayBat, leftilicious, AllisonInSeattle, Anne Hawley, Willow72, eleanora, WV Democrat, side pocket, apdva, YetiMonk, Whiskey Sam, StupidAsshole, Man Eegee, jen, eco, CanYouBeAngryAndStillDream, dnta, Marianne Benz, Dr Seuss, BigDuck, bablhous, rebirtha, DrewDown, DominoDude, ChaosMouse, kd texan, eve, solesse413, Jen Hayden, malcontent, tipsymcstagger, rolet, boran2, xndem, We hold these truths, Timroff, murrayewv, Shapeshifter, Spam Spam Bacon Spam, dereau, guyermo, Limelite, macmcd, BDA in VA, MNPundit, greeseyparrot, sawgrass727, Gowrie Gal, Liberal mathematician, Miles Archer, theophilus, davidkc, libnewsie, seronimous, averageyoungman, abbey, gradinski chai, frostyinPA, nehark, Skennet Boch, drofx, Fabian, ukexpat, lcs, Red State Misfit, bloomer 101, cantwait08, Bluesee, 3goldens, FGFM, PAbluestater, pattyp, Owl of Minerva, djesno, j sundman, powwow500, DianeNYS, wizardofOZ, pop tart, Gabriele Droz, Elise, Alegre, Five of Diamonds, sometv, docangel, coloradobl, LarisaW, baccaruda, MasonLee, seesdifferent, archibaldtuttle, subtropolis, Pym, leckavrea, sangemon, 1seeker, Bodean, klokanek, InExile, PBen, PsychoSavannah, Militarytracy, vgranucci, offred, JoMo DemKim, KnotIookin, Alice Venturi, Alien Abductee, mike101, ecoast, jhutson, clammyc, chancy gardner, Valtin, The Third Man, Hirsch, Fire Dog Lake, sidonie, kaye, TinT, juliesie, Kdoug, dynamicstand, dj angst, Richard Carlucci, yogishan, loyal citizen, Laurence Lewis, Monkey In Chief, boofdah, NeuvoLiberal, Jules Beaujolais, scribe69, btrflisoul, Annalize5, curtadams, LNK, Morrigan, flo58, TheSwampDweller, freemark, Sharon in MD, VaMPKiSS1, tutone, Sun Tzu, chicagovigilante, jorndorff, washingtonsmith, alcoholandirony, jimreyn, Voxbear, John DE, Inland, GreyHawk, ladybug53, el maso, GOPhuckYourself, lmariefrombama, Overseas, annefrank, lotlizard, Todd Smyth, QuickSilver, Phil S 33, BobOak, SheriffBart, Natalie, illyia, lasky57, antiapollon, Woz2000, martik, foxglove, globalvillage, aerdrie faenya, RickE, deep, fivefouranonymous, LieparDestin, Geekesque, sleestax, ttoddsnyder, DblTrbl4Me, LevyPants, power model, Cannabis, neroden, wiscmass, Gottayo, Pitin, EeDan, nieman, dem4evr, kerplunk, LivesInAShoe, Lisa Lockwood, sbdenmon, gpm, willers, pmob5977, Beezzley, Team Slacker, Lindy, Shiborg, LisainNYC, doe, Spathiphyllum, Ekaterin, proudprogressiveCA, ohcanada, empathy, sgary, SuthernAhia, JanF, John West, littlewren, JPete, rerutled, YukonJack, npbeachfun, hiddengnostic, Alan Arizona, zapmama, Dania Audax, justrock, Pacific NW Mark, OldCoastie, jay23, damn furriner, inanna9, fhcec, bently, CJnyc, debedb, Mehitabel9, SSMir, axman, makeitstop, motherlowman, Denny in Seattle, AceDeuceLady, occams hatchet, Karyn, Coherent Viewpoint, andreuccio, ATC, Legolas, kovie, lilyvaldem, esquimaux, Dr Rock, Major Danby, trashablanca, Sanuk, nyarlahotep, potownman, BachFan, Thundergod, New Deal democrat, BobzCat, blizek, Do Tell, kraant, tommymet, highfive, Fasaha, Kingsmeg, Take19, parallel man, Rippe, elsie886, virgomusic, sabeke, BlueInARedState, emeraldmaiden, FishGuyDave, Califlander, Ky DEM, DC Scott, Naranjadia, redcardphreek, SeattleChris, frogmarchbush, Flinch, 4thepeople, RAZE, Ellicatt, slashworth, Yellow Canary, duckhunter, cookseytalbott, Capybara, Samwoman, Scientician, compbear, Loonesta, Eric Hopp, Squirrel2634, deha, emteone, rhetoricus, katier, bluebrain, Jordan LFW, Esjaydee, lokiloki, TheBlaz, Tiny Wurlitzer, Junior Bug, madcitymelvin, isis2, luckydog, Gasonfires, kck, donnas, SherriG, Silent Lurker, LokiMom, DarkestHour, MJ via Chicago, PhiloTBG, lebkuchen, erratic, Lashe, warringtonclan, alwaysquestion, Data Pimp, MoonWomyn, FireCrow, NewAmericanLeft, NearlyNormal, BalkanID, armadillo, MO Blue, CTLiberal, bleeding heart, Zwoof, nowheredesign, RBG, mhw, oglongcock, myrealname, rad mennonite, doinaheckuvanutjob, middleagedhousewife, TayTay, ChapiNation386, ljt, mang glider, bajadudes, dirkster42, ilyana, CA Nana, Clive all hat no horse Rodeo, ProgressiveFighter, va dare, BB10, VoteHarder, Stripe, means are the ends, WarrenS, cherryXXX69, MarketTrustee, Dreaming of Better Days, kurt, MadMs, lynneinfla, chgobob, Snarcalita, RickBoston, kidneystones, Lurtz, ifthethunderdontgetya, pseudopod, Class of 72, 73rd virgin, louise the dog, kml, Callandor, Riddle, Aaa T Tudeattack, pat of butter in a sea of grits, eastmt, ctlr, old wobbly, Prime Number, punko79, john07801, dotdot, nhcollegedem, YoyogiBear, A Mad Mad World, Mike McL, Buckeye Hamburger, anue, ibonewits, Lummoxia, malik5470, dotsright, donnamarie, Cronesense, auntialias, hockeyrules, Cat Whisperer, Bob Guyer, Femlaw, blue armadillo, txgirl, FWIW, whl, ksp, Tailspinterry, Kathie McCrimmon, godislove, Terminus Est, SemDem, zinfandelfan, suburi, gloriana, VA02 femocrat, rooreed22, ebilm, truly egregious, rgjdmls, eureka springs ar, Blue Waters Run Deep, kath25, Dave in PA, profmom, Ticonderoga, PacNW BlueBerry Girl, Tenn Wisc Dem, ballerina X, joyful, Ninepatch, Blue South, dbo1, klondike, mandot, College Progressive, PoorLonelyChild, Airpower, vbdietz, mauro7inf, fstlicho, Oreo, hsvscg, sabershadow, jhop7, lvkirk33, Tetris, NorthlandLiberal, Real Texan, MadAsHellMaddie, mmorgaine, Progressive Chick, Brass Tacks, madgranny, sheiladeedee, JML9999, Cozumel, scardanelli, Snakes on a White House, homerun, scratchinmybutt, FXDCI, Ms Cellaneous, notredem, ucla grad102, oxon, Fredneck, roycej, mall teacher, Empower Ink, cville townie, gr8flmo, rmonroe, Peacemongermom, Sad Sack, Mighty Ike, Herbie Poon, kin

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site