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This announcement was certainly more dignified than the last, so I have to give him props for that. But I come not to praise Craig. One of the most powerful members of the GOP in terms of what he could do to this region of the country, is departing. Joel Connelly, in yesterday's Seattle PI, chronicled just one aspect of his long and exceedingly conservative career:

[H]is actions in backrooms of the nation's capital deserve attention. Call it a Craig's List of how to block good deeds, or at least see that they don't go unpunished.

Sen. Craig Thomas, R-Wyo., came to politics out of the very conservative Wyoming Farm Bureau and American Farm Bureau.... He died earlier this year.

Thomas had a warm spot in his heart for a stirring place -- the canyon of the Snake River as it bends around the Teton Mountains and crosses from Wyoming into Idaho. Its headwaters are in Yellowstone National Park. ... Before he died, Thomas introduced legislation to protect the Snake River headwaters country under the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act.

In a Democratic-controlled Senate, Craig has single-handedly prevented the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee from taking action on Thomas' bill, which is supported by both Wyoming senators....

Craig has been at it again recently, offering a little-noticed rider to this year's appropriations bill.

It says the Interior Department should carry out "without further delay" provisions of an Upper Snake River "biological opinion" released in 2005 by the National Marine Fisheries Service.

Well, there's a problem: The biological opinion was ruled illegal by U.S. District Judge James Redden. Under orders from Redden, the federal government is about to issue new, more scientific-based (and fish-friendly) plans for the river....

As Craig becomes a pariah, his fellow senators -- notably Washington Democrats Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell -- ought to look at his Upper Snake River gambit. Implementing the old biological opinion would benefit a small number of Idaho irrigators at the expense of a resource -- salmon -- that helps define the Pacific Northwest.

Is Larry Craig staying until September 30 to make sure he kills his old friend's dying dream to protect the upper Snake River? Is he staying to make sure the rider he inserted in the appropriations bill to upend a district court ruling and torpedo a more environmentally plan from being implemented?

Larry Craig might be a figure worthy of compassion in his private life. He's obviously conflicted and in denial, as his police interview tape and bizarre press conference earlier in the week show. But Larry Craig the Senator has been a powerful and destructive force for the long term economic and environmental health of the very place he calls home.

Good riddance.

Update: Red State Rebel was at the press conference, and blogs it in this diary. Her perspective from the ground is invaluable.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:55 AM PDT.

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    •  So what about Diaper Dave Vitter? (0+ / 0-)

      I guess if you're a Republican, being gay is beyond the pale but wearing diapers for kinky fun is just normal Republican anal-explosive behavior.

      More likely, they're waiting to see if they can get Jindal into the Governor's house, and THEN decide whether to throw him under the bus.

      EVERY Republican decision on what's right or wrong is filtered through the question as to whether it's good for their political power base.

      David Broder commented that this was "terrible news, for Democrats".

      by AdmiralNaismith on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 11:01:06 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The GOP response was audible nationwide: (7+ / 0-)

    "WHEW!"

    The Gay GOP response was . . . crickets, and   'whew'.

    BenGoshi
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    The distinction that goes with mere office runs far ahead of the distinction that goes with actual achievement. H.L. Mencken

    by BenGoshi on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:54:15 AM PDT

    •  That was John McCain giving the whoop when (3+ / 0-)

      Larry said he was quitting (too bad he was off-camera.)

      "Our knobs go up to 11."

      by Cartoon Peril on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:58:16 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I Totally Agree, BenGoshi.... (8+ / 0-)

      I considered writing a diary earlier this week (until Markos wrote something of a similar theme).

      Memo to gay Republicans (all nine of you): Did you realize how quickly the GOP wrecked the career of one of their own they thought might have sought consensual gay sex? As opposed to embracing...EMBRACING!!!...one of their own who allegedly paid women to put adult diapers on him before they had sex.

      That's not even counting the apparent "conservative" belief that keeping people from being fired for being gay is somehow giving gay people a "special favor."

      To riff off of an old cliche, a gay American voting for Republicans is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

      "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
      Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
      Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

      by Steve Singiser on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:59:18 AM PDT

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      •  "All 9 of you"? Well, actually, . . . (3+ / 0-)

        . . . see this.  I have no idea, just passing along info.

        BenGoshi
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        The distinction that goes with mere office runs far ahead of the distinction that goes with actual achievement. H.L. Mencken

        by BenGoshi on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:07:11 AM PDT

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        •  In A Way, It Wouldn't Surprise Me... (1+ / 0-)
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          There is a really virulent strain in the GOP of self-hating ideologues. On gay rights, we have the Foleys and Craigs of the world. On African-American issues, we have the Vernon Robinsons of the world.

          My emotions when I hear these people speak range between rage and pity.

          "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
          Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
          Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

          by Steve Singiser on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:13:19 AM PDT

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          •  There are plenty (1+ / 0-)
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            of self-hating women, too.

            I could have been a soldier... I had got part of it learned; I knew more about retreating than the man that invented retreating. --Mark Twain

            by NogodsnomastersMary on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:22:35 AM PDT

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            •  Just to Clarify-- (1+ / 0-)
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              We are counting Ann Coulter as a WOMAN, right??

              "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
              Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
              Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

              by Steve Singiser on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:27:30 AM PDT

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              •  Making jokes about Ann Coulter's supposed (4+ / 0-)

                transgenderedness routinely draws TRs on this website.  With your UID, I'm sure you know that.

                There is no evidence whatsoever that Ann Coulter is not a woman.  Using being transgendered as an insult hurts the transgendered members of this community.

                Economic Left/Right: -7.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

                by DMiller on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:31:42 AM PDT

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              •  Ask Ann Coulter (1+ / 0-)
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                ...and it will no doubt spew out some kind of reply.

                David Broder commented that this was "terrible news, for Democrats".

                by AdmiralNaismith on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 11:02:38 AM PDT

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                •  No person is an "it". (1+ / 0-)
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                  I don't care who.  Apparently you have never been referred to as "it."  As a transsexual woman I have.  Not cool.

                  When groups of people were referred to as objects, we end up with things like Rwanda.

                  It doesn't matter if you intended to insult me or not.  You did.

                  •  See Above.... (0+ / 0-)

                    I was not going where you thought I was going. Zack from SFV said it better than I did....

                    "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
                    Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
                    Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

                    by Steve Singiser on Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 08:13:03 AM PDT

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                    •  As a transsexual woman... (0+ / 0-)

                      ...who people have tried to exclude from being human, that's not any better.

                      •  Due Respect, But.... (0+ / 0-)

                        You are projecting some awful things that have been done to you to this situation.

                        The reference to Coulter not being a woman (or, for that matter, not being human) has way more to do with behavior than physical appearance.

                        When someone says 9/11 widows are enjoying their status as widows....when someone makes comment after comment which could be seen as degrading to women (particular those who fail to share her worldview)...the point I was trying to make, and evidently not well, was that I cannot conceive of a woman, even those of the self-loathing variety, being so far over the bend.

                        "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
                        Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
                        Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

                        by Steve Singiser on Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 02:00:29 PM PDT

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                        •  With all due respect? (0+ / 0-)

                          When you have shown me none?

                          I'm projecting nothing.  I'm well past my transition and am perfectly comfortable with who I am.  What I am not comfortable with are people who say they are attacking someone because of their behavior and then attack their being or appearance.  If you oppose the behavior, attack the behavior.  If you oppose the words, attack the words.  If you oppose the ideas, attack the ideas.

                          Anything else is "over the bend."  

                          •  I Am Not Interested In A Fight Here.... (0+ / 0-)

                            I dispute that I have shown you no respect. I have kept a civil and deferential tone throughout.

                            The reason I made the remark about projection was because not once, but twice, you made a reference that you had experiences where people said you were "not human" because you were transgender. In other words, I felt you were personalizing it. I had no interest in that.

                            Let me put it another way--If someone makes a derogatory mention of Christians somewhere on this site (which has been done, usually in regard to the political antics of some of them), am I to automatically assume that they are not only talking about my wife, but insulting my wife??

                            I have never interpreted it that way...

                            As for this:

                            What I am not comfortable with are people who say they are attacking someone because of their behavior and then attack their being or appearance.  If you oppose the behavior, attack the behavior.  If you oppose the words, attack the words.  If you oppose the ideas, attack the ideas.

                            Fair enough, and that is something I try to live up to most of the time. I am not always successful, but then again, we are not perfect people. Yours is a worthy admonition, but one that it must be said that few people (both here at DKos and elsewhere) follow. Our debates and arguments would be better if we did.

                            "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
                            Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
                            Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

                            by Steve Singiser on Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 03:27:11 PM PDT

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                          •  Respect could have been shown... (0+ / 0-)

                            ...by not being defensive about your behavior when I didn't even respond to you in the first place.

                            Claiming that my referencing personal experiences in order to make a point (to give context, if you will) is "projecting" also not being respectful.

                            Whatever.

                          •  Wait A Sec.... (0+ / 0-)

                            Your post wasn't in response to me?

                            Well, that would saved both of us a hell of a lot of time....

                            Oh, vey. I really thought the remark about being insulted was directed at my comment.

                            Well, heck...sorry about that.

                            And I also apologize for misreading why you were invoking your personal experiences. I thought you were making a direct comparison.

                            Like I said, I am not interested in a fight. Ideologically, we basically are playing for the same team....

                            "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
                            Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
                            Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

                            by Steve Singiser on Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 04:16:47 PM PDT

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                          •  My original comment... (0+ / 0-)

                            ...was written to AdmiralNaismith, who makes a habit of the Coulter is "a man" or an "it" or whatever.  And never responds when questioned...

                          •  Ah, I See..... (0+ / 0-)

                            I just saw it as a post beneath my original comment and thought it was directed at me. These threads get a little tangled, the longer they get.

                            Well, didn't mean to get your blood pressure up (or mine, for that matter, lol) unnecessarily...

                            Enjoy the rest of the three-day weekend (I would, but it's hell-hot here in SoCal, and my little one has a high fever, which must be really miserable in this heat...)

                            "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
                            Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
                            Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

                            by Steve Singiser on Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 06:22:59 PM PDT

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      •  I've been kind of surprised (2+ / 0-)
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        when people use the term "consensual gay sex." He wasn't planning to rape anyone, but this wasn't like two men meeting at a gay bar and engaging in sex. A solicitation for sex in this scenario may clearly not have been consensual. This was a US Senator putting himself in precarious position, trolling for sex, in a BATHROOM, among people who may/may not care to be trolled for sex. I mean, isn't this creepy, the total desperation and  self-destructiveness of this act?
        Many people have asked why the police are using resources to patrol bathrooms. Remember, this is not the bathroom where 9 out of 10 men are trolling for sex. Craig was taking a big risk that the person using the bathroom was there to take care of business, and may be disturbed by someone peering into their stall, and have a forceful reaction. I think it is valid to want to use a restroom at an airport without having someone peering into your stall.
        Of course, someone may say I am homophobic, which is totally not the case. To the contrary, I don't care about your sex life, don't want to know about it, don't want to play a part in your thrills, and don't want to be exposed to it. Do what you want, keep it to yourself and your circle of friends. I take no moral stance on your action, I don't want to be a part of it.

    •  Good Point -where are the log cabin repugs? (2+ / 0-)
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      I would be curious to see their response to this whole debacle.  I guess they must be stuck in their usual mode of trying to grab a couple of scraps from the repug table to actually take a stand on anything.  

      "The woman's life is misery; for God's sake, people, at least give her a few good songs". NYT review of The Color Purple

      by arogue7 on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:00:38 AM PDT

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      •  i saw a member being interviewed on tv (2+ / 0-)

        and i think his primary response was along the lines of "can we please focus on the criminal behavior, because he wasn't arrested for being gay, you know?"

        when was that group formed, anyway?  because the only explanation i can muster to explain their existence is that they are still of our fathers' GOP, before they went all fundagelical fruitshit.

        why they still hold on, i will never understand.

        "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

        by Cedwyn on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:12:40 AM PDT

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        •  Log Cabin Republicans (2+ / 0-)
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          think being rich will save them from anti-gay hatred. Needless to say, they are wrong. Meanwhile, their existence lets the very few remaining sane, old-line Republicans kid themselves that their party is not exclusively a haven for knuckle-dragging, hateful Jeebusites.

          I could have been a soldier... I had got part of it learned; I knew more about retreating than the man that invented retreating. --Mark Twain

          by NogodsnomastersMary on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:26:53 AM PDT

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  •  Good riddance, indeed. n/t (6+ / 0-)

    www.hillaryclinton.com

    by Caldonia on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:55:12 AM PDT

  •  Thanks For This Angle, MCJoan.... (5+ / 0-)

    Interesting that the GOP had not a problem with legislative abominations like this one, but possible desire for same sex activity in a bathroom? "Get rid of him!!" say the party of family values, while they embrace one of their own who allegedly patronized hookers for a decade.

    "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
    Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
    Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"

    by Steve Singiser on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:55:18 AM PDT

  •  I was beginning to feel sorry for him (10+ / 0-)

    until I read about his plans for the Snake River, a truly beautiful natural resource.  The Republics just can't stand those, can they?

    "There are no happy endings in the Bush Administration". - Randall L. Tobias

    by MadRuth on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:55:46 AM PDT

  •  lets hope for the 50 state strategy (8+ / 0-)

    Hopefully, we can find a good candidate with Tester like qualities.  Even if we don't win it next year, let make them fight for it with better ideas, candidate and message!  

    What a sad way to end a career.  What a sad pathetic man.  I would feel sorry for him if not for his actions as an elected official.

    "The woman's life is misery; for God's sake, people, at least give her a few good songs". NYT review of The Color Purple

    by arogue7 on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:57:04 AM PDT

  •  Why wait 'til Sept. 30th (8+ / 0-)

    I would think that no Senator would be caught dead talking to him or have the appearance of helping him out. Hopefully, Craig and everything he is working on became taboo this week.

  •  I find this all sad (16+ / 0-)

    The guy should have been ostracized a long time ago for his obvious corrupt votes and it's all about doing the nasty in a bathroom?  This country is ass backwards, although the hypocrisies of this guy are rivaling Roy Cohen.  

    But, I just find it sad that someone is taken out by a bathroom quickie when we have stuff, such as massive, just outright theft of DoD contractor funds, politicians voting for bills that no one wants but Bill Gates or the US Chamber of Commerce, things like the above (not that Cantwell is so great, she pushes Bill Gates agenda)...but why is the real stuff not causing an outrage to the point they must resign on the spot?  Why is some closeted act the big story?

    http://blog.noslaves.com

    by BobOak on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 09:59:35 AM PDT

    •  He isn't being driven out b/c of law breaking (8+ / 0-)

      He is being driven out b/c he's built his career off of homophobic rhetoric and family values sanctimony.

      The lynch mob he's spent years assembling just found out he's one of 'em.

      •  I know (2+ / 0-)
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        and that's incredibly pathetic because Idaho should have been wanting him to resign immediately for destroying their state and enabling even more corporate corruption, bad trade, economic policy.  

        Someone needs to make these people see that a blow job is not equal to billions of dollars of theft to the taxpayer.

        http://blog.noslaves.com

        by BobOak on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:19:03 AM PDT

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      •  Yes he created (1+ / 0-)
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        the haters who now hate him so he has no one but himself to blame. He was part of creating the self righteous homophobes who now condemn him. Ie He became what he hated.

        And listening to CSPAN callers, they are more concerned he could be Gay, not that he was arrested for this conduct.

        Make no mistake about it, the right wingers are not only against Gay Marriage but Against Gay Rights, Period!
        Listening to callers on CSPAN clearly shows that. Talking to right wing homophobes and the religious right, they will say they are Anti Gay Rights. It is only the GOPers on TV shows that say Anti Gay Marriage..but it is really Anti Gay Rights of any kind.

        Impeachment is not a Constitutional Crisis. Impeachment is the Cure for a Constitutional Crisis.-John Nichols

        by wishingwell on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:42:43 AM PDT

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    •  If he'd cultivated a culture of tolerance (0+ / 0-)

      and of welcoming diversity, he'd still be Senator. He'd have a base of support that would rally around him in his time of crisis, instead of a bunch of bigots who moved away from him on the Group W Bench.

      That there is the biggest difference between Clinton and Craig.

      David Broder commented that this was "terrible news, for Democrats".

      by AdmiralNaismith on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 11:06:17 AM PDT

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      •  y'know... (0+ / 0-)

        It's highly amusing that of the three Republican senators recently involved in sex scandals, all three involved unambiguously illegal sexual acts, and two were gay.

        The result? One week stories, then nothing. Sure, two of them resigned, but we still have one admitted criminal in office.

        Compare to Clinton's misdeeds, which were all perfectly legal and heterosexual. Result? Endless media shitstorm.

  •  Yeah, see now THIS is the kind of stuff (3+ / 0-)
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    that should make headlines and ruin political careers.

  •  (Vid) Goodbye Larry! We love you! (6+ / 0-)

    "A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves."--Edward R. Murrow

    by Scarce on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:00:47 AM PDT

  •  The critical thing is (8+ / 0-)

    that the same GoOPers who are stampeding away from Craig now found him very useful when pushing their agenda.

    The real obscenity isn't what the man did in that bathroom; it's what he did out in the open on the floor of the Senate.

    We shall crush our enemies under the cruel heel of our basic goddamned f--king competence. -Hunter

    by MBNYC on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:02:05 AM PDT

  •  Thank you for (3+ / 0-)
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    the parentheses in

    "biological opinion" released in 2005 by the National Marine Fisheries Service.

    .
    I have a cousin who lost her job, along with other colleagues, in the Fish and Wildlife division because their scientific conclusions were too scientific for this Administration.

    While I despise the hypocracy of Craig and the Republicans in this sad chapter of ongoing scandals, I am happy you brought attention to one of the more insidious aspects of Craig's participation in the political process.  Unfortunately, he probably will be replaced by a like minded moron.

    My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. Barbara Jordan 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:02:50 AM PDT

  •  Tap tap tap (2+ / 0-)

    Taps.

    ...no hell below us, above us only sky.

    by rightiswrong on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:03:31 AM PDT

  •  Ha! He sounded like OJ Simpson (11+ / 0-)

    ...dedicating his life to find the real killer:

    I have little control over what people choose to believe, but clearing my name is important to me and my family.

    Having said that, to pursue my legal options as I continue to serve Idaho would be an unwanted and unfair distraction from my job and for my Senate colleagues.

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

    by Barbara Morrill on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:03:41 AM PDT

  •  It's a nitpicky thing I know ... (8+ / 0-)

    ...in a month when we will witness the latest round of capitulation on Cheney-Bush Iraq policy, and it has nothing to do with Craig's departure. But I just couldn't help notice one of my pet peeves in that PI piece: the infelicitous description of the Pacific salmon as a "resource."

    Yes, yes. I know it is. And has been, if you want to be technical, since long before Idaho irrigators, federal dam-builders or any European except for, perhaps, Kennewick Man appeared in the region. But pardon me if I think the consideration of wildlife merely as a "resource" is one reason we've dug our way into an environmental crisis that encompasses the endangered and threatened species of the Pacific Northwest and elsewhere.  

    "When shifting paradigms, it is important to put in the clutch." -- Patricia Limerick

    by Meteor Blades on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:05:35 AM PDT

    •  Here's the rub (9+ / 0-)

      In order to protect the fish runs, the most compelling argument you can make is for the economic benefit they bring as a resource, whether in tourism and recreation dollars, or in their harvest.

      So even to save them, you have to talk about them as a resource.

      •  The Ferengi (3+ / 0-)

        One of Star Trek, Next Generation characters that sticks in my head are the Ferengi where everything was reduced to profit and morality was considered a sin.  

        If you want to talk about things being reduced to resources, my favorite term, human resources.

        People in the workplace are called heads and headcount as if they are talking about a herd of cattle as workers.

        Right now, we have Democratic Presidential candidates joining in, Clinton especially, selling out even further U.S. workers to Silicon valley executives as their huge I will deliver promise for campaign contributions.

        Society itself and what kind of world we are creating is thrown off as "fluff" and the entire concept demeaned.  

        http://blog.noslaves.com

        by BobOak on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:17:01 AM PDT

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        •  the ferengi are the only thing (2+ / 0-)
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          about DS 9 i like.  guess i'm a bad liberal.  oh, wait...Oto is cool, too.  

          "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

          by Cedwyn on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:22:13 AM PDT

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      •  Yes. I know. When Hank Adams and ... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...other Indians of the Pacific Northwest were talking about the salmon as a treasure instead of a resource, and something the Yakima and other tribes had a longstanding synergy with (he never used that word, to my knowledge), the commercial fishing industry just about went berserk. Obviously, tradition doesn't cut it when trying to save the salmon.

        "When shifting paradigms, it is important to put in the clutch." -- Patricia Limerick

        by Meteor Blades on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:24:57 AM PDT

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        •  I've been rereading Cadillac Desert (3+ / 0-)

          I think there's probably no more complicated issue in domestic American politics than water in the West. This issue, up in our little corner of it, is just one piece of the puzzle.

          And in all of it, tradition starts as soon as the white man shows up to start stealing it. When they talk tradition here, it's who has the longest standing water right.

      •  alternative values are solvent : ) (0+ / 0-)

        also, water rights are established based on their "use".  "use it or lose it" ~ it's an egregious system which rewards waste and counter-conservation utilization granting industry leverage in court.  i disagree a bit with the idea that the economic value of a thing is the most compelling argument to conserve it.  there have got to be other ways...  i think that when we use economic models to compell, even if it's for conservation ~ we serve to reify the "economic" preeminence, which is ultimately the problem, above alternatives which would benefit from some representation every now and again.  folk might be suprised at the willingness of people to recognize alternative values which are too often broken down into dollars and cents.  it might even be a hook for fruther splitting the evangelicals off of the right.

        federal case-law is demonstrating ample recognition of alternative "uses" - or values associated with conservation ~ usually through ESA & other pre-existing legislation.  we've just got to prevent craig, and others like him, from riding holes into that legislation.

        the rub is a good pragmatic point ~ one which i hope becomes weaker with every craig knocked out of washington.    

  •  Yes, it's relatively easy to stop things, (3+ / 0-)
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    overlander, Longstaff, MyBrainWorks

    especially once you figure out how the bureaucracy works.  It's much harder to start something and take the risk that, like the No Child Left Behind legislation or HAVA, it fails.
    The Republican party seems to be the party of the sure thing.  Being right is not the opposite of left, it's the opposite of being wrong, which you are certain not to be if all you ever do is support some crony's plan.

    A lot of these people are like the "unjust steward" in the Bible.  They cheat their employers (the American people) of their assets and hand out gifts to their cronies so that, when they are dismissed, they'll have a soft landing.  Some of Jesus' parables are hard to understand until you see the behavior first-hand.

  •  I hope he drowns in his own embarrasment (3+ / 0-)

    I know I'm not exactly taking the high road with that comment but what a grotesque way Craig lived his life.

    Reminds me of women who build high-power careers of bashing feminism while enjoying all feminism's benefits.

    Or self-hating blacks like Ward Connerly or Clarence Thomas who make their living by giving racism against blacks a black face.

    Yuck

  •  good riddance (2+ / 0-)

    Honestly, I'm surprised the GOP didn't keep the guy around longer. Every minute the press covered him was a minute that couldn't be used to cover how Iraq remains FUBAR.

  •  Even gay men can be mean... (5+ / 0-)

    ...greedy, deceitful, vengeful, petty and destructive.  It's not just limited to heterosexuals.  
    Bad character does not discriminate based on sexual orientation.

    -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

    by goldberry on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:07:44 AM PDT

  •  Environmental Gestapo man (4+ / 0-)

    What a disaster this man has been for the animals, plants and humans of Idaho.

    This is a day to celebrate those who love this planet and her creatures.

    •  Amen (0+ / 0-)

      and to think that Bauer Dude from the Christian Coalition equated Craig's hypocrisy to the hypocrisy of AL Gore on Global Warming and John Edwards on Poverty, not only made no sense, it was beyond ridiculous. It might have been the dumbest thing I have heard this year. And with Bush as President, that is saying a lot. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Impeachment is not a Constitutional Crisis. Impeachment is the Cure for a Constitutional Crisis.-John Nichols

      by wishingwell on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:45:32 AM PDT

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  •  good riddance, indeed (1+ / 0-)
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    NogodsnomastersMary

    he's almost as bad as pombo when it comes to environmental issues:

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

    by Cedwyn on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:08:25 AM PDT

  •  EXCELLENT catch on the backroom skullduggery (1+ / 0-)
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    NogodsnomastersMary

    of this guy's political career. This I'm sure is just a minor point on a whole catalog of anti-environment, anti-people activities from Craig.

    thanks for the article.

  •  How to muster compassion? (2+ / 0-)
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    As I've said elsewhere, I have a teeny tiny bit of compassion for Larry Craig and his private life, but only a teeny tiny bit, and this is just one of many reasons why.  I mean, the guy had choices, and he chose to be not very succcessfully in the closet while publicly pursuing a far too long list of awful right-wing politics.  He could have voluntarily come out, and while he would have lost the power and prestige which he's now losing anyway, I seriously doubt that his life would have been endangered or that he would have been kicked out in the streets.  I think everyone should come out, but I also recognize that in a still homophobic culture (although less so than it used to be), some people's situations are more conducive to that than others' are.  Larry Craig?  He chose power, personal gain, etc. over personal and public good.  He didn't have to, but he did.  It's hard to have much compassion for that.

  •  So glad he's gone (1+ / 0-)
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    frankzappatista

    And I pray that Sen. Thomas' dream can come true, it is truely a beautiful part of our world.

    When we in the west grow us up some wingers we really do it in style. Craig in Idaho, ex-Rep Hansen in Utah came into the game with much the same agenda. Rape and pillage the environment, demean the tree huggers, DFHs, gays, and anyone with a brain.

    Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    "A smallish man Afghnistan, a watchdog in a nervous land and in the tents new rifles, hey, short memory." Midnight Oil 1983

    by high uintas on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:17:28 AM PDT

  •  Welfare Ranching, Logging, & Farming... (4+ / 0-)
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    high uintas, mikolo, ER Doc, begreen

    Fuck this asshole and others like him who've been raping the environment, native peoples, etc. of the American West for years on end now.

    It's funny, but you don't hear people crying "socialism" and "government handouts" over this kind of bill, most likely, because the handful of select peoples it would be benifitting skins aren't brown.

    This is a racist, homophobic country Jack.

    Get used to it!

  •  How is it conservative (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, high uintas

    to rape, pillage and plunder the environment?  It sounds rather un-conservative to me.

    This, I will never understand.

    •  indeed (2+ / 0-)
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      wishingwell, high uintas

      they don't conserve much at all, do they?

      "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

      by Cedwyn on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:23:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Read your history... (2+ / 0-)
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      high uintas, protectspice

      Facing West: The metaphysics of Indian Hating & Empire Building. Richard Drinnon
      Beyond Geography: Frederick Turner
      Blood of the Land: Rex Weyler.
      The American West as Living Space: Wallace Stegner.

      etc..
      etc..

      •  Edward Abbey/Desert Solitaire (2+ / 0-)
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        mikolo, frankzappatista

        My favorite book on the west, the people, and the loss from a perspective that's closest to my own.

        "A smallish man Afghnistan, a watchdog in a nervous land and in the tents new rifles, hey, short memory." Midnight Oil 1983

        by high uintas on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:42:53 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Ya ta hey (0+ / 0-)
        So many hidden threads come to view in his-story/our-story. The 'Pilgrims' and their fellow travelers were 'encouraged to seek new lands because their fundamentalist ways had gone out of favor in Europe after a hundred years of religious warfare, Puritain 'purifications, witch hunts, etc.

        So, here they came, the poster children of self loathing, body hating, anointed of god, to build the New Jerusalem. We all know how they brought light to the heathen nations; fire, fire water, & smallpox blankets, all in the name of righteousness. That Sen. Craig should find himself in this position, after living & preaching those same 'values' us ample evidence that "those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat its errors". His actions in the ongoing destruction of the salmon are a logical extension of the destruction of the buffalo, and there is a kind of sweet poetry in him bringing about his own destruction in this way.

        Good riddance, good show, good argument for colonizing Mars. Let's let them go build a New Jerusalem there while we work on cleaning up their god awful mess here.

        "An it harm no one, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" Alistair Crowley

        by Old Lefty on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 11:11:00 AM PDT

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  •  In behalf of the nations vetewrans (2+ / 0-)
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    GOOD RIDDANCE!

    We are ever grateful for his departure!

    HALLELUJAH!

    This man did not live in a real world.

    New blood in the 16th Congressional District of Ohio in 2008! Senator John Boccieri!

    by glbTVET on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:24:21 AM PDT

  •  He has 30 days to change his mind (0+ / 0-)

    and it would serve the GOP right if he did, resigning from the GOP caucus which denounced him and voting to remove the President who distanced himself from him.  If he were to do these things, plus vote to bring the troops home, I could see giving him a committee chairmanship - maybe Senate Administration.

  •  Damn...this is not good. We needed him to stay. (0+ / 0-)

    He'd have made a great punching bag even if he only finished out his term.

    Now some Republican will have 18 months to make everyone forget Republican corruption and hypocrisy in ID.

  •  something else that bothered me (0+ / 0-)

    I found this snippet in an ABC News.com:

    A longtime neighbor of Craig was also shocked. Ed Johnson, the openly gay assistant director of the American Humanists Association, said that Craig stays on a boat next to Johnson's marina.

    "I've known Larry socially for about 10 years, maybe, it's been awhile. It's hard for me to imagine [the rumors]," said Johnson. "I work for a very progressive organization and I'm a very liberal gay man. I wouldn't hesitate to out him if I've ever heard anything. It's just hard for me to imagine."

    I don't fault Ed Johnson for knowing Sen. Craig (we don't get to control who our neighbors are, and it's common inside-the-beltway for people from different political backgrounds to intermingle). Instead, I'm bothered by the fact that Craig seemed to be socially acquainted with gay people even as he was voting for rabidly anti-gay legislation in the Senate. That disgusts me, and it reinforces the idea that the GOP backs antigay legislation as a cynical ploy to win the electoral support of the  Christian Right rather than out of serious concern for the issue.

    •  Friends in Pocotello (1+ / 0-)
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      jfdunphy

      have told me for a long time that Craig was gay. They heard it the their gay friends, I never doubted their sincerity, but to be honest I thought it was local gossip.

      It seems that he has been walking a fine line for a very long time. The fact that Johnson said he wouldn't hesitate to out him tells me why he had no idea.

      "A smallish man Afghnistan, a watchdog in a nervous land and in the tents new rifles, hey, short memory." Midnight Oil 1983

      by high uintas on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:48:52 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  ya think? (0+ / 0-)

      it reinforces the idea that the GOP backs antigay legislation as a cynical ploy to win the electoral support of the  Christian Right rather than out of serious concern for the issue.

      The vice president is the single greatest threat to American and international security in the world today...Scott Ritter.

      by lisastar on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 11:04:33 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Please don't call them the Christian Right (3+ / 0-)
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      pine, Mad Mom, MyBrainWorks

      Please. Just stop. They're Christian fundamentalists, and they're not right.

      I made it a personal goal several years ago to take the words left and right out of my political vocabulary, since "right" is synonymous with correct. This is an important framing point.

      Coming this fall: DemocracySpace, a nonpartisan blog for community activists and public officials.

      by Red State Rebel on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 11:13:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  It's impossible to be in politics and not know (2+ / 0-)
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      pine, jfdunphy

      gay people. Politicians meet thousands of people, but most Republicans don't have the ability to empathize with anybody but their closest friends and relatives.

      There are zillions of people who were anti-gay until a close friend or relative came out; then they realize that gay people are not monsters. Democrats have the advantage in that they can empathize with mere acquaintances, strangers or people in the abstract.

  •  Live diary from Boise (3+ / 0-)
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    mcjoan, high uintas, MyBrainWorks

    I live a mile from where Craig made his announcement.

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Coming this fall: DemocracySpace, a nonpartisan blog for community activists and public officials.

    by Red State Rebel on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:28:58 AM PDT

  •  Log Cabin Republicans approve Craig Resignation. (1+ / 0-)
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    jfdunphy

    (Washington, DC)—Log Cabin President Patrick Sammon made the following statement about the resignation of Senator Larry Craig (R-ID):

    "Senator Craig made the right decision in resigning from the U.S. Senate.  He lost his credibility to serve the people of Idaho and his actions damaged the credibility of the Republican Party.   Senator Craig had no other choice but to resign—for the good of his State, the good of his Party, and the good of his family.  

    "His actions in Minnesota and the way he handled this situation showed terrible judgment.  Senator Craig obviously failed to live up to the principles he espoused as a lawmaker.  His explanation for pleading guilty was absurd and his denial was not believable.  Senator Craig had hoped a guilty plea would sweep this matter under the rug, but it clearly backfired on him.  Hopefully his resignation signals his willingness to take responsibility for his illegal actions and terrible judgment."  

    Thier website is here

  •  I'm disapointed that Craig resigned (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, MyBrainWorks

    The message of his resignation is that the Republicans will tolerate sexual transgressions that are heterosexual in nature and force the resignation of any senator whose transgression is homosexual in nature. They should force Vitter's resgination, too. His sex for money crime is worse than Craig's solicitation for free sex.

  •  First, the poetic justice (3+ / 0-)

    is that Sen. Craig was busted by homophobic laws that he had publicly supported. His crime was to pass laws making sex a crime, and he is now being punished for that crime, not for trying to pick up a date in a toilet stall. His own policies forced him into the bathroom for sex.

    But, and more importantly, some points made by Save Our Wild Salmon:

    -- Senator Craig's fading political fortunes could mean good
    things for Northwest salmon recovery.
    -- For more than a decade, Senator Craig has led a campaign to
    undermine salmon restoration, to silence the scientists, and
    eliminate our fishing culture and communities.
    -- We need Senators Murray and Cantwell to step up and advocate
    for our endangered salmon and steelhead populations, and they
    should start today by removing the rider Senator Craig recently
    attached to the Senate Interior Appropriations bill that
    pressures agencies to implement a salmon plan on the Snake River
    that has already been invalidated in federal court. Its
    wasteful, harmful, and wrong.
    -- Our endangered salmon and struggling fishing communities
    depend on the leadership of Senators Murray and Cantwell.

    CONTACT INFORMATION:

    1. SENATOR MURRAY's Seattle Office: 206-553-5545

    http://murray.senate.gov/...

    1. SENATOR CANTWELL's Seattle Office: 206-220-6400

    http://cantwell.senate.gov/...

    1. LETTERS TO THE SEATTLE PI: Send letters to the editor at the PI with your name, address, and phone number, to: editpage@seattlepi.com

    The word limit is 150 words.

    Among hundreds of birds, reptiles, amphibians and mammals, Washington's endangered orca community, now with only 87 members in three pods, depend on bountiful wild salmon runs to survive. Craig was an enemy of nature in more ways than one, and now that he has hoisted himself on his own petard it's time to restore respect for both human nature and the natural world.

    Let's have fewer kids, and share them.

    by howardfromUSA on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:38:03 AM PDT

  •  All of you were right about Craig. I was wrong. (2+ / 0-)
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    high uintas, MyBrainWorks

    I was wrong.

    And all of you were right.

    I thought he would stick it out.  However the evidence, of past indiscretions, was overwhelming.

    Mostly, his party needed him to leave.

  •  Opinion from an Idaho blogger... (3+ / 0-)
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    mcjoan, osterizer, Red State Rebel

    Here's a few thoughts I posted on our Idaho blog 43SB.com a few moments ago:

    • Governot Butch Otter, Stuperintendent of Public Education Tom Luna, Idaho Rethuglican Party chairman Kirk Sullivan and the stupidest man on the planet able to breathe on his own without mechanical aid, Congressman Bill "Brainfade" Sali, were standing behind Craig and were acknowledged during his speech.

    That these guys showed up to (allegedly) support Craig was better orchestrated than the Boston Pops. I do not believe, for one minute, that these four mental giants came up with this on their own. I'd guess this was planned by Rethugs a lot higher up on the food chain -- say, the RNC and those laughable louts in the White House.

    Somebody wanted people, besides Craig's family and staff, up there to try to keep the Republican Party from looking like the completely heartless goons that they are. The Republican Party tied Larry Craig to the tracks and ran him over with the biggest locomotive they could find, then had Otter, Luna, Sullivan and Sali show up for the cameras afterward to pat his shiny head and say "there, there" in a sympathetic sort of way.

    • A joke I'm sure you'll hear in the near future: Otter, Luna, Sullivan and Sali stood firmly behind Sen. Larry Craig, but refuse to allow Craig to stand firmly behind them. *BA-da-BUMP!*

    Click here for the rest. I wish it hadn't taken so many decades to get rid of Larry Craig, but it warms the cockles of my cockles that it was due to the Republican Party's homophobia and Craig's own idiocy that it finally happened.

    ###

    Tilting at windmills, with the proper armor and enough firepower, can be a productive effort. http://www.43rdstateblues.com

    by Serephin on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:42:15 AM PDT

  •  Just the beginning (1+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell

    Wash. DC should be known as the District of Criminals.  Craig should have been forced to resign because of his policies..Just the beginning

  •  As a former (and hope to be future) Idahoan (1+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell

    "Behold! The sun is coming down the mountain!"

    Let us protect and defend the beautiful places that give meaning to the word "home".

  •  The Unpology of Larry Craig (4+ / 0-)

    Larry Craig's parting statement featured that classic Republican denial of culpability, the Unpology.

    Announcing his September 30th resignation, the Idaho GOP Senator artfully avoided accepting accountability for his men's room escapades. Instead, he offered the appearance of apology only for their aftermath:

    "I apologize for what I have caused. For any public official at this moment in time to be standing with Larry Craig is in itself a humbling experience. I have little control over what people choose to believe."

    Craig's evasion is just the latest example of the Republican art of the unpology. Facing recriminations for ethical failings, racist behavior, sexist statements or outright criminality, this new generation of Republican wrong-doers delivers the facade of apology by uttering obligatory words of remorse devoid of actual regret, contrition - or even an admission of guilt.

    For more details, see:
    "The Unpology of Larry Craig."

  •  Roster of Hypocrisy (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, lisastar

    With so many neocons crawling out from under rocks lately, it's becoming difficult to keep them sorted out.  I mean, diaper-fetishist David Vitter, men's room aficionado Larry Craig and short-eyed Mark Foley are the most recent hypocrites to shame the GOP, but let's not forget Spokane Mayor Jim West (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/223201_west06.html) and Glenn Murphy, former chairman of the Clark County Republican Party (http://www.news-tribune.net/breakingnews/local_story_219210228.html), among so many others.

    One way to raise funds for our '08 candidates might be to compile a deck of playing cards featuring famous GOP crooks, liars and hypocrites.  The only problem might be paring the list down to 52...

  •  I hope you all have the strength and power to (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, protectspice

    protect the environment.  I guess that the only the Republican hierarchy will ditch Bush is if he is found in the men's room with Karl Rove.  The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

    They can tolerate corruption and defend it, they applaud war and violence and killing, but what they view as deviant sex sends them all of a twitter like a bunch of old maids threatened by a mouse.

  •  Sounds like he's (1+ / 0-)
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    protectspice

    stalling!

    "More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way." - G.W.Bush July 4, 2007.

    by kitebro on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:58:30 AM PDT

  •  we need to pull Sen Craig's repro rts record (1+ / 0-)
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    MyBrainWorks

    and take a good look at his actions as a far right broker of judging others sexuality, and see what it has cost American women.  Now that would be a story of power and hypocracy...and the face of this Regime.

    This is nasty stuff.  These people hurt others with their power and their lies.  And they really believe they are "above it all".

    What crap.

  •  Isn't the real scandal... (1+ / 0-)
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    jfdunphy

    ...how many fellow Republicans in Congress have known about Craig all this time, and covered for him?

    Just like they knew about Foley but looked the other way?

    What did they know about Craig, and when did they know it?

    Carbon

    Republican National Convention 2008. A Toe Tappin' Good Time in Minneapolis' Xtra Wide Stalls!

  •  Liars burn in hell! (0+ / 0-)

    Bold faced liars and hypocrites will all have their day of reckoning.   Hades will have a long waiting list on that day with SRO with so many republicans waiting in line.

  •  Many Are Really Supportive of Craig's kind (0+ / 0-)

        After he goes away he will always say "it wasn't me".  During and before the 2006 elections people were not told these things, even though some looked for themselves.  Idaho will in all likelihood send another conservative to the Senate, so be prepared for that.  Many are really supportive of guys like this.

  •  NW environment may benefit (0+ / 0-)

    Larry Craig, Ted Stevens and Slade Gorton (remember him ?) were the three rulers of Northwest anti-environmental hell.

    Sadly, Larry Craig will probably be replaced by another environmentally toxic Republican, but maybe there's some small increase in the probability that meaningful legislation can be passed to keep NW salmon from going extinct.  There's lot's of other issues of course, logging of old growth, mining, etc... which need lots of attention too.

    Someone even more hostile to the environment than Craig may step in, but at least that person won't have Craig's seniority.

    Good riddance indeed.

    2 down, 1 to go.

  •  Imagine (1+ / 0-)
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    begreen

    Imagine if the Republican party had actually shown some compassion for Larry Craig's conflicts instead of so often saying they're compassionate.  Seems like another opportunity lost for them.  But then have they ever really been about compassion?  So far their actions haven't matched their words.

    Compassion doesn't help create conflicted closet-cases, marginilization does.  And that's what they've been so good at.  

    Just look to society to see they're losing.  Will they let their ship sink or change course?  I'm sure they'll do whatever is in their best interest regarding their future treatment of gays.  Their actions say they always have.  

    "The 'Gay Agenda' has indeed been revealed, and it bears a remarkable resemblance to the U.S. Constitution." ~Donna Minnis

    by Decided Voter on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 12:19:45 PM PDT

  •  Why didn't he just change parties (0+ / 0-)

    As so many others have said -- no democrat would fault him for being a homosexual. Plus, we could use the senate seat. :)

  •  Joe Lieberman is awfully quiet (0+ / 0-)

    and he has some oversight on rail, transit, and port security issues. Plus he's made himself visible on family values, castigating Hollywood, arguing for the V-chip, etc.

  •  I was proud to serve the people of Idaho.... (0+ / 0-)

    Republican people
    Corporate people
    Rich people
    Religious pro-life people
    Anti-gay people

  •  I wonder is anybody else agrees with me... (0+ / 0-)

    when Craig said, "I am Not gay, I never Have been gay", doesn't that imply that you can be gay for a little while?

    Maybe these people think so.

    Anne Heche may say so, but she's a hypocrite too.

    "You never really own anything you can't carry in both arms at a dead run" Robert A. Heinlein

    by Boise Lib on Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 03:18:09 PM PDT

  •  How About This (0+ / 0-)

    Now that the Republican party have shown us how righteous they are,why don't they start going after more of their predators.

    I'm speaking specifically about those two predators at Fox News Geraldo Rivera and Bill O'Reilly.

    Bette Middler once stated for the record that Rivera drugged and raped her and we all know about O'Reilly's transgressions.

    But of Course,Craig was an embarassment to them and I'm sure they are satisfied and will continue to engage in THEIR OWN shady activities.

  •  Gay Old Party (0+ / 0-)

    I can't wait until bush gets caught trying to suck cock and, of course, he won't have the balls to fess up either.

  •  CNN's Craig Quote (0+ / 0-)

    CNN is leading its Websitewith a provocative quote from Craig that I don't see anywhere else.  Did Craig say 'We'll fight this like hell"?

    CNN HEADLINE:  Craig:  I will resign and 'fight like hell'

    ...Since the reports surfaced, Craig has maintained his innocence and says he regrets his guilty plea. On Saturday, he said he intends to pursue legal action to have his guilty plea expunged.  "We'll fight this like hell," he said...

    •  Res Judicata (0+ / 0-)

      I saw this too.  What's to fight?  He tried to suck a cock (nothing wrong with that) in a public bathroom (maybe not so smart), then lied about it (totally cowardly); but, he plead to the charge.  That's it.  

  •  Republicans afraid of Foley Scandal Repeat? (0+ / 0-)

    Something strikes me as very fishy about the change in Senator Craig from his very stubborn denials and refusal to back down or step down a few days ago, and his sudden resignation.

    Remember he was implicated in sex scandals involving under age individuals in the 80s.  Could it be that the Republicans who so much want him out of the news before next year's election threatened him with criminal prosecution?  

    Democrats might want to investigate whether another Mark Foley-type enabling situation was going on with Craig.  After all, the Mark Foley scandal helped Democrats take back the house and Senate last year.

  •  GOP Duplicity: Ousting Craig but not Vitter (0+ / 0-)

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