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What Really Happened.

Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:19:44 AM PDT

Dear Friends,

As most of you have probably heard, I was arrested before the State of the Union Address tonight.

I am speechless with fury at what happened and with grief over what we have lost in our country.

There have been lies from the police and distortions by the press. (Shocker) So this is what really happened:

This afternoon at the People's State of the Union Address in DC where I was joined by Congresspersons Lynn Woolsey and John Conyers, Ann Wright, Malik Rahim and John Cavanagh, Lynn brought me a ticket to the State of the Union Address. At that time, I was wearing the shirt that said: 2245 Dead. How many more?

After the PSOTU press conference, I was having second thoughts about going to the SOTU at the Capitol. I didn't feel comfortable going. I knew George Bush would say things that would hurt me and anger me and I knew that I couldn't disrupt the address because Lynn had given me the ticket and I didn't want to be disruptive out of respect for her. I, in fact, had given the ticket to John Bruhns who is in Iraq Veterans Against the War. However, Lynn's office had already called the media and everyone knew I was going to be there so I sucked it up and went.

I got the ticket back from John, and I met one of Congresswoman Barbara Lee's staffers in the Longworth Congressional Office building and we went to the Capitol via the undergroud tunnel. I went through security once, then had to use the rest room and went through security again.

My ticket was in the 5th gallery, front row, fourth seat in. The person who in a few minutes was to arrest me, helped me to my seat.

I had just sat down and I was warm from climbing 3 flights of stairs back up from the bathroom so I unzipped my jacket. I turned to the right to take my left arm out, when the same officer saw my shirt and yelled; "Protester." He then ran over to me, hauled me out of my seat and roughly (with my hands behind my back) shoved me up the stairs. I said something like "I'm going, do you have to be so rough?" By the way, his name is Mike Weight.

The officer ran with me to the elevators yelling at everyone to move out of the way. When we got to the elevators, he cuffed me and took me outside to await a squad car. On the way out, someone behind me said, "That's Cindy Sheehan." At which point the officer who arrested me said: "Take these steps slowly." I said, "You didn't care about being careful when you were dragging me up the other steps." He said, "That's because you were protesting."  Wow, I get hauled out of the People's House because I was, "Protesting."

I was never told that I couldn't wear that shirt into the Congress. I was never asked to take it off or zip my jacket back up. If I had been asked to do any of those things...I would have, and written about the suppression of my freedom of speech later. I was immediately, and roughly (I have the bruises and muscle spasms to prove it) hauled off and arrested for "unlawful conduct."

After I had my personal items inventoried and my fingers printed, a nice Sgt. came in and looked at my shirt and said, "2245, huh? I just got back from there."

I told him that my son died there. That's when the enormity of my loss hit me. I have lost my son. I have lost my First Amendment rights. I have lost the country that I love. Where did America go? I started crying in pain.

What did Casey die for? What did the 2244 other brave young Americans die for? What are tens of thousands of them over there in harm's way for still? For this? I can't even wear a shrit that has the number of troops on it that George Bush and his arrogant and ignorant policies are responsible for killing.

I wore the shirt to make a statement. The press knew I was going to be there and I thought every once in awhile they would show me and I would have the shirt on. I did not wear it to be disruptive, or I would have unzipped my jacket during George's speech. If I had any idea what happens to people who wear shirts that make the neocons uncomfortable that I would be arrested...maybe I would have, but I didn't.

There have already been many wild stories out there.

I have some lawyers looking into filing a First Amendment lawsuit against the government for what happened tonight. I will file it. It is time to take our freedoms and our country back.

I don't want to live in a country that prohibits any person, whether he/she has paid the ulitmate price for that country, from wearing, saying, writing, or telephoning any negative statements about the government. That's why I am going to take my freedoms and liberties back. That's why I am not going to let Bushco take anything else away from me...or you.

I am so appreciative of the couple of hundred of protesters who came to the jail while I was locked up to show their support....we have so much potential for good...there is so much good in so many people.

Four hours and 2 jails after I was arrested, I was let out. Again, I am so upset and sore it is hard to think straight.

Keep up the struggle...I promise you I will too.

Love and peace soon,
Cindy

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  •  GREAT job Cindy (4.00 / 34)

    we love ya
    •  Bastards! (4.00 / 13)

      The First Amendment means nothing to BushCo and their security forces. They don't think, they just overreact. America is becoming a police state.

      Events Our Dear Leader attends are almost always staged these days. The State of the Union Address has become a laughable farce, stuffed with rhetoric and false promises designed to make these idiots look responsible when they really aren't.

      The Orwellian language...the callous disregard for the Constitution...the mistreatment of patriotic citizens...the spying...the harassment...are now well known trademarks of this administration.

      We cannot allow this to continue. We cannot allow the media to perpetuate administration lies. It is time to stand up and fight. Cindy Sheehan's a fighter and I hope she keeps fighting. It's people like Cindy that inspire other Americans to act.

      •  it is amazing to me how blatatantly they lie! (4.00 / 6)

        bush and his cronies lie so easily these days.  there is no one who checks what any of them are saying against facts.  like when bush says how much he cares about the troops....  if he cares so much, why is he trying to cut benefits and close va hospitals?  if he wants kids to have an education, why is he cutting student loan funding?  and one of the hacks on after the speech (which i did not watch btw) flat out lied when asked about the student loans!  he said that the cuts to student loan funding was a lie, AND NO ONE TOOK HIM ON ABOUT IT!  and people out there believe it....  

        i don't know why.  do they block out the connection?  bush and his family and his cronies have made their fortunes off of oil, yet he says he wants independence.  things he has said before btw.  yet no one questions  his intention.... no one even bats an eyelash at the irony of such statements about oil independence.  no one wonders about any sort of conflict of interest.  they just bend over and take all the lies...

        last night i was watching gilmore girls...  and loralai was telling her friend how to get a leash on her dog.  she said he is fine with having his freedom taken away as long as he doesn't see it happening, like americans.  i took a breath.  wow!   that is so true!  

      •  Unfortuantely, the state of the Union itself (4.00 / 3)

        is what is becoming a laughable farce.
          •  53% AGREE with the decision to arrest (none / 0)

            Good grief.

            "Everything's shiny, Captain. Not to fret."

            by rmwarnick on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 07:53:30 AM PDT

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            •  If you have two browsers, it's an easy (4.00 / 2)

              way to prove that MSNBC polls are total crap.

              Why?

              Because I was able to vote again by using MSIE after I voted using Firefox.

              All the vote proves is that some right wing masturbators are erasing their cookies.

              MSNBC is a joke - at the very least, they should disallow more than one from a specific IP address.

              "If you want to go quickly, go alone. If you want to go far, go together." We need to go far, quickly.

              by shpilk on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:20:30 AM PDT

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            •  They agree because... (none / 0)

              They agree because they don't understand what really happened.  They just heard press reports that Cindy Sheehan was arrested for protesting.  They didn't get details about it just being a T-shirt or that she didn't cause any disruption.
              Ironically, has Cindy worn a nice business outfit she could have stoof up in the middle of the speech and started yelling at the top of her lungs.  

              This is the "liberal" media screwing up yet again.  Oh and you probably won't hear about the Republican who was thrown out for wearing a support our troops T-Shirt.  That won't get covered at all because it doesn't fit the "wacky liberal protester" meme.  

              Cindy, by the way, I read what happened and I wanted to ask you, how the sergeant reacted to you when you told him about your son?  I mean on here, the majority of us sympathize with and support you, but I'm curious as to what reaction you get from random guy who served in Iraq.

              ---
              Some of my best friends are wrong

              by sterno on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 11:10:44 AM PDT

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              •  Correction (none / 0)

                To be fair, I did a quick search on google news and the coverage isn't bad.  I've seen repeated mentions of the Republican wife who was booted too.  So I withdraw my criticism...

                See, I can admit I'm wrong, I must not be a Republican :)

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                Some of my best friends are wrong

                by sterno on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 11:16:53 AM PDT

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            •  Borrowing from the Brits: (none / 0)

              "How can 53% be so stupid?"
          •  Freep Other Poll Too (none / 1)

            While the Cindy Sheehan poll is currently 53% yes, 47% no, the one right next to it is very interesting at: "Did President Bush persuade you that he has the right plan for the country?" with 33% yes, 67% no. So, maybe more people have some sense of decorum about the Capitol or don't like Sheehan or protests, but they sure don't like Bush either -- in even larger numbers!
            •  Interesting... (none / 0)

              Seems to be perhaps a case of the new libertarian-leaning pro-apathy, I-hate-anyone-with-an-opinion-or-political-direction that seems so popular among so called middle of the road types and independents these days.  

              The only place where Republicans are anywhere close to responsible is in the dictionary.

              by DemDachshund on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 09:42:08 AM PDT

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        •  I can't watch it (4.00 / 3)

          The ridiculous applause when the liar says black is white.
          The bowing and scraping as the liar leaves the room.
          I did tune in to CSPAN towards the end of the rebroadcast of the liar's speech in order to watch Tim Kaine's response.
          I don't know how other people feel about this but how can some Democrats go running over to pat the liar on the shoulder and smile and shake his hand?  
          Why do the Democrats politely join in to clap softly at what the liar says?
          I would need a barf bag to sit there.
          sheeeesh
          Are these people nuts?
          This man should be impeached for crimes.
          Why is there the bowing and scraping?
          I wish Freud or Fromme or somebody were still around so they could explain what the (bleep) is going on here.A display of reverence and respect for someone who behaves like a criminal. I see intimidation and bullying by a man who says look at me I can break laws that defy this congress and when I come to them to lie about the true state of affairs that same Congress "rolls over" (words used by Wes Clark in his recent speech) to honor a bully and criminal.  
      •  Action plan? (none / 1)

        We're all going to comment (or as someone said, opine) about how terrible the situation is. Is there some useful, concrete action the blogosphere can take in response to incidents like this? Let's mobilize about freedom of speech the way we did about Alito, but maybe even more proactively.

        The Next Agenda a dkos-style blog for Canadian politics

        by Thursday Next on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 06:46:58 AM PDT

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      •  Thank You Cindy Sheehan (none / 0)

        and may history forever curse those who add to your pain.

        You can't get away with the crunch, 'cuz the crunch always gives you away

        by dnamj on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 09:04:01 AM PDT

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      •  But it means something to Rep. Woolsey (none / 0)

        (The first amendment that is) Here is what she said in defense of Cindy.  And that idiotic, illegal arrest.

        Tell it, Lynn.

        Should a "progressive" Dem blog dwell in the safe zones of a tame party, or should it drive a tame party to break out?

        by NYCee on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 09:53:43 PM PDT

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    •  Photo of incident (4.00 / 10)

      Cindy Sheehan being taken out of the gallery by the officer (hand on arm) after removing her jacket:

      •  Uh, no (none / 1)

        Unless her tshirt was a black long sleeved t-shirt, that appears to be a black jacket.
      •  thanks for the photo (none / 1)

        great evidence.  not sure why anyone'd take offense.

        It's ONE thing for them to prevent peaceful disagreementss at Bush/Cheney speeches.  

        BUT IN THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE, HOW DARE YOU DENY SOMEONE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS???  & to someone who GAVE HER SON to this country??

        What a bunch of hacks.  Bush gives a speech about the "promise of America" but when an American doesn't have the First Amendment right to SIT QUIETLY & RESPECTFULLY in front of him, THEN IT'S ALL A LIE.

        But then we know everything he said was a lie anyway.

        thank you, Cindy, for being there & i offer you my sinceriest apologies for considering that the CNN "unfurling the banner" story was even potentially true.

        never again.

        •  Where did that shit of a story (none / 1)

          get started and how did it get spread? Anybody know?

          Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

          by Earl on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:07:52 AM PDT

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          •  CNN "reporter" Ed Henry (none / 1)

            quoting (or channeling) a WH spokesperson, as I recall
          •  News websites still on the "banner" (none / 1)

            The story Bush accents America's duty abroad was written by PETER BAKER and MICHAEL A. FLETCHER, of The Washington Post

            The paragraph:

            The emotional opposition to the war also played out in the chamber yesterday night just minutes before Bush arrived, when antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan, invited by a Democratic House member, unfurled a banner in the gallery and was arrested by Capitol Police for disrupting decorum.

            is still running on numerous papers websites without correction.

            the Concorde Monitor

            Inside Bay Area (with many other papers linking to them)

            the Missourian

            And many more.

            And (won't link properly) the Philadeplphia Inquirer's blog (http://blogs.philly.com/...) now reads:

            ... Here is a little multiple choice quiz (grades don't count.) "Peace Mom" Cindy Sheehan got herself arrested when she revealed her ant-war T-shirt in the House gallery. The family of another soldier killed in Iraq was honored with applause and appreciation for the son's duty

            But Google shows it, in its preview, reading this:

            ... Here is a little multiple choice quiz (grades don't count.) Anti-war mom Cindy Sheehan got herself arrested when she tried to unfurl a banner in the audience...
            .

            There is no mention of the change in the blog. Hmm.

            Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

            by Earl on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:58:29 AM PDT

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        •  email CNN (none / 1)

          It appears CNN has purged its website of references to the banner unfurling, and not issued a public retration.

          Can this be confirmed? I just did a rudimentary web search, and I only just heard about the incident, never saw the original article.

          •  i saw the story (none / 1)

            i should've screen-shot it but CNN had it & has to either lie that it never happened or deny the 1000s who saw it.

            call them on it & ask them where they got that story from?

            & why they say she "refused to cover the shirt" when she is saying the exact opposite.

            WHY THE HELL WON'T THEY QUOTE HER?

            when people get shot in the streets, the news grabs any random person connected to story to give a "statement".

            WHY WON'T CNN TAKE A STATEMENT FROM CINDY???

        •  As of this morning... (none / 1)

          CNN has changed their story. It still differs significantly from Cindy's version but it does at least say it was the T-shirt and not a banner.

          http://www.cnn.com/...

          conscietious objector in the battle of the sexes

          by plymouth on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:29:43 AM PDT

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    •  Thank you, Cindy! (4.00 / 6)

      I just want to let you know that both Democrats and Republicans disagree with your arrest!

      They might not agree with you, but they agree with your right to protest!

      •  Puh leeze (none / 1)

        The Rethugs are the reason this happened.  gimme a break.
      •  Forgive me (none / 1)

        if I'm unimpressed with the "disagreement" of a few right-wing bloggers.

        Ever notice how conservatives don't conserve anything?

        by MHB on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 04:37:30 AM PDT

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      •  as seen in a thread over there, (4.00 / 4)

        Cindy, thank you for fighting, I believe the law is on your side as well: see Bynum v. Capitol Police Board (a 19 page PDF, but fairly straightforward). First, merely wearing a t-shirt does not constitute demonstration activity, according to the Capitol Police Board's own regulations.

        However, even if it did, you'd still have a First Amendment case, which they also go on to explain in that ruling, going so far as to strike down the very portion of the statute that might try to ban it as being overbroad.

      •  I'm impressed (none / 1)

        that they went to the trouble to look up statutes and stuff. Usually the average wingnut is satisfied with "My gut tells me that as an American it is my right under the creator to wear a t-shirt."

        tragically un-hip
        ..- .... --..-- / --- -.- .-.-.-

        -5.88, -6.82

        by Debby on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:54:39 AM PDT

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        •  Check it out sometime (none / 0)

          Balloon Juice is actually a pretty good blog--John Cole is a moderate conservative, and his co-blogger Tim F. is a reasonable liberal. A lot of the posters are fairly liberal, some libertarian, some conservative, a few nuts, a couple of lunatics, and a few jokers. It can be a fairly fun and freewheeling place, once you get the hang of it and get to know the regulars.
    •  Cindy, please file a lawsuit (4.00 / 4)

      I know you've been through a lot, but I wish you would file a lawsuit so that we can re-establish our right to free speech in public.

      It seems to me that the real issue here is the need to protect Bush, our Dear Leader, from any evidence of what he has done. Maybe Bush's ego is that fragile.

      Economic Left/Right: -6.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85 That makes me more Gandhi than Stalin

      by TomDuncombe on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 04:27:24 AM PDT

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    •  Cindy - take heart (none / 0)

      Cindy, take heart.  

      What I'm about to say may seem harsh but I truly believe its the best approach for how to handle this.  Take it or leave it, I mean it with the best of intentions.

      I'm writing as an outsider and "only" a $ contributor to the Peace House, who never went to Texas, but has watched and paid attention to your media coverage over the last year.  For what its worth.

      Your problem is that you come across as a neophyte to the game of power politics, and you have successfully been stamped as a fruitcake based on quotes magnified and taken out of context to turn you into the new Jane Fonda.   This is a fucking tragedy.  

      The Right wanted people to think anything about you, anything else to distract from the essential truth that YOU LOST A SON. And it worked. Unfortunately you made some comments that gave the Right a bagful of ammo to use against you. That plus you're speaking voice needs a dose of power persuasion to go along with the tears.  You're very smart and know the issues, but unfortunately grief only goes so far with a citizenry so cut off from their own emotions that they can't listen otherwise.

      Another reason why silent vigils are often preferable to a dozen interviews.

      But the best thing working for you is that you never say die.  You're obviously utterly committed to your struggle, down to the bitter end, and persistence goes a long way.  If the Right wants to shut you up, they'll have to send you to Gitmo to do it.

      Take heart with this: populist movements often emerge from the "free-speech" crusades of political opponents eager to challenge the laws and unwritten codes of rituals and formal spectacles. This happened in both the french revolution, and the civil rights era.

      Free speech appeals can be especially potent in America where it is seen as a core value - enchanced by its special status in the 1st Amendment. Legally it has struggled but it does resonate powerfully from a PR standpoint.

      What will backfire is if the Left makes all kinds of the wrong hay out of your plight and exaggerates just those qualities of you and your past comments that the Right wants them to.  Better to quietly pursue this in the courts and stick to the PR aspects of free speech - don't let the Left make the same mistake twice of turning you into a symbol.

      "I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords..."

      by pawlr on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 05:53:39 AM PDT

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      •  Yeah (4.00 / 12)

        Yeah Cindy, remember that Democrats are really big on very silent opposition.  Usually so silent you don't even know its there. They want you to be like them.  Please don't rock the boat.  Please don't make any waves.  And dear god, please don't do anything.  You know, just like the Democrat's opposition to the war before you went to Crawford.

        If anyone is neophytes to power politics, its the Democrats.  Just the fact that they call it a "game" shows how clueless they are.  That and the fact that they keep losing, and losing, and losing, and losing, and losing, and losing.....

        Advice from Democrats on power politics is like advice from Charlie Brown on kicking a football .... good grief!

        Cindy, just keep being yourself.  You've done more in opposition to Bush in a year than pretty much the pretty much the whole Democratic party has done during the entire Bush administration .... well, John Conyers excepted ... but the Democrats do their best to ignore him too.

        --Come to Denver in 2008! www.recreate68.org

        by COBear on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 06:35:18 AM PDT

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      •  On Fruitcakes & Neophytes (4.00 / 3)

        Your problem is that you come across as a neophyte to the game of power politics, and you have successfully been stamped as a fruitcake based on quotes magnified and taken out of context to turn you into the new Jane Fonda.

        Jesus H. Christ, everybody's an image consultant. This poster discounts the best of Cindy's virtues. This poster is completely blind to what Cindy is--and what she isn't!

        She's not a contrivance! She's not a PR construction pieced together for a fearful electorate and clayfooted politicians. She's Cindy, natural and unrehearsed, and free to take risks and make mistakes precisely because she doesn't sit on her hands worrying about how she "comes across." Cindy Sheehan takes principled action when everyone else is too busy working the angles, calculating every step, paralyzed with fear. See Samuel Alito's nomination to the SCOTUS for more about political paralysis.  

        Cindy's a gadfly, rough-hewn and inconvenient, like Socrates. Why would you want to turn a perfectly good gadfly into another ineffectual gladhander? We've got enough of those. The more Cindy pisses people off--from the left and the right--the more I know she's making progress, getting through. You want political sophistication? Fine! Politcal sophisticates are great about making fewer PR blunders. Great for avoiding any action that could be made into "the wrong kind of hay." They're masters at inaction and CYA. But are they good for anything else?

        What will backfire is if the Left makes all kinds of the wrong hay out of your plight and exaggerates just those qualities of you and your past comments that the Right wants them to.  Better to quietly pursue this in the courts and stick to the PR aspects of free speech - don't let the Left make the same mistake twice of turning you into a symbol.

        Oh, balderdash. Absolute rot. You go and turn yourself into pretzel if you want. You go wring your hands all day & night about backfire and the wrong kinds of hay and PR aspects, if that's your thing.

        Meanwhile, Pssst Cindy: better to be yourself. It's "working" fine.

        God bless our tinfoil hearts.

        by aitchdee on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 02:40:22 PM PDT

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    •  Last night some people on Daily Kos were slamming (4.00 / 2)

      her for "unfurling a banner."

      Why was everyone so quick to swallow the Republican owned MSM lies?

      Today is the 1st Day of the Rest of your Life in a Fascist Dictatorship.

      by The Angry Hobbit on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:42:09 AM PDT

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    •  we love ya! (none / 0)

      you're the best, Cindy.  I don't need to tell you to keep at it, but thanks for reminding me to do that!
  •  N/T (4.00 / 17)

    Keep it up Cindy! Give 'em hell for the hell they gave you and NEVER back down.
    •  You're my hero, Cindy (4.00 / 6)

      Intentionally or not, you've disrupted the smooth script of the President's propaganda night, when all our other "leaders" sat in docile acquiesence to the assault on our democracy.

      Those who say you shouldn't have been there or shouldn't have worn the shirt cannot have thought that deeply about your loss, nor about freedom of speech in this country, nor about what it will take to take our country back.

      Those who consider this a "tactical error" can't have thought about how ineffective the triangulations and accomodations have proved in recent years (Kerry lost, media still in W's pocket, Alito on the Court).

      So thank you for showing how a real citizen continues to stand up to a rising tide of oppression.

      "Animals are my friends. And I don't eat my friends." -- George Bernard Shaw

      by Hudson on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 06:30:13 AM PDT

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    •  Hear, hear! (none / 1)

      We stand with you!

      We march with you!

      We hurt with you!

      We WIN with you!

      (From the Sept 24th protest - may only display for a short time.)

      Link to album with above pic and 40+ other shots from the protest, including MSOC, RenaRF, the Orange Kossack Kontingent, Al Sharpton, Pastor Dan, Wingnut Row, Camp Casey, Iraqi Vets Against the War, and Viet Vets for Peace:

      Dem in VA's 9/24/05 Protest Pics

    •  Wow... (4.00 / 14)

      If you stand with Cindy, this is the only way to express our feelings.

      Can't stop.

      Won't stop.

      Cindy speaks for me.

      "A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future." - Leonard Bernstein

      by outragedinSF on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:31:56 AM PDT

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      •  Hey (4.00 / 7)

        That's not a bad idea for a Tee shirt!

        Just another souless atheist working for World Peace and Harmony

        by Kankakee Voice on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:41:24 AM PDT

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        •  Speaking of T-Shirts... (4.00 / 8)

          Smurf This Poll---Turn it Blue!

          It's the MSNBC "Live Vote"

          Do you agree with the decision by Capitol Police to remove activist Cindy Sheehan from the gallery at the president's State of the Union speech because she was wearing a T-shirt with an antiwar slogan?

          •  how ironic (none / 0)

            I used to have a T shirt that said "Roland" on it
          •  It's pale blue now (none / 1)

            53 47 in favor of America at 6:20 EST
          •  51 / 49 (4.00 / 4)

            I know this might seem naive, but can it really be that out of 8,000 + people who took this poll over half think it is okay for the government to suppress  the clothing that people wear at such events?  She wasn't even chanting or waving signs or anything.  Is wearing a T-shirt even considered "protest"?  

            I'm flummoxed, frankly.  So much for freedom in the U.S., when about half of us are willing to live shackled.  What's the exchange?  For what, exactly, are these folks willing to exchange their freedom?  

            May all beings be free from fear.

            by shakti on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 05:49:21 AM PDT

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            •  These polls are crap (none / 1)

              And only illegitimately used by MSN, CNN, etc, to make bullcrap points WHEN THEY FAVOR BUSH/GOP GARBAGE.  They silently vanish if they display a favor towards the Dems and Blue-ness.  Plus, they are easily screwed with.  I can vote and vote and vote (and you can too) by merely deleting all your msn.com cookies and revisiting the site.  If I had the skillz I would whip up a script to auto-delete the appropriate cookies, visit the site and send the appropriate vote again and again.

              If nothing else, it removes a bogus point upon which the Old Media buttboys (and girls) can build pro-Bush spin.

              Reichstag fire is to Hitler as 9/11 is to Bush

              by praedor on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 06:23:56 AM PDT

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            •  It's protest for sure... (4.00 / 3)

              But it's not in any way disruptive to the event so it is unquestionably legitimate. Moreover, there were less intrusive ways to have neutralized her protest such as putting her jacket back on.

              Apparently, to MSNBC and the people who voted yes, the right to free speech only goes so far as is "appropriate." Sheesh. Fuck stupid Americans, and fuck these stupid polls that ask people their opinion about our fundamental rights, like their opinions mean dick. The very reason these rights were laid out is to protect the minority of people form having their rights trampled by ignorant assholes who get all riled up by fear-mongers. How hilarious that Bush talked about defending rights of minorities in other countries when he doesn't give a fuck about it in America.

            •  opposite reaction (none / 1)

              I have the opposite reaction every time I see polls saying anything is half and half, or really amazed polls skew slightly in favor of blue.

              The reason is that we have a mind control machine of a media and a republican government that puts out one lie after another and uses religion to as the spoon full of sugar when anything gets slightly disagreeable.  And even with this exhaustively amazing effort to control the minds, they only get 50% of us.

              I think the good news is that once you see what is behind the curtain, you can never go back to believing in the great Oz.  They will need a new generation, which of course they are working on as we speak.

              Whereas I have so little hope most of the time and yet still fight, I try to remember that they are failing to control half of us even with giving it all they got.  Amazing.

          •  Newspeak (4.00 / 2)

            How is "2248 Killed in Iraq", or any other unpleasant fact about the war, "an antiwar slogan"? That one line shows the MSNBC Orwell policy.

            "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

            by DocGonzo on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 03:31:06 PM PDT

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  •  We're with you, Cindy (4.00 / 14)

    Hope the lawsuit gets traction and helps wake people up to what's happening to our country.

    Al Qaeda No. 2: "We don't kill innocents." GW Bush: "We don't torture." How tragic that both statements bring the same snort of disbelief....

    by PatsBard on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:23:35 AM PDT

    •  and speaking of getting traction (none / 1)

      why isn't this the lead story on every network? "bush's stormtroopers mauling the grieving mother of a slain war hero!" should be the headline on every newspaper in the morning. we need a netroots campaign to demand coverage! if we can do it to deborah howell and chris matthews then we can do it now!

      "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."

      by hoodoo meat bucket on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:56:11 AM PDT

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      •  we can give it traction (none / 0)

        I think a lot of people got fired up during the filibuster project

        we can do the same thing with this...insist it gets covered by the media...and insist our dear leaders look into it

        •  the same thing that happened to cindy (4.00 / 11)

          today happened to my dad when bush came to santa monica a couple of years ago. he was wearing an anti-bush shirt and the cops cussed at him and called him a "fucking commie"(real fucking current!) and grabbed him violently and were about to arrest him until he told them he was a city council candidate and they chilled real fast! fucking fascists! i want them to pay, and hopefully cindy sheehan is a big enough name to shine a spotlight on this nazi shit, but we have to make it happen. LET'S MAKE SOME FUCKING NOISE!!!

          "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."

          by hoodoo meat bucket on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 01:10:36 AM PDT

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    •  Do you have a legal defense fund? (4.00 / 9)

      It's going to cost money to sue the government.  Please let us know where to contribute.

      I can't believe Americans can acquiesce in the conversion of our democracy into a corporate police state.  Shame on us.

      Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

      by Dallasdoc on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 04:27:06 AM PDT

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    •  You shoulda waited, Cindy (none / 0)

      If you had taken off your hoodie in the MIDDLE of the speech, the Secret Service would have had to make a choice of hauling you away and making a noticeable ruckus or leaving you alone, in which case one of the network cameras might have gotten a good honey shot.  Either way would have been great publicity.  When will we get our timing right?! Better luck next time.  

      -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

      by goldberry on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 06:40:04 AM PDT

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      •  better luck next time? (4.00 / 5)

        jeeze, she got arrested and roughed up because they didn't want her to be there.

        You're talking like she chose the time and place of her arrest.  That's silly.

        And making a ruckus at SOTU would NOT garner any sympathy from the public.  I'ld say intentionally causing a ruckus in the middle of the SOTU would be a big mistake.  In fact, the right-wing is desperate now to put that meme in the news, that she was disruptive.  She was not.

        When someone slaps your left cheek and you fight back, nobody has any sympathy for you anymore.

        I bet Casey would be very proud of his mother.  If my baby was in the ground, I wouldn't fear being arrested, not one bit.  God Bless you Cindy.

        p.s. Your comment pisses me off.

        In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

        by yet another liberal on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 06:54:28 AM PDT

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        •  I think what the poster is saying (3.00 / 2)

          Is that is she'd taken her jacket off quetly in the middle of the address that the security forces would have had the choice of creating the ruckus.  She wouldn't have been the rabble-rouser.

          The Republicans were right about one thing - The media is irresponsible.

          by nightsweat on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 07:28:07 AM PDT

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        •  Don't get your knickers in a twist (none / 0)

          First of all, I do not believe for one second that Cindy Sheehan didn't know that a T-shirt like hers is verboten in any venue where the president is speaking.  We've heard and seen too many cases of protesters, just exercising their 1st amendment rights, getting hauled off to jail over T-shirts.  Three of them in Colorado got kicked out of a speech just for having the wrong bumper sticker.  
          She can say she didn't know.  I can choose not to believe her.  I like Cindy.  I like her cause.  I just don't believe this excuse.  
          Second, I see nothing wrong with her taking her jacket off and showing her T-shirt during the speech.  If the Bushies didn't like it, it would have made THEM look bad, not Cindy.  A quiet attention getting protest is tasteful but to the point and she has a right to do it and remind Bush of who she is.  
          Third, nothing ventured, nothing gained.  Getting arrested for protesting is something that many people throughout the world have had to endure.  While it is regrettable that the bouncer was rough, this is a price we sometimes have to pay for our freedom.  Quit wringing your hands about how mean they were to Cindy and get used to it.  
          Some countries have Death Squads to deal with their Cindys.  The Bushies would too if they felt they could get away with it.  These people have no conscience and whining about why they didn't behave like Kindergarten teachers isn't being realistic.  Wake up and smell the coffee.  

          -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

          by goldberry on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:02:19 AM PDT

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          •  what I find inconsistent in this argument (none / 0)

            Is that if she knew the T-shirt would get her arrested and/or ejected, then why would she have taken it off too early?

            My guess is that she wanted to do as you say, so that the TV cameras would show her shirt, but she messed up and didn't realize that it would provide the excuse for her to be preempted.

            But either way, it made big news.  I don't think I'm the one hand wringing here.

            In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

            by yet another liberal on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:43:14 AM PDT

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            •  I dunno why she went early (none / 0)

              Maybe she figured she was going to get thrown out anyway so she did it early.  
              Alls I'm saying is that if she'd held out until about halfway through, the whole thing would have come off better for her.  The ruckus would have attracted the cameras, the Dems would have cheered and Bush would have looked stoopid.  

              -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

              by goldberry on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 10:26:02 AM PDT

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      •  re (none / 1)

        Indeed.  Cindy--I disagree with your arrest but I don't believe for a second that you walked in there not expecting trouble.

        That said..why didn't you get your money's worth and disrupt the speech?

        -------------------------------------------------------
        Take your protein pills and put your helmet on

        by SFOrange on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 09:54:34 AM PDT

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    •  First Amendment (none / 0)

      Wish we had a first amendment here in the UK.

      The evil bastard Bliar's government were defeated last night in the House of Commons in their attempt to restrict freedom of speech further.

      We are constantly fighting to retain our freedom to speak. Yesterday I sent an email to Bliar accusing him of murder with the blood of our hundredth casualty in Iraq upon his hands.

      I sent the email with my own address and signed it. In these small ways we must fight for our right to criticize the criminals who are stealing our nations.

      Go Cindy, there are plenty of people over here in the UK firmly standing with you.

      Best Wishes

      Malcolm

      The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.

      by malc19ken on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 08:43:11 AM PDT

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  •  Guard should be fired (3.92 / 14)

    Cindy that guard who rough-housed you should be fired! We need to start a petition to fire Mike Weight!

    As if he didn't know who you were. That was disgusting the way you were treated.

    You had every right to be there and wear anything you want.

    Stay strong we only have love for you!

  •  I stand with you, Cindy! (4.00 / 15)

    I love what you've been doing and I'm really ashamed of what this country has become.  Keep up the good fight.  
    •  They let a dog stay (4.00 / 4)

      They let a german shepherd sit through the State of the Union... But not the mother of a soldier who died in Iraq:

      http://abcnews.go.com/...

      Rex, a 5-year-old German shepherd, fit in with the other Iraq war veterans who were guests of Republicans and Democrats.

      Rex sniffed out bombs in Iraq. He's been the subject of congressional legislation. He's famous, and Wednesday night he became one of Mrs. Bush's guests at the State of the Union speech.

      Grotesque.

      "Animals are my friends. And I don't eat my friends." -- George Bernard Shaw

      by Hudson on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 06:53:28 AM PDT

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      •  yep. saw the dog. pretty fucking ironic. (none / 0)

      •  hmmm...why does that sound familiar (4.00 / 2)

        Oh, right--Caligula putting his horse in the Senate. I know, in general, Caligula comparisons are about as cliche and over-the-top as Hitler/Nazi comparisons. And I've got a bleeding heart when it comes to pets, I think service dogs of all types are pretty darn cool.

        But it says something when a dog can sit through SOTU and the mother of a killed serviceman is hauled away. In fact, it says the exact same thing that Caligula was trying to say to his senate when he put his horse in (take it away wikipedia):

        this could have been a political statement indicating that he felt his horse was as well qualified for the position as any of the incumbents

        The whole SOTU has become a joke. Theater, of the "Make it gay!" (The Producers) type--take out anything sad, take out any meaning. Just make it cute and fun. What's more cute than puppies, right?

        The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, and inhibit clarity. --Calvin & Hobbes

        by reid fan on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 10:09:51 AM PDT

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      •  I'm pretty sure (none / 1)

        the dog didn't start barking or trying to mark his turf. If you think Cindy didn't know what she was doing you may not be qualified to operate a keyboard. If you don't think the guards were attuned to the potential goings on, then you may not have been paying attention to the fact that she has dissed the admin at every opportunity, so it would be silly not to expect such activity at the SOTU.
        So we have, acknowledged and intentional disrupter/protester, national spotlight, staff focused on making sure no protesting occurred. Why wasn't she out banging pots? Why didn't she request time in the rebuttal slot to speak her mind? I like the fact that she does not hide behind wishy washy words. I hope she runs for Feinstein's seat. She's a fresh voice. But anybody with a brain knew that if she peeped she was going to be evicted. The reason the "unfurling" story stuck is because it was believable coming from her. We wouldn't have been surprised, any many here would have applauded. They kicked out everybody they saw with a message t-shirt. Clinton did the same thing, or rather, the Capitol Police or Secret Service did. Every Preidednt does and will do. The same thing would have been done if JFKerry had won the election.  

        Ban Intolerance Now!

        by brahma on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 11:04:52 AM PDT

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  •  Bush needs a reminder... (4.00 / 20)

    This is OUR country too. He and his followers don't own it, although they might think they do. You have every right to wear a t-shirt in a quiet protest, and I'm sorry you had to go through what you did.

    There's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated...insensitivity is standard and faith is being fancied over reason.-NoFx

    by SairaLV on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:24:46 AM PDT

  •  Where do I get a shirt like yours? (4.00 / 16)

    I support the troops, I support the mothers, I support your actions, and I support free speech.  Thanks for standing up once again Cindy, you do us all proud.
  •  May the cats be with you (4.00 / 3)

    and watch all over your endeavors.

    -8.75, -9.03 Initiate of the Divine Mysteries of the Most Holy Chloe, a calico cat...

    by UCSBClassics53 on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:27:55 AM PDT

  •  I am proud of you Cindy! (4.00 / 18)

    You have singlehandedly upstaged the worst President ever once more.

    Since you did not quite plan it, it was nothing less than an act from God.

    Hang in there, I'll pray for you (and I am an atheist).

    Dailykos.com; an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action -1.75 -7.23

    by Shockwave on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:29:38 AM PDT

  •  Do Woolsey, Lee and Conyers know about this? (4.00 / 15)

    I'm sure that the White House is going to get a "what the hell is going on here?" letter sometime in the next few weeks.

    Hopefully Conyers will let us know his take on this tomorrow.

    God bless you, Cindy.

    Support our troops--end waterboarding!

    by Christian Dem in NC on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 12:30:38 AM PDT

  •  I'm designing a T Shirt now (4.00 / 4)

    ...as are millions of people I'm sure

    if you go to www.Cafepress.com and surf around...they have a political section with anti-bush T-shirts, bumperstickers, etc

    must be zillions of sites with anti-Bush stuff, but that's the one I'm familiar with

  •  Maybe this is too personal... (4.00 / 8)

    but Cindy Sheehan's bruises photographed and blown up in scale would be some of the most powerful and meaningful political art in my memory.

    it may be too personal, or out of line. but if you think it wise, if not only for legal reasons...

    i would photograph your bruises if i were you.

    they didn't even give you a chance to zip it up.

    this is the end for them. this must be a rallying call to all americans about what bush stands for on our civil liberties.

    all these bastards had to do was ask. isn't that just plain honest fucking DOWN HOME COURTESY?!!?

    they wouldn't know the first thing about it.

    this is a sad day for america. but are we going to just sit by and watch it happen?

    not cindy. never her.

    she can say that.

    can we?

    •  visit a Doctor (4.00 / 4)

      he'd make a nice expert witness
    •  Ironic (4.00 / 9)

      Coretta Scott King dies and so does our right to peaceful, non-violent dissent?
    •  Definitely photo the bruises (4.00 / 5)

      I'm sure you've already been advised to do that.

      The police took photos of the bruises my husband caused.  They said we had to make sure to take photos of the bruses close up, and then also take pictures of yourself - full view of body with bruises visible.  This is so that it proves it was your arm, so a lawyer can't throw the pictures out because it can't be proven that it was really you.  So take a full series of pictures, and also make sure the date is validated, or that someone vouches for the fact that they took the pictures.