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Welcome to today's guaranteed healthcare roundup, cross-posted at the National Nurses Organizing Committee/California Nurses Association’s Breakroom Blog, as we organize to make 2007 the Year of GUARANTEED Healthcare on the single-payer model.

When Iowans want ethanol, presidential candidates leap to it.  When the state’s largest paper calls for guaranteed healthcare on the single-payer model...well, we’ll just have to see how that riles up the candidates.  The Des Moines Register did just that today.  Momentum is building.  Money quote:

What we hope {Michael Moore’s "SiCKO"} does: Spur Americans, at long last, to demand a system that covers everyone, while providing greater quality and reining in costs.

The best option for doing that: a government-financed system, much like Medicare, which covers America's senior citizens. That wouldn't be "socialized medicine." Under Medicare, seniors still choose their doctors, and doctors don't work for the government.

Barack Obama is soliciting health care policy ideas.  I’m going to email him the Des Moines register editorial.

Meanwhile the Des Moines Register finds that Blue Cross/Blue Shield literally have no shame.

In today's New York Times {sub. req'd}, Paul Krugman slams FOX News for implying national healthcare causes terrorism.  If you remember Katrina, you know that our dysfunctional healthcare system is actually a major security vulnerability for this nation.  Krugman sums it up:

The only things standing in the way of universal health care are the fear-mongering and influence-buying of interest groups. If we can’t overcome those forces here, there’s not much hope for America’s future.

The Wall St. Journal finds that state plans to require employers to provide health insurance are illegal.  They’re right.  So why are politicians in California and other states still out there pushing them?

How to make a killing in the healthcare field?  Dr. Prem Reddy found where to start: restrict patient access to care.  Scary.

We should all follow NBC News’ story on Iraq and military medicine.  The U.S. is going to be working with our soldiers for many, many years as a result of the war.

John Conyers is an American hero.

And SiCKO Psycho?

To join the fight for guaranteed healthcare (with a "Medicare for All" or SinglePayer financing), visit with, a project of the National Nurses Organizing Committee.

Originally posted to California Nurses Shum on Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 02:46 PM PDT.

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  •  I am trying not to get my hopes up (2+ / 0-)
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    tovan, Dr Alan Brau

    When Harris Wofford was elected to the Senate from Pennsylvania, and then Bill Clinton was elected using health care as a major plank in his campaign, I thought indeed things were changing.  That was 15 years ago, and things have indeed changed -- they have gotten much worse.  But there is a chorus now that seems louder than it was then.  And there is hope in my world at least that there might be a change (for the better this time).  We have to do something.  And that something is not stripping away all insurance from those who have it through work to make us all the same.  

    •  Keep hoping (0+ / 0-)

      And there is hope in my world at least that there might be a change (for the better this time).

      What's the alternative?

      "This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no foolin' around." - David Byrne

      by Dr Alan Brau on Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 02:57:50 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Learn a little about France and relax (3+ / 0-)
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      elfling, Janet Strange, d7000

      It's certainly possible to build a system of suplemental insurance that allows employers to differentiate themselves.

      But I wouldn't worry about losing your employer based insurance, or about "one size fits all" health care. Single payer is not "single supplier".  Choice can and will thrive under single payer here, as it does in most of Europe.

      •  good heavens (0+ / 0-)

        I did not mean to say I thought "one size fits all" health care would even be a bad thing.  I think a really basic health plan that covered everyone would be a huge huge HUGE improvement.  I have no problem either with single supplier.  AT ALL.  Where did you get that idea?  I have been fortunate that during the time my parents' health care didn't cover me I was in Canada at grad school.  Came back to a job.  But my health coverage is not as generous as what I came back to -- and there is pressure in my state (for state workers, which I am) to go to a high-deductible, catastrophic plan that then people would have to buy a supplemental for, out of their own pocket.  No, I am lucky that I would not completely lose my employer based health care, but my brother has often had none of it.  So I know both sides of the issue.

    •  The employers (7+ / 0-)

      are happily taking care of that problem, by starting the stripping process themselves.  While workers still have leverage is the time to demand they make the transition to guaranteed healthcare easier...

    •  No one would be "stripped" (1+ / 0-)
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      of their current insurance. That's the appeal to fear rather than hope and possibility. What people would be "stripped" of is inability to change jobs or start their own business or freelance, of the fear that their company would demand they pay a much higher share of the premium as costs go up, that their employer will switch to another provider to keep costs down and the doctor they've long gone to is now "out of network" and co-pays have increased. People would be "stripped" of not being able to find a job or change jobs because of a pre-existing health condition. Honestly, the number of us who have that so-called "blue plate" insurance that Bush told us in his state of the union address he wanted to penalize people for is miniscule. As Moore so eloquently pointed out in SiCKO, even those of us with work-related insurance have a constant stream of worries.

      A new beginning for Ohio: The adults have taken over!

      by anastasia p on Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 04:48:05 PM PDT

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      •  he never specified what "blue plate" is (0+ / 0-)

        I have better health insurance than most in my town.  By their standards, my employer has blue plate insurance (in fact in my state it is pretty good).  Each year the deductible and co-pay go up, and Bush wants to tax the money my employer spends on healthcare for me as income.  That is how it will be cut back and back.

  •  Remember Harry and Louise? (4+ / 0-)

    They said that government health insurance would mean...

    You can't choose your doctors!

    Your health care is rationed!

    Bureaucrats get involved in medical decisions!

    And thank God we listened. We stopped that Bee-Eye-Tee-Cee-Aitch Hillary and her evil plan. Now...

    You can't choose your doctors!

    Your health care is rationed!

    Bureaucrats get involved in medical decisions!

    but at least the money goes to corporations, and we don't have some kind of icky socialized thing happening.

  •  Other plans (1+ / 0-)
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    Dr Alan Brau

    Yeah!  Californian nurses rule!

    I know you guys are against anything that isn't single payer, but I'm curious, why a compromise like Edwards plan isn't something worth supporting in the meantime...It seems to me it would allow Congress to avoid the fight with the insurance lobby--letting them stay in business while people eventually flock to the medicare like plan and let them die on the vine.  I guess there is a risk that it will be written flawed...

    I'm for single payer too, but it's going to be one hell of nasty fight considering the campaign dollars at stake.

    Maybe Edwards will reevaluate his plan considering Sicko is so popular.

    •  Well (3+ / 0-)
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      SarahLee, elfling, Janet Strange

      I commend John Edwards for talking so much about this.  

      In our opinion, insurers would be able to jimmy the system under his plan, and cherrypick customers while shunting the really sick onto the public plans.  I think it's a disagreement in tactics not strategy, at least if you take into consideration Elizabeth Edwards' comments in favor of single-payer.

      Also, politically, these "on the one hand...on the other hand," plans make it harder to educated the public about the real toxic problem in our health care system, which is the insurance industry.

      •  Hi, I'm with Big Insurance (0+ / 0-)

        here's the check for the MRI scan.

        Sorry it took so long. I've been very busy.

        A lot of people are getting sick it seems.

        I don't know how our company can shell out so much money.

        My mother is so lucky to be on the government plan. No chance of that ever going under.

        Just in case I don't see you again or my company goes under, here are the enrollment forms for the government plan.

        Make sure you deposit that check right away.

        Have a nice day, I've got to hit the road.

  •  A single payer system is the natural solution (2+ / 0-)
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    SarahLee, Janet Strange

    for the current health care insurance mess.

    It must be better "incentivized" and more sophisticated than Medicare, however.

    I will be posting a diary about my idea for "co-op generic pharmacies" (as soon as I finish editing).

    "This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no foolin' around." - David Byrne

    by Dr Alan Brau on Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 02:56:16 PM PDT

  •  Awesome (1+ / 0-)
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    Dr Alan Brau

    We are putting on our third forum in consecutive months on the topic. I feel the momentum changing here and across the country for a single-payer national system. Now if we can get our electeds on board.

    Check out

    by IvyTodd on Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 02:57:45 PM PDT

  •  AMA (1+ / 0-)
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    Janet Strange

    Another question since you're in the healthfield.  I didn't understand why the AMA would side with the private insurace co.s as was claimed in Sicko.  It would seem to me that Doctors would want as many people covered, seeking preventative care and happy so their own day at the office would be better.  

    My only guess is that it's a way to keep their salaries higher than in countries with direct services.  I noticed my dentist billed me one amount when she thought I had no insurance and then increased it when I gave them my insurer's info...

  •  Des Moines Register rocks (1+ / 0-)
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    It's one of the best newspapers in the nation.  This is an example why.

    Procrastination: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.

    by Linnaeus on Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 03:04:54 PM PDT

    •  The Toledo Blade is good too (0+ / 0-)
      It broke the Coingate scandal which showed everyone exactly how corrupt the Ohio GOP is and helped us sweep them out of most statewide offices last year.

      Unfortunately, the Cleveland Plainly Republica...I mean, Plain Dealer really isn't even worth lining your cat box with.

      A new beginning for Ohio: The adults have taken over!

      by anastasia p on Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 04:51:49 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thanks for the heads up and the info (2+ / 0-)
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    CalifSherry, elfling

    I am on the road so really appreciate getting the email alert through the Google Health Care Group, making it easy for me to find this diary.

    BTW, I've lost my TU so can't edit the tags, but could you (or someone) change, "single-payer health insurance" to "single payer health insurance" - lose the hyphen?  

  •  Thank you for your continuing good work! (0+ / 0-)

    And re:

    The Wall St. Journal finds that state plans to require employers to provide health insurance are illegal.  They’re right.  So why are politicians in California and other states still out there pushing them?

    Two thoughts occur to me.  First is that the Wall Street Journal may be indulging a bit in preemptive framing.  If everyone thinks it's illegal before that's tested, it may mute opposition.

    And, second, if enough pressure is put on employers to provide healthcare, then single-payer national health insurance may start to sound like a very good deal to them.

  •  thanks for the diary (0+ / 0-)


    "Spell check helps, dyslexia still wins"

    by npbeachfun on Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 03:52:46 PM PDT

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