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Until now I have not had anyone close to me in the military so I have adopted Soonergrunt as my soldier to keep an eye on. I am so sorry about the call up.
Well, it looks like that is about to change. It appears that my granddaughter may have been talked into enlisting. She is lesbian and that does not matter, except that is how they got to her.
What does matter is that she has severe ADD and is severely bi-polar. If she doesn't take her meds - and she needs daily reminding - she can be uncontrollable. How can the military ignore her medical history including hospitalizations and take this 18 year old ill child and think she can successfully adapt to the military.

If they somehow manage to get her through training [and I pray not] she will never survive a place like Iraq. I worry even more that she would get some of her fellow soldiers killed.
How can something like this enlistment be allowed to happen? Are our children, no matter how sick, just cannon fodder, so who cares?
Today I started to die a little. Would that an old lady could take the place of a young, ill child, I would gladly do it.
God. Damn. You. George. Bush.

Originally posted to Overseas on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 12:21 PM PST.

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  •  That's crazy. She passed a physical (5+ / 0-)

    in which the doctor was aware she has two severe mental-health related disorders? How? If the army takes her, they're responsible for all treatment and medications that she may require from that point on. Hell, if I ever get diabetes or cancer (God forbid), I'll wander down and enlist. Their medical care's got to be better than my high-deductible policy.

  •  Tragedy (3+ / 0-)
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    sockpuppet, Overseas, willb48

    That the entirety of the last 6 years is one long recurring tragedy is unbelievable.  How long ago did Fahrenheit 911 come out?  Sorry to hear about your granddaughter.

    We're all just monkeys burning in hell.

    by smokeymonkey on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 12:27:33 PM PST

  •  I doubt that she will be allowed to enlist... (1+ / 0-)
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    once she has her first physical.  She will be required to list her conditions and meds. If they are as bad as you say, she will most likely be deemed unfit for service.  

    A warning though...Please advise your granddaughter to fully acknowledge and list her ADD, bi-polar, and any meds she currently takes.  If she does not, and then later has an episode during training, she could face severe disciplinary action for lying on her enlistment forms.

    Good luck to you and your granddaughter.

    •  When you have dealt with someone (5+ / 0-)

      with bi-polar disease, you will rapidly learn that they do not ever acknowledge that there is something wrong with them. They do not think they need medication. They would never think ahead of the consequences of not explaining their medical history, particularly when they think they want to be in the military. It is a horrendous problem. Mental illness is not easy on anyone.

      It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds - Samuel Adams

      by Overseas on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 12:42:20 PM PST

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      •  You are correct about the denial (2+ / 0-)
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         In fact many with bi-polar don't want to take their medication -- they miss the manic (highs).

         I suspect that the basic training will cause a crisis --

         It seems like several years ago ER (tv show) had an episode where the brother of one of the lead characters enlisted and he was bi-polar. Sally Fields played the role of the mother (and Fields was also bi-polar).

         Not that many tv programs deal with mental health issues -- so I though ER did a reasonably good job of educating about mental health issues -- and the generational issues of dealing with both a parent and a brother who suffered from the same condtion.

         Also -- there is an true story about a woman who enlisted and had an extreme depressive episode. This happened sometime in the last 5 years -- and the woman was a reporter -- or perhaps just a writer. There could be a support group for individuals who joined up -- trying to become normal (or whatever there reason are/were for joining).

         Good luck to your grand-daughter -- she's going to need it.

  •  Children were sent to fight the crusades!!! (3+ / 0-)
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    Overseas, slksfca, willb48

    Bush's thinking has not evolved much from that middle ages thought process.  I hope your granddaughter will be safe.  I refer you to the the regular poster here at Dkos: Pastordan for comfort and magnified prayers.  They have been great comfort to me and my family.

    My nephew comes home in 10 weeks.

    Never Give Up On Peace!!!

    by Gator on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 12:32:49 PM PST

  •  Read this RadarOnline series of (1+ / 0-)
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    transcriptions of hyped phone calls to recruiters to see how desperate they are. The second caller pretends to have several medical conditions that would obviously make one unsuited for service, but this doesn't stop the recruiter.

    •  The sad part is... (1+ / 0-)
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      recruiters don't care about someone's medical history. Their main concern is just getting someone to sign the papers and join up.  What happens to them after that is the military doctor's problem.

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