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"Georgie" is traveling to Minneapolis today to offer sympathy and support for the victims of the bridge collapse.

Let's compare a few FACTS:

Demographics for Minneapolis:

White: 65.2%
Black: 16.6%
Other: 18.1%
Median household income $37,974

Demographics for New Orleans:

White: 28.05%
Black: 67.25%
Other: 4.7%
Median household income $27,133

In the last days of August of 2005, Hurricane Katrina DEVISTATED an entire community in New Orleans. The 9th Ward today looks much as it did immediately following the catastrophe which was so poorly handled by this administration.

Anyone care to bet how quickly this bridge will be replaced? My money is on: less than one year. Why the quick response? Well, next year the Republican Convention will be held where? New orleans? NO! Minneapolis? YEP!

Now I admit to being a bit of a cynic. But watch the treatment of one community's disaster when compared to another. Look at the demographics. Look at the relevant fact that, even though Minnesota is a blue state, the Repugs are going to have their convention there next year.

Circumstantial? YES! Hard to ignore? YES!

Originally posted to goldkeyrealty on Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 07:05 AM PDT.

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Do you believe the response to Katrina had anything to do with the race of the victims?

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  •  There's still a chance for the Bush snub... (3+ / 0-)
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    serrano, goldkeyrealty, sarainchicago

    that bridge is represented by a muslim congressman. I'm just saying what Glen Beck is  thinking.

  •  Apples and oranges (0+ / 0-)

    The pertinent difference between the bridge and New Orleans is not the demographics; it's the scale of the damage, although demographics played a large part in the vilification of the Bush administration after Katrina.  In Katrina we saw the largest air-rescue in at least this country's history, probably the world's history, with thousands of people being removed from inaccessible areas by Air Force and Coast Guard helicopters, yet the false claim against the government was that it did nothing.  For several days after the hurricane hit and the flood waters entered, large parts of the area were inaccessable, hence the slow delivery of relief efforts, but as soon as people and areas could be reached and aided, they were.  There was no negligence, let alone malice on the government's part.  Regarding this bridge, it's an isolated incident in an area that's not been overwhelmed with damage as New Orleans was.  The bridge will be rebuilt in time, just as much of the infrastructure in New Orleans has been and will continue to be.  If any kind of preference is being shown, it's to New Orleans, which has gotten tens of billions of dollars immediately earmarked for it.  As for the vilification of Bush and company after Katrina, that is a function of the residents being predominantly black.  They weren't discriminated against in any way, but because they suffered and were black, false claims of indifference and negligence were made against the administration.  Had they been white, there would almost certainly have not been any such false allegations.

    •  Ridiculous (1+ / 0-)
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      goldkeyrealty

      Bullshit on the air rescue, it took several days to even get started.  People from NO rescued people from NO in their PERSONAL boats.  Once the Coast Guard started air rescue (no air force) there was no place to take anybody, but unflooded neutral grounds and the sick and elderly were left in the heat without water.  Why no air drops?  Read "The Great Deluge" by Douglas Brinkley for the true story.  Large parts of the NO area were accessable, the federal government choose to let people die.  The tens of billions went to fund the flood insurance program, ACOE, Blackwater and Halliburton.

      •  Air rescue (0+ / 0-)

        Sorry, no bullshit on the air rescue - or anything else.  It got started the day after the hurricane hit.  Roughly 50,000 people were saved by this alledged non-effort.

        http://dolinar.com/...

        •  Newsday (1+ / 0-)
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          goldkeyrealty

          Propaganda!  My sister works for the Coast Guard and it took a week for rescue by the Mounties.  Unless you live in NO and stayed for the storm, what do you know except Bush lies.

        •  Rescue took 2 weeks (0+ / 0-)

          Every house or side walk in the NOLA metro area has spray painted X dating when the home was checked, if bodies were found and name of the unit.  All marks are 10  to 14 days after 8/29.

          •  Don't be ridiculous (0+ / 0-)

            The on-ground search through every house was not the same thing as the initial rescue effort, which as I've already documented began the day after the hurricane and saved tens of thousands of people.  Here's another article on it...
            http://www.military.com/...

            Far from doing nothing or being neglectful, our government did an amazing amount of work to save a mass of humanity.  The plain fact of the matter was that the government did what it could in the face of the greatest natural disaster in this country's history.  

    •  Only black residents are dissatisfied? (0+ / 0-)

      I assure you that the residents of the largely white suburb of St. Bernard Parish believe that both the state and federal governments have treated them with indifference and negligence. I can also tell you that the white residents of Lakeview believe that, on the federal side, the SBA and FEMA were completely inept, and that, on the state level, "Governor Blanco's Road Home Program" has thus far been a fiasco. Katrina was not a racially-based disaster.  And no level of government -- local, state, or federal -- came out looking good.

      •  Hey, I take part of that back (0+ / 0-)

        There was one governmental official who came out of this looking like a hero.  I am proud that she is a friend of mine.

        http://www.jfklibrary.org/...

      •  Katrina (0+ / 0-)

        =Only black residents are dissatisfied?=

        No, but it's only because such a large percent of the population was black that bogus claims of indifference or negligence were made.

        =I assure you that the residents of the largely white suburb of St. Bernard Parish believe that both the state and federal governments have treated them with indifference and negligence.=

        One wonders how much aid would be required for them to change their minds.

        =I can also tell you that the white residents of Lakeview believe that, on the federal side, the SBA and FEMA were completely inept,=

        They may or may not have been inept. Infinitely more likely is that they were overwhelmed and/or that the expectations of the residents was too high.  It's rather infantile for people to think that the government can satisfy their every need, even in times of emergency.  The government is not God; it can't wave a magic wand and make everything right again.  A lot of what is required is not even in the government's power to do.  

        =and that, on the state level, "Governor Blanco's Road Home Program" has thus far been a fiasco.=

        It may well be, but even if so, that doesn't make it negligent, malicious or discriminatory.

        =Katrina was not a racially-based disaster.=

        My point exactly, but people have accused Bush of being racist simply because the majority of victims happened to be black.  It's bizarre.

        =And no level of government -- local, state, or federal -- came out looking good.=

        Most did.  They put a great deal of time, effort and money into first preventing a disaster, which they could only do so much for, then trying to react to it.  It was truly overwhelming, and I can't fault people for being faced with an unprecedented natural disaster.

  •  It is hard to believe (8+ / 0-)

    that it was only race that caused Bush to ignore New Orleans.

    Besides, more white people were left homeless than black.  (Oh, there are so many half-truths, mis-truths and lies surrounding our tragedy).

    I'm not sure exactly why he's chosen to ignore us, but here's my list:

    1.  We're a poor city.  Not particularly influential in the long run.
    1.  He's an insensitive, self-serving dickhead and helping New Orleans did not serve his own, personal interest or goals.
    1.  He had to take time to figure out ways to exploit the situation so that his friends could get rich off of it by always working on it (no-bid contracts) and never fixing it.
    1.  We are a city of democrats.
    1.  He wanted to ruin a city like us because we stand for life and living life, art, culture and beauty, poetry, history - and, as Erich Fromm would assess, he is a necrophiliac of the worst sort.

    From wiki:

    For psychologist/philosopher Erich Fromm, necrophilia is a character orientation which is not necessarily sexual. It is expressed in an attraction to that which is dead or totally controlled. At the extreme, it results in destructiveness and a hatred of life.

    Gee, I could come up with several more but I've found that breaking my brain over Dubya is masochistic.

  •  Minnesota (7+ / 0-)

    remember, the RNC will be holding its convention there in just a few months.  Don't you think they are having kittens about now?  That is why he is heading there.

    Damage control.

    Republicans are not a national party anymore.

    by jalapeno on Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 07:12:47 AM PDT

  •  Correcting Misunderstandings (4+ / 0-)
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    nolalily, Sura 109, goldkeyrealty, chigh

    I just want to mention a few facts about Katrina that have been distorted by the media.  It is probably not valid to view the racial makeup of New Orleans as a whole in looking at this issue, as the destrution was concentrated in specific areas of the city.  Yes, the Lower 9th Ward was one of those areas and was largely black, but Lakeview was hit just as hard and treated the same by the local, state, and federal governments, and it is largely white.  Same for Gentilly, which is very racially mixed.  Those who died in Lakeview and Gentilly were largely elderly white people who died in their attics.  Also, St. Bernard Parish, a suburb east of New Orleans, was hit harder than the city.  It was home to 65,000 before Katrina and only 5 structures survived the flood.  The St. Bernard Parish governmental officials who stayed were stranded for about five days until they were finally rescued by the Canadian Mounties, not anybody from the state or the feds.  St. Bernard Parish, which was over 90%white (mainly working-class), was in many ways treated even worse by the state and federal governments that the City of New Orleans itself, as there was virtually no state or federal response in St. Bernard.  Katrina ineptitude was not a strictly racial issue.    
    http://www.sbpg.net/...

    •  So this incompetent bunch is racially blind (0+ / 0-)

      They treat ALL with equal arrogance and incompetence!  New Orleans will come back to life as a haven for wealthy white baby boomers.  Condos, time shares and high end homes will replace the 9th ward of old.  After, of course, the landfill operation raises it 25 feet or so and the levees are built to protect future residents.

      It's "Show Me The Money" time in Dixie!  Watch the future unfold.

      •  "High end homes" in the Lower 9th Ward??? (1+ / 0-)
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        chigh

        Not happening.  Not even close. The only rebuilding going on there is the rebuilding of some of the small, post WWII homes by those who owned them before the storm.  Same for St. Bernard and Gentilly.  There is also a fair smattering of modest  modular/manufactured homes (1500 square feet or so). Condo development is only going on in downtown New Orleans, in renovated office buildings and the like, and those projects are having real financing problems.  It is true that some "high end" homes are going up in Lakeview, but Lakeview had some high end homes before the storm.  Most of the rebuilding is a struggle because of lack of financing.  

        We have a lot of problems and a lot of inequity in the rebuilding process.  Turning former minority neighborhoods into havens for "wealthy white baby boomers" is not among those problems/inequities. Most of New Orleans right now is only wishing for an influx of the kind of money that could support condos, time shares, and high end homes.  See this article:
        http://www.nola.com/...

        •  OK.. A bit of exaggeration.. (0+ / 0-)

          The future will unfold to show a "new" New Orleans.  Maybe you're right... Maybe they'll dig another lake where the ninth ward used to be and use what they scrape from the earth to build up more desirable "views" for future residents.  

          I'm probably too cynical sometimes but I honestly believe the ratio of black to white will be reversed within the next 20 years helped by Katrina.  And net worth of residents will quadruple.  

          We'll see who is right.

    •  Our MSM (2+ / 0-)
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      goldkeyrealty, chigh

      did not let out a peep about the mounties.  Wanna knokw why?  Because, unlike Guymeister's innacurate post above which stated no one came until they could get in here - the Canadian mounties were the first to arrive on the scene and to begin rescue.

      There were many who came or offered to help, but Dubya turned away monies from other countries saying that we could handle it ourselves.  Then he forgot about it.

    •  St. Bernard (1+ / 0-)
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      goldkeyrealty

      I am heading that way this afternoon.  My sister was one of those rescuing in her personal boat for days until she herself was rescued by the Canadians.  Those are the facts Mr. Geimeister and we the people of NO will no let people like you rewrite history.  This is the reason people do not evacuate, people must bear witness or the government will make up shit.

  •  JUST What I Was Thinking This AM.... (4+ / 0-)
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    nolalily, decca, goldkeyrealty, chigh

    tho Nolalily makes some good points, too.  No doubt their patented corruption plays a big role.  I would add that, in all cases, he sees such incidents as a way to enlarge his creeping (and creepy) Militarism!!!

  •  It might have been race (0+ / 0-)

    But I think Party affiliation has more to do with it.

    "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking 'til you suck seed."--Curly Howard

    by JackAshe on Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 09:02:51 AM PDT

    •  You have a point.. (1+ / 0-)
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      decca

      But Minnesota is fairly solid as a Democratic state.  I think this has more to do with the fact that "THEY" will hold their convention there next year and "THEY" will need a new bridge for their limos.

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