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It looks for all the world like former Justice Department evildoer Hans Von Spakovsky will slip through and land his share of Wingnut Welfare: a paycheck from the Federal Election Commission.

Von Spakovsky's nomination has been red-flagged for months, since revelations regarding his role in voter suppression schemes, approval of racially discriminatory redistricting schemes, and other transgressions came to light. Von Spakovsky's reward for permanently perverting the electoral system on behalf of the Bush "administration?" A cushy seat with the nation's elections watchdogs. Brilliantly played!

So, you already know where this is going, right? Senate Democrats aren't going to stop his nomination.

Why not?

Well, one suggestion has been that there's some kind of a dealbetween Democrats and Republicans -- specifically to accept Von Spakovsky in exchange for a preferred Democratic nominee -- but I believe the reason is much more mundane than that.

In today's Senate Rules committee session, which met to consider the nominations, Republicans were pulling out all the procedural stops to get this done:

During the Rule Committee’s executive meeting Wednesday, Feinstein originally said she wanted to vote on each nominee separately, as opposed to considering all four nominees together in one vote, as the committee has done in the past. Republicans on the panel objected, arguing that the move breaks all known committee precedent on moving FEC nominations.

"The precedent is very clear," said Sen. Bob Bennett (Utah), the ranking Republican on the panel. "Nominations to the FEC have always been reported en bloc and in pairs."

But Feinstein said committee rules governing FEC nominations allow only for passing nominations that have unanimous consent, which her objection would prevent. After about a half-hour of negotiation, Feinstein and Bennett agreed to pass all of the nominations without recommendation.

See that? Republicans sought to prevent a separate vote on Von Spakovsky, instead saying that all four pending nominations to the FEC had to be voted on together. FEC nominations are made in equal numbers at the suggestions of both parties. In this case, two Democrats and two Republicans. Feinstein wanted to consider each nominee separately, but Republicans said it was all or none.

Bottom line: the nominations now go to the floor for a full Senate vote. Von Spakovsky has passed the first hurdle.

Now, couldn't Feinstein have forced the issue? Couldn't she have held a vote on whether or not they should consider the nominees together or separately? Sure. But the Rules committee is divided 10-9 in favor of Democrats. And guess what?

You'll never guess!

This morning's result: faced with the defection of a Democrat on the committee, later revealed to be Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE), Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) chose to agree to send all four nominees, two Democrats and two Republicans, to the floor without recommendation.

Ah, Ben! Ben, Ben, Ben. What are we going to do with you?

So what's next? The floor vote. And how will that be handled?

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who was on hand to back up Bennett’s assertions about Senate precedent, said he would not tolerate any attempt to separate von Spakovsky’s nomination from the three other FEC nominations on the Senate floor.

"None of these nominees will move across the Senate unless they move together," he said. "The view has always been that the Democrats pick the Democrat candidates and Republicans pick the Republicans."

Yes, Republicans will presumably filibuster the nominations -- all of the nominations -- if the Senate tries to take an UpperdownvoteTM on Von Spakovsky.

And why will that work?

Because the failure to roll over for the Republicans will leave us with four vacancies on the FEC heading into a presidential election year. And Democrats don't want to be "responsible" for that. Heavens, no! (Even though the biggest knock going against the FEC is that they don't do anything, anyway.)

So, the reasoning goes, it's better to put Von Spakovsky in cold storage at the FEC and let him live on Wingnut Welfare (at taxpayer expense, as all the best welfare is). After all, it's not like he's still at the Justice Department, where he could do real damage. It's just the FEC. During a presidential election year. Which was important enough five seconds ago, as I recall, to justify this whole thing, but appears to have lost its importance toward the end of this paragraph.

What was I saying, again?

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:25 PM PDT.

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  •  i think you were saying IMPEACH (9+ / 0-)

    start with cheney

    almost everybody hates cheney

    333 !

    " what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil " -- Alan Greenspan

    by carlos oaxaca on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:20:36 PM PDT

    •  Hey don't be throwing one half of the sign of the (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      ER Doc, ca democrat

      beast around here buddy.  Next thing you know BillO's sockpuppets will show up and start damning us and praying for our souls and weird shit like that.

      "An entire credulous nation believed in Santa Claus, but Santa Claus was really the gasman." Gunter Grass

      by rrheard on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:30:01 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  cheney is half of hells team (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        chuckvw, illyia, ca democrat

        impeach cheney/bush '007

        it is the best way to get the world to like us.

        maybe, it is the only way.

        why anyone would vote for another 200 billion for bush to bomb muslims, i do not know. (even with strings).

        " what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil " -- Alan Greenspan

        by carlos oaxaca on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:36:30 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Oh I'm with you brother or sister but ain't (3+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          chuckvw, Simplify, madgranny

          gonna happen.  The netroots and all its real world activists got conned plain and simple.  The only thing left for the DLC/DINO/Centrist/Neocons to do is completely break our spirit and our voice and it will be back to business as usually . . . bombing brown people without having to listen to the din of discontent via fax, e-mail, and phone because we'll all be too busy calling immigration attorneys trying to get the hell off of this sinking ship.  And then they'll call us the rats.

          "An entire credulous nation believed in Santa Claus, but Santa Claus was really the gasman." Gunter Grass

          by rrheard on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:40:44 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  did you know the North Pole has no Ice (2+ / 0-)
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            rrheard, madgranny

            and Santa's workshop has fallen to the bottom of the Arctic Ocean? (He escaped with the flying reindeer and a few elves).

            There will not be enough toys for Christmas. Dont believe the recall stories. They are cover.

            There are plans to give the kids who make toys in China Pointy Ear Plastic Surgery so they look like elves.

            http://www.globalmarshallplan.org/...

            " what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil " -- Alan Greenspan

            by carlos oaxaca on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:10:11 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  because there are no assets left, (0+ / 0-)

              and because no one will go shopping in honor of fake gods, and fakir fat men, and faker semi-religious symbols, meaning that the economic fiasco that is hitting us as badly as Afghanistan hit the USSR (and drove it into self-emoliation) will be repeated here.

              In the United States, doing good has come to be, like patriotism, a favorite device of persons with something to sell. - Mencken

              by agnostic on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 03:26:08 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

    •  Start with Pelosi (1+ / 0-)
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      Simplify

      "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." - George W Bush

      by jfern on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:45:25 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Why am I not surprised? (8+ / 0-)

    This has become par for the course.

    "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." ~ Albert Einstein

    by BlueInARedState on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:21:10 PM PDT

  •  Put the Bu$h Dogs to sleep! (4+ / 0-)

    Electorally, of course...

  •  Your second head-exploding post today (11+ / 0-)

    At least for me.

    Woo.

    WTF??

    Is it just Stockholm syndrome among our Democrats? Is that really it? They really seem to think that if they do nice things for Republicans, Republicans won't shaft them.

    Guess what? Ready the lube.

    "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

    by jbeach on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:24:29 PM PDT

  •  Arrgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (19+ / 0-)

    I can't take any more god damned capitulation. How many times can these cowards capitulate in one day?

    "It's the planet, stupid."

    by FishOutofWater on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:25:13 PM PDT

    •  Present count, at least 3, but I'm betting that (5+ / 0-)

      if we looked closely there are dozens.

      "An entire credulous nation believed in Santa Claus, but Santa Claus was really the gasman." Gunter Grass

      by rrheard on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:28:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I especially can't take this one (14+ / 0-)
      This is literally the Republicans' last hope for taking back the presidency. They have a horrible field and no positions anyone much supports. But if they are in a position to turn a blind eye to manipulation of the system and dirty tricks, purges and voter suppression, while enforcing draconian rules and hurdles to be allowed to vote, well, they might pull it off. This is horrifying, this is disgusting and I am on hold with Sherrod Brown's office right now to beg him to stand up and speak out for a change. As an elections activist, I'm sick about this.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:32:37 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Absolutely. (3+ / 0-)

        I commented below and elsewhere, no wonder the Repubs aren't putting any effort into wooing independents back, or trying to win minorities to their side.

        If they can fix it on election day, why bother to put your campaign dollars into an African American sponsored debate?  Just spend it on some wild Republican style partying.

        Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught. ~Honoré de Balzac

        by hopesprings on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:59:46 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I wouldn't go that far (0+ / 0-)
          They're not wooing independents because they are devoting all their efforts to keeping their fracturing base hanging together. They aren't trying to win minorities because they just flat out can't. They badly miscalculated on the immigration issue and lost the Hispanics while trying to cater to the bigots but not alientate big business, which turned out to be impossible. They re in a mess. I don't believe there's a sinister well-oiled plot guaranteed to succeed. I think trying to game the system is literally their last hope but it is a thin one. That is small consolation to people and communities whose votes are compromised.

          We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

          by anastasia p on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:46:31 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  I think they get up in the morrning (0+ / 0-)

      Look in the mirror, and ask

      "Have you capitulated today?"

      And if they haven't the run down to the floor of their respective chambers and try to find something to bend over backwards to accommodate.

      Fuck the fucking fuckers.

      Olaf(upon what were once knees) does almost ceaselessly repeat "there is some shit I will not eat"

      by slippytoad on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 04:11:37 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  what you were say is Van Spazorovsky (11+ / 0-)

    is a lying cheating sumbitch.  Just the kind of guy noone should be surprised the GOP wants to put in a position of influence when it comes to elections.

    "An entire credulous nation believed in Santa Claus, but Santa Claus was really the gasman." Gunter Grass

    by rrheard on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:25:14 PM PDT

  •  As soon as I saw Feinstein's name (21+ / 0-)

    I knew it was a lost cause. Is there a lazier person in the Senate? I remember, like it was yesterday, her role in the Alito hearings and how, after two and half months of potential prep time, she didn't get around to reading the Rybar decision until her lunch break the day she questioned him about it.

    •  Lazy, stupid, clueless, cowardly, apathetic, (8+ / 0-)

      unconcerned, complicit, cynical, corrupt--"Dems" like DiFi are worse than useless and further confirmation that the rot in our political system goes WAY beyond just the GOP.

      She and her fellow capitulators literally DO NOT CARE. You can see it in their faces, body language and tone of voice. They are each personally doing quite well and don't want to risk their individual power and wealth for something as boring and unnecessary as actually standing up to the worst administration in US history. To call them cowards is to miss the point. This is FAR worse. They simply could care less. So long as they can protect their power and wealth, the rest of the world can go to hell and it's ok with them. These are basically the same people whose weakness, apathy and selfishness encouraged and allowed the Repubs to take over in '94, and Bush to steal the election in '00 and '04.

      Like all "revolutions", this one will have to happen in stages. The first was where we united with them in a marriage of convenience to take back congress from the Repubs, which I believe will be replicated in '08 and also include the presidency. But the real "revolution" will be when we take over the party from them. They might not be quite as bad as the Repubs, but they're not that much of an improvement, either. Clearly, we need to get rid of as many of them as possible if we want the party to be what it needs to be.

    •  I emailed her to air my displeasure (2+ / 0-)
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      cadejo4, madgranny

      Not that she gives a rats-ass about her constituents, but I at least made the gesture.

  •  Today is turning me (13+ / 0-)

    into a very angry person. All of my reps voted with the Pubs. Do we need to move Congress out of the Beltway so they can see us large as life for a change? Because they behave like quislings instead of leaders. And act as though we are strident and extreme in our demands.

    And then there's Nancy Pelosi, restating her thoughts, impeachment still off the table.

  •  It's only 2008. (8+ / 0-)

    You know, that magic time that we've all been told to STFU and wait for. So why bother having people with integrity in charge of something as trivial as elections?

    To paraphrase Caligula, o, if only all of Washington had but a single neck.

    "So long as men die, Liberty will never perish." -- Charlie Chaplin, The Great Dictator

    by khereva on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:27:03 PM PDT

  •  Another day... (8+ / 0-)

    ...another disappointment. I swear, sometimes I wonder why I even bother working to elect these people.

    "[A]n ass-kissing little chickenshit. I hate people like that." - Admiral Fallon on General Petraeus

    by MBNYC on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:27:48 PM PDT

  •  They could take away Nelson's committee assignmen (7+ / 0-)
    - sounds like a good idea to me.

    The Repubs know how to ensure party unanimity

    Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. - Sam J. Ervin, Jr.

    by tiponeill on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:29:04 PM PDT

  •  Dems are playing us. (14+ / 0-)

    This and the Iran thing are just the latest outrages.

    You can't even call it capitulation, because that would mean they were being forced.

    They WANT to fuck us.  

    Why couldn't Feinstein simply bottle this shit up in committee?  Because she WANTS it to go forward.

    What bullshit.

    Revise FISA in the dead of night? This is Worse than Watergate. I used to say "IMPEACH! Now" but now I realize the problem is bigger than that.

    by maxschell on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:29:11 PM PDT

    •  Well executed "long and short con" by seasoned (5+ / 0-)

      pros.  Are we really surprised we were had?  This is why it is difficult to combat the very palpable and largely accurate perception in the minds of many that the American political system is rigged--because as currently constituted, it is.

      I've often said I appreciate that they are all morally bankrupt conmen(women), with a few exceptions, but that I vote D because they are usually a little more egalitarian and progressive in spreading out the graft.  Getting harder and harder to say even that anymore as they are all starting to look like neocons to me.

      "An entire credulous nation believed in Santa Claus, but Santa Claus was really the gasman." Gunter Grass

      by rrheard on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:35:33 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Vote smarter (3+ / 0-)
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      suswa, hopesprings, BlueInARedState

      The DC crowd, be it Dem., GOP or media all play a game where they get taken care of and the rest of us can pay the bill and shut up.  The only way for us to win at this game is not to play.  

      In this case not playing means voting for candidates who support our values.  In 2004 I worked for Dean, but when Kerry won the nomination I dutifully gave, worked and voted for him.  I'm not going to be played for a chump again.  In return for my support Kerry had a responsibility to try to win, to contest the stolen election and to stand on our Democratic value.  When Kerry or Hillary or any of the others go back to DC and capitulate on everything in the name of bipartisanship it make a fool of me as a voter.  So I'm not going to vote for candidates who can't be counted on the vote for my values.  

      I am supporting Richardson for the nomination because he has the experience to do the job and he supports my values.  However, if the eventual nominee is not clear about Iraq and everything else I won't vote for him or her.

  •  Today has been sickening (13+ / 0-)

    and proof of how totally bogus the Democratic leaders have become.  Shouldn't the point of government be to support the people (tax payers/voters) rather than tearing the country apart?  I think I have to rescind my membership in the Democratic party. and to think that I only joined them after 2004 so that I could have my two cents in the primaries... I am literally heartsick over all this.

    When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it? - Eleanor Roosevelt

    by seefleur on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:29:41 PM PDT

    •  The only good part of the day was throwing (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      bottsimons

      4 Dems solicitation letters into the trash.  And I'll get to do the same with a few emailed requests that I was holding open.

      Sometimes I think the only way the "change from within" concept would work would be to start from within the Republican party.  Register, get progressive candidates the Dems won't support to register and run in primaries, and change from within - just from within a different party.  

      But then I realize that wouldn't work either.

      Then I start looking for something with alcohol in it.  

  •  Is anyone else banging their head against their (12+ / 0-)

    desk? Why exactly is it that even after we get a majority we can't get our team to play the game adroitly and their side as a minority is more effective at getting their way? I feel like their side is playing Chess while our side is still trying to master Chutes and Ladders. Ugh.

  •  How bad is von Spakovsky? (16+ / 0-)

    It's good when I can defer to my YearlyKos (well, I remember being there) co-panelist Dahlia Lithwick:

    Von Spakovsky currently sits on the FEC as a result of a recess appointment made by President Bush in January of 2006. Before that he served as counsel to the assistant attorney general in the Civil Rights Division at Justice. Von Spakovsky's Senate confirmation hearing last June was noteworthy for many oddities, not the least of which was a letter sent to the rules committee by six former career professionals in the voting rights section of the Justice Department; folks who had worked under both Republican and Democratic administrations for a period that spanned 36 years. The letter urged the committee to reject von Spakovsky on the grounds that while at DoJ, he was one of the architects of a transformation in the voting rights section from its "historic mission to enforce the nation's civil rights laws without regard to politics, to pursuing an agenda which placed the highest priority on the partisan political goals of the political appointees who supervised the Section." The authors named him as the "point person for undermining the Civil Rights Division's mandate to protect voting rights."

    Von Spakovsky's response to these charges at his confirmation hearings? "I was not the decision maker," he claimed. "I don't remember that complaint at all,'' he demurred. "It's privileged," he insisted. That's the kind of bobbing and weaving that likely cost Alberto Gonzales his job. That the same absurd testimony from von Spakovsky might be rewarded with a professional upgrade is unfathomable.

    And what was von Spakovsky trying to hide at his hearing? Why is the nation's largest civil rights coalition urging that his confirmation be rejected? Because this man was one of the generals in a years-long campaign to use what we now know to be bogus claims of runaway "vote fraud" in America to suppress minority votes. Von Spakovsky was one of the people who helped melt down and then reshape the Justice Department into an instrument aimed at diminishing voter participation for partisan ends.
    ...

    Von Spakovsky's lasting—and perhaps most symbolic—contribution to the state of the Justice Department today is highlighted by one other extracurricular: his efforts to undermine Minnesota U.S. Attorney Tom Heffelfinger, who recently departed Justice on his own steam. As Tom Hamburger reported in the Los Angeles Times this summer, Heffelfinger became concerned when Minnesota's secretary of state directed that tribal ID cards could not be used for voter identification by Native Americans living off reservations. Heffelfinger wanted the Justice Department to investigate whether that directive might prove discriminatory. According to Joseph Rich, former head of the Voting Section of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division (who had served as a career lawyer there for 37 years before stepping down in 2005), it was Hans von Spakovsky who effectively shut down the DoJ investigation before it began.

    Three months after expressing his concern over Native American vote suppression, Heffelfinger's name showed up on a 2004 list of U.S. attorneys to be fired and replaced. In her testimony before the Senate judiciary committee about the U.S. attorney firings, White House liaison Monica Goodling mumbled something about hearing Heffelfinger criticized for "spending an excessive amount of time" on Native American issues. Somehow, protecting the voting rights of minority voters had become antithetical to the mission of DoJ.

  •  Once again Feinstein has screwed us (7+ / 0-)

    If we had some people in power who represented the " leftist wing " of the party anywhere in DC, she would be removed from these seats of power that she has used to Bushs advantage rather than our own.

    What will it take to bring her down a few pegs ? At least when Jane Harman was made aware of how her votes and actions were threatening our support for her, and how they went against what the pubic wanted, she changed in many ways. This shows it can happen and should be looked into.

    -8.63 -7.28 We all have to be concerned about terrorism, but you will never end terrorism by terrorizing others.~Martin Luther King III

    by OneCrankyDom on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:37:08 PM PDT

  •  Clearly the country would (11+ / 0-)

    be far better of with no FEC than one with people like Von Spakovsky on it. It is a guarantee of voter fraud. That is what he does. He has no other skills.

    I thought for a while people's disgust with the Senate and Congress were sometimes over the top. No longer. The list of horrors in the last 10 days is just incredible. It feels like 2003 all over again. Have they learned nothing?

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:39:46 PM PDT

    •  Pretty much, in a word YES (1+ / 0-)
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      global citizen

      Of course it could have something to do with the fact that these folks are already sitting in elected office living on all the perks American wish they had and in no danger of being shipped over to another country to be shot at day after day ad nauseaum.

  •  where's our f-n nuclear option? (3+ / 0-)
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    chuckvw, cwaltz, IceJustIce

    Who represents actual voters in the congress anyway? They should all be slapped upside the head and sent to their rooms without supper. I for one want to camp outside Casey's door and not let him out to vote until he promises me that he'll actually represent the people who voted him in office (and that includes all the anti-Santorum voters that put him over the top). People should be leaving rotten peaches in the hallways of Congress (impeach this!)

    OK, I'll take a breath now.

    Americans. Bush is not our king.

    by musicsleuth on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:43:04 PM PDT

  •  hahahahhaha (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    chuckvw, wonmug

    I'm starting to enjoy this.

    It's all a lot more fun if you look at it as dark comedy.

    *pours himself another whiskey water...

  •  How much gray matter does it take.... (3+ / 0-)
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    chuckvw, hopesprings, David Moore

    to figure out that putting a partisan republican hack in charge of election integrity is not really going to help your chances of getting more democrats elected?

    Someone needs to slip some cayenne pepper or nodoz or maybe some meth into Harry's weak tea, and see if it wakes him up a bit.

    The meek shall inherit nothing. -F.Zappa

    by cometman on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:45:04 PM PDT

  •  Dude (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    chuckvw, hopesprings, MO Blue, gloryous1

    It's the Democrats, of course they'll roll over for Mr. 25%. There is no other way. The 110th Congress is more of a rubber stamp Congress then the 109th Congress.

    "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." - George W Bush

    by jfern on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:45:09 PM PDT

  •  Let's face it (3+ / 0-)
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    tiponeill, chuckvw, BlueInARedState

    Reid is a non-entity and McConnell is the real, effective majority leader--and everyone knows it. Why don't they make it official, hand over the gavel, and stop this silly charade?

    Like today's DoD supplemental hearing, the coming FISA reathorization hearings, Mukasey's confirmation hearing, and any other congressional actions, this is all pro forma bullshit. They're going to rubber stamp whatever Bush asks for because they're:

    A - Cowards
    B - Clueless
    C - Cynical
    D - Complicit
    E - Utterly unconcerned and laughing at us in private
    F - Some or all of the above

    And can SOMEONE please yank that silly hairball off of Nelson's pathetic head?

  •  I had a long rant here... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    BlueInARedState

    It was about 50 lines long.  Then I deleted it.  I'm just so goddamn frustrated with all the bullshit, I don't even have the energy to maintain my anger anymore.

    I need to take a break.

    "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." -- Thomas Jefferson [-4.25, -5.33]

    by GTPinNJ on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:48:35 PM PDT

  •  They are prepping (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    chuckvw, Rico

    to steal another election, mark my paranoid words.  

    Why else would they not care about pleasing black or hispanic voters?  Why else would they not care about distancing themselves from this disasterous war?

    The fix is in, at least in their planning phases.

    And our beloved Dems are doing NOTHING to stop it.

    Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught. ~Honoré de Balzac

    by hopesprings on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:57:27 PM PDT

  •  I need to take a break from politics (1+ / 0-)
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    hopesprings

    Let's face it, we lost in 2006. The Republican-lite branch of the Republican party won. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are a different kind of Republican, the kind that occasionally pretends to give a shit what we think.

    "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." - George W Bush

    by jfern on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 01:58:39 PM PDT

    •  To any candidate or sitting representative (1+ / 0-)
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      chachabowl

      reading this:

      We are sick of you.

      Sick, sick sick.  
      Today was a giant middle finger to all of us who spent our hard-earned (and not INHERITED!) money to get you into office.  

      Because I donated so much last year to get our vaunted Democratic House elected, I get emails and snail mail requests for donations daily, in the DOZENS, from you folks.

      Well, the buck stops here.  It literally STOPS.

      You aren't getting a dime from me this year.  

      From here on, only those who stood up against this President and this Congress will get a dime from me - or a vote.  

      I don't care if losing my vote makes you lose your seat to a Republican, because you might as well be one.

      How can you who voted with the Repubs today even look yourself in your mirrors?  You are as bad as they are, and you are traitors to the People who elected you and gave you our trust.

      Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught. ~Honoré de Balzac

      by hopesprings on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:12:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  'So long and thanks for the check' (1+ / 0-)
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        hopesprings

        Wonder now how many of them are going to be stopping by anymore to say 'hi'? Seems like today, we got the 'so long and thanks for the check' treatment.

        As long as they can look at their bank accounts and show totals exceeding Republicans, then they have really no cause to do anything otherwise. Today, like no other, shows that we have been scammed.

        The perfect plan, Is not the man Who tells you, You are wrong

        by dss on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:22:03 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  At least when the Dems were (2+ / 0-)
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    paradox, hopesprings

    in the minority we had the hope that things would improve when they took the majority. Now we are stripped of even that hope.

    Would I - a lifelong Democrat who has never voted otherwise since I was old enough (1968) - now consider a third party?  Yes.

    We've been sold down the river.

    www.bushwatch.net - Kicking against the pricks since '98!

    by chuckvw on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:00:14 PM PDT

    •  Our problem is... (2+ / 0-)
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      paradox, chuckvw

      When you voice your dismay at our Triangulating Dems as a reason to vote for another party, that is against the stated goals of this blog.

      I've learned from my posts - if you think the current Dems suck and maybe another party would be a step in the right direction, you are not welcome here.

      Sure, the Dems we voted in are voting for war with Iran, setting us up for voter fraud galore in 2008 - but look on the bright side, they are Dems!

      "The waging of war, by its nature, is total - but the waging of peace, by our own cowardice, is partial." -- Daniel Berrigan

      by Rico on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:28:17 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  There are few here (0+ / 0-)

        more qualified to speak as a Democrat and not just from a longevity perspective.  If I am voicing this dismay, then a lot of other people are thinking it.

        I think I would call my third party:

        The Democratic Party

        No one else seems to be using that name these days!

        www.bushwatch.net - Kicking against the pricks since '98!

        by chuckvw on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:37:00 PM PDT

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      •  Who dares to chase us away now? (1+ / 0-)
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        chuckvw

        Not welcome here?  Who dares to say that to you?  Or me?

        Troll much? an asshole asked me a month ago, when all I was doing was hurting and asking questions.

        Well?  Where are the motherfuckers who say I have no place here?  Where are you?

        Now is your chance.  I am in your repulsive Democratic party, trapped and bitching.

        Go ahead, tell me I'm not welcome after Reid and Pelosi and Nelson and Lieberman and Feinstein.  Tell me how I make a mistake when I know with my heart my people are traitors, they took my money and stabbed me with it.

        A democratic party blog?  It wouldn't be here.  Americans post here.

        •  Who chases us away? (1+ / 0-)
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          paradox

          This is from the FAQ (emphasis mine):

          This is a Democratic blog, a partisan blog. One that recognizes that Democrats run from left to right on the ideological spectrum, and yet we're all still in this fight together. We happily embrace centrists like NDN's Simon Rosenberg and Howard Dean, conservatives like Martin Frost and Brad Carson, and liberals like John Kerry and Barack Obama. Liberal? Yeah, we're around here and we're proud. But it's not a liberal blog. It's a Democratic blog with one goal in mind: electoral victory. And since we haven't gotten any of that from the current crew, we're one more thing: a reform blog. The battle for the party is not an ideological battle. It's one between establishment and anti-establishment factions. And as I've said a million times, the status quo is untenable

          Apparently the people who post here are stuck with this party right or wrong, and third parties are tatamount to betrayal.

          I'm expecting you were channeling something with the "Troll Much?" remark - if not, I suggest you look at my previous posts.

          "The waging of war, by its nature, is total - but the waging of peace, by our own cowardice, is partial." -- Daniel Berrigan

          by Rico on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:47:50 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  The End of the Democratic Party. (1+ / 0-)
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    hopesprings

    As far as I'm concerned this is the end of the Democratic Party.

    •  Oh, if only this crappy party would die off (1+ / 0-)
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      Mary2002
      Right now, they're a fishbone in the throat of progress: too weak to stand up to the Republicans but strong enough to stop a new and more effective party from getting off the ground.

      "I'll rant as well as thou."--Hamlet, Act V, Scene 1.

      by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:49:33 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  just shoot themselves (0+ / 0-)

    oh, never mind, they just did.

    fouls, excesses and immoderate behaviors will not be ignored at Over the line, Smokey!.

    by seesdifferent on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:13:51 PM PDT

  •  Capitulated Democrats (0+ / 0-)

    I recently wrote a dairy, 'Republicans don't need to talk to minority groups', that goes to the issue of subverted American democracy in favor of the Jim Crow right-wing.

    It does not surprise me at all that an anti democracy zealot would be passed onto the FEC. Jim Crow wills another one.

    The Democrats have done NOTHING about the Jim Crow subversion of America's democratic system, that cost them the 2000 election, so why should they do anything now?

  •  Can dkos alert the community (0+ / 0-)

    in advance of these important votes so that we can call our reps well before the vote instead of commiserating afterwards?  Really this kind of crap drives me crazy as with the Kyl-Lieberman ammendment.

  •  Dumbest. Democrats. Ever. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    The sleep of reason produces monsters.

    by Alumbrados on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:23:27 PM PDT

  •  Can't they do it in pairs? (0+ / 0-)

    Then at least they get the other two in at the FEC, and let VonS. and his dem counterpart fail.

    Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence.

    by zdefender on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:24:37 PM PDT

  •  Collective memory loss (2+ / 0-)
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    paradox, Rico

    Every time one of these "I can't believe the Democrats would let this happen" diaries come up I'm shcoked I have to remind everyone where this trend started?  Right here.  

    Surrendering to the big bad Republicans started as a blog phenomenon whereby the leading blogs lined up to explain to us poor peons that it was OK that the Democrats compromised and the Republicans, once again, got their way.

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    29 months later I am still pissed about this.  But do we really need another diary that conveniently forgets all the support those compromising Democrats got from this site?

    Oh, and by the way, whatever happened to that great Democrat that convinced the owner of this blog and his fellow Democrats that compromising on judicial nominees was OK?  What was his name? Oh yeah, Lieberman.  He must be one great Democrat to have convinced so many to compromise so much.  But I guess you won't see Democrats voting for his legislation or amendments anymore, right?

  •  Digby blew this one wide open last spring (1+ / 0-)
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    Mary2002

    She wrote the definitive story, IMO, on this joker and the GOP's voter fraud agenda.  It was posted last April 19 on Hulabaloo. Go check it out.  

  •  Conversations with my two year old. (2+ / 0-)
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    protectedmode, IceJustIce

    "Why are the Democrats going to confirm Von Spakovsky?"

    "Well, child...I guess they don't realize that he is evil."

    "BUT HIS NAME IS VON SPAKOVSKY!!!!"

    David Broder commented that this was "terrible news, for Democrats".

    by AdmiralNaismith on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:31:38 PM PDT

  •  Liberal wing of the GOP (1+ / 0-)
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    Mary2002

    Democratic congressional leadership.

  •  D.C. Democrats? They're dead to me (0+ / 0-)
    My time and money are going to other, more worthy causes than electing Democrats. This craptacular bunch has forfeited my respect.

    "I'll rant as well as thou."--Hamlet, Act V, Scene 1.

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 02:38:47 PM PDT

  •  George Washington warned us (2+ / 0-)
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    wonmug, bottsimons

    "Let me now take a more comprehensive view, & warn you
    in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party, generally.

    They serve to Organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force--to put in the place of the delegated will of the Nation, the will of a party; often a small but artful and enterprizing minority of the Community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public Administration the Mirror of the ill concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the Organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common councils and modefied by mutual interests. However combinations or Associations of the above description may now & then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the Power of the People, & to usurp for themselves the reins of Government; destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

    I have already intimated to you the danger of Parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on Geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, & warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party, generally.

    This Spirit, unfortunately, is inseperable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human Mind. It exists under different shapes in all Governments, more or less stifled, controuled, or repressed; but in those of the popular form it is seen in its greatest rankness and is truly their worst enemy.

    The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissention, which in different ages & countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders & miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security & repose in the absolute power of an Individual: and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty."

  •  I'm hoping Bernie Sanders will filibuster (0+ / 0-)

    It only takes one.  I think he's in good health.  One never knows.

  •  It is not that we are screwed. it is that (1+ / 0-)
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    bottsimons

    our party members ignored our wishes, our votes, our calls, our letters, our e-mails, our intertube discussions, and screwed us.
    No, that's not quite it either.

    they screwed our country, and eventually, (probably sooner than later) the whole damned globe.

    damn them.

    In the United States, doing good has come to be, like patriotism, a favorite device of persons with something to sell. - Mencken

    by agnostic on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 03:23:31 PM PDT

  •  Add this to your diary (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/... plus these headlines from early 2008(Senate Passes Bill 49-1:Only White Males Can Vote)and we have 4 years of the same/Rudy.
    If I was a Democratic candidate for the next election I would probably try to lose on purpose,too.

    Democracy is not dead;it merely smells funny

    by sully18 on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 03:34:16 PM PDT

  •  I'm waiting for the 9-11 candy bar (0+ / 0-)

    sold by catholic grammar school kids.

    What is essential is invisible.

    by bebimbob on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 03:36:45 PM PDT

  •  Bad Nelsons (0+ / 0-)

    "This morning's result: faced with the defection of a Democrat on the committee, later revealed to be Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE)..."

    The Nelson Twins strike again!

    Senators Ben and Bill Nelson, on tour, 1986.
     

    'If [voters] can be reached out to with respect...I think a lot of them will come back' to the Democratic Party -Jim Webb

    by assyrian64 on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 03:38:44 PM PDT

  •  Ka - BOOM! (0+ / 0-)

    Oh, those cluster-f*ck brain explosions...

    This has been a bad day.

    Ugh.

    If you dance with the devil, then you haven't got a clue; 'Cause you think you'll change the devil, but the devil changes you. - illyia

    by illyia on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 03:51:30 PM PDT

  •  Hans Von Spakovsky (0+ / 0-)

    Sounds like a villain from an Austin Powers movie.

    I suppose he wants one milibiglibigliion dollars to go away.

    Olaf(upon what were once knees) does almost ceaselessly repeat "there is some shit I will not eat"

    by slippytoad on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 03:56:32 PM PDT

  •  kagro-- (1+ / 0-)
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    standingup

    thanks much for the links and props.  

    much appreciated....

  •  Appeasement always (0+ / 0-)

    ushers in fascism.

  •  I'm so sick of the incompetent spineless a-holes (0+ / 0-)

    that we have in our Senate Democratic "leadership".  They all make me sick.

    Don't be so afraid of dying that you forget to live.

    by LionelEHutz on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 06:25:10 PM PDT

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