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Hello all, your traditional constitutional libertarian Democratic-Republican (Jeffersonian) speaking. What I'm presenting today is a tactic which I believe many of you will consider self-serving, on the otherhand, there are clear benefits to what I'm suggesting for setting up for the outright destruction of the modern Republican Party... In other words, cleaning the Neo-cons out of the power structure of politics.

First, I want to state that I voted for Democrats in both the Senatorial and Congressional elections for my state and district, Sherrod Brown being the Senator in that equation, and I will continue to vote for these people until we have a non-neocon (even better anti-neocon) president in office.

There is a very clear weakness in the modern Republican party between the neocon/social communists and traditional constitutional conservatives. My suggestion will likely be dismissed, but played correctly could very well destroy the state of play in Republican politics, which is good for all of us!

My suggestion is simple, but will require cash. My suggestion? Contribute to Ron Paul's campaign. He is the sole anti-war Republican in the primary. The reasoning is quite simple. We know Ron Paul can't win this primary, but we also know that in the general election, no neocon Republican (the other 9 candidates in this case) will win the election.

My belief is that we can exploit this weakness to each others advantage. What do I have to gain from this? The destruction of the republican neocon party, hopefully followed by the building of the republican liberty party. What do you have to gain? The assured destruction of the modern Republican Party for at least a few election cycles. This destruction is happening anyways, but the speed can be increased with the tactic I'm explaining today.

Basically? Media follows wherever fundraising dollars land in this primary. My belief is that if Ron Paul posts huge gains following these debate performances, the media will be forced to take note, because it will put a lie to the popular idea that Ron Paul is only winning online debate polls because he has a dedicated and vocal internet constituency (which is in fact the only reason he is winning such polls). If the money backs up the polls, the mainstream media will have to take it in the face, and will likely be forced to cover Ron Paul.

So, my ridiculous suggestion is for us to raise enough money in small donations to put Paul on the map in this contest. Even though I think it unlikely, what I want is for Paul to come in second for the Republican Primary nomination. This will take some hardcore fixing, though hopefully some will find the value in it.

Now, in my opinion, the Democratic Party is quite strong and very unified at this point in time. The Republicans, however, are quite weak. I believe we will know the Democratic nominee before the first primary is held.

So what i also suggest is for those who know their vote won't be counted in their state to register Republican (if you have to for selecting for another parties candidate in a primary), and then vote for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary.

Now, keep in mind that I don't want Ron Paul to win, which is whaat makes this whole idea have any plausibility whatsoever (because he won't win). I only want him to come in second place.

The reason for this is simple. Once whichever neocon actually wins the nomination, he will lose to the Democratic nominee (I don't think any neocon will have a chance in hell this year). That lost will and should be hung on the mantle of the neocons, in order to destroy their current power within the party publicly. Ron Paul in second (especially in New Hampshire) Would show that an alternative was viable, but was set aside, hopefully giving a chance for liberty and constitutional Republicanism within the Republican Party's platform again.

Of course, I know plenty of you will see an alterior motive in this, but if can't see the spokes of the Republican Party's bicycle, how are you going to through that trusty wrench you're holding into them? Everyone knows that Paul can't be elected president, but it doesn't mean he can't help openly split the party,

The greatest thing is that the Republican Party is so disunited on their side of the aisle that they couldn't possibly engineer a similar attack on the Democratic primary, which is the underlining indicator that they are disorganized enough for us to exploit this weakness.

So yes, I'm a crazy libertarian who votes for Democrats in an effort to suffocate the power of an imperial president, but hopefully many of you can see the value in undermining the Republican primary.

My ultimate hope is that Paul gets enough faux support that he has the momentum to pull a Lieberman and run for president as an independent republican, cutting away significant numbers of voters from the GOP. Such a fracture would be advantageous for any Democratic candidate, just as Perot cut into Bush 41's support, and Clinton won with less that 49% of the vote.

If you like this bizarre plan for accelerated Republican fracturization, feel free to contribute here:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

If not, then I hope you were at least entertained by this diary, and would consider recommending it. Fracture the GOP, it is the best thing for a democratic republic since sliced bread.

I forgot to add that we have to wash every neocon out of congressional races in '08. That means voting a democratic ticket for representatives and senators.

Originally posted to libertynow on Wed May 16, 2007 at 03:36 PM PDT.

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  •  Destroying the Modern Republican Party (3+ / 0-)
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    libertynow, madgranny, rjones2818

    I would love to do it with some really good friends (everyone here invited), but they've managed to do it themselves.  

    Now, back to work! -6.00, -6.21

    by funluvn1 on Wed May 16, 2007 at 03:31:25 PM PDT

  •  The party started dying long ago. (6+ / 0-)

    It started dying when they sold their soul to the relgious right, which was during Nixon's reign as the southern strategy (one of the strikes, IMHO, against Mr. Falwell).  Reagan was poison for them, for his adminsitration was the blueprint for the following two Repub admins.  Cheney, Rumsfeld and their gang put a vice around the party's neck and have been choking it for many years.  They're now stuck with Bush/Reagan wannabes, except for Ron Paul.  Say what you will about him, he's a true straight shooter and a true maverick, and probably closest to what would pass for a Goldwater conservative these days.

    Good luck with your plan, I'd suggest posting to some of the Repub sites that are more sane than what we're used to (if there are such things).

    Trust no organizaton bigger than two, and even those are suspect!

    by rjones2818 on Wed May 16, 2007 at 03:34:46 PM PDT

    •  I guess my problem with appealing (3+ / 0-)
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      G2geek, rjones2818, prettyobvious

      to such Republicans is the fact that they are heavily brainwashed by FoxNews And Right-wing radio, which has already annointed their favorite war-candidates/soon-to-be-mass-murderers for the election, while at the same time having deeclared Ron Paul the "anti-christ".

      I know for a fact that my only aid in such a matter would be liberals with a common interest in truly fracturing the modern republican party.

      •  The anti-war right may rise up. (2+ / 0-)
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        G2geek, libertynow

        There may be one more fight left in them.  Buchanan might be able to get his followers behind Paul, though I'm not sure.  Antiwar.com seems to be doing their best along that line.  If they can break the eveangellical right's stranglehold, then there might be hope for the more traditional wing of the Repubs, and we might see them get away from the maniacs they have rallied around now.

        Trust no organizaton bigger than two, and even those are suspect!

        by rjones2818 on Wed May 16, 2007 at 03:46:14 PM PDT

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        •  I can't tell you how (1+ / 0-)
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          G2geek

          joyful I would be if such a thing were to happen. Of course the so-called christians supporting the torture of humans may already be all the way down that slippery slope, with too much of a risk of personal shame should they attempt to turn around. Such an uprising would have to be a religious one, but the evangelicals supporting the destruction of muslims are no doubt a lost cause.

          •  Not impossible (1+ / 0-)
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            libertynow

            another scandal like Foley and the related coverup is very likely to drive away a slice of the base. They were upset over it last Fall, maybe as much as a quarter of the commenters on some of the conservative sites were unhappy about it as an abuse of power and position, although an anti-gay bias figured in as well.

            And there's definite unhappyness at the last several months' revelations. Conservatives that were happy to see Bush in are feeling uneasy about the AG and politicizing of law enforcement. Get more exposure of the no-bid contracts and similar that have occurred under Bush and another busload will defect.

            Too bad so many at dkos seem to buy into Bush's "either you're with us or against us" slogan, and treat everyone who doesn't 100% buy into whatever their progressive goals are as enemies.

             

  •  Bloomberg (0+ / 0-)

    I would encourage Bloomberg to run.

    Same results, higher probability.

    Of course if he won I would need to hunt you down and beat the tar out of you :-)

    Stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come. - Victor Hugo

    by racerx on Wed May 16, 2007 at 05:25:15 PM PDT

    •  would pull some of the (0+ / 0-)

      independents, moderate Republicans, and conservative Democrats that otherwise might vote 'D'.  Paul pulls the small-government Right, people that are very unlikely to vote for a Democrat, away from the neocons.

      •  He wants Gore to run (0+ / 0-)

        I wonder what would happen if he ran as Gore's VP, on an Independent ticket?

        The guy's not all bad, and isn't a bonafide Republican from what I can tell on Wikipedia. (haven't done a lot of research yet)

        If he backed Gore and they ran as independents, I would consider voting for them.

        And yes, my comments about tar beatings are hereby (at least temporarily) retracted!

        Stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come. - Victor Hugo

        by racerx on Fri May 18, 2007 at 07:30:58 AM PDT

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  •  good strategy, and I agree.... (3+ / 0-)
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    ztn, libertynow, wondering if

    Oh how I would love to see this work.

    Ron Paul comes in second, the Rs nominate another neocon, the Ds win the general election.  Now it's clearly on the table that the neocons not only screwed up the country, they screwed up their own party.  

    What would be majorly cool is this:  Let both the parties compete on a liberty-based platform.  

    The Rs would be a bit to the right, for example supporting global trade deals. The Ds would be a bit to the left, for example supporting single-payer health coverage.  But it would be the end of any talk about outlawing abortion or banning gay people from marriage, and perhaps after a while someone will have the guts to talk about repealing all of the victimless crime laws.  

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