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The Atlantic Community Think Tank in Germany presents a comparative overview of the most discussed strategies for Iraq.

They have taken six of the most viable ways forward on Iraq and spelled out their strategies on the basics: troop numbers, reconstruction, diplomacy, division and aftermath. Get the lowdown on the original Baker-Hamilton report, a standout strategy from a presidential candidate, a few maverick think tankers, and that Bush Administration favorite, the Surge:

"Iraq: Who's Got the Best Plan?"

At the above page you also have the option to download a concise matrix of these plans as a PDF.

All of the plans listed in the poll below are explained at the above link.

Originally posted to Berlin Bear on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 05:31 AM PDT.


What's the best plan for Iraq?

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  •  None of them have the best plan. (1+ / 0-)
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    Berlin Bear

    The best plan is for us to withdraw all of our troops and stop meddling in the region.

    "The meek shall inherit the Earth...but not its mineral rights.">> J. Paul Getty

    by Rex Manning on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 05:46:18 AM PDT

    •  What about Iraqis? (0+ / 0-)

      And what would be best for the Iraq?

      I gather you want to pull out ASAP. Would not that lead to ethnic cleansing? The US would be blamed for it, right?

      So, how fast do you want to pull out? And what is best to minimize the repercussions of this withdrawal?

      I know that is a tough question.

      •  What happens in Iraq... (1+ / 0-)
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        Iddybud the business of the Iraqi people. It's their country. What happens there is for them to decide, not us.

        They want us out of their country and are demonstrating that by using violence to expel us.

        We've killed more than 600,000 Iraqis. We've done enough damage. Time to stop pretending that we are a benign force there.

        BTW, the same argument was made for why we shouldn't pull out of Vietnam. Mass killings, genocide etc. It didn't happen. We did manage to murder more than a million Vietnamese though in our time there.

        How fast to pull out? As rapidly as can be done while causing the minimum casualties to US troops. If it could be done in an orderly fashion in a month, for instance, then I'd say let's do it in a month.

        "The meek shall inherit the Earth...but not its mineral rights.">> J. Paul Getty

        by Rex Manning on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 06:16:22 AM PDT

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        •  Geneva Convention (0+ / 0-)

          "What happens in Iraq is the business of the Iraqi people. It's their country."

          Is that really the case?

          Does not the US have obligations as the occupying force according to the Geneva convention?

          •  The US has a legal obligataion... (0+ / 0-)

   disgorge any conquered territories that were seized in an aggressive war.

            I suppose the German government in 1943 could have made a claim to the international community that they couldn't be expected to withdraw from Soviet territory.

            Could have said they had a moral obligation to keep their forces there to protect Ukrainians and Kossaks from Russian forces which were sure to seek revenge against elements of those groups that cooperated with the Germans.

            Or Saddam Hussein could have said that Iraqi forces couldn't withdraw from Kuwait because there would be a pogrom against Palestinians there who were on the side of Iraq. When Iraq withdrew there was a pogrom by the Kuwaiti royal family against Palestinians in Kuwait.

            The US is an aggressor nation that has conquered another nation. It's only obligation under international law is to withdraw from that conquered nation.

            "What happens in Iraq is the business of the Iraqi people. It's their country."

            Is that really the case?

            Yes. That really is the case. Iraq belongs to the Iraqis. Ireland belongs to the Irish. Germany belongs to the Germans......

            "The meek shall inherit the Earth...but not its mineral rights.">> J. Paul Getty

            by Rex Manning on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 10:56:01 AM PDT

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  •  Jesus has the best plan. (2+ / 0-)
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    Berlin Bear, Rex Manning

    Redeploy to Iran!

    "I don't think I intended to break the law." - Monica Goodling

    by Bob Love on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 06:02:10 AM PDT

  •  This ain't noPottery Barn, ain't no foolin around (0+ / 0-)

    I wonder why we still place any belief in General Powell's warning of "We break it, we buy it."

    That's a line dished out to us by a corporation that invites us in and wants us to invest tons of money, then punishes us if we make a clumsy mistake in one of the many stores in their big corporate chain.

    Chalabi and his gang of Iraqi investors invited the neocons in to their store. Clumsily, Bush and the neocons led us into Chalabi's "shop," hoping we'd invest tons of money in his product (the product being big U.S. investments with Iraqis pointing the way  with hugs, cheers, and welcoming flowers). Bush made a big fucking mistake. Now he expects all of us to pay for it, including suiting up our own precious flesh and blood to continue paying for the biggest mistake this country's ever made.

    This ain't no Pottery Barn
    This ain't no disco
    This ain't no foolin' around.

    We ain't got time for that now.

    Take that Pottery Barn rule and shove it up your kiester.

    I'd go for some combination of Conetta/Edwards.

    Americans Against Escalation in Iraq TAKE A STAND 8/28/07 6pm Syracuse Federal Bldg Clinton St Syracuse NY

    by Iddybud on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 07:09:55 AM PDT

    •  I'm not an expert, but I had ideas 2 years ago (0+ / 0-)

      I started with the word "imagine" (and you'd really have to stretch your imagination to think Bush woud ever become an effective leader). It started:


      President Bush Stuns the World - Announces An End to the Occupation of Iraq and a New World Organization for the Benefit of Civility in Iraq and Beyond...

      The public trust is all but gone. Our military is stretched and broken and can not take anymore without having to resort to a draft, because on the US's present course, over the next five years it will take to see Iraq through its bitter civil war, there will be a need for at least 400,000 American soldiers and marines in theater. President Bush decides to make a serious move to change the course of future events in Iraq - for the sake of morality, for the sake of a strong military, for stability of the Middle East, for US national security. He finally understands that his country needs to regain international respect and to seek sincerely the cooperation of all nations to end terror and to do the work of solving the complicated root causes of terrorism. (The kind of cooperation where you don't have to pay off the participants).

      Getting rid of Saddam Hussein was a good thing in principle, and Bush knows he'll always have that piece of history to his benefit - but in Iraq today, as things stand, Bush has come to understand that he needs an immediate, strategic change of direction. Things are going terribly sour. Until he makes that basic change, Bush knows that the nation will pay a higher and higher price over a long time - until the ultimate train wreck occurs... when we are eventually forced to withdraw troops anyhow, but without a plan for stability in civil-war-torn Iraq......

      As I said, I'm no expert.
      Far from it.

      Ideas are like stars.
      They're in the sky for all to gaze upon.
      Anyone with expertise could read non-expert ideas and begin to imagine themselves....

      I'm glad you put these ideas in front of us today, Berlin Bear.

      Americans Against Escalation in Iraq TAKE A STAND 8/28/07 6pm Syracuse Federal Bldg Clinton St Syracuse NY

      by Iddybud on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 07:22:27 AM PDT

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    •  I were an Iraqi... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... I would be pretty pissed at America for destroying my state, promising democracy and then leaving a civil war behind.

      •  Yes, and this diary deserves much more attention (0+ / 0-)

        We make more enemies there with each day this occupation is allowed to go on with no exit strategy. I wish more Kossacks would have contributed to the discussion of these varied plans.

        •  Kossack Plan (0+ / 0-)

          Is there a Dailykos plan for Iraq?

          Did the Kossack's team up and write their own plan for Iraq. Would be cool.

          And by "plan" I mean more than just pull out. I would like to know if you intend to work with Syria, Iran, the UN, Europe to help the Iraqi people deal with the consequences of a US withdrawal. And if yes, how do you want to motivate/encourage these country and organisations. What incentives do you provide?

          You -- i.e. USA -- started the war. Thus you are responsible.

          •  Berlin bear - wonderful questions (0+ / 0-)

            My own answer would be this: The plan we have for what we will do after the withdrawal of U.S. troops is of ultimate importance. It will be this nation's only chance to regain our reputation as an honest and fair player on the international front.

            The Pottery Barn rule can only make sense once we end the occupation of Iraq and, at long last, give the Iraqi people the respect that they deserve.

            An effective American leader with a mind for diplomacy and good diplomats to his or her administration's credit (I always prepare to be called a "surrender monkey" by idiots of the American right-wing when I mention diplomacy) could motivate the UN, Syria, Iran, and Europe to move toward a new day for post-occupation Iraq.

            Incentives? How about stabilization in the region to begin with? No one wants instability and humanitarian disaster in the region. Many will blame America for f**king up for quite some time, and you must admit that we have, haven't we? America will have to give more concessions than ordinary, perhaps? But you certainly don't think America will have to beg for cooperation? After all, we are still an interdependent world, yes? I'm of the mindset that it's impossible to tend to Americans’ well-being without also tending to the well-being of all other peoples on the planet and of the planet itself. I would love to see my country as a humanitarian superpower.

            America, for all its near-futile effort in Iraq, is still a democratic nation of people who truly care and want something much, much better than what we currently have for our government. We'll soon choose a new leader and are pressing the current President's administration to end this disaster.

            I don't think all the entire world went crazy even if, for a time, the American government did.

            Am I making sense? I know I'm rambling on.

            I happen to think we owe Iraq a lot now that Saddam is gone and there's anarchy jeopardizing Iraq's Constitutional issues that have been previously agreed upon. Unfortunately, the reason for the jeopardy is the fact that the occupation goes on.

            America, no doubt, has a stake in seeing Iraq secure. America needs to give up many of our false gods of big weapons, unlilateral power plays, and a free market that serves only our self-interests...we need to end the occupation of Iraq...and we need to move toward working with our allies and coaxing our non-allies to help the people of Iraq find their own way in their own time..without this mess spilling over its borders to a regional conflict.

            Time is running out.

  •  I got the best plan (2+ / 0-)
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    Berlin Bear, Rex Manning

    Get out now, leaving lots of food and water

    When guns are outlawed only conservatives will have guns

    by exlrrp on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 07:18:29 AM PDT

  •  HR 1234 The kucinich Plan for Iraq (0+ / 0-)

    Complete US withdrawel

    Strength Through Peace

    by penguinsong on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 07:28:35 AM PDT

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