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Well, we should know today what Gary Trauner is going to do. A lot depends on Carbon County. Results are still not complete, but it's hard to see him making up the difference. Trauner's results there were not as expected, Gov Dave took that county with 58.4% of the vote in 2002 and from what I heard it's only become more Dem since that time.  Voter turnout was higher in the state overall, but appears to be lower there. None of these things suggest any fraud or error, but they are curious.

Once all the analysis is done and we start to see why Trauner came so close, but appears at this time to be short, I think we'll see that a large number of Republican and Independents in Wyo just couldn't vote Dem and for Pelosi. She has been made out to be a pinko in this state.

Wyoming Republicans also put their party above the state. Barbara Cubin was ineffective when Republicans were in control and now she will be even less effective in a Democratically-controlled House. If Trauner were elected, he would have had a decent amount of clout for pulling off a long shot bid in a red state. Cubin will be in the office for two years until she retires or loses the primary. She will not be the candidate in '08 because the opposition to her in the Republican Party will make sure of it. These next two years will be a big loss for Wyoming if Trauner can't close the gap.

Like Kos, I see the election as a bittersweet moment. I was heavily invested in making great gains in the Mountain West with people like Trauner, Fawcett, Grant, and Kleeb (technically not the Mountain West I know). Tester is in and that makes me happy. Trauner and Wyo Dems did make a huge impact though and for that they should hold their head up high.

Originally posted to Will Rockafellow on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:46 AM PST.

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  •  This one hurts. (10+ / 0-)

    Hopefully, he'll stay active and make another run for office, be it Congress or a state position.

    "I told them on Inauguration Day. I said look into my eyes: no new enhancements." - President Johnny Gentle (Famous Crooner)

    by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:49:54 AM PST

  •  Don't Dispair (4+ / 0-)

    A fifty state strategy is also a long term strategy.  Dividends will not be paid overnight and it will take time and patience for us to fully benefit.  It is going to take some work, but having a party that can compete everywhere instead of trying to build a bare majority out of the Northeast, west cost and some Great Lakes areas will be worth all the labor, all the sweat, and yes all the near misses that will hurt, along the way.  

    Take a deep breath, give yourself a pat on the back for a race well run, and roll up those sleeves.  There is still work to be done.

  •  Take heart, folks... (5+ / 0-)

    Even if Trauner doesn't pull it off this time, he's in fantastic shape for another run in 2008. Many of our candidates who were successful on Tuesday were making a second run at it. If it only takes that many tries for Trauner to turn Wyoming's delegation bluer, I think we'll be doing very well for ourselves (not to mention the people of Wyoming).

    •  I don't know about that (1+ / 0-)
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      In 2008 the GOP Presidential nominee will win 70% of the vote in Wyoming. Cubin will most likely not be the opponent, either.

      (-2.38, -3.28) Independent thinker

      by TrueBlueDem on Fri Nov 10, 2006 at 12:10:52 AM PST

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      •  Maybe... (0+ / 0-)

        Depends on the nominees from each party, the mood of the electorate, and who his opposition would be. All variables at this point, of course.

        However, he'll have built up plenty of name recognition and he will have caught the attention of the DCCC from making it so close this time. Next time, he'll have more help, and we'll all know him from this attempt, so he'll get a jumpstart on the netroots dollars and activism.

        All things considered, I'm pretty happy about where he's starting from in 2008, assuming the recount doesn't go our way. I'm still crossing my fingers.

  •  he really put his feet where his mouth was (2+ / 0-)
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    clyde, strengthof10kmen

    he worked hard and it still may yet pay off.  He did help the Democratic party overall by anchoring Cubin and alot of GOP money into WY where it could have been spent elsewhere and jeopordized our big gains.  The efforts of ALL of the Democratic challengers were critical to the gains made Tuesday!  They served as anchors to the GOP nationally that was forced to spend heavily in 'safe' districts and left NO money to contribute to tight races across the country.

    Here in MI, Nancy Skinner, Jim Marcinkowski and Tony Trupiano anchored over $5 million dollars in these key districts.  They all increased the democratic vote and prevented all of the GOP incumbents from spending that $5 million elsewhere.  Knollenburg was left with less than $180k on 10/31.  Normally, he'd have $2million in the bank at the end of his elections. THIS IS NO SMALL THING.  Knollenburg is now broke, in the minority and about 74, very much in the twilight of his career.  This seat may be open next cycle, however 2 years is forever in politics.

  •  A great opportunity lost... (1+ / 0-)
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    I hate to be a pessimist, but this year was the "Perfect Storm" for winning Wyoming.  It was an off-year election with an unpopular president (although less unpopular in WY than most everywhere else) and an unpopular war against an ineffectual stupid witch who is one of the most dreadful campaigners ever and is hated by even her own party.

    Sure, Trauner now has name recognition, but 2008 will be a presidential year (which will grab the attention of more of the Repub voters), the Wyoming GOP will either convince Cubin to retire or they'll nail her ass in the primary, and Trauner (or whoever runs as the Demo in 2008) will be tied to Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton and the Democratic presidential ticket (all bad things in WY).

    My pet theory is that State Representative Colin Simpson (former Senator Alan Simpson's son) will run for Congress as a Republican.  He has name recognition (his father was beloved in the state and his grandfather was a Senator and a governor) and if  Colin is half as smart and personable as Alan Simpson was, then he'll be 10 times harder to beat than Babblin' Babs.

    •  Look for Colin Simpson (1+ / 0-)
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      as a potential replacement for Craig Thomas. No way he finishes his term, especially after today's horrible news. But Simpson will be tough foe for the House if he does run. Who else?

      But yes... a Dem in Wyo will face incredible odds in '08, especially if Hillary is at the top of the ticket. Kerry would have been tough as well, but he's out after the "joke."

      This was the year. I Trauner goes for it in '08, he will need to start early and continue building on the coalitions & relationships he built with Indies and Republicans.

      •  ohmigod! (0+ / 0-)

        I've been totally exhausted -- and, yes, a bit depressed I'll admit -- today and so I haven't been on line until now. And when I saw this "today's horrible news," I went to the google news and there found the news about Craig.

        If Craig can't finish his term, then Freudenthal will have the opportunity to appoint his replacement. Hey, Dave, I have a suggestion for you.........

        "The revolution is just a t-shirt away" -- Billy Bragg

        by kainah on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:19:21 PM PST

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        •  whoops........ (0+ / 0-)

          forgot that we have that part in our constitution about the party submitting candidates' names for replacements.

          I also just did a quick search of medical info for the type of leukemia he has. Prognosis for someone in his age group is not great.

          BTW, I noticed that some articles are saying he looked "fine" on Saturday at the Cheney rally. My husband said he looked awful.

          "The revolution is just a t-shirt away" -- Billy Bragg

          by kainah on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:38:04 PM PST

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    •  That is a fact! (0+ / 0-)

      I think we have come as close as we will get in a long time.  Cubin was the one we needed to run against, but she won't be the candidtae next time.  My money is on retirement.  She may be a bad rep, but she is no fool.  After all, nobody has won more state-wide elections in Wyoming than her.

  •  wilburtronic (0+ / 0-)

    You fought the good fight, as did dKos' kanaih, as did Gary, and you should be PROUD and HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH.

    People are what they are, and some you can't change.

    In loving memory of Sadie, my camping, hiking & swimming friend. August 9, 1995 - January 23, 2006. She was the very best.

    by jhwygirl on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 05:02:10 PM PST

    •  fought hard, but... (1+ / 0-)
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      Have to admit that, yesterday, I felt OK with knowing that I -- and everyone I know -- did all we possibly good to elect Gary. Still, as the exhaustion settled in so did the disappointment. I haven't felt this personally disappointed in a long time about a loss -- and I think it's because Gary was just such a good candidate.

      Like others above, I'd like to think he'd give it another run. But that's asking for a huge commitment and I'm afraid it's not terribly realistic. WY doesn't have much of a track record of people trying for a seat more than once.

      I'm very proud of having worked for Gary for so long and I'm glad that WY can at least point to Cubin and say that she did not get a majority of the vote. Still, it's hard to get over the idea that we just needed to find those last 1,000 people.

      "The revolution is just a t-shirt away" -- Billy Bragg

      by kainah on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:23:23 PM PST

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      •  Looks like too many pissed GOPers voted Rankin (0+ / 0-)

        Or he got a lot of sympathy votes. Ugh.

        (-2.38, -3.28) Independent thinker

        by TrueBlueDem on Fri Nov 10, 2006 at 12:15:14 AM PST

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        •  today, Rankin said (0+ / 0-)

          that if he could give Trauner his votes, he'd gladly do so.

          I think the vast majority of Rankin's votes came out of Cubin and probably would have just abstained from voting if Rankin had not been in the race. So I don't feel at all badly about his candidacy.

          And, hey, we could still find the 38 votes by next Wednesday that would trigger and automatic recount. I haven't given up yet.

          "The revolution is just a t-shirt away" -- Billy Bragg

          by kainah on Fri Nov 10, 2006 at 03:36:39 PM PST

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      •  I share your saddness (1+ / 0-)
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        as Wyoming is my home, in my heart, your race was near and dear to me.

        I get you on the personal thing, too.  On Monday night I was near tears with anticipation, having so much wrapped up in this race.

        I wish I could say something that might be more meaningful kainah.  Next time I'm down your way, we will certainly co-miserate together - by that time we'll certainly have some good, current Cubin-bashing to do, no doubt.

        In loving memory of Sadie, my camping, hiking & swimming friend. August 9, 1995 - January 23, 2006. She was the very best.

        by jhwygirl on Fri Nov 10, 2006 at 08:02:04 AM PST

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