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Jan., 2007 issue of GQ has lead on front page: "THE KING MAKER  Inside the DEMOCRATIC REVOLUTION with the Man who made it all happen," by Ryan Lizza.

Great, I say to myself, Dean finally gets his, but then on Page 84:

"He's the new kingmaker of the Democratic Party, the man who handpicked candidates, twisted arms, crushed dissent, and delivered the nation from one-party rule, so what does the Clinton vet and former ballet dancer plan to do with all that power?"

Page 85, lo and behold aportrait of Rahm Emanuel

follow me below for excerpts and you just know Dean doesn't smell pretty

September: (page 86) "Despite the wins by traditionally liberal candidates in several districts, Rahm, with his insistence on playing to the middle, was undeniably the primary architect of the Democratic sweep."

"Instead of a national referendum on Bush and Washington corruption, it looks like Rahm and his lieutenants will be forced into a race-by-race dogfight, which means they're going to have to get dirty.  Or dirtier."

Later in the article, Rahm, Carville are complaining they need more money and the only thing they can do now is talk to Dean:

"'This shit has got to stop,'" Carville told the friend.  "'We need to go see Dean. He's got the one thing we need-borrowing power.'"  Word came back the next day that Dean wouldn't meet with them.  (Later, asked about the incident, a top aide to Dean tells me the chairman has no idea what Carville is talking about."

Again quoting from the article:

"Normally, the chairman of the DNC is installed by party leaders, but after the Democrats' 2004 debacle, there were no party leaders, and Dean won over the anonymous state-party chairs..."

"The state parties became his base of support and Dean promised them two things:  more money and more power."

Carville again:  "'The thing that stuns me...is that this is supposed to be a rigged deal-chairman of the party!  The congressional leadership, the fund raisers, people like that are supposed to decide.  You (the state party chairs, and DNC members) are supposed to get a call and are told who to vote for!  You're not supposed to really vote on this shit!'"

So there we have it, uppity little folks that we are?  I think this article is online and would love it if a ton of folk would send GQ a few love notes from the Deaniacs on board.

Please send cautionary note if I have quoted too much, please?

Originally posted to JFinNe on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 11:44 AM PST.

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  •  Rahm Emanuel is a SHIT (12+ / 1-)

    Carville is a SHIT. Both of them should fuck off to their ideological match: the GOP.

    Liberté, égalité, fraternité, ou la mort!

    by VoiceFromTheOuterWorld on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 11:55:43 AM PST

  •  Ryan Lizza TNR (1+ / 0-)
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    "SENIOR EDITOR
    Ryan Lizza

    Ryan Lizza is the White House correspondent for The New Republic. He has been with the magazine since 1998. He previously worked at Harper's Magazine and the Center for Investigative Reporting, where he worked on an Emmy award-winning documentary for PBS's "Frontline." His writing has also appeared in The New York Times Magazine, Atlantic Monthly, New York, and The Washington Monthly."

  •  i will never understand this debate (6+ / 0-)

    For God's sake people:

    Rahm, Chuck and Howard ALL HELPED BRING US WHERE WE ARE TODAY. Hate Rahm and Chuck all you like, but they were major fundraisers, and you can't deny that.

    The REAL REASON WE WON in 2006:
    (1) George W. Bush
    (2) Disciplined, well-liked candidates.

    Enough already with these Rahm/Dean war articles. Some day, us Democrats will realize that we have greater enemies than one another. This diary is proof that today is not that day.

    •  Ack (16+ / 0-)

      If the Carville/Rahm club wasn't always opening fire taking pot-shots at Dean and his supporters, you wouldn't see Dean's supporters shooting back.  There's a difference between opening fire and shooting back.  But I'm guessing you would prefer that the grassroots and netroots supporters unilaterally disarmed and just let the Kewl Kidz take potshots at them.  Sorry, that's not the way living politics works.

      Power lines have surges; unwinnable wars have escalations.

      by ActivistGuy on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 12:18:34 PM PST

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    •  Hear, hear! (1+ / 0-)
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      "He that sees but does not bear witness, be accursed" Book of Jubilees

      by Lying eyes on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 12:32:35 PM PST

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    •  asdf (3+ / 0-)
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      I can't believe you trolled VFOW for that.  

      Dean, Feingold, Sanders, and Conyers are from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.

      by dkmich on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:53:36 PM PST

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    •  Well, I for one think that respect (1+ / 0-)
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      is the way to go.  Thing is, respect is a 2-way street!  Rahm, Carville, and con-lite DLC are NOT respectful of the Democrats that VOTE (aka: US!)!  They act and speak (quoted in articles and direct on tv shows, etc) as if they're fighting on 2 fronts:  Against the republiCONS as WELL as US!  It's pathetic, really, but they show us no respect...zip...none.  And to think that you would expect us, after the way that they've attacked us, to be the ones to mend this particular fence?  I don't think so.  Perhaps some will be willing, and perhaps I myself will come around after awhile, but I've been quite offended by many Democrats in DC and the way they snub their noses at us.  Ironically, without us, they wouldn't win....at least not without becoming turncoats and reaching out to the Corporate MoneyBags....and once they do that, they sell US out!

      So, I see it as a vicious cycle that will only be broken once Rahm, Carville, and folks of THEIR "mold" (pun intended) realize that they have a "come to Jesus" moment lying in wait with US.  They will have much "crow" to eat, and I anticipate many "flames" will have to be endured, but until they do this and sincerely apologize, I doubt very many of "us" will think of them fondly.  In fact, I suspect that we will continue to keep a watchful, judgmental, keen eye on them and everything they do.  It is up to them to prove to us that they really, honestly, and truly haven't "totally" sold out and that they're true-blue Dems.  It's gonna take time, and "hard work" on their part, but they need to do it to win us (well, me at least) back.

  •  Carville (10+ / 0-)

    Who the fuck is Carville? Rahm, okay, he's the head of the DCCC. He holds office within the party, as does Dean. It's too bad if these people have to be squabbling in public, but whatever.

    But Carville? Remind me, please - what exactly is Carville's office? Who elected this piece of shit to anything? Carville is just a con artist who's trying to make a living out of the media mistaking him for a legitimate representative of the Democratic Party.

    The fact that this article cites Carville as a central source, and even as a protagonist, of the internal dealings of the Democratic Party tells you everything you need to know about it.

    Damn George Bush! Damn everyone that won't damn George Bush! Damn every one that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning George Bush!

    by brainwave on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 12:02:54 PM PST

    •  Overstated (1+ / 0-)
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      Maybe I overstated Carville "stating."  It is a long article and needs to be read in toto for context.  He does, however, admit to doing Rahm's bidding to oust Dean.

      "Man's life's a vapor Full of woe. He cuts a caper, Down he goes. Down de down de down he goes.

      by JFinNe on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 12:18:20 PM PST

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      •  Admit - or CLAIM to be doing Rahm's bidding? n/t (0+ / 0-)

        Damn George Bush! Damn everyone that won't damn George Bush! Damn every one that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning George Bush!

        by brainwave on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:00:33 PM PST

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        •  Quotes (1+ / 0-)
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          "Flush with victory after the election, Rahm's allies, led by Carville, try to mount a coup..."  "'You can't go into 2008 having a party chairman that is completely disconnected from the congressional leadership and the campaign committees'" Carville tells me...  "'It's not any secret that Tahm has expressed disdain for Dean and not very secret that Rahm and I are close.  It doesn't take a lot of dot-connecting here.'"

          "Man's life's a vapor Full of woe. He cuts a caper, Down he goes. Down de down de down he goes.

          by JFinNe on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:10:06 PM PST

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          •  See, what I see here (2+ / 0-)
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            is Carville claiming he's all chummy with Rahm and privy to the ruminations of Democratic leadership circles - and a journo who's so enarmored with Carville that (s)he's just lapping the stuff up.  

            Damn George Bush! Damn everyone that won't damn George Bush! Damn every one that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning George Bush!

            by brainwave on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:25:29 PM PST

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            •  Interesting take (1+ / 0-)
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              Very interesting take and probably partly right.  Carville's remarks, I most likely culled more than Emanuel's because they are so forth right and he says what he means, whereas Rahm, for the most part is more guarded.  The two pretty much get equal time in the article though.

              After the elections were over and Rahm had made his concilliary speech about working with the Republicans, he jumped up on his desk and yells "'The Republicans can go f**k themselves.'"

              "Man's life's a vapor Full of woe. He cuts a caper, Down he goes. Down de down de down he goes.

              by JFinNe on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:36:17 PM PST

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            •  Carville claiming he's all chummy with Rahm (0+ / 0-)

              Lapp has the luxury of making these decisions without ever talking to neurotic candidates or dealing with the daily grind of the individual races. He is the equivalent of an air-force general calling in strikes at 30,000 feet while sitting at a desk thousands of miles away. The guys in the trenches aren’t even allowed to call him. But James Carville can weigh in, and does, constantly (so often that IE staffers joke about changing their phone numbers). Carville is part of Rahm’s strategic brain trust, and like many of Rahm’s friends from the Clinton era, he has a personal stake in Rahm’s success.

              http://men.style.com/...

              Carville is not just claiming he's all chummy with Rahm, he is Rahm's "bestest friend" and has been since the days they worked for Clinton together.

              Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

              by William Domingo on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 04:26:00 PM PST

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            •  Carville is a f---ing spy! (3+ / 0-)

              Election night 2004: Carville phones his Republican wife who is a guest at the White House, to tell her inside-stuff about Kerry's legal strategy for the Ohio race.  No doubt within three minutes the news was in Karl Rove's hands, and the rest, as they say, is history.

              He's either a f---ing Republican spy or his sense of operational security is so lacking that he's guilty of dereliction of duty.

              Either way, he deserves to be dunked in a vat of horse shit and dropped off on an ant mound.    

    •  protagonist? (3+ / 0-)
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      antagonist.

      Democratic Candidate for US Senator, Wisconsin, in 2012

      by ben masel on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 12:23:23 PM PST

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    •  Who the fuck is Carville? (3+ / 0-)
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      Carville is the "hit-man" for the Clintons, when he's not passing Democratic secrets on to the White House through his Republican opprative wife. He and Bagala work on both the Clinton's re-election campaigns.

      Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

      by William Domingo on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 01:21:41 PM PST

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    •  Carville.... (4+ / 0-)

      ....hasn't done anything worthwhile since about 1992 or 1996 or so.

  •  yeah but its GQ magazine (1+ / 0-)
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    VoiceFromTheOuterWorld

    not exactly a mag for politico junkies....

    more like a big, fat book of advertisements

  •  Rahm Emanuel (2+ / 0-)
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    There was another good article about this Rahm Emanuel hate towards Howard Dean in the New York Times called "The Inside Agitater". They both have offices in the same building, and a lot of fighting going on, started by Rahm Emanuel, in case you didn't know. Rahm Emanuel and the rest of the DLCers hated the 50-state strategy and wanted to stop it at all costs. They felt all the money should go to them, and only them. Here's a sample.

    Emanuel, whose office sits a floor below Dean’s in the D.N.C. building, want to reach through the tile ceiling and throttle him.

    What was remarkable about this fight, as it dragged on throughout the summer, was just how public it became, and the extent to which it seemed to be pulling influential Democrats into its vortex. Bren Simon, a wealthy Democratic patron from Indiana who has entertained virtually every leading Democrat at her second home in Washington, told me that she warned Emanuel and Schumer that she wouldn’t write them any more checks if they didn’t stop fighting Dean over his 50-state strategy. Then there was the morning early in the summer when Brazile ran into Emanuel on the steps of the D.N.C. building and started loudly lecturing him about his attacks on the chairman, in full view of party employees. Emanuel protested that he just wanted to win back the House. Two of the Democratic Party’s leading strategists — one who had helped run the White House, the other who had managed a presidential campaign — stood there barking at each other on the street.

    The Inside Agitator - New York Times

    Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

    by William Domingo on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 01:39:33 PM PST

    •  Short sided. (0+ / 0-)

      This seems so short sided on Rahm Emauel's part regardless of how he felt/feels about Dean.  Here he has/had an entire netroots army wanting and working for the same things.  One of Emanuel's top aides said "nobody likes Dean."  So tough shit.

      Too, they all seemed wary and skeptical that the Democrats would actually win, and not until the votes started coming in did Emanuel exhale.  That seems, in retrospect, antithical to what the bloggers were expecting.

      "Man's life's a vapor Full of woe. He cuts a caper, Down he goes. Down de down de down he goes.

      by JFinNe on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 01:49:01 PM PST

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      •  an entire netroots army (4+ / 0-)
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        The DLC leaders of the Party don't "like" the netroots. You have to understand what the DLC is all about to understand the fight between Howard Dean and Rahm Emauel, (and Schummer, and Carville, and Reid, et. al). They don't want "Liberals" elected in the Democratic Party and do everything they can to prevent it. That's why they were so upset by what Dean was doing. The DLC had control of the DNC (and hence all it's money) for 12 years and spent it on "moderate Democrats" accordingly, and along comes Dean upsetting their apple cart, and they didn't like that. So that's why they did everything they could to fight him every step of the way. They SILL haven't given up hope of running him out, and that's what Caville's attack last month was all about.

        Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

        by William Domingo on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:01:55 PM PST

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      •  Short sided. (0+ / 0-)

        This is what I was telling you about in the post above. I'm still reading the article in between other reading. It's a long article, but pretty good.

        With a month left in the campaign, I ask one of Rahm’s top aides about Dean, and she explodes. "He’s so frustrating. I just don’t like him, anyway. I haven’t liked him from the beginning.

        The division was not only tactical but also ideological. Since 2004 the Democratic party has divided into two warring camps, the Deaniacs and the Clintonites. On one side are Dean, the state parties, various liberal bloggers, and antiwar activists. They see the Clinton years as a wasted era in which party institutions withered and a White House obsessively focused on winning the next news cycle sold out the traditional values of the Democratic Party and ultimately delivered Congress to the Republicans. On the other side are Rahm and the Clintonites, who strongly believe that the only future for the party is to hew to the ideological middle

        Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

        by William Domingo on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 04:45:35 PM PST

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  •  Party Leaders (2+ / 0-)
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    Here's another article about attacks by DLC "Party Leaders" on Howard Dean with some explanations about why they do it.

    On Thursday, Howard Dean was excoriated at a meeting with Senate Democrats for saying Republicans are "not very friendly to different kinds of people. They are a pretty monolithic party.... It's pretty much a white Christian party."

    The greatest enemy of American liberalism is the Democratic Party establishment. Despite vast advantages in fund raising and media coverage, the Republicans have been routed in the past. They can be routed again. Conservatives are paranoid and upon being confronted paranoid people come unglued. Yet whenever someone attempts to confront them, it is the maniacs in the modern Democratic Party who rush to the rescue of their sworn enemies.

    The Democrats irrationally repudiate the highly successful Republican approach of playing hardball. Early in 2004, the GOP brazenly announced that its game plan consisted of ridicule. Not respectful disagreement. Not a competition of ideas. Ridicule. Conservatives ridiculed Kerry’s appearance, his manner of speech, his ethnic background, his principles, his wife and his supporters. They even ridiculed his Purple Hearts. Karl Rove’s plan was to win the election the way elections in elementary school are won, including having his candidate’s buddies count the votes. Meanwhile, Kerry demanded that his staff remain respectful of Bush, who just might be the most inviting target for ridicule that God in Her infinite wisdom has ever created. The result? You know the result.

    The Republicans treat the Democrats with undisguised contempt, and the Democrats just take it. Worse, the Democrats explode in rage at anyone who notices. This pathology has been compared to Battered Spouse Syndrome, but battered spouses exhibit infinitely more self-respect than Democratic pols.

    Connecticut Senator Chris Dodd blasted Dean for being excessively candid. So did Chuck Schumer and Russ Feingold and Joe Biden and Barack Obama, along with most of their Democratic colleagues. It was the vicious gangbang liberals have longed to see, except the target was not Republicans. The target was the guy who condemns Republicans. Meanwhile, if the Senate Democrats are attacking Bush, they sure are being discreet about it.

    Make them Accountable

    Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

    by William Domingo on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:26:00 PM PST

    •  Post After Xmas? (0+ / 0-)

      OK, William Domingo, I tend to agree with you.  Today, the 23rd, Saturday of the December before Christmas is not the best time to post this diary, nor your coherent arguements.  So, Let us meet again, with others when less pressing matters prevail.  Maybe see you next week or so?  Looking forward to it.

      "Man's life's a vapor Full of woe. He cuts a caper, Down he goes. Down de down de down he goes.

      by JFinNe on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 05:09:41 PM PST

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  •  "Kingmaker" (4+ / 0-)
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    He’s the new kingmaker of the Democratic party. The man who handpicked candidates, twisted arms, crushed dissent, and delivered the nation from one-party rule. So what does the Clinton vet and former ballet dancer plan to do with all that power?

    Twenty-two months ago, amid the ruins of the 2004 Kerry campaign, Democrats installed Rahm as the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

    he ruthlessly recruited handpicked candidates over the objections of local party bosses and liberal activists,

    Despite the wins by traditionally liberal candidates in several districts, Rahm, with his insistence on playing to the middle, was undeniably the primary architect of the Democratic sweep.

    http://men.style.com/...

    See, Ryan Lizza the TNR author (a DLC rag) is sticking with the story that "playing to the middle" is the only way Democrats can win. Meanwhile, "Clinton vet" Rahm Emanuel spends all his time rounding up "ex-Republicans" to run on the Democratic Party ticket over the "over the objections of local party bosses and liberal activists".

    Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

    by William Domingo on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 02:55:53 PM PST

  •  Grow Up (0+ / 0-)

    Grow up and get over it.

    There is something truly sick about you Rahm obsessed.

    •  Add to the conversation please (2+ / 0-)
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      I would suggest that there are strong indications that the two men (and their attending staff members) do not appreciate each other or their political stances.  I don't necessarily agree that one has to be "obsessed" to make that observation.

      I haven't seen one comment that Rahm Emanuel be removed or "couped" against to remove him from his position, so "grow up and get over it" doesn't add much to the conversation either.

      "Man's life's a vapor Full of woe. He cuts a caper, Down he goes. Down de down de down he goes.

      by JFinNe on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 03:10:29 PM PST

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      •  Grow Up (2+ / 0-)
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        Rahm flashes the impatient stare that is a cross between contempt and pity, followed by a sigh and a long, uncomfortable silence. I brace myself for the tirade—or the freeze-out. He’s been known to meet reporters for lunch or dinner and, if they fail to impress, spend the meal ignoring them. And within the first forty-five seconds or so of our first interview, he called me a fucking idiot—though I soon learned I wasn’t special in that regard. James Carville, Rahm’s pal since their days together on the 1992 Clinton campaign, later told me not to sweat it: "Everybody is a fucking idiot to Rahm." Not even Bill Clinton is spared. When I ask the former president what is the bluntest thing Rahm has ever said to him, he tells me, "It’s unprintable."

        http://men.style.com/...

        Well, at least he didn't call us "a fucking idiot" or something else "unprintable" like Rahm always does. Grow up indeed.

        Republicans: "They are more interested in protecting themselves than minors." Joe Scarborough.

        by William Domingo on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 03:24:56 PM PST

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  •  Without Dean................... (2+ / 0-)

    I doubt it if Rahm could pull it alone.

    He would have gained seats but not the Congress.

    •  without Dean (1+ / 0-)
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      Rahm would be out front looking for somebody else to blame for yet another congressional mid-term disaster for democrats. the 50-state strategy is what made a national victory possible, and rahm was 'agin' it'.

      Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

      by alizard on Sat Dec 23, 2006 at 10:28:32 PM PST

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  •  Dean won the hearts of the democrats (3+ / 0-)

    all others worked on the other side of the Street, the K side , of the special interests, the big shots who contribute to the party... Dean is the man of the young people, the man of the future!

    We need democrats who say what they think!

    If they throw him out we will have him run with Gore! That would be a winning combination!

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