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Why We Act

Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:16:19 AM PDT

    Before sharing some thoughts with you, I wanted to make sure all of you know about an important event in New York City at 8pm tonight.  Harper's Magazine is hosting a public forum entitled "Is There a Case for Impeachment?"  It will be moderated by Sam Seder of Air America Radio's the Majority Report.  I will be on the panel with Lewis H. Lapham, the editor of Harper's and recent author of an article I highly recommend "The Case for Impeachment" (the web article is an excerpt, get the magazine for the whole thing).

    We will be joined by Michael Ratner, the President of the Center for Constitutional Rights; my former House Judiciary colleague who served with me during the impeachment of President Nixon, Liz Holtzman; and John Dean, a renowed legal scholar and former White House counselor to President Nixon.

        More information can be found at the Harper's website.  For those who cannot attend (and my understanding is that the event is at or near capacity) I am told that the Majority Report will be airing it live and C-span will be taping it for a later date.  

    For some time, I have opened some of my speeches with a fairly standard line about how great democracy is because hardly anyone votes but everyone complains.  There is a new variation on this problem among some in the progressive community and it goes like this: nothing we do matters, nothing we do changes anything so why bother doing anything.  Here are a few thoughts I will touch upon tonight that I offer in response:

Why We Act

    There are few roles in our constitutional government that are more frustrating than being a member of the minority party during a period of one party control of the government.  However, at a time when the majority party in general - and the president in particular - appears to be acting in open violation of the laws and the constitution, there are few jobs which are more important to the future of our democratic form of government.

    People think of Watergate, or Iran Contra as constituting crises.  They were in the sense that an executive branch was acting in violation of the law, and in tension with the majority party in the congress.  But in the end, the system worked, the abuses were investigated, and actions were taken - even if presidential pardons ultimately prevented a full measure of justice.  

    Today, the crisis is substantively and systemically far worse.  The alleged acts of wrongdoing - lying about the decision to go to war;  manipulation of intelligence; facilitating and countenancing torture; using confidential information to out a CIA agent; open and flagrant violations of federal wiretap laws - are far more egregious than any I have witnessed in my 41 years in Congress.  The majority party has shown no ability to engage in simple oversight, let alone challenge the Administration directly.  The courts, while operating as an occasional and partial check, are institutionally incapable of delving into most of the controversies we are presented with as a result of limitations on standing, ripeness, and other doctrines.  The media, which is increasingly concentrated,  was shell-shocked and in some respects cowered by 9/11, and for the most part unwilling to alienate the party in charge.

    Faced with that dilemma, we had a choice.  We could simply ignore the myriad of transgressions being committed, and continue to reacting to the legislative agenda put before us by the Republican Party on a day-to-day basis, or we could do everything in our power to call attention to and document these very grave abuses of power.  I opted for the latter course.

    I could not live with myself or my children, if when faced with an Administration that went to war under false pretenses, used classified information to smear political opponents;  and wiretapped innocent Americans without warrants, I did not formally respond to it.  If the Ranking Member of the Judiciary Committee, which has jurisdiction over the constitution, is silent on these matters, who else can we expect to speak out?

    So for the last several years I have:

*    Forwarded scores of letters to the Administration requesting information about these abuses, including most notably a letter inquiring about the accuracy of the Downing Street Minutes signed by 122 Members and more than 500,000 Americans.

*    Forwarded numerous letters to the Republican Chairs asking them to conduct hearings on these abuses, including a letter signed by 52 Members formally requesting that the Committees on Judiciary, Armed Services, International Relations and Intelligence convene hearings on the Downing Street Minutes.

*    Filed Freedom of Information Act requests with the Administration, asked for investigations by GAO, various Inspectors General, and the Justice Department.

*    Held our own Democratic hearings, for which we were forced by the Majority to retreat to the basement of the Capitol.

*    Completed a comprehensive report on the Downing Street Minutes and the Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution, and Coverups in the Iraq War, which was more than 270 pages and 1000 footnotes in length.

*    Filed legislation resulting from our investigation not only censoring the President and the Vice President, but creating a select committee to more fully investigate whether impeachable offenses had occurred.

*    When the NSA scandal broke, we again responded - with letters, requests for independent investigations, holding our own hearing, and are now in the process of completing a comprehensive report of these and related civil rights and civil liberties abuses by the Administration since  9/11.

    All of this constitutes a public record of the constitutional abuses we have seen, and is designed to stand the test of time.  It comes on top of the hearings and Report I prepared on the electoral abuses in Ohio  which led to an unprecedented electoral college challenge in the House and the Senate.

    Now let me add, in many respects, this is just the tip of the iceberg of the policy failures of this Administration.  Over the last six years we have seen a record budget surplus turn into a record deficit; we face trade deficits as far as they eye can see and the near evisceration of our manufacturing base; we have a record number of individuals and families who do not have health insurance; we passed a disastrous Medicare sell out bill; we went through the debacle of Congress and the President politicizing the tragic Terry Schiavo case; Port Security is abysmal, the Homeland Security Department is a joke, and yesterday we learned that Bush knew very well that the levees in New Orleans could be breached even though he later said no one anticipated it.  These are all weighty, serious issues.  They present significant problems for our nation as well, however, they are not of the same constitutional magnitude as the other issues we're talking about today.

    There can be no doubt that today we are in a constitutional crisis that threatens the system of checks and balances that has preserved our fundamental freedoms for more than 200 years.  Just because the president's approval ratings is down to 34% and the vice president's approval is down to 18%, does not mean they cannot do severe, long term harm to our nation.  Our actions and tonight's forum are an important clarion call to anyone who is listening - that there is a constitutional line that even a president cannot cross without our people standing up and fighting for their democracy.

   

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  •  Kudos to you (4.00 / 8)

    Congressman Conyers, SIR ! It is such a good thing for our America that you toil so unflaggingly. I concur wholeheartedly that this administration has got to go....it is destroying our great nation. Keep up the good work.
    •  Would only all (4.00 / 3)

      Representatives and Senators take their service to the Constitution and to their constituents as seriously as you do, Congressman Conyers.  You have my deepest gratitude.

      Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

      by Simplify on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:45:34 AM PDT

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      •  You are a lone voice, but you are our voice (4.00 / 4)

        Where ARE the rest of OUR elected officials?  They need to unite on this grave crisis we all face.

        I've followed you and heartily supported you since the election fraud.  I applaud everything you do.  Many thanks from all of us.

        You are one of the greatest heroes of our times.

        Next time I tell you someone from Texas should NOT be president of the United States, please pay attention. In Memory of Molly Ivins, 1944-2007

        by truebeliever on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 12:34:04 PM PDT

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        •  You are one of the greatest heroes of our times. (4.00 / 2)

          Next time I tell you someone from Texas should NOT be president of the United States, please pay attention. In Memory of Molly Ivins, 1944-2007

          by truebeliever on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 12:34:50 PM PDT

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        •  Yes, where are they? (none / 0)

          I think Conyers is actually worth a plug nickel.  But when he is going to talk about the problems in his own party?  I remember a guy who did that once...
          •  Where they may be found, if we go to them (none / 0)

            Maybe the answer is in the state legislatures. We have been reading some diaries for a while now that a state's or territory's Senate can appeal to the House of Representatives to impeach. Even then, I suppose the House might choose to shelve it.  But, if multiple states are calling for impeachment, I don't think it could go ignored.
            Putting all the findings of these hearings and investigations Rep Conyers has listed above in front of the Governors as well as the state delegates may see results. Neither the Governors or the Delegates seem to be as under the spell as the Republicans in the Congress.
            Since it required the states to ratify the Constitution (and all amendments) such a move by multiple state legislatures couldn't be brushed aside by House Republicans.

            The Fink wants to be a King!

            by teresab on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 11:00:28 PM PDT

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            •  I guess it depends on how many (none / 0)

              ...state legislatures are controlled by Republicans or spineless Democrats and how many aren't.  I find myself wondering why we would expect Democratic state senators to behave any differently than Democratic US senators.
        •  Good question (none / 0)

          Last night while driving home, I heard Nancy Pelosi addressing reporters about various abuses and corruption.  One of the reporters mentioned the City of San Diego passing a resolution of impeachment for Bush and asked if she agreed. She first dodged the question, then when pressed, said, emphatically, "No!"

          What gives?

          •  That's easy (none / 0)

            What gives is that Pelousy is WORTHLESS, just like her buddy Reid.  Time to flush all the so-called "Democrats" OUT.  Neither Pelousy nor Coward Reid have 1% of the honesty, integrity, and loyalty to AMERICA that JC regularly shows.

            CONYERS/FEINGOLD in 2008!!

            The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes. --Thomas Paine

            by Citizen J on Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 09:09:41 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for all the great work John (4.00 / 10)

    this is my humble contribution to the cause:






    I totally agree Homeland security is a joke...a friend did computer work for them and was shocked at the naive incompetence

    •  and by incompetence I mean... (none / 1)

      putting a major computer software system in place WITHOUT testing it thoroughly first

      even the most inexperienced software people know you have to test new software...DUH!

    •  and mine: (4.00 / 7)

      Image Hosted by ImageShack.us i hope it works...

      "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

      by Cedwyn on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:31:22 AM PDT

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      •  very cool! (none / 1)

        when the weather gets better I want to paint some large "IMPEACH BUSH" murals on buildings in the DC/MD/VA area

        must be a lot of people willing to let me paint on their buildings by now!

        •  Got a Car? (none / 1)

          I'm so pissed I've taken a bar of soap and written IMPEACH! on my back window.

          I live in the same town as my CongressCritter (Van Hollen) and I'm hoping he'll see it.  He's one of the 30-something crowd in the party - a young turk - and it's inexcusable that he hasn't yet co-signed John's resolution calling for impeachment hearings (H. Res. 635 I think).

          Phone calls to Chris' office aren't enough - it's time to get in their face and plant the seed in others minds.  Maybe they'll do like-wise.  Or at least start calling Van Hollen's office too.

          •  Van Hollen (none / 1)

            has been supporting Rep Conyers for some time now. I often write him to thank him for signing most of Conyers letters. It was Van Hollen, Scott and Conyers that chaired the Dem hearings on wiretapping.

            That being said, I will (again) contact him to make sure he knows we want him to sign onto this resolution.

            The Place of Dead Roads
            "The City of Louisiana has dodged the bullet with Hurricane Corrina."

            by Dr Benway on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:34:32 AM PDT

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          •  Update (none / 1)

            according to http://www.impeachbush.tv/... Van Hollen has signed onto H.Res.635 "which calls for a Select Committee to investigate Bush's lies about Iraq, wiretapping, etc. and to make recommendations about whether there is sufficient evidence for impeachment."

            The Place of Dead Roads
            "The City of Louisiana has dodged the bullet with Hurricane Corrina."

            by Dr Benway on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:39:45 AM PDT

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            •  brain-fart (none / 0)

              ignore the previous comment...still looking...

              The Place of Dead Roads
              "The City of Louisiana has dodged the bullet with Hurricane Corrina."

              by Dr Benway on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:41:05 AM PDT

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            •  Unless This Link is Out of Date (none / 1)

              http://thomas.loc.gov/...

              Chris has yet to sign on as a co-sponsor.  Which gives me no end of stress and shame.  He's a great guy and has and will continue to learn a great deal by working with Chairman Conyers on the Judiciary Committee.

              It's time he grew a set and signed on to this important resolution.  They say the GOP took a hit during the next Congressional election cycle for impeaching Clinton, but come onnnnnnnnn!!!

              They went after the Big Dog over a stained dress.

              Bush has so much blood on his hands, has broken the laws as they relate to FISA, and has lied his ass off to the American public - repeatedly!

              I dare say the voters are now expecting our representatives to conduct hearings to investigate this stuff.

              Chris - if you or your staff are reading this thread I beg of you - please sponsor H. Res. 635.  It's time to step up and be counted.  Make us proud!

            •  Van Hollen (none / 1)

              I just rang Van Hollen's Office and was told that he has not yet signed on as a co-sponsor.

              I would urge everyone to contact their CongressCritter today - ask to speak to the Legislative Aide responsible for Judiciary issues - and (if applicable) ask them why their boss hasn't yet signed on to this resolution.  It's currently got 26 co-sponsors.  We need more.

              The number for the Capital Switchboard is

              202-224-3121

              Call now - call every day.  It's time we made some serious noise.

        •  oooh! murals! (none / 0)

          now that's some thinkin'!  mine is made of fabric - it just hangs off my front porch.  did you see the bit about asphalt activism?    

          "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

          by Cedwyn on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:20:06 AM PDT

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          •  very cool..except (none / 0)

            glass is NOT a liquid...that's an old wive's tale

            old window glass is thicker at the bottom because of how they made it....if glass was "liquid" old optics would be worthless...yadda yadda

            anyway...VERY cool about the asphalt thingy...glad u posted it!

            •  Glass is not a liquid, ... (none / 0)

               ... in spite of the fact that my HS science teacher taught us that it was. Of course, it really depends on how you define "glass" and "liquid".  The taxonomic lines we project so sharply into the world are often fuzzy the closer we examine that world.

              The "lens" bit doesn't prove the point.

              Sometimes people say that good evidence that glass does not flow is provided by telescope lenses which after 150 years still maintain excellent optical qualities.  They would be spoiled by the slightest deformation.  In fact, optical glass is usually not the same as the glass used in windows and bottles.  It may be based on boro-silicate or soda-lime glass with other metallic oxides added to improve its thermal and optical properties.  So old telescope lenses and mirrors provide good evidence that some glasses do not flow, but little evidence to support the claim that glass in old windows has not flowed.  

              Two war crimes make 'the right', not 'a right'. Defeat the liar John McCain.

              by Yellow Canary on Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 07:13:28 AM PDT

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          •  fabric is great... (4.00 / 2)

            One thing I want to try is those HUGE sheets of black plastic you get at hardware stores...

            it comes in sizes like 20 x 25 feet or similar

            I want to see if spray paint sticks to it..I was thinking make a nice big "IMPEACH BUSH" thing...and then set it on the grass in the park by National airport while a few Kossacks have a picnic on a nice spring day....when planes land from the North....passengers can EASILY read a big sign

            ya know "WELCOME TO WASHINGTON - IMPEACH BUSH"

            •  Greener-catapault BS back+night light+signs (4.00 / 7)

              Go with a guerilla/green approach.

              Write the letters into the large lawns with a nice organic fertilizer using a fast hand crank spredder.  Be careful not to overfertilize and burn the lawn causing damage that won't recover for a long time.  We want all blight removed.

              Seeding with pretty, fast growing, wild flowers, in requisite letter shapes (using varieties appropriate to one's native area please) is another world beautification option.  

              The use of R/C craft or robotics might be options in carrying out the above.

              See if area farmers would mind having displays on propery visable to interstates and busy highways.

              Can someone figure out what it would take to project against low clouds at night, using search lights, like the Batman Signal, IMPEACH?  Red, white and blue lights sweeping the sky and leading back to IMPEACH would be perfect.  I'd contribute toward that.

              Lots of large beach balls with IMPEACH imprinted on them released around a crowded swimming and recreation areas are could be fun.  Could be room on a bigger ball for the list of crimes, the text of Articles of Impeachment...so educational!  I'd contribute toward this as well.  

              Burma Shave style signs?
              Approaching interstate rest areas?

              SICKENED BY THE SPYING?
              SICKENED BY THE LYING?
              SICKENED BY THE PROPOGANDA?
              SICKENED BY THE BETRAYING?
              SICKENED BY THE TORTURING?
              SICKENED BY THE SECRET LAWS?
              SICKENED BY THE NEEDLESS DYING?
              SICKENED BY THE CRONYISM?
              SICKENED BY THE GLOBALISM?
              SICKENED BY THE GIVEAWAYS?
              SICKENED BY THE CORRUPTION?
              SICKENED BY THE NO-BID DEALS?
              SICKENED BY THE CRIME & GRAFT?
              SICKENED BY ECOLOGICAL HAVOC?
              SICKENED BY GROWING $8 TRILLION DEBT?
              CURE AMERICA'S DISEASES!
              IMPEACH BUSH!
              IMPEACH CHENEY!
              ARREST ROVE & GUILTY STAFF!
              THROW THE CORRUPTED BUMS OUT!

              When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

              by antirove on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 11:02:45 AM PDT

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              •  awesome idea (none / 0)

                i love the idea of impeach written by a spotlight in the clouds. brilliant.
              •  My dream is laser display on Wash Monument (none / 1)

                can you imagine "IMPEACH BUSH" written on the Washington Monument at night

                might be a bit hard to get a permit...especially with the concerns of even low power lasers on the vision of pilots

                someone mentioned "lawn paint" of some kind...used for athletic fields

                when we had snow in Washington a while ago I noticed many slopes near busy roads that were just BEGGING to have "IMPEACH" written on them

                Also...I want to do a few aerial projects...I've been casually researching towed aerial banners...and it's not THAT expensive..a few hundred to a few thousand dollars....and can you imagine the impacts of a plane flying by a major sporting event towing a message like "IMPEACH BUSH" ??.....the press might very well point a camera up to show it

                •  heh... (none / 0)

                  a little longer term, but what the hay:

                  if you deprive a patch of grass of sunlight, the grass will die.  i've seen tons of people do that when starting a garden.  so, you blackout the word "impeach" on, say, your lawn, the high school football field, etc.

                  : p

                  "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

                  by Cedwyn on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:30:22 PM PDT

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              •  antirove..... (none / 0)

                The Burma Shave signs format would be GREAT.

                There would be some visual problems with all that has to be said, but I'm sure there are creative artistic minds around to design signs that are brief, serially connected and visually effective.

                I wonder if using the Burma Shave format would be encroaching on a copyright????

  •  Thank you (4.00 / 3)

    for standing up for real American values.  And another thank you for your support of Chuck Pennacchio.

    Pennacchio for Pennsylvania

    by PAprogressive on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:21:11 AM PDT

  •  Please keep fighting Mr. Conyers (4.00 / 4)

    I don't know if I can get there tonight (especially in light of the weather), but I'll be following the event as I have the many other efforts you've undertaken on behalf of the American people.

    Thank you so much for all you continue to do for us.

    Make a difference today. Who better than you?

    by sidinny on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:22:00 AM PDT

  •  keep on doing what you are doing (4.00 / 2)

    i applaud your actions and the reasons you give for taking them. i hope this meeting gets a few minutes of air time other than c-span.
  •  Thanks (4.00 / 4)

    Thanks for the inspiration, sir.
  •  oh oh i know...... (4.00 / 5)

    i know why YOU act Sir

    you act because you were tasked, when taking office, to protect and defend the constitution and WE the People and you didnt think that task was merely an obselete suggestion....

    oh and because your ethics and your morals are not manufactured for you in the PR offices of the Rendon and lincoln groups.....

    right???

    ok what do I win??  hopefully i win my rea; representative democracy back  :) can i collect my prize now or do i have to wait until november

    The CONSTITUTION is MY Flag pin

    by KnotIookin on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:23:02 AM PDT

  •  Thank You (4.00 / 10)

    Sir, thank you for being a stalwart defender of the ideals and principles of this nation.  I only ask two things:

    1.) Keep it up.
    2.) Remember that a principled case may not win the battle in the next year or two, but in the great long run of history it will be regarded as a noble stand for democracy and accountability.

    You're one of the greats, Chairman.  We've got your back.

    One more Justice and John McCain gets his wish.

    by JR on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:23:15 AM PDT

  •  What would the Father's Do (4.00 / 5)

    I can not help but reflect daily that the "Fathers of the Constitution/Nation" would be holding their heads in shame at what has become of the Country they had fought to build.

    i truly am disturbed at the course of events that this country has been on over the past several years.

    i sincerely hope that You are successful in trying to bring this country back from the brink of a failing empire to a democratic republic.

    even if not successful, thank you for at least trying

  •  "we are in a constitutional crisis" (4.00 / 8)

    How right you are.

    I only hope we can hold on until 11/06.

    Thank you, as always, for your tireless work on behalf of our Constitution.

  •  I so wish I could be there tonight (4.00 / 7)

    I just finished reading the Lapham article and while it didn't tell me anything I didn't already know (being the regular dKos reader that I am), I appreciated its sense of urgency as well as exasperation.  

    Congressman Conyers, you are surely the example we should all be following.  It is difficult to understand how you maintain your patience and persistence over these years.  I can't thank you enough for your efforts on our behalf.

  •  With the exception of yourself (none / 0)

    ..and a very few others in DC, they all need to be impeached, recalled or hung.

    Speaking for the vast, unrepresented, moderate dems and moderate common sense Americans of both parties you can burn Washington to the ground and plow it under for all we care. We need to go back to square one and start over.

    Hypocrisy in anything may deceive the cleverest and most penetrating man, but the least wide-awake of children recognizes it....

    by Cal45 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:29:30 AM PDT

  •  WOW how cool!!!! (4.00 / 5)

    You are such a breath of fresh air! - A politician who actually works for the general good! - Keep on keeping on  !! "Speaking truth to Power!  You are doing a great job!!

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

    "Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde

    by bloomster on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:29:52 AM PDT

  •  Congressman... (4.00 / 14)

    It is so helpful to me to know that you are there.

    It gets really dark down here sometimes, and it seems all we've got is matches to light our way--no candles, lamps, torches--nothing to make a steady light. So somebody strikes a match and we move forward two steps and the thing goes out. And somebody else fumbles in the dark to find another match, and lights it. And we move a couple of steps more. And that's pretty much how we move forward. An inch at a time.

    Every time someone like you stands up, we move into the light for a few minutes. The relief is something I can't begin to describe.

    If only more of your colleagues were willing to do the same for us.

    I avow and affirm that I will protect and defend the sovereignty of the colonies with every fiber of my being.

    by Nobby on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:32:17 AM PDT

  •  Wish I could be there (4.00 / 2)

    Thank you Congressman Conyers, you have really inspired me to become more active in the political process.
  •  Go Get 'em Mr. Chairman (none / 0)

    We've got your back.  I look forward to listening in vai Air America here in DC.  Peace.
  •  So Important to Keep Going (4.00 / 2)

    It's just so important to keep going. This administration, as mentioned so many times before, hopes to pass along so many things above and below the radar that the people will simply become exhausted from protest and will acquiesce. Just as they press forward, we must press forward. Resistance is an active, forward motion, not a passive pose.

    "Truck Stop Women," a New Film By Phil Gramm and John McCain.

    by bink on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:35:12 AM PDT

  •  Dear Rep Conyers (4.00 / 6)

    I am afraid our President is sick in the head.

    Watching his performance recently regarding Katrina it is clear he is beyond help. We neeed someone directing this country who is serious about it.

    The case for impeachment has been there for quite some time.

    Perhaps the country is just waking up to the idea. No one wants to believe their leader is a juvenile.

    People are tiring of the pundit vaccuum, the lies, the programs, the war and they are realizing a future charted by this administration is bleak.

    Don't just impeach him.

    Put their whole cause on trial. Put the mirror up to Medusa's face.

    The prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad; For the multitude of thy iniquity, and the great hatred...

    by Tirge Caps on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:39:52 AM PDT

    •  I totally agree with the realization that (none / 0)

      Mr. Bush is indeed disturbed, this man is our biggest threat.  Thank Congressman Conyers for your dedicated work and support.  The American People need to make a stand on all illegal crimes that have happened in the past five years.  Five years, they have dismantled everything that true Patriots believe what this country should stand for.  They have no respect for this country or for anyone.  This is not America.  
    •  Psychopaths and Evil as a disease (4.00 / 2)

      Robert Hare, Ph.D - the leading expert on the Psychopathic Personality gives these Characteristics of a Psychopath:
      1.superficial charm
      2.self-centered; self-important
      3.need for stimulation; prone to boredom
      4.deceptive behavior; lying
      5.conning; manipulative
      6.little remorse or guilt
      7.shallow emotional response
      8.callous with a lack of empathy
      9.living off others or predatory attitude
      10.poor self-control
      11.promiscuous sexual behavior
      12.early behavioral problems
      13.lack of realistic long term goals
      14.impulsive lifestyle
      15.irresponsible behavior
      16.blaming others for their actions
      17.short term relationships
      18.juvenile delinquency
      19.breaking parole or probation
      20.varied criminal activity
      The only points on which Bush does not score are 11, 17 and 19

      So now I have suggested that Bush is a psychopath, let me elaborate.  Being a psychopath Bush does not know feelings of remorse or shame.  This allows him to 'just stay the course' as if nothing happened, seemingly detached, truely unbothered.  Psychopaths can spot other psychopaths and Bush surrounded himself with them.  Of course Cheney, Condi, Rumsfelt (and also somebody like PNAC-man Bill Kristol) come to mind.  Picked by and put in power by the PNAC&military-industrial-complex in 2000 BushCo immediately organized and executed 911 to start their march for world domination.  Remember these people are psychopaths: it is possible for them to only see that glorious march for world domination no matter the consequences to the rest of us. Through their Muslim-fear-mongering they are deliberately injecting society with evil, knowing that evil is addictive and will spread as a disease.  Communism and fascism established itself in such a way.  I am very afraid they will have no problem getting us into a global nuclear war, they may just delight at the prospect, they may be hungry for the exitement.

      -9.00,-7.79 At least I know Physics!

      by fourtytwo on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:56:51 AM PDT

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      •  I just got this sick image (none / 0)

        of Bush standing the helm on a huge boat powering through a sea of dead bodies.

        Staying the course.

        The prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad; For the multitude of thy iniquity, and the great hatred...

        by Tirge Caps on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 11:13:56 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  this is making me (none / 0)

      very sad, where is the president? i need to be comforted.
      •  try the senate floor (none / 0)

        or talk to the liberty coalition--I hear Bob Barr has worked with a president recently.

        I avow and affirm that I will protect and defend the sovereignty of the colonies with every fiber of my being.

        by Nobby on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 02:48:20 PM PDT

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  •  Rep. Conyers, (4.00 / 5)

    Thanks for posting here yet again and keeping us informed. I hope that you and your staff are aware of the state legislature-based moves for impeachment that are described in another diary at the moment. I encourage you to work together with state reps in MA, VT, RI, and, hopefully, CT. as well to get the impeachment ball rolling and put it front and center in the public eye where it belongs.

    Thanks again and God bless!

    Al Qeada is a faith-based initiative.

    by drewfromct on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:40:22 AM PDT

    •  State Initiatives (4.00 / 4)

      Thanks, Drew, for bringing up the subject of state and municipal efforts to weigh in on this issue.  There have been plenty of instances in which state and local governments have clearly stated their position on presidential misconduct and their actions help to further raise the profile of our efforts.
  •  Thank heaven such a fighter is on our side-- (4.00 / 2)

    You are a hero, Sir.  

    I just got back from the Michigan Public Radio website where I was looking for a segment I heard this morning that said that former aides of yours claim that you had them babysit your children and work as servants in your house!?!!??  Where in the heck is this coming from? A new smear campaign?  I couldn't find the segment -- it was in the Michigan news on 104.1 between 6:30 and 7:30 this morning.

    In order to hide their embezzlement behind a posse of demented hicks, Republicans' slogans must be short and superstitious. Grand Moff Texan

    by station wagon on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:41:03 AM PDT

    •  I read that (4.00 / 2)

      this morning also, and felt it probably a smear campaign for his efforts to censure Bushco.  I'd like him to clarify, however.
      •  Of course it is (none / 0)

        JC has been the BIGGEST thorn in the Bu$hCo misadventure, bar none.  I'm surprised that it took THIS long, actually.  But, let's summarize these "charges", shall we? (credit to OD1 at Conyersblog)

        DeLay indicted for money laundering.

        Conyers accused of having a staffer babysit 2 kids.

        Duke Cunningham takes $2 M in bribes, is convicted and awating sentencing.

        Conyers is accused with not paying a staffer's gas money to get to a campaign event.

        DeLay attempts to bribe a member $100,000 in exchange for a vote. Is unbraided by the ethics committee.

        Conyers is accused of having a staffer who did illegal activity, was charged and convicted and received jail time.

        DeLay misused the FAA, and was unbraided by the Ethics Committee.

        Conyers is accused of helping his wife win a political office. This allegation was from 2002. Why did the woman who is making the charge wait until 2006?

        John Boehner passes out Tobacco checks on the House floor just before a vote on a tobacco issue.

        Conyers is accused of having a staffer do legal work for a private client in her office at the congressional office building.

        Rooks accuses her boss of telling her what he wanted done, and my goodness, you had to do what the boss asked for. Wow! How onerous!

        What a bunch of CRAP.  This is ALL they could come up with?  Turdblossom is slipping- must be feeling that phantom cuff pressure and imagining the long frogmarch out of the WH.

        The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes. --Thomas Paine

        by Citizen J on Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 09:28:47 AM PDT

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  •  John Conyers you are a hero (4.00 / 2)

    Thanks.

    And thanks for standing up for our health care.

    And for so many other things.

    Tiggers love John Conyers.

  •  Mr. Conyers, may I request... (4.00 / 2)

    ...that you join your collegues Maurice Hinchey, Bernie Sanders, and others in the Future of American Media caucus.

    The dominance of megalithic, corporate media conglemerates is the real problem in this country (world?). If we can fix that, all the other problems will at least be able to be approached.

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    by KingOneEye on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:42:42 AM PDT

  •  Bravo!! (none / 1)

    You're the real deal, John.

    Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past. George Orwell

    by moon in the house of moe on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:45:28 AM PDT

  •  Congressman Conyers is a... (4.00 / 3)

    ...national treasure.

    I would be most interested in hearing his opinion on the current effort to get state legislatures to pass articles of impeachment and submitting them to Congress to bypass the Republican leadership's refusal to exercise its Constitutional duty to oversee and investigate the executive branch.

    "It's just like the 60's, only with less hope." -Justin Bond in the film "Shortbus" (-6.38/ -4.21)

    by wonkydonkey on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 09:46:43 AM PDT

  •  you (4.00 / 2)

    you sir are a true treasure among the trash dump that is our current government.
  •  You are awesome, Rep Conyers. (4.00 / 3)

    I'll be listening.  I have that Harper's here in front of me.

    Thanks for all the work you've done.  & thanks for keeping up the fight.  We need more like you.

  •  Since... (none / 1)

    all the illegal, underhanded, immoral things that BushCo have done have not been enough to get this weak and whiney group of politicians in the House and Senate off their asses to IMPEACH, then will someone

    PLEASE

    Give "W" a goddamn BLOWJOB so that Congress can start proceedings...

    Enough on all the 'is there enough'...

  •  Mr. Conyers (4.00 / 2)

    I wish I could vote for you! I am in a "red state" at this time.

    I heard on NPR's "to the Point" that Dems were afraid to impeach because when the GOP impeached Pres. Clinton, it hurt them in the next election. This time it is different. Bush has killed people based on lies; this is more serious than having a taste for the occassional floozy. And Bush's polling at 33% approval. Clinton was about twice that when he was impeached, if I recall correctly.

    Keep after the "black box voting" issue, too. I vote and will continue to vote, but I really believe it goes into a black box and comes out saying "George Bush" on the other side.

  •  I wish that (none / 1)

    Love ya john...You have courage.I wish that would rub off on the others in congress...You must be doing something right because pugs are trying to bring you down...Thank you john, from all of us..
  •  Keep up the pressure (4.00 / 3)

    Thanks, Congressman, for all your work.

    Keep up the pressure.

    You'll notice that the dike is beginning burst, and more evidence -- the hardcore stuff that has been needed and blocked under the auspices of "national security" and "classification" -- is coming forth.

    I expect two more pertinent, devastating leaks to occur within the next two weeks that will make it incumbent upon all members of Congress to yank this Administration (damn near the whole thing, requiring a special election and all) as well as result in the filing of collusion and obstruction charges against several high-ranking majority party Congressional members in the next few weeks.

    Here's hopin' that the impact doesn't result in a panic-borne action by the "Emperor" and his goodfella companions...

    Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
      Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
    Tempest even in reason's seat.

    by GreyHawk on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:21:11 AM PDT

    •  Good to see... (none / 0)

      ... a ConyersBlog alum here Grey Hawk.
      •  Thanks, Congressman. :) (none / 0)

        ...tho I still can't logon there, your admin is working on it -- hopefully, I'll be back posting there again soon.

        Things are heating up for the GOP and the Neoconservatives, thanks in no small way to your efforts.  

        You're a credit to the US Government that I learned to love when I studied it and our revolutionary history in school.

        Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
          Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
        Tempest even in reason's seat.

        by GreyHawk on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 03:08:38 PM PDT

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  •  good on ya, sir! (none / 1)

    you are the bestest!

    "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

    by Cedwyn on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:22:47 AM PDT

  •  Great (4.00 / 2)

    I think you are doing all you can do.  You are laying out the facts, putting them in the public record and using whatever voice you have to spread the word.  There's not much more we can ask from an elected official in the minority party.
  •  does this awesome diary mean... (none / 0)

    ...that we never have to see any more of those tiresome "politicians post here but aren't really contributing to the site" meta diaries? I think addressing the "nothing we do changes anything" downer mentality is a pretty darn big contribution! (not to mention addressing IMPEACHMENT...)

    The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, and inhibit clarity. --Calvin & Hobbes

    by reid fan on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:25:19 AM PDT

  •  kudos Representative Conyers (none / 0)

    I wish there were more members of Congress on the panel with you.  I've followed you closely through these last years, and I admire you tremendously.  Lapham's article should be a bombshell to those who are still in denial.
  •  Thank you, Congressman Conyers, (none / 1)

    for all that you do.  You are one of too few patriots left in Congress.  My geographical congressperson is John Culberson, but he doesn't represent me.  I consider you my REAL congressional representative.

    Thanks also for the heads-up on the broadcast.  I'll be trying to listen over the net.

  •  Dear John please let me know your thoughts on this (4.00 / 4)

    Please explain what happens after we impeach Bush. Assuming Cheney hasn't been fired by then, is it necessary to go one by one or can we impeach in a block:

    The Vice President Richard Cheney
    Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
    President pro tempore of the Senate Ted Stevens
    Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
    Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
    Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
    Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
    Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton

    If the sucession continues

    Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns
    Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez
    Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
    Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt
    Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
    Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
    Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman
    Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
    Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
    Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff
    ???

    Are these really the people we want running the country or can we just tar and feather the whole crowd with the same brush?

    Assuming we can get this done expeditiously, how do we then get rid of the rest of the legacy, Bolton, Negroponte, Wolfowitz, Goss, Hayden, and all their assistants and staff?

    Aren't we going to be stuck with people continuing the kidnapping, torture, murder, holding without habeas, warrantless surveillance, selling off of our wilderness, and our ports, and not providing for the safety of our levees and farmers, and environment, and health and human services, and labor and veterans and thinking of nukes as alternative energy sources and deregulating commerce?

    How can we get back the money that has been wasted on Halliburton and surplus profits for oil companies. How do we get rid of the Patriot Act and the packed supreme court???

    Can we pass a bill to include Republicans in our definition of terrorist on grounds of their treasonous acts against the constitution and make it a criminal offense to aid or abet them???

    It seems like it would be a lot simpler, now that we are no longer a nation of laws, to just do this the old fashioned way and have a military coup and a purge or two?

    Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Impeach, Incarcerate

    by rktect on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:43:20 AM PDT

  •  i read the basement brief minutes (4.00 / 2)

    get them here

    pour a glass o' wine. read which reps and  which witnesses immediately volunteered to furnish the case for impeachment.,

    not one JUDICIARY COMMITTEE senator attended or subsequently authorized a "legit" hearing on the merits. notably big-mouths  Specter (R, UT), Dewine (R, OH), Grassley (R, IA), Sessions (R, AL), Graham (R, SC), Leahy (D, MA), Kennedy (D, ), Biden (D, DE), Feinstein (D, CA), Weingold (D, WI), Schumer (D, NY)

    what's a voter to do?
    bag your rep and force the issue, of course.

    Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

    by MarketTrustee on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:46:05 AM PDT

  •  kEEP ON kEEPIN oN! (none / 0)

    MR CONYERS YOU ARE NOT A "FAIR WEAHTER PATRIOT" BUT A TRUE STEADFAST BELEIVER IN THE PEOPLE OF THE USA AND THE CONSTITITION FOR WHICH IT STANDS!
    PEACE,
    MICHEAL ALLISON

    "AMERICA DID NOT INVENT HUMAN RIGHTS, HUMAN RIGHTS INVENTED AMERICA"

    by michealallison on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:59:03 AM PDT

  •  Congressman Conyers.... (none / 0)

    I continue to be most grateful and encouraged (when I am feeling most discouraged) by your persistent assertion of what is right for our country despite the current regressive trend towards political and spiritual entropy.  And you are absolutely right--the only option open to honorable Americans in such a situation is to continue to slog uphill against those forces, regardless of political calculus and the odds of "winning"--or not.  A recent conversation on stopover in the Pittsburgh airport comes to mind--speaking with someone from a country in Africa which is currently in the grip of regressive forces, and conversation turned to US politics. I said something about the shameful deterioration of our democratic ideals and practices here in the United States--he paused, looked at me and said, "Yes, well, then all we can do in such situations is to be ourselves."  

    ...the White House will be adorned by a downright moron...H.L. Mencken

    by bibble on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 11:03:29 AM PDT

  •  I Was Beginning to Despair (none / 0)

    ... but I'm very pleased by your thoughts and your behaviour. Logic and reason, and ethics and democracy may prevail in our country after all. Maybe 200 years of history will not be meaningless.

    Thank you.

    The Fish Stinks from the Head Down - Impeach Bush!

  •  Just remember.... (none / 0)

    ...IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST.

    (However, judging from the drag he is on Bush, he may well resign before he's impeached.)

    John McCain will end Roe v. Wade if he's president.

    by Phoenix Woman on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 11:12:19 AM PDT

  •  400 more (none / 1)

    We need about 400 more in the house like you Rep. Conyers. Unfortunately we don't even have 200. What can be done to at least get more of your Democratic collegues to join you? Why are the Democrats as a group so damned terrified of confronting this president?
  •  bust them for this (4.00 / 2)

    Evidently this Al Martin article is archived on his own website, but I will paste information below on how Cheney/Bush sold off our nation's platinum/palladium supply to the Russians... without Congressional approval, per law.

    They are selling off our precious metals and strategic reserves as well as our ports.

    Bust them, bust them, bust them.


    From this source:
    The Bush-Cheney Regime has passed a series of discreet laws regarding the mining industry. These laws have acted to discourage platinum production in the United States. It's often forgotten that the United States, although not a large platinum producer, accounts for about 10% of the world's platinum production. To further aid this conspiracy, last year the Bush Cheney Regime unlawfully allowed a Russian company Norilsk secretly controlled by the Russian government to purchase Stillwater Mining which is the largest platinum producer in the United States. In fact it mines 90% of all US platinum. Stillwater is headquartered in Denver and its primary mining operations are in Montana. The company does both hard rock and leach platinum mining.

    After they bought it, the Russians closed down Stillwater mining operations, using the lie that the market was over saturated with platinum. The Russian government had been withholding the metal in order to force up prices.

    It should be once again noted that the purchase of Stillwater Mining by the Russian government (granted, it was through a supposedly private company, but the Russian government was behind it) is unlawful in that platinum is classified as a strategic metal.

    It is against the law for a Russian firm, controlled by the Russian government, to purchase any mining company in the United States which produces any strategic metal or mineral. "Strategic" in this case means that besides any precious metal value it has and its normal industrial value, it is a metal which is needed to build certain weapons systems, principally strategic weapons systems.

    So what is the purpose of this conspiracy? Why is the Bush Cheney Regime interested in helping Russia dramatically increase the price of one of its prime exports?

    It is simply to help the Russian government t earn as much revenue as possible to aid the Russian government in its re-arming - to make Russia once again a strategic threat to the United States in order to justify Bush-Cheney Regimes intentions (as can be seen on their PNAC website) of constructing a new American military empire in the 21st century. By recreating enemies of the past. By redividing the world behind "Curtains" both "Iron" and "Bamboo," in order to justify a second enormous military build-up a la 1984-1987.

    The US military build-up ultimately has to be justified, and you can't justify doubled defense expenditures on "terrorism."

    This is especially so, when $200 billion a year is being spent to build strategic weapons system which have no value in any war against "terrorism."

    The reasons why this instance stands out is that the Bush-Cheney Regime late last year 2003 had expressed "concerns" over Russia's continuing development of their TOPOL-M strategic missile system, which is supposedly the most advanced such system ever developed.

    According to the Bush-Cheney Regime, it is a decade ahead of our own MX missile program. They said that they didn't expect it to be built until 2010, due to the shortage of hard currency. The Russians announced over the weekend that they had completed the development and had begin to deploy the TOPOL-M missile system that the Bush Cheney Regime was "so concerned" about. They said that they had been able to accelerate and complete the program due to increases in the price of platinum and the explosion in export revenue they had earned from that price increase.

    Then the Bush-Cheney Regime comes out with an announcement expressing extreme surprise, shock and concern, adding that we will now have to spend an additional $58 billion of the American taxpayers' money to accelerate the development of the ABM missile program. This puts the whole conspiracy into a different light. Of that $58 billion, most of it will go to the Rockwell consortium. In fact, the chairman of Rockwell said on CNBC that in 2004 Rockwell will be increasing its contribution to the Republican Party by $30 million. And that's the nuts and bolts of the conspiracy.

    (Meanwhile the thousands of employees of Stillwater Mining who were laid off and who were picketing, trying to bring to the attention of the press that the Stillwater sale to Norilsk was illegal -- and not one mainstream media outlet in the United States would cover their demonstration. These employees should sue the US government for the loss of their jobs in that the sale of this company was illegal. The Russian government did not even apply for the necessary waivers in order to get out of the strategic metals and minerals ban. The laid off employees have a cause of action against the United States government.)

    The Bush Cheney Regime is thus deliberately increasing the cost to American consumers in order to help the rearming of Russia and China. People are aware of how this is being done with China. In fact, only six weeks after coming into office, the Bush Cheney Regime granted China Most Favored Nation trade status. This is something the Clinton administration refused to do. Then they also reversed the Clinton position and supported the entrance of China into the World Trade Organization (WTO), without requiring the Chinese to meet WTO or BIS (Bank of International Settlement) mandates, in terms of making the Chinese Yuan convertible.

    This debate goes on every day about how the Bush administration gets pressured even from its own supporters in business and industry, who are always hammering on the Bush Regime to exert pressure on China to make the Yuan free to trade. This is